CNN Counts Down Trump’s Most Famous Lies [VIDEO]

Hair Furor joined Twitter eight years ago today and to mark the occasion CNN this morning counted down what they believe to be his most outrageous lying tweets. Some of you likely have other candidates for the list. Watch below.

  • Tom G

    Let’s hope he watches this too.

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      I’m sure he’ll let us know how “fake” it is.

      https://twitter.com/BrunoBoelpaep/status/827462984209362944

      • Joe in PA

        The hair that Trump wants. 🙁

        • Friday

          I kind of like it, actually, though it seems to make her head look strange. (That may be optical distortion from an Iphone lens or something, though.)

        • TampaDink

          It is the hair that he thinks he has.

      • -M-

        England would be a better bridge, or counterweight, if they’d just say, ‘Fuck it, Brexit was a stupid idea promoted by Putin to undermine the west’.

    • He probably will at some point. Like Narcissus, he can’t not look at something about himself, especially if it appears on CNN. Word is most of the TVs in the WH are tuned to that channel most of the time, Fox of course being the other one.

      • Todd20036

        At least Narcissus had the looks to go with the vanity.

  • bkmn
  • Todd20036

    Big fucking whoop. How about Obama’s birth certificate? How about Trump’s rape charges? How about the email hype against Clinton?

    How about not treating Trump’s real scandals the same as Clinton’s made up ones?

    How about doing your jobs to prevent an incompetent, insane fascist from reaching the White House?

    You think I’m impressed by this? We fucking knew this over a year ago! We told you before, and you didn’t care because you wanted ratings.

    Fuck you CNN. I’m not even clicking on your article to read shit I knew over a year ago.

    • bkmn

      It is hard to have any respect for CNN whatsoever. They had half a dozen Trump spokespeople on paid retainers for the entire election season…and then there is Corey Lewandowski who continued to serve the Trump campaign while taking a paycheck from CNN. I don’t think I can ever watch CNN again.

      • Robincho

        And don’t forget Frothy, their senior politcal correspondent.

        • another_steve

          Thank you.

          Another reason not to watch CNN.

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      • another_steve

        I channel surf over it and on occasion stop there — but only if they’re interviewing someone of value. Other than that, I can’t stand CNN anymore.

        I hate…HATE HATE HATE…that Jeffrey Lord fuckface who CNN believes merits a seat on their discussion panels. A platform for Lord to rationalize the Trump lie of the day.

        Lord is every bit as slimy and reprehensible as Lewandowski and Conway, but he’s still on the CNN payroll.

      • Ninja0980

        Yup, they scream about Donna Brazile yet say nothing about any of Trump’s folks at all.
        Hypocrisy at its best.

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    • margaretpoa

      times a million.

    • FAEN

      OT-This is the level of hate Cheeto is responsible for

      http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_58cd3ec6e4b00705db4fe0e2?

      • Max_1

        Dealing with this at my place of work… I’m becoming a whistleblower against my boss and his racist hiring/staffing agenda.

        • PickyPecker

          Good luck, Max. Document everything. XO

          • Max_1

            I am…

        • FAEN

          I’m sorry you’re having to deal with that. Please stay safe.

        • Beagle

          Good luck and much success.

    • Max_1

      CNN reminds me of Stewart…
      … Look what I can do!!!

      http://i.makeagif.com/media/5-18-2016/guy1mH.gif

      • Mikey

        he’s just overactive, the little scamp.
        *coughs into a megaphone*

      • Todd20036

        At least he’s fuck-able

    • Ninja0980

      Indeed, they helped put Trump into office as much as anyone, I have no respect for them doing the job now that they should have done a year ago.

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    • Paul David

      A thousand upvotes.

      Historians will look back to the 2016 presidential election and be like, “wtf? made up scandals on the one hand, and very real–completely disqualifying–ones on the other, and they were treated as if they were equal?”

      What a weird election season we had last year.

  • It makes me want to weep, that there are rational, grown adults out there with the power to un-make this Presidency via entirely legal means…and they refuse to act.

    • bkmn

      Any of them that belong to the GOP will do nothing as long as they fear losing the support of Trump’s base. I really hope the Democrats make a very big deal of this during the next two election cycles.

      • vorpal

        I have pretty much given up hope of Democrats ever getting their shit together and actually going out to vote in meaningful numbers, no matter how insane the GOP gets.

        The fact that someone like Trump can become president – which I was convinced was an impossible, sick joke before the election – is a testimony to that.

    • That_Looks_Delicious
      • margaretpoa

        Yep. They’ve demonstrated that nothing is beneath them when it comes to maintaining their power. Nothing is too disgusting abhorrent, illegal or amoral in that quest.

        • Todd20036

          Nope. Rape? Sexual assault? Treason? Lying? Fraud?

          It’s ok if you’re a republican.

          • BJORN RAGNVALDR

            As long as you confess that white jeebiz forgave you, it’s all good.

        • Paula Key

          The checks came in from the NRA as soon as they voted to allow the criminally insane to own a gun.

  • Lazycrockett

    Did they have a panel group of “analyst” to discuss each tweet?

  • Ray Page

    “All we have to do is replace Obama. … We are not auditioning for fearless leader. We don’t need a president to tell us in what direction to go. We know what direction to go. We want the Ryan budget. … We just need a president to sign this stuff. We don’t need someone to think it up or design it. The leadership now for the modern conservative movement for the next 20 years will be coming out of the House and the Senate.

    Pick a Republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become president of the United States. This is a change for Republicans: the House and Senate doing the work with the president signing bills. His job is to be captain of the team, to sign the legislation that has already been prepared.”

    – Grover Norquist at the Republican convention.

    • Sure…but then they went with Donald, the errattic, pathologically narcissistic short-fingered vulgarian whose signature looks like an EKG of a man being electrocuted continuously.

      Grover there also seems to have forgotten there isn’t just one ‘conservative’ contingent in the GOP. They now have the Ryan “let them eat dirt” plutocrats, the burn-it-down Tea-Bagger anarchists, and now also actual Nazis.

      • Ray Page

        No, they didn’t go with Donald. They didn’t care who won as long as it was a Republican. Donald won because he got 100 times the exposure than any other candidate from a complicit and greedy media that cares only about ratings.

        Donald won because the hypocritical evangelicals knew they could manipulate him, therefor they were willing to look past his many sins.

        • Paula Key

          Trump studied Hitler -with his fiery German speeches that inflamed and brought the non-thinking citizen to rally behind him.

      • BobSF_94117

        They actually lucked out with Trump. NO regular politician would get away with the policies he’s implementing.

  • Blake J Butler

    Swastika morphed to a dollar sign, nope this is spot on, given his love for the almighty dollar, helping the rich get richer, stacking a cabinet full of elite wall street trash.

    Phoenix couldn’t have gotten it more right.

    http://www.12news.com/img/resize/content.12news.com/photo/2017/03/17/billboard_1489794435389_8990922_ver1.0.jpg?preset=374-210

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      Sorry, I didn’t see your post before I posted.

      • agcons

        There’s nothing wrong with seeing it twice.

