INDONESIA: Two Men Publicly Caned For Gay Sex While Jeering Large Crowd Records With Phones [VIDEO]

ABC News reports:

Two men in Indonesia’s Aceh province were publicly caned dozens of times Tuesday for consensual gay sex, a punishment that intensifies an anti-gay backlash in the world’s most populous Muslim country and which rights advocates denounced as “medieval torture.”

More than a thousand people packed the courtyard of a mosque to witness the caning, which was the first time that Aceh, the only province in Indonesia to practice Shariah law, has caned people for homosexuality.

The crowd shouted insults and cheered as the men, aged 20 and 23, were whipped across the back and winced with pain. Many in the crush of spectators filmed the caning with cellphones as a team of five robed and hooded enforcers took turns inflicting the punishment, relieving one another after every 20 strokes for one of the men and 40 for the other.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    The world is going backwards.

  • zhera

    Nope. Not watching that.

    How nice for the caners that were allowed breaks inbetween all the caning. Wouldn’t want them to get tired! And the hoods are a nice touch.

    Blech, that sarcasm didn’t taste well. FUCK ‘EM ALL! Dammit.

    • Schlukitz

      Not watching it either.

      Brought to us by the folks who still believe that the world is flat.

  • bkmn

    This is what we are fighting against. Have no doubts that if they could get away with it the religious right would do the same or worse to us.

  • PickyPecker
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  • Reasonoverhate

    How many of you are going to line up to defend islam now??? The majority of muslims believe we should be beaten or killed. Religion of peace my ass!

    • m_lp_ql_m

      Who here defends iSlam, or any religion really?

      • Reasonoverhate

        It’s in every thread about terrorism. Not all muslims are bad, blah, blah, blah…..All religion is bullshit in my not so humble opinion but the others aren’t committing terrorism and other human rights atrocities on the scale that islam currently is.

        • Ninja0980

          There are checks and balances in other places (for now.)

          • zhera

            Don’t you just love how Christianity is given credit for the democratic, lawful, rules of society while everyone else are barbarians?

          • vorpal 😼

            Christianity is given credit for the democratic, lawful, rules of society

            According to Christians.
            That’s like someone assuring you that they’re a genius and know the most things. The best things. Bigly things.

          • MB

            So, YOU are just one amazingly smart big-ball of fur, Hmmm ???
            You still haz interwebzmail in the Southern Hemisphere ? 💨

          • vorpal 😼

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          • zhera

            Yes, of course. 🙂

        • vorpal 😼

          I agree with both sentiments.

          Religions are tools for control and often used for evil, as many offer so many dissenting messages that you can pick and choose what you like.

          At the same time, not every practitioner of a religion is evil or uses their religion for evil. (However, they are complicit in perpetuating the existence of their religion, and thus the possible use of it for evil.)

          I know some good Muslims and some good Christians. That being said, even if Islam and Christianity didn’t exist, I’m sure they’d still be good people, i.e. they are good people regardless of their religion, and not because of it.

    • WitlessProtection

      I think EVERY religion is evil. It was invented to control people then, and it is being used to control people now. Disgusting – all of it. Except for those pasta people, there is a religion I can get behind.

    • Buford

      All religions are the same… feeling the need to participate belies a flawed character.

    • zhera

      Majority? You have a source for that? Is there a poll out there claiming that?

      I have no love for islam, I find it ridiculous and backwards. Like all religions. But there’s a difference between a religion and religious people, not the least people who are put in a specific religious group without necessarily being all that religious.

      Please remember that what you hear about muslims in the news is always negative because why would the media waste time and resources on normal people just living their lives in peace?

  • This is what the American Taliban wants here. Oh wait I think they’d prefer stoning to death. My bad.

    • PickyPecker

      I had thought they were still into ye olde fashioned pressings….
      http://people.ucls.uchicago.edu/~snekros/Salem%20Journal/imgs/ElbertD.jpg

      • madknits

        This illustrates the pressing of Giles Corey, during the Salem Witch hysteria of the 1690s. As they put the weights on him he called for more, eventually being crushed to death. I believe it took 2 days to accomplish this.

