Ex-Gay Torture Industry Group Files FTC Complaint Alleging “Fraudulent Testimony” By Their Own Victims

Back in early 2016 the SPLC filed a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission against the New Jersey-based ex-gay torture group People Can Change, alleging that the group’s practices constitute consumer fraud. It’s not clear why it’s taken them so long, but this week the ex-gay torture industry filed an answering complaint. From the anti-LGBT hate group C-FAM:

A complaint to the Federal Trade Commission denounces the “lies, deception, and fraud” of the Southern Poverty Law Center, the Human Rights Campaign, and the National Center for Lesbian Rights for their efforts to ban therapy for those who want to leave the homosexual life.

More than sixty licensed therapists, psychiatrists, and physicians who practice sexual orientation change therapy, alongside more than a thousand clients and their families, filed the complaint, entitled “In Their Own Words,” at the National Taskforce for Therapy Equality. They asked the Federal Trade Commission to act against the LGBT groups for engaging in “unfair and deceptive acts and practices” in violation of federal law.

“We have documented dozens of examples of fraudulent testimony in state legislatures, including videos of activists lying in court,” said Christopher Doyle, Co-Coordinator of the National Task Force for Therapy Equality.

LGBT groups have falsely accused mental health practitioners of torturing and shaming youths and adults who experience same-sex attraction, or gender dysphoria, through moral intimidation, electro-shock therapy, and other “aversion” therapies designed to coerce changes in behavior through pain or moral intimidation. Doyle says these charges are complete fabrications.

The SPLC’s complaint against People Can Change came because the group allegedly failed to change its practices despite a 2015 fraud ruling against New Jersey-based ex-gay torture outfit JONAH, which has since disbanded.

  • Tawreos

    It looks like there is a group that is upset that their dirty little secret torture sessions are getting out into the world. If that happens they may have to start treating gays like they were people or something.

  • fuzzybits

    I remember hearing about JONAH in the 90’s. A newsgroup I posted on had a couple people who were their advocates. It’s hard to believe this crap is still going on.

  • SunsetGay

    Murderers: “How dare you sue us for murdering your friends, family and loved ones! We are suing you for you suing us for murdering people!”

    • Nowhereman

      And for heaven’s sake, don’t hurt the murderers fee fees!

  • Nowhereman

    You’d think that these modern day Inquisition practitioners would just strike their tents and scurry off down the back alleys to the Dark Ages where they belong. I hope they lose every penny they ever made off of their acts and then some.

  • barrixines

    Oh it’s that fucked up Mary, Doyle again. So bitter because her hair left the homosexual lifestyle twenty years before she did.

    • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

      It’s a shame, because these days bald is in.

      • barrixines

        Indeed. Only about four hairs left on my head – nothing against bald men at all. I’d just run out of ways to point out that he’s a self confessed kiddy fiddler.

  • bkmn

    Gee, this might open PCC up to discovery by the opposing counsel. Hope this comes back to expose them for the frauds they are.

    • Nowhereman

      I’m surprised they’d want their secrets examined in a court of law. I’m with you–I hope they find even MORE stuff to charge them with.

  • The_Wretched

    CFAM might get hit with anti-SLAPP in return if they are not careful.

  • Ninja0980

    Conversion “therapy” is nothing more then torture and it’s not a lie for people who have gone through it to say so.

    • Blake Jordan

      Torture for profit… that last part is key…

    • MarkOH

      Exactly. And, instead of stamping your feet like a 3 year old, Mr. Doyle, why not show the SCIENTIFIC PROOF of what you claim. Oh, that’s right, because there ISN’T ANY.

  • EdmondWherever

    If you want to “leave the homosexual life”, then just don’t suck a dick! Is it that difficult?

    • Nowhereman

      What? “So if you want to leave the heterosexual life, just don’t have sex with the opposite sex! It’s that simple!”…I see you don’t really have an account. Did you get lost on your way from Breitbart?

      • EdmondWherever

        Who… me? I love to suck a dick, especially my hubby’s. Never had heterosexual sex in my life. My Disqus acct is more than 7 years old. Not sure what you mean.

        I just think it’s ridiculous for these “ex-gay” folks to be so up-in-arms as if someone is preventing them from not sucking a dick.

        • Jonathan Smith

          you got to fight for your right…to SUCK DICK!

          • madknits

            I think it scans better if it goes
            You got to fight
            For your right
            To SUCK COOOOOOOOCK!!!

          • Jonathan Smith

            i stand corrected…. 🙂

        • TheKingOfRhye
        • Reality.Bites

          It really doesn’t take much effort to see if someone has a pattern before accusing them of trolling.

          • EdmondWherever

            Ok, but I think you’ve misjudged me. I’m a gay, atheist, tree-hugging, Hillary-voting liberal Democrat. I’ve been to Breitbart a handful of times, for laughs, or for the shock value. I just don’t understand these “ex-gays” who seem to need help in not sucking dicks. I don’t know what “pattern” you think you see in my comments, but I assure you my snark is directed at the subject of Joe’s post, not at the community here, of which I consider myself a member.

    • barrixines

      But they’re so more-ish.

      • EdmondWherever

        And ballsy.

  • David L. Caster

    Quackery is illegal in the US.

    • fuzzybits

      Tell most everyone who goes on faux news.

    • The_Wretched

      Actually…it is. SPLC won a fraud case, it wasn’t an antiquackery case nor was it an action by the attorneys general (which is where an antiquackery case would have to come from). We also have acupuncture, ‘bottom steaming’, kombucha, reiiki and a host of other pseudoscience nonsense that is generally non-actionable.