      • TuuxKabin

        We can’t go thru the entire thread to see what’s already here. Look at it this way, I got to see your posting first! =;o)

    • JCF

      Plus nukes!

  • Blake J Butler

    This is why i don’t watch the news, hell i didn’t watch Rachel i just wanted to see the reaction, and we all know how that went. MSNBC nope, CNN giving air time to trump “C”‘s, and i’m proud to say i’m not willfully retarded to watch Fox “News”.

    Stop reporting tweets, stop going after his daily bigoted rants, start reporting with his ties to a oppressive tyrant who most likely meddled in our election, his shady business ties, along with the ethically questionable actions of him and his administration overall.

    • Skokieguy [Larry]

      Reconsider not watching Rachel. She is very dogedly reporting on his Russian and other business ties and actions. She has struggled with how to cover his Presidency and has said, “watch what he does, not what he says”. I think there’s plenty of reasons to watch, plus she’s my best friend (shhh, she doesn’t know)

      • Blake J Butler

        I watched her for a year and a half before the election; I just can’t watch much of anything to do with this presidency and its everyday bullshit topping the previous day.

        I have a life to live, and it became too much to the point where if I continued I would be seeking therapy to deal with it, I quit and its been eons better for me. Until something concrete and groundbreaking happens, then I will go back to watching Rachel, by then I imagine the tables will have already turned against trump like they did for Bush Jr. during his final years, except we’ve gone full speed ahead and trump’s sunk to depths lower than the final W. years/.
        I already expect a revolution is mounting and it does not look pretty for republicans which sounds enlightening for me.

      • Homo Erectus

        I fall asleep with her many nights.

  • That_Looks_Delicious

    Phoenix can be so cool sometimes. This billboard is currently at the art festival.

    http://images.dailykos.com/images/379223/story_image/636253727672474413-billboard-1.jpg?1489855236

  • I feel like I just saw the complete puzzle. This thread:
    https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/842981707087319041

    A complete and entirely rational/plausible explanation of what happened to our election last year and precisely why.

    Short form: It involves gas/oil deals with Russia and Gazprom…which explains everything, including why Tillerson is SecState.

    A couple from toward the end of the tweet-thread:
    https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/842982356889845760
    and
    https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/842982416285388800

    • ggg

      Will anything ever come of any of this?

      • I have no idea anymore. Both my wife and I are only half-jokingly convinced we slipped out of the Earth Prime reality into this nightmarish Trek-like Mirror universe.

        • ggg

          Lol, thanks, it may be helpful to keep this explanation in mind. At least there’s some logic there.

        • Jeffrey

          Um you slipped us in with you. Could you please return us to President Hillary Clinton’s reality, please?

        • Adam King

          I want to go back to my original universe! This one sucks. I blame Barry Allen.

        • vorpal

          I still blame the three Ambiens I took to guarantee unconsciousness during election night so I could just not stress and instead wake up, roll over to CNN, and see the headlines celebrating the landslide victory of President Clinton.

          Maybe if I take three Ambiens again, order will be restored.
          Stay tuned for tomorrow morning.

          • Joe in PA

            VP, what have you done to kitty??? Is that a gas mask on kitty? Oh nooooooo.

          • vorpal

            Kitty and I just want a hope of surviving Trump’s America! Now we match!
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e756b91d5b3de6d5611689bcfa96d595ebe73bc9c6579b8f86dd41a577140083.jpg

          • bzrd

            you may survive Mr. Kitties but there will only cockroaches left to eat

          • Skokieguy [Larry]

            And Cher.

          • Homo Erectus

            But can it protect you in swamp gas?

          • EweTaw

            You have to remember to sleep on your other side for time to reverse.

          • vorpal

            Ack… left side… right side… left side… right side…
            I can’t remember! All this pressure!

            Correct choice: Wake up to President Clinton.
            Incorrect choice: Wake up to US Supreme Court Justice Sarah Palin.

            I may just not risk it and never sleep again…

        • KCMC
        • Zeldacat

          Or worse – we didn’t, and we’re heading straight into WWIII, prior to the Vulcans landing later this century. Depressing, I know, but I’m geeky enough to have gone there.

          • Ray Taylor

            Not so far fetched with Donnie vs Kim Jong-un.

          • Zeldacat

            Exactly. The only good part is that I am within about 6 to 7 hours drive of Bozeman. Perhaps I should hit the road sooner rather than later.

        • Duh-David

          Matt Bai says we’ve slipped into Bizarro World.

          For those who don’t know, the Bizarro World is from the continuity for the Superman comic books. It’s a planet where yes means no, up is down, day is night, black is white and everything else is reversed. On the Bizarro World, Bizarro Donald Trump cares about everyone except himself.

  • Jack

    “Your not allowed to be President” if you weren’t born in the US?

    Not true. Just not true.

    • After all: McCain was born in Panama. Long-term lease does not equal U.S. territory.

      • Earl

        Military bases are considered your territory. Even if leased.

        • And Ted Cruz was born in Canada. Really not interested in a birtherism and ‘what is US territory’ debate.

      • Jack

        Yep.

        As is all too often the case, when Trump speaks, accuracy flies out the window.

    • Rebecca Gardner

      He’s actually right about that. The constitution requires you to be a natural born citizen.

      No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States. ~ Article II, Section 1, Clause 5

      • JerryRich

        There is no requirement that the birth be in the US or its territories.I always use the example of the great cellist Yo-Yo Ma, born in Paris to American citizen parents. He could run for president if he wanted to. And , of course, the vile Ted Cruz, born in Canada, actually did run.

      • Jack

        Natural-born does not mean born in the USA. It has never been defined by the courts. Any number of people not born in the USA have run for President. That leads to the presumption that they were deemed to be natural born citizens.

  • Earl

    They’re showing him way more respect than he deserves.

    I suppose you want to respect the office, but aren’t there limits to that?

  • all of his lies? that’s gotta be the length of an Epic movie. and no, i don’t want to watch it.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Just five. It’s only three minutes.

  • Blackfork

    Amazing. Listen to Chris Hedges ultimage takedown of Trump:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLaoJrg80JQ

    • MaryJOGrady

      But Hillary Clinton was not pure enough for Chris Hedges.

    • Cuberly

      Thanks for posting this!

    • gaymex1

      I don’t know what to say other than thank you for sharing that. I didn’t agree with 100% of what he said, but it was a breath of fresh air and offered some hope…an hour well used.

  • margaretpoa

    Interesting how a network that was a huge part of the problem is now targeted by the one whom they helped win the office. I’d say “what comes around goes around” but I’m just happy they’re doing some actual journalism for a change. I guess a real train wreck, (Trump) gets higher ratings than an imaginary train wreck, (Clinton), eh, CNN?

    • Todd20036

      They aren’t helping much now. So what difference does it make? I won’t reward CNN with clicks.

  • David

    The US corporate news media is 100% complicit in in ALL of this. They put thier proffit above the sovereignty of the US. There would be no Pres. Dump with out his eager collaborators in he US corporate media..