        • The_Wretched

          Yes, you ask for more rocks so you die faster.

          • Man_in_the_mists

            In his case, it was because they were trying to get a guilty or innocent plea out of him. However, he knew that the game was rigged and taking either plea would end in him losing his house and lands, with his children ending up homeless. So he took a third option, “More weight!”

      • Schlukitz

        This give new meaning to the expression “Giving gravity to the utterances of others.”

    • Tawreos

      I think they would prefer sending us to camps with showers and ovens. This way they can get what they want in a way that doesn’t upset their tender tummies or their claims of ignorance.

  • Michael R

    Is Mike Pence drooling ?

  • JT

    How many boners in the audience? Among the people surrounding the victim?

    • Todd20036

      More than I even want to try to count.

    • Schlukitz

      Great observation. And how many spontaneous orgasms?

      I have no problem with consensual bdsm but I suspect that there are far more closeted sadists and masochists enjoying this non-consensual display of cruelty in that crowd than anyone would care to admit.

  • pj

    barbaric

    • CanuckDon

      …but with iPhones.

      • Natty Enquirer

        Apple smiles.

  • james1200

    I’m gonna say it again, and get roasted again: modern Islam the way it’s practiced in nearly every Muslim country now (Turkey is heading that way, too) is NOT our friend. We need to accept as many Muslims as possible who want to escape Sharia, yes (because despite the right’s rhetoric, Muslims in America are fully assimilated) but it is fucking insane that because of Trump, we have to pretend as if Islam (as it is currently pracitced) doesn’t mean death and torture for us, because it does. We are abandoning our brothers in these countries because we’re afraid of being labeled Islamophobic, like the Trumpettes. Chrisitianity is a garbage religion and yet, somehow, Islam has outdone it and has turned into a multi-garbage dumpster fire of a religion. The fact that Indonesia, which was never tolerant but used to look the other way at gay and Trans people, is now going all out on Sharia is terrifying because it’s the world’s largest Muslim country.

    • Todd20036

      The primary religion in America is Christianity. I assure you, the only reason we aren’t as bad as extreme Muslims is that we don’t have a theocracy.

      If Pence managed to change that (if Trump is booted from office), then what happened today in Indonesia, will seem merciful by comparison.

      Islam is garbage. Christianity is garbage. Islam becomes monstrous because the governments there are based on Islam.

      If America’s government becomes based on Christianity, then Christianity here will move from garbage to monstrous.

      • Ninja0980

        Yup, with the “religious freedom” laws being a first step in that.

      • james1200

        I certainly don’t disagree. But I also know if that happens, we have constitutional rights we can use and a majority of the population that would have our backs. And it’s not just the governments in Muslim countries: it’s the insanely nuts culture that thinks it’s perfectly acceptable to beat, or murder and set on fire, your child if he’s gay (there’s an insane amount of honor killings every year, especially of young girls.) Or if a woman is raped, she’s punished instead of the rapist. Also the fact that women are essentially chattel. Our culture is far more liberal and accepting of us than our politicians. The culture there is rotting and going backwards. I mean, are we supposed to pretend the Muslim world isn’t going ass backwards in human rights?

        http://miraclesfor.me/wp-content/uploads/-000//1/x-collage_650_032315050726.jpg
        https://s3.amazonaws.com/miracles-media-files/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/27002249/iran-afghanistan.jpg

      • james1200

        I despise Chrisitanity but I don’t fear it. You openly despise Christianity but are so afraid of saying the wrong thing, you refuse to admit to yourself that Islam as it is currently praciticed, is evil and bathshit insane in a way modern Christianity can’t touch. Everything you guys say about Christianity is “well, if Christians have their way, we’ll be just like that so…” and this train of thought allows you to dismiss the evil that’s happening over there.

