Trump: You Can’t Compare Any GOP Health Plan To Obamacare Because Obamacare Is Totally Dead

Politico reports:

President Donald Trump isn’t giving up on a new plan to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act. In Sunday morning tweets, Trump said a new health care plan is on its way, adding: “Obamacare is dead.”

Congress has yet to pass legislation to repeal and replace Obamacare, something Trump promised during the campaign that he would do on day one. Saturday marked his 100th day in office.

  • greenmanTN

    Trumpcare: when the solution is worse than than the disease.

  • Do Something Nice

    He’s such a pussy. The Democrats are obstructionist, the judges are bad, the press is mean, the intelligence agencies hate him, when is he going act like an adult?

    Oh course, there’s the matter that the Democrats don’t have a majority in the house and senate.

    • narutomania

      And that, DoSomethingNice, is the crux of it: Drumpf is a weak little crybaby. As soft and flavourless as baby’s gruel.

    • Tiger Quinn

      Have we ever heard a leader complain so much about how hard it is? Good lord.

      • -M-

        He’s not a leader.

    • Uncle Mark

      Well the egomaniacal dumbfuck did keep saying at the Republican convention “Only I can do this…”. The problem is (besides someone failing Civics 101) that it requires the consent and approval of many…and Mr Deal-Maker can’t even get the colluding party that dominates the House & Senate to support his plans. Sad.

      • thatotherjean

        He doesn’t have any actual plans, because coming up with workable plans is damned difficult. He has pipe dreams that he expects other people to turn into programs, but he doesn’t let go of his dreams when they can’t. I doubt that he knows what is actually in the Republican health plan, much less why they can’t pass it.

        • Uncle Mark

          The man has hired other people to run his companies. It was expressed to Kasich during the election, that they wanted him as Drumpf’s running mate, and that he would be responsible for the foreign policy and some of the domestic policies, while Drumpf would be ” making America great.” This man has spent his whole life taking credit for other people’s hard work. I have to wonder if this is how he got through school too.

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      Just a Giant, Ugly, Orange Snowflake. = Sad!!

    • cleos_mom

      Don’t forget that “archaic” separation of powers in the Constitution. Sad!

  • narutomania

    How the fuck would this blowhard know anything about what is going to be in the much-hyped-but-never-fully-manifested figment of the GOP imagination that they are called their health plan? He isn’t actually doing a goddamned thing to contribute to it! He’s too busy playing golf and changing his adult diapers.

    • ranchdad

      That’s winning by Drump. It just looks to a lot of intelligent rational people like losing.

  • Tiger Quinn

    I already have all of those things in my health care. If you want to help me, leave it the fuck alone.

    • cleos_mom

      He wants you to ‘deal with it.’

  • Philly Mike

    What boggles my mind are the people who benefit from the ACA and thank Obama for it but voted for tRUMP and would vote for him again knowing they will loose healthcare.

    • kareemachan

      Cognitive dissonance. I’d say it’s a conservative thing, but I see it in liberals who are anti-vaxxers as well. There must be something in the gene(s) that cause this that are advantageous for our survival, otherwise H. sapiens wouldn’t be around any more. I just can’t think of what it is….

      • Elagabalus

        Not cognitive dissonance – ignorance.

      • Stephen Elliot Phillips

        Humans have basically stopped their evolution due to optimum reproduction. IE they aint getting any smarter. In fact, the masses are no smarter than a herd of cows being fattened for the meat grinder

      • Philly Mike

        A bit off topic but I think the same about morning sickness I understand why it occurs but it just seems counter-intuitve to survival of the fetus.

        • -M-

          One theory about morning sickness is it serves to decrease exposure to toxins that are tolerated by adults but could harm the developing fetus.

          • Philly Mike

            interesting I never heard that before

      • cleos_mom

        Maybe. But herds have been known to need thinning.

    • thatotherjean

      Some of them didn’t know: they thought the ACA and Obamacare were two different things, and voted against Obamacare for. . .reasons.

    • Christopher

      Still waiting for his pants to catch on fire.

      Hey Karma, my birthday is coming up! PLEASE?!

  • Michael R

    Did he make all that up himself ?

    • Johnny Wyeknot

      He lives alone, remember.

  • kareemachan

    I guess if he had said that he would out-tweet EVERY OTHER PRESIDENT IN HISTORY, his 1st 100 days would have been yugely GREAT!!!!!11!!

  • Joe in PA

    They are only interested in themselves and not in what’s best for U.S….