      • Tawreos

        I think you meant “steaming hot bottom’ and since when is that a bad thing?

      • David L. Caster

        What you say is true. Claiming however that being gay is an illness and claiming that it can be cured is effectively quackery even if practiced by an alleged medical practitioner. There is no ICD-10 code for homosexuality because it is not classified as an illness.

        We both know that the government has a compelling interest in the protection of children (as in minors) and all recognized professional medical associations have come down on the side of gay children and adults.

        • The_Wretched

          I agree that the ‘therapy’ they are providing is quackery – worse, it’s torture that increases misery and suicide rates of a the ‘patients’.

    • Blake Jordan

      If that was true, why do rethuglicans get away with so much…

      • David L. Caster

        Well, I wrote “quackery” not hackery. Republicans are opportunistic hacks. And they get away with things because the people that should know better let them.

    • ByronK

      It’s now governing the US.

      • David L. Caster

        Very low quality hacks are going through the motions of governing but not actually governing at all.

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  • blackstar
    • Ginger Snap

      blackstar you just made my night. Time to drag the fuck machine out and dust it off for the weekend, LOL!

  • IAMBOWLINGGREEN

    And they call themselves ‘mental health practitioners’ … ‘Enjoyers of eugenics’ would be a better title.

    • Nowhereman

      They should be outlawed.

  • OhSoGood

    It’s thought that one of the leading causes of alopecia is extreme stress…

    One has to wonder how all this denial Christopher Doyle lives with has contributed.

    Not the greatest spokesperson for healthy change.

    • Paula

      Radiation does that, too.

      • OhSoGood

        Doyle’s condition is known to be alopecia… it’s not a secret.

        • Joseph Miceli

          Paula’s right. He’s a mutant.
          #alternatefacts

  • Lizard

    “The National Taskforce for Therapy Equality…”

    Whoa whoa whoa whoa. WHOA.

    Therapy equality?!

    Okay, new rule. I’m not allowed to keep Christians who believe in the torture that is gay conversion “therapy” in my basement, deprive them of food and light, and tape their eyelids open while they watch LGBT activism videos. “Therapy equality,” bitches!

    • Jonathan Smith

      Damn. take all of the fun out of Friday Nights.

      • Lizard

        It’s 1 pm where I am and I need a reason to get wrecked. Don’t judge me.

        Not that I need another reason after everything Cheetolini has done this week.

  • 2patricius2

    “Therapy Equality”? Is that like “equality” to push cyanide as a medicine?

    • The_Wretched

      Just keep your mind open to how cyanide could improve your health and bring your closer to jesus. /s

      • Joseph Miceli

        Are you seeking funding to bring your message to “ex-gay” “therapists?” If so, I’ll donate.

      • licuado de platano

        Ask your therapist if suicide is right for you

    • Halou

      Fox says “fair and balanced”.
      RT says “question more”.

      I bet Therapy Equality doesn’t offer straight-to-gay conversion.

  • fuzzybits
  • fuzzybits
    • Todd20036

      Beautiful young man. Would have been a beautiful young woman.

      Her parents deserve to be harassed into oblivion

    • Halou

      I remember her parents got the name wrong at the funeral and erased half her life just so they could avoid feeling the shame and guilt for what they did.

  • Oppressors always make their feelings more paramount to our lives. And it works. So many “reasonable”folks think we ought to hear these anti-LGBT extremists out because they have bought the narrative of false neutrality.

  • Sam_Handwich

    omg Sarah Huckabee Sanders is filling in for Sphincter today

    • fuzzybits

      I could say comedy relief,but….

  • Paula

    Fuck off, you post-apocalyptic mutant.

    • Joseph Miceli

      Seriously. I can just picture him taking off his mask as he worships the bomb and chowing down on some Soylent Green.

  • Nic Peterson

    The treatment didn’t work and the patient says so, but blame the patient and impugne their credibility. F-ing great.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    Fraudulent testimony = They told the truth and we don’t like it.
    I guess they are running with the whole “Fake News” fad.

    • Michael C

      Actually, there was one person who likely lied about a personal experience with conversion therapy at a public hearing regarding a New Jersey bill to ban such therapies for minors in 2013.

      One person.

      …but it was a really, really big deal, yo.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    The National Taskforce for Therapy Equality is to Psychology
    AS
    Blood Letting is to Antibiotics.

    • Ben in Oakland

      I think “as dying is to living” is more appropriate.

  • Gaymurcan

    The scars still hurt 30 years later. Arrest, charge and convict every single “practitioner,” parent and “preacher” sending children and others through the doors of hell. Send the victims to APA certified therapy Only, to recover from physical, emotional trauma, abuse, coercive indoctrination. Everyone else involved – prison.

  • Bluespiral58

    He looks like Uncle Fester.

  • “National Taskforce for Therapy Equality”? Seriously?

  • nipper

    The right just loves to eat their own young don’t they?

  • LovesIrony

    fucking yourself with a dildo instead of a real cock doesn’t make you straight chris.

  • Ginger Snap

    I’m sorry fucking your new wife or GF then getting your cock sucked by the likes of a man like me at a rest area does not make you a heterosexual or a cured homosexual. I’m just speaking from experience.

  • It doesn’t work. And like any other good or service, claiming that it does is fraud. Also lying under oath or even on some government documents is a crime and the people who did so should be prosecuted along with everyone who encouraged them to do so.