American Family Association: Gay Activists Are Bringing Back Slavery By Forcing Businesses To Serve Them

Last week a Kentucky appeals court ruled that it’s legal to refuse to serve LGBT customers in the name of Jesus. American Family Association radio host Bryan Fischer reacts:

For the government to force someone to do work that violates his conscience is nothing less than tyranny. And for a man to be compelled under threat of punishment to perform work against his will is slavery.

The reality is that the LGBT lobby is the reincarnation of some of the worst elements of the mindless prejudice of the Old South in its irrational venom toward people (Christians) who are not like them. The rainbow flag is the new Confederate flag. It is as much a symbol of bigotry as that flag ever was in the minds of the left.

Bottom line: in Frankfort, Kentucky, homosexual activists tried to reintroduce slavery to the Deep South. They failed in the attempt. And the Constitution’s protections for religious liberty and freedom of speech were upheld.

You may recall that among Fischer’s many batshit crazy claims is that the First Amendment only applies to Christians and that Native Americans are “morally disqualified” from owning property in the United States because they resisted being indoctrinated into Christianity.

  • Dutchlander

    The asshole has cancer. Almost makes me believe there is a god. Almost.

    • Ninja0980

      I believe in karma myself.

    • Paula

      If he has cancer it’s because he isn’t praying hard enough and jeebus hates him.

    • Uncle Mark

      My mama would say that most people get more sympathetic and less judgemental the closer they get to the “jumping-off place,” especially when they’re staring death in the face. Then she would look at this guy and call him a pathetic, decidedly ignorant, unrepentant ass.

      • Falconlights

        Kudos to our mama! That describes this jerk perfectly

    • I’m sorry to hear that poor cancer has to put up with him.

    • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

      Prostate cancer is a bad way to go. I’m good with that. I hope while he’s suffering, he considers the suffering he imposed on others.

  • Paula

    All of this bullshit over t-shirts and a friggin’ cake? Wow. πŸ™„πŸ™„πŸ™„πŸ™„πŸ™„πŸ™„πŸ™„

    • We’re crazy, immensely powerful.

    • Six Pins Delores

      It is good he is on radio. Bryan is a sick piece of work and I imagine whilst being in his presence, there is an subtle but overwhelming and distracting aroma of farts in the air

    • BlindBill

      you would think that they were being thrown to the lions …. selling cake and T-shirts to “a small population” of customers your holy book tells you are sinners, while happily serving all of the rest of the book defined “sinners”, is definitely a 1st world problem … truly woeful to those merchants making a profit off the people they choose to hate.

      • McSwagg

        We’re much worse than mere sinners to them. They gleefully declare us abominations worthy of death and deny that they are calling for violence. They see advocating for our death to be an “act of christain love” that they generously bestow upon us.

    • Uncle Mark

      Except at the end of the day, it’s not about t-shirts, flowers, or cake. It’s also about being denied medical care, service in a restaurant, bank, store, getting help from the police or fire dept. The moment a mere baker can deny service to an LGBT (or suspected LGBT) person, the moment any other person in any other profession can do the same. For example: last year there was a obstetrician, who denied treatment to a child because she did not approve of the lesbian mothers. What’s next an EMT, who refuses to rush a gay man to the hospital?

      Don’t be fooled; these fuckers want us to sound petty…as if it’s ONLY about cake & flowers, when it’s really about so much more !!

      • RemusL

        I was a pediatrician (looks after kids), I believe, not obstetrician (delivers babies).

        • Uncle Mark

          I stand corrected

    • safari

      I like her style.

    • JT
      • Joe in PA

        Caption: I eat people like you for breakfast.

        • Todd20036

          Line from Soylent Green?

          • Joe in PA

            You had to go literal didn’t you? πŸ™‚

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      • David

        Joan was a great actor, but a scary lady.

      • David

        Don’t fuck with me fellas!

  • That_Looks_Delicious

    Whoever draws the short straw in the slave alotment gets Bryan Fischer. No backsies.

