WASHINGTON: State Supreme Court Rules Unanimously Against Anti-Gay Florist Barronelle Stutzman

The Associated Press reports:

The Washington state Supreme Court has ruled that a florist who refused to provide services for a same-sex wedding broke anti-discrimination laws. The nine justices posted their unanimous ruling on Thursday. Barronelle Stutzman, a florist in Richland, Washington, had been fined by a lower court for denying service to a gay couple in 2013.

Stutzman had previously sold the couple flowers and knew they were gay but told them she couldn’t provide flowers for their wedding because same-sex marriage was incompatible with her Christian beliefs. Washington Attorney General Bob Ferguson and the couple sued her, saying she broke state anti-discrimination and consumer protection laws, and the lower court agreed.

Stand by for an avalanche of sadz!

See the full ruling here

  • MBear

    poor little christian snowflake

  • lymis

    Good.

  • Rex

    We’re going to take over the world!
    (At least that’s what they seem to think we want.)

  • Todd20036

    And all SCOTUS will do is knock it back down. You don’t get to use your religion as an excuse to break laws.

    Religious freedom isn’t religious freedom if it requires a victim

    • Scott MB

      The issue is theses florist, bakers, printers, etc. want to be martyrs. If they would just refuse, without explanation, then no law is broken. Business have the right to refuse service to anyone however, they can’t vocalize why. Would we be having this conversation if it was an interracial couple who she refused service to because interracial marriage is against her religious beliefs? No way, people would shut her down in a second and praise the courts for this decision. But “christians” can’t keep their mouths shut and must be vocal with their refusal of whatever for marriage equality. Even if they had a case for refusing a same sex couple on religious grounds they would also have to refuse anyone that has been divorced except for reasons of adultery. Those are Jesus’ own words. But you know those rules apply to them so they make up loopholes.

      • Steverino

        Funny how they consider their own “sins” to be more privileged than others…

      • CanuckDon

        Hey…if you can’t grab opportunities to use your superior, moralistic Christian platitudes to try to put others down, what good is it ?

        • Prixator

          I thought that that was the whole point of religion – making oneself feel superior at the expense of others (oh, but don’t admit it out loud).

      • StraightGrandmother

        Nah, that has been tried before. The discrimitated minorities then send out testors.

    • lymis

      Not even sure if this goes to SCOTUS. State law, state plaintiff, state review, state Supreme Court. They’d have to file a federal suit and start over. Given the result of the wedding photographer’s case, waste of time, anyway.

    • kaydenpat

      This is why Democrats need to do whatever they can to prevent Trump’s SCOTUS nominee from being confirmed. I can see a Rightwing-dominated SCOTUS backing anti-gay discrimination along with other horrors.

      • david fairfield

        What Democrats? We’ve been abandoned. They’re not fighting for ANYTHING, so this will be no different.

  • Brooklyn Joe

    Hey Baronnetta – it sucks to be you, right?

    • Todd20036

      Sucked to be her even before this ruling.

  • Boreal

    Finally some good news!

  • PickyPecker

    But who IS ‘Arlene’ of ‘Arlene’s Flowers???’

    • Treant

      Cottonelle’s “very good friend” who lives with her but there’s nothing going on. Shut up.

      • Steverino

        Two “old maids” who live together. Just like the two “confirmed bachelors” who live next door. Cottonelle is from that era.

        • Hue-Man

          “Two can live together as cheaply as one.”

      • Wait, seriously?

        • Treant

          No, but it’s truthy enough that it sounds good, so I’m running with it.

          • bzrd

            and besides, we read it on the internet

    • Rex

      She drives the delivery van.
      It’s a Subaru.

      • Dagoril

        There’s always an Indigo Girls cd in the cd player. I’m just sayin’…

  • Rex

    She could have sold the couple flowers, made a profit, and went on with her life.
    But no.
    However, I’m sure she’s enjoyed all the attention she’s received from her anti-LGBT cronies.

    • Gregory B

      All she would have had to do is confess her “sin” – selling the flowers – and all would have been forgiven. At least that’s what the *christians* say…

    • Prixator

      She has probably made a LOT of money on the martyr circuit. That’s why she and ADF are not going to stop beating this long-dead horse.

  • Rick

    HURRAH.

  • geoffalnutt

    Winning the war against religion one case at a time. Yay!!!

  • AtticusP

    Uh-oh.

    Looks like Barronelle baked her victory party cake too soon…

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/244a431d791f0f060f90017a0f5d925d6ddfe927ee8e98fe1dd45ee5f76e6249.jpg

  • Ninja0980

    For those that say this is a fight we shouldn’t have done or that this will hurt us, here’s the thing.
    This woman wanted a pass on discrimination laws citing her faith.
    If she was allowed one, who else would be allowed to ignore discrimination laws?
    Grocery stores, hotel owners, renters, doctors etc?
    And if folks think that couldn’t happen, simply look at who her lawyers were.
    They wanted this as a test case to gut all LGBT protection laws, thank goodness they didn’t succeed..this time.

    • james1200

      Southern whites tried to use their Christian faith to discriminate against blacks back in the day, citing passages in the bible they said banned interracial mingling, didn’t they? These people never learn.

      • Earl

        Yep, they used the bible to justify slavery too.

        • MBear

          The bible is pretty clear that slavery is a-ok. Not much of a stretch, tho

    • another_steve

      We shouldn’t care what people believe based on their religion or anything else. Lots of people believe crazy, hateful things. That said, the price one pays for the advantages of living in civilized society is that one sets aside personal beliefs and serves everyone. Equally.

