Reince Priebus: We’ve Looked At Changing Libel Laws So Trump Can Sue Over News Items He Doesn’t Like

The Guardian reports:

A day after Watergate reporters Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward issued a stirring call for the press to hold Donald Trump to account, the president’s chief of staff said the White House is actively considering a change to libel laws affecting news reporting.

“I think it’s something that we’ve looked at,” said Reince Priebus, appearing on ABC’s This Week. “How that gets executed and whether that goes anywhere is a different story.”

On the campaign trail last year, Trump responded to reporting on his policies and background by floating the possibility of a change to libel laws. Such a move would in reality require a change to the US constitution, which enshrines freedom of the press in the First Amendment, the Supreme Court having ruled on the issue.

Undaunted, the president returned to the theme on Thursday, writing on Twitter: “The failing [New York Times] has disgraced the media world. Gotten me wrong for two solid years. Change libel laws?”

  • Tiger Quinn

    They’re getting really weirdly bold, about suing the press, about putting people in jail – it’s been some rather scary talk today. Theories so far put out: first is that Trump believe he “beat” the Russian probe and now can do whatever he wants. Second is that they know he’s going down, he’s been promised pardons, and they are going to ram awful shit through fast. Third is that Trump thinks that he can seize power and just order the Russian thing to go away.

    • Bad Tom

      It didn’t take them long, did it?

  • MDixon34

    45 is just begging to be overuled in court again.

  • TampaDink

    Again I must express my sincere wishes that everyone connected with this administration suffer from serious infections caused by paper cuts as they wipe their asses on the U.S. Constitution.

    • JT
      • Wonder how long till he decides to put his face on money.

        • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

          Seems appropriate.

          • PeterC

            Do you mean his ass hole?

        • Todd20036

          They already tried that with Reagan

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        • gaymex1

          I’m just thankful that Mount Rushmore doesn’t contain a vein of orange granite because nothing is beyond these dangerous fools.

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        • BudClark

          Isn’ the rule that the person has to be DEAD first?

          • So the sooner the better?

          • 2guysnamedjoe

            I’d hate to deface a mountainside like that, but weighing the pros and cons, if that’s the price of getting him out of office, it would be worth it.

        • RoverSerton

          I’m also glad he hasn’t put Trump on AF1.

        • MassageBear
      • TampaDink

        Donald Dump, as pictured here, looks so much nicer & far less harmful than the personage he’s portraying.

        • JWC

          Liked Woodward and Bernstein’s comments at the WPD last night

          • TampaDink

            As did I. I continue to count on our beloved Rachel & other professional journalists to blow the lid off of the collusion with Russia that selected our sitting p.o.s. resident of the White House.

          • JWC

            Moi aussi

          • JWC

            Did not think the reference to Rachel being a conspirator theorist but I assumed that it was in the comedy section and he knocked every one I felt that’s where it should stay

          • TampaDink

            I gave him a pass on that…since he was taking much meaner swipes at many others in the media but reserved his harshest for the administration, who deserve every word.

          • JWC

            very tue are you a marvel comics Fan???

          • TampaDink

            Not really. Comics, superheroes & science fiction are all almost even with sports in terms of my interests.

          • JWC

            me too “American Gods” is airing tonightand i like Ian McShane

          • TampaDink

            His name was familiar but I couldn’t place him until I checked out his credits on IMDB.com, I vaguely remember him from “Dallas” but more recently from “Pillars of the Earth”.

          • JWC

            did most of his work in “Jolly Olde” England

          • TampaDink

            I can’t hold that against him….since I’d then be obliged to do the same with Simon Callow and Stephen Frye.

          • JWC

            Neither of those 2 i care for

          • TampaDink

            We can’t see eye to eye on everything. 😉

          • JWC

            Is Stephen Frye on that Brit car show

          • TampaDink

            Not that I am aware of. I developed a great fondness for him from his portrayal of Oscar Wilde in “Wilde” as well as his title role in “Peter’s Friends”.

          • JWC

            Oh ok I am thinking of something else

          • TampaDink

            He was also in “V For Vendetta”, narrated “The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy”, “The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug”….he has a pretty long resume’…..he’s gay & has been very open about his struggles with having Bi-Polar Disorder.

          • JT

            He’s also quite a writer. He was part of the former comedy team of Fry and Laurie. That’s Hugh Laurie, now perhaps best known as the lead in the series House. Fry married Elliott Spencer in 2015.

          • TampaDink

            Yep….and Laurie, along with Kenneth Branagh, Emma Thompson & Rita Rudner starred with Frye in Peter’s Friends.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhfHLuhYPok

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W6JKXYxIUQ

          • JWC

            The guy I was thinking of is the larger guy on a Brit Auto show and is a Frinkin homophobe

          • TampaDink

            Definitely not at all the same actor.

          • JWC

            nope my Mistake

          • JWC

            Jeremy Clarkson was who i was thinking of

          • TampaDink

            The name (and now that I’ve Googled) the face are not familiar to me…and based on your earlier remarks, I’ve missed nothing.

          • JWC

            Not a damned thing unless you are into fat blowhards who prefer opinions to information

          • TampaDink

            I can assure you that I am not at all into the likes of him.

          • JT

            Jeremy Clarkson, who was fired from Top Gear? He’s definitely an arsehole.

          • JT

            Have you ever seen QI, a British quiz show? He’s the moderator and very funny.

          • TampaDink

            Not yet….but am now checking it out on YouTube. Thanks!

      • Nowhereman

        Well at least he has a “passing” acquaintance with the constitution…

    • Librarykid

      They can dish it out (Lying Hillary, Lock her up) but they can’t take it. Snowflakes

      • TampaDink

        They are quite pathetic.

    • JCF

      We must TAKE NAMES. Some glorious day, Drumpf will be gone.

      We must make sure the DrumpfenKorp NEVER come back!

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e0bda988c6472e4d2d9b723c8d3dc3536e74424426ae83e9e596669d72dd5928.jpg

      • TampaDink

        Abso-fucking-lutely!

        • david fairfield

          Abso-fucking what?

          • TampaDink

            Absolutely with fucking added within for emphasis to what JCF had posted.

          • david fairfield

            I guess I’m being too obscure. From a 70’s movie, someone says abso-fucking-lutely and her friend says abso-fucking what? then she repeats it with emphasis abso-fucking-LUTELY. Somehow Didi Conn is in my mind as having said it but I could be totally off. It’ll come to me…

          • TampaDink

            I’m being a tad dense tonight. 😉
            I’m not recalling the movie reference you are thinking of but I another use of “fucking” mid word that I remember is from “Terms of Endearment”…when Aurora confesses to Emma over the phone after she’s finally begun sleeping with Garrett and her realization that sex in relatively middle age is fan-fucking-tastic.

          • david fairfield

            I use that one too! I’ll try any variation of the word to help get my point across.

          • TampaDink

            It does get our points across very clearly.

          • david fairfield

            I just remembered it’s from Grease 2 (1980). Didi Conn was not the one who said it but hey, she was in the film, so I guess I’m not doing too badly….

          • TampaDink

            I loved Grease but hated Grease 2 & had blocked it out of my memory. LOL

          • david fairfield

            I know. I get a lot of flack for loving Grease 2, but I do. I love Grease as well. The two should never be compared, there is no comparison. There are a handful of films that were critically lambasted that I have an affinity for. At least I’m no longer ashamed to say so…

          • TampaDink

            Nor should you be ashamed of liking anything…even Grease 2.

          • david fairfield

            xo!

          • TampaDink

            😉

      • blackstar

        I may be biased but that’s a good idea 🙂 I’m sure they are making a list .

    • Gustav2

      Not to worry, they are having problems getting a massive tax cut thru in a room full of Republicans.

      • TampaDink

        As comforting as that is, I still worry. My worries will begin to be alleviated once hair furor has been removed from office (along with every other person linked his administration found to have ties to the Russian government and/or until it has been medically confirmed that he has finally assumed room temperature.

  • Lazycrockett

    No voter, No media outlet, no social media outlet should be SURPRISED. He has said this from day one.

  • Rick

    NOPE

  • Joe in PA

    Can you imagine the ‘discovery’ phase of any lawsuit?

  • coram nobis

    Look up New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254 (1964) for starters. It was a unanimous ruling, and bedrock case law.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Times_Co._v._Sullivan

    A rule compelling the critic of official conduct to guarantee the truth of all his factual assertions — and to do so on pain of libel judgments virtually unlimited in amount — leads to a comparable “self-censorship.” Allowance of the defense of truth, with the burden of proving it on the defendant, does not mean that only false speech will be deterred. … Even courts accepting this defense as an adequate safeguard have recognized the difficulties of adducing legal proofs that the alleged libel was true in all its factual particulars. … Under such a rule, would-be critics of official conduct may be deterred from voicing their criticism, even though it is believed to be true and even though it is, in fact, true, because of doubt whether it can be proved in court or fear of the expense of having to do so. They tend to make only statements which “steer far wider of the unlawful zone.” … The rule thus dampens the vigor and limits the variety of public debate. It is inconsistent with the First and Fourteenth Amendments. The constitutional guarantees require, we think, a federal rule that prohibits a public official from recovering damages for a defamatory falsehood relating to his official conduct unless he proves that the statement was made with “actual malice” …

    See also the excellent book on this case by Anthony Lewis, Make No Law.

    • Gregory In Seattle

      Nice in theory, as long as the Supreme Court is willing to enforce common law. You understand why I’m not holding my breath.

      • coram nobis

        Except that the Supreme Court did uphold this concept, in a 9-0 ruling. They’re a little reluctant to overturn case law, state decisis and all that. And it wasn’t so much common law as basic 1st Amendment analysis. If a high mucky-muck can sue any little paper or website because s/he doesn’t like their coverage, it would make the 1st Am. press-freedom clause meaningless.

        https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/376/254/case.html

        • Gregory In Seattle

          When, not if, a similar matter comes before the Court, it can overturn case law. Especially if the Republicans continue to stack the Court. I greatly fear that we will see a large number of “settled” cases overturned.

          • coram nobis

            That depends on their gag reflex. Remember that justices do have to find some way of making the judicial reasoning fit their ruling, and they do sometimes vote contrary to expectations. Or at least they’re mindful of repercussions from a real nasty reversal. Don’t assume that they’d overturn Sullivan any more than they’d overturn Brown v. Board of Ed. or Loving v. Virginia, at least not casually, and certainly not at the convenience of whoever’s in the White House at the moment. Even Scalia tended to take the longer view.

          • coram nobis

            What you may see is an erosion of less-revered or more controversial cases. We already have a Court edging toward a pro-business basis, so look for a regression to the Lochner era. Also look for trouble with Roe v. Wade, perhaps partial nibbling rather than a one-off reversal.

      • Natty Enquirer

        Much as I’d like to see the Notorious RBG in a SWAT jacket, the Court does not enforce the law. They rule on it.

        • Gregory In Seattle

          I mispoke. But if the Supreme Court is not willing to require that established precedent is followed, were are still just as screwed.

          • Natty Enquirer

            The Court follows its own precedents. They cannot “require” it of others except by issuing orders, which must be enforced by a police power. Federal marshals answer to the Executive, which sets them on a potential collision course

  • Gregory In Seattle

    Why not just pass a few sedition laws? You know, make it a criminal offense to speak badly of the President. Of course, this will bite them hard next time there is a Democrat in the White House, but thinking of long-term consequences is not something the GOP does.

  • j.martindale

    I read the headline and was dumbfounded. Do these idiots not know anything about Constitutional law? These issues have been before the Supreme Court, which has ruled on the limitations of public figures to sue. Total ignoramuses.

    • They’re talking about amending the Constitution to do it.

      • coram nobis

        Partial repeal of the 1st Amendment? Good luck with that.

        • Sure, if you phrase it like that. An amendment to the effect of “it shall be a felony to use one’s position to manipulate public opinion by the use of false statements” is something much more palatable to the general public. You don’t even mention the First Amendment.

          • Beagle

            They’d probably try something more convoluted. Something that wouldn’t have allowed Obama to sue the birthers.

          • Chucktech

            That would never fly. That would ensnare cesspools like WND or Breitbart and like-minded fellow travelers. NY Times and WaPo, not so much.

          • Just what I was thinking – and you could add Pants-On-Fire-In-Chief to the head of that list.

      • j.martindale

        Not really. Libel laws are not included in the Constitution. The protections of the Constitution are freedom of press, which has been interpreted by the Court broadly to protect the press from prosecution for libel in most situations regarding public figures.

