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ANCHORAGE: Anti-LGBT Christian Group Files Ballot Measure To Gut Hard-Won LGBT Rights Ordinance

As longtime readers may recall, in 2014 Anchorage finally enacted an LGBT rights ordinance after many years of a very ugly battle. Anchorage’s NBC affiliate reports on the latest development:

A group of concerned citizens is petitioning to have religious and other exemptions added into Anchorage’s anti-discrimination ordinance passed in 2015. Just before close of business Tuesday afternoon, the paperwork was filed at Anchorage City Hall.

“We do want to get it before the citizens again and get the conversation started,” says Kim Minnery, wife of outspoken Anchorage conservative Jim Minnery. Kim Minnery says she doesn’t want to see discrimination against any groups including the LGBT community. She says the current ordinance discriminates against religious groups and provides no support for their beliefs

“Those institutions should be able to teach what they want to teach and run their ministries and outreach according to their religious beliefs,” says Minnery. Minnery believes the current ordinance opens Anchorage businesses up to lawsuits like those seen in the lower 48.

Jim Minnery is the cousin of Tom Minnery, former vice president of Focus On The Family and former chairman of Alliance Defending Freedom. In 2012 the ACLU demanded an investigation into their accusation that Jim Minnery had encouraged voter fraud in that year’s successful attempt to defeat the Anchorage ordinance. See NBC’s video report on this latest attack at the link above.

RELATED: Alaska has never had an openly gay state legislator. Two men are seeking to change that, including longtime JMG participant Christopher Constant. See his campaign site here.

  • DaddyRay

    We are going to have to fight tooth and nail to maintain every success we ever made over the past 8 years possibly the last 50 years

    • Paula

      For the next 100 years!

  • j.martindale
  • Bared Bear

    It’s not over until I can hold my husband’s hand in public and steal a smooch without fear and not have the prickling sensation in the back of my neck that I’m going to get smashed in the head with a crowbar by a guy holding a bible and a faked pious smile.

    • clay

      Jealousy is never pretty; they should “move on”.

    • Gerry Fisher

      This

    • Guest

      Then it won’t be over in our lifetimes; the goal has to be LEGAL equality. Hearts and minds, and insecure intellects, are another matter entirely and one we can’t be responsible for.

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  • Oikos

    Ok third party and dump voters (some of whom were trolling here yesterday) this is what you voted for except now the Federal govt will be assisting these hate groups. Thanks for giving us dump. Say goodbye to your rights.

    • crewman

      Expect all the people arguing for “let states decide” whether marriage should be legal, whether discrimination should be legal, whether adoption should be legal, suddenly realize the federal government is the level of government that should be setting laws for everyone. New motto: “Obey the rule of the land.”

      • Oikos

        After it is too late.

    • Trace

      I don’t think if Hillary won, that these Jeebus whack jobs would just disappear. They, and their teabags, will still prevent us from enjoying some much needed peace and quiet.

      • Oikos

        They wouldn’t disappear but they wouldn’t have all three branches of govt as their allies, which is how it will be now.

  • clay

    It’s not the job of (local, state, or federal) government to provide support for your beliefs. And your beliefs are damn weak if the need it (and will be weakened if they use it).

    “Those institutions should be able to teach what they want to teach and run their ministries and outreach according to their religious beliefs,” sure, just like the government should be able to decide their tax exemptions based on the 14th Amendment. BTW, all the exemption you need or should get is in the 1st Amendment, already.

    • IamM

      It never occurs to those social parasites that government has to “support” essentially all beliefs and potential beliefs equally. They always want ‘freedom to force my religion on others with special support from taxpayer money.’

      • Oikos

        Parasite is exactly the right term.

  • Butch

    What exactly “conversation” is it that you want to have? You don’t want to have to hide your hate and bigotry. That’s your conversation.

    • clay

      She wants a conversation about how we’re going to hell and taking American society with us.

      She wants a conversation about how vaccines have made us weak, but have somehow also made lesbians too strong.

      She wants a conversation about ministry (rather than actually ministering).

  • TrollopeReader

    Gosh, she looks like a happy and fun person to be with !

    • Bj Lincoln

      My first thought too.

