FRANCE: Cop Killed In Last Night’s Paris Terror Attack Was Member Of French LGBT Police Officers Group

The Independent reports:

The police officer killed by a gunman in Paris has been identified as a man who responded to ISIS’ previous attacks on the French capital in November 2015. Xavier Jugelé, 37, was one of hundreds of officers deployed to the Bataclan as militants massacred 90 people with guns and suicide vests. He returned to the concert hall for a commemorative event almost a year later, telling journalists he was happy to be part of the “symbolic” reopening.

Flag, a group representing French LGBT police officers and gendarmes, posted a photo of the officer on social media with the caption: “We will never forget Xavier. RIP.” Colleagues said he was a member of the 32nd company of the Paris police department’s public order and traffic division. They remembered him as a “committed” officer who was “helpful” and “led a good life”, leaving behind a partner. Friends told Marianne Magazine he had been in the service for six years and also made two trips to help refugees in Greece.


UPDATE: More from the New York Times:

He was a proud defender of gay rights, joining protests against Russia’s ban on “homosexual propaganda” before the 2014 Olympics. He once went to Greece to help police officers deal with migrants who had crossed the Aegean Sea and were seeking shelter in the European Union. He was among the officers who responded to a terrorist attack at the Bataclan in November 2015, and was in the crowd when Sting helped reopen the concert hall a year later.

Xavier Jugelé, 37, a Paris police officer since 2010, himself fell victim to terrorism on Thursday evening. He was in a police vehicle on the heavily guarded Champs-Élysées, Paris’s most famous boulevard, when a gunman opened fire, killing him and wounding two other officers, along with a bystander.

“He was a simple man who loved his job, and he was really committed to the L.G.B.T. cause,” said Mikaël Bucheron, president of Flag, a French association for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender police officers. “He joined the association a few years ago, and he protested with us when there was the homosexual propaganda ban at the Sochi Olympic Games,” Mr. Bucheron said.

  • Rex

    Sincerest sympathies to his partner and family.
    Heroes walk among us and are often gone too soon.

  • Superman

    My God, this man was a genuine, gay hero. What a terrible tragedy for him and his partner.

    • MaryJOGrady

      A hero with a great big heart, from the sound of it. May he rest in peace. His poor partner– I hope everyone they love rallies round, permanently, in the face of this unspeakable loss.

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    • b

      Heartbreaking. These are the villains of society?

      • KarenAtFOH

        Abominations!

        • KarenAtFOH

          /s, of course.

    • Superman

      I have walked down this stretch of the Champs Elysees many times. There used to be a gay bar and dance club called Queen right about where this happened and it attracted a very international assortment of mostly young dance club patrons in the eighties. You paid to enter just inside the Champs door then went down a long, long stairway to a basement level club, very chic and very loud. I remember how they began to serve their cocktails in clear plastic cups with snap on lids and straws to keep people safe from unwelcome drugs being dropped in drinks. It was a welcome upgrade in my opinion after certain, unfortunate episodes in Amsterdam and Chicago that I will not relate further here. But even thirty years ago the French police were gorgeous, and gay friendly. I remember one helping me find a ridiculously hard to find gay restaurant in the Marais up a curvy cobblestone street when I was hopelessly lost, at a time when I was still kind of afraid of police because of those early eighties experiences with hostile police in San Francisco. Xavier was at Bataclan. Reposer en paix. I hope his lover tells us his story.

    • FAEN

      ^This^.

  • Mr. M

    What is happening to the world?

    • Spongebob CrankyPants

      What’s happening is what has always happened and will continue to happen. This is life on planet Earth. None of this is new.

      • Mr. M

        Really? When I was growing up there weren’t terrorist attacks/shootings every day/every other day?

        • Tawreos

          They have pretty much always happened. In the past you couldn’t get instant live coverage with video, and now we can.

          • Mr. M

            Again, really? I don’t remember people driving trucks plowing into crowds. That seems to happen quite frequently now. I don’t buy “the world has always been this violent!” talking point. I believe we are heading to WWIII.

          • Tawreos

            They have happened but previously it was relegated to page ten of the news paper crowded next to a car ad or something. Maybe the methods have changed, but not the feelings behind them.

          • Ostrich?

            When did you grow up? Did you never hear about the IRA in Northern Ireland? About ETA in Spain? About the Red Brigades in Italy? About the Dirty War in Argentina? About the KKK? About the Symbionese Liberation Army? About Pinochet’s Death Squads in Chile? About the Crack Wars in Harlem? About Narcotrafficantes in Mexico, TODAY?

