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BREAKING: Federal Judge Blocks Obamacare’s Trans And Abortion-Related Protections Nationwide

Chris Geidner reports at Buzzfeed:

A federal judge in Texas on Saturday issued a nationwide injunction halting enforcement of Obama administration protections for transgender and abortion-related healthcare services just one day before they were due to go into effect.

The lawsuit — brought by Texas, a handful of other states, and some religiously affiliated nonprofit medical groups — challenges a regulation implementing the sex nondiscrimination requirement found in the Affordable Care Act (ACA).

The Health and Human Services (HHS) regulation “forbids discriminating on the basis of ‘gender identity’ and ‘termination of pregnancy’” under Obamacare, as US District Court Judge Reed O’Connor wrote in his opinion halting enforcement of those provisions in the rule.

Explaining the lawsuit, O’Connor wrote, “Plaintiffs claim the Rule’s interpretation of sex discrimination pressures doctors to deliver healthcare in a manner that violates their religious freedom and thwarts their independent medical judgment and will require burdensome changes to their health insurance plans on January 1, 2017.”

The states and nonprofits in the healthcare lawsuit allege that the regulation violates the Administrative Procedure Act (APA) — which sets the rules for federal government rule-making — and the Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA).

Hit the link for much more about the ruling. O’Connor, who has previously ruled against other LGBT-related issues, was appointed to the federal bench by George W. Bush in 2007.

  • DaddyRay

    What an F’ed up way to end 2016 – brought to you by the F’en Republicans

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      and 3rd party voters, the “I’m far too faux-principled to vote Hillary” and other assorted morons.

  • LesbianTippingHabits

    U.S. District Judge Reed O’Connor is also a parsimonious (cheap) tipper.

    As we prepare to welcome the New Year 2017, please tip generously for good service.

    Remember, tips are good karma. And karma never lies.

    And only the wait staff knows for sure. Thank you, and Happy 2017!

    • DaddyRay

      Also remember that most restaurants don’t pay a living wage expecting servers to earn most of their money on gratuities

    • Chucktech

      U.S. District Judge Reed O’Connor is also a parsimonious (cheap) tipper.

      Totes believable, but how do you know that?

      • LesbianTippingHabits

        As indicated above, only the wait staff knows for sure. Thank you again.

        • Chucktech

          I’m hardly going to defend this guy, but you did make the declaratory statement that U.S. District Judge Reed O’Connor is also a parsimonious (cheap) tipper, so unless you were the unlucky recipient of his parsimony, how do you know?

          • LesbianTippingHabits

            Thank you. It is actually “uninhibited, robust, and wide-open” debate.

  • AtticusP

    God damn! Where is the guillotine when we really need it?

  • HZ81

    One final knife. Until tomorrow’s knives, naturally.

  • The shape of things to come in 2017. And so the fight begins.

    • fuow

      Actually, we already lost the war. By not voting.
      To all you gay men out there who didn’t vote: Fuck you.
      To all you asswipe lifeforms who voted for Trump: Eat shit and die. I genuinely hope you’re the first who lose everything you value.

      • DaddyRay

        But her emails ….

        • Yeah, her private server that never got hacked. Sounds like she knew what she was doing after all.

          • Kate

            It was hacked.

            http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/09/02/fbi-an-account-on-clintons-private-email-server-was-hacked/

            She also forwarded classified email to her non-cleared maid. And her non-cleared IT staff had access to classified emails. Oh, and she gave those classified emails to her non-cleared attorneys.

            But hey, pretend that she did nothing wrong.

          • unclemike

            Interesting link: “The FBI account presents no evidence that Hillary Clinton’s emails were affected, or that the aide to Bill Clinton had access to classified information.”

            Let’s also pretend to ignore that many of those emails (2K or so) had info that was only retroactively classified and not when they were discussed or sent originally.

            Frankly she could walk down the street in a pantsuit made entirely of classified emails and she would still be a better president than the orange asshole we’re gonna get.

          • I know, it’s like some people choose not to read what they link…

          • Kate

            “Let’s also pretend to ignore that many of those emails (2K or so) had info that was only retroactively classified and not when they were discussed or sent originally.”

            Let’s pretend to ignore that one of the jobs of Secretary of State is to classify things in the first place.

          • unclemike

            I don’t see “classifies documents” listed.

            https://www.state.gov/secretary/115194.htm

          • Dale Snyder

            Let’s also pretend you’re unhappy the Pussy Grabber is the PEOTUS.

          • Kate

            You’re telling me that the man we elected:

            http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2016-03-11-1457709578-5978124-TrumpNYP-thumb.jpg

            Might have a sexual appetite? That he might have used the attractiveness of his wealth to attract women, particularly women who would consent to sexual acts?

            I’m shocked! Shocked, I say.

          • DReel

            It’s alright because others have done it. Uh huh.

          • Dom Saunders

            Sexual appetite =/= Boasting about sexual assault.

            By that same logic, Daniel Holtzclaw “might” have had a sexual appetite, and he “might” have used his badge and power to force women into situations where he was the one in control, and could use them to his advantage because they were poor and no one in court would believe them. Plus, plenty of women came out and said they didn’t consent to his walking into their dressing rooms or to his touching them in any way.

            Please be quiet. You and your thought process is a complete disgrace to women.

          • olandp

            You are wasting your breath, Kate is right and no one will ever convince her otherwise. Email, Benghazi, Travelgate, Whitewater, Pizzagate, whatever bullshit anyone can make up.

          • Dave Babler

            You didn’t read what you posted. Furthermore a review of your posts on other sites shows you to be a right-wing shit thrower. Why should we take you seriously, breeder?

          • Kate

            I did read what I posted. As for being a “breeder”, my wife would be rather surprised.

          • Dave Babler

            So you’re a Quisling then, my bad. GTFO

          • ceeenbee

            Fuck off asshole. You’re a traitorous, small, pathetic loser. You have shit now and you’ll have have even less when the orange shitgibbon has his way. Enjoy.

          • David L. Caster

            And no harm whatsoever was done. And the “Classification” was done after the fact. You need to get a life. Clinton is past history now anyway. Suck up to Trump if you must, but get off the nonsense trail.

          • lymis

            that’s not what it said. It says that an account that had messages on server was hacked. NOT that the server was hacked. Nothing in that report indicates where the files that were accessed were located.

          • Kate

            How do you think that servers are attacked, generally speaking? An attacker gains access as a legitimate user, and uses their credentials to access things.

            On an email server, if you get access to a user’s account, you get all emails that they sent or received, at a minimum. If you are able to do a privilege escalation attack, you get everything on that server.

          • PlayToe

            Give it up, Kate. You’ve lost so bad here. You suck.

          • PeterC

            Kate likes HATE.

          • Prixator

            Seems that she just enjoys being “provocative”, like some orange-hued life-form which I will not name.

      • JWC

        You really must learn to express yourself and not hold back

      • FAEN

        The same goes for the morons who voted third party. Fuck them.

        • Todd20036

          You couldn’t pay me to fuck Perdue.

          Ok, maybe you could, but you’re funding my retirement.

          • Nic Peterson

            No dick for Purdue, ever.

      • Oh I was reassured by the LGBT community who voted Trump and the GOP that everything would be marvellous. They threw tons of abuse at me saying Trump would be the saviour for us gays. Obviously I knew they were a little hard of thinking and sucked in by hate…no telling people until the obvious hits them in the face and makes the world a miserable place for all of us.

        • Strepsi

          WHO the hell were these people? Where do you live? Your country has been boggling my mind lately….

          • forcebear

            Mine too, and I live in one of the reddest states.

        • Yes, it’s disgusting that 16% of gay people voted for Trump but that’s significantly down from the 25% that usually vote for Republicans for president.

          • Dom Saunders

            Well, to some gay people, money, guns, and their rights to bash other minorities matters more to them than the rights of people within their own communities.

          • BobSF_94117

            I think those are just conservative Christians messing with pollsters. “Did you vote for Trump?” “Yes.” “Are you gay?” “Sure.”….