    Oh for fuck sake.

  • A_Rae

    Impotent bastard

    • Christopher

      If only his father had been. Or his mother barren. We could’ve avoided all of this mess.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Dumpf: There is nuthin’ wrong “down there”, believe me.
      Melania: He’s an inny, believe me. Has to use a vacuum pump to even see it. Sad!!

  • Dramphooey

    “Will have much lower premiums & deductibles while at the same time taking care of pre-existing conditions!”

    The latest plan doesn’t include pre-existing conditions. I would call this a lie but I think the idiot is completely ignorant of what they’re doing in Congress.

    • BobSF_94117

      In one corner, you’re going to have plans with low premiums and deductibles that don’t cover pre-existing conditions. In another corner, you’re going to have plans which cover pre-existing conditions but with very high premiums and deductibles.

      People will have “access” to both. Make America Die Again.

      • “Opportunity” and “choice” are other phrases they like, along with “access”. All of it means outrageously expensive high-risk pools.

  • Johnny Wyeknot

    A delusional plagiarist. He doesn’t have an original thought in his brain.

  • Thorn Spike

    100 days…still an idiot.

  • Do Something Nice

    OT: Sadly, this isn’t satire.

    Donald Trump blames constitution for chaos of his first 100 days

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/29/trump-blames-constitution-for-first-100-days-chaos-presidency?CMP=fb_gu

    • SoCalGal20

      IF ONLY PEOPLE WOULD LET ME BE THE DICTATOR I WANT TO BE!!!!

    • ColdCountry

      It will always, always, always be someone or something elses fault.

      • Stephen Elliot Phillips

        Thats the republicans mantra. If you dont have a job its that brown persons fault, if you arent rich its that trade deals fault, if you dont have insurance its obamas fault, Its ALWAYS someone elses fault.

        Not sure how this logic is going to hold now the rethugs have all the power. But people are stoooopid.

        Im a member of a discussion group which pertains solely to a mans sexual organ. Dont want to get into details. Anyway, today I see a post from some jerk who is blaming the suppression of intelligent design and promotion of the myth of evolution on the free masons.

        In other words, its someones elses fault……

        • jonfromcalifornia

          Yup, that’s what the party of “personal responsibility” ALWAYS does. POS GOPers!

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Chocolate beefcake on the left, … too many chocolate cakes on the right.
      Sad!

  • Yet the GOP members do not want to give up their AWESOME coverage or even share what it is to their constituents…

  • PickyPecker
    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Dang! I got depressed (#7) reading that list.
      Now I have a preexisting condition!

      • Todd20036

        Sex helps.

      • PeterC

        And with Trump Insurance, your depression will continue to exist.

    • Todd20036

      Yup. As manageable as HIV is, a single prescription costs up to $20k annually without insurance.

      Not too many people can afford that

      • Raising_Rlyeh

        My prescription would be around $30K a year.

  • PickyPecker
  • Christopher

    This man truly is too stupid for words.

    What an embarrassment!

  • Yup, they are going to take care of us ‘pre-existing conditions’ by putting us into high-risk pools that we can’t afford, rapidly ending our lives from lack of care. All the sick people dead? Good! Problem solved! 😡

    • MBear

      I hope someone can actually see through my stupid, uninformed knee jerk, but pharma makes big money off sick people by selling them lifetime drugs and care. If no one can afford it, the companies dont make any money…?

      • BudClark

        And THAT, friends and neighbors, is why we don’t have a cure for cancer, AIDS, etc. … they’re growth industries, just like the for-profit prisons. Hasn’t CUBA had a working lung cancer vaccine for several years now?

        • clay

          No, it’s not why we don’t have a cure for cancer, AIDS, etc.

          Hundreds of dedicated investigators with NO financial reliance on the Pharm companies have dedicated their entire careers to this, getting us our first cures for ANY viral disease, getting us effective cancer treatments and several cures for specific cancers, developing the HPV vaccines. Even those investigators who are financially reliant on the Pharm companies, you think they’re so inhuman that they wouldn’t leak the shit out of any cure?

          You’ve praised the medical workers you know; why demonize those you don’t know because they’re on the research side of the equation?

        • Dave, from Canada

          If there was a lung cancer vaccine, then the tobacco companies would demand that it be released. They want their sales back.

          If ‘we’ found a cure for all of those diseases today, people would find new diseases to kill them the day afters. Of course, the new diseases wouldn’t really be new; they would have killed one earlier, but the other bugs got them first.

