Megachurch Pastor: Gay People Do Not Exist [VIDEO]

The megachurch pastor who called the Obergefell ruling “the greatest act of terror on American soil since 9/11” is back with more reasonable Christian philosophy. Hemant Mehta reports at The Friendly Atheist:

Pastor John MacArthur responded to a question about whether a gay Christian could go to Heaven by saying gay people didn’t exist. “No one is gay. People commit adultery, they commit sins of homosexuality, they lie, they steal, they cheat. That’s like saying, ‘You know, I keep robbing banks, but I’m a robber. I’m a bank robber. What am I gonna do? I’m a bank robber.’ That is not an excuse for what you do. Are there certain kind of impulses that lead people in that direction? Yes. But I think one of the really deadly aspects of this is to let people define themselves as gay.”

Mehta points us to an earlier MacArthur quote about how to treat your gay children:

“You have to alienate them. You have to separate them. You can’t condone that. It’s inconsistent with a profession of Christ. So you isolate them. You don’t have a meal with them. You separate yourself from them. You turn them over to Satan.”

Wikipedia notes that MacArthur has called the Catholic Church “the kingdom of Satan” and has referred to the Pope as the anti-Christ. MacArthur is the senior pastor at California’s massive Grace Community Church.

(Via Christian Nightmares)

  • bambinoitaliano

    Someone is still using that I’m not gay but my boyfriend is excuse?

  • OdieDenCO

    I don’t exist? so if I beat you to bloody pulp it must be an act of god

    • Todd20036

      And more importantly, you cannot be charged with the assault.

  • Acronym Jim

    It’s very telling that these people are now getting their talking points from a Chechen dictator.

    • RoFaWh

      A dictator who is Muslim, btw.

  • Todd20036

    Yet another example of someone who reduces our entire existence to a sex act.

    We aren’t gay. We merely fuck men. If we stop fucking men, we wouldn’t be gay.

    We aren’t attracted to men anymore than we are attracted to women, we just do it because we hate God.

    Though I doubt anyone asked him why people are gay if it’s a choice, in countries where being gay is a capital offense.

    But yeah, logic and all that.

    • April

      Since they think its all about sex how do we know John MacArthur is heterosexual. I mean who would be intimate with this hateful, hissing bigot.

      • RoFaWh

        A simple guess about the reason they think about sex all the time and think others do too: they have really lousy sex lives.

      • Chris Baker

        He is not a heterosexual, he is only a person who engages in heterosexual acts.

    • Chris Baker

      Very well put. It’s possible to be gay, and celibate. Whether one chooses to engage in sex or not does not change his or her attraction to people of the same sex.

  • shellback

    It must be gay scapegoat day. Why was I not informed?

  • acde

    Arrest this wacko. He is promoting blatant child abuse from a public position of imputed “authority”. Isolation [particularly in childhood] of any sort has damaging results that last a life time

  • That_Looks_Delicious
    • james1200
      • Oscarlating Wildely

        An Egyptian Mau. That’s Iris Royalty. You can’t fuck with those cats. They’ll get all Osiris on your ass in the afterlife.

        • TK

          That is such a cool video! And a VERY cool cat. I’d love to have one!

          • Oscarlating Wildely

            We have one (of too many): They are gorgeous, wicked smart, agile— and take shit from no-one. They’re not mean, just vindictive when they’re not worshiped. Combined with smart and gorgeous: deadly.

  • zhera

    10 bucks on this guy having some nasty skeletons in his closet. That quote about gay children shows he’s got no humanity.

    • vorpal 😼

      Nasty skeletons AND dildos.

    • Speaking of closets: he’s so far in his that he’s having tea with Mr. Tumnus.

    • TK

      He probably has some favorite altar boys. But it’s okay – cuz he’s not gay. Just a sinner like all of us. And will be forgiven by accepting Jeebus into his life. So.. hey… fuck anyone you want! All that you want. As long as you ultimately repent at the end, it’s all okay!!

  • April

    You silly goof, gays don’t go to heaven.

    Because there is no heaven to go to.

    • Todd20036

      And if there is one, you can bet it’s a non stop sex party where the alcohol doesn’t give you a hangover and Soma comes in chewable tablets with different flavors.

      And the music is heavy trance/techno.

      I’m perfectly ok with my mind being in the sewer.

      • April

        I hope not. I just want to catch up on my sleep…

      • TK

        And the “sewers” in heaven will be running with wine. If there is a heaven, we shall indeed be there – and these stupid fucks will be left on their boring, uptight earth wishing they could join the party.