        • Kate

          “Obviously I knew they were a little hard of thinking and sucked in by hate”

          You do realize that this judge has nothing to do with Trump, and Trump hasn’t even had a single day in office, right?

          • Given his behavior and cabinet appointments during the transition, does he need to have been in office to form an opinion? It’s been an absolute horror show already.

          • Kate

            That really depends on how much power the cabinet is given. Trump isn’t exactly known for listening to people, or doing what those in power want him to.

        • Raising_Rlyeh

          The fuckers that voted for trump either don’t care about marriage or have deluded themselves that their marriages are safe. I can’t say enough how much I fucking hate them. They will get no sympathy from me.

        • Falconlights

          I don’t know any LGBT people who were dumb enough to vote for Trump. Seriously. The only two reasons that an LGBT people would consider voting for the Orange-utan are self-hatred and their wallets. I do know that my wife and I voted for Hillary and a Democratic downticket.

      • Zoey

        Blame the media. I would’ve voted if I knew Trump was going to win. Imagine my surprise the next day. Snark.

        • forcebear

          The day before the election, Nate Silver gave Hair Furor a 1 in 3 chance to win, including a 10% chance of winning without the popular vote. That should have scared the shit out of you.

          EDIT: Just saw your snark notice. Apologies if you voted for Clinton.

          • Todd20036

            I had blocked him. I think he’s a Berned bro

      • TJay229

        I so agree.

      • margaretpoa

        I have at least one gay male friend who doesn’t vote and has never even been registered as far as I know but who is just now waking up to what he’s helped enable. I spent an exasperating decade trying to point out to him how things were trending. I live in Texas and now we’ll both have to live with the results of his political apathy and ignorance.
        I’m avoiding his New Year’s Eve party this year for the first time in a decade and a half because I can’t look at him or listen to him whine about Trump/Abbot//Patrick.

      • Buford

        Yep – it’s real simple – you either actively cast a vote for Hillary, or you supported Trump (directly or indirectly).

  • geoffalnutt

    Religious Freedom = I hate you.

    • FAEN

      Religious Freedom = ONLY the baby Jeebus religion.

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      • RobynWatts

        Preferably only the white wealthy Christian male babies.

        • gorielly

          And THAT leaves Jeezus out.

      • Guest

        The right is just using religion as a way to gain and maintain power.

        I have never seen a group of people, the right, who claim they want freedom and liberty, an excuse again to do what they want, while claiming they are protecting your freedom, while taking away your rights. And the right just keeps getting worse. It will be a very long 4 years, or even 2 years before we have the minimum chance of stopping these elected haters.

        • From this website “The 14 Defining Characteristics of Fascism” http://www.rense.com/general37/fascism.htm
          is this…

          8. Religion and Government are Intertwined – Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government’s policies or actions.

    • Zoey

      What a twisted definition of “Freedom”.

      • Falconlights

        The whole thing is truly Orwellian, is it not?

      • gorielly

        “Freedom” for too many “Christian” folks is “FREEDUMB”.

    • j.martindale

      Not exactly. It is, “You don’t count, only I do.”

    • Buford

      A good time to remind everyone that being gay or trans is not a lifestyle choice, but being religious is… so it’s odd that their choice to be Xtian somehow supersedes others’ rights to equal protection under our laws.

  • And so it begins.

  • FAEN

    We’re going to have to dust off our boots and fight for the next 4 years. It’s going to be an all out assault on us.

    • fuow

      Yup – and if less than 100K more had bothered to vote, we wouldn’t have lost.
      Didn’t vote? Fuck you.

    • JWC

      I definitely think it will be open season on gays but we have gained so much and so much support

      • Yes, but we have far more public support than we did in 2004 or earlier. It’s going to be a fight but we have more allies than ever before.

        • JWC

          Look at all the support NC got over HB2 Would you have seen that 10. 8 4 years ago

          • Todd20036

            The freaking NBA is on our side! Seriously !

          • JWC

            Happy new year Todd

    • Guest

      How many who cry we must fight will do nothing! There will be no letters written, no calls made to elected haters, no emails sent, no donations, no participation in phone banking during the election, no door to door to get the vote out, no visiting town halls (the right has been hiding behind phone town halls since 2010, and what they did to the left with the ACA.

      And while posting on a blog can help a person vent and can show others here are other who have concerns and feel that way, if you think that counts as really helping to defeat those coming for us, you are not going to be part of the solution, but at best neutral, if not part of the problem by not showing the haters our true numbers.

      We need to find legal people willing to fight for proving the gerrymandered districts harm minorities by allowing politicians to pick their voters instead of how the Constitution is set up. There should have been this class action lawsuit since at least 2010

      • JWC

        I could not agree more so many on here are “Wha wha wha” get organized get activated they are

      • Chucktech

        We need to find legal people willing to fight for proving the gerrymandered districts harm minorities by allowing politicians to pick their voters instead of how the Constitution is set up.

        IIRC that’s one project that Barack Obama is going to embark on when he leaves office.

  • another_steve

    The “religious freedom” scam will be very difficult for progressives to overcome in court, in the coming years.

    It can be done, but it will require our brightest and sharpest and most strategic thinkers.

    • Maybe like calling God to the witness stand?

      • Chucktech

        Try Him in absentia.

    • FAEN

      Their religious ‘freedom’ is our oppression. If they can legally refuse us service where does it end?

      • another_steve

        Word.

        But how do we artfully and successfully make the case that “religious freedom” can be a bad and evil and illegal thing?

        • call it Sharia

          • another_steve

            “call it Sharia”

            Fail. Ours is a predominantly Christian nation.

            98% percent of American Christians won’t grok that connection.

        • FAEN

          It’s simply another version of Jim Crow and/or separate but equal. It never works.

        • Cackalaquiano

          I’m not a legal scholar, but it seems when the protection applies only to one specific potential religious belief (that gays are bad), that’s pretty shaky legal ground, no?

          • another_steve

            It’s very difficult. “Personally-held religious beliefs” is a very difficult proposition to refute, even in 2017.

            The theofascists know that.

            That’s why they’re running with it.

          • clay

            Historically, they’ve had no trouble refuting it in cases of conscientious objectors, even when member of a recognized Peace Church.

          • Chucktech

            When they play that bullshit Jesus card they should be REQUIRED to defend their “beliefs” in a court of law.

          • Lumpy Gaga

            Mmm. Abortion, too. Would have forced Catholic facilities to STFU and get out the vacuum cleaner.

          • Strepsi

            Yes it’s unconstitutional as it implies a government endorsement of one religion. So we need the NALTs (the “Not All Like That” Christians) to start some lawsuits saying their religion insists they treat gay people equally….

            as well as a lot of Muslim / Satanist / Humanist etc. etc. groups asking for equal treatment.

          • clay

            The same can be done with abortion, if the Reform Jewish rabbis will speak up.

          • Guest

            F&ck the NALT’s. They said they would call out the hate since they were not all like that. And then promptly did nothing. I think they issued a statement from their group they were here and that was it.

            I have beaten many friends who are religious with this group saying when my friends say there are not all haters in their group, that then need to prove it. They need to prove they spoke up once themselves. I force them to admit the hate tossed against us is far greater than they think it is. That is always my end game. I want to hear them admit their religion has the prosperity gospel, white Jesus, white privilege, and far, far more haters than they want to accept. When they finally are proven wrong, I tend to end up with better human beings as friends…At least to my face.

          • forcebear

            With fair judges, it’s untenable.

        • marshlc

          Take a leaf from the Satanists’ book, and fight it by applying it. When they see that it applies to other people, not just to them, they become a lot more cautious.

          • paganguy

            This. It certainly ended the Bible giveaways in public schools in Florida.

          • Kate

            Start by refusing to hire Christians, because it violates your religious beliefs. Watch their heads explode – if they win a lawsuit, then employers religious beliefs don’t matter, and if they lose, then you don’t have to hire Christians.

            Win-win, either way.

          • KnownDonorDad

            Religion, like race, is a protected class in all states. You can’t refuse to hire people on that basis, so that’s a non-starter.

