Ex-CIA Chief Of Staff: The Only Person Michael Flynn Could Give Up To Get Immunity Is Trump [VIDEO]

NBC News reports:

A former top government official said the White House reminds him of a “runaway train” following the latest revelations Thursday about President Donald Trump’s ex-national security adviser. Mike Flynn, who served as the president’s national security adviser for three weeks, says he is willing to be interviewed about the Trump campaign’s possible ties to Russia in return for immunity from prosecution.

“The image I have in my head of the White House is a runaway train,” Jeremy Bash, chief of staff at the CIA and then the Department of Defense under former President Barack Obama, said on MSNBC late Thursday. “The brakes are out … that is how much trouble we’re in.”

“And for the Justice Department to agree to give somebody like him immunity it means they want him to turn and testify against someone higher up in the food chain,” Bash said. “Who is higher up in the food chain, higher than the national security adviser? There’s really only one person. And so this shows that the jeopardy of criminal liability actually extends all the way to the top.”

  • PickyPecker
    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Sad! What’s the matter Donnie?

    • HanyBaal

      Fake!, Hands too big

      • KarenAtFOH

        Body too small.

        • Todd20036

          Eyes too alert.

        • Tawreos

          Face too orange

          • Jeffg166

            All of the above – sad.

    • Joe in PA

      Damn you! Now my prison fantasy is ruined!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=402fQFswGzw

      • William

        I liked the Christopher Meloni – Brian Bloom scenes even better.

        • Joe in PA

          shower scene? mmmm

      • jimbo65

        Loved that show. The beginning of my life long lust for Christopher Meloni.

      • Hank

        Never saw OZ, but always had the HOTS for BOTH of these MEN!!! Thanks for posting!!!

    • William

      Eat the food Donald.

    • Walter Maerlyn
    • kelven

      I’ve seen a couple people speculating on upcoming prison sentences use the phrase “the cherry on the top would be…” One said Gouliani, the other said Paul Ryan. Personally, for me the cherry on the top would be Mitch McConnell.

      • Walter Maerlyn

        McConnell participated in the cover-up for sure. When Trump goes down, he’ll get justice too. There will be one hell of a Spring cleaning.

      • Man_in_the_mists

        None of you are wrong.

  • OrangeJesus

    Fat Orange is about to get squeezed.

  • liondon#iamnotatraitor

    Orange is the new orange

    • Gerry Fisher

      LUV this

  • Walter Maerlyn

    Immunity (partial or full) is only ever given in exchange for testimony against higher-ups, period. Flynn has only one higher-up, period.

    Trump announcing that he should seek immunity is his way of rubbing our noses in it. It’s an ADMISSION of guilt along with a hearty, “Whatcha gonna do about it?”

  • Elsewhere1010

    How many carts are we going to put in front of the horse?

    Flynn is shopping for immunity and using the media as a bargaining chip. And I’m not sure of the wisdom of granting immunity to anyone who will not even indicate what they know before making the deal.

    • William

      The deal will be made in private, behind closed doors. Flynn will have to dish to be granted immunity.

      • Walter Maerlyn

        You’re absolutely right. Immunity is NEVER granted unless prosecutors know exactly what they will get in exchange. It’s a bargain, not a gift.

  • PickyPecker
  • Gigi

    If this is true then I say give Flynn immunity.

    O/T: Why is Brian Williams back on tv news? Aren’t there more trustworthy and less expensive reporters who could do a much better job?

    • bkmn

      Not until they are sure the information Flynn can provide will net them Trump.

    • canoebum

      Everyone makes mistakes. He paid big-time for his transgression. Still, he has talent. Wouldn’t you want a second chance if you fucked up?

      • Gigi

        He didn’t just make a mistake. He told lies and then kept repeating the lies over and over and over again. People around him, including his bosses at NBC, knew that he was lying and they did nothing. They let him continue lying for years. They did their best to deflect any guilt for allowing Williams to continue to lie by saying, “The statements in question did not, for the most part, occur on NBC News platforms or in the immediate aftermath of the news events, but rather on late-night programs and during public appearances, usually years after the news events in question.”

        After he was finally called, Williams gave the standard non-apology: “I told stories that were wrong. It was not from a place where I was trying to use my job and title to mislead…I got it wrong. I own this. And I own up to this.” Stories that were wrong…I got it wrong. Why can’t he just admit that he lied?

    • KarenAtFOH

      Still better than anyone on FOX.

  • Rex

    Trump didn’t want to be president to help the American people – it was a giant ego trip – he just wanted to be the most important person in the world. He wasn’t above doing anything to get to the top before, and he still isn’t. I’d actually be totally shocked if he wasn’t involved in criminal activity all along. I’d also wouldn’t be shocked to find out he’s so deeply indebted to Putin that he ran on Putin’s insistence to avoid blackmail. Could go either way, but either way, I hope he goes down.

