BELFAST: Thousands March For Marriage [VIDEO]

The Belfast Telegraph reports:

Thousands of people have joined a major parade through Belfast city centre demanding same-sex marriage rights. The demonstration on Saturday afternoon concluded with a rally in front of City Hall.

The ban on equal marriage in Northern Ireland is one of several sticking points delaying the formation of a new powersharing government at Stormont. It is the only part of the UK and Ireland where the practice remains outlawed.

The DUP’s opposition to changing the law has attracted increased scrutiny across the UK since the party became the UK Government’s kingmaker at Westminster. The DUP has used a controversial Stormont voting mechanism, the petition of concern, to prevent a law change, despite a majority of assembly members supporting the move at the last vote.

  • Max_1

    More X-tian pearl clutching about how Love isn’t Love because their gawd…
    … They bought the bull. Their buy-bull told them so.

  • Sporkfighter

    Think about it … public marches in support of leaving people to take on the challenges of choosing their own partners, forming their own families, living their own lives … why should that have to be a thing?

    • KnownDonorDad

      Religious and political fundamentalism. But demographic and cultural shifts can overcome that.

      • another_steve

        All hail the glory and wisdom of the life expectancy tables, which periodically clear the earth of its pre-evolved garbage.

        • Sporkfighter

          Just imagine society if medicine ever develops a true life extending technology. Only the very wealthy and powerful will be able to afford it, and those bastards will never die!

          • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

            We can help them along…accidentally, of course.

  • Phillip in L.A.

    Thank you for posting, Joe! Wish I could be there in Belfast, marching with them!

  • KCMC
  • another_steve

    Do the homophobes in Northern Ireland not see that theirs is a losing battle? That marriage equality is inevitable?

    Can they be so stupid?

    • Max_1

      Yes, Yes, and Yes…

    • Ninja0980

      Yes to all of your questions.

    • OdieDenCO

      why should their homophobes be any smarter than our homophobes? perkins, brown, donohue…

      • bambinoitaliano

        But the three stooges are con men who take advantage of the stupid.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      Yes, but you have to remember, the death throes of Martyrdom are their truest desire, to be seen as the oppressed.

  • Btw Happy Canada Day 🇨🇦

  • margaretpoa

    Nothing frightens politicians like people in the streets. You go, Irish advocates for equality!

    • ChrisMorley

      It is much likely now, because the DUP no longer have enough seats to force a veto through the Northern Ireland Assembly against law reform. You need 30 votes for a ‘petition of concern’ (=veto) and the DUP only have 28 votes.
      BUT
      The power-sharing Executive has collapsed (long story) and so the Assembly can’t sit. Sinn Fein and the DUP have to sort out their differences by Monday afternoon. The DUP are Sabbatarians so they don’t do talks on Sundays.

      Theresa May urges DUP and Sinn Féin leaders to reach a deal http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-politics-40458168

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      • StillALiberal

        I admire your optimism but I believe the DUP can get another two votes to reach 30 for the petition of concern. Hardline anti-LGBT MLA Jim Allister of TUV has already said he will back the DUP, so they only need 1 of the 10 UUP members to back them. The UUP is not much better on LGBT rights than the DUP, getting only one of them to back the DUP will not be too hard.

        • ChrisMorley

          Each of the 5 times the DUP has used the veto procedure to block marriage equality in the past, only DUP members voted to veto. The UUP don’t like the DUP upstarts.

          I think there are grounds for being hopeful.

          • StillALiberal

            True – but the other 5 times the DUP could veto without the support of other MLAs so they never bothered to ask for support. Next time they will need extra support and Allister and Beggs have said publicly that being anti-SSM is more important to them than any resentment about the DUP.

          • ChrisMorley

            Thanks, I missed that report from March.
            I’ll keep hoping and we’ll see on Monday if the Executive rises from the ashes.

  • Natty Enquirer

    Stormont is the only part of the UK and Ireland where powersharing government is outlawed? COPY EDITOR!

  • TheSeer

    I love their signs “Love is a human right”.

