ALABAMA: Removing Confederate Monuments Illegal Under New Law, SPLC Blasts It As White Supremacy

Law News reports:

It is called the Alabama Memorial Preservation Act of 2017. Signed this week by Gov. Kay Ivey, a Republican, it clamps down how whether people can move or change monuments in the state. No mention of the Confederacy is made in the law, but critics say it is meant to help glorify the South’s problematic past.

This comes amidst tense standoffs over the removal of Civil War-era monuments. Louisiana recently moved four, but protesters, including one guy screaming the N-word at a black counter-protest, came out against the move. A Mississippi lawmaker recently said Louisiana leaders “should be lynched” if they came after his state’s monuments. Similar controversies have sprouted up in Kentucky and Virginia.

As for Alabama’s new bill, it specifically protects monuments at least 40 years old. No moving, removing, alteration, name changing, or “other disturbance of any architecturally significant building, memorial building, memorial street, or monument located on public property.”

The SPLC reacts:

The Alabama Memorial Preservation Act of 2017 is not about preserving our state’s history, but about protecting Confederate monuments that celebrate white supremacy and a time in which an entire race was enslaved and oppressed. That is evidenced by its origin, as it was first introduced after the former governor ordered removal of Confederate flags from the State Capitol.

These racist symbols have no place on government property, where they counter our nation’s core principle to ensure liberty and justice for all. Other states and municipalities are removing these monuments from public property and placing them in museums, where people can learn the full history of slavery, the Civil War and the Confederacy. That’s where they belong. By signing this bill, Gov. Kay Ivey indicates that lauding white supremacy is more important than demonstrating equality for all Alabamians.

  • PickyPecker
  • Max_1

    Celebrating treason one Southern State at a time…
    … Gotta protect it at all costs, so it seems.

  • Jonathan Smith
    • Oh’behr in Minnesota

      Looks like a dick in a holey condom.

  • PickyPecker
  • Rex

    Gov. Kay was there when they were erected.

  • Paula

    It would sure be a shame to see someone with a backhoe tear a couple of these monuments down in the middle of the night. I’m just sayin’.

  • PickyPecker
  • PickyPecker
  • Kelly Lape

    If you have to oppress someone in order to feel good about your “heritage” your heritage isn’t worth preserving.

  • Michael R

    It was nice of her to take her hood of for the photo .

    • Robincho

      This she-goat sure signs a lot of shit. You’d think that with her hoof, she’d have more trouble grasping the pen…

  • Smokey

    “My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
    Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!”
    Nothing beside remains: round the decay
    Of that colossal wreck,

  • Joseph Miceli

    I don’t often say this, but I am PROUD of my City and my Mayor for not bowing to inbred country bumpkins in our state legislature here in Louisiana. New Orleans removed four monuments set up by the “White League” during reconstruction. The first was to commemorate the murder of over 60 African American Union troops and the victory by whites in the seizure of the city from its Union government….AFTER the war! The other three were placed to “let the [email protected]###S know who is still the boss!”
    All of them are gone now. Good riddance.

    • And now, there’s apparently (by even some gays) a call to remove some MLK statues as “revenge” for the confederate ones coming down. I don’t have a link or source, so take it with a grain of salt.

      • Jonathan Smith
        • Oh’behr in Minnesota

          Here’s another, from my local paper:

          Garrison Keillor: Taking down Confederate statues should be just the start

          The comment section is full of the deplorables.

          http://www.twincities.com/2017/05/23/garrison-keillor-taking-down-confederate-statues-should-be-just-the-start/

          • David Walker

            Thank you! It’s been quite some time since I’ve thought about Garrison; I’m glad he’s still writing and can still get folks all het up. Uff dah!

          • Christopher Smith

            WOW. Where did that FUCKING MANY DEPLORABLE TROGLODYTES even COME FROM in the TWIN FUCKING CITIES???????!?!?!?!?!?!

          • Oh’behr in Minnesota

            Yes … I agree, lot of deplorable people there. I think many of them come from the suburbs and rural Minnesota. Yet even more come from out of state. I think from other blogs such as Breitbart and elsewhere.

            Such as this person whom I assume is out of state.

            So I just wrote her:

            ——————————————————–

            louise FakePresident • 5 days ago

            If you say that you won and we should get over it, why do you care whether they are up or down. The mantra of the north is We won, you lost. Well we have been having a pretty happy diverse life since the war, Why do you hate us so much????We rarely give youse guys a thought.

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            Oh’behr in Minnesota louise • a few seconds ago
            Hold on, this is waiting to be approved by TwinCities.com.

