GOP Sen. Joni Ernst Denounces Trump’s Anti-Trans Edict

Politico reports:

President Donald Trump’s new plan to ban transgender people from the military is running into opposition from a key ally: Iowa GOP Sen. Joni Ernst. In a statement, a spokeswoman for the veteran said Ernst has served with people “from all different backgrounds” and that gender is not a vital indicator of someone’s military prowess.

“She believes what is most important is making sure servicemembers can meet the physical training standards, and the willingness to defend our freedoms and way of life,” the spokeswoman said. “Americans who are qualified and can meet the standards to serve in the military should be afforded that opportunity.”

  • Cuberly
    • Danieruw

      Love “Kleptanka”!

      These days, the biggest laughs I have all day are reading the comments here on JMG.

      • Cuberly

        Kleptanka was stolen from a fellow JMGer, it’s so perfect. It’s to the point where I don’t even user her real name any more.

  • Boy Elvis

    Wow, really? I thought this chick was practically a young Earth creationist.

    • clay

      She has a warm place in her heart (and stomach) for gender-queer hogs.

  • Skokieguy [Larry]

    I would say, damn, when pigs fly – but that would take balls.

    • Oscarlating Wildely
    • Ben in Oakland

      I saw what you did and. I know who you are.

      • Skokieguy [Larry]

        Thank goodness someone does!

    • Rex

      There’s a pig in the White House that should be neutered.

      • Cattleya1

        I hear Ms. Ernst has experience in castrating hogs…

  • Ranger One

    When in the world are they going to kick the junkyard dog to the curb?

    • agcons

      Keith Olbermann suggests that, like Real Watergate, the players in Stupid Watergate will take action only when it becomes obvious that they’ll get pounded in an election.

  • The_Wretched

    Interesting, her 2cents are following on Orrin and McCain. They must have an internal memo saying they’ll push back against the WH tweeting policy changes sans input. Normally, none of them would be standing up for trans*people.

    • Bluto

      I think you nailed it. They don’t give a shit about trans folks, they’re pissed cuz they didn’t get a chance to screw ’em over 1st.

      • Gustav2

        And make it sound “patriotic.”

    • kareemachan

      Throwing a bone after the fuckmess of healthcare votes.

    • FuzzyOtter

      Normally I would say this is the normal double talk from McCain, but Orrin and now this one? Wouldn’t it be interesting/ironic if this is the issue that causes a break in the republican ranks?

  • JWC

    Ddonny Donny Donny can we maybe expect a 180 tweet tomorrow?? HUH

    • clay

      He’s going for 180 tweets tomorrow.

  • BearEyes

    did nazi that coming

  • bkmn
  • thom

    Chris Geidner asks…

    “Has *any* senator issued a statement in support of Trump’s tweets on transgender military service?”

    • Cuberly

      So far from what I’m seeing it’s been a resounding nyet, against the policy change.

    • Gustav2

      The only Congressman to make a semi-positive statement saying as CiC Trump can do this and they have been having hearings on the expensive medical costs is Bradley Byrne (R-AL)

  • Lazycrockett

    Wasn’t she the one that talked bout castrating hogs?

    • Cuberly

      Yep, and the bread bags on her feet.

      • UrsusArctos

        Shame one of them wasn’t on her head, despite standing up this time.

  • coram nobis

    Well, that’s unexpected.

    • Gustav2

      Well, she has helped a few pigs with part of the surgery.

  • Lazycrockett

    Oh and we are getting a on air press conference. Drumpf is pulling out all the whistles and bells today.

    • zhera

      I had a long nap and just woke up to this mess, so I haven’t been part of the discussions up until now. Do we think this is Donnie’s version of Bush jr. anti-gay policy? Is it just to gather the loony religious, or is Donnie really anti trans? I don’t have to ask about Pence, or Bannon, they’re obvious.

      • clay

        Donny’s really gearing up for a(nother) ground war.

        • zhera

          I just cannot wrap my mind around Donnie whining about the medical cost of having trans people in the military, when he just last week launched one of those ships (what are they called again?), and now the US has 12 of those. 12!!!