      If you don’t want to serve everyone, you can’t live in civilized society.

      Go live in Iran. Or a cave community somewhere.

      • CottonBlimp

        I always say religion should have to make compromises for the sake of a healthy, free secular society, not the other way around.

  • teeveedub

    More results of that great legal representation by Mat Staver and the gang.

    • Dazzer

      Will he now appeal to SCOTUS? (I’m an iggerant furriner – not sure how this works).

  • james1200
  • Tawreos

    I’d be happier if I didn’t know that the christians will swoop in with money for her for standing up for her beliefs.

  • Do Something Nice

    Baronelle? Who does that to a child?

    • james1200

      Her parents named her Baronelle because they knew as soon as she came out of the womb that she’d grow up to be an asshole.

    • Tawreos

      People that believe in tormenting a child

    • Steverino

      Baronette would have been too pretentious.

    • Rex

      People who want their child to grow being a god fearin’, gay hatin’ bitch, that’s who.

    • Mike__in_Houston

      When I see names like that, I suspect that the parents wanted a child of the opposite gender. My guess is that Baronelle’s parents were planning to name their boy Baron. I used to know a woman named Claudella and a man named Margarito; same thing.

    • Dagoril

      I believe it comes from The Book of Pretentious Baby Names.

      • Cousin Bleh

        It’s in between Atticus and Brooklyn.

    • Lars Littlefield

      She does.

    • janey

      feminine version of Baron? Trump kind of name isn’t it?

  • Bill

    Poor dear. Maybe I should send her a cauldron of my famous Boo Hoo Stew?

  • Sam_Handwich
    • ByronK

      She’ll need a tissue. I’m sure she’s on a roll.

      • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

        If she’s on a roll she can use that. I’m not sharing my tissues with someone who has a roll of them.

      • RobynWatts

        Quite handy in order to clean up that sheetz she probably made when the ruling passed.

  • Boreal
  • PickyPecker
    • T-Batwoman

      Now that is fitting πŸ˜‚

    • Snarkaholic

      My thoughts: Ha ha! Up yours, beeeeyotch!
      My prayers: Please, universe, let her drown her sorrows in a barrel of absinthe!

      • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

        Or a butt of Malmsey…

        • Waste of good Malmsey.

          • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

            Ya never know. They have casks of liquor with snakes in it in Vietnam and the Phillipines. Maybe it’s an enhancement?

    • Michael R
    • vorpal

      But, but, but… didn’t they vote for traditional Christian family values by electing the guy who is thrice married and an admitted, lying philanderer instead of the upstanding lady who has been married only once and committed to working through a difficult time in her marriage?

      This couldn’t possibly be their god punishing them.
      It must be due to the gay buttsexes.

  • Pat

    Ha! Free to go to any church, free to stand on a corner even and shout about it, but never free to hide behind it. Good for Washington!

  • Mark

    BOOM-erang!

  • Stogiebear

    Poor little Cottonswab. I wonder if she’s a tired of losing as Donnie is of winning?

  • Ninja0980

    One more thing… I’m tired of folks saying how she “nicely” turned a same sex couple she had been friends with for years away.
    There is no “nice” way to say you are lesser then others or that you won’t be provided service.
    She might as well have called them faggots and told them they would burn in hell because that is what her message to them was.

    • aww, Ninja, you were so on point…so close.
      Than.

  • HZ81

    You don’t bring me right-wing bigoted hateful flowers… anymore!

  • bkmn

    This is why we need to contact our Senators and let them know that Trump’s SCOTUS nominee should not be approved. It was good enough for Garland, it should be good enough for Gorsuch.

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      Have all the markets been seeing the pro Gorsuck commercials ??
      ” He is such a good, honest, decent guy, I used to work for the Obama admin….blah blha blah … “

      • janey

        saw one of those, yuck.

    • Steverino

      Just tell them Trump is in the last year of his presidency, so…

  • Sam_Handwich

    here’s the ruling, it’s about 60 pages

    http://www.courts.wa.gov/opinions/pdf/916152.pdf

    bottom line:
    The State of Washington bars discrimination in public accommodations on the basis of sexual orientation. Discrimination based on same-sex marriage constitutes discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. We therefore hold that the conduct for which Stutzman was cited and fined in this case-refusing her commercially marketed wedding floral services to Ingersoll and Freed because theirs would be a same-sex wedding constitutes sexual orientation discrimination under the WLAD.

  • Pollos Hermanos
  • Pat

    I just realized – unanimous decision. That’s gotta hurt. Oh, the fundyloon outrage in 3-2-1…

  • bambinoitaliano

    Pssst. Kim Davis. Time to let go of your table cloth and pass it on to the next pretend martyr.

  • PickyPecker

    Man, it’s been a while since we’ve had some good Sadz. A dry spell.
    (looks for sadz gif folder)

    • bzrd

      where’s a crying taco

    • Hue-Man

      Careful what you wish for – California dam overflow is a warning to us all! Ration those SADZ tears.

  • Sam_Handwich
    • Treant

      But his hope came true. The court did protect the freedom of all Washingtonians.

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    • Ninja0980

      Wow, even the bigoted judges back from 05 were against her.

      • androphiles

        Evidently they’re not bigoted.

    • Sam_Handwich

      funny part is that the ruling was already out when they tweeted that. fuckin stupid losers

    • vorpal

      Poor little Barronelle.
      Such a delicate little flower she is.

