FBI Arrests Wife Of Pulse Nightclub Shooter

USA Today reports:

The wife of Omar Mateen, the man who killed 49 people in a shooting rampage at an Orlando nightclub last June, was arrested Monday on a charge of obstructing justice, a federal law enforcement official told USA TODAY. Noor Salman was taken into custody by the FBI at her Northern California home.

The law enforcement official, who was not authorized to speak publicly about the case, told USA TODAY Salman will likely face her first court appearance Tuesday. The charge could indicate that authorities believe she knew more about Mateen’s plan than she has previously admitted. CBS News said Salman also faces a charge of aiding and abetting.

Salman, in interviews with federal investigators after the shooting, allegedly acknowledged driving Mateen to the Pulse nightclub at least once before her husband launched the assault. But she told the Times in November she was unaware of his true intentions until he sent her a 4 a.m. text message the night of the shooting, asking whether she had seen what happened on the news.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    Lock her up

  • DaddyRay

    Lots of wives drive their husbands to gay night clubs

    • DaddyRay

      Especially when those husbands are homophobic religious zealots

      • coram nobis

        And carrying a big long bag or two. Certainly.

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      • Nic Peterson

        With daddy issues.

    • Mike_in_the_Tundra

      For some reason that reminded me of something that happened in Minneapolis. My husband was telling a long story, and I guess I sort of zoned out. That’s when I heard the guy next to me. He was on the phone with his wife, and he was explaining to her that he was at the bowling alley. Maybe he was hoping to bat at a few balls.

      • FatNance

        And you know that he was speaking to his wife and not his boyfriend how…?

        • Mike_in_the_Tundra

          Well, you know I thought about that, so I tried to hear the speaker on the other end. It definitely sounded female. Of course, it may not have been, but it sure sounded like a woman. Now aren’t you glad you don’t have to deal with me. A friend said it was almost impossible to get anything pass me, and then he offered condolences to my husband.

          • Frommer_Gast

            Well – your husband managed to get his long story pass you, as far as I understood – after all you didn´t listen to him… perhaps telling you something face to face is an option to do so?

          • Mike_in_the_Tundra

            Do you know how many times I heard some of those stories? He could stop in the middle of them, and I could finish them. Which is proof of how much I loved him.

        • Bad Tom

          And you know he was mistaken how?

          • FatNance

            I don’t. I asked him a question. One asks a question when they don’t know the answer to it.

          • Robincho

            One asks a question when ONE DOESN’T know the answer to it…

    • LilithCandi

      Yep, like Michele Bachman.

    • Phillip in L.A.

      And aren’t worried when they don’t hear from him until 4 AM!

      • Luddite

        Hmmm. Spot on. I guess the wife thought her husband was having a leisurely breakfast at Denny’s….at 4 am.

        • nocadrummer

          More likely feasting on Bob’s “Big Boy”.

  • another_steve

    A no-brainer.

    The living-with spouse of a terrorist has no clue?

    Please.

    • JWC

      Ya it is a tad strange

    • Uncle Mark

      I was reading that at some time before the shooting that she left Mateen to live with her parents. There were reports that her husband was very controlling and beat her, and the neighbors almost never saw her. Of course Mateen also beat his first wife.

      Clearly, if she was driving her husband to gay bars, she must have known something. (Devout Muslims do not drink nor hang out in gay bars.) The question is…’Was she so abused that she was afraid to contact the police?’ Did she not care or had antipathy towards the gay community, or was she hoping that the police or an armed patron would put down or arrest her husband/abuser?

      My question is why did this take the FBI so long to put a case together regarding her role?

      • another_steve

        Civilized society can’t allow spousal abuse to per se become a legal impediment to holding a terrorist’s abused spouse culpable when the abused spouse knew, or should have known, what the terrorist was up to. Unless you’re physically unable to report a terrorist to law enforcement, you must be held legally culpable for the terrorist’s actions.

