Four Republican Senators Oppose Trumpcare Bill Because It Doesn’t Fully Repeal Obamacare [VIDEO]

CNN reports:

Four conservative Republican senators announced Thursday that they opposed the current version of GOP Senate leadership’s health care bill as written. Sens. Rand Paul of Kentucky, Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, Ted Cruz of Texas and Mike Lee of Utah said in a joint statement they’re “not ready to vote for this bill.”

“Currently, for a variety of reasons, we are not ready to vote for this bill, but we are open to negotiation and obtaining more information before it is brought to the floor,” the senators said. “There are provisions in this draft that represent an improvement to our current health care system, but it does not appear this draft as written will accomplish the most important promise that we made to Americans: to repeal Obamacare and lower their health care costs.”

Republicans can only lose two members of their 52-senator caucus in order to pass their proposal to repeal and replace Obamacare. In a 50-50 outcome, Vice President Mike Pence would provide the tie-breaking vote. A number of other GOP senators are avoiding outright supporting the new health care bill unveiled by Republican leaders Thursday morning — saying they need more time to read the fine print before taking a stand.

  • clay

    “Anything you repeal, I repeal better!”

  • Lazycrockett

    Paul won’t support a health care bill unless it allows hunting the poor.

    • clay

      Afterall, he’s a doctor.

      • safari

        So is Ben Carson.

    • metrored

      He’ll probably get that provision. Then all “moderate” Republicans will fall in line.

  • andrew

    The bill is not nearly draconian enough for these four extreme conservative Republicans.

  • WretchedMouse

    Uh…yay? So they won’t vote yes then?

    • Tomcat

      They are just holding out for more shit.

      • WretchedMouse

        Yeah. I was hoping they’d come to their senses, but then I started to snicker.

  • Tomcat

    GOP rape and pillage.

    • BearEyes

      and reverse Robin Hood plunder

  • BearEyes

    Not evil enough.
    So noted. Scumbags.

  • IAMBOWLINGGREEN
    • Tomcat

      Tell a lie often enough and republicans will believe it.

      • glass

        Tell a lie ONCE, and republicans will believe it. Critical thinking is not an option.

    • Steverino

      And of course it is projection. The truth, of course, is millions of people will lose their health coverage under Trumpcare.

    • Cuberly

      There sure seems to be a lot of fake fairly new twitter accounts tweeting how “libs” are being hysterical, that nobody would be denied care.

      The obtuse 1/2 truth machine appears to have spun up.

      • Stephen Elliot Phillips

        Macedonians need jobs too

        • safari

          And reports are coming that there is much job loss as Facebook starts to reign in their fake news mills.

      • Kate

        Care should be a state matter, not a federal matter. The provinces administer a single-payer system here in Canada, and it works much better than the states for many people.

        Good insurance in the US is still better, but it’s a lot more expensive, too.

    • Kate

      This is where the states need to step up. It was never supposed to be the government’s responsibility, and tax cuts for the wealthy mean that the states can raise their taxes without increasing the tax burden (and the loss in economic activity that comes with it).

      Arizona (for example) has a tax rate between 2.59 and 4.54%. These tax cuts would let them nearly double what they charge high-income taxpayers. That would cover a lot of healthcare, and actually follow the tenth amendment.

      People should be pressuring the states to deal with healthcare, because it was never constitutionally supposed to belong to the federal government.

  • Jonathan Smith

    JESUS CHRIST ON A CRUTCH it DOES NOT FUCK enough people, so i wont vote for it?

    • Gay Fordham Prep Grad

      Don’t worry, they will vote for it, the “Leadership” will make a minor change, like revise the typeface from Helvetica to Times New Roman, and they will say their concerns have been met and fall into line, just like in the House. The ACA will be gone by mid July.

      • Tomcat

        Not if the House refuses to agree to the Senate bill it won’t.

        • Gay Fordham Prep Grad

          you are confusing Republicans with Democrats. When it’s crunch time they all come around…not like the Dems, which are more akin to herding cats.

          • Vista-Cruiser

            For someone who has just graduated from prep school, you’ve figured things out pretty fast.