    • Oh’behr

      I’ll bet her husband is also a load of laughs.

      • Jay Silversmith

        Why? Did he drop his pants?

        • lattebud

          In the local tea room cause he’s probably not getting any action at home

  • geoffalnutt

    Again: Religion is conflated with being gay. Gay is not “a lifestyle choice”, however. Religion is. No child on this planet was ever born a Christian, Jew or Muslim. Ever. They really want it to be a choice so they can claim the false-equivalency. Bullshit. It’s just hate.

    • clay

      “No child on this planet was ever born a Christian, Jew or Muslim.”

      Wait, is she one of those Christian Identity people who believe being Jewish (or Muslim) is a defect of the blood?

    • Jay Silversmith

      Kim thinks she’s the product of a Virgin Birth.

    • Mad Captain Robert

      So, does that mean it’s OK for a Muslim to use a Christian bathroom? Or a Jew to use a Muslim bathroom? Can a Muslim marry another Muslim (homoreligious marriage…where is this mentioned in the Qur’an?), or must we force Christians to marry Jews (heteroreligious marriage?). I mean, Christians have the right to marry whoever they want…as long as it’s not another Christian, right? This whole homoreligious thing is just disgusting! I’m tired of having to explain to my nephews why two Muslims are walking down the street holding hands, kissing, and appearing to be happy with one another! And why do we allow Christians to recruit children? I mean, those big signs in front of churches advertising “Vacation Bible School” is nothing more than an attempt to recruit and indoctrinate children into their devious lifestyle! Think of the children!!! What about Jews in the military? I mean, Jews walking around the battlefield being openly…Jewish! It kills troop moral, and causes our soldiers to surrender!

      I am SO glad that we elected Trump, who has promised to send the homoreligious back into Canada…where they belong!

  • zhera

    “A group of concerned citizens…”

    Why?!? Why call them concerned, KTUU? If you must use an adjective, how about one that’s true: Bigoted. Hateful. Those are very good words to describe this group. ‘Concerned’ is NOT.

    Kim, if your religion is dependent on the discrimination of others it’s not a religion; it’s an excuse. Now go fuck yourself.

    • clay

      Unless they provided a list a names, it’s a group of one.

    • boatboy_srq

      “Concerned citizens” is dogwhistle for “religiousist raving wingnut bigots.”

      • lattebud

        Kristian Kocerned Konservatuve citizens

  • Bj Lincoln

    Jebus H. Crust! Has there been a problem or issue since the law went into effect? Are churches/related to churches having a hard time running their businesses? Has any person with ‘deeply held beliefs’ had to compromise themselves to keep their company afloat or keep their job? I am sure we would have heard about it if there is a problem.

    • boatboy_srq

      There’s been a yuuge problem. A couple dozen Xtians have had their precious feefees bruised. That’s soooo much worse than all the LGBT folks losing jobs, housing, health services, legal protections for their relationships (which cis couples have enjoyed for centuries), etc etc.

    • Chucktech

      I dunno, BJ, some homo might ask them to bake a fag cake, or something…

    • Unfortunately, the Anchorage area and the surrounding communities have been invaded by the loony religious right, and the xtian’s have been attempting to turn the area into a xtian “utopia”.

      • William

        Gee, my oldest sister lives there. I wonder if she’s the problem.

  • Dutchlander

    A group of ‘concerned’ citizens? No, these people are not ‘concerned’. They are religion-brainwashed nutcases who have irrational fears and immoral standards.

  • DaveMiller135

    Dear Christians: Prejudice you held onto for over 2000 years is still prejudice.

    • Well, to be honest, LGBT folk are the latest in a long, long string of the victims of xtian prejudice.

  • Oh’behr

    Gosh, she looks like a victim of herself. No wonder she wants to drag someone else under her bus(iness), er, busyness.

    • Bob Conti

      Tragic, isn’t it?

    • William

      She looks like she is being held hostage.

      • lattebud

        I wasn’t thinking an aaaault victim on Law and Order SVU

  • Chris Gardner

    When I hear someone say stupid crap like above, I then ask them, “so, if my religious beliefs say that I shouldn’t serve black people or hire black people at my company, should that be legal too? What if my [sincere religious] beliefs say I can’t put women into leadership positions in my company… can I refuse to hire or promote women into management positions?”