      • Yes but pharma isn’t the only money making identity involved. And they will still rake in millions from those that can afford insurance. It’ll only be a million or so who die outright. To the GOP and those that pay them, that’s not going to hurt them that much.

        The insurance companies are going to make money hand over fist because the fewer actually sick people they have to pay on, the more money (premiums) from the healthy and mostly healthy they can keep for themselves.

      • ChrisMorley

        Some people have the means to pay for the drugs.
        Pharma simply raise drug prices to maintain their profit levels.

      • cleos_mom

        Next time you hear somebody defend something appalling with the phrase “well after all, they’re in the business to make money”, try reminding them that this standard would have to include hit men and people who produce child pornography. They’re definitely in their chosen fields to make money, and they often do.

        And if you really like some capsaicin in your conversation, ask them which one they patronize most often.

    • Ross

      Yes. Please.

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      I just read on salon.com a piece that says pence wont be in the same room alone with a woman. Some kinda relgious “tick” of his.
      Xstains……

      • BudClark

        Mike Pence is a stone-cold Seven Mountains KKKonservative KKKristianist KKKultist *MANIAC.* I’m MUCH more afraid of him than I am of Orangey-Dumpty.

        • Dave, from Canada

          The only thing that worries me about Pence is that he’s more of a competent administrator than Trump ever will be.

          I hope you guys can get them both out of office at the same time.

          • DesertSun59

            When 45 is ultimately run out of town Pence will have his stink all over him. He will be completely ineffective as a POTUS and will never be elected to that office in 2020 when he ultimately runs.

          • thatotherjean

            Please? But voters are stupid and have short memories.
            Trump-stink will fade, and Pence is a lot more competent than Trump, however deranged he is in other ways.

      • Dave, from Canada

        Which cannot work. Jesus spoke directly about that kind of sin. If you have lust in your heart, according to him, then you’ve already committed the sin of adultery. Even avoiding the women isn’t going to be enough for him to avoid that sin.

        It’s the original thought crime. Pence openly proclaims that he’s a horn dog, who can’t think of anything but fucking every woman he sees.

        And then he has the gall to call other people ‘immoral’.

        Religion; proof that we’re idiots.

        • DesertSun59

          It’s a lie and a diversion. He secretly lusts after boys and is attempting an amusing diversion.

          • Dave, from Canada

            It doesn’t matter who he lusts after, according to his professed religious beliefs he’s guilty of it. 🙂 He’s a bigger pervert than any of us.

        • yes b’y

          just thinking about Pence thinking about sex, makes me want to do this.
          https://quizzicalllama.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/eww-o.gif

        • cleos_mom

          If he can’t even be alone in a room with a woman, the lust is residing in a locale considerably below his heart.

    • BudClark

      Follow the orange brick turd.

      There.

      Fixed it .

  • SnowFlake

    this man belongs in a mental health facility as he is fucking nuts.

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    Dumpf is promising much lower premiums and deductibles.
    In other words, your insurance policy under TrumpCare will be a polished turd.

    • Adam King

      It’ll be fine if you’re wealthy.

      • McSwagg

        … or don’t get sick.

  • BobSF_94117

    He’s trashing the required subsidies to insurance companies. He’s been dragging out making a decision to drop them, using the threat as leverage. Sounds like he’ll pull them and all hell will break lose in the insurance market. On the other hand, he reverses himself so often, who knows what he’ll actually do.

    • Adam King

      He promises the impossible, so he’ll just keep promising.

  • Henry Auvil

    You mean we’re going to finally get a single-payer National Health? YAY! Because that’s the only way this is going to happen, idiot!

  • Ross
    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      Its a mandate!

      • BudClark

        Yeah, it’s a mandate, all right: for him to get his fat, ugly, stupid, money-grubbing, pu**y-grabbing ass OUT of OUR People’s House. Resign and go to your remotest property (preferably in a country that doesn’t have an extradition treaty with the U.S.) because, sooner or later, JUSTICE IS GOING TO COME FOR YOU!

    • Dave, from Canada

      People who don’t care to vote, vote for the one who wins; whoever that may be.

      I’m sorry, but your numbers are wrong. 🙁 Those idiots who did not vote, they did vote for Him. Assholes.

  • SoCalGal20

    Just because you spew words on Twitter does not make them true, Mr.-Popular-Vote-Loser.

  • TexasBoy

    Silly Trump, the Democrats wanted single payer. It was he GOP members of congress that insisted upon using the insurance companies for Obamacare.