      • Todd Allis

        Bet they’ll use Comic Sans.

      • Rambie

        It’s called political theater

    • Kate

      It’d be hard to do worse than ObamaCare. Let’s limit insurance companies to making 15% profits, then hope that the CEOs don’t figure out that it means every dollar they save costs them 15 cents in profits, and every dollar they waste makes them 15 cents in profits.

      Or, tax people who didn’t get insurance because it’s too expensive. Surely that’s the way to make things better?

      Or, grant a goverment monopoly (in the form of the marketplace) to insurance companies, and hope they don’t figure out that they make the most profit if they slice up the country, leaving only one or two insurers in each state that people have to go to if they want the subsidies, leaving them free to raise the rates.

      People who were poor enough had medicaid, the rich can handle their own. ObamaCare screwed the people who weren’t poor enough for the subsidies – now we have lower coverage, at a higher price, with larger deductibles. My siblings have finally been able to get healthcare this year, because the babies they had and the health conditions finally blew through enough money that their insurance actually covers something, instead of just being an expensive “discount” program. They both went in debt to do it, of course, but they can finally justify going to see a doctor.

      Meanwhile, pre-ObamaCare, I was able to get small business health insurance that covered nearly everything, with small co-pays. Cost a little over $300/family/month for me, and my family (they were employees of the family business). Why? Because I was in New Jersey, and New Jersey had shall-issue insurance running through their Non-Profit health insurer.

      Of course, when ObamaCare came along those plans went out the window, and our costs more than doubled while the plans covered less. Thanks, Obama!

      ObamaCare was a turd that included a few handouts to the poor and people with pre-existing conditions, while neglecting the actual problems that led to healthcare being so much more in the US than in civilized countries. It was written by and funded by the pharma companies, and literally forces people to do business with for-profit, private companies or the government will come in and punish you.

      It set back real change for decades, and should never have passed in the first place. If it dies, the country should be sick enough of Trump in 2024 that we might get some actual progress towards single-payer with the next president.

      • agcons

        Oh, sweet Jesus.

  • safari
  • Pollos Hermanos
    • Tomcat

      Only the GOP would even try to herd cats.

  • Treant

    (rolls eyes) Nice attempt at a chess move, it’s too bad we’re playing Monopoly and your move is obvious.

    • safari

      I … have never played Monopoly by the real rules.

      • Jonathan Smith

        Monopoly has rules?

  • The_Wretched

    I can’t imagine these assholes will stop the passage. They are horrible people.

    • They are terrible, awful, mean, and cruel meat sacks.

  • GayOldLady

    I was wondering how long it would take Republicans to remember that their pledge was never to replace, only to repeal. They want to deliver us all back into the hands of For Profit Medicine that kneels at the feet of Big Pharma, Big Insurance. Soon none of us will have healthcare.

    • olandp

      Big Pharma and Big Insurance love Obamacare more suckers er… customers and more profits!

      • GayOldLady

        Actually, United Healthcare and BCBS have been pulling out of State markets where they can’t make enough of a killing. If health insurance companies were taken out of the equation and claims administered and fees negotiated by CMS, the cost of healthcare would drop dramatically. Big Pharma needs to be subjected to the same price controls they face in countries with SPUHC. Too many people making mega bucks off the health needs of others.

        • Kate

          … “where they can’t make enough of a killing”

          That’s just being a monopoly. It’s much more profitable for them to each pick counties and charge what they want, then for them to share markets and compete. Price fixing is too easy to spot, and people will choose the cheaper plans on the marketplace (that’s the point).

          So, if you ensure there’s only one plan on the marketplace, you can charge what you want, and you haven’t technically broken the law.

    • Tor

      I keep wondering if many of us have not coverage, or have substandard coverage, how is that a win for the BigPharma and BigHospital?? Don’t hey need patients able to buy their goods? The win for BigInsurance is obvious.

    • Henry Auvil

      If I, (like an uninsured friend of mine did ten years ago), get a bill in the mail for $250,000 for their heart valve replacement (marked “due upon receipt”), I’ll just forward it to Mitch McConnell.

