Morning Joe Panel Is Aghast At Trump’s Presser: The President Has Lost His Grip On Reality [VIDEO]

Raw Story reports:

MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski were stunned — and terrified — by what they saw Thursday during President Donald Trump’s bizarre and vapid news conference. “That would have been a really funny hour or so of television if he weren’t president of the United States,” Scarborough said. “It was one of the most chaotic, rambling press conferences anybody has ever seen.”

Scarborough said the president seemed “addicted to chaos,” but he marveled at Trump’s most ardent supporters — who liked what they saw during the 77-minute spectacle. “They were laughing, and they weren’t laughing at Donald Trump — they were laughing at the media,” Scarborough said. Mike Barnicle, the veteran journalist and MSNBC contributor, said “the No. 1 story is the stability of the president of the United States.”

“The first 35 minutes of that press conference was watching a president of the United States who has lost a grip on reality,” Barnicle said. “It was as if he performed for himself because he needed to perform like that because he needed to convince himself he was president.”

  • Todd20036

    Um, no. No it wasn’t. Just because you pretended not to hear how Trump acted during the campaign doesn’t mean that it didn’t happen.

    We KNEW Trump was unqualified to be president. Not just that we disagreed with the GOP, but we knew that Trump was a complete political neophyte who had serious mental issues.

    But you didn’t listen, and you didn’t report, and when you did, you equated his ramblings with Clinton’s email “scandal” and BENGHAZZZIII!!!!!!111!!!!!1112

    So people didn’t take our warnings seriously. And NOW you’re surprised?


    Dan Rather and his class of journalists are long gone, and you are proof of that.
    Cry me a river. And help us try to get the motherfucker impeached, ok?

    • Skokieguy [Larry]

      (I kinda said the same as you, but you said it first and better). I also find it interesting that some media outlets are finally turning down KellyAnne, but they are more than happy to have Jeffrey Lord and others that are similar brain-dead parrots.

      If a spox has spouted easily disproved falsehoods over and over, they should be blacklisted as not credible. Sadly, that doesn’t leave too many people left to interview.

      • “Sadly, that doesn’t leave too many people left to interview.”

        You say that like it’s a bad thing…

        • Skokieguy [Larry]

          In a reasonable world, there are two sides and they present different solutions to common problems. Those solutions are debated in the public eye on their merits.

          I have no problem with a party holding different view, but a sane, fact-based and coherent opposition. For example, not ignoring the science that climate change is real, but debating the best way to deal with it.

          • I understand completely, dear – I’m merely pointing out that it would be better for everyone’s health, and would dramatically reduce the methane emissions problem, if Conway and her ilk were banned from EVER speaking in public – let alone in front of a microphone.

          • Skokieguy [Larry]

            LOL. Conway could be part of solyent green, but I think her totality would end up making the equivalent of half of a rancid Triscuit.

          • Todd20036

            That was a big failure on the media’s part, the idea that there were 2 views.

            Wanting the death of minority Americans, wanting the banishment of legal residents, wanting the rollback of regulations solely because “government intrusion is bad”, but allowing the government to demand who we can marry, who must have children, who we can fuck, and who we can adopt is acceptable.

            Basically, one side isn’t hypocritical, and the other side is. Yet the media equated the two during the campaign.

            So here we are.

          • popebuck1

            “Look, we’re having a perfectly reasonable discussion. You want to paint the living room yellow, and I want to pour gasoline all over the walls and set it on fire. Can’t we meet in the middle somewhere?”

          • -M-

            Only the Republicans’ idea of compromise is settling on a position even more right wing than their starting point.

            Ideological hyperinflation.

          • Acronym Jim

            The problem with the two sides argument these days is that it has devolved into a false equivalency. In a reasonable world the debate would be between two reasonable sides and that no longer exists in Congress.

          • Skokieguy [Larry]

            And is hasn’t for a long time.

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        • Gerry Fisher

          Yeah, they might have to resort to hard news and discussions based on science/evidence instead of campaigning, marketing.

          • What? And act like a responsible journalist?? Fie!, perish the thought! Those went extinct many moons ago.

      • Stephen Elliot Phillips

        Donalds press conferences should not be attended by legitimate media peeps.
        The legitimate media should avoid promoting the spin and rantings of trump and his minions and simply tell the facts and the true narrative.
        Trumputins hardcore supporters dont watch cnn or msnbc and everyone knows they dont read newspapers or time mag.
        The media has to cease attempting to reach a citizen that will never consume their product. Its fruitless and irrelevant

    • GayOldLady

      Dan Rather is still around and is still appearing on TV and writing about the trump insanity. But you’re correct, “his class of journalists are long gone”.

      • Todd20036

        I know. He’s still around, but he isn’t on ABC interviewing people and calling them out.

        • ericpayne

          You mean CBS, don’t you?

      • Acronym Jim

        Could you imagine Trump calling Walter Cronkite a hater who spouts fake news?

        • GayOldLady

          I miss our beloved Walter Cronkite. I remember when Walter began reporting on the death toll of the Vietnam War and the injuries of our young troops, that was the beginning of the end for the Vietnam war. Before Walter that angle of Vietnam was swept under the rug.

          • I was very young, but I remember him choking on tears one night while reporting on this. It was my first inkling that something was very wrong, and then my beloved goofball uncle came home after his 2nd deployment (he was a SEAL) and had become a very angry, violent drunkard. Then I knew… Grampa was right again – we haven’t fought an honorable war since 1945.