    • RoFaWh

      In the new and improved USA that will rise on the ashes of trumpism, I hope all media are under French rules: the owner has no control over content.

  • Rebecca Gardner
  • I will keep sharing this because it is the truth…

    This is how Trump is playing the media and the American people:

    “If a public figure tells a whopping lie once in his life, it’ll haunt him into his grave. If he lies morning, noon and night, it will become almost impossible to remember any one particular lie. Outrage will fall victim to its own ubiquity.

    It’s the same truth contained in Stalin’s famous remark that the death of one man is a tragedy but the death of a million is a statistic.”-Time Magazine by Bret Stephens

    https://thelastofthemillenniums.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/trump-fact-check1.jpg

  • JT
  • Walter Maerlyn
  • Max_1
    • billbear1961

      If Comey tells us, Monday, that there’s NOTHING to worry about here, HIS next destination should be a PRISON CELL. HE should be INVESTIGATED!!

      There CANNOT be this much SMOKE without FIRE.

      Friend of Political Wire Thomas Wood has put together a remarkable 117-page timeline detailing President Donald Trump’s ties to Russia.

      It’s the most comprehensive (and incriminating done to date), and as Wood notes, “the more detailed and more comprehensive it gets, the more incriminating it all seems.”

      https://politicalwire.com/2017/03/15/ultimate-trump-russia-timeline/

      HERE is the link to the 117 pages:

      https://drive.google.com/file/d/0By1TN7FzSbdQVWl5emlCVkh1Mms/view

      Electoral-vote.com says it’s 118 pages:

      Political Wire has published a 118-page dossier of connections between Trump and Russia going back 30 years. The first 9 pages cover 1987 to 2015, then it moves to 2016. Every item is sourced, with a hyperlink to the original published news story. Sources include major newspapers, television stations, magazines, and major Websites. Pages 32 to 118 cover the period of Sept. 16, 2016 to March 14, 2017. Maybe all of this is just one giant coincidence, but maybe something is really going on below the radar.

      http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2017/Pres/Maps/Mar16.html#item-6

      There’s NO WAY this is “just one giant coincidence.”

      • Max_1

        James Comey is the lynchpin in all of this…

        • billbear1961

          And I do NOT trust him.

          Look what he did to HILLARY.

          There’s NO WAY something very sinister isn’t going on between Trump and Russia.

          • Max_1
          • billbear1961

            Oh, I’m not dancing, dear Max.

            The bear is hopping MAD!

          • PickyPecker
          • David L. Caster

            There very well may be, but I have a bad feeling that all of this smoke could be the result of a fire that cannot be sourced. Tracks have been carefully covered, possibly even well enough that the trail cannot be followed directly back to the President.

            For impeachment to succeed in the sense that POTUS is convicted of “High Crimes” in a Senate trial, and for him to ultimately be criminally charged, there will have to be convincing evidence a crime was committed. Investigators may think there are criminals hiding in the woodwork of the White House, but to truly find a path to the top implicating the President may not be possible. One would hope if that were the case, no crime had indeed been committed, irrespective of our desire to bring an end to the current feckless administration.

            Remember too, that if Congress is itself corrupt, inquiry may be stymied. The DoJ may even be reliable. In the unlikely event that the rest of the investigative, security and clandestine services are infiltrated, critical evidence may already be compromised or destroyed. I would very much like to think this is not the case and eventually any wrongdoing will come to light.

            All of this is serious business. One has to think like a court would, and our system of justice demands a flawless process be followed, otherwise justice cannot be done and the integrity of the republic would be even more imperiled than it appears to now be.

        • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

          … and his boss Jelf Beauregard Sessions is the leprechaun in all this.

          https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnwnR3SVUAQfpZ8.jpg

          • TampaDink

            That elf was an asshole….maybe he really is who Sessions has modeled his life after.

          • Paula Key

            Hey, I’m Irish…we don’t hate leprechauns.

          • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

            Profuse apologies to actual leprechauns.

  • SoCalGal20

    In other, better news I won $2300 at the casino last night!

    • Max_1

      Ha! Just in time for that H.C. Ins. premium rise.

    • Hue-Man

      Your taxes will be remitted directly to Москва.

      • SoCalGal20

        I suppose I should just make my check out to V. Putin.

    • fuzzybits

      Yay!

    • billbear1961
    • RoFaWh

      What are you going to buy me???

  • fuzzybits
    • Andymac3

      This never gets old, only more relevant.

    • Beagle

      Does it mean anything that Dump’s heels are stomping on that flag?

  • billbear1961

    Why isn’t this pathological lying–all these PROVEN lies–reason enough to GET RID OF HIM??

    Truly, how can we trust him or his regime after ALL the LIES, all the lies that KEEP on COMING??

    What happens when the first major crisis, financial or military or “other,” comes along, and we can’t believe what they tell us without constant verification from sources we CAN trust??

    And there remains the FACT that this POS has used the highest elected office in the land to SLANDER his predecessor and that he uses it to spread other WILD conspiracy theories without the slightest SHRED of genuine EVIDENCE!!

    • Skokieguy [Larry]

      I believe its because he is the useful idiot keeping the country busy with his SHINY OBJECT tweets while the vile Republican agenda is put in place and attorneys general & judges put in place that will insure, even after Trump is removed, that the damage will last for generations.

  • Joe in PA

    Yeah, I’m sure Donald I’ll-b-working-so-hard-I’ll-never-leave-the-WH Trump is worried that he’s been “found out”. From the golf course near Mar-a-Lago. For the 8th time in 10 weeks.

  • Mike_in_the_Tundra

    They should have a countdown of all his lies. They could make it into series.

  • PickyPecker
    • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

      That’s food for thought for those who do.

    • RoFaWh

      Does Drumpf ever contemplate the possibility that his fondness for Hitler could lead to the US experiencing what Germany experienced toward the end of WWII: near total destruction???

  • MonochromeMouse

    trump’s biggest lie: “I’m the president of the United States of America”

    • Canadian Observer

      Further proof the Xtians are wrong… the bible he had his hand on during the swearing in didn’t burst into flames.

  • PickyPecker
    • another_steve

      PP, there was discussion on the blog yesterday concerning your newly-green avatar.

      May we assume it’s meant to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day?

      • PickyPecker

        Yes. Was when I was in a lighter mood of fancy.

        • another_steve

          Glad to hear it, actually.

          I proffered the idea that it might have been an acknowledgment of the green Peeps that are in the stores today, everywhere, in anticipation of Easter.

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/044158ee4d89db58b536aa3c7e4d4a41260a03294ba7cd86d9af6f35b66038e9.jpg

          • Helen Damnation 🍑™

            Green is not a natural colour for the blessed Peeps, this is an outrage. I’m starting a petition. Next thing you know they’ll be making blue ones! Enough!

          • another_steve

            Oh STOP IT, GURL!!!

            The young ones want colorful. Times change. They want the colorful.

            (blasphemy…)

          • Skokieguy [Larry]

            Rainbow colored peeps, is this just another way the homosexual lobby is trying to indoctrinate our youth by perverting one of the sacred traditions of Easter? When will this abomination stop!