      • RoFaWh

        Come, come, diversity isn’t just for this earth.

        In heaven as I conceive it, the rule is whatever you want, you get, be it drugs, sex partners, or music.

    • Oscarlating Wildely

      God, an afterlife of Heteros and no contributions from LGBTQ people and probably no alcohol or decent music… I’m certainly not joining.

      • April

        Yeah, it would be Southern Gospel Music. All the time.

        Ugh

  • bambinoitaliano

    Speaking of copyright perhaps gay, homosexual and LBGTQ words related should be patterned. These collective assholes of christer are certainly raking it in with our sacred holy vocabulary.

  • Joseph Miceli

    I see this human shit stain is keeping with orthodox Christianity’s mission to drive gay kids to suicide. Bravo, but maybe they are just thinking too small. Instead, why don’t they just butcher and eat their own gay kids? The effect is similar but then they’ll save on grocery bills.

  • Tawreos

    This guy needs every orifice he has fucked hard…with railroad ties!

    • RoFaWh

      That is misuse of railroad ties, even the really old ones that have rotted out in the core and now provide luxury accommodations for carpenter ants.

      • Jonathan Smith

        and splinters?

        • RoFaWh

          And lots of well-weathered creosote.

  • Jonathan Smith

    WTF Pick on “da gayz” Day?

  • justme

    Want real terror..
    TAX the churches…

  • Pat Padrnos

    Jeez – the crazy abounds!! I have a lesbian daughter – I knew it from the time she was quite young. Was it something she did or said? No – just a sense I had. The hard part for me was waiting for her to tell me – finally at 16 she told me. i told her, “That’s nice Sweetheart – what would you like for dinner?” She looked at me through her tears and burst out laughing. A moment I will never forget. She is my best friend – always will be. Anyone who shuns a gay child is beyond hope.

    • RoFaWh

      Coming out and trying out Enchroma corrective glasses: some cry, some laugh, some do both.

    • Todd20036

      That is wonderful! I so wish I had one parent who accepted me at such an early age.
      I would have been very much happier during my childhood.

      • Jonathan Smith

        Wow. i had it easy. at about 13 my parents, both hair dressers, sat me down and said “so, you’re gay?”

        • Todd20036

          My mother cried. My father thought I could marry it away.

          My mother threatened to disown me later.

          And mind you, this is when I was an adult.

          Fortunately, I was financially independent and told them to cram my inheritance down their throat and never speak to me ever again.

          Many kids don’t even have it that good. That’s why I donate to the Trevor project which helps gay kids who are literally thrown away by their parents.

          In my case, my mother reconciled (I am still in the will), my father died

          In short, don’t take your experiences for granted, you are seriously blessed with loving, accepting parents.

          • FAEN

            I had a different experience and I don’t take it for granted at all. My parents suspected I was gay when I was a kid and knew I was gay when I was an adult but didn’t want to bring it up until I was ready. Unfortunately that took longer than it should have given the internal homophobia I dealt with.

            My Mom could have cared less and was happy that the depression and darkness I was in was lifting. My Dad was a little sad to begin with but after a while he and my mom became marriage advocates. Heck my Dad even introduced pro LGBT legislation at his golf club.

            I also found out one of his friends encouraged him to disown me for ‘choosing to be that way’. That was the end of that friendship.

            Never thought I’d see the day where I was out to everyone and have my parents right there with me. I am forever grateful to them.

          • Craig Howell

            A triumph for real family values.

        • FAEN

          Nice lol.

      • FAEN

        I’m sorry you went through that matey.

    • AmeriCanadian

      Thank you for being a parent!

      Any parent who willfully turns his or her back on his or her child was never a parent in the first place. When someone will put an imaginary concept before his or her own flesh and blood, there just aren’t words to describe the insanity.

    • Ninja0980

      If only all parents were like you, the world would be a better place.

    • Oscarlating Wildely

      Same age as my daughter. She told me and my bigger concern was that she was going to ask for another cat. My 16 year old son? He was much more concerned that no-one else in his school fessed up to thinking that God was a joke than him being bi (“and please pass with the biphobic bullshit. I dig chicks and dicks. That makes way more sense than some bullshit fairy in the sky.”)

      We celebrated with rose champagne/sparking cider, and then I think I took a nap. And then we went back to planning Pride. My whole family “floats around the letters.” We were more concerned with having a good Pride. That and the fact that we really already have way too many cats.

