Tony Perkins: I Remain Confident Trump Will Issue An Anti-LGBT Executive Order On “Religious Liberty”

CNBC reports:

A prominent conservative Christian leader on Tuesday expressed confidence that President Donald Trump will still take executive action to uphold “religious liberty” despite a White House statement that the president will uphold existing protections against “anti-LGBTQ workplace discrimination” by federal contractors. “I think this is going to be addressed,” said Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council. Proponents of “religious liberty” argue that religiously oriented workplaces should be allowed to consider a person’s sexual orientation in doing business.

Perkins said the statement does not preclude a new executive order protecting religious organizations from “having to change their views on human sexuality and marriage” while holding contracts with the federal government. Though he notes that he hasn’t “gotten complete clarity,” he said, “I have every confidence” that President Trump will act along the lines of a proposal offered previously by Republican Rep. Steve Russell of Oklahoma to exempt “any religious corporation, religious association, religious education institution or religious society” with a federal contract from Obama’s directive.

Multiple LGBT rights groups issued similar predictions earlier today.

  • HZ81

    We all are, Tony. No worries. I’m confident a 13 year-old hooker is removing her panties to shit on your chest tonight, too.

    But, that’s surely what Jesus would want.

    • jixter

      Nah, Tony Perkins is a homo.

      • NowVoyager

        You do know and accept that fact that the vast, vast majority of homophobes are heterosexual, don’t you? It is too easy to play the game of “oh, he’s a just another closet case” in order to shame heterosexual homophobes into being less homophobic. If you really think about it, that is using homosexuality as a pejorative — like it’s a bad thing. I’ve heard that kind of crap before when some people speculated that Adolf Hitler was actually a secret self-hating Jew trying to compensate for the “shame” of having a Semitic great grandparent, known only to his family, and that is why he murdered millions of Jews in Europe. Ludicrous, right? But there were some Nazis who did hide their German/Jewish mixed bloodlines. That was a very small minority, just as the number of homophobes who are “secretly gay”. As if someone can’t be a straight person and be an asshole bigot? What good does it do to “accuse” someone of being a self-hating “homo” just because there have been a very few notable exceptions to the fact that most homophobes are fucking STRAIGHT people. Let’s not give heterosexuals a pass on this, while demonizing gay people with another negative stereotype. This meme has got to stop.

        • Richard B

          au contraire, mon frère – though your point is well taken and certainly there are exceptions, but people that are secure with their sexuality do not obsess nor are threatened by what adult gay men do in bed. Many gay men in the closet, living a straight life, particularly those bound by their religions, are so skittish/terrified about others finding out, become excessively homophobic as a defensive posture so others don’t suspect them of being gay. You may disagree, but this phenomenon has been recognized and published in psychiatry journals.
          To your point, do we have straight homophobic enemies out there?
          The answer is yes. Hate is often contagious and a homophobic asshole can whip up a room full of people into a dangerous angry group.

          • NowVoyager

            I do not disagree that many closeted homosexuals can be filled with hatred towards the GLBT community as a form of resentment for the freedom of expression that many now in our community avail themselves of even in the face of societal disapproval. Guilt has a way of turning into hatred for others who are not so repressed. But I stand by my claim, as most sensible people would, that the vast majority of people who hate and fear homosexuals are not homosexual themselves. Some people, like many conservative politicians and pseudo religious leaders participate in that kind of bigotry for both power and financial gain. Others do it out of “group think” and the sense of power that comes from belonging to a mob.

            For example, all you have to do is look at the crowds which gather in many Muslim countries and see the glee in the eyes of the onlookers as Gay people are tossed off from rooftops and stoned by the crowds below. I doubt that most of the haters are homosexual, or even very many. In fact, I would wager that an astronomical number of those who wish to destroy the GLBT community are, in fact, heterosexual. Common sense and simple observation should inform most rational people to that tragic reality. Let’s try not to blow out of proportion the very small number of self-hating latent homosexuals in relationship to the much greater number of self-accepting homosexuals, and assign such power to them en masse.