          • RoFaWh

            Let me do it for you:

            /snark

          • Skokieguy [Larry]

            My gosh, I hope it wasn’t needed, but if it was, thank you!

          • another_steve

            ONE MILLION MOMS BOYCOTT PEEPS!!!

          • jefe5084

            Ya know…are they leading up to a Rainbow assortment of peeps? Is this creeping rainbowism? IT”S TIME FOR A MILLION MOMS BOYCOTT! s/

    • billbear1961

      How are things working out with your dog, sweetheart?

      CJ said he saw a post yesterday where you said the animal hospital now thinks he has a particular degenerative disorder of the spine.

      🙁

      • PickyPecker

        I go OT so often, seemed selfish, but not having a good day. We had him put down early this morning as he was suffering and the Vet said there was nothing more they could do.

        So, here’s to my protector, my companion and my pookie-do pal who is now hopefully enjoying some fresh-cooked pasta in a better place. Hubby and I are having a tough time.
        🙁
        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fec4e6016bb9981ed1ece110cb82ba547f90ca3d83f8e8db7d0534ca103b2b3c.jpg

        • Earl

          I’m sorry for your loss.

          I had to put down one of our cats last year. 🙁

        • Friday

          Awws. *hugs.* Doggie looks like quite a guy.

        • billbear1961

          I’m very sorry, Picky P.

          I love you, sweetheart!

        • yes b’y

          I am so sorry. He was a handsome boy.

        • kareemachan

          I’m sorry – having to make the decision to do this is the worst part of owning pets. They give us so much, and sometimes the best thing we can give them is no pain…

          Hugs.

        • billbear1961

          You bring so MUCH to this site, Picky P.

          I don’t think I could keep posting if you weren’t here; at least, there would be no more music or humour, only grave political posts.

          The atmosphere would be grim.

        • another_steve

          Love to you, PP. The entire JMG community sends you its love.

          Man and I have had to put down several of our cat babies over the years. It’s a terrible terrible thing to live through.

          We understand, and love you.

        • fuzzybits

          I’m sorry for you guys loss. He was gorgeous. 😢❤

        • I’m so sorry. (((hugs)))

        • billbear1961
          • PickyPecker

            XO. Thank you, dearest Bear. And thanks for your kind words everyone else. Alcohol and tears are on the menu tonite at our house.

          • billbear1961

            I’m so very glad your husband is there!

          • TampaDink

            I’ll raise a glass (don’t I always?) in a somber toast to the memory of your beautiful boy who is now free from pain. (And, in being fully invested in my support, I’ve now got tears running down my face.)

          • Menergy

            Likewise, I’m having a margarita in toast to you and your hubby and the memories.

          • TampaDink

            Memories remain….and as time goes by, we remember more of the happy, healthy years with our dearly departed fur babies. But there is always a good reason for a strong drink (or several) and a cry.

          • JCF

            And memories. Don’t stop sharing the HAPPY memories.

        • billbear1961
        • JT

          So sorry. Hugs, PP.

        • billbear1961

          There’s nothing selfish about grief.

          XO

        • johncAtl

          What a beauty. Hugs!

        • fuzzybits

          Agree with billbear,nothing selfish about grief. When our first cat was put down I wailed so loud everyone heard me in the waiting room.

          • RoFaWh

            I suspect that veterinary staff are familiar with the phenomenon of loud outcries after euthanasia.

          • Beagle

            My goal is always to keep it together during the pet’s last moments. The animal is in enough distress, and I’m not going to give it a reason to worry about me as well. Before or after — at least once I started wailing in the waiting room.

          • RoFaWh

            Of late, when it’s time to euthanize in this household, I have the vet’s mobile clinic come to the house to do it. At the very least it spares an animal nearing death the further indignity of being put in a carrier and given a car ride they don’t like.

            This has the slight further advantage of allowing one to wail one’s heart out as soon as the vet leaves, for as long as one wants.

            This is definitely an animal loving city.

          • Beagle

            We’ve done that twice, with our Himalayan Max and a few years later with his litter mate (or so we think) Marie. We didn’t see that Marie had stayed in the room for Max’s last moments, and she grieved hard. She might have starved to death if we hadn’t inserted a feeding tube.

            The other times, the cat was already in the hospital and would have been seriously stressed (in a couple cases, might not even have survived) on the drive home.

          • Menergy

            I know — we had over time had to euthanize about 15 pet cats (some rescues taken into our home and a big indoor population in a San Francisco Victorian- and it never was easy or dry eyed when I or my wife finally nodded it was time to inject the pet out of compassion and held the dear cat while he/she quietly stopped being alive in our arms. I brought a big shipping cardboard box of little pine boxes with ashes in each and named for the pet, with me to New Mexico — thinking I’ll have to erect a Mousoleum here someday to house the cremains……

        • SoCalGal20

          Awwww I’m so sorry PP. 🙁

          I love that photo of him. 🙂

          • PickyPecker

            He adored the snow. Last few years, we’ve been getting less and less, tho.

          • SoCalGal20

            I can tell! That’s too bad you haven’t had as much snow in recent years for him to enjoy but he looks like he was having a good time in that photo.

          • Lumpy Gaga

            Agreed. He’s clearly Having a Moment there.

        • worstcultever

          so, so sorry picky – love and hugs

        • PickyPecker

          Missed posting this yesterday…..sortof an odd day. But a late message from our other pet, Zuzu. African gray. Last I kept count his vocabulary was about 220 individual words in English and some varying words in Polish, Spanish and Dutch.
          He’s been asking all this week for the dog.
          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bff8ae5422df00ebfab13b4df58d2af6979d50abc3abb763c87c4891aa026135.jpg

          • JT

            Are those Zuzu’s petals? Time for a group hug. Zuzu wants a hug too.
            http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/kissing-soccer-players-sports-kissing-gifs.gif

          • Dreaming Vertebrate

            Sounds like Zuzu is speaking ten or more grade levels above Dumpf. Grays are extremely smart.

          • jefe5084

            WOW. More words than Trump knows.

            Best wishes at this time. Heartbreaking

          • SoCalGal20

            Awwwww. I know they’re very smart!

          • billbear1961

            Picky, your parrot has a bigger vocabulary than most Trumpists!

          • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

            Zuzu belongs to a species that is very social and very sensitive. He will grieve as much as you and your hubby will. You three will be there to comfort each other.

          • Niblet58

            Poor Zuzu.

        • Richard, another Canuck

          He’s such a cutie, a bundle of love. So sorry for the two of you. Hugs…

        • Boreal

          So sorry. ;(

        • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

          In memory of your lovely companion.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWD8d_YL30o

        • TuuxKabin

          A wonderful photo of your pal, companion. I am so sorry Picky Pecker. So sorry.

          https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/e8/4b/53/e84b53679ceee12f686492d7093adaf8.jpg

        • Ninja0980

          Sorry for your loss.

        • Skokieguy [Larry]

          I’m so sorry. You did a noble thing so your sweetheart wouldn’t suffer, love to you and your hubby.