  • BudClark

    My son is in hospital after suffering a second stroke. He has Obamacare. It’s OBVIOUSLY not dead. And Eisenhower Hospital, Palm Springs is giving him EXACTLY the same care as if he had the most expensive “boutique” health insurance. God bless Obamacare! God bless Medi-Cal! And God bless Gov. Jerry Brown for standing up to the Republican bullies in Washington! They would have my son helpless on the street. THEY HAVE NO SOULS!

    • billbear1961

      I read recently that a bill is before the CA legislature–the state senate, I think–to introduce single-payer in CA, Bud!

      I hope they will pass it, and that many other blue states will join CA in a Blue Confederation that will show these Republican SAVAGES what civilization IS!!

      • Tom

        There is one in NY state as well. Unfortunately the Republican Senate is refusing to vote it out of committee. If you live in NY call your state reps and tell them to pass the NY HEALTH ACT

        • Correction. You don’t have a Republican Senate. You have a half dozen or so Democrats caucusing with the Republicans to allow them to be in the majority. It’s time for the party to do something about that.

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    • Celloman G

      Best wishes for a speedy recovery for your boy.

    • yes b’y

      sending healing vibes your way

    • Nychta

      I’m glad your son is receiving excellent care. I hope he recovers.

    • Hue-Man

      Under Trumpcare, your son will exhaust his savings paying the hospital bills to stay alive, then turn to you to make the life-or-death decision of how much YOU can pay.

      These are the gut-wrenching decisions that those of us who live in countries with single-payer medical care will never have to make. To call U.S. health care barbarous is an understatement – getting medical services is NOT like buying a car.

    • dcurlee

      Wishing for a speedy recovery

    • Skokieguy [Larry]

      Sending best wishes. May his recovery be speedy and complete.

    • david fairfield

      Sending good vibes, Bud…

    • FAEN

      Thinking and sending good thoughts to your son.

      Hugs

    • JCF

      Oh {{{Bud!!!}}}. You’ve had it much too hard (and not in a good way!) lately my friend. I hope you’ll be OK that I’m praying for you?

      You’re preaching to the choir w/ me re ObamaCare. I <3 it!

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9b61c4dde1f14910e29595a9c6f81e659bae559c1d81d4dd1c2cf07193a19a2a.png

      • BudClark

        Thanks, sweetie! Luke’s home. THIS time they’re calling it “heat stroke” … I’m still afraid there’s some underlying cause they haven’t found yet.

  • bkmn

    No looking behind the curtain folks!

  • labman57

    As much as Donnie would like to make it a self-fulfilling prophesy, the ACA is far from dead.

    But the millions of Americans who depend on it for their healthcare needs may very well end up that way prematurely if Trump continues to meddle with its implementation.

  • SoCalGal20
    • jefe5084

      Is there some clarification about how the disapprove numbers break out? Do they disapprove of his work because he hasn’t been able to repeal it; or do they disapprove because he is trying to repeal it and they want to keep it? I can’t find out how the polling question was phrased.

      • SoCalGal20

        I would love to know, too!

  • TheGrandWazoo2
  • billbear1961

    LIAR

  • JDS

    All he does is Tweet. Does he actually do any type of work?

    • No.

      this has been another edition of ‘simple answers to simple questions.’

  • JT
  • goofy_joe

    I think it’s funny how being obstructionists was touted as a pride issue with the Republicans during Obama’s administration, and now it’s somehow a bad thing. You guys are like school yard bullies.

    • -M-

      That. And the Democrats haven’t even gotten a chance to be obstructionists, Republicans have the numbers to pass their ‘hurry up and die’ plans on their own but haven’t even brought it to a vote in the House because they don’t have enough support in their own party.

  • Bj Lincoln

    Obamacare saved my life. I got the same treatment other people did and the after care i need to keep going. Without it i would have died at home before racking up a huge bill I could never pay back. The way I have been treated in the past with no insurance was minimal at best and put me last on the list to be cared for. Everyone treated me like a bothersome child. My wife saw how badly I was treated in an ER in Ohio after a car crash we were both in. She had insurance and I didn’t while we were treated for similar issues. She was across from my cubicle and saw and heard how I was treated. She was so passed she yelled at her doctor to do something. I can’t take most narcotics and my doctor wouldn’t give me the one thing that works. Her doctor slipped me a baggie with a few pills and signaled me to hush. I can’t go back to that.