      • WretchedMouse

        I came out when i was 14 and my mom at first was like oh i never would have thought, but after that we became best friends since I longer had to hide or keep my boyfriends a secret. My step-dad on the other hand tried to understand it but he was a huge dick anyway so I didn’t care if he understood it or not.

    • marshlc

      My daughter came out to me when she was fifteen. We talked for a while, with lots of reassurance, hugs, a bit of strategizing about who and how to manage the news in the family, blah, blah. So she went to bed, and I lay there thinking.

      And for a minute, yes, the thought came into my head “What if I’m wrong?”

      In the moment, all my instincts and natural feelings had been “It’s fine. You’re fine, your relationship with me is fine, it’s all OK, there’s nothing wrong with you and I’m on your side 100%” But later, alone, I wondered if I was doing the right thing by supporting her wholeheartedly, if it was in her best interests. Not about fear she’d go to hell, any of that, but about the rough road the world would be forcing her to walk on. If I didn’t support this, would it go away and she not have to face discrimination and bullshit?

      But the only way to do that would be to push her away, withdraw support right now, at a time when she needed it. So I figured “Fuck it. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong.” When the choice is between possibly making a wrong choice, or standing with your kid when they need you, well, there’s no choice. The whole wrestling with my doubts took about 45 seconds.

      And, of course, it was the right choice. It wouldn’t have gone away – even in that moment of doubt, I knew that. All that would have happened is that she would have been unhappy, conflicted and angry, at a fragile time of life.

      Which is why these assholes are so dangerous. Parents facing something they might not understand, worried about doing the right thing, are told to hurt their children, to push them away – and some of them are going to do it, convinced that they’re making the right choice in the long run. Thinking of it as another type of stern discipline, like making kids do their homework or brush their teeth. And only finding out, later, after their relationship with their child is ruined, or, or, or even worse consequences, that this isn’t about guiding your children, but accepting them. Loving them.

      • Pat Padrnos

        I recall so many doubts myself – wondering if I was wrong. I wanted to confront her during those years to try to make it easier for her – but my fear was “What if I am wrong – will that traumatize her?” Quite frankly – all you can do is the best that is in your heart and your gut. I think ultimately – just love the person – no matter what. Be there for whatever.
        As far as the painful road – yes. We went through much fear and sadness. In the area we live – at that time – I did not feel it was a safe place for her to be – so I sent her to the Bay Area to a boarding school – from there she moved to San Fran to start college. Was that the end of the fear – no. Although the Bay Area is a somewhat safe place for gays – it is certainly not guaranteed.
        Ignorance and hate are always there. We have come so far and yet the “good fight” is still out there. My daughter is now 55 – successful in her nursing career. She has raised 2 adopted children and is co-parenting with her partner raising 3 more children. No one with half a brain would be so stupid as to make a negative remark to me about gay people. Have faith and be strong.

    • Todd Allis

      Aw, what a lovely story and a great parent!

    • Regan DuCasse

      I”m so happy for your daughter!

    • doninkansas

      My family was the same way. I told my dad first, he laughed and said he’d known since I was 12 years old (58 now). He also said the whole family discussed it at the time and no one cared. I asked why he didn’t tell me, he said I had to discover it for myself. He also told me that if I ever had a commitment ceremony with someone (long before gay marriage was even thoughts of and he also told me there was no valid reason that it shouldn’t be legal), he wanted to be a part of it.

  • ChrisInKansas

    So he’s not a heterosexual, then? He just commits heterosexual acts.

    And he’s not a Christian. He just commits Christian acts.

    Etc etc etc.

    • Jonathan Smith

      that was NOT a Christian act.

  • Pucks yer Mackd

    God doesn’t exist either, but I don’t chase christians around things to marginalized or snuff them out!

    • DesertSun59

      It may be time if Pence gets into the WH.

  • Lazycrockett
    • DesertSun59

      No one has turned. No one has quit. No one has squealed. Everyone is coddling him. Those closest to him are praising him in public. Those closest to him are LYING for him. His base worships him more than ever now.

      There is no evidence ANYWHERE that the Right is about to say no to this charlatan.

      • Bad Tom

        That article is from The American Conservative. Yet it reads as against Trump as if it was from Mother Jones: well reasoned and scathing.

        Trump is in deep shit.

        • No, he’s not. The American Conservative crowd are not his peeps. Plenty of that lot were against him all of last year for a lot of good it did. Alex Jones has more influence over the Trumpvangelicals than they do.

