GERMANY: Renewed Push For Same-Sex Marriage

Pink News reports:

The junior party in the ruling coalition in Germany has announced a new bid for same-sex marriage. The Social Democrats (SPD), the junior party in coalition with Angela Merkel’s Christian Democrats announced the new bid on Sunday.

Accoring to Thomas Oppermann, the parliamentary leader for the SDP, the Green Party will also push for the move. Oppermann suggested to Der Spiegel magazine that his party would push for pardons for men convicted of historic gay sex offences.

The SDP hopes that in the upcoming September elections, that it may be able to form a government with smaller parties, and move away from the coalition with the Christian Democrats.

Recent polling shows majority support for same-sex marriage across Germany.

  • WitlessProtection

    Cue Brian Brown in 3…2…1…

  • Snownova

    About bloody time. It’s embarassing having such a major part of the EU lag behind in that area.

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      Especially since the German people are way near the top in acceptance.

      http://www.out.com/sites/out.com/files/2015/05/30/buzzfeed1.jpg

      • What’s the date on that table, do you know? Because support for marriage in the US has been running 55-60% over the past couple of years.

        • That_Looks_Delicious

          2011

      • Cipher

        Way to go Spain! The Inquisition and their Most Catholic Majesties in the 15th century–fascism until 1975 –gay marriage in 2005 — to the new king meeting with gay rights groups in his first 100 days. Tops my vacation list!

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  • That_Looks_Delicious

    I wish them success.

  • Boreal

    OT:

    Supreme Court Won’t Hear Major Case on Transgender Rights
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/06/us/politics/supreme-court-transgender-rights-case.html

    • That_Looks_Delicious
      • Todd20036

        Caitlyn will get the biggliest bunk in the concentration camp

    • easygoingmister

      Le sigh.

    • billbear1961

      They did this because of the Trump regime’s withdrawal of support for trans students. Chilling. Does this mean that FIVE of the eight supported this move? Kennedy and one of the liberals–Breyer? It was Breyer who joined the conservatives to stay the 4th’s ruling.

      And if the 4th Circuit stands up for the transboy’s rights a SECOND time? (which I hope they do).

      • It’s probably more technical than that: the Trump regime’s repeal of the Obama administration’s guidance changes the government’s case. Under those circumstances, it’s normal for the Supreme Court to remand it back to the lower court.

        • billbear1961

          I didn’t know that!

          • Actually, I misspoke — it changes the plaintiff’s case. The end result is the same: new parameters, so the lower court needs to look at it again. SCOTUS can’t really do anything with it until the 4th renders a decision under the new conditions.

  • billbear1961

    There has been BIG support–usually 65% or higher–for marriage equality in Germany for years.

    It’s similar in Austria and Australia, and almost as high in Switzerland.

    The problem isn’t the PEOPLE–it’s politicians.

    • Tawreos

      The anti-gay people are usually louder and more likely to say something.

      • billbear1961

        Yes, but they don’t have as much clout as they do in the States.

        At least, they didn’t.

        • If you look at Australia, they’re at least as powerful there as they are here.

          • billbear1961

            Maybe, for blocking marriage equality; but not for most other matters: in most if not all other areas, discrimination is not permitted against us in Australia. (And they do have civil unions, or something similar, for same-sex couples.)

            Roger Mann has verified that.

            (Speaking of Roger, I hope he’s all right–haven’t seen him here in some time. They’ve been having a fiercely hot summer in Australia.)

          • John30013

            I believe I saw a post from him this past weekend.

    • wineflask

      In this case it is the junior sister of Merkel’s CDU, the Bavarian, hypercatholic and conservative CSU.

      • billbear1961

        I remembered it had something to do with ultra-conservatives–reactionaries–in Bavaria. Her government would fall without their support?

        (Hello, WF! I hope you’re well! You’re in Italy, aren’t you??)

  • bambinoitaliano

    A country that pushes to accept as many refugees as any country could yet does not treat its own citizen as equal under the law. It’s fucking overdue!

  • Derrick Johns

    Merkel is the leader of the Free World. She may not have wanted that job, but she’s got it now. We have a senile old man in the American White House who couldn’t even find on a map where his grand-parents came from. Yep, Merkel’s the leader of the free world.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      The man’s always been an incurious, nasty imbecile.

      “Senile” gives his situation in life dignity he doesn’t deserve, and casts aspersion on the asparagus of aging.

      • Gerry Fisher

        THANK you! yes.

  • Johannes Stier

    I often feel that the majority of people here support it but not enough to make it a political problem for the conservatives. I met people who just believed that the civil unions we have were the same as marriage just with a different name. If the coalition would introduce same-sex marriage most people would probably just shrug. If they don’t it is probably not a big enough deal for many people to base their votes on.

    • Gerry Fisher

      This is reassuring.

      • Johannes Stier

        Sorry, I think I phrased the last sentence wrong. What I meant was that moste people, even if they support same sex marriage, would (and will) still vote for the conservatives because whether a party opposes or supports same sex marriage is nothing most people will base their vote on. They support it. They just don’t care enough to let it become an important issue.

  • ChrisMorley

    Warning from last election, we’ve been here before.

    The SDP promised marriage equality before the last election, but blocked it when in coalition government with Merkel’s Christian Democrats.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recognition_of_same-sex_unions_in_Germany#Same-sex_marriage
    ‘On 16 December 2015, the governing parties (CDU/CSU and SPD) blocked the consideration of a same-sex marriage bill in the Legal Affairs Committee proposed by the Greens.[33]

    • BobSF_94117

      We’ve never been where we are now.

      Merkel would be wise to change her position, embrace the modern, Western, secular value of equal marriage and cement her position.

      • ChrisMorley

        True, BUT Angela Merkel has been consistent for years in saying marriage is between one man and one woman, and she has shown zilch sign of changing her opposition to marriage equality, no matter how wise that would be.
        Her supporters are Conservative Christians.

        • BobSF_94117

          There are certainly conservative Christians among her supporters, but there must be others as hers is one of the largest parties. She need not pander anymore.

          • William

            The CSU side of her coalition is sour Bavarian Catholics. Without their support, her party would be out of power.

  • billbear1961
  • Gerry Fisher

    Is it a possibility that German nationalists can use marriage equality to scare older people onto their side? That “fear of change” thing? I want Germany to beat back this nationalist trend.

  • Mike

    Seeing Germany take the moral lead in the world always reminds me of the silence from a certain American demographic. I haven’t heard a peep from the “greatest generation’s” Gramps, not a single complaint that the country he fought for went from being the world’s moral authority to being warmongers and torturers to being fascists and would-be nazis in under twenty years. All it took was an act of terrorism to blow the whole thing up.

  • Robert Conner

    Well that would upset some Nazis!

  • JT

    Merkel, get off your butt, girl, and do it!

  • JCF

    It’s absolutely verrückt that the Germans don’t already have marriage equality!