    • Kate

      ObamaCare was made to drive everyone into the hands of For Profit Medicine – the same people who wrote, funded and lobbied for it. Big Pharma, in particular, salivated at the concept of everyone having prescription coverage.

      The “affordable” care act was the biggest gift they could have asked for – people literally have to do business with them, or the government will fine them. People need the marketplace for subsidies, and they have figured out that means that they can divide up the country like a pie, which is why 10% of the states have only a single marketplace insurer.

      Even if you’re in a state with multiple providers, your county can still be divied up. 1/3 of the counties have only a single ObamaCare insurer.

      http://time.com/money/4470574/obamacare-providers-2017/

      We know that government granted monopolies are great for driving down costs, right? That’s why healthcare has gotten so much more expensive and the coverage worse, unless you’re poor enough to get the subsidies?

  • Paula

    All republicans have punchable faces. My daughter says its in their DNA.

  • wds
    • clay

      They’re pissed that it will be limited to their states granted waivers from the Trump regime, when they want to impose it on everyone.

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    • Rambie

      Why am I thinking this is all political theater?

      1- At best, it’s just cover for their reelection campaigns to say they tried.

      2- Grandstanding. McTurtle and team know this is as “good” as it’ll get. It’s a mix of #1, in that it’ll look good in their campaign ads, but also bit of #3 in trying to keep any moderates from wanting concessions they really wouldn’t want.

      3- At worst; This has been worked out and they’ll get a concession in a few days knowing that McTurtle has/will twist enough “moderate” arms to get it passed anyway.

      The best we can hope for is to get enough moderate Republicans to stand against it and *shivers* try to get Shitgibbon to realize how bad the bill is and talk against it.

      • Acronym Jim

        After the ADAPT arrests outside McConnel’s office, I think some Republicans may be rethinking that strategy.

        If this passes, I hope every Democratic 2018 campaign nationwide uses that footage in their ads.

        • Rambie

          You have more faith in Republicans than I do.

  • Kevin Perez

    Don’t believe it. They are going to vote for it.

  • Tomcat

    Don’t worry republicans if you failed to screw someone today.
    There is always tomorrow.

  • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

    Poor snowflake needs a hug for destroying your life.

    https://twitter.com/CobaltBomb/status/877995522128175106

  • Jefe5084

    But….but….but…Ted Cruz and Mike Lee are part of the 13 Senators of the Apocalypse Committee that drafted it.

  • olandp

    I don’t care why, as long as they don’t vote for it. Looks to me this is a convenient excuse to not repeal because that would be disaster for them.

  • Tomcat

    Yeah, it is a red herring. Keep us from trying to get others to vote against it.
    Only possible republican defections are Capito,Cassidy,Collins, Heller, Murkowski and portman. Of them only Collins is a hopeful no voter. And who knows what Democrat might be BOUGHT.

    • grada3784

      The guy in WV comes to mind.

  • bambinoitaliano

    There’s no limit to their extremism. Why not pass a bill to kill off the sick? They can reclaim the death panel title.

    • ultragreen

      That’s next.

  • bkmn

    I knew as soon as I saw the lowlights of the bill this morning that there would be some diehard assholes (Republican, of course) that would feel this bill was Obamacare Light. I hope this will be enough to derail the fucking bill.

  • Jim Maloney

    This is stagecraft. A charade ‘opposition’.

  • Cuberly

    The GOP doesn’t care what polls are going to say. Hell they’re ignoring Trump’s promise to not touch medicare.

    https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/status/877922278192758784

    • Todd20036

      So? Republicans will still vote republican

      • Cuberly

        Yep.

    • zhera

      I’m more surprised that 4% of Dems think the bill is a good idea. WTF?

      • Cuberly

        Well, I have seen some purity-bros posting how we’re stupid for being upset at the AHCA. Now, supposedly, is the perfect time to push for single-payer.

        • Kate

          The time for that push will be 2024.

    • Henry Auvil

      The current GOP reminds me of the Jim Jones/Jonestown cult. So slavishly devoted to their leader(s) they’ll drink strychnine-laced KoolAid just to toe the party line.