    • Natty Enquirer

      And he thought he could run this country like Putin runs his. Surprise!

    • Gerry Fisher

      please oh please oh please

  • billbear1961
  • blackstar
  • bkmn
  • Mike C

    Or himself. He could end up being another Oliver North, fall the knife, get out of jail free and earn himself a place of admiration amongst the right wing. They turned the traitorous North into a hero.

    • Chucktech

      Somehow I just can’t imagine someone like Michael Flynn falling on anything to save the likes of Donald Trump.

    • MaryJOGrady

      I remember when North testified on TV. I predicted, with my dim and cynical view of the US citizenry, that as good looking as he was, if he managed not to dribble on himself he would end up a hero for a certain large and stupid constituency.

    • Acronym Jim

      North had the added benefit of being able to present himself as an attractive, maligned “hero.”

      Flynn just looks like a bleached male version of the Wicked Witch of the West.

  • crewman

    Is there a reason this could not happen:

    Flynn: Hey, give me immunity and I’ll tell you what I know.
    Justice Department: OK you have immunity.
    Flynn: Suckers! All I know is that Trump’s an outstanding man, and I’m off the hook!

  • Boreal

    I would like to get my hopes up but……………………………………………………………………

  • Blackfork

    LOCK HIM UP!! (Wouldn’t THAT be some irony.)

    • Gustav2

      When he escorted to Danbury a crowd should stand outside shouting…

    • Steverino

      Thus it should be for every projecting right-wing crook.

  • Natty Enquirer

    Bash is trolling for ratings points. More distraction.

  • Michael R
    • Joe in PA

      rotten cat

      • Richard, another Canuck

        smelly cat!

    • William

      Our kitties shred the paper to tiny bits.

      • M Jackson

        Mine have nefarious designs on most of my furniture. They can claw leather.
        It took J.J. a week and a half to completely disassemble a scratching post I bought for them. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f60f00685025c8026608b8013f5e8987721f52280e6083e259772de61f6f0953.jpg

        • Bryan

          One on the left looks like 2-3 of ours almost.

        • William

          We had a new leather sofa once. The cats made short work of it. Mr Sweetness was so angry he got rid of the sofa. Now he will only buy sofas at yard sales. We go through about two a year.

        • Phil2u

          Very interesting. I have had many cats over the years and only one did any damage to furniture. She pulled the dust liner from underneath an armchair so that she could climb up inside it. I just left her alone, but had to check it out if company came to sit there.

          • M Jackson

            There is no longer any dust liner under my box-springs, so their younger days of nesting up in there are over.

  • Cuberly

    The armchair quarterbacking is getting a little much, and it’s getting my hopes up. And, at the same time, I don’t trust that we’re not being played, in one way or another.

    • billbear1961

      I know.

      There is this from electoral-vote.com this morning:

      Flynn Has “Story to Tell,” Wants Immunity

      Last weekend, it was reported that former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn had been granted immunity by the FBI in exchange for testifying against his former boss, Donald Trump. This would appear to be untrue; the correct story is that he’s trying to broker such a deal with the House and Senate intelligence committees, insisting he has “a story to tell.”

      Experts suggest that it is unlikely the deal will be consummated anytime soon. First, while Congress can grant immunity, they generally try not to do so if they fear interfering with an investigation by law enforcement authorities. The FBI, of course, is actively looking into the Trump-Russia question. The other hold-up is that immunity is generally not granted until officials are sure they can’t get the information they want any other way. With Flynn, we’re not there yet. Still, if he really does have a story to tell, Trump & Co. have to be nervous, since it looks probable that Flynn’s information is going to see the light of day, one way or another.

      http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2017/Pres/Maps/Mar31.html#item-3

  • Sam_Handwich

    I think you could argue that there are people other than Trump who are higher in the “food chain” than Flynn was …. Pence, Sessions, for example

  • Gustav2
    • billbear1961

      When–WHEN??

      • Gustav2

        As soon as Trump and Ryan tell Nunes it is time to reconvene the committee.

        • billbear1961

          Thanks to their use–MISUSE–of a willing accomplice in Nunes, that committee is hopelessly compromised.

          What we need is a special prosecutor.

        • billbear1961

          I’ve seen an article that says the Senate committee will call her before them.

          But I haven’t heard anything from THEM yet about that.

  • kaydenpat

    None of these dang traitors deserve immunity. Send their behinds to jail with the rest of the criminals.

    • Walter Maerlyn

      None of them will get it. It just isn’t going to happen.

  • Henry Auvil

    The trump administration is starting to look like Nixon’s–only compressed into just a few months. Minus the actual accomplishments (diplomatic, civil rights, environment), of course.