          • Kate

            It shouldn’t be.

          • KnownDonorDad

            Well, to change it you’d have to, at minimum, repeal the Civil Rights Act.

          • Kate

            I fully support that, on a federal level.

          • KnownDonorDad

            And we’ve seen what happens without it – Jim Crow.

        • JWC

          Make them prove it is and how it does not fit all segments of society and is therefore predidicial

      • The only reason ever given to discriminate against gay people is the religious one. So if there’s a religious exemption then basically there’s no rule against discriminating against gay people.

      • Zoey

        Yeah, and here I thought not providing medical service was a line drawn too far so I never brought it up. I didn’t want to seem too hysterical. Shit.

        • forcebear

          This is just the start. They don’t care whether we keel over, starve, go back into the closet, or swallow their brainwashing poison–they don’t want us to exist as ourselves.

        • Kate

          This really shouldn’t be religious at all.

          I consider abortion to be murdering one’s children. I’m not going to pay for it, and neither is my company, or our insurance.

          • Zoey

            Yeah, I’m sure you consider a guys cum rag mass murder of innocent children too.

          • FAEN

            Right? I’ve always said that to men who consider abortion ‘murder’ but happily jack off three times a day.

          • Kate

            Not at all. Those all carry his DNA, and their death doesn’t mean any more to him than killing a few million skin cells does.

            Once the egg is fertilized, it is a new person, with new DNA. Unique DNA. If it’s fed (and not unlucky), it will grow into an adult, like any other human.

            A guy’s cum rag is his cells. An unfertilized egg is a woman’s cells. A fertilized egg is that person’s cell. Each and every one of was a cell just like that at one part in our lifetime.

          • Guest

            Then cry to God, as it, if it existed, is the biggest abortion provider of all.

            Oh, and the BuyBul gives no value to society of a baby until it is 1 month old.

            Oh, and in ancient Rome, ancient Greece, AND ancient Sumer, 1000’s of years before them, the start of math and writing, all allowed unwanted babies to be tossed in the local pit to die.

            You libertarian idiots are only pro birth and give no help to a child born.

            Birth control, and yes abortion all save society money, and help people.

            All rights are a balance between 2 or more people or groups. A fetus has zero rights. A woman has rights, including to her body.

            Strange how you want society to intrude on. A women but you have a fit about even reasonable gun control. Pick and choose is the way of the liartarian

          • Kate

            “Then cry to God, as it, if it existed, is the biggest abortion provider of all.”

            Nature is a cruel bitch, sometimes. Murder should still be illegal.

            “Oh, and the BuyBul gives no value to society of a baby until it is 1 month old.”

            It also says to stone adulterers, and a “righteous man” went “here, take my virgin daughters”. Not to mention talking snakes, and a lot of self-contradictory nonsense. It’s not a very good moral code.

            “Oh, and in ancient Rome, ancient Greece, AND ancient Sumer, 1000’s of years before them, the start of math and writing, all allowed unwanted babies to be tossed in the local pit to die.”

            Slavery was once legal – does that make it right?

            “You libertarian idiots are only pro birth and give no help to a child born.”

            I’m not a libertarian – I support a strong social safety net, for all mothers and children. Single payer healthcare, food assistance, day care, education through and including college.

            “Strange how you want society to intrude on. A women but you have a fit about even reasonable gun control. Pick and choose is the way of the liartarian”

            It’s immoral to take an innocent life. It’s immoral to take away someone’s right to protect their life from someone threatening it. The two are hardly incompatible – both protect the life of the innocent.

          • FAEN

            Don’t like abortion? Don’t have one. Isn’t freedom of choice terrific?

          • Zoey

            Freedom to them = taking away others civil rights.

          • Kate

            Don’t like abortion? Don’t pay for one. Isn’t freedom of choice terrific?

            You shouldn’t have the choice to murder an unborn child, any more than you have the right to murder it the day after it’s born. Society has the same right to intervene, for the same reasons. It is the job of society to protect the helpless, and there is no one more helpless than the unborn.

          • David L. Caster

            It’s not your body, and a clump of cells is not a baby, not by a long shot.

          • Kate

            Your two year old isn’t my body either, but I’ll vote to convict if you try to kill it.

          • David L. Caster

            False analogy. Killing a 2-year-old would indeed be murder.

          • Churchill

            When is it a baby then?

          • David L. Caster

            Technically speaking, when it becomes viable outside of the womb. Biblically speaking, when it takes its first breath outside of the womb, that is, when born.

            The confluence of science and Politics is discussed here and I would submit that public policy be based on the scientific definition of fetal age and viability.

          • FAEN

            Again, if you aren’t for abortion don’t have one. It is that simple.

          • Kate

            Again, if abortion is murder, nobody should have one. We protect our young as a species.

          • PeterC

            How about the pregnant person who has not the resources to provide for the child or herself? Oh the cruelty of some people.

          • Kate

            “How about the pregnant person who has not the resources to provide for the child or herself?”

            If society is going to protect our young, we can’t stop at the womb. Education, healthcare, government provided day care, meals. If it were up to me, we would have a strong welfare system for mothers, and an adoption system in place for those who choose not to raise the children they bore.

            I used to work for an adoption services company, and I saw the willing, able parents lined up to adopt and provide loving homes to children. My wife and I will be doing a homestudy ourselves soon. I have a standing offer (which I was nearly taken up on, until the mother changed her mind) – if anyone is planning on an abortion because they can’t afford to raise the child, we will adopt as long as their is room in our home. If our house is full, I know several others that would do likewise.

          • (((GC)))

            That language conflates embryos with actual living breathing people.

          • Kate

            Every living person was once an embryo. To protect you, we protect your embryo. We protect the innocent, because they cannot.

          • (((GC)))

            If the embryo that went on to become the child that I was had not been conceived, or had miscarried, or had been aborted — I wouldn’t be around to care.

            Embryos are potential children, that do carry great significance to people hoping to have children.

            Talking about protecting “the innocent” is also loaded language, as if embryos were actual children, actual people.

            I agree with you about wanting to protect people whether they’re one year old, or 10, or 100.

          • lattebud

            I not like Ike children. I am not gonna pay for them nor is my company nor my insurance.

          • Kate

            Good! I fully support your right to do that. When you own a company, and have to select plans, you should select one that meets with your beliefs.

          • marshlc

            And if I consider organ transplants to be meddling with God’s will, and therefore object to paying for it, having my company pay for it, or my insurance?

            We live in a society. In a society, not everything I pay for benefits me directly. I pay anyway because it benefits other members of the society, and them being better off is good for me. We’re a social species, a collaborative species.

            I live in a nation where we are all forced to pay for each other’s health care, and it works very well. You help pay for my abortion, I help pay for your knee replacement, and we’re all better off. The rest of the world looks at US health care with appalled pity.

          • Kate

            “And if I consider organ transplants to be meddling with God’s will, and therefore object to paying for it, having my company pay for it, or my insurance?”

            You misunderstand me. I’m not trying to say that religion should get any consideration at all. There’s an entirely non-religious reason to oppose abortion, in that it literally ends a human life. Whether or not that person is worthy of protection is debatable, but it’s still a human, with distinct DNA.

            I will not pay for someone else to kill their child using my company’s insurance. That’s not religion. It’s not about the social contract. It’s about lines I won’t cross.

            I, too, live in a country where we are forced to pay for each other’s healthcare (Canada). I pay for people’s abortions because I have no choice in the matter. My US company is a separate matter. We choose insurance, and I will not choose insurance that covers murdering of children.

          • marshlc

            Could I ask your opinion on capital punishment? Or on social programs that sustain life, after birth? Or is your concern for human life limited to not paying for abortion?

          • Kate

            Capital punishment?

            I see death as the humane option (compared to life in prison), but that didn’t come about until I was actually sitting in a cell. Given that the government makes mistakes, I’d like to see it implemented the same way as for everyone else – you can choose to get a psychiatric evaluation to ensure it’s not a temporary break, then state-provided euthanasia.