      • Uncle Mark

        I hope the flowers in her shop aren’t as delicate as she is. Headlines should read “Flower Shop Owner Ironically Beaten By Pansies.”

      • StraightGrandmother

        Oh no she isn’t this quiet little mild mannered granddma. I watched a live streamed event, I rhink it was either CPAC or maybe Heritage, Alliance Defending Fredom brought her in, ran their short video showing how sweet she is, after the video she spoke maybe 2/3 ssentences from the podium and then she ended by literally bellowing out, shaking her fiist, “GOD WILL NOT BE MOCKED!” She got a standing O. So she is no little mild sweet grandma.

        • vorpal

          One look at her nasty little face and I can tell that she beats puppies for fun.

    • Nic Peterson

      Did Staver run point for plaintiff? Seems like a Staver-y sort of decision.

    • StraightGrandmother

      I’ll never forget FRC’s “Call to Fall ( on your knees, pray)” campaign before the SCOTUS Windsor decision & Onergfell decision. Their followers were to fast and pray for I think it was 21 days that the Lord would move the hearts of our Supreme Court Justices to rule against ppl who are gay. Their fast ended tne day before the rulings and we all know what happened there.

      • vorpal

        I’ve asked them exactly how many times their god needs to say NO to them before they’re willing to listen, but they’re only willing to hear what they want to.

    • kaydenpat

      FRC needs to find something else to do with its time. We’re not going backwards.

    • RobynWatts

      Winning IS fun.

    • Skip Intro

      Yeah, take that, Cottonelle.

      • BillyDee4

        I have mixed feelings about calling her that. After all, toilet paper, unlike her, serves a good purpose.

  • Tomcat

    Hey Christian,, did Jesus turn his back on ANYONE?

    • Lars Littlefield

      Although I’m not a Christian and I do not play one on TV, I believe Jesus was mean to some pigs by forcing demons into them and then there’s his cranky arguments with Satan during his 40 days in the desert. I think he turned his back on those folks.

      • Tomcat

        Cut me some slack, I don’t believe in Jesus either, but I am trying to shame them into living by their own biblical beliefs.
        Even though I know that is a biblical impossibility.
        But for shits and giggles, I thought I would try.

        • Lars Littlefield

          πŸ™‚

      • Tomcat

        By the way back when I was indoctrinated to be one of them.
        (Brought up in Methodist Children’s Home) I must have missed that part about the pigs in my teachings.

        • Lars Littlefield

          I don’t know where/lwhat/or why it occurs or who made it up, but supposedly the pigs drowned themselves rather than be possessed by demons.

          • Tomcat

            You are right, as opposed to REICH.
            I googled it and found it. Very interesting, but highly improbable outside of religious mythology.
            Anyway thanks for teaching me something today, much more than I am learning about good government lately.

          • Lars Littlefield

            LOL! The world is truly a screwy place if anyone learns something new about Jesus or bible stories from me . . . the least Jesusy person in the world. Peace out. πŸ™‚

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    She will be named the next ambassador to …………..

    • Gustav2

      ISIS.

      • Lars Littlefield

        Throwthemofftheroofistahn.

  • Boreal
    • PickyPecker

      YAY! Sadz meme!!! XO

  • Tomcat

    One thing for certain, Trump Administration is having an effect on Judges all over the US. Against him and his band of hatred.

  • Treant
  • BeaverTales

    Next stop, SCOTUS…freshly stacked with young conservatives for the next 20 years.

    • nope. State Supreme Court. game over. she’s done.

      • BobSF_94117

        Uh… you think ADF is gonna stop?

      • Silver Badger

        Next stop Washington.

      • BeaverTales

        Why would ADF stop at the state supreme court? We didn’t stop when state supreme courts tried to invalidate SSM

        “Religious liberty” is a US constitutional issue that the alt-Right is begging to backlash against us….

  • SLK in SF

    Watch the “drinkers of liberal tears” get enormously butthurt. I can’t wait!

  • SFBruce

    The ABC News piece says Stutzman is only being fined $1,000 plus one dollar in court fees, which is not a bad deal for her, since it cost the state of Washington far more to accommodate her hopeless appeals. And her lawyers at ADF will just send off a few amped up appeals for more money so they can continue these senseless battles.

    • Boreal

      It was always all about the fundraising, not Cottonelle.

      • BobSF_94117

        It’s a pity the court doesn’t address the extent of her “martyrdom” and the size of the grift she has generated.

  • I feel better now…

    • Lars Littlefield

      Nice avatar. Love it. Simply love it!

  • Boreal
  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    It’s good to see Newt Gingrich finally get slapped down.
    (That’s Newt in the photo, right??)

  • Rick

    I hope she’s broke as fuck now. Is that mean? Oh well.

  • Lazycrockett
    • Gustav2

      Snowflakes.

    • FAEN

      Cowardly snowflakes.

      • Bitsey Mae

        Yellow snowflakes. (Saw that earlier)

        • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

          That works on several levels. I like it!

    • billbear1961

      Fucking, goddamned COWARDS!!

    • billbear1961

      I hope the miserable BASTARDS are soon afraid of their own goddamned shadows!!

    • billbear1961

      Please, lovers of the REPUBLIC, keep after them!!

    • The_Wretched

      This pisses me off as we have a right to “petition the Government for a redress of grievances” It’s in the First Amendment of the federal Constitution. This ducking out and not hearing the people is against the fundamentals of our government. Ivory tower elite legislating is not ok and is one of the cores of our freedoms.