            Furthermore, I would be very careful in outright accusing someone, without proof, as being a “closet-case self-hating homosexual” just because some high profile miscreant hates us. Statically speaking, the odds are against them being homosexual. Accusing our enemies of being “secretly gay” should not be used as a sledgehammer against everyone who hates us. It is demeaning to all gay people, especially when it is not true — it is actually a form of self-demonization. It’s like someone accused of witchcraft calling all of their accusers witches too. How does that make things better? If someone is both a homophobe and a closeted homosexual, then fine, call them out on their hypocrisy — just don’t make that a blanket indictment against every hater. It’s wrong and it also lets heterosexual haters off the hook.


        • jixter

          Nah, Tony Perkins is a homo.

  • Acronym Jim

    It feels really weird agreeing with Tony Perkins. I hope my hot water tank is full ’cause this is going to take a long shower.

  • Lazycrockett

    OMG I agree with Tony.

  • thom

    Uh Oh!
    News: Jerry Falwell Jr. will lead a federal task force on higher-ed policy, he said Tuesday:

  • another_steve

    So-called “religious liberty” is, as we all know, just a cover for license to discriminate. That said, it’ll be very very difficult for progressives to combat.

    The theofascists know that, which is why they’re running with it.

  • AtticusP
  • Oscarlating Wildely
    • another_steve

      There’s no question whatsoever that (with some notable exceptions) institutional religion is the single-most destructive force on Planet Earth. Anyone who reads a daily newspaper knows that.

      (Not to be confused with privately-held religious or spiritual belief, practiced without taxpayer subsidy.)

      • Brian Burleson

        The best thing you’ve added in days, imho. Spot on.

  • kcken

    “Must make the base happy” …

  • RichW

    I’ll bet that if I were to refuse to serve evangelicals because It is my closely held religious belief that they are evil and repugnant, they’d be suing and bursting blood vessels while screaming about persecution. What’s good for the goose …

    • another_steve

      Excellent point.

      And when the Orange Monster’s administration advances “religious liberty,” progressives should test your hypothesis.

      • Friday

        This is why we need to advance my Stop Calling Bills The Opposite Of What They Are Or Get Thumped Really Hard In The Head With A Rubber Tuna Act.

    • Todd20036

      Waiting for Muslims to refuse to serve food during the day during Ramadan.

      • Steverino

        And Muslim flight attendants to do the same, as well as refuse to serve alcoholic beverages anytime.

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      • DN

        There were the muslim cabbies at MSP who were refusing to pick up fares at the airport who were carrying alcohol (which is easy to spot when you’ve got a giant bottle sticking out of a heavy-duty plastic bag), but also refusing to take fares with SEEING EYE DOGS.

        You can be the people of America rallied around their religious freedom. Oh. Wait. no they didn’t – quite the opposite, in fact…

        • liondon#pay4dawall

          The whole point is to keep people in chaos while the treasury is raided.

    • DN

      I’m far too lazy at this hour to post a link, but I’m pretty sure that the government considers atheists a religion, at least insofar as ensuring religious protections. So, depending on your flavor of atheism, have at it?

      • jixter

        I’m pretty sure that you’re referring to H.R 1150, an amendment to the ‘Frank Wolf International Religious Freedom Act of 1998’ which includes people of faith and no faith as a protected class or group. If you’re “too lazy at this hour to post a link”, then I’m too hazy to do the same, DN – but I believe I’ve got the name right and somebody else can look it up, OK?

        • DN

          HA! Lazy of the world… meh…. 🙂

      • The problem is, having “no religion” is also the answer to not allowing religion into law. They see THAT as favoring atheists, agnostics and other non-believers unfairly. They see THAT as enshrining disbelief as a national “religion.” And though a non-clouded thinker can figure out that puzzle, mutton heads can’t! Very frustrating.

  • Christopher
    • another_steve

      I love “mum.”

      So exquisitely British.

      • ChrisMorley

        We also use ‘mummy’ which exquisitely gets under the skin of pretend-to-be big boys like Trumplethinskin.

        • another_steve

          “Mummy” doesn’t work for us yanks.

          When we hear “mummy,” we think of this.