  • katkelly57

    As the IRA used to say, Tiocfaidh ar la!
    That applies here as well.

    Ádh mór a Tuaisceart Éireann!

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Wonderful, the fight continues and the wave keeps moving on. Take not world, the levees have broken and the wave is headed your way.

  • Cuberly

    (face palm) Does anyone believe anything that idiot says?

    https://twitter.com/LPDah/status/881240874901946369

    • Ernest Endevor

      And I am Marie of Romania.

      • OdieDenCO

        I am Spartacus!

        • TexasBoy

          Agador Spartacus?

          • OdieDenCO

            a little from column a, a little from column b

        • coram nobis

          I am Brian!

        • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

          Let’s be Frank…

      • Cuberly

        Yo Marie!

      • TuuxKabin

        still?

        • Ernest Endevor

          When life is a glorious cycle of song, a medley of extemporanea; and love is a thing that can never go wrong, I am Marie of Romania.

    • worstcultever

      Of COURSE she’s a peerless global stateswoman, singlehandedly creating world peace.

      She and Dumpy should have a Bloated Ego-Off contest.

      • Cuberly

        Weird she didn’t go into any of her supposed efforts when she was interviewed on the square during the conference. She was busy slamming the US & didn’t say squat about Putin.

        She’ll say anything at any time to curry favor in any way she thinks she can get it.

    • SoCalGal20

      Hahahahaha NO

    • DoctorDJ

      Illusions of grandeur.

  • HZ81

    Sweet! Go, Belfast!

    And go Irish guys. I love an accent and that one is a pants-dropper.

  • Cuberly
  • MB

    Pope removes German cardinal, third in Vatican hierarchy, as sex abuse crisis catches up ~ Associated Press

    VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis sacked the head of the Vatican office that handles sex abuse cases Saturday, just days after he released another top Vatican cardinal to return home to stand trial for alleged sexual assault. The developments underscored how the Catholic Church’s sex abuse crisis has caught up with Francis, threatening to tarnish his legacy over a series of questionable appointments, decisions and oversights in his four-year papacy.

    Perhaps sensing a need to change course, Francis declined to renew the mandate of German Cardinal Gerhard Mueller as prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the Vatican office that processes and evaluates all cases of priests accused of raping or molesting minors.

    Francis named Mueller’s deputy, Monsignor Luis Ladaria Ferrer, a Spanish Jesuit, to run the powerful office instead. During Mueller’s five-year term, the congregation amassed a 2,000-case backlog and came under blistering criticism from Irish abuse survivor Marie Collins, who had been tapped by Francis in 2014 to advise the church on caring for abuse victims and protecting children from pedophile priests.

    Collins resigned from the papal commission in March, citing the “unacceptable” level of resistance from Mueller’s office to heeding the commission’s proposals.

    In May, Francis said her criticism of the slow pace in processing abuse cases was justified and announced he was adding more staff to handle the overload. Earlier this year he also named Cardinal Sean O’Malley as a member of the congregation in hopes of ensuring better cooperation.

    Mueller’s ouster was the second major Vatican shake-up this week.

    On Thursday, Francis granted another Vatican hardliner, Cardinal George Pell, a leave of absence to return to his native Australia to face trial on multiple charges of sexual assault stemming from years ago. Pell has denied the charges. Still, Francis has come under criticism for having named him to the powerful position of the Vatican’s money czar in 2014 in the first place, given that accusations of wrongdoing had dogged him even then. Pell has been widely denounced at home for mishandling abuse cases while he was a bishop and of having treated victims harshly in seeking to protect the church from abuse-related civil litigation.

    “In the church’s current emergency, with its third-ranking prelate soon to appear in an Australian court on child abuse charges, Pope Francis needs a CDF prefect who will work with Cardinal Sean O’Malley on the church’s abuse crisis, not against him,” said Terence McKiernan of BishopAccountability.org, an online resource of abuse documentation.

