ALABAMA: Gov. Kay Ivey Signs Bill Allowing Religious Adoption Agencies To Refuse Same-Sex Couples

AL.com reports:

Gov. Kay Ivey today signed into law a bill allowing adoption agencies in Alabama to follow faith-based policies, such as not placing children with gay couples. “The elected legislature of this state overwhelmingly approved House Bill 24. Having served as President of the Senate for more than six years, I appreciate the work of the legislature, and I agree with it on the importance of protecting religious liberty in Alabama,” Ivey said.

The House of Representatives last week gave final approval to the bill by a vote of 87-0, with six abstentions, concurring with a change the Senate made when it approved the bill. “I ultimately signed House Bill 24 because it ensures hundreds of children can continue to find ‘forever homes’ through religiously-affiliated adoption agencies. This bill is not about discrimination, but instead protects the ability of religious agencies to place vulnerable children in a permanent home,” the governor added.

The bill is limited to agencies that don’t receive state or federal funding.

The Human Rights Campaign reacts:

“We are deeply disappointed that the legislature and the governor took on this unnecessary, discriminatory bill instead of focusing on how to improve the lives of all Alabamians, no matter who they are or whom they love,” said Eva Kendrick, HRC Alabama state director. “The intent of this law is clear: to discriminate, causing the most harm to children in Alabama’s child welfare system. It’s time our lawmakers — from the legislature to the Governor’s Mansion — stop using LGBTQ people as pawns to win cheap political points.”

  • teedofftaxpayer

    i think the Supreme Court going to have a whole bunch of Same Sex couple cases before long. These right wing dipshits think they can force their religious beliefs on everyone.

    • Todd20036

      With Grouch on SCOTUS, I’m not so certain we won’t be thrown under the bus

      • Ninja0980

        That is my fear.

    • Tomcat

      And with the SCOTUS we have now, they can.

      • Bad Tom

        No. They need one more change.
        But Lord Dampnut is running out the clock much faster than they anticipated.

  • Bryan

    “‘This bill is not about discrimination, but instead protects the ability of religious agencies to place vulnerable children in a permanent home,’ the governor added.”

    Nice try.

    • CanuckDon

      These people are goddamn, fucking cowards…hit then run and hide.

      From 1969 and still remains true today….
      “Go ahead and hate your neighbour
      Go ahead and cheat a friend
      Do it in the name of heaven
      You can justify it in the end”

      • jaydee5000

        OMG Billy Jack!!!!!!!!

    • Tom Mears

      One assumes the Catholics will dutifully refuse to let Jews, Muslims, 7th Day Aventists, LDS, etc. adopt as well. After all of these groups are considered apostates or at least in opposition to many tennants of Catholicism. Ditto for adoption agencies run by the Southern Baptists, Methodists, etc.

      • Chucktech

        No, “those people” will be fine. There’s no homo stuff so it’s all good.

  • FAEN

    A-You look like a fat slag at a pie bake off.

    B-You can try and get rid of us but we are NOT going anywhere!

    C-See you in court MOFO!

  • Bluto

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  • Lazycrockett

    Here’s to a slick spot on the road you drive home on.

  • jimbo65
    • houstonray

      LMAO! That is awesome!!!!!

    • Dagoril

      Font choices are important, people!! 😉

  • Tomcat

    Best to get babies from blue states, the red states only adopt crack babies.

    • Lazycrockett

      and you cant get the inbred out of them no matter how patient you are.

    • Paula

      I thought it was meth babies?

  • Moebym Reborn

    If you refuse to consider suitable same-sex households in determining where to place vulnerable children, then you’re placing religious dogma ahead of children’s welfare.

    It’s really that simple.

    • Librarykid

      and they don’t give a good God Damn about children’s welfare when it gets in the way of creating hateful laws to punish people they hate because they are hate-filled people.

    • Chucktech

      Not to mention, aiding and abetting child abuse by making it more likely they’ll be exposed to the poison of religion.

  • kaydenpat

    These laws hurt children.

    • John Ruff

      Southerners are great at that!

    • Natty Enquirer

      It’s not about the children. It’s about making other people obey the dictates of your superstition.

    • coram nobis

      That’s the other class singled out for less-than-equal protection under the law, not just the prospective LGBT parents. Wonder how many kids wind up not getting placement?

  • John Ruff

    Does the stupid, old, fat fucking hag feel better now? Fucking bitch.

    • Ross

      I second your fury.