  • Michael White

    My idea of a slave a 300lb woman in streatch pants blowing cigarette smoke at me while they take my order. or a bubba who can not speak a sentence where the noun and verb are in agreement, or the use of was for the second person./S

  • Sam_Handwich
  • ByronK

    Wow, there is absolutely no limit to the depths that these assholes will go. And he’s such a fucking racist, I’m sure he has not concept of how deeply offensive this crap is. All non-wingnut Christian organizations should refuse him service to everything and declare request for anything as tyranny.

  • O/T: I know people have been posting about this, but damn.

    It doesn’t get more self-incriminatory than this.



      Why? Because this is what professionals do. Especially when he’s the Director of the FBI.

    • Sam_Handwich
    • From same article– chilling.

      Alone in the Oval Office, Mr. Trump began the discussion by condemning leaks to the news media, saying that Mr. Comey should consider putting reporters in prison for publishing classified information, according to one of Mr. Comey’s associates.

      And blatantly unconstitutional.

      • Danieruw

        I wish every journalist or pundit or whatever on TV would blatantly ask any Repugnican why they hate America! Ask Sean Hannity why he hates America (in those words)! Ask Ann Coulter why she hates America! Ask all those assholes on The Five whose names I never bothered to learn why they fucking hate America! This is what the Fox “News” crew does to us! Turn it on them! Anyone who voted for Trump or defends him needs to be asked VERY SPECIFICALLY why they hate America! God I’m angry!

        (except there is no god; I am on JMG after all) πŸ™‚

  • madknits

    Kentucky is not the deep south, motherfucker.
    I live in the deep south. Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, that’s the deep south.
    If you are getting paid for a service, it isn’t slavery, motherfucker.

    I’d support lobotomies for Christstains, but it seems they’ve already had them.

    • Lars Littlefield

      I wouldn’t make a big deal about insisting your part of the “deep south” is more deep and more south than other parts of the deep south. Just sayin’ πŸ™‚

      • madknits

        I am a native New Englander, and I think that everything south of Manhattan is the south, everything south of New Jersey the deep south. I have been gently corrected by the natives of my new state. Repeatedly.
        (Though nothing will really make me give up the idea that everything south of Manhattan is really the south!)

        • Joe in PA

          I thought you lived in Cambridge/Boston.

          • madknits

            I did until about 15 months ago, when I moved to New Orleans to live with my boyfriend. I miss many things about Boston, but am very happy to be here with him. I still wear my Red Sox cap, and say “wicked” and “pissah” and refer to sweet fizzy drinks as “tonic”.

          • Joe in PA

            As you should. πŸ™‚

            I lived in Newport RI in the 70s for a year or so, and I visit friends in Newton all the time. I think Cape Cod is one of my all time favorite places on THE PLANET. Gawd forbid anything happens to hubs…but if it did…I’d be living in Provincetown or Wellfleet or maybe even Rockport.

        • Lars Littlefield

          Stay out of the Pine Barrens.

          • madknits

            I don’t know what that means.

          • Lars Littlefield

            Lookup Pine Barrens. An empty coastal plains of New Jersey (south of Manhattan). Getting corn holed and disappeared there is just as bad or worse than in back woods of Kentucky or the bayous of Louisiana.

          • Don_K

            OMFG, the pineys are nuts! (and I say that as someone who grew up in South Jersey and had many pineys as acquaintences)

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      Exactly. That’s like calling Iowa or Illinois the far North.

  • JT
  • Boreal
  • AtticusP


    If the Jesus that this asshole professes to believe in really existed, does anyone think that he would treat the LGBTQ community the way he and his fellow christo-fascists do?

    Fuck Bryan Fischer and the horse he rode in on.

  • Luther Kreiger

    It would require writing the equivalent of an entire set of Encyclopedia Bullshittica to even begin to unpack and then describe just how factually and morally wrong this infantile, flailing babbling is.

    I would call the pathetic ramblings these Christopaths have been reduced to now that so many of their old methods no longer work in order to try and sell their hatred as morality comically inept, but there are STILL way too many that actually believe this kind of linguistic vomit for that kind of dismissal to be safe.

  • HZ81

    Yes, because during slavery, the slaves made the owners work.

    Right-wing history majors rule. Or, not at all.

