Mary Tyler Moore Dies At Age 80

From the Hollywood Reporter:

Mary Tyler Moore, whose roles as a perky housewife on The Dick Van Dyke Show in the 1960s and as a spunky, single working woman in her eponymous ’70s sitcom made her America’s sweetheart, has died, her rep Mara Buxbaum confirmed to The Hollywood Reporter. She was 80.

Moore played opposite her TV persona and received an Oscar nomination for her performance as an icy mother struggling to connect with her son in Robert Redford’s best-picture winner Ordinary People (1980). The six-time Emmy Award winner had elective surgery in May 2012 to remove what is known as a meningioma, or benign tumor of the lining tissue of her brain.

Moore starred opposite Dick Van Duke as suburban stay-at-home mom Laura Petrie from 1961-66, then played Mary Richards — a hard-luck loser in love who moves across the state to Minneapolis and gets a job at local TV station WJM for the 6 o’clock news — from 1970-77. The latter represented a bold move for a series’ main character to be an independent, never-married woman, and Moore became an icon for the feminist movement.

  • ChrisInKansas

    So sad. There are very very few sitcoms better than The Dick Van Dyke Show and the Mary Tyler Moore Show. I know what I’m watching this afternoon. RIP.

  • Ninja0980

    RIP Mary, thanks for all the memories.

  • GayOldLady

    Always loved her. RIP MTM.

  • Tomcat

    If there was a god, Mary would be president and Trump would be dead.

    • Millstone

      I hate to bust your bubble, but you’re evidently unaware of her political views.

  • Baltimatt

    RIP

  • PickyPecker

    Who could turn the world on with her smile….indeed. 🙁
    https://i.imgflip.com/1icbwr.jpg

    • Joe in PA

      She is gorgeous.

    • CanuckDon

      Who can take a nothing day, and suddenly make it all seem worthwhile?

      Major sadness here. I’ve been watching re-runs weekday evenings this past year and made the realization that many of my life ideals came from watching the weekly antics of Mary Richards as a young boy. 🙁

      • Keiffer

        Mary Richards was transgendered? (Misplaced modifiers can be interesting.)

        • CanuckDon

          Yes….I guess I should watch where I put my modifier!

          • David Walker

            At least your participle wasn’t dangling.

          • Robincho

            From MY vantage point, it was dangling just fine… 😉

        • Steverino

          : )

          Like an earlier thread this morning in the rant from the former Breitbart editor: “…barefaced lies about YouTube videos killing four Americans in Benghazi…”

          Of course sometimes I have almost died of laughter watching YouTube videos…

      • David Walker

        She was a role model. We were both starting out in TV, no training in the field, not much luck with men, threw terrible parties, and this guy just watched and laughed and knew what she was going through. I think I never missed a Saturday night with a new episode.

        • CanuckDon

          Her awkwardness and hesitation for confrontation…I think so many of us could relate.

          I recently saw the episode where she was seriously involved with her boyfriend played by Ted Bissell. I started sobbing halfway through it realizing that my unachieveable ideals of love and romance could be traced to that particular episode….but it was still beautiful to watch.

      • e’ville_globeguy

        Me, too. Plus, I just knew that it was just a matter of time before I had my OWN sunken-livingroom-attic apartment to make my own, and I’d have my own Rhoda next door.

        • BlueberriesForMe

          Rhoda had such a small place but she sure did a lot with it.

  • Lawerence Collins

    Who could turn the world on with her smile. Who could take a nothing day and make it seem worthwhile. Love is all around….
    😳😕🙁😖😫

  • Butch

    I remember both series very well. RIP Mary.

  • Gay Fordham Prep Grad

    It’s a long, long way to Tipperary, it’s a long way to go….

    (meow)

    • David Walker

      Dammit. I was coping…you know, sad, sorry…and you made it as final as that did on the series. Thank you, damn you, and glad you are here.

  • CharlestonDave

    “You can’t be brave if you’ve only had wonderful things happen to you.”

    —Mary Tyler Moore

  • Goddamit. I thought we left 2016 24 days ago — shit.

    • djfinance

      I know, I’m sad too. We’re always going to have celebrities and good people pass from our lives. The changing of the calendar can do nothing to stop that.

      • JR

        And as we move into being “of a certain age”, sadly it is going to happen more often to the people we grew up watching.

        • JCF

          Yup. Geez, has Joe computed the average age around this place lately? I get the feeling we’re becoming the long-in-the-tooth brigade…

  • Gene

    RIP…classy and funny lady. Heaven just became a funnier place

  • AtticusP

    This one really hurts!

    Thanks for all the laughter.

  • Pollos Hermanos

    Very sad. R.I.P. Mary Tyler Moore.

    https://youtu.be/e4tkLy9AaD4

    • JDS

      This was used in the movie Drop Dead Gorgeous.

    • JCF

      This is the rock version I know.

  • Boreal
    • Nicole Barth:

      Mary is who you wish you were.
      Rhoda is who you probably are.
      And Phyllis is who you’re afraid you’ll become.