      • The base is not going to turn on him. Ever. It’s just not going to happen. The establishment of the party didn’t want him and tried to take him down. One of the conservative magazines (I forget which one) ran an entire issue of nothing but anti-Trump articles by various writers from the right. Nothing was going to stop him. The business interests created this big basket of deplorables to get tax cuts and deregulation and now that mob is in control of their party and there’s not a goddamn thing they can do about it now. They are stuck with him. And because of gerrymandering, hardly any Republican in congress has to fear a Democrat next year but they do have to fear being knocked out by a primary challenger from the Trumpvangelical wing of the party.

        As someone said a few months ago, it’s like we’re living in the fucked up alternate timeline in some scifi movie. But no one is going to go back in time and fix this for us. We are stuck with it. Trump will be president until January 2021 and we need to find ways to keep him from passing his agenda. Impeachment is a pipe dream.

    • KarenAtFOH

      You’d think the shit sandwich would eventually taste like crap.

      • David Walker

        It’s the ketchup. And some onions.

    • Gustav2

      After the TrumpCare debacle and the foreign policy mess, can we have a week or two of press telling the county:

      “After the last election the Republican Party is in complete disarray!”

    • Gerry Fisher

      How could this NOT be the case. Nepotism plus complete lack of experience plus an impossible work assignment plus zero accountability = this.

  • 2patricius2

    We often have had to be invisible. But unlike this preacher’s monster god, we do actually exist.

  • DesertSun59

    “You have to alienate them. You have to separate them. You can’t condone that.”

    That is the original Christian terrorism.

    • clay

      Which, Paul said, was because the Christians’ faith was so weak and immature to be able to understand how to deal with others at the table.

    • TK

      Christianity has a bigger history of “terrorism”, torture, violence, etc than any religion on earth. And they are still trying to retain their tyranny over the world and its people. Interesting how much they try to protect and shield their pedophile priests… but gay people don’t even deserve “existence”.

  • Gustav2

    Well…at least he is correct on the whole Roman Catholic thing. lol

  • KarenAtFOH

    Sweet as a rainbow.

  • bambinoitaliano
    • Jonathan Smith

      oh, honey, I’m still grasping.

      • Todd20036

        I still do a lot of that, myself.

        • and to myself….
          but i digress..

      • TK

        Love grasping, grappling, grabbing (with permission of course!!)
        Gay people – what a concept. Who’da thunk???

        • Jonathan Smith

          Mega-Church pastors……constantly, apparentlty

  • Southeast PDXer

    Wait. Does that mean I’m a figment of my own imagination, or you people are a figment of my imagination? Or I’m a figment of your imagination? I’m so confused.

    • clay

      You are the queen of the universe. We all live only to serve your fantasies.

    • bambinoitaliano

      Your gay sex is a figment of your imagination. Carry on!

      • RoFaWh

        Well, those who pontificate have been known to say “the brain is the largest sexual organ.”

  • vorpal 😼

    If nobody is gay (although my penis begs to differ), I fail to see the problem with the Obergefell ruling.

  • That_Looks_Delicious

    OT – Can I just say that Tom Cotton is an idiotic trumpanzee full of trumpshit? Shocking news, I know.

    Other than that, the Senate Intel hearings on Russian interference in western elections today have been awesome. Much more informative than the Sessions hearing. I was surprised how seriously and intelligently Collins, Rubio, Burr and most of the other Republicans took this.

    • RoFaWh

      They were anti-Red long before they became anti-gay.

  • Butch

    I don’t exist? Does that mean I don’t have to pay taxes any more?

  • Tom G

    I await pics of him on Grindr or some clips of him getting ass fucked.

  • shivadog

    “You turn them over to Satan” because that is the Christian thing to do.

  • bkmn
  • Elsewhere1010

    Now, now, Pastor, just because no man will give you oral sex doesn’t mean doesn’t mean homosexuals don’t exist. We exist. We just don’t like you, and you don’t deserve oral sex. See?

  • Richard Rush

    Well, there is one positive aspect to this guy’s assertions: They help even moderately rational people recognize the absurdity of TrueChristianity™. Sometimes, just one absurd assertion can destroy any credibility a person may have had on any subject.

  • Pollos Hermanos
    • nocadrummer

      Laughed your head off again?

  • Karl Dubhe

    Someone is jealous of the Muslim Iman’s.