            Violence exists, has always existed, and will always exist– be it small-scale terrorism, organized crime, or repressive government regimes. It’s all of a piece, all on a spectrum.

          • Menergy

            Baader-Meinhof (Red Army Faction terrorists in Germany, active from 1970-1998

          • Mr. M

            Government oppression is one thing, I understand that has always been around. I’m talking about random acts of violence that come out of nowhere.

          • Gustav2

            There have always been random acts of violence by political and religious causes. Your time on earth is not that special.

          • Basta

            The IRA was setting off bombs in the UK during the 70s and 80s. ETA was assassinating Guardia Civil officers throughout the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s. Red Brigade was setting off car bombs, kidnapping children of the wealthy, and assassinating political figures in the 70s and 80s. These were most definitely not repressive governments, but rather REACTIONS to what were perceived (sometimes rightly) as repressive governments. And I can assure you that for the victims and their families, the acts of violence were random and came out of nowhere.

            So, maybe the means have changed–driving a truck into a crowd of people. Maybe that seems a bit more low-tech, a bit more ‘pedestrian’, pardon the pun. But an IED in Boston in 2013, or a car bomb in Madrid in 1983, or getting caught in the crossfire of a mob shootout in Chicago in 1933 all have about the same random quotient, no?

            Enough hysteria, already.

          • HanyBaal

            I remember CIA sponsored car bombs in the 80’s in Beirut. But I suppose Islam is still to blame.

        • Todd20036

          And a traitorous mental patient wasn’t the president. Even Reagan wasn’t this bad… and yes that includes his second term when he had Alzheimers.

          • MaryJOGrady

            I’m not sure Reagan was not as bad. Central America and Mexico and the US are still paying the price for his proxy wars, in the form of bloodletting by the sons and grandsons of the thugs he trained and let loose. (I remember his idiotic remark that the dirty commies in Nicaragua were only a day’s drive from Harlingen, Texas. Harlingen was ready! All the armchair generals in Harlingen were armed to the teeth and loaded for bear.)

        • Same As It Ever Was

          There were. But you didn’t hear about it. And when there weren’t terrorist attacks, there were crimes by repressive governments.

          Now, thanks to technology, you hear about an attack as soon as it’s happened.

          • Gustav2

            Did they miss the entire Irish/British conflict?

        • MaryJOGrady

          When I was growing up, the US had merely destabilized a couple of spots in Southeast Asia, and Africa, not the entire Middle East. I think that explains part of it.

          • Do Something Nice

            And supported abusive dictators too.

          • MaryJOGrady

            Indeed.

        • Gustav2

          I don’t know when you were “growing up” but this has always been with you. See: The Troubles

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles

          • Mr. M

            My ancestors are from Ireland – I know of what happened there. I am talking about random acts of violence that seem to be occurring more frequently.

          • Gustav2

            No, cable news and the internet just inform you more often and incessantly.

          • TuuxKabin

            When did you start paying attention?

        • Barry William Teske

          Is not one violent act, even if just once in a while, horrendous?
          Has humanity become that detached from its family tree and the roots of?
          I used to dwell on the ‘one’ event of every now and again.
          Trying to find sense or reason or rhyme in it.
          Now I find trying to understand even one act of violence cannot happen because another such event is already underway or developing, and another and another….

        • kiprian

          In addition to the violence noted below, when I was growing up there were frequent airplane hijacking. Or at least it seemed frequent at the time.

        • KarenAtFOH

          When I was growing up, the GOP considered Russians the enemy. Also, Fox Propaganda News did not exist.

          • Comrade

            Pravda is Russian for Fox. True story.

          • Ben in Oakland

            The quick brown Pravda jumped over the lazy trump.

        • Dazzer

          Depends were you grew up.

          All the way through my teens in the UK, there were constant threats of bombings from the IRA. In fact, I’ve been ‘blown up’ (I was very close to places/in front of buildings) when the explosives went off.

          I have scars from being caught in flying glass to this day.

          If you’ve never experienced it, then I’m truly glad for you. But I promise you, these kinds of attacks have always been a part of human existence.

        • -M-

          That you paid attention to.

      • Colonel Panic.

        I agree. I think that 24hr news stations and social media make us more aware of what’s happening – whether that’s a good thing I leave for wiser heads to decide

        • Gustav2

          Sometimes we just have to turn the shit off and…

          DANCE!