    • Librarykid

      You are so right that the media in this country was biased against Clinton and never bothered to critically examine Trump, just going along with his insanity during the campaign and now it’s clutch the pearls time.

      • Rocco


      • Gerry Fisher

        He was *fun*! (Some people are deciding that it’s not fun anymore. But…well…he’s our president, now.)

        • Kenster999

          And he provided ratings! Cable news network heads admitted that they knew he was probably bad for the country, but they loved the money they were making off of him.

      • Kenster999

        Yes to all that. While reporters often have a liberal bias (much like reality!), the corporate ownership is much more conservative, which ends up affecting their coverage decisions. Those decisions are more behind the scenes, so the public really only sees the reporters, which leads to the idea that the media is entirely biased towards liberals. When I try to point out the conservative side that prevented serious investigation during the lead-up to the Iraq War (for example), I just get looks like I’m completely off my rocker for suggesting that the media is too conservative sometimes.

    • Gerry Fisher

      >Just because you pretended not to hear how Trump acted during the campaign doesn’t mean that it didn’t happen.

      This x 1000

      >And help us try to get the motherfucker impeached, ok?

      Yes, make yourselves useful.

    • Acronym Jim

      Sweet Lurline, these are the same people who were claiming that Trump was “pivoting to appear more presidential” just because he refrained from fucking tweeting for a day or two.

    • Kenster999

      Man, I always love your posts! How can we get them out of our little comfortable homo bubble and into the wider public?

    • Tom

      Yes and now Moning Joe is getting even bigger ratings. They are now charging more for advertising. tRump is right. He’s getting rating.
      So how about we call our Senators and Congress and tell them how we feel.
      I just did. Let’s not just give clicks to these guys without registering our disgust to our representatives..

  • Galvestonian

    Well, hell … we all knew he was insane from the get-go…and he still got elected

    • Ross

      Did Trumpy get elected?

      Nothing will ever convince me that Trumpy won the Electoral vote.




      • Chucktech

        Probably because an investigation will reveal that paperless voting machines were hacked by Russia.

        • cleos_mom

          But we have to go on using them, regardless. Because “progress.”

          • bzrd

            and wasn’t there an EO or something last week stating they will no longer be checked out for “flaws?”

  • Nax

    Is Joe Scarborough saying this and still regularly talking with and advising Trump?

    • Anastasia Beaverhousen

      Just giving him a hand job.

      • Joe in PA

        Hand job? More like a two-finger rub.

  • Dramphooey

    The thing at which we should be aghast is the large number of people on the right who thought Trump was terrific at the press conference. A large segment of the population has either lost its grip on reality or simply lies at the drop of a hat.

    • Todd20036

      The right doesn’t care. They don’t care about the country. They don’t even care about their own welfare.

      All they do care about is white privilege and a president willing to elevate white, Christian, straight men to a higher level than other Americans.

      Basically, they are a bunch of Nazis who want to keep another Nazi in the White House even if that Nazi is mentally unhinged.

      • Thorn Spike

        The first–and only–rule of Nazism: leader must be unhinged.

      • Here’s how post modern conservatives think: anything liberals hate is good. Ann Coulter and more recently Milo Yannadoofus have made careers exploiting that. All you have to do is berate liberals, facts be damned, and they will cheer. Enter Trump. The GOP and the right wing media created this mess. Trump is just the carnival barker who showed up at the right time to exploit the rubes. People exclaiming “this isn’t the Republican Party I know” are completely out of touch. That IS the GOP. They intentionally ran everyone else off. This is what they are left with. They did it to themselves and they should have their noses rubbed in their own shit.

        • -M-

          ^^^ This.

        • cleos_mom

          And the inevitable “the Republican Party left ME” recitations suggest a relationship where partner A would have to run over partner B with a large truck before said p.B. would acknowledge that yes, there is a problem. Those nostalgic for ‘the Republican party I know’ generally have no problem with who the GOP slaps down as long as it isn’t them.

        • Kenster999


          But I’m trying to figure out why this is the case. I think most people are good-hearted, well-intentioned, and want the best for America and their fellow citizens. Most people are reasonable and kind in person. So then why do they believe so many lies, and why are they so eager to stick it to the liberals and elites?

          I’m wondering, do we have any (unintentional) culpability in this? Have we been arrogant? I’ve heard a lot of folks on the right say that they’re tired of the elites telling them how they’re supposed to think, what they’re supposed to believe (“[transgender] men in girls’ bathrooms?!”), and that if they disagree then they’ll be assumed to be racists (or homophobes, etc).

          I am definitely *not* saying that this is “all our fault.” I’m just trying to understand any areas where we may be rubbing people the wrong way or working against our interests. It feels like it’s more of an attitude thing. So many Trump voters aren’t simply having reasonable disagreements with us on policy matters; they *hate* us.

          • Here’s something I learned from my many years of acting training. (I’m still not very good but I’ve worked with a lot of good people. LOL) Hardly anyone, maybe no one, thinks they are bad. Everyone believes that their own actions are rational and justified. If they didn’t, they wouldn’t do them. People often rationalize stealing by claiming that stores overcharge anyway. Bullies blame the victim for being whatever it was that made them mad at them.

            So, yes, these people are bigots and sexists and homophobes and all the rest but they have convinced themselves that they are not. They have convinced themselves that black people are now the entitled class and that white people don’t have a fair shot. In some cases the basis for that is that their own jobs went away and they see Democrats trying to do things for minority groups and not for them. Nevermind that Democrats TRIED to do things for them back in the 70s and 80s when something could have been done and got voted out of office by these very same people. They feel they are the victims and honestly almost everyone in our culture feels victimized by someone or something. DeVos just today was whining about how mean everyone is to her. That how far up the ladder this goes.