        Spouses and family members of terrorists have a responsibility to do what they can to stop terrorism when they’re aware of what’s being planned.

        If they don’t, lock them up.

        • Goodboy

          Yep. Every accessory tries to claim abuse when they’re charged and I’ve never seen it work. Ok maybe one time when I saw a bank heist documentary and a bomb was strapped to the poor guy.

          • another_steve

            Not to minimize the horror that is spousal abuse, of course. One of the absolute scourges of the world.

            But yes, we can’t allow it to become a “get out of jail” card in situations such as the one we’re discussing in this thread.

        • Uncle Mark

          Agreed. I guess I was thinking out loud what could have kept the FBI from coming after her. The only thing I could think of was some kind of spousal PTSD

          • another_steve

            “…what could have kept the FBI from coming after her.”

            A good lawyer.

          • David L. Caster

            Maybe, or they were watching the whole clan and gathering intelligence. Evidence of her involvement in a terrorist attack would be a bonus, taking down a terrorist cell would be the prize.

          • another_steve

            Good point, David.

            Hadn’t thought of that.

          • Phillip in L.A.

            Thx for an intelligent comment, David!(*)

            (*) One of the few I’ve come across in this whole thread.

    • Bad Tom

      The wife of Tamerlan Tsarnaev claimed the exact same thing. And he assembled the bombs in the apartment where they lived.
      ——-
      Using gunpowder salvaged from fireworks. That shit gets everywhere.

  • Leo

    Didn’t we know this back in August? Took that long to make a case?

    • JT

      The FBI was too busy with Hillary’s emails.

      • JCF

        Points!

    • LilithCandi

      Two words Ben Ghazi.

      • DN

        You should address him properly: PFC Benjamin Gazzi

  • Alan S. Lee

    She knew and she didn’t stop him. Luck her up and let her rot !

  • coram nobis

    Rodeo, CA, according to some reports, or at least grew up there.

    http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Wife-of-Orlando-nightclub-gunman-arrested-outside-10860380.php

  • Gigi

    I always suspected she knew more than she let on. It scares me to see that picture of them. They look so normal. Just like Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka, the Canadian couple who raped and murdered young girls that they picked up while pretending to ask for directions.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Psychopathic killers are not in a perpetual state of delusional rage, that would help one identify them. They usually pass and function quite well in society, … until something flicks their switch. And then watch out! He would not look at all normal when in that altered state.

      • JD

        You’re assuming he’s psychotic. He could just believe he would get a good seat in Paradise if he engaged in a little jihad. Sounds crazy to us, but perfectly sane to a believer, and there are millions who do believe this.

        • Paul David

          Yup. Exactly.

        • Ore Carmi

          I don’t know about that. Killing another human being can’t be easy for people who aren’t sociopaths. I have a hard time killing moths!

      • Earl

        Paul, without Karla, was ‘just’ a rapist. When he married her, he graduated to kidnapping, murder, butchering a corpse, encasing the corpse bits in concrete…

        He might have progressed without her, or not. Both of them should be in jail forever though. IMO.

        • saucetin

          But not together for congugals.

          • Earl

            I’m not sure. I’d have to ask the prisons about that, and I’m not calling one of them. 🙂

      • nocadrummer

        Sounds like our PEOTUS.

    • Hue-Man

      She was released from prison in 2005.

      Homolka’s been living in the Quebec area under an assumed name, but in 2016, her cover was blown when a reporter with La Presse spotted her husband, and subsequently revealed that Homolka and her new family [husband + 3 kids] had moved back to Châteauguay.

      http://crimefeed.com/2016/08/the-ken-barbie-killers-where-is-karla-homolka-today/

      • Goodboy

        Too bad they didn’t get convicted in TX. They’d both have a destiny with either injection or a rope.

        • Mike_in_the_Tundra

          I assumed they were white. If so, they would have probably been safe.

          • Earl

            Read the story about those fuckups. (I’m including the cops who failed to find the tape that showed her participating willingly)

            One of their first victims was Karla’s younger sister.