    That stops them in their tracks every time.

    • MBear

      Stops them in their tracks? Really?
      My experience is different.
      I get some gobbly-gook about sin and blah blah blah and it’s not the same because choice, action, //hatever.

      What really gets ’em for me is when I ask them: “What is the ‘sin’? Getting married? Or just the sex? Because how do you know they are having sex? And is it all kinds of gay sex? Are some things permissable? How do you know specifically what they are doing?”

      That’s the bit I never get a response on.

      Really: The christianists problem with gays is SEX – but they are just assuming we have sex…and thinking about it…a lot. Let’s make them think more about it. nom nom nom

    • IamM

      Also the people who are going to serve her unless, depending on their reiligion, she puts on a veil or some makeup. Not to mention how she’d scream if a Christian or other religious person refused to do business with bigots on moral principles.

    • Gigi

      The ones I talk to usually say: “Black people don’t choose to be black. Homosexuals choose to be homosexual and God says that homosexuality is a sin. Homosexuals choose to live in sin, which against God. Remember: Sodom and Gomorrah!”

      • IamM

        According to their Bible, Jesus said Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed for being GOP-types. Rich, arrogant, lacking in hospitality and charity.

        • Gigi

          I’ve tried that. They pivot to the story of Lot and the angels, where the men of the city came to Lot’s house and wanted to know (“rape”) them. I say, “You say gays make up 1% of the population. The passage says that EVERY male from S&G came to “know” the strangers (angels). Since it’s not possible they were ALL homosexual the story is obviously about inhospitable behavior (as per Ezekiel 16:49-50). What could be more inhospitable than raping a man just because they weren’t known to you?” Their heads have usually exploded by that point.

          • William

            Lot offered up his daughters to the mob. He even mentioned that the girls were virgins. The mob didn’t want them for some reason.
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5a3f78e1e5eba66e3e24cd844f7ff98870c85ec5aac41a959fbc6b39fa8dbdc3.jpg

          • Gigi

            “Because they were homosexual.” That’s what they believe.

          • Trace

            Just tell them the truth. That it’s a collection of the most horrible and barbaric fairy tales that make even Stephen King gag and there is no evidence God exists, and angels are about as real as leprechauns.

          • hahahahaa! oh! wait! So, I should stop looking for the leprechauns pot of gold?

          • B Snow

            Yes, you should stop looking.

            (More leprechaun gold for me!!! Wait, did I type that out loud?)

          • Gah! You did type that out loud!!!

          • IamM

            It says “know” them. Whether it just meant question or question with rape, it’s a visit from the city state’s ‘homeland security’ to see what’s up with the strangers who just showed up and went directly to the house of an unassimilated foreigner.

      • boatboy_srq

        Response: “so, you’re damning people for who they love because a couple cities failed miserably at hospitality (a Hebrew obligation)?” Throw Jeremiah and Ezekiel at them.

      • William

        The Sodom and Gomorrah story ends with Lot’s daughters getting him drunk and having their way with him.

  • Mike in Texas

    “Religious Freedom” is neither of those things.

  • greenmanTN

    “‘How DARE the gubmint try to make me display human decency!’ bellows right wing hag who desperately needs moisturizer.”

  • Bob Conti

    I posted this on the station’s discussion board for the story.

    “Those institutions should be able to teach what they want to teach and run their ministries and outreach according to their religious beliefs,” says Minnery. This is an outright lie. Take a look at Section 5.20.090 of the Anchorage Municipal Code. It clearly provides religious exemptions, including, in subpara. C a guarantee of Constitutional (U.S. and Alaska) protections. The First Amendment protects religious beliefs (no matter how ignorant they may be). This is a made-up issue and scare tactic.

    • EdA

      Thanks. For people who are so insistent on trying to post the Ten Commandments in public places, it’s remarkable how contemptuous Christianist Fundamentalists are to the commandment about not bearing false witness.

  • Jerry Kott

    Despite the perception that clear even progress has been made, it is still open season to discriminate against LGBT Citizens. The opponents of full Equality are on a mission to look for wiggle room where ever they can and will try every trick in their book of tricks ( not the Good Book) to change the game board to fix the game. Trump’s selection has given them a second wind. Their heads seem to always want to get in my pants.