            With your state issued Confederate flag license plates, then even more non-state issued Confederate rebel license plates for the front of the car, War of Northern Aggression, rebel and Confederate stickers, mugs, men’s, ladies and children’s wear, flags, home decor, etc.

            I think you don’t have to think about anyone else as all you think about is yourselves ALL of the time.

            VICTIMS still. In the past, present and in the future. Like everyone owes you. No wonder your states who cannot support yourselves.

            NET TAKER states … that is the US south.
            You’re certainly sucking off of my Minnesota:
            https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/#red-vs-blue

          • Oh’behr in Minnesota

            They deleted out my comment.. The Pioneer Press is a shoddy paper that censors comments.

      • BudClark

        That’s no surprise … racism is a pandemic in the gay community.

      • Joseph Miceli

        Gays who should know better….but then the Log Cabin retards will always be with us.

  • Richard B

    All this does is reinforce Alabama stupid ass white supremacist brand and actions like this make folks like me not what to go there or have a nickel of my money get spent on a business located there. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/548bd2cd7f26d07a5b3c7ea2f57d7faaf94bb6ddac388d82bdd1aaf579e9bfda.jpg

    • Treant

      Has he seen a urologist? Just askin’.

      • Silver Badger

        My thought too.

      • I’ll volunteer but I am not really a certified urologist. I can pretend though.

        • Treant

          Check and see if he has any swelling.

          • jmax

            Give him the old one-finger salute and check that prostate while your at it.

        • Can I assist?

    • WitlessProtection

      This is the background on all my iOS devices.

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      And just a few weeks ago they had an article about a big study AL had commissioned, wondering why people from blue states don’t go visit them.

      http://www.al.com/news/mobile/index.ssf/2017/05/blue_states_dont_send_tourists.html

      • Oh’behr in Minnesota

        Why, Alabama, don’t people visit?
        … not to go off on a tangent, yet …

        A friend of mine from Alabama who is Creole and part Cajun became a truck driver with an out of state and national company (I think) to make good money (compared to the jobs he’d otherwise get there in AL) and to escape from the bigoted south.

        He certainly hasn’t offered me any reasons to visit AL other than the food and it isn’t white people’s food.

        http://alabama.travel/experience-alabama/food

        I found the tourism page for food in AL, yet I don’t know if I would go there to dine across the state. It’s such a red state and as a gay man, I’m uncertain as to how welcome I’d be there. I think I’d stay in friendly blue bubbles of the USA where I’d have less chance of being harassed or feeling unwelcomed.

        Though if I were in Alabama for some reason, I’d seek out LGBT businesses to support if they’d gotten good or decent ratings. Or if they were new, to give them the business to support a new endeavor.

        • boatboy_srq

          Birmingham used to be a great, friendly town. I miss Miss Maybelle’s Beauty Salon & Chainsaw Repair and Eunice Crabtree’s Cut-Rate Delicatessen & Bait Shop.

          • David Walker

            The Grace L. Ferguson Airline and Storm Door Co.

  • Nate

    Removing these monuments is stupid and a waste of time and resources.

    • Silver Badger

      So much simpler just to blow them up.

      • Paula

        And it makes for great videos to post on YouTube.

      • WitlessProtection

        And if the act happens to take out some of their backers, so much the better.

        • saucetin

          Understand the sentiment but foresee that not playing well.

          • WitlessProtection

            One can dream…

      • Karl Dubhe

        I like that idea. I’ve always liked the ideas of blowing up things, real gud!

        https://youtu.be/uHkvD7-u7y8

      • Michael Bay would approve.

    • WitlessProtection

      Reading this stupid comment was a waste of my time and resources.

    • Jonathan Smith
      • Karl Dubhe

        Hey, I’d not have been able to post that SCTV Farm Report about blowing things up if it hadn’t been for that troll. 🙂

        • yes b’y

          he blowed up real good

    • Robincho

      Then I’ll just remove you instead.

    • Christopher Smith

      Removing YOU, on the other hand, is brilliant, a masterful use of time, resources, and technology. 🙂

  • Treant

    Um, OK, so is putting up a big ribbon printed with, “Memorial For A War We Lost” considered altering it? I’d say not, so have at. Alternately, “Memorial For Bigots” would also do.

  • Halou

    Just do the Republican thing and defund the agency responsible for maintaining the monuments in question. Whether it is graffiti, weather erosion, rust, bird poop, or anything else… Leave the monuments to become ugly husks that eventually even their own enthusiasts will want removed.