  • Lars Littlefield

    I foresee a Supreme court sort of upholding part of Kentucky’s nasty law, but only within the context of worship and church-related activities. The Public Accommodation stuff will override this nonsense with regard to being served at Dennys in our fabulous rainbow flag t-shirts and flip flops.

    • Talisman

      If rumors are true, then Kennedy is retiring at the of the term, and we’ve lost the SCOTUS.

    • Steverino

      Correct, which also means the law would be totally redundant since private accommodations (churches, religious organizations) already have this right. Symbolic only, completely unnecessary.

  • 2patricius2

    Just wait till we bring out the whips and the chains, Bryan baby…..

    Actually, Bryan’s comparison is revolting. To compare the way slaves were treated with the responsibility for merchants who serve the public, to serve all the public, is pathetic.

  • Cuberly

    You can’t violate what ya don’t have Brine Fish. Have you tried Lost and Found?

    • McSwagg

      I’ll go one better.

      You can’t violate what you never had. Looking in Lost and Found would be a waste of time.

  • That_Looks_Delicious

    OT – I don’t even know what to say….

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      So, basically…..


      • Todd20036

        More like: It’s such a shitshow, we’d be all over it like paint on a Picasso if Trump were a democrat.

        So instead we are going to drag it out until everyone forgets, and if it looks like it could affect our reelection chances, THEN we might do something.

    • Joe in PA

      THIS is the one commenting on Trump’s tiny dick? How about lil Marco’s tiny balls? Good grief. Fucking POS.

    • KnownDonorDad

      Doesn’t work so well if you’re not James Brown.

      • clay

        But he’s got ankle booties with Cha-Cha heels.

    • Hank
  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Honey, that’s not slavery, it’s called following the public accommodations laws. It says so, right there in that book you keep waving while yelling obscenities at gay people. Here, it’s right here:

    Romans 13 1-7: “13 All of you must yield to the government rulers. No one rules unless God has given him the power to rule, and no one rules now without that power from God. 2 So those who are against the government are really against what God has commanded. And they will bring punishment on themselves. 3 Those who do right do not have to fear the rulers; only those who do wrong fear them. Do you want to be unafraid of the rulers? Then do what is right, and they will praise you. 4 The ruler is God’s servant to help you. But if you do wrong, then be afraid. He has the power to punish; he is God’s servant to punish those who do wrong. 5 So you must yield to the government, not only because you might be punished, but because you know it is right.6 This is also why you pay taxes. Rulers are working for God and give their time to their work. 7 Pay everyone, then, what you owe. If you owe any kind of tax, pay it. Show respect and honor to them all.”

    Now shut the fuck up you tired old cretin.

  • rapscallion

    But he’s right!!!!…except for the facts that slaves were never allowed to own anything…were never paid a single cent….and were never asked about their religious affiliation by anyone…because they weren’t entitled to have one

    • thatotherjean

      Actually, none of those points is universally true. Some slaves were allowed to own various things, some were paid–not for their time, but their masters sometimes bought vegetables from the gardens their slaves were allowed to grow, or crafts that they produced on their own time, or part of the money their masters made from hiring them out to someone else–and some were encouraged to become Christians, with emphasis on passages encouraging slaves to obey their masters. The point isn’t that slaves weren’t ALLOWED to own things, or make money, or choose a religion–it’s that they weren’t ENTITLED to do so.

      • rapscallion

        Those are distinctions without a difference of the most offensive kind! You’re an apologist for black, chattel slavery by citing the rarest…and in some cases completely spurious…examples.
        Shame on you

        • thatotherjean

          Such distinctions were not particularly rare, and none of them are spurious. Some slaves were allowed to buy their freedom; where do you think the money came from? If you like, I can cite sources for my other examples.

          Nor am I an apologist for black chattel slavery; some slaves were treated reasonably, but a great many were not. All were denied freedoms their masters took for granted. My point was simply that everything depended on the whim of their masters: while some enslaved people were permitted the things I pointed out, none held them by right, and they could be denied their “privileges” at any time.