          • Mike_in_the_Tundra

            T E X A S

          • Earl

            It happened in Ontario, If I understood you correctly, not Texas.

            If the same thing had happened in Texas, what would the state have done to her? Don’t say ‘execution’ because the crown already made a deal with her before the trial, they fucked it up badly.

      • Earl

        I wonder when she’ll be arrested for murdering another of her relatives. Disgusting (remainder of comment edited, so I don’t get kicked for violating any TOS that may or may not exist)

        • agcons

          I read a few years ago that her family does not desire, and does not have, any further contact with her. At least her relatives will be safe if this is still true.

          • Earl

            She has three children.

          • FatNance

            For now….

          • agcons

            Oh God, I wasn’t even thinking in that direction.

        • William

          I’m guessing your original comment involved a wood chipper.

          • Earl

            No, they used a circular saw to dismember the bodies. IIRC, coulda been a skilsaw.

            Look the story up, it’s a fucking horror. I’ll not read it again…

      • greenmanTN

        They raped and murdered her younger sister.

        At the very least that should cast a pall over family reunions.

        (She should not have been let out. She fully participated.)

        • Ninja0980

          She shouldn’t have been let out but by the time they knew her full involvement, it was too late to undo the deal she had madr.

        • FatNance

          Being the smart girl that she is, she struck a deal with prosecutors and received a fairly light sentence in exchange for her testimony against her husband. Some think she was the true mastermind behind their crime spree and the deal was struck with the wrong partner.

          • greenmanTN

            I have read a fair number of true crime books but what she and her husband did was particularly nasty.

            And “he was abusive so I had to do it” cuts very little ice.

            I would like to think that even if I was beaten like a rented mule I would draw the line at murder.

    • JWC

      Karla is out married lives in Quebec Paul is still in,, getting his hole stretched daily and loving it

      • FatNance

        Nice. Do you make light of rape that happens to men outside of prison as well?

        • JWC

          just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen

          • FatNance

            I’ll type slowly, so perhaps you’ll be able to keep up. Yes, rape happens. I know that. What I don’t like is imbeciles finding joy in somebody getting raped. Understand now?

          • JWC

            and whomever you are you are entitled to your opion and on that note keep it to yourself an d fuck off

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    Guess the FBI must have found she had a server, …
    That’s about the only thing that gets them off their smug keisters.

    • Ernest Endevor

      If it’s a private server…

  • Jmdintpa

    so she knew, didnt say anything, i suspect she probably hates the gays for making her husband gay and making him hate her.

  • Friday

    Well, it’s about time for *that.*

  • Natty Enquirer

    “Oh, you want to go hang out at the gay nightclub? Sure, honey, I’ll drop you off on the way to embroidery class.”

    • LilithCandi

      …or on the way to evening prayers.

  • txstevo

    Good to know they are turning the screws on her.
    Now what about the mother of the San Bernadino shooters?

  • MikeBx2

    The wheels of justice…

  • Bad Tom

    WHAT ABOUT OMAR MATEEN’S FATHER?!?
    WHO SEEMED AWFULLY OUTSPOKEN AGAINST TEH GAYS,
    YOU KNOW?

    Sorry. Didn’t mean to shout.
    ——-
    Yes. Yes, I fucking did mean to shout.

    • JustBecause

      It’s not illegal to not like and speak out against any group, including TEH GAYS.

      Do tell, what law do you think Mateen’s father broke? I’m sure the FBI is waiting to hear from you with your astute legal insights.

      • Bad Tom

        You’ve got to be taught
        To hate and fear,
        You’ve got to be taught
        From year to year,
        It’s got to be drummed
        In your dear little ear
        You’ve got to be carefully taught.
        You’ve got to be taught to be afraid
        Of people whose eyes are oddly made,
        And people whose skin is a diff’rent shade,
        You’ve got to be carefully taught.
        You’ve got to be taught before it’s too late,
        Before you are six or seven or eight,
        To hate all the people your relatives hate,
        You’ve got to be carefully taught!