      • Gustav2

        Summary: Teavangelicals love them some Sessions, he threw them a bone to take the heat off.

      • peacfulseas inWA

        One bitch had to have who’s the study they based this decision dragged out of her….. FRC!

      • -M-

        I wonder who was the last person he talked to.

      • UrsusArctos

        45* doesn’t care one way or the other. Hell he worked with plenty of “the gays” on pageants. Bannon/Miller suggested he could appease the Fundies and distract from Pootie with doing this.

  • Cackalaquiano

    Damn. Didn’t see that coming.

  • denbear00

    So he had a nice buzz from yesterday’s Ohio rally and that fun jamboree. He just wanted a little bit more. Just a night cap of sorts. He thought, I’ll bash trannies. Everyone hates trannies.

  • Lakeviewbob

    I don’t give a rat’s ass what she thinks. She is still a repulsive republican.

  • craigbear

    Uh, didn’t see this coming.

  • Ben in Oakland

    Jesus. If this hog castrator is against it, who can be for it?

  • SFBruce

    It’s gratifying to see several conservatives come out pretty strongly against this.

    I like this even more:

    When my Black Hawk helicopter was shot down, I didn't care about the gender identity of the Soldiers who were risking their lives to save me— Tammy Duckworth (@SenDuckworth) July 26, 2017

  • Sam_Handwich

    “She believes taxpayers shouldn’t cover the costs associated with a gender reassignment surgery,” Ernst’s spokeswoman said.

  • TexasBoy

    At this point, I’d welcome a military coup that immediately institutes new presidential elections.

    • Treant

      It’s unfortunate that military coups rarely result in increasing democracy or freedom for the ruled people. But at this point, something needs to give.

      • clay

        Your data might be out of date. Since the 1970s, military coups in Latin America are MORE likely to lead to free, fair, open elections MORE quickly than are civilian coups. But, of course, having free, fair, open elections without any coups, at all, would (have) be(en) best. Generally, nationalized military officers (as opposed to regional militia officers or to civilians) are primarily loyal to the nation, as a whole, rather than one district, extended family, or ethnic group.

        • Treant

          Africa.

          And on average, we’re a geographically large, low population density country with an incredibly diverse populace and a military that’s dominated by the most conservative elements.

          • clay

            I’m not sure African nations are good corollaries with the US– yes, they are highly diverse and often dispersed, but they are also likely to have only one large city, and highly centralized one-party governments. But, yeah, Africa supports your theory better than Latin America.

        • David Gervais

          To both clay and Treant:
          You might be interested in this book:
          Why Civil Resistance Works – Chenoweth and Stephan ISBN 978-0-231-52748-4

          Chapter 8 -After the Campaign: The Consequences of Nonviolent and Violent Resistance
          “In cases where violent insurgents have succeeded at coming to power, … Democracy is less likely to develop than in similar cases where nonviolent resistance succeeded.”

          I realize that this is not exactly Treant’s point, I think the book as a whole is a good study of people campaigning for social and political reform.

          • clay

            Civilian coups are seldom “civil resistance”, however.

          • David Gervais

            This started with TexasBoy saying: “At this point, I’d welcome a military coup that immediately institutes new presidential elections.”.

            Military coups are usually violent. The main point of the book is that violent change is usually less successful than nonviolent change.

    • Frostbite

      would be nice, will never happen.

      • clay

        US Military is intentionally focused outside of the US.

  • Cackalaquiano

    You know, he’s going to walk this edict back, send his spokespeople out to insist he never meant, never said, etc etc. and it’s gonna dominate the news for a week. It’s more clear to me now this was an intentional distraction.

    • Treant

      I’m thinking direct Russian ties have been discovered. Little Russian sperm were found yelling “Comrade!” in Jared’s ass.

      • swimboy

        Stop giving Another_Steve more “alone time” material.

        • Todd20036

          You have a dirty mind.
          I like you.

    • Cackalaquiano

      I should clarify that I’m not making light of this. It’s even more insidious. He’s throwing a marginalized group under the bus as red meat to the deplorables to whip up controversy and social discord as a distraction. The man is willing to start intentionally tearing our society apart for quick political gain. This is chilling for all Americans.