    • Gigi

      Canadians like to complain that our healthcare system isn’t “perfect,” but it’s certainly a lot better than what many Americans have. You deserve better. You shouldn’t have to decide between feeding your children or paying rent and going to the doctor. (I’m glad that you’re both okay!!)

  • David

    The only thing completely dead – is the decaying rodent on Dumpy’s head…..and Dumpy’s tiny little flaccid pee-pee of course.

  • SoCalGal20
  • Halou

    The Republi-can’t party has had seven years to develop a working alternative. They didn’t even fail at it, because in order to fail some sort of attempt would have to have been made.

  • Stephen Elliot Phillips

    I really really hate donald trump.
    I had to put up with reagan, bush the first, and bush the simpleton.
    None of them was as bad as trumputin. and as you know, thats saying a lot

  • Beagle

    A savvy D party would be putting together a detailed health plan right now. Then, when the latest version of Dumpcare doesn’t even get to a vote in Congress and Dump predicts that the Ds will come begging for a deal, the Ds can present their plan and say, “We’re willing to deal. Here’s our first offer.”

    Ideally, that plan would be the dream, A+ wish list. Which would allow the Ds to do some compromising and still end up with a respectable B plan.

    • KarenAtFOH

      Medicare for everyone!

      • it’s not hard, dems!

      • thatotherjean

        That wouldn’t be perfect, but it would be a hell of a lot better than anything Drumpfcare has to offer.

  • DesertSun59

    He’s a vindictive assbag. And a serial liar.

  • JaniceInToronto

    Lying liar lies again…

    He should live in Oklahoma.

  • -M-

    1) ‘Obamacare’ works better than the failing system we had before that had been driven into a death spiral by perverse incentives.

    2) Trump has nothing to replace it with. Least of all a plan that would be better for insurance or healthcare customers.

    3) The #DontCare plans from Ryan and the house Republicans that Trump has endorsed, purely for the sake of repealing the Affordable Care Act, or as the GOP dubbed it Obamacare, do the opposite of making healthcare or health insurance more affordable, improving or expanding coverage, protecting those with pre-existing conditions from being denied coverage.

    4) Trump continues to offer nothing more than lies, empty promises, ignorant bluster and fascist Republican propaganda.

  • dcurlee

    Humm. I seem to remember for the past several years they had a better plan than Obamacare. The only plan they have is to fuck the middle class and poor Americans.

  • safari

    Obamacare is the conservative plan.

    Just fix it.

  • cleos_mom

    Are there no photos of the “big excitement” in Pennsylvania? We all know how easily excited Trumpanzees are.

  • Larry in Oklahoma

    Po thang, he’s had 100 days, and then months before that, and he ain’t got nothing to replace the AFA. Sucks when T-rump can’t even come up with anything at all. Or rather, it’s business as usual for him.

  • What he’s promising bears no resemblance to either of the rejected bills and is probably not possible. How is he getting away with this? Oh right, his fans will believe any shit he says or that right wing media says.

    Example: I have an acquaintance who has a friend who is about 60 who had no insurance and was diagnosed with cancer. They got him signed up for “Obamacare.” Good thing that ACA because otherwise he’d never get insurance of any kind. But all she does is talk about how terrible Obamacare is. Nevermind that he signed up for the EXACT policy that I have (she knows this but seems not to notice that when she’s telling me about it) and that yes the premiums are a bit pricey and there are co-pays that he’s having trouble paying, but it sounds like he makes enough that he didn’t qualify for any subsidy which means he should have enough money for those anyway. Anyway, the fact that he’s be shit out of luck without that law means nothing to her. She still thinks Obamacare is the worst thing ever. I and others have tried to talk to her about this. She gets the facts but Obamacare is horrible no matter what anyone says. Facts and reason do not matter. I’ve given up because it’s pointless. There are the people that the commentators inside the liberal bubble think I need to talk to. I have. It doesn’t work. You are not going to get them to vote for a Democrat no matter what Republicans say or do. Democrats stood by and let the far right make liberal and Democrat dirty words and this is the result. That crowd is going to go to their graves (probably sooner than they should once Ryan’s cuts to medicare and SS go through) cursing liberals for trying to make their lives better.

    • ZRAinSWVA

      We ended up dissolving a 30-year friendship because there was no reasoning with them, and facts didn’t matter. I’m horrified by our POTUS every day, and they’re lapping up his babble like it’s a gift from god.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada
  • Raising_Rlyeh

    Oh joy, all those wonderful high risk pools where people with preexisting conditions can get insurance only for catastrophes

  • Xuuths

    tRUMP lies, lies, lies, lies.