      • Edmund Allin

        I grew up in Europe in the 1970s. I agree that what’s happening is very bad. But the Red Brigade – incidentally, atheists – caused as much of stir, even killing an Italian PM; the Baader-Meinhof gang (also atheists) in Germany. The IRA (definitely Catholics) was blowing people up left, right and centre (from Wikipedia: In 1972, the Provisional IRA … carried out approximately 1,300 bombings) and the protestants were responding in kind, though not to the same degree . The PLO was running all around the place, and Leila Khaled was more iconic than Che. Etc etc.

  • Ninja0980

    My sympathies go out to his partner and his family.

  • Mixed Up

    Will Trump bomb Paris for this atrocity?

    • Stogiebear

      Probably.

    • Beagle

      And if so, will it bomb Paris, France, or Paris, Texas?

      • Mark

        but wait! I’m only about 45 miles from Paris, Tx……and I need a little time to get me and the boyz in the truck and outta here before the bombay doors open up……

    • KarenAtFOH

      Not if LePen has a good showing.

    • JW Swift

      Depends upon what Putin tells him to do.

  • ChrisMorley

    Gunman served 15 years for attempted police murders

    The attacker, a 39-year-old man widely named as Karim Cheurfi, was known
    to French security services. Media reported he had served nearly 15 years in prison after being convicted of three attempted murders, two against police officers, and was released on parole in 2015.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/21/paris-shooting-police-search-property-as-isis-claims-responsibility

    • billbear1961

      15 years in prison and out on PAROLE after attempting THREE murders?

      People who commit or attempt crimes like this should be locked up till they’re 90, or dead.

      • BobSF_94117

        Most European countries have much lower incarceration times for even violent crimes. It certainly seems odd to us. On the other hand, all in all, their crime rates are a lot lower than ours.

        • Hue-Man

          Plus a lot of these terrorists were radicalized while they were in prison!

  • Jeffrey

    The timing of this incident right before tomorrow’s voting is a little too suspicious to me. It would not be above Putin to be behind some of this in order to place his girl Marie LePen just as he did Trump. We are headed to Paris in six weeks and hope they have made the right choice.

    • Jeffrey
      • billbear1961

        Yes, crickets about the white Trump-lover in Quebec who murdered Muslims in Quebec City at their mosque.

        • Marty Hodas

          He was acting alone. He’s no longer a threat.

      • BobSF_94117

        Fucking bastard. He’s trying to destroy democracy in Europe.

    • Blake Jordan

      Especially with an irrationally high number of gay frenchies already leaning towards voting away their own rights…

    • Dazzer

      As a general rule, atrocities in France haven’t played to any particular politician’s favour.

      The truth is that no politician is seen as an answer to terrorism.

      Terrorist attacks in European cities have been going on for a long time – and absolutely no government of any political conviction has been able to stop it.

      It’s not really a left/right issue.

      BTW, have a really great time in Paris. So long as you manage to say ‘bonjour’ and ‘merci’, the Parisians are going to smother you with generous hospitality. (And, as anyone who’s been to Paris knows, ‘pleasant’, ‘happy’, ‘exuberant’ and ‘welcoming’ are not words usually used in conjunction with Parisians.)

      • Jeffrey

        I am in Paris once a year for the past 20. They love American bears there. As a young cub going there 20 years ago I certainly made a lot of friends. Probably because I always say merci and bon jour 😉

  • Jeffrey

    Wow, everything you read about him he was a truly remarkable man. The kind we need more of. What a loss for his community and his family.

    • TuuxKabin

      The world as well.

  • TheThruster

    This really got me. So sad 🙁

  • Bj Lincoln

    The good die young. My heart goes out to his partner and family. He was an asset to his country and the LGBT population.

  • Ninja0980

    One thing I want to say right now.
    For the bigots that want to issue fake sympathy or rant about Islam, save it.
    If you had your way, this officer would be denied marriage equality, housing, employment etc.
    His partner would be left in the dust with no way to support himself and would lose everything he and his loved one had built over the years to others, solely because they are gay.
    And yet, you think we should keep quiet about all of that and other injustices you would do to us because you say you won’t murder us, a bar so low my two year old nephew could jump over it.
    Nope, as far as I’m concerned, you, ISIS and the rest can all jump off a cliff together, along with your fake sympathy.

    • Mr. M

      Can Islam ever be to blame?

      • joe ho

        Xtians would be doing the same thing if they could. In fact, African Xtians do do this kind of crap.

        In the West a strong secular culture keeps Xtians from acting out their worst religious impulses. But they would still be hanging witches and burning faggots if they could.

        Xtianity and Islam spring from the same poisoned Abrahamic well.

        • Mr. M

          Always bring it back to Christianity. I am asking if ISLAM is ever to blame?