            Life in prison is barbaric, too – I’ve seen someone get life in prison for stealing a bathmat (it was on a patio, so an occupied structure, and burglary of an occupied structure is a “violent felony”, so three strikes kicked in). If it were within my power to do so, I’d go to a more European model where the largest sentence handed out was 20-some odd years, and the emphasis is on rehabilitation. If 20 years isn’t enough to deter you, 80 won’t either.

            I’m OK with state-sponsored execution in a few, very rare cases. Someone who escapes prison and murders again, for example, where guilt is absolute and imprisonment not good enough.

            As for social programs, I support a strong welfare system, particularly for children. While I dislike otherwise healthy and capable individuals choosing not to work when they are able to do so as a matter of policy, I also recognize that there are people who are genuinely unable to work through no fault of their own. As a society, we pay taxes, and the social insurance network should be there for those in need.

            Additionally, one of the biggest reasons women get abortions is that they are unable to care for and raise a child. Programs that assist women in raising their children will reduce abortion (as will access to contraception). The opportunity a child has should not depend on an accident of their birth, and healthcare should not depend on one’s employer or job title. Many people are trapped in their employment to keep their insurance, and a single-payer system can help reduce the cost of care significantly, and not just by taxing some people to pay for others.

            Every right we have depends on our ability to live, so society should protect that life. Education is a cheap investment, so it should be free and universal. Long term, automation is going to destroy most jobs, and there will be a point where we can’t retrain fast enough. I suspect we’re going to have to go basic income, and it’s wrong to fault anyone who can’t work for failing to do so. It’s inhumane (for example) to use people for the jobs that forklifts do, and we’re not going to make more new jobs fast enough. We need to get from here to there, though, but it’s coming.

            No, my concern for human life is not limited to abortion at all. I’m a strong believer in both birth control and adoption as a means to deal with the matter of unwanted children and people who are unwilling or unable to take care of them. We need to take care of our people, one cell, one year old, or 100.

          • Until the fetus is born and draws it’s first breath, it is not a living being. It is nothing more than a collection of cells that can become a human life, but is not yet.

          • Kate

            It performs cellular function – metabolism, respiration, waste elimination. It’s alive as any other organism.

            It has human DNA – it’s human.

          • Dom Saunders

            Honey, goodbye. By that same logic, you should be getting mad at every man who masturbates, because human sperm contains DNA too. They don’t even get a chance to fertilize an egg. But no, in your one-track-mind-wisdom, you ONLY focus on women and their eggs. You don’t give men any bit of flak in ending potential human life in that manner as well. I wonder why that is? What isn’t up for debate, however, is the fact that you’re hypocritical and we see right through your crap. Check yourself and check your stupidity.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9cf352e6bafec1a4ee5756dc9f92c2e7c7fcf762beb1109071a5973e674dfd29.gif

          • Kate

            “Honey, goodbye. By that same logic, you should be getting mad at every man who masturbates, because human sperm contains DNA too. ”

            It does, but it’s that man’s DNA. What he does with his DNA is his business.

            “But no, in your one-track-mind-wisdom, you ONLY focus on women and their eggs. ”

            No, I focus on fertilized eggs, because that is the point at which a new organism is created, and new DNA is present. Not the mother’s, not the fathers – a new individual.

            “You don’t give men any bit of flak in ending potential human life in that manner as well.”

            Since I only care about fertilized eggs, the father doesn’t have much to do with it at that point (biologically speaking). Since it’s physically impossible for the father to abort the fetus, he doesn’t really enter into the abortion discussion.

          • PeterC

            And people are starving because of over population. Especially in low income areas. Abortion is a useful art. Do not deny it to people who need that service to survive in these times.

          • Kate

            “And people are starving because of over population.”

            Yes, they are. Birth control needs to be free, and universal.

            Exterminating people in “undesirable” areas would reduce crime and the population significantly, especially in low income areas. That doesn’t make it humane, no moral. Likewise, there are lots of parents who would see their income go up if they killed their 2 year olds, but it’s still illegal.

            Nobody should need abortion to survive. Let’s work on changing that, rather than slaughtering our children.

        • Cerberus

          Yeah, I’m looking at the coming years.

          At best it will become almost impossible to access any health-care as a trans individual, legal to fire me for being trans, legal to evict me from my home for being trans.

          And that’s at best. Many of Trump’s biggest supporters have been loudly talking about bringing back concentration camps, not to mention all the shit going on with nukes.

          If I survive what is to come I’m gonna be stunned.

        • catherinecc

          The Catholic church has been buying hospital chains around the country for at least a decade in order to create zones where all healthcare is theoretically dictated.

      • Todd20036

        Where does it end? Camps.

        Just ask the German Jews.

        • And a whole raft of others that the nazis found repugnant.

          Have you seen the documentary “Paper Clips”?

      • LaChatSayWha

        The way I see it, if one chooses to be a doctor, one chooses to uphold the Hippocratic Oath. If some people feel that their relationship with idols and sky-fairies prevents them from fulfilling their sworn duties as medical professionals, then they need to change professions. As usual, these assholes want everything their way.

        Which is why they voted the way they did. It’s too scary to imagine living life without all the protections and special opportunities their privilege has afforded them.

    • JWC

      I think there should have to be more proof. How were the Blacks finally integrated for they surely offended Whitey’s sensibilities much in the same way Gays offend the religious nuts Same story different players

      • another_steve

        When you get into the area of “faith,” you’re into treacherous cultural and legal waters. “Faith” is deeply ingrained in American culture. “Faith” symbols and vocabulary are on our dollar bills.

        I’m not smart enough to deal with this threat, but I’m confident that there are good people out there who are.

        • JWC

          Faith to a lot of these is a Sunday convenience my dad was an American from a large religious family biggest herd of crooks you would ever encounter

        • JWC

          Then let’s make GAY a religion Hells Bells why not there are enuff grounds and core beliefs Hubbard did it Brigham Young did it Get some crack lawyers and whip it up

          • another_steve

            True. The Mormons were very successful at it. Why not us.

            On the Planet Faggoty, Lord God Fairy Twink established a means for salvation of the masses.

            Follow me: Another_Steve, disciple of Lord God Fairy Twink.

            Trust in me.

            Buy my health supplements.

          • JWC

            Why the hell not they shamelessly plunder it all the time. I am serious DO IT I am north of the 49th so far we don’t need it but there has to be enuff crack gay lawyers to start it up

          • JWC

            Ok soap box has been put away I was just seeing too much sack cloth and ashes and Woe are we Now is not the time to lay down and offer our necks to these assholes. I hope someone got an spark of inspiration A gorgeous vsunset snd good Scotch here Happy New Year too all Chat tomorrow after aspirins and a “Caesar” or 2

          • another_steve

            When we here in the Lower 48 are totally theofascist-controlled, JWC, we’ll call upon you, our northern neighbors, to come to our rescue.

            Bring Beefeater gin with you, please.

            I live in perpetual fear that the theofascists will cut off my supply line to Beefeater gin.

          • JWC

            Steve I did not ask you what you were I was suggesting what you CAN BE

          • JWC

            Ok soap box has been put away. I was sincerely seeing way to much sack cloth and ashes and Woe are WE . Now is not the time to lay down and offer our necks to these assholes. Dammit we have come to far. I just hope others, someone else read this and got a spark of inspiration.A gorgeous sunset here and good scotch.Happy New Year to all Will chat tomorrow after aspirins and a “Ceasar” or 2

          • JWC

            Now is a great time for a new thrust. Gay advances are being threatened left right and centre Now is fertile ground to sow some new seeds Yes it’s a bit wild but no crazier than the shit we are battling Jim Obergefell wasn’t a young man and his partner ( since deceased) fought and won All you need is a foot in the door and it’s a useable argument and just as ridiculous as religious sensibilities

          • another_steve

            Love your new avatar, JWC. 😉

            Making a religion of my Gay will be tough.

            I mean, obsessive cleaning of the dining room tablecloth and excessive masturbating to Czech twinks?