    Mueller and Pell were two most powerful cardinals in the Vatican, after the Vatican secretary of state, Cardinal Pietro Parolin. Their absences, coupled with Francis’ earlier demotion of arch-conservative Cardinal Raymond Burke as the Vatican’s chief justice, will likely create a power vacuum for the conservative wing in the Holy See hierarchy. The week’s events could be seen as an attempt by Francis to turn the page, given his legacy has already been sullied by repeated failings to make good on his “zero tolerance” pledge for abuse.

    • coram nobis

      I believe the “Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith” used to be known as the Holy Office of the Inquisition. It was also Bennie XVI’s post before becoming pope.

      • GanymedeRenard

        And you are correct, my friend.

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      The Jesuits are taking over. The conservatives in the Church are going to be having a meltdown about this.

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        You can’t spell Jesus without the help of Jesuits.

        • JT

          They’re Jesus IT.

      • SoCalGal20

        I know Jesuits value(d) science and education.

      • another_steve

        My husband is an activist who’s active in Catholic organizations that work for social justice for queer people. One of those organizations – New Ways Ministry – presented Father Martin with its “Bridge Building Award” last October. I attended the award ceremony with my husband.

        Martin is quite a guy. Brave and articulate. A wonderful ally of our community.

        More, for anyone interested:

        https://www.ncronline.org/news/people/new-ways-ministry-honors-jesuit-fr-james-martin

      • Paul

        So the Jesuits are basically the Catholic equivalent of the United Church of Christ or Episcopalians?

        • No. The Jesuits are both ultra-Catholic and ultra-conservative — indeed so conservative as to be radical, in both the theological and secular senses of that word.

  • safari

    O/T: It’s amusing to see the Economist discuss fetish gear manufacturing within Pakistan
    https://twitter.com/TheEconomist/status/881242576841564163

    • coram nobis

      Of course the Economist is on the story. It’s a niche market and always good for the balance of trade. It’s like that old story about the Chinese factory filling a big order for Free Tibet flags for export customers.

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7370903.stm

  • safari
    • worstcultever

      I like how Pete’s twitter homepage says how to pronounce his name (BOOT-edge-edge). Wish everybody with weird names would do that!

    • TuuxKabin

      He can’t help it. Je,je.

  • coram nobis

    I liked the “This Marriage Should Be Illegal” poster.

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      IRA was accompanying Belfast lgbt marches in the early ’90s, as security, so they’re not exactly Johnny-come-latelies to the issue.

    • Dramphooey

      Anything that makes the shit in Northern Ireland look bad. I have to shake my head at keeping a nation divided over stupid shit like the different between Catholics and Protestants.

      • Sporkfighter

        It wasn’t Catholics against Protestants; religion was a proxy for Irish against English, a different form of “Us against Them”.

      • grindstone

        Catholic v Protestant is really just shorthand for the division. There are factions within factions, and it’s really more of “we are part of the UK” vs “the six occupied northern counties”. Aside from that, Belfast may be the only city I’ve visited and immediately fell in love with, and it’s a place I never thought I could visit safely in my lifetime. There are integrated schools now (Catholic and Protestant kids together), there is art where the walls and gates used to be. There is hope.

  • Lazycrockett
    • Leo

      Trump’s impeachment or the Ten Calamities.

      Let’s place bets on what comes first.

      • coram nobis

        Maybe there’ll be a plague of frogs in Paris.

    • safari

      Don’t mess with crows.

    • Cuberly

      Counting Crows?

      heh heh….ok, I’ll show myself the way out….

    • another_steve
  • Leo

    OT. So Hannity’s threatening to leak ‘further secrets’ about Joe. I’m wondering what exactly he’s referring to given that we already know about the affair and the intern died from a heart attack. Just helping ratings? What’s new, meh.

  • Jay Mills

    Don’t count on it anytime soon. I’m sure backroom deals have been done. DUPed.

  • Leo

    OT2 from McClatchy. Deep increasing infighting! Hurray!

    • worstcultever

      Hope they all end up in a bloody heap just in time for Mueller to cuff ’em.

