Government Ethics Letter Reveals Trump’s Lawyer Didn’t Want Him To Sign Financial Disclosure Form

The Associated Press reports:

Donald Trump’s attorneys originally wanted him to submit an updated financial disclosure without certifying the information as true, according to correspondence with the Office of Government Ethics.

Attorney Sheri Dillon said she saw no need for Trump to sign his 2016 personal financial disclosure because he is filing voluntarily this year. But OGE director Walter Shaub said his office would only work with Dillon if she agreed to follow the typical process of having Trump make the certification. That is standard practice for the thousands of financial disclosure forms OGE processes each year.

The Associated Press obtained the letters under a Freedom of Information Act request. “As we discussed, OGE will provide this assistance on the condition that the President is committed to certifying that the contents of his report are true, complete and correct,” Shaub wrote in a May 10 letter. “When we met on April 27, 2017, you requested that he be excused from providing this certification.”

  • Ben in Oakland

    You sign a disclosure form with your name on it, but you don’t certify that it is true by doing so? Only a lawyer could come up with that kind of weasel logic.
    “First thing, let’s hang all the lawyers” may actually save our republic.

    • Butch

      Since I’m always eager to jump in with my usual pointless observations, I did not know this:
      Shakespeare’s exact line ”The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers,” was stated by Dick the Butcher in ”Henry VI,” Part II, act IV, Scene II, Line 73. Dick the Butcher was a follower of the rebel Jack Cade, who thought that if he disturbed law and order, he could become king.

      • -M-

        Yes. The line means the opposite of what most people think it does. The character isn’t an Everyman who wants to get rid of lawyers for being shady, he’s a crook like Trump who knows their insistence on legal processes obstructs his schemes to take whatever he wants and be unaccountable.

  • popebuck1

    Gee, nothing suspicious about THAT.

  • another_steve

    He’s very orange in that picture.

  • justmeeeee

    Hey, you guys! Do you think the president would sign something that’s not true? Come on, you guys!

    • Yixing’s Fluffer

      “There has never been a more honest president than me! People say, ‘Oh, but what about Honest Abe?’ And I say, did you get a look at his wife? Who could tell a fat cow like that she’s beautiful? Only a liar. She was a fat cow like Rosie. Disgusting.”

      • Nowhereman

        Aha! Trump’s speechwriter!

    • David Walker

      And just to prove it’s true, he’ll send it as a certified letter.

  • Michael R
    • Michael R
    • I’ve yet to see a crassly expressed criticism or attack from him directed at someone else to fail to be 100% true about and applicable to him.

    • netxtown

      gross? nope
      incompetence? nope
      gross incompetence?….well, we’re still waiting for that answer…..

    • swimboy

      …asking for a friend.

    • The_Wretched

      Yes, you could.

  • Prost Seattle

    So his lawyers wanted his to submit a financial disclosure that really disclosed nothing? Who thinks like this?

    • JW Swift

      Lawyers.

      • Bad Tom

        Trump’s lawyers.

        • Jerry

          And more specifically, Trump’s lawyers who know that the untruthful financial disclosure, if certified to be the truth, can certainly come back to bite him.

      • The_Wretched

        i know lawyers, this is really strange. It’s even the kind of thing that risks your license.

        • -M-

          When obstruction is all you’ve got to work with …

          • The_Wretched

            It’s times like that when a lawfirm has a partners meeting and they figure out the financial hit and walk away.

    • David Walker

      Someone desperate to hang onto her/his job. Why would one do that? Money? Prestige of working for BLOTUS? A pent-up desire to lie like a rug? I am now pretty well conditioned not to fully accept at face value anything they say. It’s like I said about giving xns another chance: Sorry, but I’ve run out of cheeks to turn. And according to the KJV (which god himself wrote), Matthew 18:21-22, “21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? 22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.” That’s 490. A news source confirmed that 45 verifiably lied 488 times in his first 100 days. He has lied at least twice since. I feel we’re over our allowed 490 limit

  • bkmn
    • GayOldLady

      Even the Rasmussen poll, a notoriously right leaning polling organization, has Trump seriously underwater.

