ISRAEL: Government Opposes Adoption By Gay Couples

The Times Of Israel reports:

The government announced on Sunday that there are no intentions to change the law and allow gay couples to adopt in Israel. In response to a High Court petition, the state said that it was opposed to allowing same-sex couples to adopt because it would place an “additional burden” on the child.

“The professional opinion of the Child Welfare Services supports preserving the existing situation” that the adopting couple be a man and a woman, the government wrote to the court. This “takes into account the reality of Israeli society and the difficulty it may entail with regard to the child being adopted.”

More from Haaretz:

Udi Ledergor, chairman of the Association of Israeli Gay Fathers, said the state has “declared war on gay families.” Time after time, gay families encounter cold-heartedness and stupidity by State Prosecutor’s Office, who object to every request and petition by gay families in their demands for equality in adoption, surrogacy, parental registration and family life, he added.

“It’s amazing that Israel is willing to spend enormous resources on legal procedures whose entire goal is to harass and abuse gay families, instead of directing those resources to improve the lives of its citizens, who only want equality before the law and state,” he said, vowing to continue the fight for same-sex couples.

And from the Jerusalem Post:

The government, or more precisely the Ministry of Justice and the Ministry of Social Affairs, represented by the state attorney’s office, does not even attempt to refute the basis of the claims that same-sex couples are discriminated against by the law.

The government’s position is not to to provide equality under the adoption law but it is willing to open the law to possible changes to allow unmarried common-law partners to adopt, as long as they are a male-female couple.

  • Skokieguy [Larry]

    This is why its possible to be a ‘good jew’ and not anti-Semitic, but still oppose Israeli policies. The country is more and more in the grip of religious extremists.

    • Dagoril

      Most of the (American) Jews I’ve met have been great people. The people currently running Israel, however. a bunch of alte kakers they are

      • Randy Ellicott

        Most americans are great people but the people currently running america are a bunch of bigoted arseholes…

        • Jeffg166

          Ain’t that the truth.

      • Stev84

        Reform Jews (which make up a large percentage of American Jews) aren’t really considered Jews by Israel by the way. Not in the religious sense anyways

      • Jeffrey

        American Jews, and I am one, have little in common with Israelis or Orthodox Jews. Oh they often think they do but Israelis have much more in common with muslims than with the average American Jew…which is the thing we aren’t supposed to ever say. But believe me when there is a religious event and you have to deal with a rabbi or mashgiach most of us realize the nonsense of it even as we perpetuate the culture of it for sake of tradition.

        • clay

          You’re describing West Bank kibbutz more than Tel Aviv. Orthodox Jews are a minority in Israel and exert out-sized religious authority for political reasons, much like American Evangelicals. Israel is facing a real issue– stop being a democracy so it can be a Jewish state, or stop being officially Jewish so it can be a democracy.

          • Derrick Johns

            Just had another learning experience on JMG. Thanks, Clay.

    • Todd20036

      This is why Muslims shouldn’t be separated as “extraordinarily evil”.
      Any religion, including my own, becomes evil when they try to dictate secular law using religions doctrine.

      • Skokieguy [Larry]

        Or all Christians. (i.e. look at Jimmy Carter vs. Tony Perkins). BUT – extremists religions are extremist. If your ‘faith’ prevents you from existing and mixing with society at large, its moved from simply a system of beliefs and values to cult-like doctrine.

        • metrored

          I don’t know how you define a religion in that context because there are sects like the one you describe in each of the Abrahamic religions.

      • Do Something Nice

        Friendly amendment. Any dogma becomes evil when they try to dictate.

    • Jack

      I was born a few months after Israel. Prince Charles, Israel, and me.

      Not at all happy with its conservatism.

  • thom

    Uggh, disappointing.
    But a reminder that the US worked backwards from most countries. Here we secured (mostly) before marriage. A majority of countries are the opposite

  • Rex

    Yeah, because opposite sex couples NEVER put an additional burden on a child.