          • rapscallion

            riiiight. and we all miss the sound of the happy darkies whistling in the cotton fields. Just stop

            from the National Humanities Center,
            Opportunities for most enslaved African Americans to attain freedom were few to none. Some were freed by their owners to honor a pledge, to grant a reward, or, before the 1700s, to fulfill a servitude agreement. A few were bought by Quakers, Methodists, and religious activists for the sole purpose of freeing them (a practice soon banned in the southern states). Many ran away to free territory, and some of these “fugitives” succeeded in avoiding capture and forced to the South (see Theme II: ENSLAVEMENT: #8, Runaways, and Theme III: COMMUNITY: #7, Fugitives.)

            A rare option was “self-purchase” (the term itself revealing the base illogic of slavery).

          • thatotherjean

            We’re talking past each other. You were saying “absolutely none” and I was responding with “No, uncommon but possible.” I doubt that we will ever agree, though neither one of us supports slavery, in any form.

  • Bryan

    The appeals court did not rule that it’s legal to refuse service to LGBT customers. It ruled that the business owner couldn’t be forced to print t-shirts with a message he felt uncomfortable with.

    • lymis

      That’s the distinction the courts have to hammer on.

      If you sell it to anyone, you have to sell it to everyone. It’s the PRODUCT you can refuse to make or sell, not the customer you can refuse to sell to.

  • Uncle Mark

    Wait…what? Bryan Fischer in June 2015 claimed that the Confederate flag was a Democratic problem. So if the Rainbow flag is now equivalent to the Confederate flag as he says above, does this mean that he HATES the Confederate flag now, too? Does he now affirm to HATE the Confederacy and elements of the Old South that he now calls HATEFUL? Does this mean that he hates Southern Baptism that embraced slavery too? Can we assume that he will do all he can to empower the Black community?

    Gotta love these Christianista hypocrites. They reduce lawful business standards and requirements to SLAVERY. What o’bunch of goddam drama queens. If you want to equate that to slavery, perhaps we need to punish those failing to meet business requirements by throwing them in irons to work the fields. I know a certain bigoted Iowa Congressman, who would much prefer to have White people working Iowa fields than those “Mexicans with cantaloupe-sized thighs.” They can get close to god and his growing creation, under his burning sun, or cold rain, while getting a small inkling of what slavery’s about. Maybe, to add to their learning experience we can throw in some brutal beatings, rape, occasional murder, wretched housing, and substandard food.

  • Megrim Twist
  • ceeenbee

    I believe a more apt comparison would be white owned diners not allowing blacks as to be served. I know bry-bry would like to g back to those halcyon days but the world has moved on.

  • glass

    This fischer dude needs to learn how to do his ironing in the bathtub.

  • John Kusters

    It’s Federal law that businesses providing public accommodation can’t discriminate on the basis of sex, religion, race, and a handful of other criteria. Is that slavery too? Is he seriously advocating to overturn key civil rights legislation that’s been in place and working fairly successfully for decades?!?

    • Joe in PA

      In a word, yes.

      • clay

        definitely on sex and religion, and we can throw in national origin, as well.

      • Falconlights

        You can bet that if they get their way in regards to us LGBT people, they will extend it to other groups which hey find objectionable.

        • McSwagg

          I grew up as an Irish catholic in the south. I no longer embrace that ideology, but I remember well the vile scorn and slander that was spewed at me daily due to my ethnicity and my religion. They have always had nothing but hate for anyone different from themselves. In a word, they are evil.

  • JW Swift

    Ya’ know wut, Bri-bri? I’m OK with removing equal-access protections from the law books, as long as we remove ALL of them, including those against discriminating on the basis of religion. Just don’t start crying when businesses start refusing people from your church.

  • ceeenbee
    • clay

      Don’t you remember the slaves instituting Jim Crow laws?
      No, neither do I.

  • That_Looks_Delicious
  • vorpal 😼


    • Joe in PA

      I say proudly: BriBri is the first person to block me on Twitter. Sheesh, he really can’t take a little profanity. LOL

  • KnownDonorDad

    Oh right, refusing to accept gay money is just like enslavement. Remember when slaves in the U.S. turned down money for working on the plantations?

  • j.martindale

    Last I heard, slaves didn’t get paid standard wages for their services.

