MALAYSIA: Government Backs Ex-Gay Torture [VIDEO]

The Independent reports:

Malaysia’s Government has endorsed gay conversion therapy after federal authorities claimed sexual orientation can be changed with extensive training. A video produced by the country’s family, social and development department explains how Muslims can change their approach to the LGBT community so that it does not promote hate against a minority, but the video has sparked anger for its suggestion that sexuality can be “cured”.

The three-minute long video in the Malay language says: “The fact is, there are those among Muslims that have non-heterosexual orientation but remain steadfast on the path of Islam. “For them, this is a test of Allah, and they choose to face the test appropriate with what Islam demands.” In Malaysia, LGBT rights are largely unrecognised and sodomy remains a criminal activity under British Empire colonial era law.

According to the Malay Mail Online, the film likens sexual orientation to horse riding, claiming when someone realises they have different preferences from the majority, they need extensive training and guidance to correct this. It urges a repentant homosexual to fulfil their desires through marriage or to suppress their appetite through measures including fasting. The video advises Muslims to be patient and help their friends change and return to the heterosexual path, if they discover them to be LGBT.

Gay Malays have mixed reactions to the video itself. Via Gay Star News:

Social media was divided about the message of the video with some people praising JAKIM for its ‘soft-lined’ approach to the issue. “Color me surprised with rainbow colors,” said Luq Harith. “JAKIM actually came out with a video that is non-hateful of the LGBTI community. This is far better than saying they’re sinners, they’re going to Hell, bla bla bla.”

Other people said the video would promote false ideas about conversion therapies. “This video is going to make people believe that there is a way to ‘change’ homosexuals into heterosexuals. No way you can do that,” said Sheelabanu Sri Jaya. “Not impressed with the content but kudos to JAKIM for focusing on not being hateful or violent towards LGBTI people,” Huda Mutalib said.

JAKIM is the acronym for the Department of Islamic Advancement of Malaysia, which is part of the National Fatwa Council.

  • What a shame, I have enjoyed my visits to Kuala Lumpur. But I’m not going back and spending my money there until this goes away.

    • OrangeJesus

      In places like Malaysia and Indonesia it will never go away.

    • Natty Enquirer

      So you were okay with the anti-sodomy law and this is what turns you away?

      • Sodomy laws were already on the books from the colonial era and don’t really distinguish between hetero and homo sex. (not that accept those ideas) Now they’re implementing laws specifically targeting the LGBT community. There is a difference.

  • OrangeJesus

    As Bill Maher has long maintained, it’s not just the crazy Jihadis who are a danger in Islam. I’ve lived there and can tell you this sort of stuff is pervasive.

    Sorry, guys.

    • Natty Enquirer

      It’s a danger even among the liberalized adherents of religion. When your deepest beliefs are delusions, you are capable of greatly harmful behavior.

      • Statistics Palin

        Voltaire: “Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities

    • The_Wretched

      bugger off.

      • OrangeJesus

        That was friendly. GFY.

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  • Boreal
    • Good! While I hate to hurt American farmers, Orange 45 needs to know actions have consequences.

      • Boreal

        Other countries will do the same.

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        Most of the commodity growers; Corn & soy are the biggest trumpers ever. They can go to hell.

        • The_Wretched

          With the trashing of the USDA and EPA, i can see many foreign countries not buying US food as potentially unsafe and not worth the time and cost to test. They play that card even when we are doing our best. We are a major agricultural export nation. Loss of those sales will hurt for years while trust and confidence is rebuilt.

  • HZ81

    And I back ex-Malaysia tourist-reform. As in, nobody travel there anymore.

  • JT

    Religion breeds madness and inhumanity.

  • bkmn

    This is why religion needs to be kept out of governments.

    • Statistics Palin

      At gunpoint, if necessary.

    • Steverino

      And out of bedrooms. Hell, even straights could agree with that.