      • Steverino

        These are the same assholes who dissed Democratic representatives for boycotting Trump’s inauguration, under the premise that “they should attend, as representatives of the people of their districts, including those who voted for Trump.”

    • Blake Mason

      What happened to the mandate that they had?

    • ColdCountry

      Afraid of their own constituents. That’ll make their re-election campaigns interesting. If they are brave enough to run again.

    • StraightGrandmother

      If they are ducking and running now, just wait until they propose their replacement for Obamacare. That is gonna be wild.

      • kaydenpat

        It needs to be wild to catch their attention. They shouldn’t just waltz into taking away healthcare access to 20 million people.

    • kaydenpat

      Cowards! Weak! Pathetic! Rethugs!

  • bambinoitaliano
    • Lars Littlefield

      That’s a Western Dandelion (Taraxacum laevigatum) that is native to the Western USA and produces red achenes (seeds). It is tasty. Good eaten’ in salads. And it is an endangered species because it cross breeds with the more familiar T. officianale which is native to Europe. I’m thinking the scat is deer poop. πŸ™‚

  • Dirk Prophet

    I love WA!

    Omnia Extares

  • WNY
  • FAEN

    And again they call us snowflakes. I’m sure I could manage to sell flowers without getting bent out of shape, insulting my customers and wasting time and money.

  • JDS
  • Henry Auvil

    I think Barronelle is the perfect drag name for the youngest Trump.

    • DoctorDJ

      (So wrong. In so many excellent, sophomoric, ways…)

  • Snarkaholic

    PING!!!

  • Gregory B

    Some good news to brighten my day – yay!!

  • Lars Littlefield

    May Barronelle be plagued with spider mites the rest of her days.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      … and aphids!

      • Paula

        Scabies is a little more personal.

        • Dreaming Vertebrate

          True, … but aphids often reproduce by parthenogenesis, which is bound to upset her Xtian sensibilities something wicked.

          • Boreal

            Probably her only viable option. Who would fuck that?

          • bzrd

            ants herd their aphids like cows onto the plants then milk the sweet stuff dripping out of them

  • Blake J Butler
    • Steverino

      And spiritual fruits over religious nuts.

    • kaydenpat

      True.

  • barrixines

    Fancy being forced to make your profits from gay people just like you do straight people. Really being nailed to a cross is nothing on Baronelle’s suffering.

    Thoughts, prayers and a bouquet of piss-the-beds.
    https://lorischulz.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/dandelion-bouquet.jpg

    • Lars Littlefield

      A bouquet of taraxacum officionale is too good for her.

    • Steverino

      There is a variety of yellow rose called “Golden Showers,” which I think was developed and sold by Jackson & Perkins (no relation to Tony).

      • TuuxKabin

        Ahhh, Tony. The actor. Not the bigot.

      • ‘Golden Showers’ was raised by Walter Lammerts and introduced by a nursery in Los Angeles called the Germain Seed and Plant Co. That was in 1956, and the name alluded to a now-forgotten popular song of the day. That was before the phrase “golden showers” had acquired its current connotations. See also: the roses ‘Shower of Gold’ (1910), ‘Gay Princess’ (1957), and ‘Treasure Trail’ (2009).

        • Steverino

          Thank you for that! Now I know what to put on our gardening shopping list for a proper gay garden…
          : )

          • Also ‘Gay Crusader'(1948), ‘Nancy Gay’ (2011) ‘Gay Debutante’ (1958), ‘Gaytime’ (1966) and ‘Gayness’ (1955) — and dozens more with “gay” in their names, though most are of very limited availability.

            Then there are quite a few roses named after gay people — ‘General Gallieni’ (1894) ‘Benjamin Britten’ (2001) and ‘Handel’ (1966) come to mind.

            Be aware, however, that if you include ‘Handel’ in a gay garden, your friendly neighbourhood Christain will have a fit πŸ™‚

          • Steverino

            Oh, I definitely could not Handel that!
            : )

    • janey

      Dandelions are very useful plants. The roots are medicine. The leaves are salad and the flowers are used to make dandelion wine. Too good for Barronelle.

  • Blake J Butler
  • ok…great.
    but let’s look at the time frame. 4 years for this to settle?
    judicial system works slowly!!

    • billbear1961

      I noticed that, too.

      Four YEARS–incredible!

  • Gay Fordham Prep Grad

    OT in other fun court news, a judge in New Jersey just gave the all clear to charge the fat bastard in the Bridgegate scandal.

    • billbear1961
      • BillyDee4

        Imagine the wingspan that would be needed to get Christie off the ground!

    • TuuxKabin

      When I heard it I let out a hoot. It’s going to be a joy to know he has to testify.

    • RobynWatts

      Ready for Christine’s testimony. 🍿

  • Xuuths

    Woo hoo!

  • boobert

    That’s a bit of good news in a crazy world.

  • Paula

    OT: The orange 45 is going to be on TV to talk about leakers. Is that a double entendre? What kind of leakers?

    • Sam_Handwich

      supposedly to roll out his new Labor Sec nominee.

      hope the press ignores and asks Flynn/Russia questions.

      • Paula

        Oh good! As long as Russian hookers aren’t involved in the leaks. It gets messy.