      • canoebum

        He’s been that way, doing exactly that, since the 1970s.

  • Cuberly
    • Scout

      Insert clapping gif here!!

    • Stogiebear

      You mean THAT’S what the T stands for?!?!?

      • Cuberly

        “Thems”?

        • prixator

          Tits.

    • Snarkaholic

      But he IS the most pro-LGBTQ* one in history!

      *(Chump’s definition of LGBTQ: Liars, Grifters, Bigots, Traitors, and Quislings.)

  • Turtle73

    Joni Ernst stood up for the United States of America?????

    You’ve gotta be joking me.

    • Treant

      Even a useless Congresscritter is right twice a day.

      Or something like that.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      She’s helped many pigs transition.

    • jerry

      Note to Joni: While you’re still in DC, there’s a group of pigs that need castrating…they’re at 1600 PA Avenue.

  • The conservative GOPers are gonna equivocate on this, but the important detail is this: They are increasingly willing to just flat out contradict and refute Donald. Even on issues where one would expect them to embrace what he’s impulsively tweeted as his new policies.

    This doesn’t normally happen and hadn’t until recently.

  • IAMBOWLINGGREEN
  • Sam_Handwich
    • GayOldLady

      There’s a message in this timing!

      • Gustav2

        Did Donnie know?

        • GayOldLady

          Likely not. This is probably a Scary Moochie Production.

          • jerry

            The racist timing…probably Bannon.

          • Gustav2

            That’s were my thoughts went, but this week he is supposed to be on the outs…lol

          • jerry

            An article on Daily Kos blamed Trump’s Youngstown speech on Steve Miller…and he is just as bad as Bannon on the Nazi front.

          • UrsusArctos

            Worse. Miller was Session’s henchman, on Session’s staff. I’d bet they carpooled to Klan rallies.

          • Danieruw

            Please. Carpools are for hippies! They each drove individual gas guzzlin’ trucks. With big-ass confed flags.

          • UrsusArctos

            Rollin’ coal!

          • GayOldLady

            Directed by Bannon, Produced by Scary Moochie.

          • Paul

            or Pence

        • Rick Jackson

          Seriously? Even when Donnie thinks he knows something, he is almost always wrong. Not only did he not know, because it does not benefit him, he does not care.

    • Derrick Johns

      My. Boykin gets more handsome as he gets older. Am I going off track of the discussion? Sorry.

      • Miji

        No worries, you are correct. If I could be a little shallow for a moment, at least on CNN he has a jacket. When I read his twitter feed, I can’t help but be distracted by his chest and perky nips showing through his shirt.

        • Derrick Johns

          OK. I’ll feel relieved. Lol Thanks

    • Seriously, what the fuck is up with the movie camera emoji?

      • Sam_Handwich

        the link is a video clip from his campaign rally last night

    • IAMBOWLINGGREEN

      He worships himself, money and pussy.

      • PeterC

        An he is “god” ???

      • clay

        That scene from Imamura’s (1983) The Ballad of Narayama where the single village men worship the lady’s pussy . . .

      • Todd20036

        I do like cute kitty cat videos, I must admit.

    • GayOldLady

      Well, he’s put himself between a rock and hard place. Sessions is adored by the Evangelicals and Trump is beating Sessions into the ground everyday in Twitter and in front of the Press. He’s doing this to right his Jesus Ship and the next in the pecking order will likely be the remaining LGB. He likely has the RFRA ready to sign

      • Cuberly

        I think you hit the nail on the head. I do remember reading that evangelical “leaders” were seen meeting with him recently. Along with some far right politicos. If I recall where I read it I’ll post a link.

        But yeah, RFRA is in the wings.

    • coram nobis

      Toys in the White House attic.

    • boatboy_srq

      He misspelled “Mammon.”

      • He misspelled “Trump.”

    • zhera

      Aaah, god, yes. He’s not even trying to be subtle about his begging for evangelical support.

    • Tomcat

      Donald says suckle from the tit of my kindness you peasants.
      Bow down for I am the anti-christ.