      • Robincho

        You can just back offa my Clorine Bleachman, bub…

        • Chloris was one of the first actors cast on that show. They had a hard time finding a Rhoda, but they knew they had a Phyllis early on. She must have really nailed her auditions because before that she was known for things like Lassie. She missed quite a few episodes in the first season though because she was off filming The Last Picture Show for which she won and deserved an Academy Award. (The only other tv series regular to win an Oscar was Helen Hunt over 25 years later.) Also, many other cast members have pointed out that Chloris was easily the funniest cast member making other people crack up and blow their lines. Rewatch bits like her birth of a flower interpretive dance. Note that you can’t see Mary and Rhoda while she’s doing that. They are on the floor laughing at something the characters aren’t supposed to think is funny.

          One more thing about MTM. Maybe she was smart while on the Dick Van Dyke Show and noticed that the producers made sure that all the characters had good story lines and the DVD himself didn’t get annoyed when Sally was featured or Millie and Jerry or whatever. That good actors all need good writing. MTM is great because it’s not ALL about Mary. Yes, she’s the star, but there are great story lines for Rhoda, Phyllis, Ted, Lou, Sue Ann, Murray, etc. They all shine and quite a few won Emmys. A number of stars *cough*CybillShephard*cough* have ruined their own show by being jealous of breakout stars on their own show. Not Mary. She was very smart and that ensemble writing and acting is one of the reasons the show remains popular and beloved.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    OMG! That is really sad. I liked her. I’ve had the pleasure of meeting her on a number of occasions because of strong support for animals.

    2017 is already starting off to suck worse than 2016 because of Trump and now this.

    R.I.P.

  • Lumpy Gaga

    “Dick van Duke”?

    Keep it TOGETHER, Hollywood Reporter!

    • Robincho

      “Dick Van Dyke” is so much catchier than “Penis Van Lesbian”…

  • Brooklyn Joe

    RIP Mary – not that’s really sad

  • Lumpy Gaga

    Oh, Rob!

  • PickyPecker
    • kelven

      An amazing film, one of the first to showcase just how good comedians could be at dramatic roles.

    • JR

      She was incredible in Ordinary People.

      One of my all time favorite movies.

    • JR

      This opening still gives me chills.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b25utpKYrBs

    • Cuberly

      Ugh! That switch in gears just gives me the chills (shudder). She did such an amazing job in that.

    • David Walker

      She was so Not Mary in this, and it’s what she needed. You get stuck being America’s sweetheart. An actor needs to act, and she nailed this.

      • e’ville_globeguy

        Yup. I couldn’t believe that MTM could actually make me hate a character she was playing.

  • LovesIrony

    she had class and spunk

    • S1AMER

      And we all know what Lou Grant thought about spunk!

    • TampaDink

      I LOVE spunk! Mr. Grant did not.

      • David Walker

        Then again, he was straight. What did he know from spunk?

        • TampaDink

          I’m not entirely sure, but I suspect that even (some) straight men provide spunk….at least that is how I think I was conceived. LOL

          • Lars Littlefield

            My father, may he rest in peace, was almost a dead ringer for Ed Asner. So much so that strangers were always asking him for his autograph.

          • TampaDink

            I’m sure that your dad had spunk…..and that he was nice to his many fans.

          • Lars Littlefield

            In all seriousness, he and my mother were on vacation in Hawaii in 1971. He’d climbed into a abandoned grocery cart and convinced my mother to push him across the street with all of their paraphernalia to sun at the beach. They got busted by a cop. The cop got angry because he didn’t admit to being Ed Asner. Dad got a ticket.

          • TampaDink

            Great story, Lars! Your parents must have been amazing.

  • glass
    • Skokieguy [Larry]

      I have heard its a tradition to either throw your hat up in the air or jump next to the statue to try and ‘catch’ her hat.

      When I visited Minneapolis, I took a photo (don’t have anymore) in a crouch, running by, as if I was going to snatch her purse.

      Mary – I’m sorry!

  • S1AMER

    Her show was part of one of the great evenings ever on network television.

    She and her entire cast were delightful. Every now and again I catch an old episode on tV, and am laughing along and enjoying it all over again.

    Thanks, Mary!

  • SoCalGal20

    Very sad news. My mom and I used to watch the Mary Tyler Moore Show together. I was already hating you, 2017. *sigh*

  • Jean-Marc in Canada
    • Oh’behr

      Ah, thanks for posting the kitten. That’s what I also thought about her show. The kitten at the very end.

      • JCF

        It was such a clever logo (playing off the MGM lion).

  • Jeffg166

    Truly sad news. The show brought me lots of laughs over the years it was on.

  • Millstone

    She played wonderful characters and had a few meaty roles. There’s probably already a shrine at her statue on Nicollet Mall in downtown Minneapolis.

    Hated to know she was a big fan of FOX News and Bill O’Reilly, that she claimed she was “recruited” by Steinem though she disagreed with feminism, and “would have campaigned for McCain” if he’d asked.