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  • Todd20036

    I’m sure they are cured. All you have to do is beat them until they are cured, or they die.
    Of course, such “cured” people will relapse as soon as they can escape their situation.
    Anyone want to guess if that could happen here on a national level?

  • Robert Anthony

    Psychological violence is still violence. Telling someone they’re “broken” is a hateful, oppressive crime.

  • Boreal
  • Robincho

    ORANG MUSLIM — Nice to see Blimp getting some of Obama’s flak…

    • Miji

      Haha. I thought that was funny too. If it’s the same as in Indonesian, that’s man or person, as in orangutan which translates to man of the forest or something similar.

      • Misutaa Roboto

        Indonesian is pretty much a dialect of Malay, and you are spot on.

  • Ernest Endevor

    “… or to suppress their appetite through measures including fasting.” Snacking also works.

    • I enjoy a good snack, while down on my knees.

  • Mr. M

    Gee, an Islamic country doesn’t like gays. Color me surprised.

  • Bill

    Show us a cure for heterosexuality that works, and we MIGHT take you seriously.

    Until then, go fuck your mothers.

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      gifts can’t be cured

      • Joseph Miceli

        Takes two of them to make one of us!

    • BobSF_94117

      There’s been a lot of promising research with six-packs of beer.

  • Earl

    The cure for religion is reason.

  • Joseph Miceli

    In the end it still leads to the same place: gay youth and adults committing suicide.
    This is vile and unacceptable to civilized people. I suggest these barbarians pull themselves out of the gutter and …yes… I say the EXACT same thing about Christian Neanderthals who advocate ex-gay torture too. They are mental primitives.

  • Xiao Ai

    Malays, Filipinos, and Singaporeans never, ever fail me. Their vile need to be subjugated by the Abrahamic religions always supersedes logic, and compassion.

    It’s why I’ve chosen never to visit any of my LGBT friends in those countries who deserve much, much, better.

    • jonfromcalifornia

      Singaporeans and Malaysians think that building skyscrapers in their cities makes them “civilized”. As long as they hold on to primitive ideas and prejudices like this, they will ever never be “civilized”.

  • Superman

    Sorry, but I’m still not ok with Malaysia’s attitudes toward gay people. This softer approach is better, but I consider it primitive and revolting for a country to keep sodomy laws on the books, much less enforce them.

  • KK

    Small steps… but not far enough for removal of prejudice and establishment of full equality. Remember how conversion therapy was the norm in western world less than half a century ago?

  • Derrick Johns

    Interesting explanation by Malaysian & Indonesian LGBT folks–on how they find the video less harmful than we do over here in the West. We cannot tell them how to survive. It’s just painful for us to hear how Gay and Transfolk are persecuted in parts of Asia, Africa and Eastern Europe. Well….

  • shivadog

    It’s a kinder, more gentle hate.

  • Silver Badger

    Well, I guess It’s better than being thrown off a building.

  • Mike Knife

    Terrorist suppress LGBT people by using psychiatry to electric shock and drug LGBT people to make them “straight” and that kills them, dead. Stop terrorizing LGBT people. The Malaysia’s Government is now a terrorist group and should be treated as such.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Sigh, another nation crippled by the scourge of the willfully chosen disease of Religitardation, how utterly tragic.

  • ….aaaaand Malaysia is scratched off my “must visit” list. Fucking godbags.

    • OrangeJesus

      No big loss. Vietnam, Cambodia and Thailand are way better anyway.

  • Misutaa Roboto

    Perfect example of why I got really irritated with one of the formerly frequent commenters here who once said I was being too critical of Islam and held up Malaysia and Indonesia as examples of “ridiculously liberal” Muslim countries. I couldn’t tell how much of that particular bullshit was coming from a place of ignorance and how much was coming from a willingness to grade Islam on a curve.

    Addendum: I think there’s a subset of liberals that has a hard time reconciling criticism of a dangerous organized superstition with not wanting its adherents to be treated as less than human in their own country. Seems like an easy enough distinction to me.