          • Andymac3
          • jixter

            There are lots of little differences between American and British English usage. One of the big ones, for me, is how British English utilizes the word ‘scheme’ as a neutral descriptor while in the U.S, ‘scheme’ is always negative and, at least, borderline criminal.


            “The local council discussed the newly proposed housing scheme”


            “It was a scheme to lure him out of his house and then murder him.”

          • another_steve

            Yes. “Scheme” in American English definitely has somewhat “conniving, underhand” implications, whereas (as you say) it’s a neutral descriptor for Brits.

            There are some very stark differences in usage. “Bonnet,” for instance. For the British, the front of a car — what Americans call the car’s “hood.”

            Also “holiday,” the British equivalent of an American’s “vacation.”

          • Mikey

            Ann Coulter?

            Kellyanne Conjob?

          • David F.

            Before moisturizer, industrial spackle and sucking the soul out of an infant.

          • Mikey

            wish I could upvote you more than one. I needed the good laugh (bad news from my neurologist today).

    • Exatron

      Are we sure she didn’t?

  • Mike__in_Houston

    Oh, Miss Tonette, stick a dick in it already, would you?

  • margaretpoa

    And I remain fully confident that as Tony Perkins dies and his brain loses electrical potential, for a split second he’ll suffer the most crushing disappointment he’s ever experienced when he realizes his superstition is and always was just a fantasy based on Bronze Age campfire tales and that rather than going to some homo hating paradise with servile women and no brown people, he’ll be faced with oblivion.
    Wish there was some way I could savor that in real time.

    • Gest2016

      Oh I am more cynical than that. Tony Perkins is pure psychopath, and knows exactly what awaits him — a dirt nap in oblivion. And the sooner the better. He’s just out to harm as many humans as he can before his stroke.

      • NancyP


        • Richard B

          Tony is certainly all of that, but I still waiting for Karma to catch up with him and send a major bolt of lightning to hit a big tree and then have it fall directly on the hateful thing and put the world out of his misery..

  • Christopher
    • Sam_Handwich

      sounds more like a reporter who was near the live mic.

      • Christopher

        Most likely.

        Ryan would deny it anyway.

    • Todd20036

      This was on Huffingpost too. Yeah, Ryan is not pleased with the Drumpf.
      Tough. He voted for him

    • Kim K’s Kute Koochy✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      oh Paul, you suck Trum’s c*ck with that mouth???

      • jixter

        Wasn’t there a cookbook published sometime in the 80’s titled “You’ve Had Worse Things In Your Mouth!”? I seem to recall that somehow.

    • olandp

      Opioids are not smuggled across the borders fucker.

  • Michael

    He’s right. What Dishonest Donald has done is a bait and switch number. The Putin/Trump regime will either or both issue an EO giving anti-gay “Christians” the special right to discriminate or sign a Federal Law doing the same thing. What we have to make sure is that the Senate Dems never allow any of his SCOTUS nominees to get in power…ever…or else these “laws” become constitutional.

  • I’m not sure there’s such a thing as a “religious corporation”, but churches are already exempt from nondiscrimination laws. Which makes sense.

    The question is whether for-profit entities should be exempt from non-discrimination laws because of the beliefs of one of its owners or the board of directors.

    • djcoastermark

      The simple answer is NO. No way should discrimination be allowed. Where would it end? We have been through segregation before, we don’t need to go back to that age.

  • Mark

    Fascism. Next.

    • Richard B

      you nailed it !

  • BudClark

    And *I’m* sure Cthulhu will rise up from the underworld and eat Tony Perkins’ liver, if He can stomach it.

    • another_steve

      Even an ample serving of well-prepared sauteed onions would not improve that serving of liver.

      • Gianni

        It’s had too many years of accumulating a particular type of poison.

  • Friday

    Yeah, yeah, we know you Trumpublicans both lie and are determined to oppress us in your attempted rise to white supremacist Christofascism, Tony. You stay close to that Trump guy. We want you right there when he goes down.

  • vernacular100

    May the the pendulum swing back and cut his head off…Oh what the hell take his dick also off…if he has one…venting!