    I bet he’s into watersports.

    • RoFaWh

      Scat. While wearing a diaper and sucking on a pacifier.

  • TampaZeke

    He also doesn’t believe that people can be intersex or XXy or XXXy or Xyy…

    • clay

      “God doesn’t make mistakes” like Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome, Poly-cystic Ovarian Syndrome, un-descended testicles, or in-utero amputations.

      • TampaZeke

        And according to the big black book of fairy tales, God created man and said it was good but later, sometime after destroying every living being on earth except for those that could fit on a boat, he decided that he made a mistake with his male creation, that the foreskin he created was suddenly disgusting and dirty and needed to be lopped off of baby boys in a voodoo ceremony.

        • clay

          That loose flesh was too soft, too feminine, needed to clean that up, butch that up.

  • Rex

    You mean to tell me I’ve been lighthearted and carefree all these years for nothing?!

  • Puckfair52

    That’s been a talking point a lot lately. If we can define you we can deny you exist.
    That was Scalia’s little song and dance along with his son the priest.
    Heteronormative history shows there sinner who sometimes were sodomites but there were no gays.

  • ByronK

    The crazies are coming out of the fucking woodwork today!!

  • penpal

    If gay is just a sex-act-sin, I sin WAAAAAY less than these people lie-sin. In fact, it means I only sin a few times each month. That’s actually really good!

  • Pollos Hermanos

    Feel free to prove your existence on his Facebook page. Rainbow likes activate!

    https://www.facebook.com/JohnMacArthurGTY/

  • Ninja0980

    Went to the Zoo with my nephews and nieces today.
    Had no idea it was batshit crazy person day today too.

    • Boreal

      Your congress critter has another challenger. Read it somewhere today.

      • Ninja0980

        Yup, our term limited mayor Stephanie Miner, who can actually give him a run for his money and expose him for the “moderate” that he really isn’t.

        • Boreal

          Tenney in 22, has two challengers so far.

  • nocadrummer

    Since they don’t consider us “human”, then it makes sense for them to say “gay people don’t exist.”

    I just want to know why they think of buttsex more than any of my gay friends do!

    • Karl Dubhe

      They’re wondering how to get the dildo out…

      • Wonder how many of them have made trips to the emergency room to have items that shouldn’t ever be used in that manner removed.

        • David Walker

          I bet some of those ERs have a large collection of gerbils, since The Truly Religious invented/believe that lie and wanted to find out for themselves. Really, guys. Stick to gloved, well-lubed fists. Gerbils deserve better than your asses.

      • Tomcat

        They must be using a Devils dildo, they are barbed.

        • iambu

          That or a lightbulb….

  • Boreal
  • Hank
  • MikeBx2

    “You know I keep conning people into thinking I’m a loving Christian, but I’m a con man. What am I gonna do? I’m a con man”.

  • Carl

    ” You don’t have a meal with them. You separate yourself from them. ”

    These people always presume I want the company they’re depriving me of in the first place.

  • netxtown

    I can’t help but admit there are days I really wish my brain would have accepted all this bullshit cray-cray stuff. I could dress up real nice, live in a fancy place, spew nonsense and crazy shit all day – and people would send me money!

    In fact – I have to wonder if I’m not nucking futs for having not believed and worked in a real job…..

  • Natty Enquirer

    He’s 78. We shall be rid of him and his regressive generation soon enough.

    • ByronK

      That’s what I keep thinking about Robertson – stubborn bastard!

      • Silver Badger

        Another Christian terrorist. He hangs on because he knows he is going to his hell to burn for all eternity.

      • Tomcat

        And 90% of CONgress.

    • Tomcat

      I will pray for his quick trip to his lord.

      • TK

        The Lord will turn him away… no room for such idiocy inside the pearly gates! Where pearl necklaces are everyday fashion. LOL

  • Xuuths

    Anyone that homophobic is clearly in the closet. Come out you homo!

    • William

      We don’t want him, barricade the door.

  • Silver Badger

    Christian terrorist Pastor John MacArthur needs to realize that his acts of terrorism will send him directly to his christian hell. This is a good thing as he deserves it.

  • Gerry Fisher

    This is gaslighting. It causes young, closeted LGBT folks to question their experiences, as if they’re looking into a mirror and seeing nothing or a distorted reflection. It’s evil.

    • marshlc

      Yes, evil. It makes the kids question their experiences, it makes the parents question their instinct to protect and support their children.