            What do we do? Other than join them in their racist, sexism and homophobia, I’m not sure what we can do at this point. They will not be happy until they live in a theocracy and can enforce their hypocrisy on the rest of us. They won’t be happy until gay people go back into the closet and women are happy to be passed over for promotions if there’s a man applying. That’s not going to happen. Their demands are unreasonable. Frankly I’d trade being able to get a wedding cake from the handful of bakers bigoted enough to turn us away in exchange for them accepting full lbgt equality but they aren’t about to make that deal so fuck ’em.

            What we actually need to do is stop clustering in so few geographical areas. If about 100,000 liberals would move from LA, SF and NYC to Philly, Columbus, Ann Arbor and Madison, we’d have the blue midwestern firewall that we thought we had going into the election. We have a distribution problem and that’s just getting worse and people understandably flee the bigoted backwoods for the big cities. But it’s killing us in Congressional elections.

          • Dom Saunders

            Why include Philly in that list as a place liberals should GO to? I find that funny, because the day Trump was elected, the newspapers here were almost universally shading the shit out of the man. Philly is hella liberal already, and was one of the few places that went blue in the state of PA besides Pittsburgh. You probably mean to include the REST of PA, because Philly has always been rather liberal.

          • For the House, yes. But we need more liberals in PA overall. Democrats loss of PA in 2016 was major. That’s a lot of electoral votes we couldn’t afford to lose. The other cities I mentioned are also liberal. Maybe gays should take over some smaller towns and gentrify them. Something on the commuter line but not so expensive. Can any young gays people afford Chelsea or West Hollywood any more? Extending into the purple would be good. Look what happened when the Boston suburbs pushed into New Hampshire turning it blue!

          • Dom Saunders

            Can any young gays people afford Chelsea or West Hollywood any more?


            Yeah, it’s more a matter of if Millenials overall could afford any type of housing, let alone one in some expensive place like West Hollywood, lol. And the answer to that would, for most of us, be a no.

          • I used to live in Chelsea. I got into a tiny (and I do mean tiny) apartment and the tail end of the 93-94 recession. Even then it was more than I could afford on what I was making. Things are a lot worse now.

            I’m going to continue with my proposal. there are a lot of almost abandoned small towns with decent infrastructure, abandoned storefronts etc within an hour or two of major cities. They are prime for gentrification. There are few to no urban areas in NYC left for people to move in and fix up. (And the ethics of displacing working class people and driving up rents was always sketchy.) Once the gays are there the artsy types will follow and then the yuppies. And beauty is that you could get in for next to nothing as right now those houses are cheap. I doubt this will work but it could.

      • Gerry Fisher

        “We are terrified that we can’t maintain our status using a democracy, so we need to ‘enforce’ our way of life with fascism.”

    • Michael R

      Almost none of them are speaking , and it’s hard to
      imagine anything being any worse than it is.

    • Daveed_WOW

      They love him because it is what they see in the mirror: rude, abusive, stupid,unstable,mean, selfish, and malevolent.

    • Walter Maerlyn

      I think it is the larger problem. That’s what made Trump possible.
      There is a very large number of combative, sickly cruel morons out there, and it is definitely a national security problem now. There is no quick fix to this larger problem. If congress somehow does remove Trump from office, I think it’s likely they will rampage in whatever way they can.

      • Chucktech

        Wow, think of all that rioting in the streets… in Waco. Or Peoria. Or Hooterville… Or Bug Tussle.

      • The only way to impeach Trump is to get Congress back in 2018. That means it won’t happen until 2019 at the earliest. Republicans are not standing up to him or his unqualified cabinet appointees because they don’t dare. The House is gerrymandered so that most of them have far more to fear from a primary challenger than a Democrat and the Senate may as well be with basically unpopulated areas like North Dakota having the same two representatives as California or New York. So unless there is a tidal wave in 2018 we are stuck with trump until January 2021 (if not longer). Democrats better get their shit together and that means grassroots efforts in every Congressional district in the country. No swooping in with celebrities at the last minute. We already know that backfires.

    • bzrd

      BLOTUS said he liked the uneducated and they are the ones who can’t understand a press conference where the so called president shows his mental illness for the whole world to see. Now we have devos to make sure they stay that way while we all subsidize private education for the wealthy.

      • Stephen Elliot Phillips

        Actually it will be private education for the religious. My partner is a headmaster of a reputable private school. Which he and his peers now call “independent schools” cause it sounds less snobby.
        Anyway, any independent school that is good will never take vouchers. Vouchers are for small and struggling private schools and are basically a money funnel for churches and white separatists.

        • Daveed_WOW

          Correct. The schools themselves don’t really need that money. The religious want to channel public money to religion to consolidate their power. Then they brainwash their own children into believing the world is flat and that the press is the enemy of America, etc. They’ve been working on this project since the Fall of Nixon.

      • Daveed_WOW

        For them, it’s like looking in the mirror. He’s a rube who just happened to be born lucky. He’s been losing the family fortune for 50 years.

    • Only because I unfriended and/or blocked such morons some time ago.

      • Daveed_WOW

        Isn’t life better without those damn people in your head?

    • Gerry Fisher

      I *am* concerned about that. 90% approval rating from his supporters. That river in Egypt has very, VERY strong currents. (In order for them to admit that Trump is unhinged, they will have to first admit that they were “wrong” and perhaps a bit unhinged themselves. That’s painful. People don’t want to entertain thoughts like that. Ego dystonic.)