        • Natty Enquirer

          Hence the need to amend the Constitution to overturn libel case law which has been based upon it.

          • j.martindale

            No one has said anything about Constitutional amendments, and that idea, as Coram Nobis suggests, is laughable.

          • CanuckDon

            And Reince Priebus needs to get his brownie points to stay in with the Trump club. It’s this or let Bannon grab his leg again.

      • stevenj

        On a bright note the Republicans can’t even agree on what to have for lunch, let alone propose a constitutional amendment that would have to be ratified by 3/4 of the states. Also, this current administration skipped civics in school.

      • Jacob

        By means of a states up constitutional congress which has never been done before. They’re also throwing in removing any constitutionally protected rights to education, clean air, clean water, safe food, etc. Scum.

        • stevenj

          21st amendment?

      • KnownDonorDad

        In this political climate, a Constitutional convention would leave us as the Republic of Gilead.

    • We Are Just Six States Away From A Constitutional Crisis – Details
      http://samuel-warde.com/2017/02/constitutional-convention-crisis/

      Imagine a right-wing movement so extreme, even those doughty old stalwarts at the John Birch Society came out against it. That’s the Constitutional Convention crusade in a nutshell.

      If you’ve never heard of such a thing, join the club. But try to imagine: What if there was a way for the GOP and their corporate pay masters to do anything they want? Without getting cracked down on by those pesky judges and regulators from the U.S. federal government?

      Because having President Donald Trump in the White House isn’t enough. Those danged courts and civil servants refuse to follow orders and keep obeying the law instead.

      A Constitutional Convention could change all that. So far, we’ve only ever amended the U.S. Constitution through a two-thirds majority vote in both the U.S. House and Senate. Alas, it’s hard to find enough of these “career politicians” from either party to make the kind of drastic changes today’s nihilistic right-wingers crave.

      But there’s another way. Thanks to Article V, gutting civil rights, the ACA, voting rights, public schools, labor laws, and more; selling our national parks to oil companies; and taking us back to the Jim Crow era is all within their grasp.

      Article V allows two thirds of our state legislatures to call for a Constitutional Convention –“Con-Con” for short — where they can draft amendments. If a three-fourths of our states affirm the proposed amendments, they become part of our constitution.

      This sounds crazy. But as the map below shows, 28 states have already called for a “Con-Con.” We need only 34 states in order for that to happen, and 38 eight states to ratify what they come up with. Meanwhile, 11 states are being heavily canvassed by folks from the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC). ALEC is a so-called non-profit funded by ExxonMobil, Koch Industries, Pfizer, State Farm, AT&T, UPS, and other pro-business interests.

      https://twitter.com/ALT_DOJ/status/831376228791754752/photo/1
      While ALEC mostly provides “model legislation” used by GOP lawmakers from the School Board level and up, the Constitutional Convention is their big push. With the large number of GOP-controlled and divided states, they want to strike while the iron’s hot.

      Alternet cautions, “This is no fringe, unrealistic movement” and reminds us that “They came close to calling a convention in the 1980s.” And now, they’ve got the full force of ALEC behind them.

      At ALEC’s 2016 annual meeting in July, the convention of states was made a top priority.
      And here’s the scary thing: Even if you’re pro-“states rights,” that may not mean what you think it means.

      But ALEC doesn’t just fight for states’ rights over the federal government. It fights for states’ rights over everything else.
      That includes towns, cities and counties. For starters they’re -pushing for “state preemption” laws that override and repeal higher minimum wages and gun laws set by voters at the local level.

      Once again, the Constitutional Convention movement is so extreme, even many die-hard Republicans reject the notion.

      Last week, alarmed lawmakers from Idaho — one a Republican and one a Democrat — came together to warn their neighbors about this impending crisis. Judy Boyle (R-District 9) and Ilana Rubel (D–District 18) wrote in The Idaho Statesman:

      The two of us represent different political parties, but we both love our Constitution. We’re speaking out because it is under serious threat. Please pay attention — this issue keeps us up at night. The more you learn, the more you will share our fears.
      In their open letter, they also warned:

      Proponents of a Con-Con will tell you their objective is to pass a balanced budget amendment, term limits or another benign-sounding tweak. Make no mistake — there is no basis to believe that the agenda can be contained. These unelected delegates could gut free speech, the Second Amendment, or our system of checks and balances.
      Alas, as the 2016 election shows, too many of us are not paying attention. And if you think the Con-Con delegates will take the good of our country and the will of our people into consideration, take a long, hard look at our Electoral College in 2016.

      The last time we had a Constitutional Convention…
      The last time our country had one of these was in Philly way back in 1787 … Unless you count that ones that led up to the Civil War.

      https://twitter.com/PaladinCornelia/status/797930799408369664

      • I don’t know why this isn’t a bigger story. The alt-right are well aware of it and will tell you all about it if you bother to read their shit. But the mainstream media is mostly ignoring it. Do they not know? Too lazy to talk about a story that doesn’t land in their laps? This isn’t what people are talking about in Georgetown during cocktail hour?

        • Librarykid

          I think a lot of the inattention is a conscious effort not to give free publicity to something bad like they did with POS 45.

      • painedumonde

        It Can’t Happen Here.

      • WOOT! WOOT! FAKE NEWS! THAT’S NOT HOW ANY OF THIS WORKS, DOROTHY!!!

        ” So far, we’ve only ever amended the U.S. Constitution through a two-thirds majority vote in both the U.S. House and Senate”

        Right there, the authors blew themselves out of the water. That is NOT now it works!

        2/3 of each house of Congress must vote in favor of the proposed amendment, AND it must be ratified by 3/4 of the states in a popular vote.

        Constitutional Conventions can be called ONLY for the purpose of drafting and proposing amendments to the constitution, and must have the backing of 2/3 of the States to call a convention, and the requisite 2/3 majority in BOTH houses of Congress in order to convene. ANY amendment they propose must STILL gain a 3/4 majority of ALL states in order to be ratified and written into the Constitution.

        Read it for yourself here:
        http://constitutionus.com/

        • Todd20036

          And neither the House nor the Senate has such a super majority.

          Hell, I’d like to think that SOME republicans aren’t this prone to the whims of a would – be dictator

          • I don’t have that much faith in them let them get 2/3 of the states to approve it and they will go along ‘with the voice of the people’.

    • Daveed_WOW

      I’d say it’s all political theater. They say these things to pander to the middle american fascists who voted for them.

      • MonochromeMouse

        I’d agree, except trump truly believes that he is above the law and unable to be criticized, the republicans are just going along with it to, like you said, pander to the fascists that make up their support base.

        • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

          Some Republicans are going along with it. Most are totally on board with it.

          • And I have great respect for the ones that aren’t. David Frum. Evan McMullin. Even (can’t believe I’m saying this) Bill Kristol. The ones that are standing up to Trump and company have earned my respect. That’s not winning them any favors at the moment and I know they’re getting shit for it but they are doing what’s right and speaking out.

          • Adam King

            I have zero respect for anyone who continues to call him/herself a Republican in 2017.

      • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

        So? That’s all that it has ever been. What we need now are better actors. Ones who can fool the racists and fascists before election time and then turn on them once in office to drive Democracy down their throats with or without impunity. Not what we’ve been doing.

      • Fascists and swine live in every corner of this nation, not just “middle America” – I look at the voting map and I see way to damned much red all over the place. Most of it in areas that should know better, like the rust belt, the northeast, the whole west coast.
        Unfortunately the vast majority of the voting public lose what’s left of their intelligence and common sense long before they actually enter the voting booth. Instead they vote with their fear, their prejudices, and their empty wallets – what they just can’t get through their heads is the fact that the Reich Wing is what put all three of those motivations there in the first place, and NONE of them does the voter or this nation one damned bit of good.

        • Daveed_WOW

          Common sense and intelligence – what little we get from school – is overwhelmed by media images, religion and propaganda.

    • Adam King

      No, these idiots do not know anything about Constitutional law.

  • Max_1

    What Then does a free press report… ?

  • TexasBoy

    Trump’s Response: The Constitution is for Losers!

    • Halou

      The Constitution is what he dries his pee-pee on after a hard day of whoring.

      • Adam King

        I’m not convinced that’s the organ he whores with.

        • McSwagg

          Whoring is the only “manual” labor performed by his dRumpfiness.

  • Natty Enquirer

    Fake news.

  • Halou

    At the same time as he is threatening a change in the law to prevent media from publishing ‘bad’ articles about him, he is handing out printed electoral college maps and insisting that they be printed as front page news even though it has been more than 5 months since election day.
    This attack on the free press is being done on two fronts.

    • Chucktech

      And they’re not even “Electoral College maps.” Jesus, what a moronic ignoramus he is.

  • JT

    This monster must be removed.

  • JWC

    Hey dumbass, as your 33rd president said https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1bf1d252e01c41feb4a7522bbaefe6b0e92660f7189ae7efd340539f279b2a34.jpg “If you can’t stand the heat you better get out of the kitchen” You thin skinned pack of ass holes

  • Gustav2

    Aren’t libel laws a state matter?

    • Sort of. It’s both a State and a Constitutional matter. Libel laws pushed by the states cannot get in the way of free speech or freedom of the press guaranteed by the Constitution, as the Constitution supercedes the state laws.

    • Natty Enquirer

      Most state defamation laws have been revised to agree with the case law, which goes all the way to the Supreme Court and the Constitution.

  • FAEN

    Are you fucking kidding me??

  • Wynter Marie Starr

    Un fucking believable. He proves his unsuitability every day.

  • Michael R
  • Canadian Observer

    Maybe if someone makes him a nice and very shiny crown he can be distracted.

    • Adam King

      He’s been trying to grow one for years.

  • Superman

    There was a funny movie called Soapdish in 1991 where an aging soap opera star played by Sally Field would go out to the Paramus mall where lady shoppers would clamor around her and she would bask in the adoration as an ego boost. So Trump avoids the hostile Correspondents dinner and instead goes to a campaign rally in Pennsylvania for adoration. Now he’s emboldened to think his supporters will clamor for stronger libel laws so der Trump won’t have to tolerate criticism. Its all very unhealthy for Trump and the country. But our Constitution can easily withstand the challenge. This is not Turkey, and our Constitution is not so easily ignored.

    • Luddite

      I loved that movie. It was on again a few months ago and it was still great.

    • kaydenpat

      I recall watching Soapdish once when it first came out at the movie theatre. Must see it again.

    • You are the second person to mention that movie in a week. I saw it in theater when it was new. I obviously need to see it again since it’s been that long since I watched it.

  • MBear

    Better stop talking smack about the orange dictator – it will only put you on an earlier train

  • JWC

    it was so nice not to have heard form Rancid Pubis in so long and then he raises his ugly head and confirms why

    • Steverino

      Reich Priapus raises his right arm stiffly and quite regularly, like Dr. Strangelove.

      • JWC

        probably tied to his pecker to fake an erection

  • olandp

    So Obama should be able to sue Don the Con for all of his birtherism? I’d love to see the Tangerine shit-gibbon produce all of that “very interesting” information his “detectives” uncovered in Hawaii.

  • JT
    • Daveed_WOW

      A little crude and blunt, but it works.

    • His Holishjt, King Donald

      Are you still saying they’re stupid?

      • Todd20036

        Yup

        • His Holishjt, King Donald

          Can’t say I agree. The top GOPers know their base very well and the red voters aren’t that blind either.

          The biggest lesson I’ve learnt from going under cover as a trumpanzee online and at a Trump rally is that they’re VERY aware of his lies but their hatred is more important to them. They’re surprisingly informed.

          • Exactly. He plays to their fears and their anger. They don’t care that he lies. It doesn’t matter. Listen to them spew their talking points. Some of them are self-contradictory. They aren’t meant as truth. They are just propaganda. Mantras to be repeated to keep themselves worked up and passionate about Trump. They know they are being manipulated and pandered to. They love that someone is actually pandering to them. It makes them feel special. I don’t think Republicans are stupid. They run the country and over half the states. (In half the states they have total control of the legislative and executive branches.) Stupid? No. Reckless and short-sighted? Absofuckinglutely.

          • His Holishjt, King Donald

            THANK YOU! THANK YOU!

            Yes, the red voters know exactly what they’re buying. It’s the scholarly Dems who keep thinking everybody wants peace, and love and who dared to want something else are all stupid, misguided and can be turned by FACTS.

            The red voters ARE short-sighted but the top GOPers are more greedy & selfish than anything else. Economically, you dont’ gain anything considerable under a GOP tax plan unless you’re worth a couple of $mils

          • Adam King

            Step One: Break the government; smash civility.

