Feds Sued To Hand Over Russia Hacking Records

The Hill reports:

A lawsuit has been filed against the CIA, the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence seeking records pertaining to Russia’s interference in the presidential election.

Journalist Jason Leopold and Ryan Shapiro, a Ph.D. candidate at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), filed a lawsuit in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia on Monday asserting that the agencies have failed to comply with their request for documents under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).

Earlier this month, the CIA reportedly concluded in a secret assessment that Russia had intervened in the presidential election to help President-elect Donald Trump defeat Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton. That assistance, officials believe, included the hacking of Democratic email accounts.

In their court complaint, Leopold and Shapiro ask the court to require that the agencies immediately process the FOIA request. Leopold has been involved in several FOIA-related lawsuits, most famously one that contributed to the release of Clinton’s emails by the State Department.

  • bkmn

    Good for them. I fully expect Trump will order any and all evidence destroyed.

    • Bryan

      The absence of evidence will be conspicuous enough to show finagling, they’ll find enough destroyed documents to prove he tried to destroy them to prevent discovery – also illegal, and incriminating.

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      I hope Obama can rush this through. Trump’s lawyers will no doubt try to delay this until after the inauguration.

      (I just threw up a little in my mouth typing “inauguration”)

      • another_steve

        TLD, the JMG community needs to start thinking in terms of how we’ll spend inauguration day. I mean, it’s coming. Soon.

        It can’t be business as usual.

        We need Blogmeister Joe to pull out all the stops.

        We need the blogosphere version of a Bach fugue.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhRa3REdozw

        • That_Looks_Delicious

          I know I’m not going to watch it. That would be like watching a favorite pet get hit by a car and repeatedly run over. Just knowing that it’s happening is bad enough – there’s no point in looking at it.

          • another_steve

            If Joe wants to do one of his world famous open threads that day, I’m game.

            Me too. 😉

          • JWC

            under the Carrie Fishere Cinnabon Tag there is a message from a paulakey worth a read

      • Menergy

        well, it doesn’t “augur” well, that’s for sure

      • bill weber

        Obama has no interest in releasing it, or he would’ve made noise before the electoral college vote. (No president is going to order the release of this shit.)

  • another_steve

    Not sure my fey little heart can take the next four years. So much excitement, so much scandal and intrigue, each and every day.

    My doctor has upped my angina pills.

    • timncguy

      right, all the confusion and the “look over there! squirrel!” will allow the repugs to go about their business of dismantling the safety net and FDR policies without really being noticed.

      • another_steve

        I’m not so sure about that. I think the Sexual Predator-Elect and the congressional Republicans are underestimating the amount of anger out there. Fear is one thing. Anger’s another.

        I predict major major fireworks in the years ahead.

        Possibly the stagnation of American Government.

        • safari

          Possibly the stagnation of American Government. Steve, how could it get any more stagnated?

          • another_steve

            The complete and total shutdown of Congress.

            We’ve never seen that. Even under Nixon, Reagan and Bush the Idiot from Texas, we didn’t see that.

            Under Trump, we may.

          • bill weber

            How?

          • Todd20036

            Only if the democrats finally grow a spine.

        • JWC

          I agree with you 1000% and this next 3 weeks with 1.5 presidents running the country it shows Herr Flaming hair’s total ignorance

        • JWC

          Steve tell me I am wrong but I really feel Jan20 is not going to be a pretty day

          • another_steve

            I’m looking forward to it actually, JWC. I’m planning to have a fourth Beefeater Martini that day. That’s generally my pass-out point.

            So I’ll lay out my jam-jams on my bed and give my husband instructions regarding how to clothe my passed-out body in them and position me in my bed.

            I’ve done the same for him in the past.

            He’s a sports fanatic and when one of his teams has lost in the past — the game that took them out of tournament competition — I’ve put him to bed, totally stewed.

            Look.

            These are the things you do for your loved one.

          • JWC

            I will be fully supplied with munchies and libations and sit back watching in a Gladiatorial manner

    • gaymex1

      Joking aside, I have been more fatigued and under-the-weather since Trump’s victory than I can remember ever being. I don’t take any meds, but I may have to start. Drinking no longer helps. Well, it helps, but not enough.

      • TuuxKabin

        I was seeing a psychiatrist in Mérida briefly, when adjusting. He writes Rx. If you need his name I can contact his sister.

        • gaymex1

          lol. When I was younger I was seeing a couple of psychiatrists, but I was single then.
          Fortunately, we don’t need an Rx here. We’re not in the big city.