      • Daveed_WOW

        They will never back off. They love the abuse and the chaos. It’s how they are wired. A substantial percentage of white Americans are bred from bad seed stock. Most of us are descendants of the unluckiest people in Europe. Not the Beautiful People.

    • Kenster999

      ^^^ THIS! This is exactly the problem. This is the reason that Trump won. Nothing has changed. If an election were to be held tomorrow, most Americans would still fall for the same lies. The right has done a fantastic job of making people feel that the mainstream media is all lies (or that both sides lie equally).

      • Daveed_WOW

        The best advertising gimmick of my lifetime. Fox et al has not sold their product as merely superior. They convinced people that all of the other products are poison.

    • Boreal

      This would be the response I would expect from a 1st grader.

      • marshlc

        Oh, c’mon, that’s hyperbole. A third grader at least.

      • Mentally he is a 1st grader…our leader

      • Chucktech

        A developmentally challenged 1st grader.

        • Those who have been assessed and determined to be developmentally challenged have shown themselves to be more compassionate and intelligent than Drumpf…

  • Marty

    God Help Us

  • BearEyes

    orchestrated chaos.
    pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

  • Skokieguy [Larry]

    I said a few days ago, now that his downfall seems like an unstoppable freight train, the media is falling over over themselves to see who can be more aghast and shocked Trump’s incoherence and seeming mental instability. This is the same media that enabled him, gave him billions in free publicity and allowed the Republican’s framing of Hillary to stand, preventing most Americans from having any idea of what she stood for, beyond Benghazi! & Emails!.

    • billbear1961


    • Chucktech

      …preventing most Americans from having any idea of what she stood for, beyond Benghazi! & Emails!

      Larry, what you’re saying drives home the point that I’ve been saying over and over. I’m an American. I watched all of the media coverage. I could see what the House and all that bullshit of Benghazi and e-mails was all about. I had not problem one deciphering just what Trump was. Or that he was demonstrably unfit for duty. We all did, and we did because we saw it all on display in… (wait for it…) the media.

      The reason we have Trump is because of hate and racism and bigotry and misogyny and stultifyingly stupidity of flyover America whose single vote equals 300 California votes. And, of course, add in Russia’s thumb on the scale, the FBI’s thumb on the scale, and voter suppression in all the usual states.

      So, sure, blame the media for a lot of stuff in covering the campaign the way you would have like to see, but don’t discount the true face of America that is on display for the world to see.

      • Skokieguy [Larry]

        Yes, he tapped into hate that was already there as the Republicans have done for decades (Alex, Southern Strategy for $100 please), but he did it more nakedly.

        However if the media didn’t normalize a candidate who’s opening declaration of candidacy began with the Mexican are rapists comment, his efforts to cash in on resentment and hatred wouldn’t have been so successful.

        • And that was his main appeal. Americans are a lot more racist and sexist than they care to admit, which is why they are so defensive about being called racist or sexist. Romney and McCain only talked about those issues in dog whistles. They didn’t dare spook the country club set they socialize with by saying such things out loud. When Trump supporters talk about how he’s not PC that’s what they mean. He actually says his hateful shit out loud. He talks like they do to each other. (I know they talk that way because I’m from Texas and hear it with my own two ears.)

          • Skokieguy [Larry]

            Yup, that’s why even if he had lost the election, I would never forgive him. He pour gasoline on the flames of hatred and those don’t go away quickly.

        • RoFaWh

          I’d call it “the disaffection that was already there”.

      • For me the big surprise is that 51% of white women voted for Trump. Women who have fought off gropey assholes like Trump since the moment they hit puberty actually voted for him. I didn’t see that coming. I guess I should stop overestimating the intelligence of the American people.

        • Dom Saunders

          I’m not surprised. Honestly, I have to laugh at a lot of white people. The ones who voted against Trump, only to cry about his winning were literally the ONLY ones genuinely surprised that racism was still a thing in 2016. Any other woman or PoC knew the score from day one, so not one of us was surprised by the result. We also knew that white women and intersectionality don’t mix: when having to choose between their gender and race, they will ALWAYS choose the latter. They’ve done it before, they’ll do it again and they’ll keep doing it until all white people collectively get their shit together. But you never will and the rest of us have to deal with that.

          • I don’t get the white people who claim to have black friends but can’t see the racism going on around them. If you had even a good acquaintance and spent any time out and about with a non-white friend you’d see several examples of racism. Unless it’s just inconvenient to notice. Confirmation bias is strong in our species. We see what fits our narratives and ignore what doesn’t. It’s something we all have to guard against. But anyone who claims there’s no racism in 2017 must live in an all white area because I see it all the time.

          • Dom Saunders

            It’s those types you have to watch out for. They’ll literally claim “I’m not racist, I have black friends” and within half a second, follow it with “Black Lives Matter is a terrorist group like the KKK.” It’s enough to give me whiplash. I’ve already had to check a few people last month, one of whom was a liberal, for defending that viewpoint.

          • Those “friends” are really just black/gay/whatever people they worked with or talked to once who knew better than call out their bullshit because it wasn’t worth having that fight at work/school/etc. Dan Savage posed this a couple of years ago. We should demand that anyone playing that card produce their “friend”. We should call their bluff.

