LIVE VIDEO: Sanders Debates Cruz On Obamacare

CNN reports:

Under President Donald Trump, the Republican Party is gearing up to overhaul Obamacare — the sweeping health care law enacted in 2010 that covers some 20 million Americans. At a special CNN town hall debate Tuesday night, two senators with diametrically opposed views of the government’s role in health care — Ted Cruz and Bernie Sanders — will face off and field questions from Americans about the future of the country’s health care system.

Both men unsuccessfully ran for president in 2016. Each senator has a national following — Cruz as a spokesperson of the conservative right and Sanders as a representative of liberal ideals. The prime-time event, moderated by CNN’s Jake Tapper and Dana Bash, is certain to highlight the many challenges surrounding efforts to dismantle the Affordable Care Act. And it comes as the GOP grapples with how quickly to repeal the law, with Trump acknowledging recently that it might not happen this year.

Watch live at CNNgo or below via the embedded bootlegged live stream.

  • Lazycrockett

    Good god, No!

  • Kevin Perez

    Why is Bernie punching down. Cruz isn’t worthy of his attention.

  • disqus_Qm7Y1t9k8U

    I’ve been trying to figure out all week what the point of this is. I still have no idea.

    • A ratings stunt? I have no idea. Sanders would certainly not have been anywhere on my list of people to defend the ACA. I like Bernie and if I wanted someone to debate why we need single payer, I might pick him, but not for this.

      • Sam

        The debate is about the future of healthcare, not defending the ACA status quo. Republicans are for repeal now and replace someday with individual HSA piggy banks. Sanders is for improving on what we have in the ACA to keep as many people as possible covered until we can migrate to something better like Medicare for All. I can’t think of any other Senator more qualified to present a rebuttal to the constant media narrative of repeal and whatever.

    • Ninja0980

      Two blowhards stroking their egos.

      • Lawerence Collins

        With that post. The same thing can be said about you.

      • bill weber

        Still a bitter neoliberal?

    • Carl

      It’s for people who enjoy political theater more than actually voting.

    • goofy_joe

      I think the news organizations are going to begin reaching out to Senators and Congress people more and more to get actual intellectual debate on topics, considering our President can only speak in a limited number of characters at one time.

  • SoCalGal20

    Bernie, shouldn’t you be participating the Senate filibuster re Sessions?

    • kaydenpat

      In other words, doing something useful.

      • danolgb

        Why would he start now? Remember that time he blocked Obama’s FDA pick who was already the acting director anyway over something that the FDA had no control over? Or when he threw some Dems under the bus in a Tweet because they voted against an amendment to re-import drugs from Canada because Canada apparently should do the work of fixing drug prices for us?

        • kaydenpat

          Ugh. Truly useless.

    • Lazycrockett

      Nothing more important to Bernie than his brand.

    • Sam

      There are 47 other Democratic Senators no one’s ever heard of who I’m sure could pitch in till he gets back.

    • Treant

      That would require effort, and there are fewer cameras and eyeballs on him there.

  • Tiger Quinn

    What is the point of this spectacle? To give Trump something to tweet about?

    • Sam

      Maybe to educate the public on the realities of the ACA, the hope for something better like Single Payer, and not let Republicans keep the narrative locked on Repeal and Whatever.

      • Treant

        So you’re saying it’s completely hopeless since Bernie couldn’t even manage to convince a majority of Democrats to vote for him.

        • danolgb

          He did go right back to being an Independent when the party was no longer useful for him. He enjoys being the anti-guy. He gets to grandstand without having to actually do anything.

          • Treant

            ‘Sokay, though, he’s voted for some of Trump’s appointees because, apparently, they’re qualified.

            (Yeah, I went from neutral on Bernie at the start to dislike to very intense dislike to, at this point, considering him flat out useless).

          • Goggles

            Independent or not, the man is Chair of Outreach for the DNC and has stellar approval ratings, particularly with the groups dissatisfied most with the Democratic party. The Democrats need him out there.

          • Stuart Wyman-Cahall

            The Dems needed him to give his minions a seat at the table. Now the Busters got nothing but a walk in the wilderness for decades. Too bad the whole country is getting “berned” and not in a good way.