    Nice obit in the Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/arts/television/mary-tyler-moore-dead.html?action=Click&contentCollection=BreakingNews&contentID=64838835&pgtype=Homepage

  • another_steve

    You had to be there in the 60s and 70s to appreciate the significance of her TV portrayals.

    She was one of the early female sitcom stars portrayed as other than totally ditsy or subservient to men.

    • CPT_Doom

      She gets so many props for her quietly feminist Mary Richards, but Laura Petrie was almost as groundbreaking – a housewife who was an equal partner and just as funny/talented as her TV husband.

      • clay

        “Oh, Rob!”

        • David Walker

          “Oh, Mister Grant!”

      • Villager

        Moore & Van Dyke were a great comedy team.

      • Reality.Bites

        As opposed to one who was clearly funnier and more talented (Lucy).

      • Only someone with her dance background could have kept up with Dick Van Dyke. She’s really stunning in those and quite young.

    • JWC

      her earliest performances were a dancing pixie in an ad for some thing and early televison (BW) had a detecrive show about a Richard diamond always started with his Secretary sitting on a desk. You never saw her face Only her legs and sultry voice That was very early MTM

  • Ninja0980

    Sad to say but given her quality of life at the end, it’s a blessing in a way.
    She is finally free from pain.

  • LovesIrony

    Once, my husband fell down the restaurant stairs (Momma Leone’s I think) right on top of her. She was ever so sweet.

  • JoeMyGod
    • JoeMyGod

      The late great Manhattan nightclub Twilo (1995 to 2001) took its name from that Dick Van Dyke episode.

    • Oh, Parker

      Best episode ever.

  • Dave604

    This is what it takes to make me cry.

  • The Sentinel

    Mary was a Republican which I loathed but a helluva actress. She was well known to be quite rude to fans who dared approach her but I couldn’t resist when I spotted her walking her dog on the upper east side of Manhattan about a decade ago. I said a brief hello and told her she deserved an Academy Award for ORDINARY PEOPLE. She smiled and I made a hasty exit. https://youtu.be/aBWppqzPXfg

    • PickyPecker

      A phenomenal performance. A heartwrenching film always well worth seeing.

      • SFBruce

        It certainly was. A completely different characcter from Mary Richards.

        • CPT_Doom

          And much different than the book. I had no sympathy for Beth in the book, but she’s a character in so much pain in the movie, by the end you really feel for her. Having lost her only child to a stupid gun accident just before she filmed it clearly gave her a real, but devastating, insight to the character.

      • The Sentinel
        • Derrick Johns

          She was fantastic in Redford’s movie. It was nothing we’d ever seen from her before.

    • Jeffg166

      Everyone feels like they know them. I can see it getting old eventually.

      • David Walker

        Jean Stapleton said one reason she left “All in the Family” was that people would come up to her and call her Ding Bat.

        • Derrick Johns

          That’s horrible. Jean Stapleton was a fine Broadway actress before she became a TV star.

          How can people be so stupid. Don’t answer that. We have a bunch of them in Philly today. The Republicans are having a “retreat”. And guess who’s the main attraction. That pot bellied hog blocked up Center City traffic all morning. I can’t stand that man.

          • David Walker

            The pope is back?

    • Cuberly

      That performance was one for the ages. Yeah, she was robbed of an Oscar, but she was also in an extraordinarily well crafted film.

      • Brian in Valdosta

        She did win the Golden Globe that year for her role in this film, so that’s something. I’d say recognition equal to an Oscar.

        • Robincho

          Golden Globes generally supersede Oscars in importance. Think Brokeback Mountain and a hundred others…

    • another_steve

      She was a moderate-centrist who with the passing of the years tended to drift toward the Dark Side.

      That said, she did important charity and animal rights work during her lifetime.

      • David Walker

        And is anyone perfect?

        • Lumpy Gaga

          Rose Marie

          • Robincho

            He meant anyone OTHER than Sally, of course…

    • Brian in Valdosta

      You are right, she did deserve an Academy Award for that performance. Such a departure for her, considering her TV show characters.

      The movie was doubling touching (even chilling) for me because my parents were going through a split-up at the same time the film came out. Hearing the very strained way that the mother (Mary) and her living son (Timothy Hutton) talk to each other made me squirm in my seat. It was like watching my own mother (with whom I am very close) and my older (asshole) brother try to communicate.

      I may have to watch this film again this weekend, for old time sake.

    • Vista-Cruiser

      I often think of Buck and Conrad while sailing my small boat on Lake Michigan.

  • bambinoitaliano

    A lot of great actors and entertainers came out during our life time are nearing the edge of their mortality. I’m wondering 10 -15 years from now the current great and new crops of entertainers will have such cultural impact when the peers of Mary Tyler Moore leaving us one by one in the next few years.

    • another_steve

      I’m bracing myself re two performers in particular: Tony Bennett and Joni Mitchell.

      I’ll be a total wreck.

      Total.

      • Add Carol Burnett to that list.

        • Jeffg166

          Carol says no thank you.

        • another_steve

          Don’t get me started, boyfriend.