    • They basically didn’t cover any other Republicans last year. It didn’t matter what speech the others gave or what policies they proposed. Trump acting like a tv star and they treated him like one. It’s the triumph of celebrity culture in a way. I blame part of it on the GOP pandering to know-nothingism but it’s also in large part due to a celebrity culture in which you can be famous for being famous without accomplishing much. Trump is not a good businessman. He never was. His money is mostly from self-promotion and his reality show, not from business deals. If Kennedy was tailor-made for the television era, then Trump is tailor made for the vapid reality-show era.

      • Skokieguy [Larry]

        Kardashification of politics. How many candidates were essentially invisible during the primary?

        • And how many were only in the news when they talked about Trump. I remember a day when Marco Rubio made a pretty good speech promoting a jobs program that a lot of Democrats might have supported (depending on the details of course, but it sounded promising). But in that speech he made a joke about Trump having small hands and that’s all that got covered, as if that were a legitimate news story.

          • Skokieguy [Larry]

            The media openly said that the Trump tsunami was fabulous for ratings. The horse race is more important to them than the future of our country.

          • It’s been like that for a long time. The media loves polling and other bullshit. Discussions of issues are few and far between. I don’t think most people on tv news, especially local and cable are bright enough to ask intelligent questions anyway. They don’t have the depth to host the discussions which is why they don’t do them. They blame ratings, but they could certainly get a little in here and there if they were concerned about being actual news people. But they aren’t. They are overpaid celebrities and as vain and shallow as any reality star. Trump was right up their alley.

    • Acronym Jim

      Speaking of false equivalencies, I haven’t seen any comments from “this user is blocked” in quite a while. Did he finally get banned?

      • Skokieguy [Larry]

        We can only hope. Or perhaps so many people blocked him, he lost the thrill of trolling.

    • Gerry Fisher

      God forbid that they could have put forth the idea last year that we all might need to put our Big Girl and Big Boy pants on to do something hard. You know, like vote for someone you don’t really like, with whom you don’t want to “have a beer,” because she’d get the job done well. Instead, they got wrapped up in entertainment and “fun.” (If you’re the bully and not the bullied, then it’s a HECK of a lot of fun. For a while.)

      • Skokieguy [Larry]

        Everyone kept talking about likability and relatability. No one talked about competency.

        And frankly, how anyone could find Trump likeable and relatability is beyond me.

  • Give the faux concern a rest, Joe. You spent the entire campaign normalizing this psychotic, sociopathic, pathological liar and never ONCE called him out for his blatant lies. Don’t think I’ll give you a pass for your fake concern and outrage now. You helped make this mess, bitch – it’s all yours now.

    • Daveed_WOW

      Hi think we have a troll. Go get Mean Mommie, y’all.

      • Todd20036

        Mommie isn’t calling out JMG, she’s calling out Joe Scarborough.
        She’s no troll.

      • You’re new here, Child O’ Mine. I’ve been on hiatus for a while, but have been here sharpening my claws for many a year.

        • Boreal

          He was giving me a hard time the other day for criticizing Andrew Sullivan.

          • Todd20036

            Sully the hypocrite. That flake should dry up and blow away

          • Boreal

            Exactly, a fucking grifter, willing to fellate anyone who is popular at the moment.

          • I’ve always thought of Sully as a master of autofelatio – no one could possibly give blowjobs to so many undeserving clods without lots and lots of practice.

          • Todd20036

            Wish I could do that.

            The thing I remember most about Sully was him decrying bareback porn, all the while having profiles that ask for bareback sex.

          • Uncle Mark

            Actually, I remember his taking it beyond just talking about BB porn and talking about the gay community being irresponsible in their behavior regarding BB behavior. It must be very complicated & conflicted in his head, being a gay, Catholic Republican…who also gets married (sans the blessings of his church or party.)

          • Stephen Elliot Phillips

            Michael lucas is the same. He railed against BB porn for years and now all his flicks are BB.

          • Isn’t that sad though. He’s smart and writes well. He could have been a major voice but instead he shifts about with the wind. Of course one can’t expect too much from a gay Catholic apologist. That sort of mental twisting is bound to drive one mad.

          • “He’s smart and writes well”… yeah, but so was Goebbels. Look what that got us…

          • Steverino

            And take his milky loads with him

          • Ye gods…

          • Boreal
          • Daveed_WOW

            Thanks for showing us who you are.

          • Boreal

            Funny, you seem to be the only one with a problem. I see you also deleted your comment.

          • Daveed_WOW

            Never give up. Never surrender. Bitterness at the tiniest provocation really sets you off. Get help.

          • Boreal

            Get bent, troll.

    • ColdCountry

      I know a lot of these guy are late to the party, but they’re here now, and will hopefully be of some use in undoing what they helped create.

  • Michael R

    ” The dishonest media is going to make me push the button “

    • Todd20036


      Somehow, I’m guessing a lot of abused people can relate to that.

      • cleos_mom

        “That cream THAT YOU BOUGHT went sour.” That’s familiar too.

    • Daveed_WOW

      It’s hard to know, but I think he was referring to that Russian spyship that is currently parked in US waters. Right off the coast. Trump has done nothing about this.

      • Michael R

        He has to start a war to have any chance of being re-elected ,
        so they need to start setting that up ASAP .

  • Gaymurcan

    #National #Institutes of #Mental #Health, stat!!


    Seeing Trump in the White House is like watching your home being burglarized on a surveillance camera. Sound the alarm. Release the hounds.

    • Tomcat

      And then nothing is done to protect your house.

    • Chucktech

      And the police say “Oh, just chill. It’s just a little burgling going on, that’s all…”

  • Boreal

    How many times did Joe and Mika fellate trump during the campaign?