  • Richard B

    I am absolutely confident that the discriminatory body of work Tony Perkins and his harmful Family Research Counsel have accumulated to smite the LGBTQ has caught Karma’s eye, and when her reckoning occurs, Tony will have wished his father never caught him sucking off his best friend and scaring him into a lifelong career as a antigay crusader.

  • JWC

    whinning asshole

  • I do wonder what happened.

    I commented elsewhere last week that Log Cabin Republicans are such a joke that our only hope for any gay person having any sway in this administration is whoever does Ivanka’s hair. I wish that were a joke but it’s not. I wonder why he backed off rescinding Obama’s EO’s on gay discrimination. Could it be that Ivanka knows she will be spat upon wherever she goes if that happens? Or is he just dragging this out for extra drama. This is like being in a reality show. I hate reality shows, btw. Hate.

    • jixter

      I think that they floated that EO as a ‘teaser’, with no intention of ever formalizing it. At some point later on, they’ll offer up some kind of ‘religious liberty’ bill. The ‘teaser’ we’ve been talking about is merely a temporary ‘sop’ to his base.

      • You’re probably right. Republicans have been doing this a lot lately. Propose something horrible and then pass something not quite as bad and then pretend it was a compromise. So after the “religious liberties” bill right-wingers will be like “what are you faggots whining about. we didn’t take away your rights”. No, they’ll just be creating a loophole that includes all the discrimination against us because the argument against gay rights is entirely the religious one.

    • bobbleobble

      My personal view is that with all the protests going on over the ridiculous immigration EO they were loathe to go after another group and therefore make the protests worse. There’ll be something coming but they’re going to wait for a while.

      • They probably thought that after a big protest or two people would settle down and accept Trump as the status quo. That’s what happened under W after all. But it’s not happening. They also discount how quickly you can get a few thousand people to show up somewhere. All those flash mobs were just the dress rehearsal! This isn’t going away and could get worse depending on what happens next. This isn’t Occupy Wall Street which was poorly timed (they should have started in the spring not the fall so that they wouldn’t be freezing out there soon into the protest) and required too much commitment. We can mobilize thousands to be pretty much anywhere for at least long enough to get on the news. This is a nightmare for Republicans which is why they are so whiny about it.

  • Andymac3

    This Tony Perkins was a sexy gay man. The other Tony Perkins is a fucktard Norman Bates incarnate.

    • Mrs. Councillor Nugent

      Just watch out for the showers after the game

    • Richard B

      This picture is from a movie called Tall Story (1960). Tony Perkins (the movie star) is a breathtaking sight to behold in his very tight gym shorts that revealed all and left no doubt what he was popular with the other boys.

    • NowVoyager

      He was also Tab Hunter’s lover for a while. Both were cuties in the salad days of their youth.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    ….and I am confident LGBT’s will fuck you up when he does. The haters never learn and we will teach them the lesson again.

  • Gianni

    I normally try to not think of any of these creeps coming to undue harm of any sort. However, for whatever reason, I would not object to having this bastard fucked into a coma right after he drops into a gay bar to save some souls. He could sleep peacefully and dream of heaven and we wouldn’t have to listen to his shit anymore.

  • andrew

    If I am a Christian who believes Jesus when he says that divorce and remarriage is adultery, can i fire, on religious grounds, adulterers like Trump, Gingrich, Giuliani and similar “sinners” on the grounds that they violate my deeply held religious beliefs, that are clearly backed up by Jesus?

    • AJ Drew


      • Bad Tom

        Can we, as citizens of the United States of America, fire twice divorced Donald J. Trump?

        He violates my sincerely held beliefs against being a douchebag.

        • Max_1

          He’s nothing but a serial father…

          • Bad Tom

            If only he could meet Serial Mom.

  • Homo Erectus

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  • Schlukitz

    “Proponents of “religious liberty” argue that religiously oriented workplaces should be allowed to consider a person’s sexual orientation in doing business.”

    How would Tony feel if we were to say “Proponents of ‘atheism’ argue that atheist orientated workplaces should be allowed to consider a person’s religious orientation when doing business.”

    How about race?

    Skin color?

    Ethnic background?

    Political affiliation?


    Or any of a dozen reasons why he might feel that a workplace should be allowed to consider any of those reasons when doing business?