    • Gustav2

      Give them a few more minutes and we will be in another Vietnam-like endless war.

      • Sissy Spacedout

        Ummm, GWOT?

        I really don’t think we can blame Trump, or this congress, for that.

        • Gustav2

          Korea

          • Sissy Spacedout

            Are you sure the military will follow his orders?

            I know they should, but will they? If they’re ordered to do something that they know should be unlawful… I dunno.

    • KarenAtFOH

      The problem this time is there is no Democratic Congress to begin impeachment proceedings. The GOP will let Trump do whatever he wants as long as he signs on their dotted line.

    • edrex

      the EPA !

    • Acronym Jim

      The ironic thing is Trump’s undoing of diplomatic, civil rights, and environmental accomplishments.

  • WNY
    • Sissy Spacedout

      Shouldn’t the handcuffs be gold plate?

      • MaryJOGrady

        I think they should be tarnished gold plate, turning his wrists green.

  • Lazycrockett
  • Charlie 2001

    Donald Trump could pardon Michael Flynn if he were convicted of something. Just as he can pardon his kids if they break the law. I doubt he could pardon himself. It is doubtful the Justice Department will give Michael Flynn immunity so he can testify against Trump (though since Jeff Sessions has recused himself from this perhaps it is career civil servant who will make the decision rather than political appointees).

  • Sam_Handwich

    this is an interesting post suggesting that the DoJ probably isn’t interested in Flynn, and last night’s developments were a stunt to bait one of the congressional committees into granting him immunity from any prosecution in exchange for worthless testimony

    Flynn’s Public Offer to Testify for Immunity Suggests He May Have Nothing to Say
    https://www.justsecurity.org/39426/explainer-flynns-request-immunity/

    • Sam_Handwich
      • billbear1961

        Thank you, Sam.

        I guess that takes care of that.

      • billbear1961

        It’s consistent with what electoral-vote.com is saying:

        “First, while Congress can grant immunity, they generally try not to do so if they fear interfering with an investigation by law enforcement authorities.”

        http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2017/Pres/Maps/Mar31.html#item-3

        I posted the whole article a bit earlier in the thread.

      • bkmn

        Remember that Flynn lives in a world of alternative-facts, and has for a long time. When he was at DIA staffers had a list of things he repeatedly stated were truth that were not true. It won’t be easy to know if he does spill if it is true or not, let alone whether it could bring Trump down.

    • Joe in PA

      Thank you for posting. Well done.

    • Bob Conti

      Yeah, it all just seemed to good to be true.

  • Superman

    Do not discount the possibility that Flynn might give up Trump for a blanket immunity and that Trump impeachment threats might follow. The President of South Korea was just brought down. Venezuela’s Supreme Court just dissolved their general assembly today, assumed their powers, and effectively made the Maduro regime a dictatorship. South Africa and Egypt have evolved dramatically. Republics and Democracies can and do shatter.

  • boobert

    I disagree. I think he’ll say pence was lying when he said that was the first he heard of the meetings .

    • William

      It will take more dirt than that to get Flynn a deal.

  • Steverino

    Michael Flynn: the art of the squeal.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    Now that Ivanka is an unpaid but public employee, she can go to prison too, along with Jared and daddy. I wonder who will raise the kids ?

    • Bob Conti

      Tiffany. Who’s just been sitting there quietly on the sidelines, biding her time.

  • Richard

    It appears that Flynn is not about to fall on his sword for the orange man, and who can blame him. Wouldn’t it be weird if Flynn had the goods on both the Orange man and Pence…..yikes !! Impeach them all and hold another election.

    • Bob Conti

      Unfortunately, Ryan would be next in the lineup to the Oval Office. Maybe we could get a rushed amendment to the Constitution for a do-over.

  • Ninja0980

    Bottom line, Flynn nor others that are caught up in this web aren’t going to go to prison for Trump.
    If they need to rat him out to save themselves, they’ll do it in a heartbeat.

  • Friday

    Honestly that claim that “Only Trump is higher up the food chain, therefore it must be Trump personally” doesn’t really follow. There’s no ‘rule’ that says that’s the only reason immunity might be granted: it’s about relative importance of the info and how much of it: for instance, all the co-conspirators, key links in whatever network, enough communications, whatever actually is worthwhile compared to prosecuting the one guy.

  • Queequeg

    If it sends Trump to jail, then give him immunity, for Christ’s sake!

    • Gianni

      They would want to be absolutely sure that whatever info he can give them will snag someone higher up on the food chain (mainly the President) in a solid case of criminal activity. They won’t grant immunity for some piddling info that really gets them nowhere

  • Can’t wait until America is free of domination by King Cheeto and all of his wannabe authoritarian ilk.

  • JCF