          • Goggles

            I don’t know about Busters, but polling from The Guardian suggests the conversion rate from Sanders supporters over to Clinton was about 85%. Clinton hemorrhaged former Obama coalition votes across the board, not just among Sanders supporters. Considering Clinton’s poorly-run campaign and third-party meddling, it seems uncharitable to me to blame Sanders or Sanders supporters for the loss.

          • Stuart Wyman-Cahall

            I’m not in a charitable mood. When I think of all those “Killery” memes that were spread across the internet by Sander’s supporters I think that they surly pushed that narrative. They would have a seat at the table. Now they’ll wander into the wilderness for decades.

          • danolgb

            And just what has he done in that position?

          • Goggles

            It’s hard to say what he’s done that specifically ties into that role considering the DNC is currently on life support, but off the top of my head: he’s been making frequent appearances on CNN and MSNBC (including this debate and a previous townhall), he was one of the primary drivers of the 40-city Democractic party health care rally, and he’s repurposed his campaign’s event tracker to host Democratic party events instead.

            I’m sure there will be more once the DNC is actually functional again.

          • danolgb

            Yes, he’s been making lots of appearances. Especially when he was peddling his book.

  • Ninja0980

    Two blowhards for the price of one.. I’ll pass.

  • danolgb

    Pass..

  • Chris H.
  • fuzzybits
  • AJ Drew

    and this is happening, why?

  • AtticusP

    Lyin’ Ted on the set of “Green Acres” with Arnold Ziffel and Oliver Wendell Douglas.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b7c2af6be5cf789972732b3c0e80593c606c45d0195af54ec25a385e195e369d.jpg

    • TampaDink

      Now you take that back, RIGHT NOW! Arnold Ziffle was beloved and smart.

      • AtticusP

        Yeah, but only after the lobotomy…

      • yes b’y
        • TampaDink

          That’s some pig! (Thank you, Charlotte!)

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      • Cuberly

        …he was cute too.

        • TampaDink

          So true…..and so unlike Kim.

    • AJ Drew

      There is so much to comment about in that photo… but shall we start with the wall “art?”

    • greenmanTN

      Guest starring Donald Trump as Mr Haney.

      Green Acres was really pretty surreal, but not as surreal as the US at the moment.

      • JWC

        what was the pigs name no not Donnie

        • greenmanTN

          Arnold, the smartest person on the show….

          FWIW, I often refer to the place I live as Hooterville. The nearest town is Bugtussle.

          • JWC

            hehe OK

          • TuuxKabin

            How far is Rooster Poop?

          • greenmanTN

            The bottom of my shoes…

          • TuuxKabin

            YOU are Hillaryous! So it’s closer than I thought. =;o)

    • JWC

      the new “American Gothic”??

    • KnownDonorDad
  • AJ Drew

    lolz, JMG’s tag: “People Whose Father Probably Killed JFK”

  • Adonisus

    Oh sweet mercyful Jesus…..Bernie is going to fucking murder Cruz on national television. It won’t even be fair.

  • Lazycrockett

    So McConnell just shut down Warren from reading Coretta Scott King on the Senate floor.

    • Bryan

      He’s insufferable.

      • Lazycrockett

        Must keep Sessions happy.

      • ByronK

        Top understatement for, well, this hour.

    • SoCalGal20

      Everybody after her should read that letter. That traitor has no right to shut fellow Senators down like that. What are you scared of, Mr. Turtle?

      • SoCalGal20

        Actually, instead of reading it, I’d blow it up poster size and put it on an easel so it’s easily read on tv.

    • Lazycrockett

      She just got impugned and can no longer speak on the floor tonight.

  • ByronK

    Angry grandfather yelling at his creepy son that no one can stand spending time with – for an hour. Life is too short for that sort of torture!

    • AJ Drew

      Yup. Bern needs to walk away and defend Warren, *now*.

  • Cuberly

    Politifact is doing a fact check play by play.

    Best warm up the Mostly False and Mostly True categories. Ted Lizardman Cruz sure does like his lies via omission.

  • kaydenpat

    No.

  • Michael R

    If Melissa McCarthy is playing both parts I’ll take a look .

  • Bryan

    I see Ted Cruz stocked up on jowls this winter.

  • AJ Drew

    SO, given that KellyAnn was Cruz’s spox before jumping ship to DT, how will she spin *this*?