          • TuuxKabin

            No, no, not at all, nada flippant. But, I take it you were being flippant about ‘seeing a couple of psychiatrists’, as in, how they say, dating? Yeah. I met a psych the same weekend I met el HubCap, January ’81. Went for the cute Irish boy from the Bronx, son of a fireman, rather than the psych dude. Strong silent type rather than the constant analytical approach as to why was what and what was why.

            Ay, Tal día que hemos tenido hoy, no? Suspiro grande.

          • gaymex1

            Yes, dating. Then I married my female professor–Clinical psychologist–that lasted a couple of years. Then fifteen years later I met the guy I married and we’re still going strong. So different from the others. So easy to live with. So easy to trust. So easy to trust and love completely. I am a lucky man. Analysis not necessary.

            A very big sigh, indeed.

            By the way. My past life is one big yesterday. How do you manage to keep dates and places in order? I am amazed by that.

          • TuuxKabin

            “So different from the others. So easy to be with. So easy to trust. So easy to love completely. I am a lucky man. Analysis not necessary.”

            Uh, you got my ‘Bobbels’ down there? Then who’s this up here with me?

            We’re very lucky indeed. You describe to a “T” el HubCap. Ever a joy and loving playmate.

            My life’s also prolly as big a yesterday as any, how I manage to keep dates and places in order? Dunno. Capricorn moon and Cancer on the ascendent? Some part of the grey matter still functioning, I guess. Maybe I enjoyed so much, it’s fun remembering them. Now I’m curious.

            Time for hot milk n’ honay, sublingual hits of melatonin, two capsules of valerian extract and hopefully the land of nod.

            Hugs to youse.

          • gaymex1

            “Ever a joy and loving playmate.” We sometimes wonder aloud if straights have as much fun as we do. I’m sure they must. I just don’t see it very often. We can be really silly at times. I’m too old to worry about dignity and too old to waste my time by not being real with people. What you see is definitely what you get.

            Hugs to you too. I’m heading to bed myself. The bedrooms are down a path, so I will trail 3 dogs and a cat with me. If it were just a little warmer I hop in the pool enroute.
            Good night.

        • Treant

          To continue the flip, I’ve also been told I should see a shrink.

          So I started dating one.

          No, seriously, I married a psychologist whose brother is a psychiatrist.

          • TuuxKabin

            Double the pleasure double the fun, double the medication. Love is the drug.

      • another_steve

        I occasionally drink in moderation. Most of the time. Well, some of the time.

        Doing so gives me the illusion that I’ll live longer.

        • gaymex1

          I’ll drink to that.

        • Tor

          I also sometimes drink in moderation. The rest of the time I’m totally drunk.

          • another_steve

            To bastardize a saying occasionally incorrectly attributed to Ben Franklin:

            Beefeater Gin is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.

          • JWC

            back in the day of Ben it was Gin but hey we’ve come a long wat now its Scotch or Bombay Sapphire

          • another_steve

            So, JWC, when the server or bartender says to me, “Oh I’m so sorry sir, we don’t stock Beefeater… will Bombay do?,” I put on my sad puppy look and say, “Certainly, if I must.”

          • JWC

            now Beefeater Gin for Gin tonic and lime Bombay Saphire for Martinis Single malt scotch on the rocks or Grant’s the household scotch

          • Bad Tom
          • Ray Taylor

            Are you running away or just missed the box?

    • Natty Enquirer

      Don’t say “angina” around The Donald. It makes him randy.

      • another_steve

        Lol. You think he hears “vagina”?

        Does he want to grab my heart pills?

        • Guest

          He’s afraid of being grabbed by the Mangina. He should not have to worry.

          • another_steve

            I would — on a selected basis and with the utmost consideration and discretion — consider molesting his adult sons.

            Some here on JMG have blocked me for expressing that view — and if you should decide to join them, I would certainly understand.

          • Bad Tom

            There’s no accounting for taste, but blocking as a remedy seems extreme IMO.

          • another_steve

            Agree.

            You (generic “you”) can vehemently disagree with me 100 percent, and that’s perfectly okay.

            But if you impugn my or my dead mother’s character, then I block you.

          • JWC

            I would not block you anymore than I would molest those 2 idiots

    • Gerry Fisher

      I slump periodically. Sticking to my gym routine helps. A LOT! It’s a good, natural serotonin booster.

      • another_steve

        Gerry, husband and I just got home from goyim Christmas travel.

        They’re foodie animals, the goyim. His relatives, animals.

        I gained two pounds in three days.

    • safari

      Keep your poppers handy, I guess. :/

      • another_steve

        I remember poppers, safari. In 1972 NYC, any respectable gay dance floor reeked of the smell of poppers.