    • They never stopped. It was just one long, lousy blowjob – and Joe never once gagged.

    • billbear1961

      Only ONCE do I remember them seriously questioning his fitness, when he was being cavalier about nuclear weapons.

      Not long after that, it was like it NEVER happened, and they never stopped WORSHIPING the sick bastard.

    • popebuck1

      He was calling Scarborough and getting strategy advice, FFS.

    • Chucktech

      But by the same token, how many times did we say “Oh, JESUS, look at how Joe and Mika fellate Trump? Anyone who wasn’t in a blind raging unhinged illogical rage against Hillary could see that.

      This entire THIS IS ALL THE MEDIA’S FAULT meme is bullshit.

      • Boreal

        but her emails!

      • Yes, but it’s relevant now that the very people who covered him nonstop a year ago are appalled at his actions as president. They really do need to own their responsibility in this, but they won’t. Just like they’ve never owned their responsibility in enabling the WMD lies that led up to the Iraq war.

        • Gerry Fisher

          mmm-hmmm! Or their homophobia in how they covered the AIDS crisis from ’81 until…Magic Johnson/Pedro Zamora.

      • Gerry Fisher

        I read a blog posting that made a strong argument that SCPOTUS’ election was a “perfect storm” of things. That’s why we can argue “it was the media’s fault” and “racist reaction to Obama” and “sexism!!!” and “voter supression” and “Russia!” and “the voters wanted a change candidate, not a technocrat” and more…and it all sounds true.

  • Stogiebear

    When he is removed from office (by whatever means that is accomplished) I will breathe a sigh of relief and then take a step back immediately in preparation for the chaos that is to come. This mess is probably how the right wing forces a constitutional convention and fucks over the nation for generations.

    PS: My bet for our Reichstag Fire is the bombing of the Supreme Court while they are in the building.

    • billbear1961

      Nothing obliges us to accept fascism in ANY circumstances.

      Nothing can justify or legitimize it–NOTHING.

    • Ross

      The New & Improved 2017 version of the Reichstag Fire will be far, far worse than the original.

      The ONLY way for Trumpy/Bannon/Putin to retain power is to orchestrate something VERY bad on American soil. Somethings which will dwarf 9/11. Something which will stun the populace into compliance.

      • billbear1961

        THIS message should be circulating WIDELY so people can brace themselves to resist a grab for total power.

        • Ross


          I am totally expecting something REALLY bad.

          Trumpy won’t be behind it. It will be Bannon/Putin. Trumpy will be the puppet.

          My bigger fear however is how the public and the media will all fall for it. WE ARE UNDER ATTACK! If so, we are fucked.

          • billbear1961

            There are 3 things we should be insisting on NOW: congressional investigations–as well as those by the IC–into the Russian links, access to his TAX RETURNS (Congress should vote AGAIN and THIS time DEMAND them), and the immediate dismissal of BANNON and MILLER.

          • RoFaWh

            “…the immediate dismissal incarceration of BANNON and MILLER.”

      • Uncle Mark

        If we’ve learned anything…it’s that this regime couldn’t plan its way out of a paper bag. If anything; it will be a terrorist threat that is intentionally ignored. The question is ‘Will the US Intelligence Services sit quietly, and let this regime plead ignorance?’ My guess is that they won’t…especially since Lord Cheeto’s declared war on them. Furthermore, there would be an investigation to determine, who dropped the ball, and the Intelligence Services will not happily take the fall for it.

  • Texndoc

    I was flipping between Moaning Joe and Fox-n-freyunds and it was as expected. Oh Schmoe, he’s already on round two of remembering when Newt Gingrich was “just like that” and how Super-Hero Congressman Joe handled HIM!! Oh why can’t the world just be made great with Joe in charge.

    • Tomcat

      Because Joe (Scarborough) is fickle and will go running back to protecting Trump in no time at all.

      He puts his pants on the REICH way.

      • Texndoc

        Trump just has to do what Schmoe SAYS. If he was offered any position in this clusterfark all you would see at the MSNBC morning desk is a whisk of smoke as he raced out the room to DC.

  • sadoldguy

    Sheppard Smith was much more convincing (Thursday) in the role of Will McAvoy* than Joe Scarborough is in his daily performance.

    *HBO Newsroom.

  • Bluto

    I certainly disliked McCain & Romney immensely but if elected I believe they would of been competent. cheetotard on the other hand, without hyperbole, is unfit & insane.

    • lymis

      I agree. I felt that either one of them would have competently run the government – in directions I disapproved of. And honestly, even more, I felt that taken in isolation, neither of them were particularly bad, but that they came with the entire Republican machine right along with them, and that would be a disaster, because there’d be no check or compromise.

    • grindstone

      Agreed. My son even asked me if I was always this agitated when a republican was in office. I said no, I could have lived with a McCain or a Romney or anyone else who understood the basic rules of government and goddamned civility. I wouldn’t have liked the laws they passed and the backs they scratched along the way, but it would have been within a framework we could work with. What we have now is simply beyond the pale.

      • I’ll admit I was a bit agitated when W was president, but nowhere near this level.

        • Gerry Fisher

          The main thing that agitated me during W’s presidency was the public’s inability to see the deception behind the Iraq war. This feels like that deception and public denial on *steroids*.

          • And a “news” media willing to play along out of fear of asking unpopular questions. I was in Europe for part of that time and the disparity between what was being published in newspapers between the US and the UK and Europe was shocking. Sometimes even the difference between US and European versions of the same newspaper or magazine!