          Mick Jagger.

          Life without Mick Jagger? Impossible.

        • Cuberly

          Oh gawd…don’t even go there!

      • I have the unrealistic opinion that Tony Bennett is gonna go on forever.

        Listened to the Christmas duet between Bowie and Bing Crosby the other day. Oh, those damn onions ……

        When did everybody get old? (Including me!!??)

        • Lars Littlefield

          Tony Bennet and Lady Gaga have done some killer recordings.

        • another_steve

          I loved the partnership between Tony Bennett and Lady Gaga. I thought that was quite wonderful.

          Through his association with her, he was introduced to a generation of music lovers who might not have been familiar with his artistry. For Lady Gaga (a spectacularly talented singer), her partnering with Bennett conferred upon her a certain “cachet,” if you will. Association with an artist-genius can do that, for a performer.

          Win-win, for both of them.

      • ChrisInKansas

        And Mary’s costars DIck Van Dyke, Rose Marie and Ed Asner are all at the 90 year old mark. 😕

        • Oh’behr

          Thanks, I hate to even say it. I didn’t know Rose Marie was still alive. I’m glad she is and I hope she is doing well.

      • fuzzybits
        • another_steve

          Thanks for the update on Joni. Much appreciated.

          She’s had a tough few years, health-wise. She suffers (or suffered) from a perceived skin disorder called Morgellons syndrome. Most medical professionals consider it a delusional/psychological condition, but for those so-afflicted, it can be debilitating. Then the brain aneurysm.

          Glad she’s active again.

    • boobert

      Doris Day is getting up there too !

      • Lars Littlefield

        Doris Day is 94 and hiding in Carmel by the Sea. Five years ago it was still possible to catch her at the farmers market on Saturdays. But she’s pretty much a complete recluse these days. Sad, too. Despite her antiseptic clean non sexual persona, she has a remarkable voice.

    • David Walker

      The remarkable thing is that even the current generation at least “knows of” her. I don’t know if I’d even know the actors/singers/performers who will be dying off 10-15 years from now, which is MY problem. That young people know about Mary Richards AND Mary Tyler Moore speaks tons for her.

      • bambinoitaliano

        True. We are bombarded with social media of faces of mundane news about celebrities that are more scandalous than actual advertisement of great work. When the old Hollywood studios created the Star system, they control the news and mostly focus on the publicity related to their film productions. These days everyone with a computer and social media accounts could create their own celebrity status by imitation and duplication, taking away the attention span of audiences from legitimate artists. One have to sift through a pile of garbage to find a rare gem.

        • David Walker

          And I wouldn’t be surprised if Betty White doesn’t have a lot to do with that. She came on as Sue Anne Niven and was on for a lot of seasons. I think young people who still fall under Betty’s spell do a little research on her, see what else Betty has done, and they come upon the MTM show. So, hooray for Betty, too.

          • Lars Littlefield

            When I was very young Betty White had a chat show called The Betty White Show on KALC in Los Angeles. There wasn’t much to watch in 1950 as far a local programming and Betty appeared for most of the morning until 2:00 PM doing live TV all by herself. She’s my first TV crush.

  • SFBruce

    Very sad. I remember very well Saturday nights with MTM, MASH, Bob Newhart and All in the Family. RIP.

  • Tawdry D’Tails

    The chuckles the clown episode of her show has to be one of the funniest, punniest episodes of tv ever… And the pay-off at the end… OMG it still makes me laugh!

  • Uncle Mark
  • JoeMyGod
    • JoeMyGod

      My first visit to Minneapolis in 2004.

      • PickyPecker

        Joe, you have a typo in the thread headline, FYI.

        • Joe in PA

          Picky, picky, picky. 🙂 Good eye, I had to look twice to find it. 🙂

        • JoeMyGod

          D’oh!

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      • Michael Abbett

        I still want to go there and do this!

        • Oh’behr

          Oh, it’s now not there. The Nicollet Mall is being renovated and won’t be reopened until (I believe) the winter of 2018. In time for the Super Bowl.

          http://www.nicolletmallproject.com/

          Where is it now:

          Inside at the corner of 5th Street (near the light rail station) and Nicollet Mall.

          http://www.fox9.com/news/231710113-story

          • Michael Abbett

            Thanks for the info. We might have to stop by there before our move west.

    • Hi Joe – Typo alert!

      It’s Dick Van Dyke, not Duke.

      She will be missed.

    • DumbHairyApe

      I would enjoy your pose better if you were naked.

      • Oh’behr

        or something risque.

  • David

    “A little song, a little dance. A little seltzer down your pants”.

    • amandagirl15701

      I just said this to my daughter yesterday. She had no idea what I was talking about and I had to show her.

    • M Jackson

      He was dressed as a giant peanut and an elephant tried to shell him.

    • JCF

      {Mary unable to restrain laughing at Chuckles the Clown’s funeral}

      Reverend: “It’s OK. Chuckles would want you to laugh. Laugh, laugh at Chuckles the Clown!”