        When a parent’s religious hatred is expressed by their child’s murderous rampage of terror, YES the parent’s encouragement, enticement, incitement, and quite possible direct involvement SHOULD BE PURSUED as vigorously as fucking private email servers, Mr. Trolly Troll.

        Also, Fuck You.

        • JustBecause

          I’m sorry that you’re having trouble coming to terms with the fact that the world does not to your standards. His father committed no crimes. He will not be prosecuted because Bad Tom thinks he should be.

          Also, you’re not NEARLY man enough to fuck me.

          • Phil in FLL

            The law will not prosecute Seddique Matteen’s stated support of the Taliban and convicted terrorists, something which is protected by the First Amendment. And yes, you’re being a real asshole.

          • JustBecause

            Oh, I’m an asshole for being intolerant of sloppy thinking and ignorant statements about what the law is or is not? Fine. You’re a c*** and your mother’s a w****.

            Trifling piece of trash.

          • Bad Tom

            Phil in FLL seems to have a pretty good grasp of the law.
            Your rage is spilling over.

          • The Return of Traxley

            Impotent rage, dear.

          • The Return of Traxley

            Ooh! Ooh! I know this game.

            He’s a… cape? A cafe? A cure?

            His mom’s a… witch? A wight? A whelk?

            I give up. You’re boring. And your last line sounds like something a drunken small town real estate agent would say to her former best male friend in the parking lot at Teazers Bar after she learned that he and her ex-husband were registered at Target, and just before she awkwardly thew her best Jaclyn Smith pumps at him.

          • karmanot

            Oh honey, it would take three garbage cans to fill your hole.

          • JustBecause

            Wow. You are Traxley seem to be in the same middle school civics class as Bad Tom. Uninformed opinions, immature humor. You three give f****ts a bad name.

          • The Return of Traxley
          • Bad Tom

            Public outrage stopped the gutting of the Ethics Office that the Republicans attempted as soon as the new Congress convened.

            Whether Seddique Mir Mateen should be prosecuted for his possible (likely, inevitable,*) private collusion with his terrorist son won’t be decided by me, nor by you, but by competent authorities, IF APPROPRIATE INVESTIGATIONS ARE PURSUED. Which is not at all assured.**
            —–
            * My own opinion.
            ** Evidence is, public outrage can change that. Compelling arguments can spark outrage. Outrage lights fires under Congress and Three Letter Agencies. A web post is a mere spark. But a spark can make a flame. And a flame can make a fire.

            And once the flames begin to catch, the wind will blow it higher.

            Who said that? Who died to inspire that?

        • Phil in FLL

          I explained the actual law to JustBecause. The law does not prosecute making statements in support of the Taliban or convicted terrorists, which is what Seddique Matteen did and is protected by the First Amendment. Thank you for reminding JustBecause what an asshole he’s being.

        • Lumpy Gaga

          OMFG, I just heard this 5 minutes ago from Joe McGasko’s 11/14/16 show (“Come Ye Disconsolate”)

          http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/shows/69524

          FWIW, a show designed to be a salve from the events of a week before…. Pointer Sisters! Yes We Can Can!

          • Bad Tom

            Synchronicity.

            If you have never read Carl Jung’s Memories, Dreams, Reflections, I highly recommend it.

      • Bad Tom

        I think it SHOULD be illegal to incite murder.

        • Earl

          Last I heard it was.

          Trump’ll probably ‘fix’ that.

          • Bad Tom

            Crimes not pursued or punished become uncrimes.
            And I agree. Trump will fix that by making this process very, very smooth.