      As I said above, I had a moment of doubt, of wondering if supporting my kid was the right thing to do. For me – atheist, intelligent, well read, used to making up my own mind on ethical questions – it was only a moment.

      And I imagine a parent, loving their child as much as I love mine, but uneducated, religious, a little stupid – and how they would make a choice to follow this advice and cause so much harm and misery to their child, and to themselves.

      So much totally preventable human unhappiness, so this old man and others like him can keep raking in the bucks. Evil is too good a word for it.

  • TimJ

    This is the latest in the rightwing Evangelical talking points, being gay is simply a behavior, desire, or proclivity, and as a simple behavior, desire, or proclivity it can be disregarded as insignificant, something that can be easily “overcome” if the person just puts their faith in Jesus Christ. And they wonder why their brand of religion is losing favor.

    • -M-

      Wearing a cross, praying, and preaching are all activities. If they get to do things because it’s meaningful to them so do everybody else.

    • Cattleya1

      It is all about demonizing people into non-personhood. It will be much easier to put us into the concentration camps when we are no longer considered human.

    • RoFaWh

      Because it’s not actually a religion?

  • agcons

    Another silly old crypt-keeper with another stupid remark.

  • Benny S.

    #1 — Maybe it’s just me, but it seems that MacArthur had his dumb-ass response prepared long before the question was even asked. It’s as if he had hoped someone would ask him a “gay” question at any point during the Q&A just so he could bestow his worthy “no gay” wisdom, no matter whether or not his answer was entirely relevant to the question asked. He just needed to be certain to pull it out of his arsenal at some point before the night was over so as not to lose his opportunity.

    #2 — MacArthur’s answer to the second question was contradictory to his first answer. After having just claimed that no one is “gay”, he then talks about “a guy that runs a restaurant to serve dinner to somebody who’s gay who sits in a booth and eats the food”.

    So, I guess the conclusion is that people are “gay” only when they’re in restaurants…. at least I know I am because I always order the cured meats and cheese plate to go with my prosecco. 😉

  • Tomcat

    Go forth and spread the word, and the word is hate.
    Festering hate is growing in the so called religious peoples sad little hearts.
    If only they would just try to do as they USE TO preach and love thy neighbor they might find they are happier.

  • JWC

    Once again “I do not listen to my imaginary friends .Wht the hell should i Listen to yours A contrived distortion of Reality”

  • Dana Chilton

    I had that line of reasoning thrown at me growing up in a fundamentalist church.. thing is, if you lie once then you’re a liar. The Bible says “liars” will not inherit the kingdom of god… his logic necessitates that a person is only a liar while in the act of lying.. so if you’ve finished your lie your no longer a liar because it’s an act not a person. the whole theology of sin isn’t one most fundamentalist Christian teachers are consistent about

  • Rick

    “HI, my name is Rick and I’m a gay bank robber.”

    • Jon Doh

      Hi Rick

      • Ken M

        Dual nonexistence, how totally cool is that : )

        • Bad Tom

          If someone tries to force you to exist, you have a backup plan.

  • Jon Doh

    Being turned over to satan has got to be better than spending time near this asshole, if there was a satan.

  • Westcoast88

    That’s okay. I don’t recognize his existence either

  • Ken M

    Since we don’t exist, does that mean they will no longer talk about us? How can we be blamed if we don’t exist?

  • Secure

    They equate murder and robbing banks with having sex, that’s how fucked up many Christians are.

  • TK

    Even Jeebuz above must be shaking his head in disbelief at this assholery and warped thinking. Yet more evidence for banning mega-churches of any kind. Or at least make them pay taxes – bigly taxes. Yuuuuge taxes. The sad thing is how many people still totally buy into this bullshit thinking. All for God and grace. BARF!!!!
    Hey… I’m a Christian!! I was born this way. I have to believe the things I do and try to fuck over people and their beliefs because… hey, I’m Christian. Isn’t this the same line of thinking?? No one is really Christian.

  • clay

    “Grace on you.”
    No thank you, I’m fine on my own.

    • Adam King

      Ew, I got grace on me! What kind of detergent gets it off?

      • RoFaWh

        Try “Simple Green.”

  • TexasBoy

    “You have to alienate them. You have to separate them. You can’t condone that. It’s inconsistent with a profession of Christ an imaginary, magical friend in the sky that conveniently hates all the same people I do.

    Fixed it.