    • Canadian Observer

      I like the idea … do you mind if I add a little something to it … since police forces are a local jurisdiction, issue them instructions that they are not to enforce any ordinances against graffiti or other “mischief” in regards to the monuments.

    • Halou

      “Eat lead”?

      • Think you’re a little late in his case.

      • Steverino

        Maybe that’s why people become gun nuts: they suffer from lead poisoning which causes an addiction to lead.

    • Todd20036

      In his case, a few months without SNAP could do him some good.

      • That kind of diet never works well.

    • jmax

      “The Moment”? I thought knuckle-dragging, slack-jawed yokels looked like that all the time.

    • goofy_joe

      You’re giving them too much credit, I don’t think they’d care so long as they have their boom-sticks.

  • SoCalGal20

    Well at least Roy Moore’s stupid Ten Commandments monument isn’t protected! /s

  • That_Looks_Delicious
    • Jay George

      Brilliant. Gonna share.

  • m_lp_ql_m

    “Glorify the South’s problematic past…”

    So not until they resolve those issues can they move on to the South’s problematic present?

  • Todd20036

    Calling the Confederacy “Heritage” to the south is like calling Nazism “heritage” to Germany, and btw, it’s illegal to fly Nazi flags in Germany

    • JWC

      Which, unfortunately still happens

    • Steverino

      I’m surprised Nazis don’t refer to WWII as “the war of Jewish aggression.”

    • Which is why you’ll find confederate flags in Germany.

    • Christopher Smith

      Some creatures never learn. This usually leads to extinction (please gawud…….)

  • Lazycrockett

    I’m planting flowers so all I have time to say is Fuck Off.

    • Treant

      What kind and what general location? I finished May 12th, so they’re now outside in this cloudy weather, growing slowly and refusing to blossom much. 🙂

  • JWC

    Not supporting or denying the whole Southern problem. There is a lot said in the line from the song “The night they drove old Dixie down” To me It was a clash of ideals and only the victors,”They”, got to write the history The words “drove old Dixie down” represents a negative time in the South, but they have to accept the terms that defeat dictates. “Dixie” itself suggest an entire mindset of the South that had to be dismantled. Dismantled ,but not forgotten ,yet it must yeild and move on Two differing factions laying down their greivances and building towards a unified common goal. It does neither side any good to revist the pillars of the past. It is akin to waiting for a wound to heal but continuing to remove the scab Just the thoughts of a NWestener Could be totally wrong

    • unclemike

      The “history” the South got to write is one of slavery and treason. We can continue to study and learn from that history without statues glorifying the traitors.

      • JWC

        Very true People must learn both sides of a problem , understand them and not repeat them To me the South has reached part 1

  • ted-

    Sometimes I really hate this fucking country.

    • Xuuths

      Just the tobacco-chewin’ cousin-screwin’ booger-eatin’ morons of the old losin’ confederacy parts. Let ’em secede.

      • ted-

        Sooner the better. Or just have them kill themselves.

    • Christopher Smith

      SOMETIMES?!?!?!?

      • ted-

        Well, until the GOP loses all and any sense of power.

  • boobert

    O/T: Anyone who thinks the US made the right choice for president need their head examined ! Just listen to Hillary speaking as Wellesley and compare that to the idiot speaking at liberty u . http://www.npr.org/2017/05/26/530179298/hillary-clinton-to-deliver-commencement-speech-at-wellesley-college

  • unclemike
  • Dejerrity Mycron

    A message from the Alabama State Legislature
    (translated from the original draft written in crayon and possum grease)
    ———————————————————————————————-

    Hey y’all!! Were Alabama !! We captured hundreds of thousands of innocent people from another continent, dragged their asses back to the deep south, and enslaved and brutalized and raped and killed a shit-load of them to death, so that WE WHITE FOLKS could sit on our fat, ignorant asses all the live long day and sip mint juleps while impregnating out sisters and first cousins!!!

    Then we got our asses kicked by them uppity northern folks for NO REASON ‘cept a little indentured servitude! SO UNFAIR! And we intend to be BITTER about that forever !!!

    The land of the free and the brave is only for white folk, y’all. And we’re gonna shove all of our bitterness and hatred in what’s left of our hearts right in your face FOREVER !!!

    Y’all come back now. Less’en your queer !!!

    • jefe5084

      ..or black, or brown, or Asian, or don’t talk Amerikkkan, or aren’t a god-fearing christian, or are against sex with your family members and animals.