            Step Two: Profit!

          • His Holishjt, King Donald

            Top GOPers want profit, and maybe hatred and their red voters want to keep their license to hate. They’re match made in heaven (or hell, depending on your definition of “heaven” and “hell”

          • Jeffg166

            Ferengi rules of acquisition.

          • Librarykid

            45’s rallies are more and more sounding like Hitler’s rallies with the ranting and the hate. Nothing constructive said. It was ironic that last night PBS showed Judgement at Nuremberg.

          • Chucktech

            If, by reckless and shortsighted, you mean traitorous, I totally agree.

          • Ernest Endevor

            I don’t think they run quite half the states and I think the number that they control completely is closer to a third. Still, I agree with you in spirit: it’s terrifyingly high.

          • It’s called a trifecta (governor’s mansion plus both houses of the legislature). Republicans currently have 25. Democrats have 6.

            https://ballotpedia.org/State_government_trifectas

          • Ernest Endevor

            Clearly you’re better informed than I. Now I know that I have something new to keep me awake at night.

          • Try to sleep. But do vote in every election. School board. City Council. County boards. Every election matters, not just the presidency. If you already do that, talk to your friends about voting. The right vote in higher numbers in those elections and a lot of what happens in our country happens as a result of those elections.

          • Ernest Endevor

            I do. At our local fire house. I would talk to others but I don’t have any friends. I live in a very progressive pocket of upstate NY with a Republican congressman. I will call him later to give whoever picks up an earful about repealing the ACA.

            According to Elizabeth Drew writing in the New York Review of Books before the election:
            Those Democrats who say they simply cannot vote for Clinton—some are planning to waste their votes on third party candidates, who take more votes from Clinton than Trump—apparently haven’t thought through where this leads: helping Trump. This lack of concern for consequences is reminiscent of those Democrats, mainly on the left, who said that they were “disappointed” in Obama– and didn’t turn out to vote in midterm elections. This contributed to the steep Democratic losses in Congress in 2010 and 2014.

          • Librarykid

            I hope that their hatred is their downfall.

          • His Holishjt, King Donald

            I’m hoping the Dems can see they can’t win by bringing a knife to a gun fight.

          • FAEN

            As one of Joy Reid’s guests said yesterday-‘When they go low we go high didn’t work. How about when they go low we bury them’.

            Amen to that sister!

          • Librarykid

            AMEN! Bring a fucking cannon.

          • Ernest Endevor

            They can also rely on Democrats not to vote.

      • JT

        Yes. Trumpanzees. Quote correctly.

        • His Holishjt, King Donald

          You’re sticking with they’re stupid because they value their hatred higher than you do?

          It baffles me that Dems are thinking Trump & his people like DeVos are dumb when they’re getting exactly everything they want. I wish I could be dumb like DeVos for once in my life.

          • Todd20036

            Both are possible. They disbelieve science, they espouse a bible, they think Hitler had the right idea.

            And a dictatorship with a RWNJ at the helm would save America.

            They’re idiots… who are getting what they want. Doesn’t make them brilliant.

          • His Holishjt, King Donald

            I don’t think HItler is an idiot. Neither were the Nazis.

            The RWNJ disbelief in science doesn’t make them stupid, actually. Why should they believe something that doesn’t serve their agenda?

          • stevenj

            How smart is it to get caught murdering 6 million Jews, gay men, gypsies?

          • His Holishjt, King Donald

            He finished murdering them before he was caught, didn’t he? Many wanted to do such a thing but could never accomplished that.

            Evil people aren’t stupid. They’re just evil.

          • stevenj

            After his death do you think the Germans thought he was smart?

          • His Holishjt, King Donald

            After Trump beats Hillary, do you think the Americans think he’s dumb?

          • stevenj

            He proves it daily. I think he was lucky to get by with the electoral college win since he lost the popular vote by 3 million+.

          • His Holishjt, King Donald

            “he was lucky to get by”

            If you take a look at his campaign schedule, you wouldnt’ think luck has too much to do with it. He might ‘ve been “lucky” to campaign those state once or twice, but not when he pounding them so many times.

            He’s an insane buffoon who made a lot of gaffes but always know how to fix them and his bigger actions (VP & cabinet picks) are always in line with making him more wealthy and powerful.

          • stevenj

            All he did was fool a lot of people. Including many of the people who voted for him. That’s called dishonest, not smart. Time will tell whether trump and company will win out.

            The Germans were left with a war ravaged bombed out country. And a legacy of a leader who murdered millions that haunted them for years. Some might think Hirohito was smart too but his country was left with hundreds of thousands dead in an instant and bombed out cities and infrastructure like Germany. That kind of endgame doesn’t seem smart in the long run.

          • His Holishjt, King Donald

            It takes a lot of mental power to know how to lie and whom to lie to to get what you want. Dishonesty and intelligence aren’t mutually exclusive . Time already told me, so far, his group won over some of the smartest people alive.

            It looks more & more like the Trump people DID collude with the Russians, which means they pulled a fast one over Obama and knew who to conspire with.

            “That kind of endgame doesn’t seem smart in the long run”
            You’re assuming the endgame isn’t about amassing power and feeding off of hatred for as long as they can.

          • stevenj

            I take a bigger picture view (or long term) of what smart is (regarding politicians). These battles we are fighting are not the endgame. When countries (like Germany and Japan) were left in ruins my conclusion is that their leaders were ultimately not smart.

            I do very much fear where all this could go. It seems right out of Allen Dulles’ playbook. But there is always the unknown factor. Something that may happen to topple trump and the Republican’s house of cards.

          • His Holishjt, King Donald

            You keep assuming everybody has the same goal as you.

          • stevenj

            If the trump voter’s goal is to destroy the environment, destroy the civil rights of you and I, shit on the Constitution, shift all their wealth to the .01%, complete the corporatization of the US, enrich the industrial complex beyond avarice and laugh while their leader got elected illegally with the help of a foreign power … no, we do not have the same goals.

            Frankly I think they are dumb as shit. And so is their leader.

          • His Holishjt, King Donald

            Those are just the trade off. The Trump voters wanna legitimize their voices and hatred. That’s more important to them .

            I’d love to think of Trump as a stupid guy but he seems to know how to effectively gain publicity, power, and wealth.

          • stevenj

            There are consequences for trade offs. That’s why I brought up the end result of Hitler and Hirohito and how the citizens of Germany and Japan thought about how “smart” their leaders were after their countries were destroyed. Time will tell how “smart” trump and his supporters are.

          • His Holishjt, King Donald

            Trump’s goals are amassing power, wealth and publicity while he’s ALIVE. He’s very very successful so far.

            Given how the feckless the Dems have been, I’m not counting on the Trump family to face any punishment for the Russian collusion. At the very most, some pawn like Flynn will be under house arrest.

            When I talked to the trumpanzee, pretending to be one of them, they proved to be quite informed and reasonably intelligent. They’re only denying Trump’s lies to piss off his haters. MOST of his promises dont matter that much to them if they come to live or not. That wall won’t really affect their trailer park one way or another, just something fun to talk about at the expense of the browns and libs.

            They’re mostly trailer trash who wouldn’t care less about what they’ll leave behind for their kids. Their “end game” is all about feeling good inside.

            The Muslim issue is one of the very few lines his voters wouldnt’ cross with him, though. I don’t see him changing his position on that soon, either.

          • stevenj

            I know what trump’s goals are. There are limits to everything. Except apparently stupidity. Hopefully Congress will change enough to neuter trump in 2 years. Even better is for his whole world to come crashing down on him in less than that. In my lifetime I have never seen citizen involvement like we are seeing today. There is a lot of resistance, more than I saw during Johnson and Nixon during the Vietnam War protests.
            As far as trump – what goes around comes around.

          • Annie Coffman

            Trump’s followers are ignorant louts who want to feel good or those who want big tax breaks on the backs of the majority. They are all bad since their goal is to harm others to feed their stupidity and/or greed.

          • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

            And they’re not monsters either. They’re just people.

          • His Holishit, King Donald

            “And they’re not monsters either. They’re just people”

            Yes, they are people. Just the evil kind

          • Cattleya1

            In my experience, mot successful (rich) business types are far from brilliant. They are acquisitive and tenacious. Once they get power and money, they do not let go of either.

          • Bad Tom

            It makes them cunning.
            There’s a difference.

          • Todd20036

            So, they’re puling a cunning stunt.

          • McSwagg

            They’re all talk. That makes them cunning linguists.

          • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

            It worked for the elections.

          • Librarykid

            I’m not saying the leaders are stupid, but their followers sure are. They followed their leader to the ballot box and I hope they follow him to hell.

          • Don’t we all? The problem is, no man is an island and they’ll drag the rest of us there in their wake.

          • Steverino

            And therein lies the rub. One-party, authoritarian regimes eventually collapse or are defeated in war, but at the cost of millions of lives in the interim.

          • JT

            Go back and read our exchange.

            What you say here is not a very good argument. What they’re getting has very little to do with planning.

          • His Holishjt, King Donald

            DeVos has been wanting to build God’s Kingdom her whole life. Yes, she’s getting what she wants by supporting the only person who would sell out to her. I dont’ see Madame President putting DeVos up for Sec of Edu, no matter how much she donated.

            Trump knew exactly where to campaign, and what to say to get the most number of votes. He might’ve been lucky once or twice, but not that many times pounding those locations.

          • JT

            Yes, of course. It’s all been done because they were so intelligent at planning. There were no other factors at work. None at all. They’re couldn’t be. That wouldn’t fit your theory.

          • His Holishjt, King Donald

            Of course there are always luck involved but those people didn’t buy a lottery ticket picking out random numbers.

          • JT

            That makes no sense.

            Luck is only one other factor.

          • His Holishjt, King Donald

            Please, enlighten me, what are the other factors? Hillary & Trump had the same goal , and he got it , she didn’t.

            You will say he cheated but that means Obama failed his duty and Trump pulled one over one of the smartest people alive.

          • JT

            There you go again. Your favorite assumption is that these people are supremely cunning but evil. So everything that allowed Drumpf to get an electoral victory has to have been the result of that.

          • His Holishjt, King Donald

            And your assumption has been they’re all stupid but won the lottery.

          • JT

            Here’s how outlandish your assumption is. “You will say he cheated but that means Obama failed his duty and Trump pulled one over one of the smartest people alive.” So, in your mind, even being aided by criminals and foreign forces had to have been the result of Drumpf’s “intelligence” winning over “one of the smartest people alive”.

          • His Holishjt, King Donald

            “being aided by criminals and foreign forces”
            They didn’t “aide” him without his or his people’s green-light. It didnt’ “happen” out of nowhere like hurricane Katrina.

            Obama & “the Americans” have the FBI, and gazillion other organizations at their disposal but after 9 months, nobody in the Trump campaign so much as facing a hearing.

            In short, Trump is so stupid, he:
            – Colluded with Vlad successfully
            – Got away with it, so far
            – Got the White House
            – Pulled a fast one under Obama’s nose
            – Got all his nods confirmed
            – Campaigned all the right places
            – Knew what to say to his base
            – Knew what NOT to say (went out of his way to avoid the “tranny bathroom” thing)
            – Kept 98% of his voters in tact, while only ~ 60% of Hillary voters would still vote for her. Sidebar: Hillary voters are supposed to be the smarter bunch, yet they’re looking at all this atrocities and regret their votes. Let that sink in

          • JT

            Again, you assume that every factor you say is involved had to have been due to “intelligence” on the part of Drumpf or his minions. You cite no evidence. You assume that every mistake made that didn’t prevent the outcome has to have been due to the superior cunning and smarts of Drumpf or his minions. Nice reasoning.

            Foreign powers and criminals had a vested interest in helping Drumpf and corrupting the electoral process with or without his “greenlighting” it.

            Your “theory” is an instance of the tail wagging the dog.

          • His Holishjt, King Donald

            Have you ever taken a look at his campaign schedule & the result? He won nearly ALL the places he campaigned more than once. What’s your explanation for that?

            “hahhah, Trump’s so stupid, he won the election and now keeps 98% of his voters in tact. Hillary’s so smart she lost the election and only ~60% of her voters would vote for her today.”

            “Foreign powers and criminals had a vested interest in helping Drumpf and corrupting the electoral process ”
            Obama couldn’t stop the foreign power when he was in power. Fat chance anything can be done about that part of the equation now.

            I wish I could think Trump was stupid.

            Anyway, have a good Monday.