        • Goodboy

          I don’t think Todd is dismissing how batshit crazy Islam is. Yes right now it is much much worse but only because we have a check on Christianity here.

          • Schlukitz

            All the more reason for the Fist Amendment to the US Constitution.

        • Schlukitz

          You appear to be dismissing the Crusades and other Christian atrocities that have occurred over the centuries?

          • james1200

            No, I didn’t forget and again, I say Chrisitanity sucks, but since I don’t live in the 16th century, I didn’t mention it. But thanks for kind of admitting that Islam is going thru it’s own dark ages right now.

      • Jeff Chang

        So the multiple reformations qithin Christianity had nothing to do with it?

        Does the Episcopal church want to kill gays?

        • Goodboy

          Why don’t we just completely remove the separation of Church and State. Better yet lets give them complete power to boot. Then will see how reformative they are.

        • Schlukitz

          Another “So the……..” question that attempts to put unintended words in the mouths of others and put them on the defensive.

          Most disingenuous, Jeff.

  • HeyYouKidsGetOffMyLawn

    Is this the same Aceh that was so brutally hit during the 2004 earthquake?

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      The same.

  • Ogre Magi

    a day without muslims and christians is like a day without rats and cockroaches

    • JNK

      I despise Christianity, but let’s not pretend that at this moment, Islam isn’t more f^cked up. Christianity has nothing to do with what’s going on in Indonesia. Or what happened in Manchester last night. Muslims need to get their f^king house in order.

      • zhera

        If all muslims are responsible for the terrorist activities of ISIS, are all christians responsible for the horrible treatment of LGBT in Uganda?

        • Jeff Chang

          So to a criticism of an ideology you personalize it to an entire group?

          Are all GOPer responsible for Donald Trump?

          • barrixines

            Yes.

            Next customer please.

          • RaygunsGoZap

            Absolutely. Also every single one of the Greens, BernieBro Dems and all of Russia.

          • Schlukitz

            How come every single one of your queiries begins with “So blah, blah, blah….” and which is nothing more than an unveiled attempt to put unintended words in the mouths of others?

          • stevenj

            You haven’t figured that out yet???

          • zhera

            I’m not the one who’s mixing up islam and muslims. Muslims are people, and as diverse as any other religious group.

            All GOPers are indeed responsible for Donald Trump. They choose to be GOPers and are only seen as GOPers because they have chosen that. Unlike millions of ‘muslims’ who are grouped with religious extremists just because of their culture and origin.

      • Schlukitz
      • RaygunsGoZap

        Dead is dead. The death toll due to Christian influence in public policy, war and international relations is way higher than ISIS’.

        • Oscarlating Wildely

          Not to mention the genocide created in American history of scores of cultural groups– and the subjugation of women. If Christian theocracy were to take root, it would just be Sharia with a cross in front of it.

  • Tomcat

    That is America 1820 and again in 2018.

  • boobert

    So numb nuts is in Rome. Please let the pope have US reporters present and read that ass the riot act !

  • indorri

    Colonialism: a terrible solution to an even more terrible problem. The Dutch should never have left.

  • Dejerrity Mycron

    They filmed it? And they say that *we’re* the sinners. Fucking barbarians.

    • Tawreos

      Religion has always been big on torture porn of one sort or another.

  • bambinoitaliano

    So what is the government of Indonesia hiding? Siphoning millions of dollars from the tax payers? Enacting more laws to curb the rights of its citizens? Changing the rules to stay in power forever?

  • MikeBx2

    FWIW. Source Wikipedia.

    USAID is a long-term partner in helping Indonesia tackle development challenges. In 2014, total aid for Indonesia from the United States amounted to $196,651,740, of which $149,639,762 was spearheaded by USAID.[1] Majority of the aid was allocated towards governance, health and education.

    • William

      Aceh province was devastated by the 2004 tsunami. International aid came in from around the world.

  • Jonathan Smith
  • Captain Jack

    Religion is the root of all evil!!

    • Jeff Chang

      So you hate Quakers?