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/49e9c5e4b9a10db232102492cd0cf092febe601055242c5d3d03645562f1257a.jpg

          • JWC

            heheh check out Mason star and Kevin Crows

          • BudClark

            Take a deep breath and join the Reform Jews, UCC, the Unitarian-Universalists, the Quakers, MCC, or the Episcopalians. They already have the mechanisms in place … vide MCC Cathedral of Hope in Texas joining the UCC, to have more structure and legal clout. The UCC was also partly responsible for bringing down the North Carolina “hate” constitutional amendment … they brought the lawsuit.

          • JWC

            I live in Canada I really don’t care

          • Jazmine

            figures

          • Steverino

            I have long thought anti-LGBT discrimination in the public sphere is in itself a form of religious discrimination (in reverse), and thus unconstitutional. If it is unconstitutional for a religious person to be discriminated against because of their religion, then likewise, it is unconstitutional for a religious person to discriminate against anybody on account of religion- either the religion of the discriminator, or the perceived religion (or lack thereof) of the person being discriminated against. In other words, that door swings both ways.

          • JWC

            I agree and it can be as easy as reflecting back on the religious right. the simple fact, It basically comes down to this.We all have the same rights, but when do your rights take precidence over my rights. What set of rules allows that. Look at those rules abd either negate them or use them inreverse.In this case Religious rights take precidence because we offend their sensibilities That is so undefined and bogus How bout we as Gays don’t pay school tax All I am doing is feilding idea Much more productive than WOE are WE

    • Cackalaquiano

      And in the meantime, we’re gonna have to get smart about naming and shaming businesses that do this in the media. Culturally, our side really is winning. If we counter with a popular “All People Served Here” campaign, and other smart responses, we can kill this faux “religious freedom ” bs once and for all.

      • Chucktech

        Sure, but Hobby Lobby was named, they have no shame, and fact wear it as a badge of honor. Fat lot of good it did.

        • Cackalaquiano

          Maybe that’s a good example to look at to figure out how we can be smarter fighting against these maneuvers from the Christian Taliban.

    • JWC

      I sent you a reply but I no longer see it posted

    • Ninja0980

      Indeed, especially when they can toss out the Muslims are killing us in the Middle East line.
      Someone the you’re not being murdered so shut up about your rights being rolled back doesn’t work for me.

  • DaddyRay

    I am hoping this isn’t the final post of 2016

  • greenmanTN

    What do you think his drag name is?

    I call dibs on “Pam.”

    • justme

      Morre like Immma Horr

      • greenmanTN

        True fact: The Museum of Fine Arts, Houston has a historical furniture and historical site called Bayou Bend, the donated home of a former governor’s daughter named… Ima Hogg.

        Despite the many rumors, she dud not have a sister named Ura Hogg. 😜

        • Indeed, and she was Miss Ima Hogg. One would imagine that having been saddled with a name like that, she’d marry if only to change her surname — or at least insist it be pronounced Eema. But she didn’t.

          Still, she was a remarkable woman, a keen advocate for women’s education, a philanthropist and patron of the arts and music.

          • greenmanTN

            Indeed. I worked at MFA,H for years and the docents at Bayou Bend were amazing, though a bit tribal, in that they didn’t mix with the rest of us, and I didn’t know if it was a River Oaks (where many of them were from) thing or something else.

  • JWC

    Texas really hates gays

    • FAEN

      Rural Texas more so. Rural America hate snow us. It’s because they’re out of step with the country not the other way around. We should remember that.

      • JWC

        Saying that America is out of step with Texas isn’t that like the tail wagging the dog

  • rusty57

    I’m starting to wonder if maybe god is more the problem than the answer.

    • Mark

      It always has been.

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      wonder no more

  • TrollopeReader

    How do all the nationwide injunctions seem to come from TX judges? Judge “shopping” should not be allowed.

    • Craig Howell

      This judge seems to be the very personification of Judicial Animus.

      • BudClark

        Um …

        “Judicial ANUS.”

        There.

        Fixed it.

        May he be afflicted with hemorrhoids the size of large grapes.

  • Mark

    Fuck. Off. that is all.

  • Anastasia Beaverhousen

    I am starting a new religion called, The First Church of Our Lady of Fuck U, let’s start our own rules and then let them talk about religious freedom.

  • Lumpy Gaga

    What exactly is a “burdensome change”? I get letters every year informing me of upcoming changes to my “insurance” with the calendar change.

    Seems to me that’s what they DO all day is come up with changes.

  • KQCA

    We must register LBGTQ as a religion. We must. It is our only hope to at least slow their progress in completely dehumanizing us.

    • Todd20036

      I like that idea, but the judges would never allow it.

      Just they don’t allow FSM to be a “real” religion

      • KQCA

        I wish I had started a “church” that required some LBGTQ type of behavior or ritual for membership while Pres. Obama was in office.
        I wonder, couldn’t the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence qualify?

      • Chucktech

        Actually, they do. That’s why you have Satanists threatening to go into public schools wherever there’s a “Good News Clubs” infestation or putting up Baphomat statues next to Ten Commandment monuments.

        So instead of making LGBTQ a “religion,” we should all just be Satanists.

  • karen in kalifornia

    The Antis deliberately brought this case in Texas looking for conservative and antigay federal judges. The Trump future is now already.

  • clay

    fucking Texas.

    • Anastasia Beaverhousen

      Secede already. You slow talking, bigoted , racist, two,faced assholes.

      • MBear

        They wont now. Alas

  • Boy Elvis

    We now await the Church of Satan’s clever response. It’s sure to come.

    • Chucktech

      THIS. And you know goddam well it’s coming.

  • Mike_in_the_Tundra

    Using the above argument, couldn’t a doctor refuse to care for a gay patient?

    • Anastasia Beaverhousen

      Yes they can. Sadly I know the doctor that brought that lawsuit during the AIDS crisis, I make his life as difficult as possible.

      • Mike_in_the_Tundra

        Good for you.

        • Anastasia Beaverhousen

          He is a prick.

    • clay

      but, but, . . . only as long as the patient refuses to be celibate.

      No, even longer than that. They’ve also refused to treat members of the Native American Church.

    • Spongebob CrankyPants

      With that argument they can refuse service to whomever they wish.

      • clay

        Which is why other courts have rejected this argument. But THIS dipstick . . .

    • The_Wretched

      yep

  • justmeeeee

    This is what it’s like to watch a country go down in flames, but bit by bit at first…

  • Lumpy Gaga

    Wait a minute. We already HAVE a national RFRA??

    • clay

      Yes, since the early ’90s. It’s primarily used to protect the religious claims of prisoners. BTW, it has written into it explicitly that it cannot be used as argument for abortion access, but can absolutely be used to refuse abortion access– somehow rejecting all (Jewish) ethics was “neutral”.

    • The_Wretched

      It was cut back at the Federal level by SCOTUS for telling States to do things that federal law cannot. The conservatives went for it as a limit on federal power vis a vis the States. Many States took that as a green light to pass RFRAs on steroids at the State level. Pence got in some trouble politically for the one in Indiana. Litigation against the State RFRAs is going on but much of the LGBTQ legal strategy is try to avoid cases that wind up going the wrong way.

      FADA is trying to regain the federal RFRAs former reach and then some.

  • Blake J Butler

    I’m really starting to hate Texas more and more lately with their backwards shit. I’m also going to start throwing knives at the people who let this happen because they bitched and whined instead of going to the polls and voted CORRECTLY like they were suppose to as self-respecting LGBT Americans, not self-righteous, childish, assholes.

    SCOTUS wasn’t just the big ticket, but also the district judges that the GOP refused to let Obama appoint. So many of them will now be picked by republicans.

    Give yourself a hand, you surely fucked everything for the next 4+ years for the rest of us so that you could find a “purity” candidate in politics, ironic of all places to try and look for one. Because there is no such thing.

    Because when the shit really hits the fan, which will be very soon, no one, especially me will feel an ounce of sympathy for you for what you’ve done.

  • Captain Jack

    Why don’t all these people just mind their own business, and leave me alone..I’m so sick of people telling me how to live my life for the past 60+years…..Just fuck off!