  • Sporkfighter

    “You have to alienate them. You have to separate them. You can’t condone
    that. It’s inconsistent with a profession of Christ. So you isolate
    them. You don’t have a meal with them. You separate yourself from them.
    You turn them over to Satan.”

    I’d rather alienate Christ. He never comes around to help me move furniture, he doesn’t take my trash out to the curb if I forget, he doesn’t watch my place when I’m out of town, and gay people do.

  • djcoastermark

    Y’all a bunch a sinners and liars, so send me your money and I will Goo aren tee yous all get into heevens. Uh yeah.

  • MB
    • Robincho

      Aisle, but yeah…

      • MB

        Yep, couldn’t change the copy from the meme.

        • Robincho

          I totally get it. And isle be meeting you one day, I hope…

      • nocadrummer

        Maybe they were in Hawaii.

    • Pat Padrnos

      So funny!! I needed that! They only THINK they have never a gay person.

  • Ken M

    Surely some of his children treatment demands must be a form of abuse.

  • FAEN

    Bitch please!

  • Luther Kreiger

    Delusional fanatics–I’m sorry, “devout christians whose precious religious beliefs must be respected”– prove time and time again that they are some of the least-qualified to be in any position of authority, let alone given the immense responsibility of raising a child in a way that will not horribly scar them. Utterly disgusting.

  • William

    Yay! I don’t need to worry about making dinner tonight!

  • um. i’m absolutely 100% sure I’m 100% gay. in fact, i’m as gay as the rock hard…uh…member i fellated this morning.

    • m_lp_ql_m

      I’m as gay as the rock… that Peter supposedly built his church on.

  • Michael

    LMFAO. I’ve been commenting on this YouTube video since it came out a few days ago. It has to be the dumbest video ever. I literally just finished commenting on it again before I came in here.

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      That one dude hit on you when he said you have nice glasses

  • Mike Rasor

    Well great – then Christians don’t exist. There are people who do Christian things and there are people who say they do Christian things, but his reasoning means actual Christians don’t exist. There may be certain aspects of how one is brought up that lead people in the direction of doing Christian things, but given all the harm done in this world in the name of the church we really shouldn’t let people identify this way. Let the persecutions begin (sarcasm).

  • Matt

    No good and decent person would shun their child in this way. What a horrible, disgusting (conservative) idiot. If there actually WAS a hell, there would be a special room just for people like this ass-hat. Conservatives simply have no common decency.

  • Adam King

    You know who doesn’t exist? Jesus Christ. Therefore Christians don’t exist. It’s all just a scam excuse for having failed at life. They’re retreating into an infantile magic-daddy-loves-me-not-you fantasy.

    • I believe in the words and actions of Jesus Christ. I am a happily married lesbian. I do not associate Jesus with this individual’s thinking.

      • Adam King

        Well bless your heart.

        • Helen Damnation 🍑™

          I say, if religion is helpful to you (and not hurtful to others) then by all means go for it. Just don’t tell me about it.

  • Chris Baker

    So I guess no one’s really a heterosexual either. They are just people who commit heterosexual acts? And there are no Americans, there are only people who live in America. And there are no Francophones, there are only people who choose to speak French. There are no such things as authors, there are only people who have chosen to write articles, or books for a living.

    It’s all semantics. The word “gay” is s term to describe people who are attracted to people of the same sex. A person can be gay and celibate. Because ‘gay’ describes the attraction.

    His basic flaw in his argument is that he is assuming gay behavior is sinful. He compares it to lying, cheating and stealing. (And there really are some poeple who are pathological liars–they lie even when they don’t have to).

    (Yes, I am very familiar with this guy, my mom is a fan of his).

  • mikeinftl

    Yeah we don’t exist just like your god.

  • Both anecdotally and scientifically there’s much more choice in your religious affiliation then your sexuality. This guy should fuck off.

  • leastyebejudged

    You can always tell who goes to church to sing and pray and who goes to act out and pretend that you have the “holy spirit” in ya’.

    Best thing you can do is show vids of what goes on in their churches and openly and viciously mock them for it.

  • WretchedMouse

    Heh. I’d like to disagree that i very much exist and that I plenty of evidence of said gayness…that is all.

  • helenwheels74

    maybe gay people wouldn’t feel a need to define themselves by their sexuality if these cruci-cretins didn’t make such a big stink about it?

  • andrew

    When MacArthur tells parents to “isolate” their gay children, “don’t have a meal with them,” “separate yourself from them,” He is exposing himself as an enemy of the family and a truly mutant and evil creature.