    • Todd20036

      Just look at our own First Family.
      I genuinely feel sorry for Barron, and even Tiffany

      • Karl Dubhe

        They’ll be able to afford therapy.

        I’ll say no more…

  • BearEyes

    yes because 2 loving mommies or 2 loving daddies place such an “additional burden” on the child.
    good grief!

    • HZ81

      Never ceases to amaze me how these bigots miss the daily onslaught of criminally liable straight parents in the news each and every day.

    • Strepsi

      Through my entire life, governments, churches and “well meaning” people have been telling me to side with the bullies. No.

    • clay

      It would seem to me that its the stab-happy ultra-Orthodox who are placing the additional burden. Or maybe’s it just the out-sized political power that right-wing coalition governments have allowed the religious parties that places the additional burden. Either way, it ain’t being adopted by someone other than an infertile Orthodox couple.

  • Rex

    Those opposite sex couples better not screw it up and raise a gay child.

    • GayOldLady

      My mom & dad were straight, I think. 😉

      • gaymex1

        lol…but you never know. In my lifetime I’ve known a few “straight” daddies.

      • Todd20036

        My mom experimented once or twice.
        My dad, I believe, was in deep denial about himself. I suspect that is why he was so insecure around me.

        • GayOldLady

          He was afraid you’d see through him. I’ve met a lot of those people along the way.

    • clay

      There have been cases of “honor killings” among the cHasidim. Unfortunately, they have a back-up plan to avoid raising a gay child.

  • thom

    Isn’t this LITERALLY on of the main arguments in Loving v Virginia? That children of interracial couples are “burdened”

    And yes, i know this is Israel, not USA.

    • Todd20036

      Very true.

    • i am multi-ethnic and was burdened like all children are burdened, which is to say bigots will always find reasons to hate anyone who is different in any way, including children of the unions of mixed religions, mixed classes, mixed regional birthplaces, mixed family incomes… it’s such bullshit that any of these laws protect children.

  • HZ81

    And they’re the most advanced place in the Middle East for LGBT. A long long way to go still. Fucking sad.

    • thom

      Even more sad, they are one of the most advanced places in the world, not just Middle East.
      Europe is getting it done. But Asian countries, African countries, Eastern European countries, South American countries all have a boatload of Anti-Gay laws. Even places like Australia

      • HZ81

        Very true. This fuckin’ world.

      • bsinps

        With the exception of a few countries in South America, a large number of countries do have Equality and SS Marriage

        • thom

          You’re right. My mistake.
          Are their adoption laws equal for all couples? I know it’s always a controversy when same sex marriage is debated in the legislation.

  • Dagoril

    Waiting for the flood of trolls to descend to tell us how awesome Israel is compared to neighboring Muslim countries.

  • Nax

    Israel tends to come up first when you google “Pinkwashing”?

  • Randy Ellicott

    So their argument is that they are too bigoted to deal with it and they would be mean to the child so instead of dealing with that they are going to avoid the issue….

  • GayOldLady

    “the state said that it was opposed to allowing same-sex couples to adopt
    because it would place an “additional burden” on the child.”

    And “the state” is the one placing the “additional burden” on the child. And silly me thought that Israel was more SANE about LGBT rights than the U.S., but apparently not.

    • Stev84

      Just like the US the country has veered far, far to the right. The immense power of the Ultra-Orthodox thanks to their high birth rate doesn’t help either.

      • GayOldLady

        Well that’s bad news.

  • Adam King

    The joys of living in a theocracy.

  • OdieDenCO

    Israel of all nations on earth should understand the consequences and end results of legislating discrimination.

  • gaymex1

    So, it’s better to be raised in a setting with no parents–orphanage–than to have two loving men or two loving women raise you. Heterosexuality–It’s like magic and it guarantees a less burdened childhood. I guess they never met my heterosexual, alcoholic, abusive father or they never saw the results of the upbringing that my husband and I offered our son. In his thirties now, he still is the joy of our lives. It was a privilege to show him the world.
    Screw them and their normative heterosexuality.