  • Goggles

    Goddammit I somehow forgot what Ted Cruz’s voice sounded like.

    • Treant

      It’s a bit like Beaker on heroin.

  • JT

    Will Cruz even try to tell the truth after seeing the Nazi administration antics for 2 weeks?

  • Lazycrockett
  • Lazycrockett
    • Michael R

      Impeach McConnell ?

      • Xiao Ai

        War

    • AJ Drew

      This should be “fake news” but… grrr.

    • Bryan

      Sessions’ history on civil and voting rights is that egregious.

    • ByronK

      Warren coming right up on Maddow!!

    • Treant

      Wait…what?

    • Xiao Ai

      Why on Earth would she continue to address him as Majority Leader. He’s not. The Republicans intend to destroy America. Ipso Facto; they’re no longer a part of the Government. We have a right to Civil War. Grow some balls.

  • Yalma Cuder-Zicci

    Oh, man, I don’t know if I can do this. Cruz is just so awful he makes me nauseous.

    • ByronK

      I was trying to think of something that would make a sound more horrible to listen to then Cruz. Nope. I’ve got nothing.

  • Xiao Ai

    This really has become a reality show. I HATE reality shows.

  • worstcultever

    Antidote time, everybody – it’s a new Randy vid! Yay!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLaYDmJYE8k

  • Lazycrockett
    • AJ Drew

      a rebuke of Sessions, 30 years ago. Hrmm. GET WOKE, young’uns, it’s happening again…

  • Cuberly

    OT: Sad:( Richard Hatch passed away today. The original Apollo, that as a teen I had a huge crush on no less. Oh the lurid tales I spun in my head involving him and Starbuck…

    And yes, I loved the original Battlestar.

    RIP Apollo.

    ‘Battlestar Galactica’ actor Richard Hatch dies at 71
    http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/herocomplex/la-et-hc-richard-hatch-dies-20170207-story.html

    • AJ Drew

      Well… frak!

      • OdieDenCO

        felder carb!

        • AJ Drew

          Oh, I hate that I know this, but: one word. “feldercarb!” Crusty!

      • Guest

        Too bad he never got his remake of the campy Battlestar Galactica done. I have read they are trying to do that in the next year or so. I liked the premise of that show as a kid. The remake was cool as a darker version and both ways needed to be done. I had hope for Capicra too.

    • houstonray

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/998a4d292b7de782f578b51cac6aab3a9e18ca3bb3aed5b75361ca5895488628.jpg

      One of my childhood crushes when I understood what that meant…met him at a convention once, he was just the kindest, sweetest man who had time for every fan….RIP “Apollo”….

    • EdmondWherever

      71?? When the hell did that happen?

      • Cuberly

        Had the same reaction, Fuck I’m old!

    • WhiteJesus

      Wasn’t he on Survivor?

    • Brian in Valdosta

      And, of course, he joined the reboot of the series when it came to SciFi Channel, and I liked how he played his character.

      R.I.P. Richard ‘Apollo’ Hatch

    • Carl

      I knew him from the remake as Tom Zarek.

  • Guest666

    Sorry but I can look at that Cruz motherfucker for Linder than 30 seconds.

  • bkmn

    This is not the time to take our eyes off the Loser-in-Chief.

  • ByronK

    Don’t want it to get buried in a thread, Warren is coming right up on Maddow.

  • Lazycrockett
    • bkmn

      “Betsy gets an Education”

      • Treant

        That sounds like a straight porn. Which I do not want to see.

        • bkmn

          That is for Bitch McConnell. “Betsy’s Brown Highway” will be the late night feature.

          • Treant

            Ew.

    • Michael R
      • grada3784

        Duck and cover.
        Put your head between your legs
        and kiss your ass goodbye.

        Ah, the good old days!!!

  • Treant

    Skip. I can’t watch a fake has-been debate a fake wanna-be.

    I’d rather post photos of totally cool dogs.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d6ee663c6ab9756a19799bb92324154a107871922e6256abe94cde96c1fc5b65.jpg

    • Diomedes

      Keep voting for centrist Democrats, it’s what the people what, which is why Hillary’s the president. Oh wait.

      • Smithbc

        No, you’re right, people wanted Bernie sanders, that’s why he couldn’t even win the primary. So people chose the next closest thing to Bernie sanders, Donald Trump?