        • Boreal
          • BobSF_94117

            So, several years ago, partner and I had an incontinent doggie. The vet suggested Depends, so we went to the store in a nearby neighborhood with a lot of elderly and retired. Sure enough, they had a WIDE variety of shapes and sizes. As we perused and discussed the attributes of different configurations, an older lady joined us in the aisle. We smiled the stranger-in-store smile and went about our business. Everything was fine until my partner asked, “How about this one?”. I replied, “I think that’ll work. If we turn it sideways, it’ll fit around the tail.” The lady, who had been eavesdropping, gasped. The look on her face! She ran off around the corner, never to be seen again.

          • TuuxKabin

            Love it. Reminds me of three dot journalism of Herb Caen. That was hillaryous.

            El HubCap and I on the bus were talking about Mz. Kitty, his ornery 13 year old cat, = 91 years in human years, supposedly. My comment, “I’m sorry, 91 years old IS NOT THAT OLD, she’s taking advantage of her age.” Sitting parallel on the bus, rather than rows, the looks I got across the aisle made us laugh. We didn’t explain and endured the “how could you?” stares.

          • David Milley

            (guffaw!)

  • billbear1961
  • Mike__in_Houston

    Dammed libruls. They have rernt our country.

  • Cousin Bleh

    Barely on-topic: Milo apologist and America’s favorite new gay conservative, Chadwick Moore, whom we all lambasted yesterday, has a new interview with NPR today. It turns out he was always conservative. He says: “I support an evangelical Christian florist who doesn’t want to do the flowers for a gay wedding. You can go to another florist to do your flowers. Don’t unleash the ACLU on granny and her bucket of dyed carnations.”

    Fuck this guy. Or don’t.

    http://www.npr.org/2017/02/16/515411688/gay-journalist-leaves-left-behind-and-embraces-a-brand-new-conservative

    • Mike__in_Houston

      I vote for don’t. Besides, I think his ass is still sore…

    • Gustav2

      It is not JUST about the gawdamn flowers. If a florist can ignore public accommodations laws, every business can.

      • Brian Burleson

        There’s the attitude that we know and love. I was getting a little concerned. πŸ™‚

    • billbear1961

      That’s right–just walk on down the street and BEG for service at a business that might DEIGN to serve you.

      Maybe, eventually, you might find one.

      And if not, well, too bad!

      Jackass!

    • The_Wretched

      The way Jim Crowe works is that the bigoted shops pressure the non-conforming shops to fall in line or get hounded out of business. And it makes an underclass of people who must call or plan ahead for regular normal purchases and day -to-day living. That’s a harm well recognized at law and is impermissible. Moore and others like him are disingenuous.

  • Jacob

    Oh Barr-a-whtever, come out come out wherever you are.

  • Michael R

    Cottonelle didn’t know what she was up against

    https://s10.postimg.org/kzoxbmjpl/cottonelle.jpg

    • Mike__in_Houston

      Awww. How can you not love a face like that. And that’s a cute cat too…

      • TuuxKabin

        Impossible not to.

  • billbear1961
  • Kevin Perez

    Hasn’t she already collected her GoFundie prize? How often can you dip into that well before the morons catch on .. nevermind. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9bb50d488e79f46aedfd813dd2fbd3decad2e418897920457f081c508f9a8e0a.jpg

  • Gigi

    All of you must yield to the government rulers. No one rules unless God has given him the power to rule, and no one rules now without that power from God. So those who are against the government are really against what God has commanded. And they will bring punishment on themselves.” (Romans 13:1-2)

  • joe ho

    These anti-gay Christers are such special snowflakes–so easily triggered by gays getting married. They want their safe space away from the gays.

  • Oh, Parker
  • Lumpy Gaga

    O/T?

    I always knew there was something wrong with this boy.

    (Click-spoiler alert: a story about PewdiePie).

    https://www.wired.com/2017/02/pewdiepie-racism-alt-right/

    • TuuxKabin

      His eyes sure show it.

  • Wynter Marie Starr

    Alright, how many times is this now? If she objected to a mixed race wedding, would we even be having this conversation on a national level. It’s wrong to discriminate, period.

    • -M-

      That’s the thing they don’t get, she’s actually perfectly free to object to a “mixed race” wedding, she just can’t refuse to sell them the same goods or services she sells anyone else.

      • Wynter Marie Starr

        Agreed, she can hate or dislike anyone she wants, but she can’t refuse service based on that criteria or the criteria of her mythology.

  • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

    From what I’ve read on this in the past, it sounded like Barronelle mistook flower arranging for being invited to the wedding.

    Also, ‘Barronelle’ sounds like a position in the Trans Court of Pride. Got your Queens, Duchesses, Barronelles…

    • Oh, Parker

      I went to school in a small hick town of about 4,500 people, and two kids from one of the wealthier families in town (they owned a drug store) were named Duke and Duchess. I shit you not.

      • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

        I knew a guy in the Army whose first name was Captain.
        But he was a private Captain.

        • lymis

          Our next door neighbor was named Sergeant. And he had an Army career, too.

          Oh, how the long winter nights must have just flown.

          • Hue-Man

            wiki: Major Major Major Major is a fictional character in Joseph Heller’s novel Catch-22.
            http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FnO5HE-Cxmc/U0YYMdMi9FI/AAAAAAAATRU/mN-jUnonLHs/s1600/20140325_215237.png

          • coram nobis

            Which is why, when they proposed a five-star rank for generals, the Army Chief of Staff insisted on calling it General of the Army. He was damned if he was going to be known as Marshal Marshall.