    • Chucktech

      My dear, they wouldn’t be christians if they weren’t up in your (and everybody else’s) shit.

  • TimCA

    Can I be discriminated against if I worship dick?

    Religious freedom!

    • teedofftaxpayer

      Once Trump and Company passes the Russia type anti gay laws, you won’t be allowed to worship dick unless you have a vagina.

      • TimCA

        Especially if Trump succeeds in appointing people like William Pryor to the bench. Pryor has opined that the government has a right to criminalize private, consensual sex between same sex couples. We won’t even be safe in our own homes.

  • teedofftaxpayer

    It’s a Texas Federal Judge, is that a surprise to anyone? Seems like Texas makes them stupid.

  • Dean

    We need an all-out attack on organized religion. All our Hollywood and recording artists need to push the meme that “religion is for idiots.” Win the cultural war first–then the legal results will follow. Notice that it is not cool to perform at Hair Fuehrer’s inauguration.

    • CottonBlimp

      Not enough people realize the truth of what you’re saying.

      In the 1970s, Big Business realized that everyone hated them. They had stayed out of popular culture and trying to influence public opinion, and realized they needed to change that. From that point on, our media has been rife with corporate propaganda, and we’ve seen the effect on our culture.

      When i grew up in the 90s, everything I watched was rife with pro-religious propaganda. Sitcoms from Sister Sister to the Simpsons had episodes about how it’s terrible not to go to church. Movies had the consistent theme that people without faith or who don’t believe in quack nonsense like ghosts or the paranormal are closed-minded fools. Hell, even the goddamn X-Men had an episode where Nightcrawler nags Wolverine into finding Jesus.

      This shit has to stop. Religion is the most blatantly harmful force on the planet – nothing else even comes close.

      • Stefan Heikel

        God I hated that Sister, Sister episode you’re talking about.

    • Idea

      How about digging up dirt on the Bible and announce it all across the media? If the Christians’ holy book is discredited, their entire religious system falls apart and there’ll be no more reasons to screw with LGBT and reproductive rights.

      • Chucktech

        Are you kidding?? Among reality based people, the bible really is self-discredited. I don’t know what more you could do to “discredit” the bible and all its attendant bullshit.

        • Idea

          But most people are not aware of that. The mainstream media (gee, now I sound like a rightwinger) is too nice to religion, refusing to report what scholars, historians, archaeologists, etc. have known for years: the Bible is a bunch of myths with little basis in reality.

  • Sam_Handwich
  • TimCA

    O/T: Having real serious Disqus problems today. Comments periodically won’t post. Notifications sometimes not coming in for hours (if at all) after someone responds to a post. Unable to change my sort options (Newest/Best/Oldest). Frustrating!

  • The_Wretched

    Doctors must be required to provide safe and legal health care that’s the standard of the profession. Refusal to provide health care “on religious grounds” violates the rights of many patients.

    This is bullshit.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      OTOH, the same way I don’t feel like digging into a cake baked for me by a fundie, I don’t think I’d want one digging around in my pussy. (Which of course is separate from the issue of facilities collecting all that sweet Federal money, and not wanting any restrictions WRT employment discrimination, patient care (!) discrimination, etc.)

      • Todd20036

        And if that’s the case, that better be DAMN good cake.

    • Every Catholic owned or partnered hospital (1 in 6 beds in the USA) has been making medical decisions based on their religious dogma for years now. They don’t even hide that their decisions for women, lgbt people and anyone at end of life will be made based on Catholic Canon, not medical best practices. It’s been brought up time and again by abortion activists & no one in the government seemed to care. That was the first inkling I had that the Dominionists (ie organized right wing Christians) were well on their way to a coup in America.

      • Chucktech

        As I’ve said many times, “Catholic” and “Hospital” should be mutually exclusive terms.

      • The_Wretched

        The purchase of hospitals by religious orgs should have been blocked as a matter of good governance. It’s an abomination.

  • MrRobotoLA

    The number of federal judicial vacancies Trump has been handed is terrifying. No matter if he’s gone 4 years from now, we’ll be dealing with the judicial ramifications for decades to come.

  • sword

    So…I guess a liberal Federal judge will declare all gerrymandering unconstitutional in time for the 2018 elections…covering all 50 states?

    • No, because somehow “liberal” means “follows the unwritten rules, always”.

    • Chucktech

      Let’s see what happens in North Carolina in March of 2017. That could either be the beginning of the end of this outrageous gerrymander crap or a big fat nothing-burger.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    But hey, both parties are exactly the same…am I right? /s

    • JWC

      Are you American or Canadian?

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        I’m Canadian, the husbotter is American.

        • JWC

          ah veru good Happy New Year

          • Jean-Marc in Canada

            To you and yours as well.

          • JWC

            have you introduced the Laddie to a Ceasar yet?

          • Jean-Marc in Canada

            Nope, no ‘real’ Caesars for him or me. Not because we don’t like them, but because we both have a shellfish allergy and, as you know, Clamato Juice is made with clams. That said, we do make our own version, with Tomato Juice and bit more pepper and Worcestershire sauce, he likes them. He also can’t get over Ketchup Lays or Poutine…he LOVES poutine.

          • JWC

            Understood,bloody marys then and fer Gawds sakes do NOT encourage him to say “eh”

          • Jean-Marc in Canada

            Too late. In fact, after we spent 3 weeks visiting friends in Newfoundland, he picked up the habit of saying “thanks love” and “lord ‘tunderin’ jesus”…I wish I was joking, but nope.

          • JWC

            ah Lard tunderin Jaysus

  • Lumpy Gaga

    The speculum must only be used to check altar boys for anal warts.

  • JellyDonut

    I am so over the alt-right

    • stevenj

      Every time I see the words “alt-right” it looks as though the words racist white nationalist homophobic sexist pig have been sugar coated and made more acceptable.

      • JellyDonut

        short hen that to just fuckers

    • You mean the white, male Christian supremacists? If so, please call them what they are. “Alt-right” is a nice clean media PR friendly term for bigots with multi-intersectional privilege.

      • Todd20036

        You both mean, Nazis.

  • Stephen Elliot Phillips

    Caitlyn jenner must be happy…….

  • Raising_Rlyeh

    103 more of these assholes on the bench, but hey at least trump didn’t use a private email server.

    • SoCalGal20

      Or give a speech to Goldman Sachs!!1!!1!1

      • Todd20036

        No. He just hired them directly.

  • Spudman
  • jaydee5000

    OK, here we go. This is the tip of the iceberg. While gays relaxed after marriage equality was legalized, thinking their worries were over, the Religious Right was massing and organizing like the Sith. This is only the beginning of the “religious freedom” nonsense they’re going to try to pull on us, and it’s time for modern day Larry Kramers to sound the alarm and scream, “Get off your complacent asses!” The RR has declared war on gays, so we have no choice but to fight back with everything we’ve got. This is our biggest challenge since the 80s AIDS crisis and if you don’t believe that, I can’t help you. This is going to take the efforts of every single gay person in America. The RR will win a few battles, but if we fight back as we should, they won’t. Gays have the best activists, lawyers and noisemakers in the country. It’s time we got back to work. Sorry we have to do this, but we have no choice, and if you don’t think so, talk to me when you wake up and all your rights are gone.

  • Barry William Teske

    HATE is so believable for some it can become prayer.
    Yet HATE does not have what all the rest of humanity shares.
    Confidence, time, but most of all – facts based on proof with patience as the enduring document.

  • Mike in Texas

    “Religious Freedom” is neither.

  • Ninja0980

    More then anything else, the Democrats biggest failure over the past 30 years is to take the courts seriously, especially when they’ve been in power.
    Republicans know that even if society wants progressive changes they don’t like stopped, put right wing hacks posing on the judges on the courts and they will do exactly that.
    Which is why they’ve obstructed until the cows come home and have gone out to pasture.
    And the worst thing is that again and again, the Democrats have let them.
    Patrick Leahy could have done what Orrin Hatch did and ignore the blue slips, which Republicans used to still obstruct Obama after the Nuclear option was done.
    He didn’t.
    Obama could have pushed harder for younger liberal judges like Goodwin Liu but he didn’t.
    I could go on and on but you get the idea.
    The Democrats and their base have never gotten how important the courts are.
    They are about to… the hard way.
    Too bad it will be too late by then.