      • UrsusArctos

        Not the DC coroner hauling off 3 victims expired bloviators?

    • safari

      Per Joy: “Trump is Trump.”

    • another_steve

      A tipping point may soon be reached wherein smart White House staffers will be concerned that being anchored to the Titanic that is the Trump White House may not be a good career choice. They may head for the lifeboats and get the hell out of there, rather than see their careers sink with the ship.

      I can see that happening — particularly with regard to younger staffers.

      • Silver Badger

        “There’s Got To Be a Morning Afffffter…”

        • Megrim Twist

          Come thru Maureen McGovern!

      • 2guysnamedjoe

        I imagine they’ll still be young scummy repugs, even after they scurry from the sinking White House.

        • another_steve

          Probably.

          If you accept a job working for a man who’s bragged about sexually accosting women, I’d say you’re pretty morally deficient.

  • Lazycrockett
    • Ninja0980

      Just wait until students start challenging religious studies.

    • safari

      Like what the EPA is trying to do — they seem to forget that science is challenged as part of its process.

    • worstcultever

      What is “science” anyway? Just another liberal, anti-God conspiracy. Somebody told me about “Planck’s Constant” once, and it sounded fishy as hell.

      • “The speed of causality is the maximum speed limit if the universe.”
        Florida: “Jesus is faster”

      • whollyfool

        I see what you did there

    • Cuberly

      I posted this in my twitter timeline earlier.

      There’s a concerted effort within the scientific community to locate data and find ways to archive it before the government, basically, hides it.

      It was widely reported back in Nov after the election but the efforts have taken off since there’s mounting evidence the Trump admin and GOP in general have every intention of implementing an anti-science agenda. Legally they can’t erase or destroy data but they can make it more difficult to find.

      https://twitter.com/LPDah/status/881244294165651456

      • SoCalGal20

        LOL I’m pretty sure legality won’t stop them from destroying scientific data if they think they can get away with it.

        • Cuberly

          Yeah, I wouldn’t put anything past the Koch fueled fever swamps of the GOP mindset.

      • Tomcat

        They are also removing intelligence from Washington.

    • Silver Badger

      Good thing most of Florida will be under water soon. We need to build a wall NOW!

      • OdieDenCO

        it will be interesting to hear the conversion when cat 5s become the norm rather than the exception and Florida and most of the south begins to look like a bulldozed slum.

        • Natty Enquirer

          As opposed to an unbulldozed slum?

          • OdieDenCO

            the same, but not so well organized

    • Treant

      Given that many “science” classes are “let’s present creationism as a valid alternative,” that has a probability of backfiring badly…

  • Ernest Endevor

    Big deal. Meanwhile, here in the capital of everywhere we had a Gays 4 Trump rally!!!! Woo hoo!!!!! MAGA, bitchez!! This pic captures the proud moment when the leader took the stage. Winning!!!11! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5faaa78979bdb3898ffccbcb9c3c248fd13793920f59d51f7e47005a8a8e5333.jpg

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      That is so…. delicious.

    • djcoastermark

      Crap, Now brian brown will be bragging that his rally in DC a few weeks ago, was twice as big as the gay one in DC. Still, it’s nice to see such a yuuuge turnout. /s

    • Blake J Butler

      Ew! not even for blowies would i be caught at one of those events, i have too much self respect to go to one of those.

      So pathetic, so low so low.

    • Silver Badger

      There were THAT many? I’m surprised!

    • djcoastermark

      Gotta love the “stage” made up of old pallets too. Did they cart them all the way up from NC ?

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        Gotta also love the optimism behind dragging those four amplified speakers to the event.
        So not needed.

        • Adam King

          They could just huddle up and whisper.

    • Treant

      I’ve blown more men in a single evening than there are in that “crowd.*”

      * No, not really, but it sounds plausible and it’s entirely possible that I could have!

  • That_Looks_Delicious
  • Lazycrockett
    • jmax

      What the hell?!?!?