    • Max_1

      Next month Trump will Tweet: I AM YOUR GOD

    • Todd20036

      And God is Trump

    • Danieruw

      Thank “govt” he shouted that at us. Otherwise I may have missed it.

  • John Calendo

    Strange bedfellows, indeed. You never know who your friends are until someone switches on the lights.

    • Gustav2

      Not necessarily our friends, Congresscritters don’t like it when even this POTUS takes away their power.

  • Gerry Fisher

    I’m a bit confused by this quick and almost universal push back from elected Republicans. I read in an article today that they hope to avoid this issue. Maybe Trump bumbling into it has pissed them off, gone against their general strategy?

    • The_Wretched

      That could be the reasoning. The ‘old guard’ wants to pass legislation and that’s harder to do when Donny is off-message and riling people up.

    • Gustav2

      To repeat myself:

      If you take military personnel issues out of the hands of Congress, you are going to get a lot of push back from them.

      • Oscarlating Wildely

        And rightly so, would I add. Yes, he’s commander in chief– but the constituents of Congress are the one’s who pay the price for his foolishness.

    • Cuberly

      Venturing a guess I think, at least part of the problem, is how he did it. Via twitter.

    • BobSF_94117

      It almost seems coordinated…

    • clay

      Were the Veterans Affairs Committees meeting today?

  • Bernie Keefe

    Of all people!

  • JWC

    Hey GOP yes that IS an elephant in the room

  • boatboy_srq

    Well, so much for her reelection…

    • No, this is Republicans feeling free to attack Donald, which is kind of important especially from Red states like Iowa. It means they’re no longer afraid of him or his supporters.

      • boatboy_srq

        And how many non-tRumpet GOTea voters are there in Iowa?

        Exactly.

        Doesn’t hurt that she’s not up for relection until 2020. But expect some steaming MAGA dumped on IA between now and then.

        • Oh, I think either Trump will be gone by then or else there just won’t be an America left and the pretense of free and fair elections will have already ended.

          The only way “MAGA” succeeds 3 1/2 years from now is if America itself has already become a full-on autocratic dictatorship ruled by President-for-Life Trump.

          • boatboy_srq

            I’m actually more worried about pResident Pence, or Ryan, or Hatch: each of them has a higher likelihood of getting the Trainahadi agenda enacted). But I take your point.

            And MAGA could be a joint Koch/Rosneft product, so who’s in the WH won’t matter quite so much.

          • And I yours. I always enjoy a good debate.

    • FormerMainer

      i doubt people in Iowa care about this issue at all either way.

      • boatboy_srq

        Just three words to prove you wrong: Representative Steve King. It’s not that they don’t actually care, so much as their ongoing tendency to elect people that imply that they really really do.

  • Tomcat

    Trump gets the award for most transparent administration.
    There is no doubt that everyone can see they hate us and want to put KKKhristians in charge of our government.

  • Blake J Butler

    i don’t trust her but even this statement coming from her is a cluster fuck.

    https://media.giphy.com/media/3o85xFGjUBlUw4XEek/giphy.gif

  • Sam_Handwich
    • Lazycrockett

      retweeted!

  • BobSF_94117

    I suppose lots of pols on both sides of the aisle are responding, and maybe I’m just being cynical, but it sure seems like this “announcement” is not just SQUIRREL for health care but also an opportunity for GOP pols to “prove how LGBT-friendly they really are” while they’re destroying health care.

  • HZ81

    Another foe GOP ally. Are transgendered Americans supposed to applaud this cover for taking their healthcare away later today?

    Fuck you.

    • FormerMainer

      A few thoughts:

      1. I struggle to see how this is “cover” for anything.

      2. The health care law is not taking away health care from trans people generally – while some may be affected, your comment suggests that law is more targeted than it is.

      3. Take support where you can get it – if you insist on 100% agreement on all issues, you will have few friends and lots of foes in government.

      • HZ81

        No. Voting GOP enables shit like this to happen today. I won’t apologize for rejecting their weak words. When it matters, they’re not here for us.