          • 2guysnamedjoe

            Marcella Beagle founded our local animal shelter. And a guy named Lawless ran for county sheriff (he lost).

        • Ben in Oakland

          but what about Captain’s privates?

          • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

            Wasn’t my job to check ’em. However, since he wasn’t named Ken, presumably he was swinging something down thar.

      • edrex

        Trump named his son Barron.

      • You mean their parents sold drugs?

        • Oh, Parker

          The legal kind, yes. Oh, and they had a soda fountain. Very 1950s kind of town, even today.

        • 2guysnamedjoe

          Or German Shepherds?

    • -M-

      She is of an age where everyone looks like a butch lesbian, nelly queen, or trans person depending on the lighting.

      • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

        So am I. Depending on lighting, I can look like different people. It’s weird, Seinfeld actually did an episode around this phenom.

  • Macbill

    Gays must stay in the back of the bus, and may not sit next to another man at lunch counters.

  • Ninja0980

    I see the bigots are pulling out the Muslims would never be sued card.
    Actually, there have been cases in NY,OR and IL where Muslim cab drivers who threw same sex couples out of their cabs citing religious freedom were sued and lost under the same laws Baronelle did.
    So how about folks claiming this was only targeting Christians shut the fuck up.

    • billbear1961

      Oh, you and your facts!

      • Ninja0980

        Facts have a liberal bias.

    • Stev84

      Some also made a stink about transporting alcohol

  • JaniceInToronto

    So what law firm was representing her and did the plaintiffs win court costs and legal fees?

    • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

      Probably.

    • Maggie 4NoH8

      Alliance Defending Freedom (Christian lawyers)… they are behind many of the similar cases, and even some of the anti-gay, anti-trans (bathroom bills) legislation promulgated in state legislatures (like the infamous HB2 in North Carolina).

      • JaniceInToronto

        The Christians seem to have a hell of a lot of money to waste.
        How ’bout they buy food for people in shelters instead of throwing it away on idiotic court cases?

  • Frostbite

    Time to revive that GoFundMyBigotry account!

  • Michael

    Gee, I wonder how many sins she’s living in.

    • -M-

      Well for starters she’s a woman with short hair who wears jeans doesn’t cover her head in public and owns a business instead of staying home making sammiches.
      /s

  • Gest2016

    Close your store and start a hate group, hag.

  • seant426

    Can you imagine your claim to fame is being such a hateful hag?

    • edrex

      see: Davis, Kim

  • Bluto

    Religious “freedom” isn’t about stopping discrimination. It’s about who gets to do the discriminating.

  • JT

    Barronelle can cry into her Cottonelle.

  • John Ruff

    Pay up, bitch.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada
  • Jack

    ADF Facebook will soon be filled with whiners.

  • Sam

    Here is a link to the decision. It is actually quite interesting.

    http://www.courts.wa.gov/opinions/pdf/916152.pdf

    This line stood out to me.

    “By Stutzman’s best estimate, approximately three percent of her business comes from weddings.”

    So she’s not losing much if she can’t do weddings anymore.

  • TJay229

    Will one of you kind snarky fellow Homosexuals please go over to Ryan Andersons twitter and post his SADZ… He blocked me ages ago and I… I Need to see his sadness right now. πŸ˜‚

    • Pip

      He’s too busy harping on trans issues right now to notice it seems.

  • ColdCountry

    Some people just don’t want to take ‘no’ for an answer.

  • StraightGrandmother

    If Christians don’t want to bake that cake or arrange those flowers, they are free to seek another line of work that does not conflict with their religious beliefs.
    They HAVE options, they just refuse to take those options.

    • Frostbite

      Can’t be a martyr if you aren’t persecuted!

      • Maggie 4NoH8

        And without persecution, religion doesn’t have a leg to stand on.

        • Frostbite

          Shhh! Don’t give away all their secrets!

    • The_Wretched

      Arranging flowers for jesus.

  • MB

    Damn unelected black-robed homonazi so-called judges.
    Hmmmmmph.

    /S

  • Jim Gallagher-Barker

    Baronelle’s “attorneys” threw everything but the kitchen sink at this case. The Washington Supreme Court threw everything right back, then dropped the sink on her pinky toe.

    Boiled down:

    Providing goods and services to a customer is not equivalent to promoting or participating in a practice frowned upon or prohibited by your religion or religious beliefs. In other words, buttercup, selling flowers is not participation in a wedding.

    Courts have repeatedly held that religious individuals & institutions — when they enter into the public accommodation arena — are subject to non-discrimination/public accommodation laws, provided the laws do not unduly burden the religious individual/institution.

    In the context of making a claim against a public accommodation law, employment law requirements may be unduly burdensome on a religious employer. However, non-discrimination/employment laws generally (and specifically in this case) do not apply to non-discrimination/public accommodation cases.

    Making & selling floral arrangements for sale to the public is not artistic expression, it is a business & reasonably subject to WA state non-discrimination/public accommodation laws. Free expression claim correctly denied by lower court.

    Making & selling floral arrangements for sale to the public is not expression of religious beliefs, it is a business & reasonably subject to WA state non-discrimination/public accommodation laws. Religious expression claim correctly denied by lower court.

    Making & selling floral arrangements for sale to the public is not an exercise of free association rights, it is a business & reasonably subject to WA state non-discrimination/public accommodation laws. Free association claim correctly denied by lower court.

    There is no “corporate veil” of protection for a corporate officer from the consequences of an illegal act when the illegal actor is the corporate officer herself. Corporate protection against individual liability claim correctly denied by lower court.