  • Adam Stevens

    This “takes into account the reality of Israeli society and the difficulty it may entail with regard to the child being adopted.”

    I guess ‘being better people’ never occurred to the heterosexual making that statement? They’re basically saying that because straights are so terrible, a child should remain homeless.

    But it does clue one in to their twisted thinking.

  • OdieDenCO

    what additional burden is placed on the child? the burden of defending a parent from the vicious onslaught of bigots? treat the cause not the symptom!

    • KarenAtFOH

      “My being a bigoted asshole places an undue burden on your child, so you can’t have one.”

      • -M-

        Exactly. “You’re an unfit parent because I’ll harass children to punish you.”

  • TexasBoy

    [sarcasm] I agree, being adopted by a loving gay couple is much more burdensome on the child than being unwanted and bounced around the foster care and orphanage systems. [/sarcasm]

  • Stev84

    Doesn’t matter if it’s Christianity, Islam or Judaism. Strip away the surface and it’s the exact same poison

  • once again, i’m offended by the idea of religious based government. it’s way past time to get rid of it as a valid concept. i don’t care what religion may be the dominant one in your country, but it needs to be completely separate from all aspects of government. founding government on mythology offends my mind, and my person and quality of life are diminished by it, anywhere it comes into play. if the religious deserve “liberty” bc of their beliefs, i deserve the same, for lack of my own. anything else is discriminatory and wrong.

    • KarenAtFOH

      Perhaps our AI masters will evolve to incorporate science and logic-based thinking as core aspects of their beings. And they will like us as nice pets. A girl can hope.

    • Derrick Johns

      well written.

  • Do Something Nice

    Wow, no pinkwashing. How refreshing.

  • BudClark

    Child abuse is rampant among the ultra-Orthodox. Those who report it are shunned. The ultra-Orthodox’ continued drive to make Israel into an ultra-Orthodox theocracy is going to blow up in their faces, sooner or later.

  • TheManicMechanic

    They must be clamoring for more money from the Repug administration.

    • Schlukitz

      And it doesn’t seem to bother them in the least that a good portion of that money comes out of the pockets of LGBT people who also pay taxes to our government.

  • GeoffreyPS

    But the “burden” being placed on the children is due to the prejudice of the people who supposedly want to protect them. Head hurts….ouch! This lame argument has also been used to justify bigotry against mixed-race couples. Think of the children. Poor little zebras. Yeah…. nothing like the true love of telling children it would be better for the world if they world if they didn’t exist.

  • Ross

    …it would place an “additional burden” on the child.

    The same rational could be applied in so many ways.

    For example, what if some court decided that being adopted by a Jewish couple would place an additional burden on a child?

  • kat

    With the same logic, every other country on earth could ban adoptions by Jews because of the burden being a minority puts on children.

  • https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6216c5738825a6c3f4bcb9a56626e635da3d73bccfa1414651e1ff5e1039a3ec.jpg

    Concern for burdening children is meaningless coming from the same culture that tortures, mutilates, and rapes children. The US and Israel care for more about pleasing adults who follow the Talmud than innocent children who have not yet chosen a spiritual path for themselves. When an adult forces a child’s penis to penetrate his mouth, it is rape. Religion is no excuse to injure a child by cutting off part of their penis.

  • Ninja0980

    So much for Israel being that LGBT safe haven eh?

    • andrew

      Actually in the area of the world where Israel exists it is a “safe haven.” It is far from a perfect nation, but it is far better than all the other nation in the Middle East, South West Asia and North Africa.

      • kat

        Not if you’re Palestinian.

        • andrew

          That is indeed one of the big issues that makes it a very imperfect nation.

  • customartist

    And we, meaning the Taxpayers of the United States, are supporting this Theocracy.
    Israel is our number one recipient of foreign aid.