    • Kate

      Welcome to the same problem Obama had with his hope and change. Congress gives you bills that force you to choose between your promises, and you can veto it and get nothing, or settle for something.

      Look how far he got with gun control, and how horrible ObamaCare was.

      • Ernest Endevor

        The ACA isn’t horrible. Depending on what state you live in it works extremely well. As the ex-president said on its signing, it is the first step in reforming INSURANCE, i.e. how health care is paid for. Unlike the great majority of Americans who have health insurance, I bought my own. The exchange in NY state is easy to use and I saved about $3,000. Before the ACA I was paying close to $11,000. I got a very good policy, kept al of my doctors, and there was NO PROBLEM. Is it single-payer? No. Is it what we need and deserve? No. But it most certainly isn’t horrible.

        For the rest I would agree.

        • Kate

          “Unlike the great majority of Americans who have health insurance, I bought my own.”

          We were in that boat for many years. I ended up incorporating a small business in order to be able to get my family insurance (pre-existing conditions after coverage was lost). Then we lost it again when ObamaCare came around – sure, our pre-existing conditions were covered, but we made too little to afford insurance, and too much for the subsidies.

          “As the ex-president said on its signing, it is the first step in reforming INSURANCE, i.e. how health care is paid for.”

          It wasn’t, though. It was the first step in stopping actual health insurance reform, bought and paid for by the pharma companies. It killed any chance of actual improvements, and created some really perverse incentives.

          For starters, limiting insurance companies to 15% profits. Like rent control, it sounds decent on paper, but it’s utterly retarded. If a company is at the 15% profit point, every dollar they save on costs is 15 cents out of their profits, and every dollar they waste is 15 cents more. $80 aspirin? Why not – it’s $12 more in their pockets.

          Forcing individuals to do business with companies, but not companies to do business with individuals? Whoever came up with that should be shot.

          1/3 of the counties have only a single insurer left on the exchange, which can charge whatever they can justify.

          http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/mar/13/donald-trump/donald-trump-one-third-counties-have-only-one-insu/

          This is one place where a marketplace absolutely could help – tell companies that if they want to sell insurance, they sell insurance based on people, not where they live. Let them price the plan, then let anyone in the country sign up for them who meets the requirements.

          The federal government has no business in healthcare, but at least it would be something, so the Republicans certainly won’t do it, even if Trump would sign it.

          • Ernest Endevor

            I don’t at all agree with your characterization of the ACA. I bought insurance under the ‘free market’ and know what that means in the US: monopolies and price inflation. I now use Medicare which is much less user-friendly than the ACA and costs much more than it should. Of course the real culprit is the monetization of our health care. It’s not at all unusual in NYC for top specialists to refuse any kind of insurance, demanding full out-of-pocket payment from the patient in either cash or cheque: they don’t even take credit cards. Plus we now have agencies one can hire that will jump the line and get you the top doctors in any locality for a yearly fee. That’s a free market in operation and I hardly think you’d want that.

            The health insurance ‘industry’ is so well-entrenched, so pervasive, and so profitable for so many people that, like the for-profit anti-LGBT companies, it would take a war or some other catastrophe to really budge it. It would also throw a lot of people out of work.

          • Kate

            “I bought insurance under the ‘free market’ and know what that means in the US: monopolies and price inflation.”

            And ObamaCare has meant more monopolies, and even more price inflation. It was the wrong solution to the wrong problem, and let congress go “that’s good enough, we’re done here” while they take their checks from the pharma companies to the bank.

            “Of course the real culprit is the monetization of our health care.”

            Indeed. New Jersey, for all it’s flaws, did a wonderful thing with Horizon BCBS. It’s non-profit. It doesn’t have a single shareholder. If they do something that would turn a “profit”, it goes right back into care or keeping premiums low.

            Simple, easy, legal, doesn’t require anyone to do business with them. There should be one in every state, with a board that’s compensated based on how well they do their job of insuring said state.