  • chris james

    Why do the religious seem to feel they have the right to tell the rest of us how to live our lives? Many of them seem to feel that they wield the power of their god against everyone, and do not pay attention to the messages their Bible speaks about.
    Institutions and companies that are licensed by government should not be able to discriminate against anyone. It’s do unto others time, folks…get real.

    • William

      Render unto Caesar….

  • BobSF_94117

    Why don’t the news articles ever mention the grift…

  • Acronym Jim

    “Those institutions should be able to teach what they want to teach and run their ministries and outreach according to their religious beliefs,”

    If you have a ministry that doesn’t want to allow people of a certain subset to be members, you have that ability. That’s “freedom of religion” and it’s protected at the federal level.

    If you have a ministry that disallows marriages between two people of differing backgrounds or beliefs, you have that ability. That’s “freedom of religion” and it’s protected at the federal level.

    If you have ministry that prohibits members from certain actions, spaces, or expressions, you have the ability to demand members to avoid those actions, spaces, or expressions, by pain of being expelled and shunned. That’s “freedom of religion” and it’s protected at the federal level.

    If you own a flower shop and you don’t want to provide the sames services to one segment of society that you do for others, you don’t have that ability. That’s NOT “freedom of religion” and it’s discriminatory behavior that should have the federal prohibition expanded at the national level.

  • Ernest Endevor

    The comments at the link are interesting. In the good way.

  • William

    Does anyone still have the receipt for Alaska? We could leave the keys on the Kremlin doorstep, knock and run away. Just so long as Putin keeps Palin and these loonies.

  • Trace

    One day, far into the future, we may see that mass delusions of sky fairies, and silly beliefs that capricious desert nomad written genocidal storybooks are real, is no longer to be respected, much less encouraged.

  • Rick

    Deer in the headlights.

  • Ben in Oakland

    When, oh when, will we start calling discrimination on the basis of religious belief what it is:

    Discrimination on the basis of religious belief. Malicious behavior directed at others under color of law. Religious bigotry disguised as “sincere religious belief?”

  • This “concerned citizen” worries that other people’s religion will impede my ability to lead a life free of discrimination, as a equal citizen.

  • Ninja0980

    So will anyone be able to cite religious freedom in refusing to provide service to you or your husband?

    • B Snow

      There’s got to be some law about not consorting with crazy people.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Scrub all you want sweety, that stain of hate you have ain’t comin’ out.

  • BudClark

    … husband doesn’t fcuk her enough …

    • William

      It is very difficult to tear him away from the airport Men’s room.

  • Lars Littlefield

    Seems like a new strain of influenza could take out everyone named Minnery and pretty much solve the whole problem. Anyone know a sympathetic epidemiologist?

  • jsmukg

    ‘Ministries and outreach,’ little cretin woman, are not businesses open to the public. Where’s this bitch’s GoFundament account?

  • BeaverTales

    Before the election, the Minnerys claimed to have changed their priorities from gay-bashing to other Christian work. They lied, of course. The Trump win emboldened them to come out as raging homophobes again. No one cares enough about this ordinance to claw it back except the Prevo and Minnery churches.

  • Skyler

    This will go down the same way it did in 2012. 2012 should have been a win but turned into a 59-41% defeat and no worker has had protection from sexual orientation discrimination for 4 years because nothing is more important in the world than transgender bathrooms.40 years of struggle for gay civil rights will be lost again because of an ideology that says that no gay rights may ever pass unless they are bundled with transgender bathroom provisions.

  • Gianni

    Kim Minnery says she doesn’t want to see discrimination against any groups including the LGBT community………….She forgot the ‘but’ and didn’t finish her statement. She may not want to “see” any discrimination against gay people, but clearly wants the religious nutjobs to have the option of discriminating against us without interference from any law. Very big of you dear.

  • JCF
  • doomcow

    Here’s a bit more thorough look at the initiative than KTUU published: http://www.alaskacommons.com/2017/01/04/opponents-anchorage-anti-discrimination-law-another-shot-ballot/