      • Oh’behr in Minnesota

        Or ridin’ horses, with hoods covern’ yours face and burnin’ down some black personz’ house n middle night, after lynchng someone. Golly fun. Dem where the good old white menz glory days when no one questiond anyting.

        (Mimicking some southern white trash bigot and his “heritage”) /s

    • JWC

      Did they then become the hierarchy of the GOP

  • MonochromeMouse

    hacksaws are perfectly legal, and in Alabama you can buy fireworks, so I don’t see the “monuments” being protected by a piece of paper as much of a deterrent if enough people want them gone.

  • Nic Peterson

    Another word for confederacy is loser. Losers dont get monuments.

    • jefe5084

      Remember a few years ago, when the typical deal was to give participation trophies so as not to bruise delicate egos or whatever it was that they were meant for. Well, these people do not deserve participation trophies.

  • Lars Littlefield

    Mrs Kay “Doubtfire” Ivey needs her license to bake cookies revoked.

  • Isn’t this person just the former governor of Alabama who was forced to resign wearing a fancy blonde wig? I think it is the same person. I am not fooled easily. Either that or they come from the same litter (I mean giant trash can btw).

  • Ninja0980

    Alabama…racist and proud of it!

  • Hank
    • Baltimatt

      All white people?

      • Hank

        The ones, that voted for the existing Government, at least. Hell, those, that still support Segregation and the Jim Crow laws!!

      • David Walker

        You forgot the hyphen. All-white people.

        • Hank

          Maybe he meant “ALT-White People”!

  • Governor Kay Ivey: Objectively pro-slavery then.

    At least we now know the direction these Republicans are heading then. On the other hand, they’ve already institutionalized slavery in their prisons.

    • JWC

      There is a nest of them in the hierarchy of Alabama Kay Ivey Roy Moore Robert Benchley Jeff Sessions and a few others all friggin crooks

      • Oh’behr in Minnesota

        Aristocracy of crooks. Embedded in their politics and institutions.

  • while i certainly can understand the desire to remove monuments to people who went to war to protect their right to own human beings, sometimes i wonder about folks who make it a central issue. otoh it’s nice to see what i assume to be liberals and honest critics of history flex some muscle in the South, there are so many more pressing issues today than a statue almost no one pays any meaningful attention to until moments like these. actions like this bring out the racists and give them a reason to make the claim ‘the white race is under attack’ and other stupid arguments that aren’t true. they also cost time, money and effort as those same racists find their gumption to stand up for such stupid things.

    a lot of people like to say the best way to counter hate speech isn’t censorship, but more speech. people like me like to say that i’d really like to see more efforts to strengthen and expand fact-based history education, and more attention to the plight of black people in the South, many of whom are desperately poor, treated unfairly by the legal system, and denied quality educations. do i find the monument offensive? mildly. do i think there are about 100 more important things i think liberal crusaders should spend their time on? oh, yeah.

    • JWC

      It is a common thread. Tell Americans you are out lawing their guns and watch the furor that erupts. Tell churches they are paying taxes watch that blow up.Legalize Gay Marriage and watch tha explodes Transgendered bathrooms. It goes on and on and on

    • leastyebejudged

      The “liberal crusaders” you’re blathering about is the SPLC.

      I’m sure it’s possible to overcome one’s oppression surrounded by the symbols of it. But how idiotic is that ?

  • yes b’y
  • goofy_joe

    Of course, Alabama.

  • Natty Enquirer

    They’ll use this law to preserve Latin crosses as well.

  • tonyg

    How ’bout we leave all those Confederate Monuments in place, but make it legal to spit, piss and/or shit on them? How ’bout that, Kay?

    • Oh’behr in Minnesota

      They also could have left up the Whites and Coloreds signs. Yet switched them. So whites got to see what it was like to use the coloreds facilities (or lack thereof).

  • Droz

    You can take my participation trophy out of my cold, dead hands!

  • boatboy_srq

    Confederates never stopped fighting lazy no-good lying thieving niCLANGs damn Yankees Federalists.

  • Gregory In Seattle

    Alabama: a state that still uses a traitor’s flag to represent itself, and whose constitution still requires segregated schools and criminalizes interracial marriage.

    So I am not surprised that they would want to make removing monuments to its racist, treasonous past illegal.

  • Peter Wong

    They certainly love protecting their racist history down in Alabama.

  • fuzzybits

    And after signing this,she went to be in a minstrel show.

  • Happy_Housewife

    Alabama honey, there’s a reason why you come in dead last in just about every quality-of-life measurement. You’re stupid and you’re ugly.