          • Gigi

            He answered your question. It’s not the religions that are to blame, it’s the fundamentalist followers who use their “sacred texts” to justify their hate and bigotry.

          • Barry William Teske

            Depends on what one chooses to believe.
            About others.
            More importantly, about self.
            This I know.
            Not believe.
            Know.

          • Jeffrey

            Organized religion is certainly one of the worlds great problems. Not the religion so much as how man uses them.

          • joe ho

            The texts themselves are pretty vile–misogynistic, genocidal, homophobic, etc. So you can’t excuse the religion.

          • Jeffrey

            Yes, but written thousands of years ago. It’s man who chooses to exploit it and not allow for evolution of thought. Religion is a philosophy but man enacts it as ideology and shitty dogma.

          • joe ho

            But the premise of the religions is that the texts are the inspired word of God, whose objective truth is eternal and unchanging; and in the case of Islam, the texts are the direct word of God.

            The god of Abraham then is the same god of Abraham now. And that god is a totalitarian, genocidal, narcissistic, homophobic, genocidal monster. No way to get around it though Christian apologists unsuccessfully try to.

          • The_Wretched

            I agree religion is a tool and how it’s used is the primary problem. I also take issue with relgions in that they teach irrationality, invariably try to control people via sexuality and some get leveraged to give leaders too much weight (“god” has a habit of having the same beliefs as the minister).

          • joe ho

            And the answer is YES. Xtianity and Islam are to blame. They’re evil distortions of the human spirit.

          • FAEN

            Islam in general or a specific sect? Secular Islam or fundamental Islam? It’s a very broad question. Is Christianity and all Christians to blame for blowing up gay bars and abortion clinics?

          • grada3784

            What applies to one can be as easily applied to the other. The skirts of both are soiled.

          • BobSF_94117

            Did you blame Catholicism for the Troubles in Ireland?

          • Mr. M

            Do you blame Islam for lack of female rights in Saudi Arabia?

          • BobSF_94117

            I blame Wahhabism and the Saudi Royal family (and its enablers, including us).

          • zhera

            I blame PEOPLE for how THEY treat others. Religion is an excuse. The real reasons for misogyny, patriachism, homophobia, racism, etc. etc. is fear and greed.

          • That_Looks_Delicious

            What a bizarre way to phrase that question. The catholics were in Ireland centuries, nearly a millenia, before the first protestants arrived, and have always been the majority in Ireland, though long oppressed by the English.

          • BobSF_94117

            OK, I’ll rephrase. Did you blame the Protestants for the Troubles in Ireland?

          • Marty Hodas

            They are not going to say it Mr. M. Don’t know why they don’t. Maybe a few more hundreds or thousands of gays must die first. Or maybe they are waiting until they kill us all, or push us all back into the closet. I have been around a helluva lot longer than most on this blog, and I am sure about is this: if we don’t fight back, we die.

          • Mr. M

            I mean, yes. Of course Christians can be bigots. They can be violent. But to pretend that in 2017 the violence coming from these religions is equal is willful ignorance. Radical Christians want us to shut up and stay in the closet (which of course we’ll never grant them). Radical Muslims want us dead.

          • zhera

            Uganda.

          • Mr. M

            Gee, where can you be put to death for being gay? SO many Christian nations on the list…..
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory

          • zhera

            You’ve been around here long, you say?

            Never saw you before now, and your comment count is 33. Your trolling is pathetique.

            Islam is not to be blamed. Christianity is not to be blamed. Atheism is not to be blamed. FUNDAMENTALISM IS TO BE BLAMED. And you Marty, along with Mr. M, are on your way to fundametalism (if you’re not already there) with your ‘MUST KILL ALL MUSLIMS BEFORE THEY KILL US’ rethoric.

            It’s lazy, it’s boring, and it’s insulting the intelligence of anyone with more than two brain cells knocked together.

          • Marty Hodas

            Nah, I’m not a fundamentalist of any sort. I just don’t like it when my brothers and sisters are killed, and I want to eradicate whatever is killing them. I think that’s normal. Refusing to fight back, refusing even to name your enemy, now that’s sick.

          • Marty Hodas

            I meant that I am older than most.

      • KarenAtFOH

        Fundamentalist Islam thought is reprehensible, but so is fundamentalist Christianity. If you’re going to wade into the quagmire of outlawing religious tenets, you better be prepared to apply it equally to Christians. That is why it is better to focus on behaviors instead of beliefs.

        • Barry William Teske

          Thank you.