    • Cackalaquiano

      I’m not sure how you feel about her. Can you be less ambiguous? 😉

    • Chucktech

      Now that she has a state full of religious crackers nodding their heads with a hearty “Well, a-MAY-en” she feels just fine, thank you.

  • coram nobis

    We’ll see you in court.

    THE COURT: Counsel will make opening statement.
    PLAINTIFF’s COUNSEL: “Laws singling out a certain class of citizens for disfavored legal status or general hardships are rare. A law declaring that in general it shall be more difficult for one group of citizens than for all others to seek aid from the government is itself a denial of equal protection of the laws in the most literal sense.” Romer v. Evans. We move for summary judgment against Defendants, with prejudice, your Honor.
    THE COURT: Granted. Court adjourned.

    • ChrisMorley

      There are at least 20 private adoption agencies in Alabama to sue.
      http://www.adopting.com/al-domestic.html

      • coram nobis

        It’s a case where you find one plaintiff, and if the agencies are operating under cover of state authority, you sue the principal (and I spell ‘principal’ deliberately). Get rid of the state law by injunction and the problem abates.

        Of course, absent a state policy and an agency acts on its own you have a private action.

  • Just imagine the same thing not that many years ago:

    Gov. Kay Ivey today signed into law a bill allowing adoption agencies in Alabama to follow faith-based policies, such as not placing children with mixed-race couples.

    Or:

    Gov. Kay Ivey today signed into law a bill allowing adoption agencies in Alabama to follow faith-based policies, such as not placing children with non-Christian couples.

    Or:

    Gov. Kay Ivey today signed into law a bill allowing adoption agencies in Alabama to follow faith-based policies, such as not placing white children with black couples or vice versa.

    • Natty Enquirer

      All of those things are now officially condoned in Alabama. Just click your rosary beads three times and say “it’s my religion, it’s my religion, it’s my religion.”

      • Cackalaquiano

        Rosary beads? Not in Alabama.

        • Natty Enquirer

          Oops. How about white shoes before Labor Day?

        • ChrisMorley

          Yes, even in Alabama
          6 Catholic Adoption Agencies are detailed here

          http://www.adopting.com/al-domestic.html

          • Cackalaquiano

            I definitely know there are Catholics in the South. Outside of Louisiana, though, Catholicism is still exotic and misunderstood.

      • Bad Tom

        Thump your Bible!, and Shout!

    • Vista-Cruiser

      Expect to see those things not many years from now.

  • SoCalGal20

    “Forever homes”. So children are shelter pets now?

    • coram nobis

      More like Pet Rocks.

    • It’s been a long-standing, generations-old fundamentalist Christian attitude that children are literally property.

      Give ’em a few years and they’ll regress that to include women as chattel property again, too.

      • SoCalGal20

        The Handmaid’s Tale here we come!

        • djcoastermark

          I have thought this for quite some time now. Margret Atwood, Author of the book, won the Arthur C Clarke award, Prometheus Award and Nebula Award to name a few. All Sci Fi. But as I have always said, it isn’t sci fi, it is a predictor of what is to come. And, it seems as if it is coming on full strength.

      • Ninja0980

        It’s happening as we speak in red states.
        Religion is poison, simple as that.

    • Librarykid

      Forever home is a rough translation of the the Hebrew Beit Olam, eternal home, which is the term for cemetery.

      This reasoning is implying that same-sex couples do not have permanent marriages. The reverse is actually closer to the truth with hetero divorce rates being higher than same-sex divorce rates.

  • geoffalnutt

    OT – It’s interesting to note that with all the storms and catastrophic flooding in the south/west…there will be crickets from the federal government. Just crickets from now on.

    • Bad Tom

      After awhile, even the southern states will start to notice this.

      Trump will have his own Katrina. His inept Administration, combined with the climate change he doesn’t believe in, guarantee that.

  • SoCalGal20
  • Ninja0980

    This is the sad reality in many red states.
    One bigot is simply replaced by another.
    Kay Ivey is just as much of a vile and hateful bigot as the man she replaced and the man who is now our AG etc.
    Alabama does have good people like Patricia Todd but by and large, the people in power are hateful, vile people, simple as that.

    • Bad Tom

      They represent their constituents well.

  • j.martindale
  • SoCalGal20

    OT but Jason’s going to be in the House tomorrow.

    https://twitter.com/scottwongdc/status/859915087150186502

    • -M-

      I’m having some doubts about his medical excuse.

  • -M-

    Once again: Legalizing religious discrimination like this is the opposite of protecting religious liberty.