      {Mary cries}

  • Lumpy Gaga
    • JCF

      She only outlived him by 40 years…

  • HZ81

    Aw, I am so sad. I adored her. Absolutely adored her. I was just thinking about watching Ordinary People the other day.

    Will miss you, Mary.

  • Rex

    Nooooooooooooooo
    Hey, 2017, a word….

  • JoeMyGod

    Gay Minneapolis rock god Bob Mould pays tribute to MTM at most of his shows.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mEDm81zy-0

    • CanuckDon

      I’ve been looking for a good club remix of this song for a few years. There’s one online but it’s a bit too clumsy.

    • William

      July 1986, I moved from Texas to Minnesota. Somewhere in Iowa I cued up a tape to have ready for crossing the border. As soon as I crossed the Minnesota state line, I popped the cassette into the car stereo.

      https://youtu.be/zFyy3XB_3Y4

      • Oh’behr

        Strange, the IDS Center doesn’t look any different years later and though Investors Diversified Services, Inc. no longer exists under that name, various owners have kept the building’s original same name rather than calling it by the new company or new building owner’s name or names.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IDS_Center

        Because of the IDS Center’s peculiar and unique stepback design, termed “zogs” by its architect, Philip Johnson, each floor has up to 32 corner offices. The area of Nicollet Mall in front of the IDS Center is familiar to television viewers: The character of Mary Richards on “The Mary Tyler Moore Show” was seen on Nicollet Mall looking at an IDS shop in the opening montage of the series. Across 7th Street from the IDS was Donaldson’s Department Store in front of which she tossed her hat in the air at the end of the opening sequence. A statue commemorating that shot stands kitty-corner from the view, created and maintained by TVLand.[2] She is also seen in the show opening dining with then-husband Grant Tinker at what is now the terrace of Basil’s Restaurant on the hotel’s third floor overlooking the Crystal Court, where diners can sit at the “Mary Tyler Moore Table.”

        • William

          The name is as much of a landmark as the building.

          The Dayton’s department store is briefly seen In some early season opening credits. That was a beautiful building. When I was there the interior was undergoing a major renovation. Bad 60s and 70s remodels were being ripped out, revealing the original structure. Now that Macy’s has sold the building, it will probably be turned into condos.

      • Vista-Cruiser

        Minnesota must have seemed so much better. Hope you never had to return to Texas.

  • Rex

    This is going to bring tears.
    She’s the only woman that could wear capri pants and look good in them.

  • David From Canada

    Goodbye Mary!
    Used to watch her on T.V. every Saturday night.
    And to think that Valerie Harper(Rhoda) and Betty White(Sue Ann Nivens) have outlived her. Life works in mysterious ways.

    • Rob NYNY

      And Ed Asner and Cloris Leachman.

  • AtticusP
    • Ernest Endevor

      Let’s not forget this.
      https://youtu.be/2QCscAHrhfM

      • Cuberly
      • Joe in PA

        We rented that movie recently (I’d not seen it) after watching a high school production of the play. We liked the play much more. Hmmm. [not to take anything away from the actresses!]

        • Rob NYNY

          I would have reversed the casting of MTM and Julie Andrews, and the finale is much too long, but there is lot to like in the movie

    • JCF

      She’s So SMOKIN’ HOT here. As one of you guys once said (about some hairy dude or other ;-p), “I would bang her like a screen door in a tornado!” 😉

      RIP, Mary. Always love you…

  • Rebecca Gardner

    Oh man. Butch Trucks has died too.

    https://youtu.be/1lSf3kdao6o

    • PickyPecker

      aw, man.

  • TampaDink

    Oh ROB!

    • JCF

      Oh Mister Grant!

      • TampaDink

        🙁 She’ll be missed.

  • PickyPecker
    • JCF

      “I need a tissue”

      “There’s some on Mary’s desk”

      Group scootch-scootch-scootch…

  • David Walker

    This one hurts. Drumpf is alive, Mary’s dead. Life is so unfair sometimes, but god she was good. I still watch some of the MTM shows on YouTube. They still hold up, for the most part. And I’ll never forget her interview with Mr. Grant.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etyO7T6WGwU

    • The Sentinel

      “Presbyterian.”

  • David From Canada

    For at least the first year on her sitcom, The Mary Tyler Moore Show, the producers made her wear a long wig so as not to be confused with Laura Petrie with the short hairstyle on The Dick Van Dyke Show.

    • Joe in PA

      Interesting, I didn’t know that. And I thought she looked much better with the shorter hair. After she moved in to her new “luxury” apartment. But she kept that “M” on the wall. 🙂

      • PickyPecker

        Cedar Square west. yeesh.

        • Joe in PA

          What is that? The name of her apartment? Who knew it had a name. 🙂

          • PickyPecker

            ugly cement apartment complex on the West Bank, Mpls. I had friends that lived in it when I went to school at the UofM. Total dump.

          • Joe in PA

            Wow, I never knew any of that. The “West Bank” was populated by all those UofM “hippies” right?