  • clay

    Yeah, yeah, yeah, and the courts aren’t going to overturn eminent domain anytime soon, either, ya moron. It is not slavery.

  • Silver Badger

    And exactly WHY ain’t this bleach boy out choppin cotton? We got us some firewood that needs chopping too. Sounds like this ol boy needs some learnin so’s he can speak proper to his betters!

  • Commentator8

    We’re persecuting you because we want to be treated the same way our hetero counterparts are

  • Hue-Man

    “…the LGBT lobby is the reincarnation of some of the worst elements of the mindless prejudice of the Old South in its irrational venom toward people (Christians) who are not like them.”

    I have no idea what this means but he should definitely avoid traveling to the Old South!

    • Uncle Mark

      The only elements of slavery I’ve seen in the LGBT community have been in the leather bars. I would suggest that someone strap him in a sling to see what gay slavery is all about, except EWWWWW.

      • Karl Dubhe

        I’ve seen worse things in slings. πŸ™‚

        • Mike_in_the_Tundra

          I haven’t, and I want to keep it that way.

  • Hank

    For the government to force someone to do work that violates his conscience is nothing less than tyranny…. HA!!!!

  • Joe in PA

    And his radio listeners are eating this up with a spoon.

    • Celloman G

      I would posit that they’re sucking it up with a straw. Lack of opposable thumbs and all.

  • Tomcat

    And don’t christians insist businesses serve THEM?

  • Wynter Marie Starr

    Come on over to my house and I’ll show you what it’s like to be a slave.

  • KaBoomBOX

    Not how it works. Not how any of this works.

  • Will Parkinson

    Yes, let’s bring out the chains and whips while we’re at it.

    • Joe in PA

      and @Todd20036:disqus makes a comment in 3…2…1….

      • Reality.Bites

        Not with that ball gag I put in his mouth.

  • Canadian Observer

    Hmmm, if this new “slavery of Christians” thing is exportable I’d like to place an order for a couple of field hands to dig the dandelions and assorted invasive weeds out of my lawn… I’m not overly picky, I figure if they are gagged at all times I won’t be bothered by them proselytizing, so no denominational exclusions apply. Given that it gets cold here at night (even in summer) would help if they were already carrying surplus weight cause I plan on keeping them in the garden shed.

  • JWC

    Hey digbat if we force you its Slavery if you force us what the fuck do you call that You ditwads refuse to see the other half

  • Ben in Oakland

    Is this the same Bribri that, when asked a direct question if he had ever had a homosexual thought, couldn’t say no, but had to say “Don’t Go There!”?
    I am asking only in the interests of full disclosure.

  • Karl Dubhe

    I’d be very happy to treat that man as if he were my property.

    Somehow, I don’t think the law would allow that. Pity.

  • pj

    were back in the lobby again.

  • Ernest Endevor

    and of course, the Bible was used as the chief moral authority supporting the South’s ‘peculiar institution’. But we all knew that.

  • coram nobis

    Sounds like he visited Mr. S Leather recently. A boutique that’s definitely into bondage and punishment.

  • KQCA
  • Girlgoon

    The gay army will enslave the straight people and put them in internment camps. We will use them as breeding stock to provide us gays with the children we can’t have.

  • Wesinoregon

    I keep leaning how much power we have from these people. Bring me a glass of iced tea Bryan.

  • Gerry Fisher

    Just like it was slavery to require Woolworth’s in the south to serve black people at the same lunch counter as white people. Or to require that you allow inter-racial couples to stay at your hotel.

  • TexasBoy

    Psssst…Bryan….just in case you’ve been under a rock for the last 60 years…you have to serve Blacks, Women, Asians, Hispanics, Jews, Muslims, and Buddhists now, too.

  • MBear


  • Michael

    I keep forgetting that landowners paid the slaves market value for their services. Now I can see the similarities.

  • Andymac3

    Trust the gays to bring back manners and civility and customer service. Aren’t we a giving lot.

    Happy to serve you Brian, you fu coff eh!

  • narutomania

    “Nazis …”
    “Socialists …”
    “Bringing back slavery …”

    What’s next? Did we also shoot J.R.? Are we the secret masterminds behind the hoax of the moon landing in 1969? Did we make the passenger pigeon AND the thylacine go extinct? Are we secretly keeping Elvis prisoner in an underground bunker with Hitler?