      President Trump Job Approval
      Rasmussen Reports
      Approve 44, Disapprove 56
      Disapprove +12

      • Gustav2

        Oops.

    • safari

      48% want his impeachment.

      • bkmn

        And rising.

    • The majority does not trust him and the majority did not vote for him. Now we just need the majority to do something about it.

      • What I believe needs to happen: Congressional Republicans (and ideally also governors and state reps) need to be convinced their jobs are on the line.

  • Max_1
  • Lazycrockett
    • Nowhereman

      Yup–children are childlike. Children are just being children. It’s their job. Trump is childish. He is an embarrassment to children and adults alike.

    • Rex

      Will any Orange Shitgibbons be offended if I call him one?

      • Adam King

        Just don’t do it around the more sensitive orangutans and you should be fine.

    • Children aren’t cognitively developed. Trump is. Trump is the result of race, class, and gender privilege that creates rich white men with no concept of consequence.

    • Agree in general…but I also tend to take issue when folks are basically saying, “Y’all need to use MY chosen epithets for him, stop using this popular one I don’t want you to use.”

      • Silver Badger

        The only epithet I’m interested in is the one that starts with “here lies…”

        • swimboy

          I’d settle for “former…”

          • pj

            the late,,,,

        • Jerry

          I think you’re referring to “epitaph”…as in the inscription on the tombstone read, “Here Lies That Insufferable Asshole, Donald J. Trump.”

          • Silver Badger

            Absolutely. Damn that spell check!

        • bcarter3

          You can use that one every time he opens his mouth.

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        Yeah. And especially since pretty much everybody agrees that there’s a whole lot wrong with him and this is not normal, but there are a dozen different ideas about what that abnormality consists of.

      • Lars Littlefield

        I can’t understand the need for the wide range of epithets when a simple “He’s an asshole!” fits so well.

        • Because it’s fun and creative. I literally have a spreadsheet of adjectives and epithets I’ve been adding to since last summer.

          • prixator

            I am curious if you have recorded one that could be considered positive (and not just neutral)?

            I have tried (granted, not very hard) to think of one positive trait or characteristic that he has exhibited or has been ascribed to him and have come up empty.

            He is just a very sad and sorry excuse for a human.

          • koolaidyarn

            Lucky? At least so far, for the most part.

          • Marionbwoody

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    • Adam King

      Children can be temperamental, self-centered, whiney and unreasonable, too. No need to idealize them.

    • William

      Written by Noyou Aren’t
      Illustrated by Yesi Yam.

    • narutomania

      While that particular article might have referred to him as a child, here in JMG most people refer to him as a “baby” because they are making reference to his nature as a big blob of need. When he isn’t sleeping (and when, exactly, does it sleep?), he is screaming (i.e. tweeting) and crying (i.e. whining about countless issues in the press and how “unfair” apparently everything in the world is) and shitting (i.e. ruining everything that he touches, for example sensitive intel from allies or EPA regulations or net neutrality rules, the list goes on).

      And then, I agree with BeccaM that we all have our epithets for this creature. I refuse to call it by its given name. So I’ll use whatever seem handy at the time.

      • Beagle

        Upvoted to show solidarity in referring to Dump as “it.”

    • Gerry Fisher

      “Infant” would be more accurate.

  • Max_1
    • anne marie in philly

      OMB! FABU!

  • Lazycrockett
    • Xuuths

      Interesting final paragraph.

  • Gustav2

    It’s certified mail! Isn’t that good enough?

  • AtticusP
  • boobert

    They want permission to lie ! Lawyers are scum. Once at a jury duty selection, I asked for a sidebar. I told the judge and the lawyers that I wouldn’t believe a thing they said. And when it came time to chose, I would just flip a coin. Guess what, they don’t give a damn, and I got picked anyway! lol

    • Gustav2

      They suspected you were trying to get out of serving.