            And what a far cry from the attic she lived in…the house was in Lake of the Isles or something? Beautiful neighborhood…driving around in her 1970 Mustang. 🙂

          • PickyPecker

            West Bank was more ‘artsy,’ yes. Some decent bars at 7 Corners.
            The house they chose for the show is in a neighborhood known as Kenwood. Very nice neighborhood. A bit of a walk from Lake of the Isles from that house. You could tell by looking at the house when you stood on the front walk there was NO WAY there was any sort of apartment on the 3rd floor. 🙂

          • Joe in PA

            [fingers in ears] nanananananan … I don’t want to hear any of this…and on the day she died you are desecrating her memory by bursting all of my bubbles about the show. First the fake hair, then the locales, I bet you’ll tell me next that Rhoda didn’t actually live next door.

            [turns on heel]

          • Lumpy Gaga

            [whispering]
            Let him go. It’s best this way. It’d break his little heart.

          • Joe in PA

            Pssst: thank you for not making fun of my original spelling of “Aisles”. Oops.

          • Millstone

            I lived there when I was in college, but in the 39 story McKnight tower. It had 3 elevators (and no freight elevator), so it would often take 5 minutes for the elevator to show up. The complex was semi-dangerous and became known as the “Crack Stacks” shortly after I moved.

            Now the entire neighborhood is Somali.

          • Millstone

            As I recall, the owners of the Lake of the Isles house fenced it off because of sightseers and people swinging into the driveway with a bucket of soapy water and a sponge for a photo.

    • Texndoc

      She was also written initially as a divorcee and the network said “No way. The audience will think she divorced Rob.”

    • David Walker

      xx

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Oh, Mr. Grant.

  • Sam_Handwich
    • MB

      Mary’s son Richard Carleton “Richie” Meeker, Jr.
      He died of s self- inflicted gunshot wound in 1980, age 24.

      https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/find-a-grave-prod/photos/2005/128/10932129_111562503818.jpg

      • JCF

        So tragic.

    • Johnny Wyeknot

      That was an extraordinary movie.

    • Hue-Man

      Even though I’ve watched it several times over the years, there’s something about the performances of the three family members that makes we want to watch it again. I’m not a sadist – it reminds me that we all process loss and grief differently.

  • MB
  • CPT_Doom

    Interesting piece of trivia. Moore was diagnosed as an adult with Type 1 diabetes, which is an incredibly rare occurrence. She only found out after a miscarriage. At the time of her diagnosis, she had the highest recorded blood sugar level ever seen in a non-comatose patient. Had she not been a dancer and in fantastic shape, she likely would have died then.

  • M Jackson

    Whether opening Rob’s packages or attending the funeral of Chuckles The Clown or having an emotional melt-down on a golf course in Houston, she was one-of-a-kind and one of the very greatest. Thanks for everything, Mare, you gave us all so much.

    https://susanjanejewels.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/empress-carlottas-necklace-dick-van-dyke-mary-tyler-moore.png

  • Villager

    RIP. Loved Mary Tyler Moore especially her role as Laura Petrie
    on the Dick Van Dyke show. That show was huge when I was a kid.

  • Gustav2

    Tell the truth. How many eldergays thought their first apartment would look like Mary’s, but it ended up looking worse than Rhoda’s?

    • PickyPecker

      Rhoda’s was a friggin palace compared to my first place. LOL

      • Joe in PA

        Those beads can really dress up a place, eh?

        • PickyPecker

          No beads, but the beanbag chair added a nice touch. Milk crates, etc.

          • Joe in PA

            Cinderblocs and boards for shelving units?

          • PickyPecker

            Oh, so it WAS you with the binoculars in the building next door. Prevert!

          • Joe in PA

            No perving…just excellent taste. 🙂

          • Gay Fordham Prep Grad

            He said you were preverting…not perverting. There is a difference. Preverting is much worse. Just ask Gloria.

          • Tom Ato

            And a director’s chair for comfortable lounging.

          • Gustav2

            One squeeky wicker chair. I think it was made of a thicker “rush.” If you inhaled deeply, it notified the whole room.

          • David Walker

            So you had the thicker wicker.

          • TexasBoy

            I loved beanbag chairs. Now I probably would never be able to get up out of one.

    • Joe in PA

      Guilty! My first place was at 24 1/2 Mount Vernon St in Newport RI. It actually WAS an attic.

    • Joe in PA

      Hey wait a sec, who ya calling “eldergay”? 🙂

    • e’ville_globeguy

      I just posted above about wanting that sunken living room while fantasizing about my first place.

    • Rhoda’s place was huge compared to my first NYC apartment.

    • Ander
  • Johnny Wyeknot

    Capri pants. 🙂

    • Joe in PA

      Sorry Johnny…but your new avatar made me do it…channelling you inner KellyAnne:

      [ducking] https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1a4d96971ed105c9a9cb73bb2035fa921a6fa4a965079b118708163b26d76553.png

      • MB

        The other Kellyanne, ca. 1998

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKFUL_dksUA

        • Joe in PA

          It’s too bad she didn’t quit her day job. 🙁

        • Oh’behr

          It is sacrilege to even have Con-way in a MTM post.