      • Treant

        Keep voting for radical folks who breeze into the Democratic Party three seconds before the Primary. That’s why Sanders was the Presidential candidate and universally beloved. Oh…wait.

  • Jim

    I would hit the link but I would hate to have to destroy my iPhone after that stinking, shit hole, Ted appears on it.

    • david fairfield

      I was really hoping never to have to look at that hideous piece of shit, and his ugly bigot face is everywhere today!

      • DJ John Bear

        He has the face of a common criminal

        • david fairfield

          He would SEETHE if he saw that comment. He is a BIG TIME criminal, and he wears that badge proudly. Good job on shaming him!

  • Whatever Cruz is saying about the UK NHS sounds like bullshit. When I lived there, my health care was just fine. Was it perfect? No. But why does the UK have a 2 year greater life expectancy than the USA and spend so much less on health care as a % of GNP?

  • Stuart Wyman-Cahall

    Cruz should be debating Hillary….so the Bernie or Busters would see how small and petty they are.

  • Yalma Cuder-Zicci

    I don’t know why this Texas woman was allowed a question. Wah! I only have five salons and I want more!!!! And because of Obamacare I can’t own more salons!!! Wah!!!

    • Bryan

      And Cruz never really answered the question asked by the lady diagnosed with cancer last year.

      • Yalma Cuder-Zicci

        Nope. I noticed that too. Too bad the moderators didn’t.

        • Bryan

          I hope she gets to keep her insurance.

  • Michael R
  • Yalma Cuder-Zicci

    They’re talking about death and cancer and ruined lives and lost jobs and hardships, and Cruz can’t keep himself from smiling.

  • Scribble Writer 🌹 ☭

    “Access doesn’t mean a damn thing if you can’t afford it”

    AMEN

  • Yalma Cuder-Zicci

    *Congratulations* on your struggles with MS?????? WTF?

  • Goggles

    Ted Cruz going back to his little binder again. Every time Bernie just slaps him when he walks back out.

  • JWC

    the GOP will pull some forgotten ruling and forcevitvthru

  • Ernest Endevor

    Cruz can tell us all about the great insurance policy he got for his family under the ACA then his wife lost her coverage at Goldman Sachs.

  • Goggles

    Did Ted Cruz just use “more cowbell!” as his closing statement?

  • billbear1961

    The conservative FASCIST right.

    Call it what it fucking IS!

  • Chuck in PA

    Healthcare Spending Accounts. Less regulation. Go across state lines. So, if I am having an emergency I should go online and find the hospital having a special on what I need done and the ambulance will take me there? And, if I can’t afford an MRI, but can afford a basic x-ray, the doctor will go by what he can see on that and still do the procedure? I guess all of the doctors who go to Puerto Rico to practice after they lose their license here can come back.

    • greenmanTN

      Maybe they’ll have coupons in the local paper?

      • Chuck in PA

        I have dealt with these evil accounts where I used to work. After the bills came I went to the hospital and negotiated a lower price. It is a game. Nothing is set in stone. But, these methods take up so much time, and, leave those with less time, education, and those who are meek to pay more.

        • greenmanTN

          That sliding scale business is pure BS. THIS is the amount your insurance will be billed. THIS much lower price is what you’ll be billed if you pay out of pocket… Oh, and forget about negotiating lower drug prices, because unlike every other country in the world we are very deeply invested in the research and development of pharmaceutical companies.

  • billbear1961
    • PeedeResistance

      Such a beautiful motet. I sang that many times on tour.

      • billbear1961

        Listen to this and tell me Christers like Cruz are Christians.

  • bill weber

    RIP Professor Irwin Corey, an anarchist-socialist to the end btw.

    On topic: He knew Who Woulda Won.

    • Funny creative man. Rest in peace and laughter.

  • JCF

    Sorry, my sock drawer beckoned. No, I COULD have been paid to watch this—w/ sufficient zeroes following the first digit. No, more zeroes than that…

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  • Piona O.

    I suppose I could actually discuss the issues. But no, I’d rather discuss what’s wrong with Ted Cruz’s nose. What’s wrong with Ted Cruz’s nose? It looks kinda like Michael Jackson’s, after his 15th rhinoplasty. And his eyebrows slant the wrong way.