          • JT

            Again, you’re letting the tail wag the dog. You have provided no evidence for any of your outlandish speculations. Your “hahhah” paragraph indicates how you reason. And “Obama couldn’t stop …” Everything that went Drumpf’s way had to be the result of superior cunning of Drumpf and the Trumpanzees.

          • His Holishjt, King Donald

            Already gave you the evidence of Tramp campaigned aggressively in those Rustbelt states to win the election. You have yet to give me a rebuttal of how that isn’t the work of the Trump’s minions.

          • JT

            You gave no evidence that anything done by the Drumpf campaign was out of the ordinary for a Rethug candidate behind in the polls. As for a rebuttal you mention, since you don’t give any argument except to claim everything must be due to the superior cunning of Drumpf minions, no rebuttal is required.

          • His Holishjt, King Donald

            BTW, I did say they messed up plenty but their fvck ups either didnt’ matter that much or they knew how to fix it.
            He hired Kellyanne who did a great job of defending him, didn’t he? He picked VP Mike Pence, didn’t he? Don’t tell me those picks weren’t better than Robby Mook and Tim Kane in terms of voters’ appeal

          • JT

            Oh, so his superior cunning let him down there, did it? But, of course, that superior cunning made that kind of mistake just a minor one, right?

          • His Holishjt, King Donald

            Which one let him down? His picks were much better for the campaign than Hillary’s.

            You must be one of the dems who think everybody who doesn’t want the same thing as you are just stupid and you can throw facts at them to change their minds.

            Have a nice life

          • JT

            You just admitted he made mistakes. Do you actually read what you write?

          • His Holishjt, King Donald

            Never said he didn’t make any mistake. Are you saying Kellyanne & Pence are mistakes????
            LOL come on, try harder

          • JT

            I guess in your lingo “messed up plenty” doesn’t mean what it usually means. Is that a specialist term for “applied their superior cunning”? You’re getting laughable.

          • His Holishjt, King Donald

            glad you can laugh.
            Just to be clear, you do think picking KellyAnne and Pence were “mistakes” ?

          • JT

            Also to be clear: according to your theory, everything must come out to be the result of superior cunning on the part of Drumpf and his minions.

            Wag the dog some more.

          • His Holishit, King Donald

            Already said he made mistakes, hence your statement “everything must come out to be the result of superior cunning” is irrelevant.
            You sound like “Bill_Perdue” boyfriend LOL

          • JT

            Ah, now go back to the first comment.

            You actually sound like the Perdouche himself.

          • Annie Coffman

            No one is saying Trump isn’t a clever grifter but let’s not forget Comey and those who voted for Stein in the three big swing states. The Stein votes alone ended Clinton’s chances and the constant attacks on Clinton before and since the election shows that stupidity isn’t just on the trailer trash right. Trump was handed the election.

      • CottonBlimp

        Winning elections isn’t a contest of intelligence, it’s a contest of popularity. Trump’s winning quality is that the imbeciles in this country recognize him as one of them. Seeing this man as some calculating genius is going to guarantee that you’re misreading every single action he takes. It also distracts you from the core problem, which is not that Trump brilliantly manipulated the public, but that the public has been primed to be idiotic enough to fall for this shit, a problem that is going to outlast Trump’s presidency significantly.

        • His Holishjt, King Donald

          He still won over one of the smartest person alive, didnt’ he? I had all the respect in the world for Hillary & Obama until TheGuardian published the piece on Christopher Steele & the Russians.

          “Seeing this man as some calculating genius is going to guarantee that you’re misreading every single action he takes.”
          I’m not saying there aren’t missteps . He’s generally insane and went off the rail unexpectedly but the bigger movements are always in line with the purpose of enriching himself & amassing power.

          • CottonBlimp

            He still won over one of the smartest person alive, didnt’ he?

            Do you think the world boxing champion is the planet’s greatest genius? Winning doesn’t equal intelligence if you’re playing a stupid game.

            Pundits said even during the election that Hillary’s greatest weakness was that she was too knowledgeable.

          • His Holishit, King Donald

            “Do you think the world boxing champion is the planet’s greatest genius?”

            False equivalency.

          • CottonBlimp

            I disagree. (Also, “false equivalency” means something different than “bad analogy”).

            Who wins Prom King in high school? Is it the smartest nerd in the chess club, or is it the team quarterback? Is that because the quarterback is some manipulative genius, or is it because intellect and strategy have diminishing returns in what is essentially a popularity contest voted on by idiots?

          • His Holishit, King Donald

            Boxing & prompt king/queen: mainly about physical attributes.

          • CottonBlimp

            Elections are much more about physical attributes than you realize. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jun/17/candidate-winning-look-voters-romney-obama

            And for a lot of 2016 voters, their vote was decided by the physical attribute of whether or not the candidate had a penis.

          • His Holishit, the Donald

            Besides having a wee-wee to appease to the sexists, Tramp is physically way more repulsive than Hillary

          • CottonBlimp

            Which is an asset in appealing to his repulsive base. He’s not some “elitist” like Obama, with six abs and only one chin.

            Fascism, ultimately, is not a movement of ideology, but a power fantasy for the sexually repressed. It only ever comes in one of two flavors; homoerotic idealization (think Nazi aryan boy propaganda and those flaming Hugo Boss outfits), or the fantasy of hideous, disgusting men getting everything they want, including women (which is why I think Trump’s “grab ’em by the pussy” comment might have actually helped more than hurt him). It’s the same reason the dudes look kind of gross in straight porn. The appearance that voters look for in an candidate is someone that projects strength, but also relatability. It’s frustratingly idiotic, but that’s our voter base, and you can see it playing out in every successful President since we elected a fake cowboy from Hollywood in 1980.

        • ” Trump’s winning quality is that the imbeciles in this country recognize him as one of them. ”

          Sho’ you right… another imbecile.

    • JCF

      They’re contributing to DESTROYING DEMOCRACY, all around the world.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3c205ee1a0b1bea93a6cae94ad30b140aae79f87186a78232cbfdcd4bdd0a27e.jpg

  • Ninja0980

    Does Faux and Republicans realize he could sue the crap out of them then?

  • Picabo

    See New York Times Co. v. Sullivan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Times_Co._v._Sullivan
    Court ruled 9-0 in favor of NYT.
    It was ” a landmark United States Supreme Court case that established the actual malice standard, which has to be met before press reports about public officials can be considered to be defamation and libel.”

    • coram nobis

      From Sullivan:

      Thus, we consider this case against the background of a profound national commitment to the principle that debate on public issues should be uninhibited, robust, and wide-open, and that it may well include vehement, caustic, and sometimes unpleasantly sharp attacks on government and public officials. …

      Authoritative interpretations of the First Amendment guarantees have consistently refused to recognize an exception for any test of truth — whether administered by judges, juries, or administrative officials — and especially one that puts the burden of proving truth on the speaker. … The constitutional protection does not turn upon “the truth, popularity, or social utility of the ideas and beliefs which are offered.” … As Madison said, “Some degree of abuse is inseparable from the proper use of every thing, and in no instance is this more true than in that of the press.”

      “Cases which impose liability for erroneous reports of the political conduct of officials reflect the obsolete doctrine that the governed must not criticize their governors. . . . The interest of the public here outweighs the interest of appellant or any other individual. The protection of the public requires not merely discussion, but information. . . . Whatever is added to the field of libel is taken from the field of free debate.”

  • DaveMiller135

    Wake me when the truth of a statement is no longer defense against it being libel.

    • MBear

      Truth belongs to he who can afford it

  • Henry Auvil

    Will we, the people be able to file a class action suit every time trump lies to us?

  • greenmanTN

    This would be entertaining if it weren’t so horrifying.

    But you can tell that even Rancid Pubis doesn’t think this has a chance in Hell of passing. Even he, gormless turd-fondler though he is, knows this isn’t going anywhere and he’s not even trying very hard to pretend he believes in it.

    • coram nobis

      It might pass Congress, which is capable of scribbling anything down and passing it. Getting the courts to overturn a textbook ruling (Sullivan) would be another matter entirely. Won’t fly.

    • yes b’y

      1000 upvotes for gormless turd-fondler

  • Max_1
    • MassageBear

      It’s a Bolshevic dance-off.

      • Max_1

        Dancing With The Kremlin…
        … It gets great ratings.

        • Mikey

          please to ignore gun shots from out back.. those are simply losers of last week’s elimination.

        • McSwagg

          “Dancing with the Tsars”

        • 2guysnamedjoe

          Dancing With The Tsars.

    • Elsewhere1010

      Silk Stockings? Cole Porter Russkies? Maybe even “The Red Blues”?

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      No way Dumpf is that athletic. His lard ass would sink to the floor due to relentless gravitational attraction.

  • Ninja0980
    • bkmn

      IRL is one of the few so-called moderate Rethugs out there but I won’t be sorry to see her go. I hope the South Florida Dems don’t fuck this seat up.

      • Adam King

        “Moderate Republican” is such a fucking oxymoron. If they were moderate they’d be Democrats.

        • Todd20036

          Most of the moderate republicans DID become democrats.

          The remaining republicans are all RWNJs. So yeah, oxymoron

          • Ninja0980

            They either became Democrats, lost in primaries or did what Richard Hanna did and throw in the towel and retire.

    • kaydenpat

      Great news.

  • bkmn

    The good thing is drafting Constitutional laws is tough (as evidenced by the courts overruling his executive orders on immigration) and Trump is not one for details. Combine that with his inability to work with others and I can’t see them passing much of anything but a poorly worded resolution.

  • MassageBear
    • Amazing, isn’t it, that the claim means this arena has never, ever sold out.

    • kaydenpat

      Weird that a President is holding post-election rallies.

      • MassageBear

        He’s going through that Sally Field-Oscar phase, ‘”You like me, you really, really like me DON’T YOU DAMMIT!’

    • MBear

      By the looks of that, they almost had a cumulative IQ of 100 in that building

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      That’s not true. If he shot himself in the middle of Times Square, I would care. I would watch the video over and over again at least 30 times. Ditto for all the remixes.

    • grada3784

      There’s really only one way to find out.

  • coram nobis

    It’s also interesting to note that Sullivan began as an attempt by Alabama officials to stifle the civil rights movement. The Sullivan court:

    What a State may not constitutionally bring about by means of a criminal statute is likewise beyond the reach of its civil law of libel. [Footnote 17] The fear of damage awards under a rule such as that invoked by the Alabama courts here may be markedly more inhibiting than the fear of prosecution under a criminal statute. … Alabama, for example, has a criminal libel law which subjects to prosecution “any person who speaks, writes, or prints of and concerning another any accusation falsely and maliciously importing the commission by such person of a felony, or any other indictable offense involving moral turpitude,” and which allows as punishment upon conviction a fine not exceeding $500 and a prison sentence of six months. … Presumably, a person charged with violation of this statute enjoys ordinary criminal law safeguards such as the requirements of an indictment and of proof beyond a reasonable doubt. These safeguards are not available to the defendant in a civil action. The judgment awarded in this case — without the need for any proof of actual pecuniary loss — was one thousand times greater than the maximum fine provided by the Alabama criminal statute, and one hundred times greater than that provided by the Sedition Act.

  • M Jackson
    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      LOL !

    • Adam King

      (Left out a few winners, like Hoover and Coolidge, just so they could normalize the undeservedly untouchable Eisenhower.)

  • Blackfork

    Just another pile of Trump dump that no one bothers to do anything about. It just lays there, people walk around it, until it rots away, forgotten.

  • coram nobis

    It’s not just <NYT Co. v. Sullivan that may be on point. See New York Times Co. v. U.S., 403 U.S. 713 (1971) — the Pentagon Papers case — in which the Nixon Administration sought, through a civil court remedy, to enjoin publication of the Times and other media. The Supreme Court wasn’t having that, either, and moved a lot more swiftly than it did in Sullivan.

    https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/403/713/case.html

    In the First Amendment, the Founding Fathers gave the free press the protection it must have to fulfill its essential role in our democracy. The press was to serve the governed, not the governors. The Government’s power to censor the press was abolished so that the press would remain forever free to censure the Government. The press was protected so that it could bare the secrets of government and inform the people. Only a free and unrestrained press can effectively expose deception in government. ….

    The Government does not even attempt to rely on any act of Congress. Instead, it makes the bold and dangerously far-reaching contention that the courts should take it upon themselves to “make” a law abridging freedom of the press in the name of equity, presidential power and national security, even when the representatives of the people in Congress have adhered to the command of the First Amendment and refused to make such a law. … To find that the President has “inherent power” to halt the publication of news by resort to the courts would wipe out the First Amendment and destroy the fundamental liberty and security of the very people the Government hopes to make “secure.” No one can read the history of the adoption of the First Amendment without being convinced beyond any doubt that it was injunctions like those sought here that Madison and his collaborators intended to outlaw in this Nation for all time.
    — Black, J., concurring

  • I look forward to Obama being able to sue trump over his past remarks.