        And Joni is all for ACA repeal. She doesn’t give a shit if trans or vets or trans-vets get fucked.

        • FormerMainer

          Ok, but my comment says nothing about the virtues of voting or not voting GOP.

          The ACA repeal will affect different populations differently and it will hurt many trans folks and help a few. My point is that you should not reject her support due to her difference of opinion on an unrelated issue.

          • HZ81

            I read your comment I get your point—and I wholeheartedly disagree when it comes to the GOP.

            I reject her support. If you want it, go take it. I hope you have insurance to get that knife removed from your back.

          • FormerMainer

            This issue does not directly support me, but I take her support anyway. To accomplish things in politics, it is helpful to have support from both sides of the political spectrum and to have diverse allies. My goal is progress – I could care less about who helps me get there.

          • HZ81

            Good luck with that. Watch your back.

  • Jonathan Smith
  • AndyinChicago

    When you lose someone as crazy as Ernst, you’ve made a huge mistake.

    • Circ09

      Yep. I know she has a military career but this press release from her is actually shocking to me.

  • peacfulseas inWA

    Thank you all here for the positive support I always feel whenever trans issues are brought up on these pages. Heading out to my zombie truck garden while I can still hold back the tears and anger.

    • Gretchen

      My heart was in my throat as I read those tweets. I am not personally affected and can’t possibly understand how painful this must be, but I hope our words of support will give you a small measure of peace today. I wish I could offer you hope that this will be resolved swiftly, but please know that millions of Americans have your back and are ready to advocate for your rights.

      • peacfulseas inWA

        Thank you for that. The tears are not for me. I had what could only be described as a fairy tale transition. I am still happily married, I had complete acceptance from my family and friends. I was fortunate that there was an excellent peer support meeting here that both myself and wife attended. We live in a very diverse and progressive driven area although 15yrs ago I had to travel to Seattle to see my therapist,1.5hrs. I found great support and more importantly acceptance in the local lesbian community here. I have never been challenged as is happening to many. We belong to a couple boat groups, go to vintage travel trailer rallies and hot rods & Harley’s. I have coffee,do lunch, with neighbors in the same neighborhood we’ve lived in since Aug. 1977 . Upon my return from Thailand where I had surgery I was greeted with signed 6ft banner welcoming me home. I want this acceptance for all trans people. That is why the tears.

        • Gretchen

          Thank you for sharing your story. Hopefully in the not too distant future that level of support and acceptance will be a reality for everyone.

  • Adonisus

    Who would have thought that a potential Trans ban would seem to be the last straw for so many of the GOP? I don’t know if this is just cynical political posturing or what…..but this may be the turning point.

    • Jonathan Smith

      it’s just cynical posturing.

  • Ken M

    5 Articles later…Everybody is pissed. Point made. Anything going to be done to stop him? Very unlikely. He is leaving for 18 days of golf next week after all. Next topic.

    • DoD is already saying “Um, no, we don’t change regs like that.”

      • Karl Dubhe

        That’s good to hear. 🙂

      • Ken M

        Are they correct, or are they just trying to cover their asses till the dust settles?

        • No, they’re correct. Unlike Trump, the military obeys the relevant laws and regulations and they won’t just expel thousands of people serving just because he says they should be gone today.

          • Ken M

            Some good news. Thanks. Now I just wish IT would spread.

        • Tulle Christensen

          It’s the military, it has process to change things, you ALWAYS follow the process

          • Karl Dubhe

            Pissing by the numbers, anyone?

            (joke in basic, after we were taught drill for the first time)

  • KnownDonorDad

    Wow. I agree with Sen. Ernst. Mark the tape.

  • UrsusArctos

    Whoa! Stopped clock I guess. Whatever the reason, even an awful person doing the right thing is good.

  • rednekokie

    Well …. Duh! When are you going to realize that you are in the wrong party?
    Wake up sis!

  • No More GOP.

    She did something decent? *boggle*

  • JCF

    Drumpf’s to the right of Joni “pig castrator” Ernst. Un-f#cking-believable.

    [Or else she had a fling w/ a handsome Transman back in her Army days…]