          • bzrd

            That’s when I lost faith in the New York Times, yellow cake on the front page, the real story on page 17 or 18 after a long hunt.

          • Two words: Judith Miller

            The W administration used Miller to get stories in the NY Times that were flat out lies and then use those stories to show that even the liberal NY Times knew there were WMDs. Everyone was in on this sham and we should have tried the lot of them for treason.

            Note: Please no one call her Judy. Judy Miller was a character Gilda Radner played on SNL in the late 70s. Judy was the girl in the Brownie costume dancing around her bedroom pretending she had her own tv show. Of all the wonderful bits Gilda did on SNL that is my favorite. I think it was the real Gilda and it was funny but also sweet and charming. Like she was.

        • grindstone

          I concur — I was disgusted with the Cheney-Bush presidency, but not in the “they’re going to destroy the very bedrock of our democracy” realm.

    • Chucktech

      As I’ve said so many times, Moron Bush is taking on a lovely patina.

    • At the very least they’d have been more competent than this.

      • -M-

        They wouldn’t have been trying to burn everything down.

  • billbear1961
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  • Rex

    They should have shouted “Breaking News!”
    Most of us have questioned Trump’s mental health for months, but the media is just now saying it.
    Film at 11 – of Trump in 2016.

  • Gustav2

    “I’m not ranting and raving!”

    —George III

    • RoFaWh

      “And look at my pretty blue pee!”

  • Ross
  • greenmanTN

    Nothing to see here. Move along, move along!

  • Tomcat

    The presser was a diversion from Flynn being cleared by FBI.
    And it works, we are talking about the elephant in the room instead of the traitor in the room.

    • Ross

      A most excellent point.

    • billbear1961

      Comey is also a TRAITOR.

  • JT

    Morning Joe Panel Is Aghast At Trump’s Presser: The President Has Lost His Grip On Reality

    He never had one.

    • Cosmo Tupper

      Really. He calls “Celebrity Apprentice” a reality show. All those “reality” shows are not real. People don’t do the stuff in these MADE FOR TV dramas that they do in real life. They do it only in “orchestrated” life.

      • RoFaWh

        Like Supernanny, whose shows are at least in part scripted.

  • greenmanTN

    The President of the US is literally insane, disconnected from reality.

    I never thought anyone could make George W Bush look good.

  • The Sentinel

    Joe and Mika have been sucking Trump’s withered dick for MONTHS. This is too precious.

  • Richard Rush

    The real problem is not that Trump lost never had a grip on reality, it’s that the people who voted for him lost or never had a grip on reality.

  • Clive Johnson

    Meanwhile on breitbart, and utterly without surprise, the Trumpanzees are pant hooting and pounding the ground in excitement over Trump’s “epic” press conference. No matter what this semi-literate orange man does, they love him, and they’ll ride his sinking ship down to the bottom of the ocean.

    • Chucktech

      Thus are the Deplorables.

  • sword

    “Has lost his grip”???? Please tell when was the last time he had ‘his grip’?

    • Clive Johnson

      Exactly! It’s the epitome of idiocy to think he ever had a grip in the first place. That this wasn’t PAINFULLY obvious to everyone is a frightening statement about the intelligence of the public.

      • bzrd

        His father sent him to military school so he could get a grip.

        • RoFaWh

          Someone should track down Trump’s classmates and bribe them to tell all.

          It’s unlikely they had to sign non-disclosure agreements.

  • Rocco

    You don’t get to be aghast, Morning Blow sychophants, you helped elect this buffoon. I just want to be around when you get your comeuppance. Smh.

  • Raising_Rlyeh
  • Rick

    Wait, this guy’s last name is ‘Barnicle?’ For real?

  • bkmn

    And this surprises them why?

  • RepublicansRNotConservative

    This was classic Trump. Nothing new, just him soaking up the spotlight, bragging, and putting others down. I don’t think Trump is any different today than he was on the Access Hollywood bus.

    What scares me, literally, is the people that support him. If I accept NPD Trump for what he is, I cannot get why anyone supports this guy. WTF!? More than 1/3 of American citizens might as well be friggin’ fungi I feel so utterly disconnected to them. Are they morons, or am I the moron because I don’t get it?

    • -M-

      I’m aghast at the people who cheer for anything that upsets “the liberals”.

      Bad enough their morals are so perverted that that’s what they value, but it’s to the point now that they value lashing out over their lives and their children’s lives.

      • RoFaWh

        I saw a posting a couple of months ago on the Bellingham Craigslist rants’n’raves discussion forum where the poster included the phrase “close the universities”.

        Make no mistake; the trumpers include a lot of overt anti-intellectuals who care not a whit about all the great things science has brought us, from magenta (the dye) to paved streets.

    • RoFaWh

      After going a-walmarting yesterday, I collapsed on a bench outside the entrance for a few moments. A nice old lady sat down by me and we ended up having a small pro-anti-Trump discussion.

      She was very silent when I pointed out that he’s a known pedophile, among many other negatives.

      We were extremely civil, and agreed that civility is essential in politics. My hope is that I planted a few seeds of doubt.

      • RepublicansRNotConservative

        I hope you succeeded, but I’m sorry to say, I think most ardent Trump supporters are now going to be his apologists and defenders. He’s given them a choice of scapegoats (immigrants, muslims, Jews, African Americans, etc) for their “misery” and his reward is unflappable support. He’s going to ride it as long as he can, and they’ll support him, at least until their situation worsens, and then for a while afterward.

  • Fuck Morning Joe. This time last year they were fawning all over Trump. Now they are troubled by him? They helped create this mess. Fuck them for acting morally superior now that it’s blowing up. Fuck them.