      • Goodboy

        Our favorite troll is back I see.

        • stevenj

          Taking some time off from polishing his guns.

          • Octoberfurst

            And screwing his sister.

          • Schlukitz

            And is now polishing his perceived turds of wisdom.

      • j.martindale

        In some respects, what they do to twist their children into backwards farmers, sure. Quakers, too.

        • Octoberfurst

          To be honest I think you are thinking about the Amish. I know Quakers and they are as suburban as they come. They also tend to be very liberal.

          • j.martindale

            You are right. My bad. Quakers are innocuous. That is the best evaluation I can come up with for any religion.

          • Oscarlating Wildely

            Yes, we are, but the relation with Amish is based on some element of historical connection. Amish and modern Quakers are indeed quite different. The Amish, Shakers, Mennonites, and Quakers were part of the peace or pacifist movements or faiths. The path toward that peace is greatly different. Amish: well, that’s a conservative tradition. But Quakers? Um, atheist Quakers are more than welcome in some meetings– and common. Fortunately, some Meetings lean so far left they’re falling over. But note: There are still conservative sects within Quakerism– you know like with Nixon.

      • another_steve

        Or, Jeff, does he hate Martin Luther King Jr., Bishop Desmond Tutu, Bishop Gene Robinson, Mahatma Gandhi and on and on and on. All of them, and millions and millions of other religious or spiritual people throughout the ages, good people whose values were informed by their religious/spiritual beliefs.

        Some folks here on JMG (not all, but some) don’t possess the power of discernment in this area. For them, ALL religion, ALL spirituality is bad, wrong, evil, etc. For them, the Catholic nun or the rabbi or the Hindu guru who tends lovingly to people, including LGBT people, are the equivalent of the most rabid and evil religious fundamentalists. In their opinion, the nun, the rabbi and the guru need to abandon their wicked wicked faith.

        Whatever.

        And so it goes. 😉

        • Schlukitz

          Whitewashing religion again, are we?

          Acknowledging stupid remarks simply gives credence to the utterers of of that stupidity.

          • Like yours? Paint with a broad brush, and you’re gonna get slop Schlukitz – not a Michelangelo.

          • Schlukitz

            Huh?

        • j.martindale

          Yes, there are good people who are religious. But in my view, they would likely be good people despite religion. I dispute that it is religion that “informs their values” because the same Christian/Hindu/Islamic religions also spawn the savages depicted in this story.

          Religion is not what makes them good. An ethical attitude toward their fellow humans makes them good.

          • Schlukitz

            I am always amused by religious folks who argue that there can be no goodness in people who do not accept and worship their particular version of God. These are also the same people who steal the credit when a physician (perhaps an atheist himself) saves the life of a patient by saying that it was “the will of God”.

          • JCF

            Bad religion doesn’t amuse me, it terrifies me. [And, Schlukitz, what you describe is, emphatically, BAD religion]

          • Schlukitz

            Hi JCF. Nice to hear from you. Hope all is well with you and yours.

            I should have indicated in my post that my use of the term “amused” was tongue-in-cheek.

            You’re absolutely right. Bad religion is not amusing at all and is, indeed, terrifying. It’s a sad commentary that we seem to see and hear so many more examples of bad religion than we do good examples of religion.

          • Schlukitz

            I think the word I was groping for is *bemused*.

          • another_steve

            Question for ya, j.martindale:

            In your entire life, you’ve never personally met one human being — not one — for whom religion or spirituality was a good thing?

          • RaygunsGoZap

            Stop conflating religion and spirituality. They aren’t interchangeable.

          • another_steve

            Oh. Okay. Does that mean you like spirituality but hate religion?

            Got it. 😉

          • RaygunsGoZap

            I dislike smarmy, intellectual dishonest theophiles.

          • Schlukitz

            That makes two of us!