            “Plus we now have agencies one can hire that will jump the line and get you the top doctors in any locality for a yearly fee. That’s a free market in operation and I hardly think you’d want that.”

            I moved to Canada. Insurance was part of it, the rest was my marriage not being recognized. Both were about protecting my family. I’ve been waiting since January for a family doctor, there’s a shortage because the government tries to tell doctors how much they can earn. Since the market price is by definition where supply meets demand, increasing demand (by making it universal), and decreasing supply (by limiting doctors wages) means we get shortages.

            For emergencies, they get you in immediately. When I was driven through a glass window, I went to the hospital, and was treated without delay. Unfortunately, they don’t cover dental, or mental health, or ingrown toenails, or a number of other things all my plans in the states did.

            When I visit my relatives in the states, I pay out of pocket to go to the clinic, because it’s cheaper to pay $90 for the visit than it is to get the generics here in Canada, because we don’t have Wal-Mart driving the price of generics down to $10/90 days. Our prescription medication that’s not generic is often a bit cheaper, but generics are horribly expensive.

            I want to see something in the middle of the two systems – a strong public option (which limits how much of an ass the insurance companies can be), that covers everyone, and a private market that lets people pay for non-essential coverage, private rooms, faster access, etc.

            Offer doctors a choice like some countries do – we forgive your student loans if you come work for the government for a few years. Increase the supply of doctors, the supply of insurance (with actual competition), and so on, and the prices will drop, and we won’t be fining people who decided to put food on the table instead of getting insurance they couldn’t afford.

          • friendlynerd

            I really wouldn’t bother with this person. She flounces from website to website to talk about state’s rights and how the government shouldn’t be responsible for anything. Check her commenting history…it’s nothing but trashing the ACA.

          • Ernest Endevor

            I got that. Thanks for the headsup.

        • Kate

          “The exchange in NY state is easy to use and I saved about $3,000”

          How much did you have to increase your deductible or cut your care to get it? The insurers were a bit optimistic in their pricing, but they are looking to rectify that in 2018 with a 17% rate hike next year for NY.

          http://hotair.com/archives/2017/06/08/new-york-obamacare-insurers-request-16-6-rate-increase-2018/

        • Kate

          I hope you aren’t with HealthNow New York. They are requesting a 47% rate increase.

          https://myportal.dfs.ny.gov/web/prior-approval/summary-of-2018-requested-rate-actions

  • billbear1961

    murderers

  • bambinoitaliano

    Ted Cruz kiss Trump’s ass even after the shit gibbon called his wife ugly and his father a murderer. He does not possess an ounce of dignity. So what is a few millions of Americans death after the repeal of the health care. He can sink lower than any species.

    • Tiger Quinn

      I hope Heidi spends the rest of her life getting plowed mightily by whatever beefcake Ted’s money can afford.

  • JWC

    with this new health care this is where none of us want to be but probably will https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/09451114b5b3976381af5233c2d7ec4a4b38e9899e130fe2815c73a9ac9ba26e.jpg

    • safari

      I like her. I really want to believe she has food, shelter, security, and happiness. I doubt it but … I want to believe.

  • zhera

    Vile creatures with power. Fuck it all.

    • billbear1961

      It remains to be seen how many will just allow themselves to be led (or abandoned) to the slaughter, will just crawl off into corners and DIE, and how many of their neighbours won’t lift a FINGER to stop it, just because these gangsters won (?) an election, an election in what is SUPPOSED to be a modern, civilized democracy.

      Large and sustained protests CAN stop this evil, but I have little faith in the American people’s willingness to FIGHT for ANYTHING.

      It cannot wait until the midterms. Unless there’s a strong campaign to FINALLY expose and defang the right-wing propaganda machine (and there is NO evidence such a campaign is even being PREPARED, let alone enacted, despite all the TERRIBLE damage the right’s relentless propaganda has done to the body politic), THAT highly effective LIE machine and further interference (hacking and suppression) in an election process without a paper trail will save the GOP from any substantial retribution for their vicious CRIMES.