  • Robincho

    They’re makin’ ’em mighty, um, mannish in the old Ivey-covered halls these days…

    • MBear

      PLEASE pass the brain bleach.
      No one, and I repeat *NO ONE* wants to think about her ‘Ivey-covered halls’.

      really…ew

  • andrew

    Any religious affiliated adoption agency, that receives taxpayers money, should be prohibited from discriminating against people based on race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, nationality etc.. If they want to protect their religious liberty to discriminate, all they have to do is to refuse to take taxpayer monies to run their discriminatory programs.

    • David L. Caster

      The bill is limited to agencies that don’t receive state or federal funding.

      Nevertheless, the law should not have been enacted.

      • lymis

        The question also has to include where they are getting the children.

        That’s left out of this discussion far too often. Because in a lot of cases, these religious adoption agencies are placing wards of the state, not just infants from unwed mothers of their own religion or orphans of the faithful.

        So it’s entirely possible that a child who has no religious beliefs, or has a religious belief other than that of the agency, or who is themselves LGBT, will be forced into a “forever family” that is pretty much guaranteed to force them into a religion they wouldn’t have followed otherwise.

        So any adoption agency who receives state or federal funding, but also any adoption agency who receives state or federal assistance in getting children to place needs to be prohibited from discriminating.

        • David L. Caster

          This is s very good point. I’m glad you brought this up.

  • Paula Key

    Always looking at their religious base instead of looking at the happiness of orphans. They refuse to do research that shows – way beyond any doubt that adoptions by gay couples are as good as, and in many bases better, than straight adoptions. European gays have been adopting for years and there is ample research. Horrible ‘Christians.’

    • -M-

      It’s my understanding that the US while trailing many countries on a number of gay rights issues (including being late to the party on marriage equality) was ahead of the curve regarding adoption.

      France for example if I recall correctly despite legalizing same-sex marriage doesn’t grant such couples equal rights to adopt children or use assisted reproduction such as in vitro fertilization or gestational surrogates.

  • mjcc1987

    Won’t stand in court

  • BearEyes

    Looking forward to the court challenge.
    An establishment of religion must not stand!

  • Henry Auvil

    How did the Church Lady become a governor?

  • Blake J Butler
    • M Jackson

      Are all those gay kids of preachers in Florida going to fit in Delray?

  • jpinphx

    Kay..Kay..Kay… Glad you are willing to spend the next 6 months in court.

  • fuzzybits

    Always trying to make gay folk out to be monsters and spooks. Well,boo bitch!

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  • GayOldLady

    The children most effected by this will be older and hard to place children. These people are despicable

  • Treant

    See you in court, bitch.

  • Helen Damnation 🍑™

    Unconstitutional. Will they ever learn? Will Trump?

  • Gigi

    I look forward to the day when these old bigots die off. Talibangelists love to shove their religious beliefs down our throats but when it’s pointed out that their so-called “deeply held religious beliefs” are discriminatory and hateful, they cry PERSECUTION!!!!!

  • ‘Til Tuesday

    It’s Alabama – the next worst state in America (Mississippi being the absolute fucking worst). And Gov. Ivey is as far right as you can get. Alabama is still teed off over the end of segregation. Women’s rights are a good 50-75 years away in ‘Bama. And gay rights are a good 75-100 years away from being considered in Alabama.

  • Michael R

    For this idiotic religious freedom concept to work they have to decide on one exact religion with a very specific set of rules , which will never happen .

    • Friday

      The Christianists’ idea of ‘religious freedom’ is as Orwellianly-backwards as how they use the words ‘Love’ ‘Liberty’ ‘Charity’ or ‘University.’

    • Tor

      What if the MCC had an agency that would not adopt to straight people?

  • Mikey

    if you have to start by saying “this law isn’t about discrimination” then that law is absolutely about discrimination.
    if it wasn’t about discrimination the topic wouldn’t even pop up.
    stupid old sow.

  • Rebecca Gardner
    • Tor

      “The bill is limited to agencies that don’t receive state or federal funding.”

      Name three agencies that do no receive funding. This law is all about show. No teeth.

      I hope.

  • olandp

    It sounds ok to me…

    “The bill is limited to agencies that don’t receive state or federal funding.”

    Their church can do whatever they want as long as they don’t take taxpayer money. (Catholic Charities had to not discriminate or give up taxpayer funding, so they just shut down.)

    • customartist

      No. This also defies the rights of both the child and the potential adoptive parents.
      This is NOT OK.

  • daveinatl

    It’s well known in Alabama that Kay Ivey is lesbian. Aunt Tom

    • M Jackson

      Seriously? She should limit her hatred to just herself.