          • j.martindale

            I think you can obviously look at religions and say, on a scale of one to 10, that the damage to society caused by Unitarians versus Sharia Law Muslims is infinitely greater for the latter. Unitarianism is innocuous. Unitarians don’t stone, whip, blind, maim and kill. And Unitarians tell me they are comforted at times by the fellowship of their religion. I have an attitude of live and let live. So wallow in the fellowship, enjoy the comfort of your belief.

            But fellowship and comfort are provided by good people all the time without the baggage of superstition. And they are available without the corrosive and coercive effects of religion on society.

          • another_steve

            I can’t imagine how painful it must be for people who share views such as yours to observe the yearly Pride parades across the country.

            I don’t know where your nearest Pride parades are, j.martindale, but mine are in Baltimore and D.C. Half or more of the contingents in those parades are comprised of LGBT people and their allies who are representing LGBT-affirmative churches, synagogues, mosques and temples.

            Must be agony for people who share your views to witness that each year.

            Agony.

          • j.martindale

            I dispute your assumption that it is religion that is the source of those people’s goodness. And, no, it doesn’t bother me in the least. I like those people. And as long as they keep their superstitions to themselves and out of the sphere of politics–which is where all the authoritarian religions love to control the rest of us–I wish them well and thank them for their support.

          • Schlukitz

            Religious people doing the right thing should not mean that I, as a gay person, should have to bow down to and kiss the ecclesiastical rings of their clergymen.

            Or their asses, for that matter!

          • another_steve

            I agree 100 percent.

          • Oscarlating Wildely

            I believe that one can be Unitarian and atheist at the same time.

          • CottonBlimp

            Religion doesn’t inspire goodness. Religion convinces good people that faith is a component of goodness to take advantage of them.

            Can you deny that this world would be an infinitely better place if people like Stephen Colbert couldn’t maintain such a blindspot about evil organizations like the Catholic church?

          • Oscarlating Wildely

            I’d maintain that if the world listened to Sinead when she ripped up El Popo’s picture we’d have saved a hell of a lot of kids from abuse and rape.

          • Octoberfurst

            Well said.

          • TuuxKabin

            Thank you j.martindale. I have a _s blocked but would have commented to him:

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0ea9ff2d66ef371535ff6fd90e92571838a78e7c8697cd7dc4f426b960bb9ddc.jpg

          • j.martindale

            The benevolent parts of Christianity, Buddhism and other religions do not require a belief in miracles, a divinity, an afterlife, or anything supernatural. The benevolent parts of religion are the teachings of a philosophy of kindness and decency. The rest of it–the resurrection, the miracle of the loaves and fishes, the virgin birth, the Trinity–are superstitions that are of no value. And the organization of religions into sects typically creates discord within and between nations.

          • Oscarlating Wildely

            The rest of it–the resurrection, the miracle of the loaves and fishes, the virgin birth, the Trinity–are superstitions that are of no value.
            Can make for good art. Let’s face it: Michelangelo’s Jeebus is kind of hot.

          • JCF

            “The rest of it–the resurrection, the miracle of the loaves and fishes, the virgin birth, the Trinity”

            They’re legends, analogies, or both. They can inform some (imo, of course!) pretty awesome ritual and—again, speaking only personally—help “get me through the night”.

            OK, to get really personal: Rublev’s Trinity

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/70588ffca1733533e7d8d2479031605bff3abe5e622773078b3d45222599dd3a.jpg

            This image has long helped me conceive my Higher Power—the feeling it gives me, that ALL of Creation (existence) is within the communal Reality of Love [There’s lots of symbols w/ Byzantine iconography I need not get into, blah-blah-blah]

            Long story short: on 11/8/16 and thereafter—along w/ Eating Jesus and Buddhist meditation!—this has helped get me through.

            “Take what you like and leave the rest”

          • j.martindale

            My life would be all that much poorer were not for Renaissance art. And if it isn’t Christian in its inspiration, it is Greek mythology–all religious based. But it is the art I embrace, and I can certainly do that without affection for the source of the inspiration.