      • Gigi

        Were all Roman Catholics to blame when priests were molesting children, and their crimes were then covered up? Were all Christians to blame when radical fundamentalists gunned down abortion doctors? Were all LGBT people to blame for Jeffrey Dahmer’s crimes?
        Radical islamists, who are a very small percentage of the 1.2 billion Muslims in the world, are to blame for the crimes that they commit, not Islam.

        • Barry William Teske

          Thank you. Most fear such reality. Pack mentality is a two way street.

        • The_Wretched

          ^this

        • zhera

          And don’t forget: Most of the people killed by radical Islamist are muslims. In muslim countries. It’s not a war between religions, it’s a war between sanity and insanity.

          • Gigi

            Good point. One that’s mostly overlooked by the Muslim haters.

      • Jeffrey

        Can Christianity be blamed because every KKK member is Christian?

      • Gustav2

        I don’t thank all Muslims because my Muslim next door neighbor brought back my trash bin from the curb this morning.

        Why would the opposite be the thing to do?

      • grada3784

        As much as Christianity is to blame for BTK.

        • Mr. M

          Okay. So whenever a Christian does anything bad I will not hesitate to bring Islam up as well.

          • grada3784

            I’m sure you would have any way, no matter how illogical.

          • Mr. M

            And yet it’s logical, when a radical Muslim shoots up a bar or plows a truck into a crowd or blows himself up, to connect it to Christianity.

          • grada3784

            I was just carrying your initial comment to its absurdity.

            Just as much to have a knee-jerk reaction to connect Islam to a Muslim shooter with a pre-ISIS history of shooting cops.

            Sometimes criminals are just criminals.

          • Mr. M

            I never said all of Islam is to blame. I’m saying liberals (which I used to be) can never say anything bad about Islamic terrorism without also bringing up Christianity. THAT is absurd. There is a reason most gays in France are voting for Le Pen. They see what’s going on and are frightened.

          • grada3784

            And I didn’t say all of Christianity was to blame for BTK.

            You said Islam and I said Christianity. Neither said all, but you immediately jumped to that conclusion. You’re just as guilty of what you accuse me of.

          • Câl

            As an European liberal, I call bullshit on your statement.
            We are usually happy to call out terrorism when it happens, however, the term we use tends to be “Islamist” rather than “Islamic” and only bring Christianity into the conversation when someone implies that all Muslims are to blame. To answer your original question of “Can Islam ever be to blame?” my answer has to be a resounding “No”. The absolutely overwhelming majority of the world’s Muslims just want to get on with their lives and hate terrorism of any kind as much as any other section of society. That a very few people have justified their political views by twisting Islam is as terrible to most Muslims as it is to many Christians when people kill doctors in the name of Jesus.

            “Most” of the LGBT community are not voting for Le Pen. A few of the same, politically ignorant or an even smaller number of deliberately provocative types as voted for Trump in the US (think Milo) may vote for her, but not anything like a majority. They are spread out politically, for sure, but if it comes down to her versus anyone else they will mainly vote to stop her, even the right wing.

          • Mr. M

            “Can Islam ever be to blame?” my answer has to be a resounding “No”. – wow. Just….wow…

          • greenmanTN

            The fact of the matter is that the odds of me being a victim of Islamic terrorism is probably about the same as winning the lottery. Yet on a daily basis I hear and read about Christian fundamentalists who are actively trying to strip me of my rights, deny service, even basic needs like housing.

            I am atheist and while I recognize their existence, I’m not cheerleading for ANY religion. They can ALL fuck off so far as I’m concerned, but to my mind FUNDAMENTALISM is the real problem, no matter which brand of religion it is. Fundamentalism is when you stop thinking for yourself and slavishly follow an old book and throw reason and all of humanity’s values right out the window, while applauding yourself for how righteous you are.

          • Mr. M

            Really? On a daily gays are being rounded up and killed by radical Muslims. Christians can try and “strip my rights” all they want, they’ll fail. And they are not trying to cut my head off. Go over to a Muslim neighborhood in Sweden and hold your boyfriends hand.

          • greenmanTN

            In the US? Not to my knowledge though I have read many stories about gay men and lesbians being beaten, sometimes to death, by men usually (we are the more likely perpetrators of violence in the world), who who had been steeped in hate from their parents, often fueled by religion.

            Tony Perkins, Mike Huckabee, Ted Cruz, Brian Brown, Mike Pence and many others, … any of these names ring a bell? I’m pretty sure none of them pray toward Mecca, but they are a far more a present threat to me than then some tool in the Middle East. I’ll worry about the Islamic Radicals when they start being an actual realistic threat to me. Until then I’m kinda busy with the Christian assholes, who might be as close to me as next door.

            Priorities, dude, priorities.