        We were young and innocent then. Just post-Stonewall, the world was newly-rediscovered.

        All things were new again.

        • that actually sounds like a remarkable time (not the poppers…not my thing). it must’ve been electrifying.

          • another_steve

            It was a remarkable time, Ed.

            And we survivors must not stop testifying to it.

        • JWC

          the Halcyon days of GAY

        • Michael White

          And HIV free. I lived in San Francisco from ’72 to 82. Good times

          • another_steve

            Oh as I was young and easy in the mercy of his means,
            Time held me green and dying
            Though I sang in my chains like the sea.

            ~ Dylan Thomas

      • Bad Tom

        You can’t get good poppers anymore.
        ——-
        sigh

        • safari

          True. I never have experienced real ones. You can get home-brewed bottles online these days that are pretty good. Whatever you get at a store is a crapshoot… especially if the bottles are behind glass and being lit. (I admired this dive ABS in San Bernardino that had their poppers in a fridge.) However, a bad batch can lead to things like permanent eye damage; and heaven forbid you actually find amyl nitrate.

    • JWC

      Hey Steve, I can only put in a couple of hours before I realize that todays crap is way worse than yesterdays crap and I know I will be saying the same thing tomorrow I just wanna get off this merry go round

      • another_steve

        The Way of Things, dear friend. 😉 What we Philosophical Daoists call “the Dao.”

        Agony and ecstasy.

        Ride the merry-go-round!

        • JWC

          My Brain Hurts

        • gaymex1

          Jeez how things change when you’re not looking. When I was a youngster Tao was the way; now it’s Dao. I guess I need to get out more. Old habits.

          • another_steve

            Lol.

            The word expressed in English is a sound-translation from the ancient Chinese.

            Some contemporary writers spell it “Tao,” others, “Dao.” 😉

          • gaymex1

            Sometimes my brain just gets tired. I’ve always pronounced it with the “d” sound. I assume that’s still correct…not that anyone cares in my neighborhood…lol.

          • another_steve

            Lol. Love you lots, gaymex. 😉

            Philosophical Daoists would say “not important” re how it’s pronounced.

            My husband — a very devout and very queer Catholic activist — doesn’t like the “jeebus” spelling of his Lord and Savior. So I never us that spelling in his presence or online presence.

            Out of respect for this incredible incredible man.

            The love of my life.

          • gaymex1

            Enjoy the love of your life, Steve. There’s nothing I know of that can top that feeling. Really, nothing.

          • Bad Tom

            Tao vs Dao is a characteristic problem of translating from an ideographic to a typographic language.

          • gaymex1

            Thanks. I was talking to a friend about that just a few minutes ago after having read your comment. Now, not only is there the difference in spelling, but Dao and Tao are taking slightly different paths.
            That’s definitely a problem for another day.

    • Robincho

      He puts pills up your angina?…

      • another_steve

        No. Please pay attention, Robincho.

        If I and all Medicare beneficiaries of my generation were to die, our doctors’ ability to pay their home mortgages and monthly malpractice insurance payments would severely be impaired.

        I am alive today primarily because my continued existence is advantageous to my primary care physician’s goal of sending his two teenage children through college.

  • clay

    I understand why the agencies want to keep their sources/methods secret.
    However, they are not law enforcement agencies; if they’re not in the middle of an active criminal investigation, what’s the danger in a (redacted) release?

    • bill weber

      That the evidence is flimsy? Even though liberals now take them at their word.

      • Bad Tom

        You are literally prejudging the evidence.

        How about if we begin with the assumption that the evidence will be evaluated fairly once it has been made public.

  • Bluto

    I don’t expect the FOIA will be around much longer.

    • safari

      They can just model it after Michigan: exclude the executive branch from FOIA.

    • DumbHairyApe

      Oh, it’s going to just be modified under the Trump admin. It’ll now be known as the “Freedom to Know Only the Information Donald Trump Wants you to Know Act.” Alex Jones will be in charge of it.

      • clay

        w/ a 140 character limit

    • Kim K’s Kute Koochy✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      he has twatter , who needs FOIA

    • Henry Auvil

      Freedom? Information? What were those things, daddy?

      • Bad Tom

        Daddy: (whispering urgently) Hush! We can’t talk about that anymore.

      • William

        Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength.

    • greenmanTN

      It will still be there, but will just be known as PHOOEY!

  • Sam_Handwich

    and this, also from today…

    In a new legal development on the controversy over former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s emails, an appeals court on Tuesday reversed a lower court ruling and said two U.S. government agencies should have done more to recover the emails
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-clinton-emails-idUSKBN14G1M4?utm_source=34553&utm_medium=partner

    • Color me not that smart, but after reading your link, I’m totally confused. What is this really all about?