      People in this country are like SHEEP: tell them that if the majority vote for baldfaced fascism (and they have NOT, btw), that means that its OBVIOUS lies and irrational, VICIOUS cruelties must be bowed down to in a FREE society, that fascists may–if they win an election and control all the levers of power–ignore or pervert the law or place themselves ABOVE the law, and do ANYTHING they wish to WHOMEVER they please, and MANY will meekly accept it, naively believing all can be put right in future HONEST elections (that the fascists, their power consolidated, will NEVER allow AGAIN).

      Our institutions are failing us, Zhera. Decent people have NO leadership. MOST in the corporate press and the corporate-controlled Democratic party will offer only TOKEN resistance–theatre–to the fascist takeover of this country. They will continue to PRETEND the GOP is not a neo-FASCIST party of bigots, liars, thieves and TRAITORS, who serve NO ONE but THEMSELVES and their rich MASTERS.

      Let what has happened in the U.S. serve as a WARNING to Norway: if a fascist propaganda machine arises in your MSM and a major (or even minor) political party begins to reject the basic tenets of modern democracy and the very concept of objective facts, FIGHT them IMMEDIATELY, TOOTH AND NAIL. Do not let their evil spread like a CANCER for a QUARTER of a CENTURY, brainwashing HALF your population, virtually unchallenged by anyone except COMEDIANS, as Americans have let it spread in their DOOMED democracy!!

    • Vista-Cruiser

      Our side handed them their power on a silver platter when we sat out the elections of 2010, 2014, and 2016.

  • Talisman

    Ass. Holes.

  • Tiger Quinn

    That thing is completely evil, and it’s not evil enough for them. Wow.

  • safari

    Can we just put them on a wooden ship and leave them in the middle of the Pacific to become pirates?

    • Talisman

      They are already thieves and liars.

    • JWC

      I can not really beliieve “average Joe American ” is just gonna sit on his hands and take in the teeth like this Where in the hell is all the Flag wavin fireworks blastin devil may care attitude of Americana

      • Talisman

        Watching Duck Dynasty.

      • Kate

        What are you going to do? The alternative was Hillary Clinton, and the majority of Trump voters felt that she cared less than Trump, and is an evil, shrill woman.

        So, you’re going to get fucked no matter what you do, but at least this way there’s a chance of overturning Roe v. Wade (particularly if the Kennedy retirement rumours are true), and taxes go down a little bit.

        • JWC

          Kate do you honestly believe Hillary would have been worse in the WH than Trump She would not have invited the Russians in She would have passed some legislation She is aware how Washington works

          • Kate

            “Kate do you honestly believe Hillary would have been worse in the WH than Trump”

            Absolutely. I cringe when I consider what SCOTUS would do if Hillary had a chance to replace Scalia with someone very left. For the first time in decades, we have a chance to finally fix the abortion that is Roe v. Wade, and start actually following the tenth and second amendments.

            “She would not have invited the Russians in”

            Remember when Romney talked about Russia being a threat. To quote a certain former president Obama,

            “Gov. Romney, I’m glad you recognize al-Qaida is a threat, because a few months ago when you were asked what is the biggest geopolitical group facing America, you said Russia, not al-Qaida. You said Russia. And the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back. Because the Cold War has been over for 20 years. But Governor, when it comes to our foreign policy, you seem to want to import the foreign policies of the 1980s”

            Russia wanted Trump. That’s not a surprise, given that Hillary is an asshole, and Trump has little desire to continue the cold war. If Russia wants to conquer Ukraine, that really shouldn’t be the US’s problem.

            We’ve had enough war, enough death, enough debt. We should spend our tax dollars on healthcare, not funding bombs to drop on brown people so that some 1%ers get richer. Trump isn’t going to institute a no-fly zone, isn’t going to aggravate Russia, and wants to have good relations. That’s a good thing.

            “She would have passed some legislation She is aware how Washington works”

            Which is why the states made sure she didn’t get elected. She ran on a platform of “4 more years of Obama”, and the country went “no thanks, 8 was more than enough.”

            Do you like the legislation that Trump wants to push? If not, why complain about him doing it poorly?