          • Mr. M

            They throw us of buildings in Syria. They hang us in Iran. They purge us in Chechnya. All in the name of Islam. But you’re right. Tony Perkins. Priorities dude…

          • greenmanTN

            You keep bitching about that crap while it’s much more likely a Christian fundamentalist will put a bullet through your (or my) head, so who are you trying to convince, me or yourself?

            You can invent all the boogeymen you like, but it doesn’t change the fact that gay people are far more likely to die at the hand of of a Christian fundamentalist than someone yelling “Allah Akbar!”

            I don’t know what your motivation really is here, but if it’s to distract from the really nasty shit that Christians pull every single goddamn day it isn’t working.

            I don’t live in fear because that is how people manipulate and control you, convince you to give up your rights for an illusion of safet out of fear of some mysterious “other.”If you want to pull up your petticoats and squeal like some some stereotypical girl spying a mouse that’s up to you. For myself and the gay men and lesbians I know, we have more balls or ovaries to fall for that bullshit so you should just fuck off.

            We are stronger than that. It takes heat and pressure to make a diamond and it takes more than your crappy threats to make us quiver in our boots. So toodle-oo ad don’t the door hit your ass on the way out.

          • Mr. M

            Yep. Keep railing against Christians while Muslims actually kill us around the world by government enforcement. You say I’m creating “boogeyman” when YOU are the one telling me to be more afraid of Tony Perkins than radical islamists. Have some fucking common sense when contrasting which religions do more harm to the LGBT community.

          • greenmanTN

            Keep telling yourself how scary those Muslims are while the Christians put a rope around your neck.

          • Mr. M

            Keep telling yourself how scary those Christians are while the Muslims toss you off a building or hang you in the town square.

    • TheThruster

      There’s such wisdom in your anger. What the hell can you do at this point, to stop this madness? Will it ever stop? It’s hard to keep up hope for me today. Think I’ll log off for what’s left of it.

      • Gigi

        Take a step back and recharge. I have had to do that quite a lot this past year. I hope you feel better tomorrow.

        • TheThruster

          Thank you. I’ve got a date with Netflix and a splif, so I’m gonna be fine 😉

      • Barry William Teske

        Change begins within.
        To undertand such creates ripples that ebb and flow ‘with’ all others.
        To lose trust in such a dynamic, the self instead creates ripples that ebb and flow ‘over’ all others.
        Ever notice how most violence and anger are usually directed outward at perceived others?
        Ever notice how consideration, and acknowledgement of an ‘other’ creates an openness to dialogue and understanding?

        Just my take on not walking away from what is, in all honesty, a ‘needing’.

      • grada3784

        100 years ago, many of the combatants in World War 1 were engaged in ethnic cleansing on one kind or another. It climaxed in World War 2. We seem to be replaying the last century.

        All the peoples marked for destruction 100 years ago survive in their descendants. It may be slow in the stopping, but we will survive.

        • TheThruster

          I hate that I feel it coming nearer every day. I’m so not up for it, as it were 🙁

    • KarenAtFOH

      And take Le Pen with you.

    • FAEN

      You nailed it. Thank you for articulating what was in my head. Wish I could upvote you more than once.

    • Acronym Jim

      Exactly. This man fought the good fight against terrorism, but as his work with refugees in Greece shows, he didn’t let that fight tarnish his humanity.

  • TuuxKabin
  • Mike Solo

    My partner met him breifly at the Gay Police Association international conference in Amsterdam last year where they had a conference and then got onto a big barge for the pride parade the same weekend. He remembers them discussing the attacks in Paris and how that changed how they operate, but how they refused to let it change their outlook on life or how they enjoyed the city and in choosing to live life and not cower in fear. I think we should honour his memory in refusing to cower and retreat into darkenss in the face of a threat that wants to wipe us out.

    • Gigi

      I have many friends who live in Paris. They just go about their day knowing that an attack could happen at any given moment. Some have left, but most have stayed. They refuse to let these attacks take their city from them.

      • FAEN

        That’s how a good part of the world lives. From Paris to Bombay to Jerusalem.

    • greenmanTN

      Fear really is the issue. The GOP has figured out that if they keep you afraid they don’t have to take your rights from you, you’ll hand them over gladly.

      “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” Benjamin Franklin

  • BeaverTales

    When I went to bed last night, he was reportedly alive and no longer in critical condition. I guess there was nothing they could do.

  • Johnny Wyeknot

    And now I am crying in public. At the airport about to board a United flight. Wish me luck!

    • grada3784

      Watch out for scorpions. And Chicago security.

      • Johnny Wyeknot

        Thankfully not in Chicago!