    And here’s the kitchen sink getting dropped on her pinky toe:

    The Court shredded every single one of Baronelle’s arguments in a perfectly civil, polite, and professional manner. More importantly, by adhering to the WA Constitution and relevant court decisions, the WA Supreme Court just told Baronelle and her attorneys to fuck off back under the rocks they crawled out from under. Oh, and (if I’m reading the decision correctly) for wasting the Court’s and our time, Baronelle is indeed liable for court costs, fees and attorney costs on both sides.

    • The_Wretched

      Thanks for the summary, the court really nailed it on this case.

  • Friday

    It’s yet another nine unanimous “rogue activist judges!”

  • juanjo54

    Another poor Christian cruelly oppressed for her religious principles. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/99829955ffea0baa2e74cccf26a349a45e94a7c2d0abf5c71b69835d3518b5f3.jpg

  • The_Wretched

    I’m very heartened by the “general law of neutral applicability” language from the court. It’s exactly the best legal basis for us and the historical understanding of permissible non-discrimination law. It says, you don’t get to ignore following the same laws as everyone else.

  • kaydenpat

    Good. Bigots gonna learn something today.

  • fuow

    This was a gigantic mistake. Yes, of course christians hate us, yes, she’s a fucking c*nt of a mother-fucking bitch.
    No question.
    BUT – this was a battle we should not have fought at that moment in time. It hurt us horrible before we had our protections nailed down.
    And now, we have Pence and the rethugs packing the Supreme Court against us.

    • Ninja0980

      In WA state, we DID have protections nailed down and she and ADF wanted to gut them.
      What was the point of having them if we are afraid to use them?

      • Jim Gallagher-Barker

        If the relevant protections weren’t already in place, neither the State of WA nor the gay couple would have had grounds to sue. Most likely, this case would never had made to the lower court, let alone out of it. The only “reach” in this case was applying “same-sex” to the relevant state marriage statutes. This was the WA court applying Obergefell directly to WA statutes.

        • fuow

          Jim, I am neither naive nor uninformed. This, as were the other florist/cake battles, was a bad mistake at this time.
          You pick and choose your battles.
          Transgender rights? Yes, right now.
          Arming the mother-fucking christers when we don’t have any federa protections?
          Stupid.

          • Jim Gallagher-Barker

            I didn’t say you were naive or uninformed, nor did I mean to imply either. Thing is, if “we” didn’t fight this battle at this time, the mother-fucking christers (your term) would already be waltzing around Washington, Oregon, New Mexico & Tennessee denying services (legal, medical, commercial, property) based on self-declared religious exemptions. Failing to defend the gay couples involved would enable the MFC’s to use the WA/OR/NM/TN cases as a “get out of jail free card” nationwide. In other words, granting the right to discriminate without a fight. These state level decisions set the stage for larger federal decisions.

            Look at Prop 8 – it got punted back down to CA by SCOTUS. But it laid required ground work for Obergefell.

          • Ninja0980

            And sometimes you have no choice.
            The groups that wanted the florist/cake makers to have rights to ignore discrimination laws wouldn’t have stopped there and you know it.

          • Jim Gallagher-Barker

            Washington’s anti-discrimination statutes includes gender identity in the WLAD – Washington Law Against Discrimination. From the Washington Human Rights hum.wa.gov website:

            “the Washington Law Against Discrimination prohibits discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity in the areas of employment, housing, public accommodation, credit, and insurance. That prohibition became part of the Washington State Law Against Discrimination (RCW 49.60) on June 8, 2006.”

            So this case & others like it (provided a gender identity clause is in the relevant statute) sets the groundwork for transgender rights and protections cases making the way to SCOTUS, too. Again, see Prop 22, Prop 8, Windsor, and the various cases nationwide that resulted in Obergefell. NC’s HB2 and laws like it, provided they come to SCOTUS soon enough, may very well do the same thing for transgender rights that Romer & Obergefell did for marriage rights.

          • fuow

            I very much understand your positions on this.
            I completely agree that discrimination against us is wrong and should be fought.
            Where we differ is in the tactics.
            Were Democrats reliable mid-term voters(after 2014/2016 I can just about strike the ‘mid-term’ and go with ‘reliable’) then the political cost of fighting every single battle would be worth it.
            Unfortunately, my party won’t back us up at the voting booth.
            The sort of mother-fucking pig christer who doesn’t like us having rights, however, always votes – and they really, really are open to the case made to them by the Dominionists who look for and support people like this c*nt.

            Some battles we fight, regardless of my party’s lukewarm support – marriage equality, transgender rights, the right of children to have the names of all their parents on their birth certificates.

            Others, we have to be smart how we go about fighting them. We did not fight this battle intelligently. Yes, we won in court and yes, obviously and of course we should have won unanimously.

            But, at what cost? If this sort of decision leads to a Supreme Court ruling that we don’t have rights when the mother fucking christians object to them – and that’s precisely where this is headed – then we will have one very tough battle ahead of us.

            Optics matter. When those two mothers were vacationing in Florida and the one became ill (and then died) the sheer hatred and self-righteous visciousness of the christians who refused her wife and her children access to her, who wouldn’t accept contracts which were binding in their home state did great harm to the christian claim that it’s OK to harm us.

            This? No, it just looks like we’re beating up on a kindly old grandmother. The fact that the mother-fucking c*nt could teach Himmler a thing or three escapes conservative voters totally. It may not escape Democratic party voters – but they are not bothered enough to support us.