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f43f143efbd65226d49b20650fb6b535ca0ed81f867919a19fec1dd7067508ee.jpg

        • -M-

          Hugs to you all.

        • TampaDink

          (((((PickyPecker & Family))))) I’m so sorry for your loss.
          Having been there more than once, all I can say is try to think of how great his life was by being adopted by such loving humans.

        • barrixines

          Heartbreaking to hear that about your furry pal there – he was a handsome chap in that photo. Really, really sorry, PickyPecker.

        • M Jackson

          He was lovely.
          They are only on this earth to love us and in the end their spirits go so quickly and so easily. To not let them suffer, just so we can have a little more time with them, is the best thing we can do for them in the end.
          You will have such wonderful memories of this guy.

        • Anastasia Beaverhousen

          So sorry. The deepest grief I have known is my dear Big Fat Dog. I still miss him.

          • RoFaWh

            With me, it was the euthanasia of my orange cat Mao-Jai in 2006. For six months, I would suddenly and inappropriately (for the circumstances) burst into loud sobbing.

        • CharlestonDave

          I’m very sorry to read of the loss of your friend, PP. A pet’s death scores high on instruments that measure a person’s stress index. It’s in the neighborhood of the death of a parent or spouse. So, take care of yourself, and don’t let the stress and grief make you sick.

          The American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) has a page offering advice for coping with the loss of a pet. I hope it’s helpful to you and the hubby:

          https://www.avma.org/public/PetCare/Pages/pet-loss.aspx

        • xersnoyl

          So sorry to hear about your loss. He looks to have certainly been a beautiful and wise fellow.

        • Stogiebear

          Such a pretty dog. So sorry to hear of this and your hurt.

        • Gianni

          So very sorry to hear of your loss. It is heart-wrenching to have to make that decision. I’m sure I can say confidently that most of us here have been in that place and can feel it with you.

        • Cuberly

          Pookie-do pal was a cutie. So sorry for your loss Picky.

          Sending you and your hubby a long distance hug. ((((()))))

        • Ragnar Lothbrok

          Please take comfort in knowing how lucky he was to have you.

        • BearEyes

          so sorry to hear this. My condolences and big bear hugs to you and yours.

        • RoFaWh

          The last gift our pets give us is a lesson in dealing with death.

          Go get a rescue puppy immediately.

          • Beagle

            I must disagree with that advice. Adopt when the time is right. If that’s now, do it now. If you need time, take that time.

          • JCF

            I would suggest you might consider fostering, even if you’re not ready&able to adopt.

        • Bryan

          He’s a good dog.

        • Jukesgrrl

          So sorry for your loss.

        • Menergy

          Big warm hug from me, PickyPecker; and my condolences for your and your hubby’s terrible, heartbreakingly sad loss. Of course, the humane thing to do was to euthanize your pet and friend. I know your Zuzu will continue for a time to find it strange her dog friend isn’t around.

        • Mike_in_the_Tundra

          Please accept a big hug from me. I know how devastated you must be. He was a beautiful dog.

          My last dog had to be euthanized in 2003. I still miss him, and his collar still hangs in our living room.

        • Beagle

          My condolences, PP. We’ve had to say goodbye to two of our cats in the past year. We never get enough time with them.

        • JCF

          Aw! Weeping…

          Enjoy your Golden Tail, sweet boy.

          }-(….

        • Mike_in_the_Tundra

          The Rainbow Bridge (Inspired by a Norse Legend)

          By the edge of a woods, at the foot of a hill,
          Is a lush, green meadow where time stands still.
          Where the friends of man and woman do run,
          When their time on earth is over and done.

          For here, between this world and the next,
          Is a place where each beloved creature finds rest.
          On this golden land, they wait and they play,
          Till the Rainbow Bridge they cross over one day.

          No more do they suffer, in pain or in sadness,
          For here they are whole, their lives filled with gladness.
          Their limbs are restored, their health renewed,
          Their bodies have healed, with strength imbued.

          They romp through the grass, without even a care,
          Until one day they start, and sniff at the air.
          All ears prick forward, eyes dart front and back,
          Then all of a sudden, one breaks from the pack.

          For just at that instant, their eyes have met;
          Together again, both person and pet.
          So they run to each other, these friends from long past,
          The time of their parting is over at last.

          The sadness they felt while they were apart,
          Has turned into joy once more in each heart.
          They embrace with a love that will last forever,
          And then, side-by-side, they cross over… together.

        • Paula Key

          Ah, dear brothers: You did the right thing even though it broke your hearts. Your darling’s spirit is with you. We cannot see our loved pets suffer – I’ve had to let my dog Kelly go and two lovely cats – Orca and Puffin. I am using your pet’s beautiful countenance to blog on my site with the poem. I need to honour him…even though…I never had the joy of meeting him.

        • Niblet58

          So very sorry for your loss.

      • RoFaWh

        That’s what I’ve got. At the moment “it” (my spine) amuses itself by causing sudden, sharp, intense pains in one calf, causing me to jump in the air and start shouting obscenities. It’s over before I am!

        • billbear1961

          I’m very sorry to hear this, RFW.

          We have a friend on the west coast whose spine is slowly degenerating.

          It’s a source of much worry, grief and incredible frustration.

          He’s often in a lot of pain and requires frequent surgical interventions.

          🙁

          I hope you’ll be well for as long as possible, and that they’ll find a way to arrest the condition and possibly even reverse it.

          • RoFaWh

            My doc is trying to organize a 3-way meeting between him, the doc from the pain clinic, and a surgeon familiar with lower spine issues. At the moment it looks like they’ll try another round of injections, but not the same epidural injections of cortisone I had last fall (which did very little).

            It’s over a year now that I’ve been in continuous pain, sometimes more intense than I ever thought it could be, other times just aches, burning sensations, etc.

            I’m a heavy marijuana user and wonder if that’s at least in part a form of self-medication with the miracle herb.

            The most annoying thing is that I can take either of two classes of analgesics: opiates (dilaudid and tramadol) or nsaids (diclofenac, ibuprofen, etc). Unfortunately, the opiates leave me high for a day after taking them and the nsaids are causing kidney problems so I can’t take them as much as I’d like.

            That’s it for painkillers.

          • billbear1961

            It is certainly a fully justified medicinal use of marijuana.

            Best of luck with the injections!

            I hope they come up with a solution that affords you relief!

  • fuzzybits
    • another_steve

      I pity her days but envy her nights. (Read: in bed with Jared Kushner)

      (Paraphrase of a line from Robert Graves’ utterly brilliant “I, Claudius.”)

      • David

        Her Daddy taught her real well.

        • another_steve

          With Melania, it’s the opposite.

          I pity her nights but envy her days.

          • TampaDink

            Particularly the week days….when hair furor is a couple hundred miles away.

    • David

      That’s what her Daddy told her every time he molested her.

      • andrew

        You sound like Trump, making an outrageous statement like that without a shred of evidence.

        • another_steve

          There’s no “evidence,” true. But Trump’s own words would be used in a court of law against him.

          Talking about his daughter as if she were a sex object for him.