      • William

        That’s right, United took over Continental.

    • djcoastermark

      Flying United is such a drag anymore. Best wishes on a trauma free flight.

      • Johnny Wyeknot

        Flying into Houston. Big United hub.

      • William

        Face up Sweetie!

  • billbear1961

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAP7j3B_yIY

    May thunder, lightning, and storms
    never disturb your dear peace,
    nor may you by blowing winds be profaned.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5090a0b363e39a2ad9389ccb5ee5aa55d761a037424b32cbea231546a3a68884.jpg

  • Marty Hodas

    So sad. Something’s gotta be done about islamic terrorism.

    • billbear1961

      Something must be done about ALL fanaticism–all forms of FASCISM–before it destroys democracy and enlightened civilization WORLDWIDE.

    • Texndoc

      You’re damn right. “Islamic terrorism”. It has to be stopped. Isn’t it amazing that this statement is controversial? And Macron stating the French now “have to live with it”. Once Paris was the city of lights and romance now it’s terrorist central.

      • barrixines

        In the meantime how many Americans have been shot dead today in the US? Perhaps Paris has decided to live with it the same way Americans have decided to live with it.

        • Marty Hodas

          Crime and terrorism are two different things. Criminal violence is short term, it ends with the crime. The violence of the muslim terrorist is long-term, there is no end to it. And their goal is to kill as many of us as possible. And they especially enjoy killing LGBTs. So fuck ’em, no mercy for those bastards.

          • barrixines

            That is an odd distinction as gun violence goes on and on in the US. 30,000 people dead a year. It absolutely dwarves the threat of terrorism. And there is no end in sight.

            There isn’t a single person here who is asking for mercy to be shown to terrorists.

          • Marty Hodas

            Why doesn’t anybody just say it, without qualification. Repeat after me: “we HATE you for killing us, and we DEMAND justice.” These are some of the worst homophobes in history!!! Are we ever gonna fight back???? Or are we gonna whine about other people that committed terrorism in the past? Jesus fucken christ!!! Enough with the self-loathing. When they slaughter us in large numbers we must FIGHT BACK!!!!

      • Dazzer

        Paris is “terrorist central”?

        Oh go fuck yourself.

        You are less likely to be killed by a terrorist – or anyone else – in Paris than you are in most major US cities.

        Before you start throwing out ridiculous statements about other people’s cities, I suggest you do something about your own first.

      • BobSF_94117

        You’re lying about what Macron said.

      • BobSF_94117

        Isn’t it amazing that this statement is controversial?

        Who said that’s controversial? The assertion was “Something’s gotta be done about islamic terrorism”. That’s a rather odd thing to say, given the enormous effort and money being spent on the problem.

        • Texndoc

          Oh bullshit. It has zero upvotes and always is responded to with “shut up”.

          • BobSF_94117

            Your comment has zero (well, one) upvote because it sounds like you think nothing is being done. We’re at war in three or four places, we’re spending trillions against terrorism, and most foreign policy in the world today is about stopping terrorism.

          • Marty Hodas

            Is it enough? How many of us should be killed before we admit that we need to go after these people more effectively or more frequently or perhaps using deadlier methods.

          • BobSF_94117

            I sense a nuke-em-all attitude. Anyway, personally, I think much more should be done, but mostly non-militarily. It’s a generational commitment America is unwilling to make and which the present administration would find “snow-flake-y”.

          • Marty Hodas

            I’d love to know what you have in mind.

      • Edmund Allin

        A repeat of another post:

        I grew up in Europe in the 1970s. I agree that what’s happening is very bad, and “something needs to be done”. But the Red Brigade – incidentally, atheists – caused as much of stir, even killing an Italian PM; the Baader-Meinhof gang (also atheists) in Germany. The IRA (Catholics) was blowing people up left, right and centre (from Wikipedia: In 1972, the Provisional IRA … carried out approximately 1,300 bombings) and the Protestants were responding in kind, though not to the same degree . The PLO was running all around the place, and Leila Khaled was more iconic than Che. Etc etc.

        As for “something needs to be done”, how? If it were easy, I’m sure someone would have, already.

        For someone in their 50s, DAESH or Al-Qaeda are vile creatures, but no different in quality from others we’ve seen before.

        • Marty Hodas

          Edmund, muslim terror is different in a number of ways. Most importantly, the muslim terrorists are global, and they kill at random. And they target innocent civilians more frequently (almost exclusively it seems). And above fucken all, they are vicious homophobes. Not the talking kind of homophobe, the killing kind!!! Can’t anybody see that? Do we hate ourselves that much?