    • BlindBill

      I look forward to 45 losing every case he has his lawyers pursue …. a published item is only liable is it is not true ….. and he would become individually subject to any modified laws as soon as he is out of office.

      He is such an embarrassment to the people, and a disaster for this country. I still cannot believe someone with such a lack of intellect could have made it to the highest office in the land without being in collusion of the Russians.

      • Acronym Jim

        I can’t believe someone with such a lack of intellect made it to the highest office in the land even with collusion of the Russians.

        • robindaybird

          I’m about certain the Russians never intended for him to win, but to muddle the waters to make Clinton’s election look illegitimate,Trump getting in was a plan that worked too well.

        • Chucktech

          Place the “lack of intellect” squarely where it belongs: The American people. “Lack of intellect,” to say the least.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada
    • Todd20036

      A better question is, do the RWNJs realize that? Do they care?

      • JCF

        ALMOST every member of my Episcopal choir, are progressives like me. But there’s *one* guy, who put an “I <3 the Constitution" bumpersticker on his car…

        …during *Obama's* presidency. But now???

    • Chucktech

      Even our friends in Canada have to school this asshole and his administration. How utterly mortifying.

  • Stephen Elliot Phillips

    This now after its been reported some states want to make it harder to protest.
    Boy. They sure do love freedom dont they? Their freedom from consequences

  • KnownDonorDad

    Never thought I’d see a time when I was this worried about freedom of the press in this country.

    • EweTaw

      Velkomen to the “new” Amerikkaa!

  • Paula

    I guess this is the first part of the constitution that they are going to go after. They will slowly begin to suppress more of our rights.

    • Adam King

      They’ve already destroyed the 4th Amendment, why not go after the 1st?

      • grada3784

        Why not? After all, only the 2nd one counts. And maybe the 10th.

        • Adam King

          The 2nd’s precious because it guarantees your right to blow shit up.

  • safari

    Baby’s fee fees hurt.

  • There’s no fucking way this proposal is even remotely Constitutional.

    I’ll say it: Reince Priebus hates America. He hates our system of government. He rejects the rule of law. He openly objects to the ideals of freedom & liberty. And in this statement right here on national TV, he has violated his oath of office as Chief of Staff for the President and his vow to the Constitution itself.

    • Adam King

      Every last Republican wants only to blow shit up. Destruction and hoarding money are the only things they value.

  • yes b’y

    I hope everyone from here that lives in Texas is ok.

    • grada3784

      Abbott was looking for donations. I’ll donate my thoughts and prayers. Otherwise, I don’t mess with Texas.

      I will second your hope, though.

      • EweTaw

        I’m right behind you. I’m sending all my thoughts and prayers, too. Bless their hearts.

    • Adam King

      (Though it’s pretty damn hard to be okay if you have to live in Texas.)

      • yes b’y

        Well at least everything is big there.

  • 2guysnamedjoe

    Nazi scum, every fucking one of them.

    • yup. i’d really like everyone to join in that song. i want people to think about it, people who usually don’t. godwin’s law has been shattered, in a very real and meaningful sense. it’s important when people try to make excuses for being a modern republican, it’s either force them to say they support nazis, out loud in front of other people, or slap them with a fish. punching for the ones who are enthusiastic about nazis is also acceptable.

  • AJD

    I suspect they’ll try to go after shield laws, which are what allow reporters to protect anonymous sources by making it so they don’t have to reveal who they are.

    • coram nobis

      Federal rules of evidence don’t have an explicit reporters’ shield law, though many states do (you’ll find then under evidentiary-privilege, usually). Common-law privileges tend to be old traditional rules like husband-wife, doctor-patient and whatnot.

      Rule 501. Privilege in General
      The common law — as interpreted by United States courts in the light of reason and experience — governs a claim of privilege unless any of the following provides otherwise:

      the United States Constitution;
      a federal statute; or
      rules prescribed by the Supreme Court.
      But in a civil case, state law governs privilege regarding a claim or defense for which state law supplies the rule of decision.
      — Fed. R. of Evid.

      Evidence professor: Describe the doctor-patient privilege.

      Me: That gives the patient or client the right to prevent the doctor from disclosing confidential information in evidence. Doctor-patient, or psychiatrist-patient. Inadmissible if the patient raises the privilege.

      Evidence professor: Or psychologist-patient, or therapist-patient, or social worker and client? How far does the privilege extend among the spectrum of mental-health workers?

      Me: That depends on how Jung they are.
      Class: EWWWW.

    • canoebum

      “Congress shall make no law…abridging the freedom of speech or of the press”. They’re going to have a hard time getting around that one. The same Article states that Congress shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise of religion. If they try to restrict the press, who’s to say it has to stop there? We can start restricting religion, too. That’s why this particular wetdream is going nowhere fast.

  • MonochromeMouse

    This is so far past fucked up that I can’t even think of the words to describe it. In any other country, or even this one at any other point in history, would have had the pitchforks and guillotines out and in heavy use. Fascism cannot and must not be tolerated, period.

    • MBear

      It is not only tolerated, it is welcomed.

      Which tells us everything we need to know about americans

      • Todd20036

        This is not the country I grew up in.

        • MBear

          Perhaps it was, but you didnt notice because 1) you didnt know any different, 2) the propaganda is highly effective, 3) your privilege blinded you, or 4) all of the above…?

  • kaydenpat

    Fascists. Why is anyone shocked? Trump promised to do this during his campaign. So I guess the press will take him seriously when he turns on them. Good to know.

  • Gil

    Rinse works for the ” Liar in Chief “….What would you expect ? Beyond stupid….

  • Jack

    THIS is the proof that he isn’t fit to be president, and his supporters aren’t fit to decide who should be president.

    Libel and slander are common law torts. They are exceptions to Free Speech.

    If he’s concerned about the press, then he needs to get his case ready for the Supreme Court, because it’s really hard to defame a president. Truth, of course, is an absolute defense. Opinions are never defamation.

  • grada3784

    He thinks they looked at it?

    Doesn’t he know what he’s looked at?

  • Cuberly

    OT: For those of you following the NYT Bret Stephens kerfuffle, it’s been getting a ton of play on twitter. Stephens is on the defensive for his most recent column, which if you’ve read it was beyond insane. Right-wing nay-saying, for the sake of fingerwagging at liberals and scientists, accusing them of less than virtuous intentions, it was dreadful. Well, he’s been emailing and posting his defense, condescending and blatantly ignorant defense if you will. Think Andrew Sullivan.

    I’m glad people aren’t letting him get away with this, that they’re giving the NYT a lot of grief for publishing such an ignorant opinion piece. Further evidence of the creeping CNN-styled bothsiderism encroaching and offering nothing but whiney bs.

    https://twitter.com/DylanByers/status/858757172167135232

    • Does he have reasonably good credentials in arithmetic, too?

      • Cuberly

        lol….

    • EweTaw

      Sounds like a pissy queen to me. Hard to deny that.

      • Cuberly

        He flipped to pissy victim mode in a New Your minute, and he just keeps digging.

  • Ignatius J. Reilly

    In that’s case Fox News will be out of business before the ink is dry on that bill.

  • They would have to change the Constitution to make that happen. The freedom of the press is there in the first amendment precisely to prevent government officials from harassing newspapers for printing stories they don’t like. That’s why we all learned about the trial of John Peter Zenger in history class. That is EXACTLY what the founders intended to prevent from happening under our new constitution.

    Also, the nerve. He accused Obama of having been born in Kenya for years but now wants to alter the liberal laws to allow himself to sue newspapers? Seriously?

  • BobSF_94117

    Ya notice how no one is talking about Russia anymore?

    • houstonray

      Rachel and MSNBC are…but then again, they were basically called conspiracy theorist nut jobs by Hasan last night at the WHCD. I enjoyed every other thing he did, all the jokes on the media outlets were spot on but that one was a little over the top. The very journalists in that room are the ones that should be investigating every Russia story connection and it should not have been connected to a “conspiracy theory”.

      • Jukesgrrl

        Bernstein and Woodward made really good points about how this kind of work is a marathon and not a sprint. Deposing Nixon was not done in weeks — it took years. Yes, there was an independent prosecutor and a televised hearing but that FOLLOWED years of groundwork laid by reporters no one ever heard of assisted by low-level government functionaries.

    • MBear

      Perhaps because there is SO MUCH batshittery. Doesn’t mean it’s forgotten…?

  • houstonray

    Remember,

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1b253373b417f0597e6dfdb84d608946286ec0e95d298e1f679f9e508e2c5c57.png

    Without question, it will most definitely be:
    THE MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION OF OUR LIFETIME.

    • Todd20036

      It will either be the ultimate repudiation of Trump, or the full acceptance of him.

      If the latter, I will live to see this country die as a democracy

      • canoebum

        If the latter, I’m selling my house and moving to Colombia.

        • Todd20036

          Why Colombia? And Not Canada, or New Zealand?

          • canoebum

            My Latin fiancé…abrazos y besos!

          • Todd20036

            SLUT!

          • KarenAtFOH

            Colombia has become a popular expat place. It has low cost of living, good quality of life, good services, stable government.

    • AJD

      That was 2016. But unfortunately a lot of people didn’t fucking get it and still don’t.

    • MBear

      As if there there will be fair elections in 2018?!? LOL

    • I feel we’re about 50/50 now whether there will be elections or if they will be free & fair.

      The Russian meddling didn’t stop. It’s still happening. And the Republicans continue gleefully to undermine and dismantle our country’s democracy.

      • Cattleya1

        Doubtless, Rancid Prepuce would have the Constitution changed to give the red states twice as many electoral votes as they now have.

        • Jukesgrrl

          Why doesn’t he just cut to the chase and say only white men who own property can vote. Then we won’t have to worry about red states and blue states.

          • Cattleya1

            Shhh! Don’t give them any more bad ideas – they have a surfeit of them as it is.

      • Paula

        Greg Abbott already has the results of the 2018 Governors Race in Texas.
        He will receive 4,298,894 votes of the 3,600,875 of the votes that will be cast.

        • McSwagg

          It’ll be a cake walk … er, roll.

      • Ross

        Republicans stole 2000.

        Republicans stole 2004.

        Russia stole 2016 for Republicans.

        I don’t have much confidence in 2018.

        I really don’t.

        • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

          The only antidote is high turnout.

  • jefe5084

    If he hates the Constitution so much, than why run for President. Why not just move to Transylvania? or become a citizen of his beloved Russia and move in with Puttie-pie.

  • justmeeeee

    Where’s ole Rancid been lately? I’d thought he was out on his ass, but I guess there’s a few breaths left in the old bugger yet.

  • geoffalnutt

    Preibus is the enemy of America and Democracy. Idiot.

  • Cerberus

    Unless they write that shit really narrowly, they’re going to be unpleasantly surprised when every person ever slandered by Fox News or Breitbart or Alex Jones sue those networks into the ground for their many many abuses.

    So yeah, assholes, try and save your fuhrer and by doing so eliminate your ability to propagandize once and for all.

    • His Holishjt, King Donald

      Good point.

      I dont’ see nutjobs like LimpBall or Alex Jones having the verbal skills to avoid lawsuits. On the other hand, they’ll gain even more press from those suits

    • coram nobis

      What Rinse Prius and Donald Trump want is a law where public officials can sue any news outlet for any defamation, in a civil proceeding where the defendant would have to prove what they wrote was 100% true, and even then maybe not. Alex Jones and the others might be liable if at any time they were in any way critical of Our Leader.

      For that matter, JMG and everybody on it would be liable as well, since every day seems to have something that is less than adulatory of Our Dear Sweet Leader.

      • You mean the rumors about Donald’s goat-blowing addiction?

        • coram nobis

          They call it animal husbandry in these parts, pilgrim!

          • Steverino

            Is that what the kids call bestiality, nowadays?

        • Todd20036

          Only if he got the goats drunk, first.

          • coram nobis

            That may be legal for goats unless it involves kids.

          • jefe5084

            HA! I saw what you did there. Don’t think I didn’t.

        • KarenAtFOH

          He gets them to pee on him first.

      • Bad Tom

        Rather than breaking up the Ninth Circuit, Trump would have to triple the size of all the Circuits to handle the load!