          Pretty shameful… don’t ya think?

          • Gianni

            When I heard Trump speak about his daughter the way he did with Howard Stern, I couldn’t help but think that daddy looks at his daughter with some lust. Not too far fetched to think he might boink her if given the chance. Most fathers would happily and proudly talk about how pretty, beautiful, attractive their daughters are, but to all but drool about how stacked she is and how I’d date her if…….? That’s a bit much.

          • RoFaWh

            Drumpf’s parents were never admitted to NYC high society and their son is good evidence for the reason.

          • TuuxKabin

            That’s how she got her name. I’dBonkHer. Taken from another commentater tot here.

          • RoFaWh

            What got me was during the campaign, when he slowly stroked her flank in a manner that no one in their right mind would describe as anything other than “sexual”.

          • Max_1
          • RoFaWh

            That’s it. Thanks.

            That tiny scenelet alone convinced me that it’s impossible to say anything about Drumpf worse than the reality.

          • RoFaWh

            I’m waiting until he’s charged with treason and his bond is set at ten percent of his worth of $15 billion, i.e. $150 million. Sounds fair and equitable to me.

            He wouldn’t be able to raise that amount in the cash that bond payments are made in.

        • kareemachan

          Sarcasm. Hyperbole. Snark. Mordancy.

          It happens in internet comments. Calm down.

          • andrew

            I am the epitome of calm. I’m merely pointing out an outrageous and unsubstantiated comment. In this the Age of Trump we should value truth and objectivity more, since both are under serious attack.

          • JT

            Are you aware of the snark? Perhaps you should go on a hunting expedition.

    • Claude Jacques Bonhomme
    • JT

      A family of liars.

    • RoFaWh

      Ivanka Trump? That ninny?

  • Michael R

    Trump’s job is to distract us while President Bannon destroy’s Democracy .

    • David L. Caster

      With or without the aid of the GOP controlled congress. Without congress, Bannon can destroy the administrative parts of government. With congress, he gets the added bonus of destroying the rest of government and anything it might do for the rest of the country. The wellbeing of the nation is of no concern to them. They are evil opportunists and criminally negligent in their duty to the Constitution, their malfeasance knowing no bounds.

  • Max_1
  • Hue-Man

    Canada’s Girl Guides cancel US trips because of Donald Trump’s travel restrictions
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/485615a916a89c818887c9f72a6d9e61f5888556313e0c351761ca3110cb9d1d.jpg

    • another_steve

      His reign will be over when he twitter-insults Yiddish elderly women.

      Trust me on this.

      You insult Yiddish elderly women, you die.

      • Mikey

        Maybe an old gypsy woman could whisper “thinner” in his ear? or steal one of his buttons?

        • another_steve

          If you go back far enough, I’m sure there are common links among all Eastern European witches. “Witches” understood broadly. “Casters of curse.”

          Ashkenazi Jews have a long long history in this regard. In my personal lineage it was passed down many hundreds of years to my mother. Her mother and her mother’s mother were proficient in it. As a very young child, I remember my great-grandmother casting curses.

          It was never a “formal” act. Rather, it was a whispered thing.

          If you didn’t watch and listen closely, you’d miss it.

          • Mikey

            well, I wasn’t trying to be historically accurate :-p
            I was just referencing two particularly well-known horror movies that involved gypsy curses.

      • Skokieguy [Larry]

        My mom has been going to the same beautician for almost 50 years. The woman who still does her hair started as an apprentice at 16. When my folks go to a restaurant and get horrible service or a store does something outrageous, she will mention it. Of course it becomes a subject of discussion and within six months the place is gone. I call it the Jewish Mafia. [No they don’t burn the place down, just the bad word of mouth spreads like wildfire]

        • another_steve

          Exactly. So glad you’re here, Larry. Culturally, we speak the same language.

          You mess with the balabustas, you die.

          It’s really that simple.

          You mess with the balabustas, you die.

          • Skokieguy [Larry]

            Thanks sweetie, I think the same of you and always enjoy your posts.

    • RoFaWh

      Dare I hope that drumpf will never pollute Canada’s air and soil with a visit? After all, we denizens of the great white north are known to be a bunch of race mixers.

      Edit: A canajun joke to lighten the atmosphere:

      “The boy scouts and the girl guides.”

  • Ninja0980

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/18/us/politics/neil-gorsuch-supreme-court-conservatives.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0
    Next to whatever wars he starts, this will be the most damaging outcome of Trump’s election and Democrats not being able to take back the Senate.
    Not only will Trump be able to reshape SCOTUS but the lower courts as well, which for most purposes, ARE the last word.

    • billbear1961

      Any nominee who isn’t a moderate should be BLOCKED.

      He has NO mandate to do anything extreme: he lost the popular vote to Hillary by almost three MILLION votes (and that’s assuming he actually won the E.C. without help from Russian hackers or GOP cheats in MI, WI and PA. Look how DESPERATE they were to stop the recounts and the examination of vulnerable old voting machines!).

      The Democrats must do everything they can to keep far-right extremists off SCOTUS.

      If they’re AFRAID to use the filibuster, they might as WELL lose it.

      But once it’s GONE, it’s GONE.

      McConnell better think TWICE about abolishing it.

      • Ninja0980

        Sad to say but for the lower courts, nothing we can do, as it is gone there.
        It had to be done but it sadly also ensured we can’t stop any extreme nominees in the future (not that we really did anyway.)

  • David

    I am no fan of Jeb Bush. But he was 100% correct when he said during the GOP primary, the media spent all of its time unfairly focusing on Dump, ignoring everyone else.

    • TampaDink

      Don’t get too excited about Jeb….I saw this headline yesterday.
      Jeb Bush: Trump on ‘right path’ but needs to fill agency posts

      http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/jeb-bush-trump-on-right-path-but-needs-to-fill-agency-posts/2316996

      • Ninja0980

        Jeb wanted to be where Trump was at.
        If nothing else, he considers Betsy Devos a close personal friend.
        As I’ve said from the start, Trump is merely the result of Republicans going further and further to the right since the Nixon days.

        • TampaDink

          They are all alike, in that they are far more focused on how to improve their own lot in life & how to keep those of of “have nots” where we are than solving the problems of our country & the planet.

          • Ninja0980

            Yup and any Republicans who think otherwise have long been purged from the party.
            Richard Hanna was the last moderate left and he has been replaced by a right wing teabagger who wants to make herself the next Michelle Bachmann.
            Only question is if the district to the north of me has gone full right or not.
            If it hasn’t, she’ll be a one and done.

          • TampaDink

            I’m pulling for sanity to return to the American electorate & that more eligible & sane people will begin to take part in the electoral process.

          • Ninja0980

            With 24/7 media, how many decent people will want to put themselves through that?

          • TampaDink

            I can’t say….but if we continue to see low voter turn out then we should expect to be renamed something along the lines of the United States of Russia.

          • Ninja0980

            Indeed… and watch as Republicans destroy every thing progressives claim to care about but won’t show up to vote for.