      • coram nobis

        No it’s the “wide stance” of closet kapos, from Roy Cohn to innumerable in/out GOP since then, down to Princess Lindsey. We can deal with our enemies, but FSM save us from our lavender quislings … !

  • Nychta

    Were I a tadpole in Alabama I would so want to be placed in a loving home – parents’ sex/gender configuration a non issue – than placed in a christianist-approved hell hole.

    • Friday

      Somewhere not in Alabama comes to mind, generally.

      • Librarykid

        The very soil and water in the former slave states are cursed with the tears and blood of oppressed people. It is similar to the curse on the soil and water in Europe and Russia for the centuries of church-sponsored anti-Semitism. There is something in the Bible about visiting the sins of the fathers onto the children for generations.

  • Rocco

    I expect the rabid Republicans to hate me and to consistently work against my interests and civil rights. I don’t expect the Democrats to help them. It reminds me of my (I am older) youth, spent mostly in red states, feeling very alone in overwhelmingly hostile territory…87-0? Smh…

  • What I want to know is whether any of these adoption agencies are getting tax dollars.

    • andrew

      Good question. I do know that many religious organizations receive government monies to help them carry out their charitable and social services works.

      • Tor

        Probably most, if not all. The law is for show.

    • jmax

      From the article:
      The bill is limited to agencies that don’t receive state or federal funding.
      I hope that’s true.

      • David L. Caster

        It’s supposed to be true. The state legislature may try to push through a law granting financial aid to these religious organizations later though.

      • customartist

        They simply form different corporations, and then share proceeds between the two, or three, etc. Dont be fooled. Money makes everyone cheat, even the “holy”.

        • jmax

          My last sentence was meant as a bit of sarcasm. I’m sure the religious organizations, and elected officials who back them, will find a way to scam money from the government and taxpayers.

  • bkmn

    A reminder that our friends at ACLU, Lambda Legal, NCLR and others can use your financial assistance if you can afford it.

  • Happy_Housewife

    What would that old bat do if the legislature passed a law saying that women can’t hold elected office?

    • Chucktech

      “That’s wut it say-ez in the bah-bull…”

  • Paula Key

    Gov. Kay Ivey: You are going for the religious vote instead of caring for children. “Suffer the little children to come unto me.” Here is some research, maybe someone will pass it on to you.

    Public Adoption by Gay and Lesbian Parents in North Carolina: Policy and Practice

    Gail Kenyon, visiting instructor1, Kerry-Ann Chong, case manager2, Melanie Enkoff-Sage, social service practitioner3, Clifton Hill, renal social worker4, Carrie Mays, clinical social worker5, Lauren Rochelle, therapist6

    http://familiesinsocietyjournal.org/doi/abs/10.1606/1044-3894.138?code=afcf-site

    1 School of Social Work, East Carolina University, Room 213 Ragsdale Bldg., Greenville, NC, 27858

    2 Comprehensive Treatment Support Program, North Carolina Department of Health and Human Services

    3 San Bernardino County, CA

    4 Fresenius Medical Care, Greeneville, NC

    5 Broughton Hospital, Specialty Services, Morganton, NC

    6 Brynn Marr Behavioral Health Care, Jacksonville, NC

    *********************************************************************

    A National Study

    David M. Brodzinsky PhD , Charlotte J. Patterson PhD & Mahnoush Vaziri BA

    Pages 5-23 | Received 02 Apr 2001, Accepted 13 Nov 2001, Published online: 11 Oct 2008

    Download citation http://dx.doi.org/10.1300/J145v05n03_02

    *******************************************************************************

    JOURNAL ARTICLE

    Gay Marriage, Same-Sex Parenting, and America’s Children

    William Meezan and Jonathan Rauch

    The Future of Children

    Science Direct http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0049089X12000610%20on%20the%20psychological%20impact%20of%20same-sex%20parenting.

    *********************************************************************************

    Title:

    Adoption and Foster Care by Gay and Lesbian Parents in the United States

    Author:

    Gates, Gary J, Williams Institute,

    UCLA School of Law;

    Badgett, M.V. Lee, Williams Institute, UCLA School of Law;

    Macomber, Jennifer Ehrle, The Urban Institute;

    Chambers, Kate, The Urban Institute

    https://escholarship.org/uc/item/2v4528cx UCLA School of Law

    • Friday

      I think Christians take that quote to mean, “Make little children suffer until they ‘come to Jesus.’ “

      • customartist

        Jesus was not coercive, but sadly his people are

    • Chucktech

      Hay-el, ”at’s awl that fancy book lernin stuff…

  • Snarkaholic

    PING!!!!!