    • jefe5084

      Yeah, this will be a fun one if it ever happens. I’m going to get a few law suits going against some evangelist preachers who are actually acting as news sources who called me names and said bad things about me (well all of us, but I am very fragile and only money can help me).

  • greenmanTN

    Apologist for a sociopath. It must be like a dream come true for him.

    • canoebum

      What the fuck went wrong with Wisconsin? Paul Ryan, Scott Walker…and this asshole! Plus the crazy GOP legislature.. Jeez..

      • greenmanTN

        I would say she isn’t very happy, but then she did name him Rience, so obviously she’s had it out for him since day one.

    • greenmanTN

      New litter of kittens, 3 female, one male. My sister has already named the girls Etta, Loretta, and Patsy. Boy doesn’t have a name yet. (Yes, mama and the kittens will spayed/neutered if we keep them. Anybody want a kitten? Delivery might be by catapult. *rimshot*)

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/09b94f0eb5cb9a0d24c833290471f36077d7385faa230f3aa6203e4db9982e4f.jpg

  • ByronK

    So if he doesn’t like the decisions of a court, he’ll dismantle it. If he doesn’t like news coverage of himself, he’ll sue them. Hey, Rancid Pubic, are you sure you don’t see a disturbing trend here? Or are you too busy on your knees sucking for orange juice?

    • KarenAtFOH

      Ewwwwwwww…….

      • jefe5084

        It’s only been 100 days and change. He’s probably got an electron microscope set up to look for something that he may be able to suck for orange juice. So no sucking yet.

      • Alexander Crouton-Skitch

        Orange Prebius

  • Richard, another Canuck

    Reposted from Rachel Maddow’s Facebook page:

    Donald Trump was visiting a primary school in Orlando and visited a
    grade four class. They were in the middle of a discussion related to
    words and their meanings.
    The teacher asked Mr.Trump if he would
    like to lead the discussion on the word ‘tragedy.’ So our illustrious
    POTUS asked the class for an example of a ‘tragedy’.

    One little boy stood up and offered: “If my best friend, who lives on a
    farm, is playing in the field and a tractor runs him over and kills
    him, that would be a tragedy.”
    “No,” said Trump, “that would be an accident.”

    A little girl raised her hand: “If a school bus carrying 50 children
    drove off a cliff, killing everyone, that would be a tragedy.”
    “I’m afraid not,” explained Trump. “That’s what we would call great loss.”
    The room went silent. No other child volunteered. Trump searched the room.
    “Isn’t there someone here who can give me an example of a tragedy?”
    Finally at the back of the room, Little Johnny raised his hand. The teacher held her breath.

    In a quiet voice he said: “If the plane carrying you was struck by a
    ‘friendly fire’ missile and blown to smithereens that would be a
    tragedy.”
    “Fantastic!” exclaimed Trump, “That’s right. And can you tell me why that would be a tragedy?”

    “Well,” says Johnny, “It has to be a tragedy, because it sure as hell
    wouldn’t be a great loss… and you can bet your sweet ass it wouldn’t
    be an accident either!”
    The teacher left the room.
    #Repost 😂😂#Resist

    • jefe5084

      LOL. Good one.

    • I’d call it cause for a National Holiday, but yeah, OK kid.

  • Bad Tom

    Mr. Priebus, have you also discussed how you’re going to rewrite the Constitution to make “governing” easier for Mr. Trump?

    I’m sure you base would be fine with it.
    They’ll go along with literally anything, up to and including nuclear armageddon.

  • Sam_Handwich

    hilarious coming from a spox for America’s leading birther bozo

    meanwhile, everything that’s been written about these trashy frauds has been true……including the article about Melania being a high priced whore

    • EweTaw

      I wonder what her medical records might reveal regarding STDs and stuff.

      • Todd20036

        So THAT’S what Drumpf meant about his personal Vietnam

  • Larry in Oklahoma

    Sorry, Prince Remus, you can’t do that. You can frighten and terrorize people but the T-rump administration’s days are numbered….even if it goes two terms, it’s still numbered.

  • Cuberly

    OT: I’ve been wondering if the uber-crazy coming out of the Trump camp the last few days was an intended distraction from something coming down the pike. Oops.

    https://twitter.com/thehill/status/858145063368634368

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Ha! So – – – another LIE!!

      • Cuberly

        This was from Friday, it sure isn’t getting a lot of play.

        • Dreaming Vertebrate

          The 100-days frenzy (that seem like 100 years) sucked up all the oxygen.

    • Lazycrockett

      Yeah Rachel let this fly on Thursday.

      • Cuberly

        lol…I’m late to the party…as usual.

        • Lazycrockett

          Not at all Rachel is like NPR it takes several days for the rest to catch up.

      • canoebum

        There was a note on Daily Kos about two Federal grand juries having started to hear evidence. I hope it’s true and the indictments start soon. I’m not sure how much more of this the country can take.

  • Lazycrockett
    • jefe5084

      Oh. At first I was asking “Dan would rather what….? Land?”

  • Lazycrockett

    Just wanted to wish you all an early “Loyalty” Day.

  • EweTaw

    It is much easier to change presidents. We’re working on that. But Reince needs to be retired from any contact with politicians, politics, government agencies, and government work in general. He is uniquely unqualified to advise anyone. He’s never worked in government before (working for a political party is not government work), he does not have the requisite education and background. He’s obviously not concerned with keeping the Constitution healthy and functioning. It’s too bad Trump’s supporters feel so disenfranchised by politicians. I suspect if they had better educations their situation would be much different. But the Republicans have never been on the side of education, especially publicly funded schools. So, I don’t see the situation changing any unless something dramatic happens, such as the sudden adequate funding of all public schools.

    I suspect by the time I die they actually will try to change the 1st Amendment, add amendments that enshrine a national religion, and other more insidious stuff I really don’t want to think about.

    • canoebum

      Or…in 2018 the Democrats come out to vote, retake the Congress then impeach him, and Pence.

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    OT: Michelangelo has an article on HuffPo which explains why Trump will inevitably attack the LGBT community to keep his bloodthirsty fundie base happy.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/why-donald-trumps-second-100-days-will-be-even-worse-for-lgbtq-equality_us_59037e66e4b02655f83d21ba?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

    • Ninja0980

      If he loses them, he’ll have no one.

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    Just five hours until Loyalty Day!
    Show your support for Gawd-Emperor Dumpf by including his favorite things in your posts.
    1. Praise Putin for +10 points!
    2. A mention of pee-pee ladies garners your post +20 points.
    3. Slip in a “pussy” for +30 points!
    Maximum point winner gets a free seat at the next Trump Loyalty Rally!
    #MAGA

    • Sam_Handwich

      i haven’t even retrieved my Loyalty Day yard decorations from the attic yet. and i still gotta make 6 dozen cupcakes. i’m so behind!!

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        As long as the cupcakes are ready. Decorate each with a bold letter M, A, G or A and you’ve got both decorations and treats.
        {tummy rumbles}

      • ByronK

        I’m furiously rolling Loyalty Day joints.

        • Sam_Handwich

          you’re doing the lord’s work. bless you

    • grada3784

      Praise to Tsar Putin and his pussy-groping lap dog, widdle Donnie as they bathe together in the golden showers of the peepee ladies.

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        OK, … this one is gonna be hard to beat.
        Folks, we have a front-runner!

    • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

      I’ve hung my blazing Trump decorations on my Loyalty Tree.

      So pretty.

    • houstonray

      Pussy pulling pee pee ladies praise Putin!

  • Galvestonian

    I don’t think there are any specific libel laws for expressing freedom of speech – especially when it’s true.

    • Natty Enquirer

      Truth is an absolute defense to libel. But “freedom of speech” isn’t absolute. There are circumstances under which you may be held civilly liable for your speech.

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        None of which applies to Trump, except perhaps all the many people in his previous career that he has made sign non-disclosure agreements. I would love for a court to decide that since he is now an elected political figure that those non-disclosure agreements are null & void.

        • Natty Enquirer

          If you publish a defamatory, factual, and untrue statement about Donald Trump, with knowledge that it is false or with reckless disregard for its veracity, you could be sued. That’s the standard for a public figure in the U.S.

  • Jeffrey

    No. Reince masturbates thinking about having that kind of power but he does NOT have it and we are NOT giving it to him.

  • jimbo65

    O/T: So it looks like the Gorgon, aka Sebastian Gorka is getting the boot. Supposedly over his Nazi sentiment and PhD. Just one more pretzel for Spicey to bake at tomorrow’s press briefing. A drop in the bucket of WH causalties, considering how infested it is with like minded white supremacists et al.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/sebastian-gorka-out-of-white-house-after-controversies-over-neo-nazi-connections-and-phony-ph-d/

    • Lazycrockett

      “Obviously the Obama Administration allowed Gorka to have these Anti-Semitic ideology.”

    • BobSF_94117

      “Out” but employed elsewhere, no? Loyalty pays off…

      • jimbo65

        True. It’s all a shell game.

  • PabloDali

    Rancid Pubis says what ??

    Now sue me, bitch !

  • Nowhereman

    Why do republicans hate America?

    • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

      *Why do Russians hate America?

      FTFY

      • Nowhereman

        I think they hate everybody just for starters.

  • Gianni

    “I think it’s something that we’ve looked at,” said Reince Priebus,
    appearing on ABC’s This Week. “How that gets executed and whether that
    goes anywhere is a different story.”……First, it seems that Reince isn’t sure the WH has gone over this subject and second, In all fairness, he is stating the doubtful success of this having any chance of getting legal traction and actually going anywhere. He knows it won’t, but, I suppose he doesn’t have the stones to actually slap Donnie over the head with that fact. It sounds like he feels that just letting the President run with this nutty idea is the best way to handle it. When it fails, Trump will whine and cry and they can then move on to the next big failure.

  • safari

    At some point in time, this man and his colleagues chose to be villains.

    • Ross

      I am pretty sure they were born villainous.

  • jefe5084

    Here is an interesting article from ProPublica that discusses this issue.

    Donald Trump and the Return of Seditious Libel

    https://www.propublica.org/article/donald-trump-and-the-return-of-seditious-libel

    • coram nobis

      With Donald, it’s more personal, so the term we’re looking for may be lèse majesté, something like they have in Thailand, say, regarding their royal family.

      • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

        May the impeachment begin on Victoria Day, May 22. D would not be amused.

        http://inktank.fi/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/trump-photoshop-queen-elisabeth-7-730×1030.jpg

        • jefe5084

          Queen Tangerine the Less-than-Great of Russia.

      • jefe5084

        Perhaps. He has no majesty, or dignity for that matter. So that will be a long shot. I just don’t see any of this happening, really. I don’t think many are making things up about him, he is making things up about himself. Very Narcissistic and delusional. He can’t understand why anyone doesn’t see how grand he is, how handsome. Too bad lying isn’t unconstitutional, but then we would have no politicians at all. Wait…

  • baruchzed

    Dear wannabe dictator…you don’t get to “change the laws.” That’s not how it works.

    Yes your nazi minions are marching in the streets, but every time they do there are more people protesting against them, AND your nazis have to come from far and wide to make up a crowd while localities easily provide larger crowds of locals. You and your nazis are outnumbered. Get over your delusions of grandeur because it isn’t going to happen. The US will not become a nazi state, tRump will not become dictator, and the republicans will be held accountable for their treason.

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    David Frum needs to understand this one fact: It isn’t all Priebus, it’s the whole fucking party. Instead of thinking it’s ONLY Trump or only Trump’s circle, it’s the whole rotten GOP. Seriously, why the hell does he admire Rinse Peanuts?

  • ByronK
  • jefe5084

    Rinse Prepuce has become such a douche. He and Paul Ayn Ryan Rand. Too many fatty Wisconsin Cheeses and bratwursts as suckling babies.

  • Lindoro Almaviva

    Good luck with that sweetheart. Call me when you get it done, OK?

  • DesertSun59

    Republicans always have to change rules, move goalposts and LIE to get their way.

    • David L. Caster

      Yup. That’s their way. They cannot win honestly. That’s because the are all only out for themselves and their wealthy benefactors.

    • Ross

      True.

      And this is the ONLY way they can get what they want because the overwhelming majority of Americans do not agree with their policies.

  • Alexander Crouton-Skitch

    Well, they’ve got the market cornered on the distraction game, so who is surprised by this?

  • labman57

    In Donnie’s world, any reporter or news media agency that challenges or criticizes his public statements and policy positions should be regarded as an “enemy of the state” and therefore be silenced by any means necessary.

  • Ross

    TRUMP: “The moon is made of cheese!”