    • The courts, the Congress, the local races & district making, the Census…the list goes on and on. I’ve given up on the Dems. Not because of what they’ve done, but for what they’ve failed to do after the GOP cheats, time and time again.

  • johnny

    Fail. Religious freedom and medical judgement in the same sentence.

    • Don’t let the ambulance take you to a Catholic hospital (1 in 6 beds in the USA. LGBT, women’s health & everyones end of life care decisions are loudly and *proudly* made according to Catholic teachings & dogma, not best medical practices)…

  • Mark

    ugh. texas. where black robes and white robes piss on ‘freedom’. If the white robes don’t get ya first…the black ones will.

  • J Ascher

    This is another example of why the country needs to stop allowing district judges to issue nationwide rulings. Only the US Supreme Court has nationwide authority. A judge in say, the 79th or 4th or 23rd district, can only affect enforcement of law or policy in the jurisdiction covered by said district!

    • So how is it that the judges of other district’s rulings are limited to their district, but this guy’s can be applied nationwide?

      • J Ascher

        The only thing I can think of is that the case involves an Executive Order rather than a law passed by Congress. IANAL, but the logic seems sound.

        • The ruling about trans students was just an advisory letter from the Dept of Ed – it was letting schools know that there had been sufficient court decisions that the Dept was letting them know they needed to comply with the law. This new one though regards the ACA – not an EO?

  • Charlie3

    This isn’t about religion. This is about the slow genocide of the LGBTQ Community by the right wing using an overt misinterpretation of a book of fiction written hundreds of years ago by men who used it to gain wealth and power. They are trying to replace the Constitution and Federal Law with the Bible just like Sharia Law does with the Quran. It is one of many blatant attempts to keep white, affluent, heterosexual, christian males in charge of everything.

    • The Dominionists are right on track with their 20-year plan.

      • KnownDonorDad

        I wonder if Trump even realizes he’s part of that plan?

  • Rebecca Gardner

    Fuck the world!

  • boobert

    trump will get to appoint twice the judges that President Obama inherited, plus at least one scotus. It won’t be pretty.

    • All because the GOP has been refusing to confirm Federal Judges for eight years, not just since Scalia died.

      • Todd20036

        Which was their plan all along.

  • fuzzybits

    Go suck a landmine you horrid people!

  • GayOldLady

    Just one final christian knife twist before the New Year.

    • Oh, no – they added an extra twist. The founders of the trans suicide hotline went through an immigration checkpoint (“papers, please!”) in Arizona on their way to California from Chicago. One of the couple is from India but her Indian passport still marks her as “male” – so they took her away. She’s currently in an ICE detention camp awaiting deportation. The two are married, but the non-Indian-origin woman was caught up in a batch of lost records that show her divorce (from someone who is already dead) so ICE is claiming the marriage is invalid.

  • Paul Weidig

    It’s already starting.

    • A person’s religious opinion now grants them the right to discriminate against whomever they please, according to this judge.

  • Dave Babler

    It’s shit like this that is pushing more and more to thinking we need not just LGBT equality, but to push for a Magneto-esque “homo-superiority*”; I realize this will be used by the Matt Barbers of the world to whine about us. IDK. I have had enough of their shit. The heterosexual community has been abject failures at leading the world.

    *Yes I realize this would be impossible to pull off, but maybe it’s time we fight for our rights with THIS kind of attitude especially with the coming political climate.

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      I like the way you think

    • BudClark

      Turn the WOMEN loose to run things. Pastafarius KNOWS the MEN have made a fucked-up mess of the world.

  • Talisman

    The women who are against abortion just can’t understand that “Conservative” judges and lawmakers will not stop at abortion – they are determined to restrict reproductive choices and access to contraception.

    They are determined to turn anything that is not straight, white, Christian male into an omega class, without even the benefit of citizenship.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      A lot of the neo nazis see the increasing diversity of our country as a threat and want lots of white babies to pop out of those wombs to give their side more numbers. Nazi Germany had something like this in that it encouraged young women to pop out kids that were to their liking.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensborn

      While many privileged not as religious women can’t see the anti-contraception part of it, this really is a huge part of what motivates fascist women and fundajelicals like the Duggars who see children not as products of love but quivers in their religious war. I kid you not. That’s is why the movement is called Quiverfull.

      As an aside, you’d think that people would GET how much this shit is bad considering I didn’t see a huge number of people wondering, “Gee, why are the Death Eaters considered bad?”

  • Henry Auvil

    Justice is the right of straight white christian males. So it was written 2,016 years ago. The rest of y’all can go die in a ditch.

  • We should all be getting scared at this point. This is a dangerous ruling – the Judge is stating that nationwide, a person’s religious opinion Trumps anti-discrimination laws.

    • stevenj

      I assume you understand this involves a non discrimination section of the ACA (as well as some abortion rights in the ACA). Anti discrimination laws nationwide (including gender identity) are still intact in the 19 states that have them and DC. 3 more states have LGB anti discrimination laws.

      In California trans people can still get the health care they need without discrimination by state law passed in 2005. Several other states have this same anti discrimination law as applies to health coverage.:

      https://transgenderlawcenter.org/archives/4273

      Hopefully this homophobic prick’s decision will be appealed and ruled unconstitutional.

      We are going to have to get past being scared. 200,000+ women are marching in DC the day after the inauguration. Resistance is not futile.

      • M Jackson

        My sister is. Owning up from Dallas for the woman’s march. She optimistically predicts a million.

      • Bob Conti

        It goes up to the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals… why do I see reversal unlikely?

      • RobynWatts

        I know that I, as well as 70+ women from Asheville, NC., that will be there! Speaking for myself, I wouldn’t miss it for anything!

  • Robert Conner

    Texas, realm of the Great Sky Baboon.

    • RobynWatts

      Texass: The Loud Star of Hate

  • TampaZeke

    Things are only going to go down hill from here. It’s about to get MUCH worse!

    Never let Trump voters forget that they are responsible for the coming assaults on women, LGBT people and other vulnerable minorities.

    • joe ho

      Never let liberals too righteous to vote for Hillary forget either. They have blood on their hands, too.

      Far-left icon Chomsky says those liberals who wouldn’t vote for her have made a very, very bad mistake.

      Republicans who destested Trump voted for him anyway. Foolish Democrats stayed at home or cast a protest vote. Hence, President Trump.

      http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/307570-chomsky-liberals-who-didnt-vote-for-clinton-made-a-bad-mistake

      • Chucktech

        Jesus, I’m in agreement with Noam Chomsky…

      • TampaZeke

        Hear, hear!

      • Marti386

        “Never let liberals too righteous to vote for Hillary forget either. They have blood on their hands, too.”

        I’ll be sure to, if I ever see any of these mythical creatures in real life. But personally, I’m starting to doubt their existence.

        • KnownDonorDad

          Considering 1.2 million people voted for Jill Stein, I wouldn’t say mythical. It’s harder to get at who stayed home out of some form of disillusionment with Clinton as opposed to people who just couldn’t be bothered to vote.

          • Marti386

            1.2 million people probably vote for the Green Party EVERY election.

            That’s not the same thing as “liberals too righteous to vote for Hillary”.

        • joe ho

          lol. You’re an idiot and blind to reality.