      • Lars Littlefield

        Either that or surprised/impressed with your honesty.

      • boobert

        Partly true , but I spoke the truth. There is one sure fire way to get out of serving. The race card never fails. Many used it and were immediately dismissed. They started with nearly 90 people and were down to 20 when I got picked.

    • Tiger Quinn

      Because believing in luck or random chance isn’t a preconceived notion, it’s made “on the spot.” All they care about is whether you came in the door with baked in notions.

  • TrollopeReader

    to be fair, the lawyer thought they could use a “from the library of …” embossed stamp, so it would look “notarized” ….but then they remembered that The Donald doesn’t read ….. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/70ef4246b61ee8ee5d4a4b63f17ceae79c1d85136b992cc3f17a18e84f5bbf41.png

    • anne marie in philly

      bwhahahahahaha!

  • MikeBx2

    Has he left the country yet? Oddly I’ll feel better just knowing he’s out of our airspace for a few days.

    • netxtown

      I’m wondering if russia will shoot down another airliner and blame it on ukraine again.

  • Tom G

    Every day another adventure. When will a blood vessel give out in Trump’s orange noggin??

    • RoFaWh

      I want to see a photo (or, better, a video) of the orange asshole raging over some imaginary slight.

  • Rex

    I like presidents that are ethical.

    • Xuuths

      I prefer presidents who aren’t under federal investigation for non-partisan crimes.

  • I hope the motherfucker dies in prison.

  • ByronK
    • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

      Monica Cole’s head is sploding an average of three times a week now.

  • Blake J Butler

    Oh lawdy, these twats are at it again.

    Duggar Sisters Suing City for Releasing Molestation Documents.

    The lawsuit was filed by Jill Dillard, Jessa Sewald, Jinger Vuolo and Joy Duggar on May 18 in Fayetteville.

    The lawsuit claims that in 2006, they were interviewed about the molestation when they were minors and were told the documents would only be shared with police officials and child services.

    Keep in mind the guy, who was an officer that the parents sent their son to have a stern talking with, was caught with kiddie porn and is now serving time in prison.

    Now i guess we know some of the official victims Josh Duggar assaulted in his parents home, while his mother and father were bemoaning about LGBT people having equal rights in Fayetteville.

    http://www.nwahomepage.com/news/duggar-sisters-suing-city-for-releasing-molestation-documents/717112740

    • clay

      Seems like it would be Josh who would have to sue.

    • Tiger Quinn

      Well they need money now that their tv show is gone.

      • Blake J Butler

        Not exactly, the girls have their own show, where they basically cook, pretend to take care of their children, and pray.

        Those kids are basket cases and as for how boring and one dimensional they are, the show itself does a good reflection of that.

        Because they have nothing to offer, and TLC needed a money cow, so they gave them another show, it hasn’t been the juggernaut that the family show was with mom and dad, but this one may be getting the ax if advertisers stay away and the ratings go lower.

    • pj

      jinger?

  • Ernest Endevor

    I don’t understand. The letters were sent registered mail. How could they not be true?

    • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

      It cost EXTRA to send them!!

  • AJ Drew

    Huh. DT has a lawyer who focuses on “federal tax controversy matters.” Hmm.

    https://www.morganlewis.com/bios/sdillon

    Welcome out of the shadows, Sheri, hope you’re ready for it…

  • ByronK

    Hugh Hewitt is such a dildo. And not in a good way.

  • Dejerrity Mycron

    Sheri the Lawyer Lady sounds very shrill.

  • The_Wretched

    What attorney sits around the strategy table and goes, “maybe if we can submit without a signature, it won’t be perjury / fraud /unethical.”

  • SFBruce

    I wonder what kind of price Dillon and other attorneys who sell their soul on behalf of little Donnie’s unethical and immoral whims get for their efforts.

  • JCF