          • TampaDink

            I know….it is just a matter of time until your theory proves to be correct. I wish that I thought & could believe that you are wrong.

          • Ninja0980

            I wish I was too but if SCOTUS couldn’t get them out, nothing will.

          • TampaDink

            Agreed on that too.

  • Natty Enquirer

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/18/donald-trump-disregard-words-truth-finally-catching-up-with-him:

    Incredibly, Trump has never had to pay a political price for his malign speech, shameless evasions and legion lies. To the contrary. By treating words as potent and weightless – potent, as tools to skewer opponents; and weightless, without lasting consequence – he greased his way to a spectacular political rise.

    Until now. In the past three days, in the worlds of law and diplomacy, the president has been confronted with the consequences of his inflammatory speech. On Wednesday, Judge Derrick Watson issued a temporary restraining order blocking the administration’s revamped travel ban.

    The British are now trying to teach Trump a similar hard lesson. But Trump is a stubborn or dull pupil. In refusing to utter a word of regret, much less apology, he is sticking to his tried and true script. Apologies are recognitions of mistake and Trump by his own lights commits none.

    • EweTaw

      So it’s true. He is Jesus. Who’d a thunk it?

    • Donald is both a stubborn and dull pupil. Also pathologically narcissistic and basically a monster wearing the badly dyed, fraying skin of a human being.

      • RoFaWh

        His resistance to merely apologizing (so it appears) tells me that his ego is very, very fragile. “Can’t apologize, sign of weakness.”

      • David L. Caster

        His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.

        Big Lie: Usage in Hitler’s psychological profile (Emphasis mine)

    • RoFaWh

      The reason drumpf has never had to pay a political price for his antics before is simple: he’s never really been involved in politics before.

  • Homo Erectus
    • Ninja0980

      There is a special election next month as well as elections this fall in NJ, VA and elsewhere.
      We can start voting out Republicans now, not just next year.

      • Jukesgrrl

        Even those of us who don’t live there can contribute money and/or work phone banks from home. April 18 is the date of an upcoming election in Georgia’s 6th Congressional District to fill the seat formerly held by Dr. Tom Price, currently the sociopath running Health and Human Services into the ground for Tsar Trumpov. Changing demographics in this District make a Democratic win possible. The Dem candidate is Jon Ossoff who has the support of John Lewis and Hank Johnson. He currently runs a firm specializing in anti-corruption investigations.
        https://electjon.com/about-jon/

  • Michael R

    Here’s some good news

    A new poll says that the majority of Americans between the ages of 18 and 30 view Donald Trump as an “illegitimate president,” according to TheHill.com.

    A meager 22 percent of young adults approve of the president’s job performance with 62 percent disapproving.

    ( Which means they have to be up and voting next election , something to focus on . )

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/majority-of-young-adults-in-us-view-trumps-presidency-as-illegitimate-poll/

    • Ninja0980

      If they don’t vote, it won’t matter.

    • Jukesgrrl

      I spent several hours yesterday at a protest about healthcare held at the Tucson office of Sen. Jeff Flake. Again, as with all protests and resistance meetings I’ve attended in Tucson since November, fewer than one out of every 50 in attendance is under the age of 50. This particular protest was designed to last 10 hours, with participants requested to sign up for two-hour shifts. So excuses like “I have school” or “I have to work” don’t hold any more water than poorly attended weekend actions. I attended an ACLU meeting where more than 250 people showed up. There I counted five people who appeared to be under age 50. It was SUNDAY afternoon. I hate to sound like a “get off my lawn” type, but where are these unhappy young people? When I was in my twenties young people LED protest movements. Decades later, we appear to be still the only ones showing up.

    • Tomcat

      Yeah but 38% of those 18 to 30 voted for Donald. That is a large percentage. I do not feel sorry for any of them, they live in a make believe fantasy world of super heroes and super villains. Best of luck to them for the next 30 years of a republican Supreme Court.

  • Lazycrockett
    • That_Looks_Delicious

      He really was the guy who started it all.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jql4GF2LKaU

    • TampaDink

      R.I.P. to a legend. Thanks for the music.

      • Homo Erectus
        • TampaDink

          At the tender age of 9, this was my first introduction to Chuck Berry. Having said that, I can not think of the word “ding-a-ling” without thinking of the scene in “Priscilla, Queen of the Desert” when Bob’s wife gets into his locked cabinet of ping pong balls…and as he drags her off the stage in shame she declares “I don’t like you anymore. You got a little ding-a-ling!”

          • Homo Erectus

            Chuck was the guy that told me it was OK to play with your own ding-a-ling.

          • TampaDink

            I think that I got that lesson from a 2nd grade class mate.
            I’m sure that I’ve mentioned that I was “an early bloomer”.
            By the way…did you read about the 2nd fire to roar through what was the Ybor Resort & Spa?

          • Homo Erectus

            No! Did they really need to hide the evidence?

          • TampaDink

            At this point, it seems that the business had been purchased by a new owner & the old owner closed it down late last month. So…my guess is that the first strike of Jewish Lightning didn’t do quite as much as the new owner wanted, in order to have the right to bulldoze the historic building & replace it with something shiny & new (and not a bath house).

    • Jukesgrrl

      By all accounts, not a nice person. But his influence on the culture is undeniable.

  • Cuberly
    • That_Looks_Delicious

      I had to watch that loop about 10 times before I got it. At first I thought it was Matt Lauer.

      • Cuberly

        lol…

  • Canadian Observer

    Few decisions I have made in my life give me quite the warm fuzzy feeling that deciding against setting up a Twitter account provides.

  • Henry Auvil

    America has elected a mentally ill person as president. That is the only issue worth discussing at this point.

    • JWC

      what is worth discussing is what to do about it

    • Ross
      • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

        There must be a reliable paper trail. Strange how other countries manage to run honest elections in a paper-based system, sometimes computer tabulated. The good old system also creates a lot of multi-partisan and non-partisan jobs for honestly counting.

        Strangely enough, final results end up getting out earlier with those manual counts.

        • Ross

          ALL voting machines should be via a paper ballot.

          NO voting machines should be paperless electronic.

          But the Democratic party is doing nothing about this.

        • Hue-Man

          I know I’m a Luddite but what difference does it make if the results take an extra 2 hours or 2 days to count using a manual ballot? I realize U.S. voting is more complicated with Congress, governor, state house and senate, and Prop ballots on the same day but HIRE MORE PEOPLE!

          Who wouldn’t swap speed if the result was more certain?

          • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

            That’s exactly what Canada does. It uniformly has ballot boxes in sufficient numbers to deal with the population, and hires a lot of people to count efficiently, with observers from all parties who want to observe.

          • RoFaWh

            But Canada doesn’t have the enormous, complex ballots necessary in some places, e.g. California.

          • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

            True. Deeper electoral reform would be needed to separate all the state, local and federal elections, as well as the initiatives. Some of the required changes would require a constitutional amendment, so it’s not going to happen.