          • Edmund Allin

            I see where you’re coming from, but I think murder is murder.

    • grada3784

      Only Islamic terrorism? Oklahoma City bombing type terrorism or Eric Rudolph-stytle bombings are ok by you?

      • Texndoc

        What was responsible for this officer being slain? A chap from Tulsa? Jesus Christ

        • grada3784

          You go after all terrorism, not just Islamic.

          There are lots more people shot in the US than in all these terrorist attacks each year.

          And, no, I don’t think Jesus Christ has much to do with it.

        • Ninja0980

          This guy was a danger to police before ISIS even existed and in fact had served prison time for shooting other police officers.
          Maybe that should be looked at first instead of playing into ISIS’s hands?

          • Marty Hodas

            He tried to murder cops for Allah before???? If we in the west weren’t such turn-the-other-cheek pussies, he’d have been dead long ago. And Xavier would be alive today.

          • barrixines

            He didn’t try to “murder cops for Allah” before. Police thwarted his attempt at armed robbery and he blamed them for ruining his life after he spent fifteen years in prison. We don’t have the death penalty in Europe – and if that makes us “pussies” I think we can live with it, judging by the efficacy of it on crime rates in the US.

      • Marty Hodas

        Timothy McVeigh is dead, and Eric Rudolph is away for life. Hey, that’s an idea, let’s kill or imprison these radical savages. And, dare i say it, make sure nobody from failed muslim countries comes in to the US.

        • grada3784

          I have no problem with going after all terrorists. Just a problem with going after one kind while ignoring the home grown variety. Including the school shooters and their enablers.

          • Marty Hodas

            The home growns tend to act alone. If they are part of a group, the Feds crush that group. Very effective, this crushing of domestic terrorist groups. Now, lets do the same to foreign terrorist organizations.

          • grada3784

            I repeat. I have no problem with going after all terrorists.

        • barrixines

          How many terrorist attacks on American soil would have been prevented had there been a Muslim travel ban in operation for the last twenty years?

          • Marty Hodas

            Good question. If you do a count, how many thousands would be alive today?

    • barrixines

      A lot of the people who comment here on JMG are anti religion pretty much across the board. However, as with the thread yesterday on Russia banning Jehovah’s Witnesses we tend to come down on the side of the right of people going about their lawful business in peace regardless of their religious beliefs. Indeed something has to be done about islamic terrorism – along with all forms of terrorism – but perhaps you have to offer practical suggestions beyond bombing more brownfaced people in the Middle East because it simply isn’t working. How would you tackle it?

      • Ben in Oakland

        Thank you for writing this. It’s what I believe, and I will quote you elsewhere.

  • TimCA

    Still given this horrible violence France is experiencing, we in the United States should keep in mind that statistically you are much more likely to be murdered walking the streets here at home than in France. From the latest statistics available the homicide rate differential by firearms is enormous:

    France .21 per 100,000 population vs USA 3.43 per 100,000 population

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

  • narutomania

    Of all the news (both public and personal) that I have heard this week, this is the only thing that has brought me to tears. To say that the loss of a man like this is “sad” or even “tragic” simply does not capture the depth of loss. The world needs more people like him.

  • j.martindale

    And LePen will try to use his tragic death to gain power and deprive LGBT citizens of their rights in France. Another right wing political opportunist.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      A despicable and tragic irony.

  • SDG

    Sad…

  • Rick Hammond

    My heart aches for his partner. A truly magnificent human being. This will stay with me for all time along with all the other travesties imposed upon us.

  • DisT

    I hate ISIS.

  • coram nobis
  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    Oh man, What a guy. How tragic. RIP

  • Pat

    A very good man has gone. What an utter tragedy for his family, his friends, his country, and the many people he helped. My very deepest condolences to his partner.

  • Timothy George Lehman

    RIP.

    Sam Harris has bravely pained this honest portrait of violent Jihadists and our own suicidal resistance to accepting the reality of their lethal intent. He utilized Jihadists’ own words and actions for your paint, deftly brushed with brilliant insights, creating a unique portrayal of this ugly non-secular reality that currently rules the cruel actions, and bafflingly-ineffective reactions, across our nation and planet.

    His vastly-creative intellect greatly helps to break the strong denial of conservatives, liberals and moderates, thereby creating the clearest understanding of this ruthless enemy that wages global war against our precious, hard-won, and fragile freedoms.

    Waking Up Podcast #43:
    https://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/what-do-jihadists-really-want

  • Rev. Andrew R Gentry

    Rest in Peace good soul.

  • JCF

    Memory eternal.