          • Oscarlating Wildely

            But note that for some religions *it’s not just religion that drives goodness.* Hate be all Quakerly, but religion and atheism both have voices that can and should be considered as potentially relevant. Paganism, Secularism, Humanism: these are all ideologies that may have important elements of meaning. No monopoly on who gets its right.

          • JCF

            “Ethical attitudes” have evolved, over the eons of human history—the history of human belief-systems. They didn’t just magically appear the first time someone said “There is no god” (or if one does believe that—that’s a pretty dodgy belief-system!)

            My belief-system: ethical attitudes… PLUS Eternal Gay Disco Forever. Seriously, is that so objectionable?

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/05235405c7c5faae4144ded0affaf1f7212111decd36cdc2e45dcd7c87125d68.jpg

      • licuado de platano

        No I don’t hate Quakers. Just the nutjobs like Dick Nixon.

        • Oscarlating Wildely

          I would say that most Quakers didn’t like Nixon. He represented nothing Quakerly and was not active at all; Quakerism died in his life the second his mother, who was part of a long heritage of Quakers, died.

        • Misutaa Roboto

          And as anti-religious as I am, I have to say that Nixon’s repugnance was independent of his Quakerism.

    • Goodboy
      • Oscarlating Wildely

        To be honest, I learned about appreciating and agreeing with Hitchens through fellow Quakers. He speaks about not following religion as a correct, authoritative voice, especially as *the* only authoritative voice. .

    • Sorry Jack, but you’re wrong. Humans are the root of all evil. Organised religion is merely a tool that those who pervert the tenets of their faith use to oppress the “other.”
      It’s lazy, arrogant and just plain ignorant to blame humanity’s ills on “religion.” And frankly I’m extremely tired of this community’s eagerness to be just that lazy, arrogant and ignorant with their glee and enthusiasm to punch the big red “EASY” button, instead of using the brains they were given to examine the real root cause.

  • Ninja0980

    Religion is poison, simple as that.

  • Tom G

    May karma have it’s way on any person there in support of this. Shame on every one of them.

  • Tomcat

    So would they still can them if they were sexual masochist?

  • Bluto

    fucking barbarians!

    • Todd20036

      Actually, according to Ladybird, that’s us!

    • Boreal

      I just wrote the exact same thing above.

  • Ninja0980

    Btw, important to remember we have a sitting Supreme Court justice (and a former one in Sandra Day O’Connor) who thought laws allowing people who engaged in gay sex to be put in jail were fine and dandy.
    2003 wasn’t that long ago and with the Religious Reich slowly worming their way back into power via the courts and states, important for us to watch videos like this and remind ourselves that stuff like this (and worse) DID happen here to LGBT, still does in some cases (conversion therapy) and can happen again if we let our guard down.

  • Dejerrity Mycron

    The sadists who create the punishments and the reasons for them always attribute the laws to some mythical god who is never around to answer for his own sins.

    They get a sexual thrill from causing extreme pain, and they are untouchable because when you say “God told me to” then you never have to answer for what you have done.

    Religion is the true crime against humanity.

    Kill all the executioners.

    • TimCA

      I don’t advocate murder. But if the person carrying out this act of violence were to die while a gay person were defending him/herself from this savage physical attack, then as far as I’m concerned it would be completely justified. LGBT people have a right to fight back!

  • Michael

    Wow, and they do this in the Name of God.

    • Natty Enquirer

      The Most Merciful

      • Michael

        Sorry but I do believe in the message found in the Gospels. The ironic thing is if you read the Gospel of John you get a clear indication Jesus, if He was anything, was in a relationship with John.

        • Natty Enquirer

          I was being sarcastic, an occasional fault of mine.

          Some of the Gospel messages are admirable, but the Christians hardly invented them any more than they invented ethics or kindness.

        • m_lp_ql_m

          Oh great. One more interpretation.

          Hey, if it gives you a tax break, why not, right?

  • Boreal

    Fucking barbarians.

  • Tomcat

    Kill someone and say God told me to do it and watch these same so called Christians throw you in prison or the nut house.
    Why,, because they know God does not REALLY tell anyone anything.
    So basically they are saying if you believe God tells you to do things you are CRAZY, just like they are.