    MEDIA: Trump says “The moon is made of cheese!”

    TRUMP: “I will sue you!”

    Yep. I am pretty sure the courts will be OK with this.

  • Paula Key

    Pravada will be impressed.

  • Cuberly

    OT: Well, this happened.

    I frequently stay up nights wondering what Fabio thinks of early release of inmates.

    https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/858122058286342144

    • Sam_Handwich

      as ridiculous as it is, it’s not difficult to imagine the fat cats at Fox News sitting around discussing how to to do damage control over their sex abuse scandal and concluding “The womens love Fabio, get him on tonight!

      • Cuberly

        Yep, attempting to skew Tucker VonClowStick Wilburberforce Tushinghamshire Beurigarde HasenPfeffer Carlson the III’s show some sort of edge.

        Desperately so.

    • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

      Fabio’s expertise on inmates, on release, on things early or late is what, exactly?

      http://booklikes.com/upload/post/c/0/c02399815e429f3da507b9918be594d3.gif

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      I can’t believe it’s not bitter.

    • DaddyRay

      The booking department over at Fox is obviously getting desperate

      • Cuberly

        They’re looking for a Scott Baio replacement.

        • EweTaw

          With Fabio, at least they know he’s packing. With Baio? The rumors we’ve heard about him are true.

          • Cuberly

            Heh…

    • paganguy

      What do expect from someone who can’t tell the difference between margarine and butter?

      • Lazycrockett

        or someone who let a doctor pull his face like that.

    • Michael R

      The last time we ever needed to hear from Fabio is when a goose hit him on a roller coaster in 1999 , are the ladies behind him covered in Fabio juice ?

      https://s4.postimg.org/hxzpa6jyl/fabio_goose.jpg

      • Cuberly

        Seems that goose may have hit him a little to hard.

        • EweTaw

          Not hard enough, if you ask me.

          • Cuberly

            Fabio gras

    • jefe5084

      Fox pulling in the big guns again? Dang when did this guy become relevant? Or Tucker either, for that matter.

      • Cuberly

        Get ready for Fabio the victim, the “conservatives in hollywood are being discriminated against” litany in 5…4…3..

    • fuzzybits

      USA,USA!

    • BobSF_94117

      Oh, dear. Fabio says California is going to heck. I guess that’s it for the Golden State.

      • Cuberly

        I don’t think I can sleep tonite, thinking CA is going to pot.

    • Blake J Butler

      He hasn’t been relevant since his butter commercial days.

      He wasn’t hot then, and he’s not hot now.

      NEXT!

      I’d rather have the guy in Meet the Fockers, that is a Puertorican version of Ben Stiller. Who grew up to be hot, and gay.

      • jefe5084

        i never thought he was hot. 4 things for me: kind of a horse face; hairless; too long hair on head, and overly gym-ratted.

  • DaddyRay
  • Michael R


    I made this pizza with pepperoni , feta, onions and red pepper .
    Walmart sells a frozen dough ball for under a dollar !
    I can preheat the oven , throw it together , bake it
    and finish cleaning the kitchen in under 20 minutes .
    I am not a professional actress , I am an ordinary housewife like yourself
    ( that’s a 16 inch pizza with large pepperoni )

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/46d9b6341fe2e6afb68d80b02ec2ff8a988b20639b52fd0a48c10382530a8854.jpg

    • Lazycrockett

      What’s the dough like? I have been trying for years to find a decent dough recipe or pre made. My favorite dough is from an Alton Brown recipe but it takes 40 some hours to be ready.

      • Michael R

        It’s fine , just basic ingredients , you can take it from the freezer to the fridge the night before you use it and it’s ready to use from the fridge at dinner time , I sometimes make my own .

    • Jerry Kott

      Recently, I have made several attempts at making Cauliflower crust Pizza. It was time consuming , but was an interesting twist on Pizza. Getting the crust just right was a challenge.

      • jefe5084

        have to squeeze the living crap out of it to get the moisture out. I finally got it to work. I liked it. But it is a bit of work.

        • Jerry Kott

          getting the moisture out is the challenge but it sort of worked. I use lots of paper towels.

          • jefe5084

            I eventually put it in the middle of a clean cotton dish cloth, gathered up the four corners, and started twisting to squeeze the moisture through the cloth.

          • Jerry Kott

            I saw that one, it seems to work.

    • EweTaw

      That’s some big pepperoni you have there.

    • fuzzybits
    • Bryan

      We started doing something similar with Safeway pizza balls and a bundt cake bowl. You add the cheeses, spices, dough and pepperoni and when it gets all cooked up and raised you’ve got a pull-apart pepperoni cheesebread.

  • fuzzybits

    He thinks they have. Doesn’t he know? Have another drinkie rinsed.

  • Jerry Kott

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/62e4c30e57b9f8a14c3c1aca9d370110fb324d85efb8a38f1a514bd42286dcd4.jpg

    On a lighter note, we welcomed a new member to our family today. She is a 4 year old female Aussie with a heart of gold and has had a challenging life . We hope to be her forever home. We recently said a sad good bye to her predecessor . It is always a challenge to connect the dots as far as their history goes to understand their behavior. In this every crazy world, our furry one will remind us of the joy of just being.

    • Congratulations! And give my love to that pretty lady. One word of advice – forget the “history” and concentrate on the now. Spoil her rotten, love her to pieces, give her lots of toys and play with her for hours on end – no matter what horrors she’s been through, you’ll make her new life one of love and joy.

      • Jerry Kott

        Thank you, will do. We rescued before and it does help to connect the dots in understand, especially age and to how they respond. She will be Queen. She has had 4 different name. Those blue eyes can pierce your soul. We are excited to share our lives with her.

    • EweTaw

      Congrats on your new family member. Australian Shepherds are very smart, probably the best dogs for doing complex math. I’m sure she’ll fit right in. I had one in college named Freaker, because she had such a freak face. Her only odd behavior was lounging on the lawn and eating all bees in patches of clover.

      • LOL! I’ve had 2 over the years, both male. Spook while I was still in Jr.. High, and on the farm – best damned herding dog in the world, and we didn’t have to teach him a thing. Fergus was a senior rescue, long past his playful days but still a loving joy to be with. Sadly I got him at 12, and only had him for 3 years before he passed in his sleep.

        • fuzzybits

          Thank you for rescuing an older dog.

          • If you’d met Fergus, you’d understand why his age meant nothing to me. If it’s 4-legged and furry it’s MINE! Met him at Gay Pride in Las Vegas, the local rescue shelter brought him. I never “pick” my furbabies – I let them pick me. I sat on the ground in the middle of all these dogs, and Fergumeister flopped down with his head in my lap, rolled those gray-blue eyes up at me and I was mush.

          • fuzzybits

            That’s cool. I just know a lot of people pass up on a lot of love with senior cats and dogs.

          • Jerry Kott

            How sweet! We have a sweet match with our previous dog that was almost divine.

          • MBear

            I couldnt do that. Id still want all of them

        • Jerry Kott

          This is the 3rd female and one male over 30 years. Wonderful creatures. Sorry for your loss but the memories will fill your heart with joy.

          • It’s been over 20 years since Fergus passed, yet I still miss the best bed-warmer I’ve ever had. If the Gods are kind I’ll have him with me again. I’d about kill to have a dog again, but with being a renter and no fenced yard that’s not only unfeasible, it’s cruel to the animal. Someday another houndapooch will find me – meantime I’ll just concentrate on spoiling the yowler.

          • Jerry Kott

            Thanks. We live on an old un working farm with some land, so we take advantage of the circumstance. We let them be who they are. Training has already begun with basic commands. Someday a furry creature will walk into you life.

          • EweTaw

            Even with more than just a big yard it can be a trial to have a dog in the city. My back yard opens out into a beautiful canyon and mountains, but it’s a water shed area for the city. So dogs are forbidden. And when my dog does keep to the property or sticks close on long walks in the foothills he seems real good at finding every rattle snake in the area. He’s been bitten three times and still doesn’t seem to have figured out they are to be avoided. But I guess he’s worth all of the hundreds of dollars I’ve had to pay to spring him from the local pet pokey. I recently returned home after a long stay in another country. Not only was he happy to see me, he won’t leave my side. It’s a good thing dogs are forgiving. 🙂

          • jefe5084

            I had a terrier who could not learn to leave porcupines alone. Oh man. pulling those quills out. Ugh.

          • Duck

            My roomie’s Smooth Fox Terrier desperately want to be friends with that black and white cat he occasionally sees in the back yard, you know, the one with the fluffy tail that is always showing his butt? I think his name might be Pepe la something…

    • MikeBx2

      Beautiful!

      • Jerry Kott

        Thank you

    • coram nobis

      Lovely.

      • Jerry Kott

        Thanks

    • DaddyRay

      Who could say no to that face – such a beautiful girl

      • Jerry Kott

        thanks, and I agree. Native Americans called them Ghost Dogs for a reason.

    • Michael R
    • Cuberly

      Congratulations…actually I’m jealous…lol…

      Aussies can be quite the handful. Smart smart dogs.

      • Jerry Kott

        so we have herd! We have always seem to have perfect matches. Once you have experienced the Spirit of an Aussie, it would be a challenge to go to another breed. We have adopted 3 and got one as a puppy. All have been bundles of joy and tooooo smart.
        Thank you

    • worstcultever

      now THAT’s a dawg. congrats to you both!

    • jefe5084

      excellent. Thank you for doing that for her.

    • Ninja0980

      Good doggie!

    • houstonray

      She is JUST beautiful…!!!! Congrats!!!

      • Jerry Kott

        Thank you- the beginning of another journey.

    • Bryan

      Too cute for words, lovely.

      • Jerry Kott

        Thanks- now is the challenge to be on the same page .

  • SoCalGal20

    I probably missed where this was discussed but Ros-Lehtenin is retiring so her Miami district should flip in 2018. THis guy works for Sabato.

    https://twitter.com/kkondik/status/858725167459160064

    • Blake J Butler

      She needed to go, LGBT rights aside, she still voted with the republicans most of the time, she was a dinosaur in the GOP and a successor is going to be rabid and vehemently anti-LGBT as 99.5 percent of them are with us.

      • SoCalGal20

        Hillary won this district by like 20 points. It SHOULD be a pretty easy Dem pick up.

  • MikeBx2

    Politifact would rate this mostly true. haha
    https://twitter.com/codykeenan/status/858851380550881281

    • houstonray

      Please tell me this is satire….it’s late on a Sunday and I. just. can’t.

      • MikeBx2

        Haha. Yes while it’s totally believable that Fox would try to spin it that way, he meant it as a joke. 🙂

  • Michael R

    Disturbing Russia news with Brian Brown in it …

    Retired CIA expert: US far-right is getting duped by Russia and it’s ‘part of something bigger’

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/retired-cia-expert-us-far-right-is-getting-duped-by-russia-and-its-part-of-something-bigger/

    • SoCalGal20

      Here’s a link to the original WaPo story.

      https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/858827924589473794

      • BobSF_94117

        “very much in line”

        And Putin bans religions and persecutes Mormons, Baptists, etc.

        It really is all about guns and money for these traitors.

        • Silver Badger

          The Russian Orthodox Church does not share well. Anybody not an Orthodox Christian is a heretic.

          • BobSF_94117

            It’s not about heresy. It’s about $$$$$$.

          • Silver Badger

            IMHO, it’s about raw power. The money is nice too.

          • BobSF_94117

            Bri-Bri has been on this gig for over a decade. He has amassed what power? On the other hand, he takes home an easy half-mil a year. I think he enjoys the power. I think he works for the money.

          • Silver Badger

            I was referring to the Russian Orthodox Church.

          • BobSF_94117

            Sorry, I thought this was from a Bri-Bri discussion.

            Yes, the ROC wants power, but they also have gotten a lot of money out of the deal with Putin. He’s returning a LOT of property to them, some of which has no use any longer except as real estate to sell.

    • safari

      I remember watching as Free Republic came under their spell in my days of reading their thoughts.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      … and Franklin Graham. How many tentacles does this Russian story have??

    • So are elements of the far left who listened to the anti-Clinton propaganda from Russia. Worse, most of ’em have no idea how badly they were duped.

  • Nowhereman

    I swear, the only part of our constitution that these RWNJs like is the second amendment, and only the last half of it at that.

  • Vista-Cruiser

    Yes this is terrible. But it’s also a direct and foreseeable result of Democrats not bothering to vote.

    • The_Wretched

      No, it is not. And way to blame the victims.