            Oh, well – we’ve all had these discussions off and on for a few years now and I’m clearly in the minority on this one. I still maintain that the recognition of our (already existing under the Constitution of the US) rights has come about far more easily when it was clear the christians were the monsters than it has when the optics made us look bad.

        • Um, wasn’t the case brought (and won in the lower court) before Obergefell became law?

          • Jim Gallagher-Barker

            It may have been. But Obergefell, as a SCOTUS decision, becomes precedence, even to ongoing cases.

        • Maggie 4NoH8

          No – the state legislature passed the non-discrimination law violated by the good “Christian” in 2006. The state legislature also passed marriage equality prior to Obergefell. The good “Christians” then managed to get the marriage equality legislation on the ballot (hoping they could overturn it), but Washingtonians approved marriage equality via ballot. There was no “reach” in this case except that of the “Christians” having withdrawals from their undeserved and unearned privilege.

          • Jim Gallagher-Barker

            I concede your point. What I was getting at, if not as clearly as I’d like, was that while it wasn’t a reach to apply Obergefell because SCOTUS decisions are precedential immediately, the court relied on the Washingtonn State Constitution and state laws to tell Baronelle to get lost.

    • Soren456

      “Use it or lose it” is a simple and sufficient response to this.

      More than 50 years of painful effort has created law like this, and for demonstrably good reasons. To suggest that it not be used is an insult toβ€”and makes liars ofβ€”all who have fought to bring it about.

      The religious right will ALWAYS want to pack the court, whether we exist or not; we haven’t provoked them to do something they wouldn’t be doing anyway.

      The “gigantic mistake” would have been to back away and allow this to happen, fearing for some future situation. Progress isn’t built on fear of the future.

      • fuow

        I’m one of those gay men (and have the broken nose to prove it) who fought for our rights at a time when it was illegal to even BE gay in my state.
        The simple truth of the matter is that, yes, this bitch is in the wrong.
        That doesn’t change the fact that the optics here make us look like the bad-guys to people who go out and vote.
        That’s ALL I am saying. We have to fight intelligently. My position is not based on fear, it’s based on what has worked for us in the past and what has not.
        Look, if you don’t mind going back a few years, at the horrible disaster of the first Maine marriage campaign. The people running it explicitly rejected any advertising which showed two men closer to each other than one yard – and that, with grey-haired mother between them. That campaign was a disaster. It looked as if we were ashamed of gay men loving each other, being tender with each other and it led to our loss at the polls.
        The next time around, the folks who didn’t much like gay men (and, having worked in the campaign, I have to add they really, really didn’t like transgender people, either) weren’t running the show. Gay men were shown as we are and things went far better.

        Had we gotten behind this particular case with even half-way decent agitprop instead of just good legal reasoning (of course this couple were in the legal ‘right’ to fight the fucking c*nt), then things would have been presented differently. Instead, we let the hate-driven christians set the theme and it hurt us badly.

        The hate-driven christians threw big money and really effective propaganda tools at making this monster look like the victim. We did not.
        Nor will we in the future – we’re fairly well represented in the legal aspects of these problems. We’re in the right, after all. I’m not questioning that. But in the optics of the matter? Nope, we’re blowing that end of it, badly.

        Maybe this helps to explain my position a bit better. Probably not, we disagreed on this at every juncture over the last few years.

    • Maggie 4NoH8

      No – it never “hurts” to call out and eliminate discrimination. Period. It’s a hallmark of our political system, designed into the constitution when it was drafted. To not actively oppose discrimination is un-American.

  • Now she has to burn in hell. :0D

  • Xuuths

    This is a great decision. So many good lines in it. Totally destroys all the stupid excuses people give. Justice prevails!!!

  • david fairfield

    I don’t think this is the last we will hear from this c*nt. She seems pretty determined to make her point. Whatever it is. But but but but…..since when did the fags get to be treated like people????

  • Homo Erectus

    Oh fer chrissake. How many times do the courts have to tell this publicity whore that she’s breaking the law? I swear she’s lost this case more times than Liberty Council loses theirs.

  • Maggie 4NoH8

    Yesterday: SPLC added ADF to list of hate groups.
    Today: ADF gets 2nd helping of karma from Washington Supreme Court.
    Tomorrow: Jesus chuckles to himself.

  • JCF
  • bill@19D

    Good. This is of course not a violation of her religious liberty no matter what the other side says. Indeed religious liberty wins with this ruling, the only thing that loses with this ruling is the attempt to create special rights for anti-gay ideology and its desire to impose religious tyranny.

  • Two Husbands

    The Wall of Separation of all godstyles from government, an essential foundation of our American democracy and values, must stand tall for America not to fall utterly into theocracy.

  • 3-Star

    She looks as if she could play for our team.

  • Chiro Magna

    Happy about this although the timing isn’t great as Trump & co are getting reading to unveil a new Federal Religious Freedom Act. Hearing about this will want them to double down and create an amendment that is 100 times more oppressive.

  • Piona O.

    The reason this woman is at risk of losing her home, business, savings, etc., is because she neglected years ago to buy insurance for her business. If she’d had insurance, she’d only be liable for the deductible. But now, she’ll lose everything. And, since she turned down a plea bargain that would have let her off the hook for $2,001, now she’s apparently determined to become a martyr in the Kim Davis fashion. Good luck, girl, that don’t work no more.