    • AJ Drew

      and that gay baker who refused to make a cake for a hetero marriage…. oh, that didn’t happen?

      • Schlukitz

        Considering the fact that LGBT people have never so much as lifted a finger to hurt the religious community, much less, refused to do business with folks who come from various religious persuasions, I am at a complete loss to understand where all of this hate comes from. And that includes the peyote-smoking, sheep herder assholes who wrote hate comments into the evil bible.

        Sadly, we are not the only ones who have been the target of religious hatred and discrimination. Blacks, Jews and other minority groups have also suffered at the hands of the religious fanatics who want to punish everyone who does not believe and live as they do.

  • coram nobis

    It’s an old tune, played on the same tired gramophone. Our predecessors recognized it for what it was.

    There are many who consider as an injury to themselves any conduct which they have a distaste for, and resent it as an outrage to their feelings; as a religious bigot, when charged with disregarding the religious feelings of others, has been known to retort that they disregard his feelings by persisting in their abominable worship or creed. But there is no parity between the feeling of a person for his own opinion and the feeling of another who is offended at his holding it, no more than between the desire of a thief to take a purse and the desire of the right owner to keep it.
    On Liberty, J.S. Mill

  • Chuck in NYC

    You haven’t gotten “complete clarity” about anything because you’re always on a lingering high from the fumes in your hair dye.

  • infmom

    That guy looks like he’s got a closet full of women’s underwear. His.

  • SDG

    And in time, I am confident god will take you in the rapture, realize, most of the way up that you are the biggest FUCKTARD in all Christendom… and let your body hurtle down to earth, where every bone in your body is broken, and you die… slowly. Whilst a team of LGBT paramedics say “The law says that I don’t have to treat you if it is against my religious beliefs”.

  • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

    And I remain confident that a plague of locusts will one day fly up your ass.

    • AJ Drew

      Well, I (and “we,” but I don’t want to assume, ha,) are responsible for hurricanes and tornadoes and whatnot, so… ok, next up is pointed entry locusts!

  • Tom G

    Pay-For-Play means he gets to do what he wants and you shut the fuck up – He gave you $100,000.

  • AJ Drew

    Fook ever seeing that TP guy again. If Bullet-necklace woman can start a non-profit [cough] to support DT and rage against “liberal media,” why can’t we do the same in opposition?

  • Max_1

    Then can my business refuse to serve those that walk the Christian “LIFESTYLE”?
    EDIT: Oh, how silly me… That’s called persecution.

  • david fairfield

    Somebody please drop a house on him. A nice brick mansion would be good.

  • Mark McGovern

    How would congressional passage of the Religious Freedom Bill impact the existing Executive Order?

  • It’s dismaying that no one on our side has come up with a pithy, fact-filled and easy to digest argument against these 100% bogus “religious freedom” laws. They approach the topic with “logic” that is 180 degrees from actual religious freedom, but contain enough truthiness to convince the rubes in a sentence or two. Why can’t we counter something so clearly wrong?

  • Tom (wpg)

    Evil SOBs think evil thoughts.

  • BudClark

    “A prominent conservative Christian leader” (in his own mind; nobody else’s) …

    I remain hopeful that Cthulhu will rise up from *dt’s swamp and eat Tony Perkins’ liver. I’ll even saute the bacon and onions for Him.

    • RepublicansRNotConservative

      He’s pretty much my view of Christians these days.

  • RepublicansRNotConservative

    How do Atheists and Agnostics form a religion so they can discriminate against people like Tony Perkins and his disgusting followers.

  • David F.

    You voted for a bigoted, racist, misogynistic pussy grabber Tony – you have no moral authority since you’ve sold your soul to Satan.

  • Barry William Teske

    Is that what sincere people of belief, who incite grevious harm and HATE towards others, all while maintaining a part of the process that see’s the inciter receive financial compensation for the behaviour?
    I was thinking criminal, but, by all means Tony PerKKKins, you have the floor…

  • Gregg Goodbrod

    WHY DO THEY CARE what other people do in their lives??? Who they love?? Who they marry?? They should mind their own damn business!!