  • Paula

    All I ask is to be left alone and live my life free from religion. That seems to be too much to ask.

    • Octoberfurst

      To them yes it is. You MUST conform to what they think God wants for your life & they will do everything in their power to make it happen. In short they are a group of judgmental assholes.

      • jonfromcalifornia

        Islam severely punishes you if you don’t believe in their religion anymore. Some countries jail you, others torture you and some stone you to death.

    • Schlukitz

      Simply amazing how much power and influence an imaginary sky-daddy confers on these self-appointed custodians of morality.

    • Snarkaholic

      Yes…they are hell-bent on ransacking your pockets and making sure you have No Fun Whatsoever…which will distract them from their own lack thereof.

    • JCF

      Free from violence, of ANY effed-up belief-system—with deities or without.

  • The Professor

    Animals.

  • TimCA

    Coming to America if religious loons have their way here.

    • Texndoc

      You see that statement every time. It’s not here. The people who want it HERE are the ones practicing it THERE. Anything to be done about it?

  • Jeff Chang

    Ah…this must be the cultural enrichment so much talked about.

    • barrixines

      Spend a lot of time talking about cultural enrichment in Indonesia? How fancy.

  • Pat

    There are plenty of people here in the US who watch this on tv and would like nothing better than to see a form of this barbarism carried out here. And I mean ‘god-fearin’ red-blooded ‘Muricans’. They never went away. Laws put them in their place and now with Hair Furor in the WH, they see their opportunity.

  • Gil

    Say hello to the most advanced sentient life form in the Orion arm, ladies and gentlemen.

    Approach with caution.

  • Waarki
  • fuzzybits

    Can’t watch.

  • Oscarlating Wildely

    Barbarians. Cross, Crescent, Star, or just some other sky fairy tale bullshit. They’re still barbarians.

  • Paula Key

    Ignorant Indonesians: In May 2016, the World Psychiatric Association, representing 118 countries and over 200,000 psychiatrists, wrote to the U.N and world leaders. They stated clearly that homosexuality cannot be changed or reversed, so it is NOT a choice. Such a backward religious leaders!

  • Long ago, the forefathers and great mothers of my faith had a unique method of stamping out zealotry and it’s associated crimes.
    The maniac was bound, sealed into a wicker basket and burned alive in the village center with the whole population forced to attend and made to clearly understand the criminal’s “sins”… what was left was hung from the village Hall’s roof peak until it rotted away, as a reminder to everyone that dishonor, and perverting the will of the Gods would not go unpunished…
    Barbecue mullah, anyone? … ah, the good ol’ days.

  • Robert Battlehammer

    Religion.

  • coffeehouse patron

    Some of the comments on this thread include compelling examples of the state-supported Christian atrocities that were committed when many or most Western countries were theocracies to some extent. Those examples, from the Middle Ages through the 16th century, make the Muslim world look even worse. Muslim countries missed out entirely on the Renaissance, the 17th-century scientific revolution, the 18th-century Age of Reason, the 19th-century abolitionist movement (Saudi Arabia only abolished slavery in the 1960s due to British pressure), the women’s suffrage movement, the Civil Rights Era and the LGBT rights movement.

    It’s strange to suggest that “if the fundamentalist Christians had a theocracy, they would be doing the same thing,” etc. Well, the last seven centuries of Western history clearly explain why fundamentalist Christians have no theocracy—not today, not in the 1950s, and really not since the mid-17th century when the religious wars in Europe ended. Please support reform and secularism in the Middle East and throughout the Muslim world. As Dave Rubin just said in the segment from the link below, “this is the great fight of our time.”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLJNNplRfQg

  • JCF

    While the physical torturers may have been masked (because they KNOW they’re doing something shameful?), others in the “cheering/jeering” crowd were not. DOXX the fuckers for the day when JUSTICE INEVITABLY COMES.

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