      • Vista-Cruiser

        Statistically, most Americans who vote in every election lean Republican, while most who don’t vote at all lean Democratic. Occasional voters fall somewhere in between.

        If the Democratic Party could persuade most of those non-voters to start voting, it would be enough to overcome the Republicans’ voter suppression tactics, including the gerrymandering, purging of voter lists, and closing of polling places.

  • BobSF_94117

    I swear, they disappear for a few weeks and come back looking all taut-skinned and shiny. Very odd.

  • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

    Somewhat O/T, but one more proof of the amateurism of the Trump Regime.

    https://twitter.com//858861886716227584

  • DesertSun59

    It is quite literally impossible to change libel laws to only apply to what the POTUS days or does.

    IMPOSSIBLE.

  • Blake J Butler

    “At the end of the day, this is Donald Trump, and we don’t want to work with him,” -Democratic representative Ruben Gallego.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/30/democrats-trump-no-compromise-237791

  • Cuberly

    OT: Does this count as some sort of 100 day accomplishment?

    “Congress reaches deal to keep government open through September”

    http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Congress-reaches-deal-to-keep-government-open-11110702.php

    • Newp. Seems a few of the Congressweasels actually want to stave off confrontations for a while.

      • Cuberly

        Attempting to look like they can govern.

        • Bryan

          Governing by inertia.

          • Cuberly

            Best description I think I’ve heard, bravo!

    • MikeBx2
      • BobSF_94117

        He’ll cut the subsidies for insurance companies and send Obamacare into crisis.

        Payback.

        • SoCalGal20

          Not this time.

          The subsidies will stay in place as Republicans continue their long-stalled effort to repeal Obamacare, something Trump and his aides hope to revive as early as this week.

          • BobSF_94117

            I don’t think that means what you think it does. Congress is fine with the subsidies — they don’t want to send the insurance industry into a tizzy. But, IIRC, Trump has executive authority over the release of the subsidies. He can act by himself. (I hope I’m wrong.)

          • SoCalGal20

            The CNN article says the subsidies will stay in place. I guess we’ll see what happens with that lawsuit.

          • BobSF_94117

            I suspect that it’s the case that the subsidies are in danger in more than one way. The Congress can’t stop Trump from what he can do. Maybe they mean the WH made a promise (I’m sure that’s rock solid…)

    • M Jackson

      It’s the American Way, that failing businesses go under.

  • Ninja0980

    https://twitter.com/JordanChariton/status/858854409249452033
    Berniebots like this can go fuck themselves.

    • Blake J Butler

      If we looked into his past, we would have known that he has trouble getting along and working alongside democrats.

      Liberals were more upset by paid speeches all of a sudden, while they turned a blind eye to Bernie’s approval of Trump’s “plan” for North Korea.

    • SoCalGal20

      This is one of the Young Turks bros. They’re the left version of Cernovich & Co and pretty much as misogynistic and vile. Also Young Turks is backed by Republican money these days. Bunch of hacks.

      • Ninja0980

        Yup, they are indeed hacks.
        Too bad so many of the young people can’t see.

  • Lazycrockett

    FYI Starz American Gods is gonna be strange.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      I’ve read the book. I like the book but I was wondering how it could be adapted.

      • Lazycrockett

        I know absolutely nothing bout the book or this series. Its good, its weird and will give me something to watch on Sunday nights. I am intrigued.

      • SoCalGal20

        The reviews have been excellent. I’m looking forward to it.

        • Skeptical_Inquirer

          I liked Pushing Daisies and Hannibal so the producer being Bryan Fuller is a good sign.

  • sword

    The President of the Philippines, the President of Turkey, the Premier of China,
    when will the Premier of Russia come to the White House to better instruct the Glorious Leader in how to start a dictatorship?

    • jefe5084

      Is idi Amin still alive? There’s a mentor for him. /s

      He’s probably insane from VD, if he’s still around.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        I’ve heard other commenters wonder if Donald already has untreated syphilis.

  • Blake J Butler

    Why do i find men more easier to listen to if they have their legs spread open in front of me.

    Hot-Pence reminds me of a professor at school that looks like Tom Cotton, both the look a likes are better people all around than their real life counterparts are.

    https://www.facebook.com/MikeHotPence/videos/1000271970106962/

    • Natty Enquirer

      Where do I join the line of succession?

  • That_Looks_Delicious

    OT – Congress has apparently reached a budget deal to get through to September. Zero $$ for Trump’s wall.

    • SoCalGal20

      Also, Planned Parenthood stays funded.

      • houstonray

        And no defunding of Sanctuary cities. EPIC FAIL for hair furor. Bwahahaha!

      • Cuberly

        The GOP having had their agenda fracked opts to erect a false front, that they can govern.

        Appearances and all.

    • Treant

      Perhaps he can sell cookies to fund the wall. Or pay for it himself if he’s as rich as he claims he is.

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        He could call it Mar-A-Lago II or Trump Tower Horizontal and spray-paint it gold.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      Also NIH got an increase. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/congressional-negotiators-reach-bipartisan-government-spending-deal/

      “Instead, the legislation includes spending boosts to domestic programs.
      If approved by Congress, the National Institutes of Health (NIH), for
      example, would receive a $2 billion funding increase despite the
      president’s request to cut it.”

  • fkevin

    Reince Priebus
    ReiNCe PRieBuS
    R NC PR B S
    RNC PR BS

  • SoCalGal20

    Haha Trump isn’t going to like this.

    https://twitter.com/alt_uscis/status/858886724826443776

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      Maybe someone should start a trend demanding they get Fox Mulder & Dana Scully on this ASAP. Or maybe someone should say Sessions is obviously an alien because his ears are so out of proportion with his head and should be fired before he can beam alien mind control rays.

  • SoCalGal20
    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      I don’t get why he doesn’t get this: “Don’t print LIES! Especially easily proved to be false LIES.”

  • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

    Would the WH sue NBC for publishing side by side the Trudeau version and the Trump version of their phone call?

    https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/857029846949662720

    • JWC

      Trump does that with all of they what on side has a one page Trump has a one sentence

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        Well, to be fair, Fox News hasn’t told him what to tweet about it yet.

    • BobSF_94117

      When did this “readout” thing become, well, a thing?

      • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

        No idea. Twitter has made “press releases” less harmonized between two parties dealing with each other.

  • SoCalGal20

    Buzzfeed has compiled a list (not comprehensive) of Trump lies in his first 100 days.

    https://twitter.com/buzzfeednews/status/858885693908504576

  • That_Looks_Delicious

    PalmerReport’s take on the Priebus & Butthead Show today is that it’s a sure sign that a big shoe is about to drop in the Trump-Russia investigation. He says every time something is about to drop in the Trump-Russia story they go on a TV blitz and talk nonsense to keep the revelation from becoming the main headline. I hadn’t noticed the coincidence in timing, but it seems about right.

    And it is probably THIS:
    http://bipartisanreport.com/2017/04/30/confirmed-sources-say-grand-juries-have-convened-regarding-trump-russia-scandal-details/

  • That_Looks_Delicious

    It looks like it may be Christmas in May, everybody. Skweeee!

    https://twitter.com/TrueFactsStated/status/858163068731371520

  • SoCalGal20

    I fucking can’t. This is an actual thing.

    https://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/858767212181688323

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      Okay, I’ll give it a try.

      His spray tan will not clash with an orange jumpsuit.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        How about “He’s taking the whole nation on a time travel trip to the 1850s but unfortunately doesn’t know how to get us back to the 21st century.”

      • Bryan

        He enjoys earth soda like you or me, and I have it on good authority he probably enjoys our earth oxygen too? He seems to have some love for our cats, looking into possible connection between ancient astronauts and Egyptian cat worship

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      Begging a tyrant not to destroy you almost NEVER works.

      Dear God, I don’t know what the fuck they are doing with this since most of the people who are liable to read NYT don’t want to hear Trump being rimmed and Trumpeteers lean towards Faux News and Breitbart anyway.

      It’s one thing to admit to having a bubble but kowtowing to the Orange Peesicle is the opposite of helping.

    • Lazycrockett

      Seems to be that media has or been told that impeachment ISNT gonna happen so they are trying new BS to interest the clickers.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        I don’t see how becoming the National Enquirer is going to win more people over.

        • Silver Badger

          The National Enquirer is a major propaganda organ for the pissant.

    • His election has stopped Democrats from killing each other — at least temporarily until they get can rid of Trump. That is always a good thing!

    • I

      Just

      Can’t

  • According to Huff and CNN, Trump has backed off on not funding the Obamacare cost-sharing subsidies as part of the deal to keep the government open through the end of September. Schumer and Pelosi said that this was the bottom line — not one Democratic vote unless the CFP (cost sharing payments for low income subsidies) goes ahead. This is a complete and total capitulation to the Congressional Democrats — no wall, Obamacare continues— nada for the far-right agenda. Pelosi has also nixed a one-week extension and said that no Democrat is going to vote for that either today. Gee, moderate Congressional Republicans really are scared of a bloodbath in November 2018 aren’t they?
    🙂

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/50d2531400982d106609bf42ec8b82c9675a6e8840815675372a2df7fa3b8d08.jpg

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      That’s how it sounds. The Dems did agree to some increase in defense spending, but so far I’m not seeing any other concessions on their part in the news. It almost sounds like Pelosi wrote the bill.

      I think something big is about to go down and the GOP are abandoning Trump.

      • Well, some increase in defense might be good — I am a former Navy boy. If the money is going to go to preparedness and, more importantly, vets benefits and not going to be crapped away on stupid weapons program we don’t need and waste. But not 50 billion worth as Trump requested.

        • The_Wretched

          “missile restocking fees”

    • Reading the tea leaves: GOP/Dems both, “Look we’re going to be dealing with an impeachment very soon now. Let’s push the budget arguments into autumn when it’ll be over. Meantime, there’s no point in giving Trump anything he can fuck with for now.”

      • AJ Drew

        Nah… look at the line of POTUS succession. Pence, Ryan, Hatch, Tillerson. ACK! No wonder the DEM power-players are being coy.

      • The_Wretched

        I’m somewhat fearful that the national level dems still think they can point to donny, go “we’re not him” and win on that alone. And that they might want to keep him there for more examples of the rancid orange’s idiocy.

  • Lazycrockett
  • SDG

    I grew up, as a Jewish kid, in “America” hearing, “it could never happen here”. I live in Israel, so the ONE thing I don’t fear, is another Holocaust happening to me.

    What I DO see, in the US, as how the things that most “Americans” view as sacrosanct, these ideas of freedom, are sometimes just “ideas”, and not necessarily “rights”, and that they can vanish in an instant. What is so upsetting is how so many “Americans” are willing to let those rights just vanish.

    The dream of cheap gas and low taxes cannot be the ONLY wants and desires of millions of people, can it?

    • MBear

      Yup. And sticking it to anyone they can look down on

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  • AJ Drew

    Thank you BBC.

    What has President Trump said about your country in his first 100 days?

    Hmm. Stalwart allies “sad” yet dictatorships…

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39732845

  • BudClark

    Rancid Prepuce, like most Republicans, including the Orange Pumpkin Monster, haven’t a CLUE what the First Amendment means. Both he and his master are speaking from their nether orifices.

  • SnowFlake

    The Gold start family was right – he has never read the constitution.

  • Tomcat

    Wouldn’t these changes to libel laws also allow those smeared by trump to sue him??????

  • Robert Adams

    “Libel: a published false statement that is damaging to a person’s reputation; a written defamation.”

    Well, good! Then Obama can sue Trump for libeling him throughout the campaign. Then Liz Warren can sue him for defamation.

    I never cease to be amazed how stupid the people in the current administration are.

  • Marti386

    Try it, Reince. Seriously. Keep pushing that envelope. You guys are just a straw away from breaking the camel’s back, and it won’t take much more to result in all of you being dragged out of bed by your genitals in the middle of the night

  • He attacks the Constitutionally-protected free press.
    He whines about “archaic” system of checks & balances.
    He puts generals in charge of a bunch of stuff.
    He gets chummy with fascists and dictators.

    How deluded must Republican voters be to not realize they’ve put Benito Fuckin’ Mussolini in the Oval Office?

  • goofy_joe

    It’s one thing for Trump to tweet these things. I think most Americans now see the man-child we all saw years ago, but to have his advisors lock-step with his crazy is maddening.

  • Nowhereman

    Will we be able to sue The Donald every time he lies?

  • Xuuths

    I guess Rinse Pubis doesn’t know that libel laws are state laws.

    • JWC

      Rancid Pubis knows Fuck all

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