          • JWC

            you are entitled to your opinions as I am to mine

    • BobSF_94117

      Don’t need a wooden ship. They can sit on the giant swirling pile of plastic out there.

  • MassageBear

    Don’t think of it as the poor havin’ insurance taken away. Think of it as the GOP tryin’ to suppress the poor vote by letting them die.

    The GOP’s “Letting Grandma Die/WEALTHcare Bill for the Friggin’ Rich”
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4ac2ad9572994cb18a0c4f32d39b32e459d3e350cc3fdef302bf60c40edd67f1.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/927fe37d4c6288698ad99281828a9b09d26bc44cffcb02b6ce5af4bc0f47fbed.jpg

    • safari

      – Gotta be at the gym in 8 minutes

    • Henry Auvil

      I love how the great political reporter Charles P. Pierce never mentions the name of Paul Ryan without qualifying it with “the zombie-eyed granny-starver from the state of Wisconsin.”

      • safari

        The free market will make those grannies learn that starving is communist.

        Also, the more I come into contact with people native to Wisconsin, the more I worry about humanity. Seriously.

    • Kate

      Or, think of it as the federal government getting out of something they have no business being in.

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    Four GOP senators oppose the AHCA for a variety of reasons.
    Ted Cruz: I’m holding out for a new heart.
    Johnson: I’m holding out for Johnson pills.
    Mike Lee: I’m holding out for my plan that taxes the poorest to pay for the 1%’s Health Care.
    Ron Paul: I’m holding out for my new program MediWig.

    • JWC

      phony bastards

  • The real pressure needs to be on Lisa Murkowski (AK), Susan Collins (ME), Heller (NV), Flake (AZ). They’re the ones who might actually hold out to moderate the bill or force hearings. Heller and Flake are the most vulnerable GOP Senators up for re-election. Collins and Murkowski have been the lone GOP holdouts on some other votes. If they can at least be persuaded to insist on hearings, that may out enough sunlight on this to kill it.

  • -M-

    The only objection to this bill from the Republican side are four grandstanding attention whores complaining that it’s not evil and destructive enough.

  • Henry Auvil

    Those are four men I wouldn’t let touch me, even with a ten foot pole.

    • i wouldn’t swim in a pool they had sat next to.

  • Sam_Handwich
    • safari

      Such pride in accomplishment.

    • Refugay

      These fuckers need to be hounded and held accountable at every possible opportunity. Their lives need to be made a living hell for what they are doing.

      • M Jackson

        Yes, yes, yes, until the day they die.

    • Hank

      That took place in DCA/Washington National Airport. Spent years flying out and into it, when I lived in DC.

  • geoffalnutt

    It’s bullshit. They’ll cave at the last minute. They are, after all, Repiglicon. Party before…anything.

  • Karl Dubhe

    I’ve always feared that there was an afterlife. Not the one of the bible, or the other religions, but one where the people who you’ve harmed would have the ability to exact revenge.

    I don’t think there is one, but that’s a shame. Really.

    • Tomcat

      What is even worst is the way some people make life rotten for others knowing there is no other life after this one.
      Everyone deserves to have the best life they can manage without assholes making it impossible.

      • Tomcat

        I strongly believe it is the belief in a afterlife that make some people miserable to others.

  • MikeBx2

    When Trump made a joke about wind energy in his speech in IA last night, they laughed and cheered. Today they realize it was a put down of their state. Imbeciles.
    https://twitter.com/AP/status/878046037989969920

    • thats our Chump-in-Chief for you, making friends where ever he goes.

    • Kruhn

      Silly Iowans, Trump never liked you. He doesn’t care for you.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      It’s infuriating that they always get pissed at US for pointing out that the GOP and their billionaire cronies are fucking with them.

  • Westcoast88

    The ACA was a republican idea in the first place, and the Republicans in Congress had input into its passing. But because it’s known as OBAMAcare, every bit of it must go.

    • The irony is that they’re the ones who christened it “Obamacare” — as a negative.

  • Bryan

    Holy fucking hell, they’re opposing it because it’s STILL not evil enough for them? These fucking assholes.