    • Very unChristlike

      • Craig Howell

        But very Christian, alas.

      • Ben in Oakland

        Actually, you’re quite wrong. That’s what Jesus said he came to do– break up families. Look it up.

  • Here is “ex-gay” activist and ex-pastor Michael Elliott (Glatze) dissing MacArthur and protestantism in general:

    https://www.christianforums.com/threads/michael-glatze-evangelical-christianity-dispensationalism-and-the-rapture-are-heresies.8000027/

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    On the irony of this is just too much. Honey, your God can’t even show his sorry ass, but I’m standing right here…and you seriously just said I don’t exist.

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  • JT

    Megachurch Pastor: Gay People Do Not Exist

    Good. Then you can just shut the fuck up about us.

  • canoebum

    “You have to alienate them. You have to separate them. You can’t condone
    that. It’s inconsistent with a profession of Christ. So you isolate
    them. You don’t have a meal with them. You separate yourself from them.
    You turn them over to Satan.”

    This is the attitude that drives gay teens (and we’ve seen some as young as eleven), to kill themselves. As far as I’m concerned, he’s a murderer. Christianity is a death cult; just look at what they worship, a dead guy on a cross. That’s not a celebration of life and all its wonders, it’s the glorification of death as a means of salvation.

    • Christianity has to be known separately from Christ.

  • Regan DuCasse

    I always say that blood is thicker than ANY holy book!
    At the end of the day, that book will NOT love you, nor hold you when you’re sick or in need of affection, nor be as warm to the touch as the hand of your child.
    If you threw that book into a fire, if you tore it’s pages, you will NOT hurt it, as much as if you rejected your child for being gay.

    We as human beings are diverse, are unique, can do so much and ever were so much more than our respective orientations. That we’d be different ones, and are stronger together than apart, is no surprise.
    Our immense ways we are different is a GIFT from God.
    Why religious people keep forcing the issue of being the same, thinking the same, LOOKING the same, is more in defiance of what life is to be with each other.
    That gay people love at all, is something that would never be ‘against’ anything good and important.
    Clearly this fearful, little hearted man can’t learn that lesson.

    • Ben in Oakland

      Hi regan. How are you doing? Haven’t seen you Around in a while.

      • Regan DuCasse

        Hey!!! I’ve missed you!!! I’m good, thanks. Working on another career. Ridiculous how many you have to have these days!

        How are YOU?

        • Ben in Oakland

          Other than about a month that began about three months ago, I’ve been pretty good.that. That was the worst month of my life– more pain than I could imagine. I came through, but I’m not quite the man I was. Other than that, I’m enjoying retirement, enjoying not working, and generally enjoying life.

          But this getting old shit is killing me!

  • iambu

    Wait…I’m confused…so if your kid is gay, you send them to the Catholics…?

  • Helen Damnation 🍑™

    I’d rather be with Satan than to spend eternity with this asshole.

  • Vinny DeFeo

    Looney tunes – but I bet the money just rolls in and piles up.

  • AaronD12

    This pastor is a closet case. If you think being straight means to repress your feelings toward men, you’re probably gay! Just deal with it and suck a dick.

  • Hanwi
  • Mike Knife

    That’s funny, they say the same thing about his god.

  • Rick James Brown

    You know who “doesn’t exist?” God, Jesus, The Easter Bunny, The Tooth Fairy…

  • KQCA

    It’s just a matter of time and this one’s closet door will blow open…just like ALL the bigots before him. It’s become so commonplace, it’s boring.

  • jonfromcalifornia

    Another brain dead Evangelical “pastor” preaching hate from stupidity. The number of gullible people who fall for these Evangelical conmen is just staggering.

  • TimJ

    Despite their claims of “speaking truth in love” and wanting to help gay people see the light, all of these right-wing Evangelicals are basically doing the same thing: They are talking to their like minded flock, simply reinforcing their beliefs and giving them fake Biblical justification for their bigotry, making them feel better about themselves.

    • Gianni

      And getting paid well enough for it to usually live high off the hog.

  • Gianni

    This is a new one on me. It’s a novel explanation on a subject that he clearly knows nothing about. Of course, that doesn’t matter. He’s speaking to a herd of nincompoops who actually give him money just to hear this bullshit.

  • JCF

    We not only exist…

    …we operate heavy machinery!

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  • Ben in Oakland

    Ummmm honey? You, your Jesus, and your god don’t exist.

  • Ogre Magi

    christians are such jerks