    • RepublicansRNotConservative

      I have no expertise about this show, but I feel that way about anyone that ignored Trump’s obvious incompetence in favor of Republican allegiance. I would feel the same about an incompetent Democrat too. The job of POTUS is just too important for us to place someone incompetent in office.

  • -M-

    Maybe they shouldn’t have ignored the obvious for so long.

  • Ninja0980

    You helped lay the groundwork for this Joe, can’t act outraged now or let others off the hook for this.

  • Gerry Fisher

    Do you think the reason why it’s taking so long for people to come to grips with the fact that our president is severely damaged and emotionally impaired is because they just didn’t think it could ever happen here? Which led to some magical thinking about how he’d put aside “all of this” and be a reasonable, effective president?!

    • RepublicansRNotConservative

      He’s mentally ill, you can’t just put that aside. NPD is essentially untreatable mental condition.

      • Gerry Fisher

        🙂 You just said verbatim what I said on another thread. I used to work as a licensed clinical social worker.

        My statement is not about Trump. It’s about why it’s taking so long for people to see the train wreck that’s been unfolding before their eyes for almost two years now. For the longest time, they saw what they wanted to see. They seem genuinely surprised right now at how unhinged he is. (One of the most important questions we were taught to ask ourselves during clinical supervision when analyzing human behavior is “why now?” Why are people just waking up to SCPOTUS condition *now* as opposed to six months ago?)

        • RepublicansRNotConservative

          Why now? Multiple reasons, here’s some:
          1) Partisanship – Republicans put aside all of Trumps weaknesses so they could seize 100% control. Thats a big one;
          2) Many folks find Trump a role model. They want to be that ruthless, demanding, and rich and they get energized by blaming someone else for their own failures, real or perceived.
          3) Years of Democratic demonization by the RW Media trying to sell commercials.
          4) Denial – People really didn’t believe campaign Trump was the real thing, they thought it was some kind of act.
          5) Considering all of the political mayhem in the West (not just here), I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if there were meddling from our adversaries, most importantly, Russia/Putin. I wouldn’t even be surprised if Putin is at least supportive of the WH leaks. After all, a weak POTUS is better for him, and our adversaries.
          6) I’m sure there are many more so please add.

        • I think the news media thought they could exploit Trump for ratings but that he’d never win. And then they could exploit cranky Trump criticizing Clinton for four years for even more ratings. They played with fire and now we’re all getting burned.

          • sandollar_man

            Yup. Their selfishness got in the way of protecting their own children’s future from a deranged conman.
            They should just admit that they are a bizarre cross between sycophants and “users” themselves.
            But this time their own children will suffer as the environment gets destroyed, the reputation of this country drops into the toilet, and crisis management gets a dangerously “insane” inverted reality treatment.

    • cleos_mom

      The people who still want this situation normalized (“the election is over now; you need to move on”) are still in denial, and passing the buck to boot.

  • cleos_mom

    Like the proverbial cuckolded spouse, Joe and Mika were the last to find out.

  • FAEN

    He can’t have lost something he never had to begin with.

  • Marc

    So first we learn that Kelly Anne lies and she cant be a credible guest. And now we learn Trump is manic and he is unfit to serve. Isnt this like buying a smoke alarm after the house burned down?

  • Robert Conner

    “Lost” you say? If my understanding is correct, in order to “lose” it you first must “have” it. Has it really not occurred to anyone that he’s congenitally insane?

  • Robert Conner

    Ronald Reagan was in the grip of senile dementia most of his last four years in office and it didn’t seem to bother anyone.

    • kareemachan

      Honestly, I am serious about this: the guy is sundowning. At high noon.

    • RoFaWh

      In part because Reagan had surrounded himself with people who had at least an inkling about the structure and function of the US government. His handlers knew what they were doing.

      Not so with Trump. In fact, exactly the opposite.

      • Gianni

        Trump’s people actually swear by his lunatic speeches and antics.

  • Lars Littlefield

    “The President Has Lost His Grip On Reality”

  • RRebel

    Where were these “enlightened” and “aghast” journalists six months ago when the rest of us saw the so-called president for what he really was and what he stood for; when lies and obfuscation and psychosis were so blatant you’d have to have your head buried in the sand not to see it? The media is a bit late on the bandwagon, and that tardiness helped create a monster.

    • kareemachan

      Look, dismiss them as you like, but they are coming around NOW. Give them a break.

      PS – I just got my ITMFA buttons yesterday. Booyah.

      • Barry William Teske

        “coming around NOW”

        So recognizing your Nation’s future leadership might need closer examination before people start unjustifiably getting killed.

        Did you say dismiss?

        I’ve got to agree with RRebel here.
        If your gonna play the alt-card thing just remember…it doesn’t say what it means.

        Edit: That is the basis for most politics in my opinion. The alt idea isn’t totally without merit. Just abused. Again.

    • Gianni

      That is an on-point question. His Majesty hasn’t changed a bit since he started campaigning and the world got to see and hear what he’s like and how he operates. He impressed me as a low-life, whackjob from the beginning. His non-stop name-calling and antics quickly lost their humor and we saw what we see now.

  • There’s no way around it. Yesterday the world saw a president of the United States with clear mental health issues.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    FOX, Morning Joe and many other conservative media are jumping…

  • JCF

    Almost *2* years too late, “Morning Joe”. Two years of BLOWING Drumpf, and NOW this???

  • bandanajack

    reap what you sow, bitches…