  • Who do they hate the most? The black fella? The poor? Democrats? The sick? Whomever they hate, its clear who they love most, the rich.

    • MassageBear

      The CEO Sweetener is in the Senate bill! Can you believe this? It allows insurance companies to deduct executive salaries >$500k! pic.twitter.com/3a7fXIcQHl— Topher Spiro (@TopherSpiro) June 22, 2017

      • Holy Fuck! It must be nice to have bill writers looking out for ones bottom line. Now, if they only cared that much for: children, the elderly, the poor, the middle class and those who need health insurance.

    • Ernest Endevor

      And that’s what it’s all about.

  • ultragreen

    If it is just these 4 ultra right-wing Senators who are opposing it on the GOP side, that means about 20% of the US population can kiss their health care coverage good-bye.

    • I suspect they’ll get an amendment and come around. Cruz can’t head into a primary next May as the senator that prevented Congress from repealing Obamacare. He’d have a half dozen primary challengers if he did.

      • Jonathan Smith

        Yeah. Still not seeing the problem there

      • Refugay

        This is a stunt-they’re just posturing. The same shit happened in congress. They will not vote against The Party.

        • Their senate majority is narrow. Three defectors means they don’t have the 50 votes (with Pence casting the deciding vote). So this might just be a stalling tactic while they get a few holdouts on board. Or this could just be Cruz and Rand being assholes. Everyone hates Cruz. I think his Republican colleagues hate him even more than his Democratic ones.

  • Well he is right that this isn’t going to lower premiums. Nothing Republicans propose is going to and I’m not sure Democrats can accomplish that either without a bill forcing insurers to lower premiums (which also isn’t going to happen). But for now these four may keep this shitty bill from passing so it stalls this for now. (I suspect they’re hoping to make this a midterm issue.)

  • KarenAtFOH

    North Korea-grade cruelty.

  • Hanwi

    Ted Cruz has literally the most smug punchable face in the entire world.

  • TheManicMechanic

    Holding out because it isn’t ugly enough.

  • Randy503

    “A number of other GOP senators are avoiding outright supporting the new health care bill unveiled by Republican leaders Thursday morning — saying they need more time to read the fine print before taking a stand.”

    Obviously hoping that the “fine print” will somehow completely contradict the “big print” in front of their eyes.

  • teedofftaxpayer

    I guess the extreme right doesn’t think it screws enough people.

  • Kruhn

    Yeah, because what they want is to have everyone die at 50 if they make less than $250,000 a year.

    • MassageBear

      Photos of disabled protesters being arrested angered me & are resonating around the world. Do NOT cut services. Nothing about us without us! pic.twitter.com/UFpS3iuwk1— Marlee Matlin (@MarleeMatlin) June 23, 2017

  • Hue-Man

    Is Rand Paul demanding that all medical facilities immediately convert to coal?

  • MassageBear
  • TCinBerkeley

    The Legion of Dumb everyone!

    With collective intelligence of a single rattlesnake, the LoD is out to make life as miserable as possible for everyone everywhere, all according to the Gospel of Rufus. Authored by Judas’ cousin who met Jesus once at the Whole Foods in Bethlehem and they talked about which automatic weapon is God’s favorite. Totally happened. Little known gospel. Totally worth a read.

  • SnowFlake

    Puhleeze! Cruz will slither back to vote for whatever Trump tells him to vote for..

  • “. . . saying they need more time to read the fine print before taking a stand.”

    That’s assuming there is fine print.

  • boatboy_srq

    It’s seriously unreal when the GOTea can’t get uniformly behind a punitive “healthcare” proposal because it isn’t punitive enough.

  • joe ho

    The bill will get 50 GOP votes + Pence to pass. Collins & Murkowski will be allowed to vote NO. GOP won’t sacrifice more senators than it needs.

  • Gerry Fisher

    The primary problem with repealing Obamacare, you douches, is that, despite 7 years of whining, you have failed to come up with an alternative that works in terms of actually providing healthcare and reducing financial drain. I suppose you could propose single payer, medicare for all (not holding my breath).