          From the Guardian:
          “Clinton significantly underperformed among under-40s, while Trump held steady relative to past Republican nominees. That young people weren’t defecting to her opponent but simply staying home suggests a lot of Sanders supporters couldn’t bring themselves to vote for her without their candidate on the ballot.
          “Many young progressives have chafed at the notion that they should support Clinton “just because” she’s a woman. Others were sufficiently put off by her ties to Wall Street or her interventionist foreign policy. She was cast as too centrist, merely the lesser of two evils, and the label stuck. It also wasn’t true.”
          From the Atlantic:
          “The “Obama coalition.” While Clinton’s campaign was focused on television advertising aimed at suburban swing voters, there were ample warning signs that African American and Millennial voters weren’t inspired by her candidacy. Polls and focus groups showed young people disliked both candidates; in interviews, black voters were unenthused. But Clinton’s campaign assumed they would show up for her simply because they were afraid of Trump.
          “Instead, many of them refused to fall in line. Eight percent of African American voters under 30 chose a third-party candidate, as did 5 percent of Latinos under 30, according to an analysis of the election results by the Democratic pollster Cornell Belcher. These “protest votes,” he argued, were enough to seal Clinton’s fate, even though this year’s electorate was just as diverse as 2012’s, and Trump did not do any better than Romney among young, minority voters.”
          http://www.theatlantic.com/pol

          • Marti386

            I seem to remember all the papers claiming Clinton was going to win by a landslide, too.

            You probably shouldn’t listen to their polls.

          • joe ho

            lol. I seem to remember all papers saying ‘polls tightening’.

            you’re a major idiot. try reality sometime.

          • Marti386

            “Polls tightening” is not the same thing as the loss that Clinton experienced. Not at ALL. All polls showed Clinton the clear winner, despite “tightening”. But good try.

            Lol, it seems YOU’RE the major idiot here. 😛

          • joe ho

            lol.

            Thanks for showing again what an idiot you are.

            Polls showed her winning popular vote by a couple of percentage points–within margin of error.

            Polls did not show her the clear winner. Nate Silver gave her a 70% chance of winning EC–which is not winning by a landslide. He emphasized that it was not a slam dunk.

            You don’t seem to understand how polling and statistics work.

          • Marti386

            Nate Silver showed her winning 302 Electoral votes to Trumps 235. A 67 vote lead that never happened. He wasn’t even close, and neither was any other poll.

            So please, continue to be a moron.

          • joe ho

            lol.

            He said she had a 70% chance of winning EC 302 to 235. He repeated it was not a slam dunk.

            You are clearly confused about statistics and probabilities.

            Seek help.

          • Marti386

            Whatevs, Joey.

            Maybe you could come with me and get help for your delusion that “righteous liberals” were the cause of Hillary’s demise. Cuz you sure haven’t proven anything close to it.

          • joe ho

            lol.

            The evidence of alt-left and anti-clinton green party defection is clear. Just as naderites sank gore in 2000.

            You’re too stupid to see it.

          • Marti386

            Really? And where is this “evidence”, Joey? Because so far you’ve just been farting smoke.

          • joe ho

            lol.

            plenty of evidence–for the abstention and protest vote of the left. plenty of evidence for your profound stupidity and confusion. you’ve got your head too far up your own ass.

            even far-left icon chomsky who doesn’t like clinton says liberals who failed to support her made a very, very bad mistake.

            http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/307570-chomsky-liberals-who-didnt-vote-for-clinton-made-a-bad-mistake

            http://www.newslogue.com/debate/111

            http://www.newsweek.com/myths-cost-democrats-presidential-election-521044

            http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/307570-chomsky-liberals-who-didnt-vote-for-clinton-made-a-bad-mistake

          • Marti386

            Know what’s funny? Morons who think putting “lol” at the beginning of every comment constitutes some sort of victory. Try acting like a grown up. You’ll find you get farther.

            All your articles are is a bunch of Hillary whiners trying to put the blame for their lame-duck candidate losing on Bernie supporters, all without a lick of actual proof. You do know what proof is right?

            The fact is, I and every Bernie supporter I know held our noses and voted for Hillary, even though we all told you she was gonna lose. But you all didn’t want to hear it. And now you’re all spinning like whirling Dervishes, trying desperately to convince yourselves that it was the fault of the mean ol’ liberals, instead of your repugnant candidate the the average middle class voter couldn’t get behind. The American people who voted for Obama expected change, and you gave us an old Washington insider. People are tired of that sh*t. So much so, they voted for a crazy billionaire, because at least he wasn’t from Washington.

            Next time try picking a candidate whose campaign doesn’t amount to “I know I suck, but at least I’m better than the other guy”. You’ll find that does wonders.

    • BudClark

      THEY DON’T CARE … as long as wealthy protestant white male supremacy is maintained and strengthened, at the expense of the hungry, the homeless, children, the poor, the disabled, the elderly, etc. Jesus has some CHOICE words for THEM in the Gospels they profess to believe, revere, and practice.

      • TampaZeke

        If we’re to believe the accounts of Jesus’ (not even the actual name of the first century rabbi who was later deified) existence he was a dirty, poor, hippy, Socialist, Palestinian Jew who denounced the rich, denounced religious leaders and gave away free healthcare.

        I don’t think that is the person Christians worship. They worship and follow a 20th Century conservative Frankenstein concoction of the Christapalist Industrial Complex.

  • Idea

    I think we should start looking for evidence to discredit religion, especially Christianity: Jesus’ body/remains, letters from the apostles admitting it’s all a fraud, reputable first-century accounts refuting the New Testament, anything. Then we show the findings on wikileaks, the news, and everywhere. Let’s see if the courts then side with something that’s a scam.

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  • Chances are that with critically bad decisions like this, this judge is trying very hard to get on the short list for a Trump SCOTUS appointment. And, if so, may he be Borked badly.

  • SDG

    FUCK YOU TEXAS!!!

  • Stev84

    Texas. Of course it had to be Texas. It couldn’t be anything else

  • Fear Not

    Fight back. By any means necessary.

  • Daveed_WOW

    They will always find a way to punish gender identity and female sexuality. It’s the main project of religion.

    • BudClark

      Well, Eve DID eat the apple (snicker!).

      • Daveed_WOW

        She had to ruin it for everybody.

  • BobSF_94117

    If the law was supposed to take effect today, how is it possible that insurance companies haven’t already altered their policies? It’s not burdensome to adopt something your insurance provider has already done.

    As for “termination of pregnancy” patients, this law isn’t requiring hospitals or doctors to provide abortion services. What are they complaining about, not being able to turn away a woman who has abortion-related complications afterwards? Of course, this makes one wonder what the law was trying to accomplish.

    • Friday

      They may have changed their policies: I think this is about rescinding any discrimination protections that might come to a case, as well as giving an excuse for bigoted providers to go back to noncompliance with civil rights and all.

  • Richard

    Another example of bigoted christians shoving their superstitious beliefs down everyone’s throat……

    • JWC

      i thot separation of Church and state are in your constitution?

      • Jazmine

        no it is not… it is only a state religion that is forbidden in the Constitution like that in England… or the middle east… there is no separation of church and state.

  • Rob Spangler

    He’s either Catholic or Southern Baptist. Religious Freedom my ass.

  • JWC

    Ok people Hillary did not win I think we have all pased that around as far as we could the wheres, the whys, the whos, the whats Its academic she lost. I also think there has been enuff hand wringing , saying we are lost, we can’t go on, we are back in the Dark ages. Well you ARE, if that’s where you want to be!! Sign off dig a hole jump in and pull it in after you OR look and the plate you have been served and analyse what you want to do with, where do you go from here. You are Americans, you are citiizen and you have as many rights as Donald J Trump or any idiot Republican who has told you you don’t One , is a person, Two, a thought. 10, a group and on until you have a movement.

    • Jazmine

      idiot republicans as you call them are saving this nation from the marxists who are stripping you of your rights as we speak… stop the stupidity and hatred along with the endless vitriol against our new president and the majority of this nation and dig in and help make this nation great once again… that is progress you fools, not condemning everything under the sun

  • John

    …and thusly it begins…

  • Franciscan

    It’s amazing how benighted Texas is becoming a center of reactionary jurisprudence these days, thanks to Republican judge shopping.

  • JCF
  • 3-Star

    What? He’s based in Texas? Tell me it isn’t so!

  • BudClark

    Tex-ass … nothing further need be said.

  • IamM

    Typical Republican one-sided misinterpretation of religious freedom.

  • Religion, the longest running plague on this world.