  • Circ09

    I want to know how many adoption agencies operate in Alabama that don’t receive any kind of Fed or State funding. I can’t imagine there would be many. All the Catholic charities I know of love their government funding, for example.

    • Tor

      Right. Seems the law is all bull and no pasture.

  • netxtown

    All twat and all heifer.

  • mark99k

    Just so we’re clear, this was approved 87 to 0. Don’t anyone start that standard drippy lecture about how misunderstood the South is.

    • customartist

      The South is not only the Alabama legislature, FYI

      • kareemachan

        No, but they are damned exemplary of it.

        (And if that’s not the word I want, I can’t think of the right one right now)

  • HappyDance904

    I think straight Christian people should be sued on the basis that they are causing children to believe in the supernatural existence of something that may or may not be there, thus warping their minds into a mashed potato state of existence believing that if they do something wrong they will have eternal damnation in a well of fire. I think that is definitely something that needs psychological treatment!!! #poorchristiankids #believeinmywayorbedeniedfamily #christianreparativetherapy

    • HappyDance904

      PS run on sentence for the win!!

    • Chucktech

      Perhaps if grown children who survived being poisoned with gawd started suing their god besotted parents these people would be on notice. It would be another juicy black eye for religion.

  • david fairfield

    Alabama. That’s all.

  • Tor

    The bill is limited to agencies that don’t receive state or federal funding.

    I don’t think they were affected at all anyway.

    • customartist

      Explain the second sentence please?

      • kareemachan

        I also, too would like that explained.

  • SDG

    You know, maybe it’s about FUCKING TIME that LGBT people start FLEEING these states, en masse? Like a fucking LGBT underground railroad. Seriously! LGBT’s have been fleeing the 3-rd world for decades (probably centuries), it’s time we realize that your life is more important than you wallet. You are a refugee. Time to leave your village, and your family, and flee for your life to places that are safer.

    It may sound crazy… but, what is the other choice? Fight? We have 0 power now. Stay and wait it out? Because life for gays in Alabama is going to get better? No.

  • leastyebejudged

    religion is big (tax free) business !

  • jonfromcalifornia

    I say, [email protected]#k off to the “faith based” adoption agencies that discriminate against qualified LGBT folks. If you want to adopt a child, make sure you go to a SECULAR based adoption agency. Who needs these [email protected]#king hypocrites.

  • customartist

    So, the Church divides off their adoption services as a seperate not-for-profit to comply with the law, the church continues to accept govt funding for all of its OTHER charitable services, and all of the remaining entities transfer/donate to the adoptive services – and no one is the wiser.

    Let’s not be naive.

  • kareemachan

    Why does Alabama hate adoptive kids?

  • Nax

    In Michigan, those agencies get state funds and still have the right to discriminate.

  • Guy Johnson

    I am disappointed in our “progressive” members of the Alabama House. They voted for this do travesty as well, either actively or passively.

  • Relativicus

    “Pro-family.”

    “Pro-life.”

  • fahvel

    you folks should have let the south desede not just secede. Seems like once the humidity mounts their fkn mind become a slop of smooshed water melon – cheap imitation of your president but it plays well I think.

  • fahvel

    you folks should have let the south desede not just secede. Seems like once the humidity mounts their fkn mind become a slop of smooshed water melon – cheap imitation of your president but it plays well I think.

  • The Milkman

    What a terrible human being.

  • Nathan

    Since it’s only groups that don’t get tax dollars, I’m fine with this.

  • Macbill

    Yes, let’s make children suffer more institutional time without loving parents.

  • The race to the bottom of the barrel includes Alabama. It has always included Alabama.

  • Jack Frost

    See you in court Bitch!

  • lou

    I think children (as a class action) should be allowed to sue because their right to be adopted has been taken away. Kids in foster homes are hurt by this stupid law. If pedophilia is really a malicious control of a child by an adult to show power then this meets that definition. I find it intolerable that they want to deny children loving homes.

  • There should be no religious adoption agencies. Adoption should be left solely to unbiased state control. Religious agencies will always discriminate because the very first requirement is that you participate in the hosting agency’s particular beliefs. Their self-righteous arrogance is used to judge who is worthy of raising one of “god’s” creations. FYI-sperm meets egg, sperm penetrates egg, cells start to divide and, Viola’-9 months later, a baby. A purely physical, mechanical and scientific action – god be damned.