    Oy fucking veh.

  • fuzzybits

    Oh shut up,Gladys!!!

  • Nic Peterson

    What A Fuckwit.

    • Paula Key

      Why is he so obsessed with things gay….as if I have to ask!

  • andrew

    This is not a complicated issue. Don’t go into business, if you don’t want to serve the public.

  • Constant sadistic B&D imagery in his output. At first I thought I was imagining it, so I started reading him a bit more. Guy is a freak. Not that that per se is a bad thing. The sadism part is a turnoff bigtime.

  • Richard B

    Bryan Fisher’s inner bigot is overwhelming his judgement again.
    Consider, most interstate businesses welcome and support their LGBT customers.
    What if those very same businesses chose not to provide products or services to AFA members because they promote bigotry which is diametrically opposed those organization’s deeply held core values?
    What is good for the goose, should be good for the gander.
    Is this the world Bryan is asking for?
    When you start a public business, you have to serve the public.
    The 1950s are 60 years in the past and wail as he may, Bryan and his backwards looking ilk will never put the genie back into the bottle.
    Bryan needs to stop complaining, suck it up, and roll with the new times.

  • Gregory In Seattle

    And when someone refuses to serve Christians because it is against their religion….

  • CB

    It’s nice to be so powerful… /s

  • jonfromcalifornia

    “Irrational venom towards people who are not like them”??? Is this guy for real???

  • Jeffg166

    Getting paid for doing a job is slavery!

    • If getting paid for doing a job you don’t care for is slavery then i guess most of us are slaves.

  • DN

    So what is the term Brian would use when town council meetings are opened with prayer?

    Or when they advocate to force public schoolchildren to participate in teacher-led religious activity?

    Oh and also – did Brian just admit the confederate flag is hateful? Interesting, that…

  • OrangeJesus

    I’ll never be your beast of burden.

  • Nah Brian, slavery is when you aren’t paid and you can’t quit your job or they hunt you down and kill you.

    This is just called ‘a contract.’

  • “And for a man to be compelled under threat of punishment to perform work against his will is slavery.”

    That is not the definition of slavery at all, Brian. But It is sexist to say man/his.

  • Friday

    So, apparently when yer religion worships a scapegoat for centuries, you end up projecting your faults and misdeeds so hard you end up a hatemongering, pathetic clown over retail cake frosting sales. It’s pretty funny that so many Christians keep feeling more and more ‘enslaved’ by repeating one single case of nearly having to frost a cake or people they hate over and over. |

    Or could these hate preachers be just trying to incite pogroms?

  • Stubenville

    Do you even understand what slavery is, you doddering fool?

  • Robert Adams

    I had to pay a parking ticket last week. Just like everything else I am forced to do by by a tyrannical government, it was bringing back slavery. After all, i was parked on a public street paid for by my tax dollars.

    But I guess i shouldn’t complain considering how well off slaves were, according to the Right .

  • Etranger

    Slavery involved denying humans any human rights and dignity. It involved splitting families. It involved forced, unpaid, labor. It involved physical denigration of a race of people. Gay folks are asking to receive services or goods for which they are paying. Yeah, I see the similarities…./s

  • Fissure is still as Bizarro as usual – these sad “religious freedom” rulings relating to businesses refusing to serve LGBTQ people because of so-called “sincerely held beliefs” are just the first step toward returning to racial segregation – especially in the South, where there are bound to be white restaurant owners who will refuse to serve persons of color because they believe that whole “Children of Ham” story from Genesis applies to black folks,and it would violate their beliefs to serve people who ought to be slaves by biblical injunction.

    The fact that he accuses LGBTQ people of somehow trying to impose slavery? Totally BIZARRO, and truly a matter of Fissure projecting his own twisted and evil motivations on others.

  • Fred L Anthony

    Considering the source of the claim only some Christian zealots would actually believe this line I guess AFA thinks only they are exempt from following federal laws against discrimination against others but if they have to follow that very law they are being persecuted and being made into slaves I guarantee if someone refused service to them because f their religion they would sue