      • Johnny Wyeknot

        OMG!!!!

      • Lumpy Gaga

        WHERE ARE TEH EMAILS?

      • Johnny Wyeknot

        Now look what you made me do!

        • Joe in PA

          Stunning. 🙂 Side bar: I was staying with a friend in DC for the march…when he (a not particularly clued-in politically person) said after he saw KellyAnne’s get up: “she looks like she should be carrying a drum”. #hahahahaha

  • justmeeeee

    Nothing El Cheeto does will matter now; my reason for living is gone.

    • Vista-Cruiser

      Please keep on keepin’ on. Life is better in many other countries, even though we don’t get to live there.

  • FancyThat
  • dcurlee

    😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

    • M Jackson

      There just are not enough.

  • Damn. One of my favorite all-time personalities, in entertainment and social involvement.

    Any remarks yet from her various co-stars? I just learned of this sad event about an hour ago.

    Jake
    PHX
    SFExPat

  • Bert_Bauer

    Little did I know that every Saturday night when I tuned in to see the fabulous Mary Richards make her way in the world, that there lots of other young gay boys like me taking inspiration in her journey. Because of Mary Richards, I worked in tv (briefly) and moved to the big city (San Francisco, not Minneapolis … brrr).

    Thanks, Mair … you showed the best that tv can be.

  • David Walker

    There were so many good, funny, hilarious episodes, but I agree with Joe about highlighting “Chuckles Bites the Dust.” Watch, enjoy, and then watch the other clip with the producer talking about the episode and paying Mary the highest honor.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihLJrcS8lsg
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhPjjOK4nAQ

    • William

      Mary checking her hair in the mirrors on Sue Anne’s bedroom ceiling.

      • M Jackson

        And secretly trying out the vibrating bed. One of the funniest episodes.

  • fuzzybits
  • David From Canada

    Mary stated that she got her inspiration for her show from Marlo Thomas who played an independent, single woman on her series, That Girl. Times were changing and Mary and Marlo ran with it.

    • Rob NYNY

      One of the theories about Murphy Brown is that it reimagined Mary Richards after she got out of drug and alcohol rehab. Seems plausible.

      • William

        Mary never would have faxed her chest coast to coast.

  • Thoroughly Modern Mary (and Julie and Carol). Suddenly wondering why I don’t have “Flirting With Disaster” on DVD. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/035d5750a5812e599e4f217af6cfefc99e24877023c569c080d604cf53209dfc.jpg

    • Lars Littlefield

      And Channing is still kicking! A marvel.

  • SJWinCMH

    She was this little gay boy’s first crush.

    • M Jackson

      (Stephanie Powers in Girl From U.N.C.L.E.)

  • Bert_Bauer

    She was always great in The Dick Van Dyke Show but the standouts are the classic “It May Look Like a Walnut”, “Coast-to-Coast Big Mouth” (where Laura reveals on a tv game show that Alan Brady is bald), “October Eve” (where an old provocative “interpretive” painting of Laura shows up in a Midtown art gallery), “The Life and Love of Joe Coogan” (where Rob runs into one of Laura’s old flames), and “Long Night’s Journey Into Day” (where Laura spends the night in the house alone).

    • sfbob

      I guess I’m just old enough that will always associate her with the Dick Van Dyke Show, which my folks and I watched together when I was a kid. By the time her show appeared I was already into my phase of not owning a television so I never really related to the MTM Show that much. Liked it when I watched it but that didn’t happen very often.

      I felt, after watching her in Ordinary People that I could never again see her as Laura Petrie. I had an emotional reaction to her performance, probably because it was so powerful. I found the movie profoundly disturbing.

    • Texndoc

      I love two the best: the night alone in the house (with Millie eventually) and the one where Rob writes the skit about the nosy housewife and she thinks everyone thinks it’s her, as the character was named “Laura”. Remember the package arrives (like in the skit), “Laura” tries to stay away from it, finally she tears into it and a huge inflatable boat appears…

      • Bert_Bauer

        “Honey, did a package come for me today?” LOL

        I forgot about a two-parter: “Laura’s Little Lie” and “Very Old Shoes, Very Old Rice” where Rob finds out lied about her age when they got married, so they have to make it legal for real and get married.

  • Spongebob CrankyPants

    Well, damn.

  • DaddyRay

    I will not cry in the office, I will not cry in the office, I am crying in the office 😢

    • carrot festival

      Scwewy wabbit gives the big sad bear a big bunneh hug.

  • Mark

    So so sad!!!!

  • Lars Littlefield

    I could have gone another 11 months without hearing this news. RIP Mary. Is there going to be a memorial service in New Rochelle, NY?

    Something I did not know is that she was a heavy drinker/alcoholic and entered the Betty Ford Clinic to dry out. Tough disease to fight, especially for a diabetic.

    • sfbob

      I was in a position to know about her substance abuse issues. I’ve had friends who knew her from her early attempts at recovery.