          • Former Cali resident here. California’s ridiculous ballots aren’t necessary. The problem is twofold: One is instead of passing laws and ordinances, the state legislature and local gov’ts keep shoving stuff they should be voting on onto the ballot, as if it absolves them from any political risk. The second problem is the bar for gaining entry for any random Proposition onto the ballot is way the fuck too low.

            Both are asking typically uneducated voters to make important decisions on complex policy positions, which ain’t how representative gov’t really ought to work.

          • Tomcat

            Give the job to Walmart, they can detect their product immediately, not that difficult.

        • safari

          Michigan has a paper trail. However, our law says the ballots can’t be recounted if the computer reports a wrong number of ballots.

          • -M-

            Ugh 😑.

            We need to get rid of these stupid laws that leave our elections open to abuse.

          • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

            What’s the point, then?

          • safari

            *shrugs*

          • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

            That’s the reaction Trump, the GOP and the deplorables want. Americans can’t just shrug. But it’s hard to keep outrage up, day in/day out.

        • Tomcat

          I have pushed for a paper receipt when voting and I have always felt like I was swimming against the tide pushing for it.
          Maybe now is the time to push again for paper receipts.

    • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

      Not really… the whole complicit system that got him elected is worth investigating.

    • It’s way bigger than just that. If it was only a mentally ill President, normal processes would see him removed, quickly, under Section 4 of the 25th Amendment. If it was only a criminally corrupt one, we’d see him impeached in quick order — and Constitutional and legal scholars have pointed out Donald has already committed any number of offenses, high crimes & misdemeanors, which would warrant immediate removal.

      But we have an entire political party that has been corrupted, because they — the Republicans — appear not even to be interested to learn just how badly compromised Donald is. Nor to learn just how much Russia did and continues to manipulate the US through hacks, leaks, and deliberately destabilizing propaganda.

      And behind it all, we have millions of stupid, uneducated, gullible Americans who’ll believe anything they read on the Internet or see on TV provided it confirms their unconscious biases and prejudices, allowing their attitudes to be shaped by those who do not mean us — we Americans — well. Worse, these people whose critical thinking abilities have been turned off actually exist across the entire political spectrum, from far left to far right.

      The vulnerability remains a gigantic gaping wound in America’s collective psyche. People on the far left are being propagandized into believing progressives and the center left are identical to what the Republicans have become. And the Trumpers and those on the far right are being propagandized into believing Donald isn’t a horror-show of incompetence, malfeasance, and NPD-fueled total ignorance, nor that a large portion of his administration is filled with people unfit for their jobs or outright Nazis and/or Putin worshipers.

      Donald lies constantly. Every day. The problem isn’t really so much that he lies, it’s that his lies are being given a pass. They’re being ignored. We’re wasting time refuting the latest lie even as he’s queuing up the next one. His lies have been normalized and seen as a problem to be dealt with, but not as a trait unacceptable in the country’s President.

      Put more simply: The problem isn’t the madman in the Oval Office. It’s that he’s being allowed to remain there and to go on being President.

  • worstcultever

    They will all end up in prison. I am not worried.

    – NYT comment on a Trump article from a while back, and still my favorite comment from anywhere ever

  • JWC

    Gee gosh wilikers I guesss the Take away here is no one likes CNN good call

  • Ninja0980

    O/T but Donna Brazille decided to weigh in on giving debate questions away.
    Wrong thing to do but I’m just betting you all of the pundits did that, she was the only one who got caught.
    IMO, it shows why pundits should not be on cable news, they serve no purpose.

    • evan_or

      That’s not what she did. Stop repeating this nonsense.

  • (Butcher Bill voice) “Oopsie-daisy!”

    https://twitter.com/pattonoswalt/status/843235918731337728

    Why this is important? Because membership in that organization would’ve disqualified Gorka for U.S. citizenship, which he obtained around 2012 if memory serves.

  • Max_1

    The first thing a TYRANT does is discredit the media’s reporting on him.
    The first thing a DICTATOR does is discredit the Judiciary that blocks his E.O.’s.
    The first thing a TREASONOUS leader does is have members of his cabinet , transition team and campaign staff be the links to the Russian mob, Russian intel community and Russian president.

    Is it America first, yet?

  • Ninja0980

    https://twitter.com/Khanoisseur/status/821561780870647808
    Just a reminder when investigating the Russian connections to include Jill Stein.
    IMO, she was in on the plot to undermine Hillary and the DNC up to her eyeballs.

    • I’m old enough…well, plenty of anecdotes, but let’s just say that my 1st experiences with the Internet included having to explicitly find server paths to send email from one place to another. Paths which inevitably would break as servers were taken offline or reconfigured. ‘Social media,’ as such, would first come into being as private bulletin-board services (BBSs) usually hosted by individuals.

      I never imagined that cable television and the mass media would converge with social media in such a way that a foreign power, sufficiently motivated, could so thoroughly infiltrate and corrupt America’s electoral processes for their own ends — and succeed.

    • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

      “Oh! What a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive”

  • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

    Doggie “Vlad Putin” and his Trump doll:

    https://www.facebook.com/100010902512781/videos/401746443532103/

    • Max_1

      T-Bagged, indeed!

      Now, who was it that T-Party voted for?
      Seems like they’re getting Trumped!

      The dog’s getting his Trump on…

  • Cuberly

    OT: If interested, the latest on the Oroville Dam Spillway. They re-opened the spillway due to the lake level rising. Also, the weather has been warming and this coming week is expected to be rather wet.

    I’ve been following this guy on Youtube, he has some great detail on the challenges as well as the status on what’s being done. This is new territory in a lot of ways.

    He’s usually quite good in his photography but this time he sort of jerks around a bit. He was obviously watching the damaged spillway open vs watching it through the camera.

    May not be to everyone’s liking but I like this sort of stuff.

    https://youtu.be/kQe0J5NLLT4?t=24

    • Max_1

      Naturally Cuberly… Most men care about where they spill away.

      • Cuberly

        Whoa, if I have anything warranting a cubic feet discharge measurement….call an ambulance.

        • Bryan

          Hammerspace Nadz!

  • Snarky

    How the fuck did we get here?

    It’s a rhetorical question. I know the different events and forces that got Trump into the White House, I just shake my head and ask myself that question every once in a while because I still can’t believe it.

    • Openly partisan (but ratings-dependent) ‘news’ channels + the unique vulnerability presented by social media and Americans gullible enough to believe anything as long as it confirms certain underlying biases.

      • Ninja0980

        The Southern Strategy and the Republican Revolution of 1994 as well.

  • Lazycrockett
  • JCF

    “Why do you say things you know are not true?” German journalist to Drumpf. Asking a question that American reporters apparently don’t have the ‘nads to ask.

    • Tomcat

      They have asked him that question many times and he just does not care.

  • David

    60 days down, only 1,580 more days left in Dump’s 1st term.

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  • bambinoitaliano

    When a 5 year old is aware of what millions of his supporters could not. https://youtu.be/0POHnKF2pH4.

    • TampaDink

      Starting @1:34 this kid won me over.

  • Guest

    And the pathological liar says…
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6_iB7AWgAARWF2.jpg

    • Homo Erectus

      In jeezus name, Amen!