  • JT
  • That_Looks_Delicious

    OT – Another victory for the Green Party! So much winning.

    https://twitter.com/thehill/status/881269948978532353

    • SoCalGal20

      Who needs science?!

      • safari

        Not the GOP. They want to redefine science to include a political layer of discussion.

        • That_Looks_Delicious

          Florida, of course, will not be outdone in this area.

          https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/881208316390756353

          • Tomcat

            Well I hope the kids run them out of the classroom.
            Kids are not as stupid as the average republican.
            They have been exposed to reality and not JUST religion.

          • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

            I hope they enjoy the spread of rat lungworm and brain-eating amoebae while wallowing in deliberate ignorance.

    • Adam King

      The Toddler in Chief, having tantrums and breaking things again.

    • Tomcat

      Oh boy more money for the top 1%. We don’t need no stinking sciences.

  • safari

    I really can’t post them — it’s tweeting again.

    • OdieDenCO

      it is your patriotic duty to post for the good of the twitterless

      • safari

        And it is my rage that I am trying to avoid.

        • OdieDenCO

          take 2 vodkas and breathe

          • safari

            It’s my local celebration just outside my window and tomorrow my Trump-supporting father (I could say so much more) has his birthday. So — excuse me.

          • OdieDenCO

            then 4 vodkas and join the party. leave tomorrow to tomorrow

          • safari

            Oh: a twin coordination is required.

          • OdieDenCO

            always best to lube up before entry

          • That_Looks_Delicious

            You’re a twin? There are two of you? How fabulous.

          • safari

            Try growing up x2 gay.

          • That_Looks_Delicious

            Oh, I did that. I just didn’t have a twin doing it. But my younger sister is gay, too.

          • safari

            Cancer, letter, a warning: I will write an essay one day; but… Cher — is the punchline.

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      Mooommmmm! It’s tweeting again.

      Johnny, Suzie, I told you a hundred times don’t tease the president. Just check and see that his food bowl and water bowl are full.

      • Treant

        He’s Tweeting me!

        I’m not Tweeting her! She follows me!

      • safari

        Sacrafice.

    • Scout

      https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/881273362454118400

      Lol, that’s so interesting, thanks for sharing your deep thoughts

  • Michael R

    Buzz Aldrin listens as Trump says

    “One day we will look back and say how did we do it without space?”

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c43d46b15476c9ea288a97a141760ce270e6f919f1ede3ae93e633ab5f988fc8.gif

  • SoCalGal20

    Totally OT but fun and for a good cause. Lin-Manuel Miranda has organized this #Ham4all fundraiser on Prizeo for the Immigrants: We Get the Job Done Coalition which provides assistance for immigrants. Anyway, celebs have been challenging each other and everybody is challenged to do their own #Ham4all videos performing songs from Hamilton and there are a lot of great videos in the #Ham4All tag on twitter.

    A couple fun ones that came across my dash today.

    This girl does an AMAZING performance of “Alexander Hamilton” in ASL. I’m posting both her tweet and the full length YouTube video (her YouTube channels has some other songs from Hamilton as well).

    https://twitter.com/carol_asl123/status/880192326903123968

    https://youtu.be/EpzRN7LHP1k

    And here’s Ed Helms

    https://twitter.com/edhelms/status/880864535409774595

    https://www.prizeo.com/campaigns/lin-manuel-miranda/ham-4-all

  • Sam_Handwich
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  • northern_neighbour

    I am thinking Germany is going to get marriage equality first, before Northern Ireland, but of course I hope they will get it soon, …and Australia also… long overdue there.

    It’s Canada Day weekend up here in the Great White North. We’ve had equality for 12 years already, and the sky did not fall, catastrophe did not strike, God did not hurl thunderbolts, and fundamentalist haters were not thrown in prison or deprived of any rights, freedoms, or of the “sanctity” of their own marriages.

    So for about 90% of Canadians, it is pretty much a non-issue.

    Happy July 4th to all you guys on Tuesday. And keep up the DAILY RESISTANCE!