    • BlueberriesForMe

      She was also a long time cigarette smoker. I think she finally quit but I’m sure her long term health was affected.

  • leastyebejudged

    The mom I always wanted, the one I used to pretend my mom was.

    It’s gonna be a long week.

  • Ross

    I was 18. It was 1975.

    And I had just moved out of the house into my first apartment, $120 a month. I felt like I had just been born.

    Worked at night as a waiter. Then went out disco dancing 6 nights a week.

    Stayed home Saturday night because the bars were TOO crowded.

    Would wall across the street to Royal Castle, pile up on tiny burgers and fries and a Coke, then walk back home, lay down on the sofa, and turn on the Mary Tyler Moore Show.

    Bliss. Utter bliss.

    Thank you, Mary. For the memories.

  • ian

    Very sad news today. Over the past year I’ve been occasionally watching the Mary Tyler Moore Show on a streaming service in order season by season. For many many years I couldn’t watch the show because it would make me cry. I had a very unhappy home life, unhappy life in general as a teen in the 70’s, and The Mary Tyler Moore Show was a bright spot that shown through once a week. For 22 minutes or so I could laugh and be outside my own head and concerns. For many years I couldn’t watch a rerun because all those sad, unhappy feelings would come flooding back as well as the love I had for the show and characters. But in the past few years, with time and the distance it brings I’ve been enjoying the show for the warm, brilliant and loving comedy it is. Thank you Mary for providing that lonely boy I was with your smile.

    • Joe in PA

      Thank you for sharing that. Damn onions.

  • Snarkaholic

    A little song
    A little dance
    A little seltzer down your pants
    Thanks, Mary, for all of the joy. Rest in peace.

  • I grew up on the MTM show. And reruns (which came on CBS in the mornings and later on the independent station) of the Dick Van Dyke show. But it’s MTM that I remember most fondly. It was popular in reruns just after it went off the air but by the mid 80s it had pretty much disappeared. And then just as I turned 30 (the same age Mary was when the show started!) it came back on Nick at Nite with a 7-night “Marython”. Mary had given me a blueprint for being a single adult, unlucky in love, but well liked by friends and coworkers alike. There really hadn’t been anything like it before. Ann Marie (That Girl) was still dependent on her dad and boyfriend. Mary was on her own.

    Goodbye Mary. We’ll always love you!

    • Bert_Bauer

      I still have some of the Marythons on VHS. How great was that?

  • William

    This episode was on last Sunday night. Thank you Mary, for the laughter and the tears.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/45a321327e31e2bc804b335337f9620ed071667f5b740594ef558e97da693aeb.jpg

    • agcons

      I haven’t seen that episode since it aired. It was hilarious.

  • BlueberriesForMe

    One of my favorite episodes is when she moves to a new apartment because she feels so stuck/bored/dull in her current life. She goes to work and predicts what everyone will do/say when they come in newsroom (Lou, Murray, Sue Anne, Ted) and is then surprised by Georgette: “Buon giorno, tutti!”.

  • DaddyRay
  • Brian in Valdosta

    “Who can turn the world on with her smile?”

    Indeed. I remember watching her show (Mary Tyler Moore Show) in the 70s. Never missed an episode. R.I.P. Mary.

  • bkmn

    Thank you for so much Mary.

  • Michael Abbett

    So sad over this today. I was raised in the 60s/70s by a single mom who was an engineer, so sort of a pioneer of sorts in her own way. We never missed a single episode of The Mary Tyler Moore Show. I think she was a big role model for my mother. What a great time in television.

  • rednekokie

    SheTs a sweetie, and, we were the same age. I’ll miss her, and am proud to say she was the best. Bless you, MTM — rest in peace.

  • I feel like the MTM show helped me make it through my adolescence. (Here’s the little tribute Facebook pic I made today): https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0f4d453d7d3165d8069b623abee06c57473b021d995be3b5de4feaf0996b6eed.jpg

  • houstonray

    I had hopes that 2017 would only take the bad ones. This makes me sad. Seems I’m “in a mood” every night now because of something trump related and now this.

    Heavy sigh…RIP Mary, you WILL be missed…

  • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

    I have to say that her character in Ordinary People was devastating in its cold cruelty. As a teenager, the way she played so much against type actually scared me. The scene where she physically tensed up when her son tried to kiss her was chilling.

  • Oh’behr

    I remember this opening better:
    If it opens at the beginning, skip ahead to 25 seconds to skip the intro.
    I like the Red Owl store interior at 44 seconds, as that chain is now defunct.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-5-qRo4ObQ

  • DumbHairyApe

    Sad. She could turn the world on with her smile. She will be missed.

  • TheManicMechanic

    She had spunk. I love spunk.

  • JCF

    Lovely tribute from Sam Bee (and Women’s Marchers):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y_vFfWtjf0
    [Heh-heh, I won’t fight you for Kirsten Gillibrand, Sam—can we just make it a 3-way? ;-D]

  • Vista-Cruiser

    Mary Tyler Moore was so good in “Ordinary People”, when she played the role of my mother…