      • Phil in FLL

        You are correct in stating that Seddique Matteen (Omar Matteen’s father) did not break the law. I will explain. I think what Bad Tom is referring to is Seddique Mateen’s speaking in support of the Taliban and speaking in support of convicted terrorists. Seddique Matin is listed as president of the American Muslim Alliance (AMA)chapter in Fort Pierce in a July 1997 announcement. The AMA sponsored several conferences in the U.S. at which its leader, Agha Saeed, has spoken in defense of convicted terrorists, including Aafia Siddiqui (a.k.a “Lady al-Qaida”), Palestinian Islamic Jihad board member Sami Al-Arian, and Pakistani intelligence lobbyist Ghulam Nabi Fai.

        In a video posted shortly before the Orlando massacre, Seddique Matteen (Omar Matteen’s father) made this statement: “Our brothers in Waziristan, our warrior brothers in [the] Taliban movement and national Afghan Taliban are rising up,” According to current American law, it is only a crime to provide material support to designated terrorists or terrorist groups in the form of “training,” “expert advice or assistance,” “service,” or “personnel.” Making statements in support of terrorists or terrorist groups is not a crime. It’s just being an asshole, something which I think you might be familiar with, JustBecause.

      • karmanot

        Bad Troll…..No Donut

    • djcoastermark

      Yea, I remember the early report where the father was yammering about that they saw 2 men kissing in S. Fla and it enraged him/them. Funny how he shut up and changed his story very quickly after that got out. Like a light bulb went on. Oh crap what did I just implicate myself in?

  • Lars Littlefield

    Fiver killed, nine wounded in Playa del Carmen gay bar. Hmmmmm . . . . Supposedly a drug war thing . . . hmmmmm.

    • JustBecause

      The nightclub in question, The Blue Parrot, is described as “gay-friendly” which basically means, they don’t bar queers or kick them out for dancing with each other. The event that was going on the night of the shooting was definitely NOT gay-centric.

  • Johnny Wyeknot

    She not only knew, she helped.

  • karmanot

    Bad Burka….No Falafel

    • Phil in FLL

      In view of Germany’s current difficulties, I think they’re introducing a bill in the German Bundestag, and the bill has that exact name:

      “Böse Burka! Keine Falafel!”

      /snark

  • JCF

    [Poor kid.]

    Let justice be done for our martyrs.

    • JustBecause

      Martyrs? Our matryrs?

  • Iissmart

    We should be deporting all Muslims

  • Ore Carmi

    I hope this is not just a hunt for someone to prosecute. She could easily be innocent.

    • Michelle

      Arrest does not equal guilt. She’ll have her day in court.

      • Ore Carmi

        Yes, but have you seen some of the officials’ comments? The Orlando police chief said he was glad “someone will be held accountable.” It seems like some officials have already found her guilty.

      • Ore Carmi

        P.S. If she faces trial, it will be really interesting to learn who the jurors are. If there are no Muslim Americans on the jury, I would find it hard to believe that she can get a fair trial.

  • Ninja0980

    I have no doubt she was abused.
    But even that excuse can only take you so far when you know your spouse is planning to hurt others and you do nothing.
    She could have stopped this so many times, and she chose not to do so.
    There has to be a price to pay for that.

    • JustBecause

      No doubt? What facts can you point to in order to enlighten those of us who prefer evidence over imagination/assumption?

  • Scott

    Is it my cynicism that makes me think there is no news here? This feels like the FBI dutifully setting up President Trump’s first press conference so he can bloviate about how is regime is catching terrorists because only he is prepared to be tough on the Mooslims. I hope I’m wrong and I fear I’m right.

    • Michelle

      Last I heard, Barack Obama was president.

    • Ore Carmi

      You could be on to something.

    • leastyebejudged

      Are you saying that she didn’t have a legal responsibility to maybe do more than she did ?

  • Ore Carmi

    Regardless of whether or not she’s guilty, I’m really curious about her. This was her second marriage, and she chose to marry an apparently abusive, psychotic man, against her family’s wishes? What exactly was going on here?

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  • EyeJelly

    I pray to God this isn’t just a distraction meant to move the conversation away from Trump/Comey/Putin.