      • BobSF_94117

        It’s all about digging and digging and digging and digging and digging and digging and digging and digging and digging and digging and digging and digging and digging and digging and digging and digging and digging and digging and digging and digging but only if we’re talking Clinton…

        • I just finished reading multiple websites about Email-Gate, and it seems as though it is more Benghazi-ish-ness nonsense. But thank you for explaining the new court ruling is about digging a hole to Jupiter if it could help bury HRC.

          • TrollopeReader

            you fly to Jupiter, you dig your way to China !!

          • Todd20036

            I knew I should have taken that left turn at Albuquerque.

          • You do it your way, and I’ll do it mine! ;-p

      • William

        Benghazi!

  • Tom000

    You have to weigh the importance of any information gained against any intelligence gathering techniques learned by parties with ill-will toward the United States. Remember information released in the trials of the 1990’s World Trade Center bombings may have been used in a later attack.

    • Natty Enquirer

      FOIA doesn’t require the handing over of data that compromises national security. But it does require that government agencies respond to requests and not stonewall them.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    The childish Nazi infighting is becoming rather entertaining.

    https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/813876561350893568

    • That_Looks_Delicious
      • William

        Why are either of these assholes still breathing?

        • Beagle

          Billy Joel answered that 40 years ago — darlin’, only the good die young.

    • BobSF_94117

      I haven’t been following… does “white genocide” mean someone is supposedly out to kill all us white folks or is this just another genocide conducted by white people.

      • Rebecca Gardner

        These assholes think that providing equal rights to blacks, lgbt, etc. are all forms of white genocide. These things are designed not to raise up everyone’s boat equally but rather to sink their yacht of white privilege.

        • JCF

          They’ve been pissed off ever since Loving v Virginia. Their biggest fear of “white genocide”: black dicks in their precious white wimmin’ folks hoo-hahs!

      • Todd20036

        White skin is a genetically recessive gene. That’s why if a black and white person mate, the child will have dark skin.

        The idea is that being white means being pure. And to be pure, you must have pure white babies.

        Blacks, Latinos, etc. are a threat to white people because their genetics can “contaminate” white people.

        LBGT are a threat because we bring AIDS and because we don’t make babies.

        Giving minorities rights will empower them, and make them stronger. That’s bad, because it takes away from the idea that whites are the strongest.

        The real answer is you have a bunch of lowlifes desperate to cling to something, and skin tone takes no effort to have or maintain.

        In short, white genocide is false, and it’s stupid.

      • Bad Tom

        White genocide is pretty much the same thing as miscegenation, and is an issue for the same sort of people.

    • Rebecca Gardner

      …and of course Wonkette has an awesome take on all of this.

      ‘Alt-Right’ Dillweeds Turning On Each Other Like A Bunch Of Heathers
      The “alt-right” morans organizing the great big Trump Inaugural fucktussle/lovefest called the “DeploraBall” (get it? Huh? It’s funny, right?) have finally found a venue willing to host them, but now the organizers are fighting with each other over exactly how openly Nazi-ish the celebration of their Aryan Jesus should be.
      http://wonkette.com/609811/alt-right-dillweeds-turning-on-each-other-like-a-bunch-of-heathers#X144JWjzrdBJVG2Z.99

      • GeoffreyPS

        Hah! Except at my school it was the Beckys. I firmly believe that all Beckys are bitches.

        • Rebecca Gardner

          Thanks for calling me a Bitch.

  • JT

    Obama should release the documents.

  • Lars Littlefield

    Mein Name ist Hase, ich weiß von nichts

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    Putin’s puppet will soon be sworn in. His first assignment – suppress this evidence.

    • safari

      Has a new “law” been named that describes how sufficient incompetence is often indistinguishable from deliberate malice?

    • bill weber

      Obama & Co are doing a fine job of that…

  • jm2

    They’ll probably be completed redacted except for the page numbers! National security, you know…..

  • JCF

    “Leopold has been involved in several FOIA-related lawsuits, most
    famously one that contributed to the release of Clinton’s emails by the
    State Department.”

    Whose side are they on? Honest question.

    • You’ve gotten too used to the MSM — journalists don’t take sides.

  • That_Looks_Delicious

    Oooowheee!! Lindsay Graham is having none of the Trump camp’s excuses on this. “There are 100 United States senators. I would say that 99 of us believe the Russians did this and we’re going to do something about it.”

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/lindsey-graham-shoots-down-trumps-denials-99-senators-believe-russia-behind-dnc-hacks/

    4 years ago, I would have never believed it if somebody had told me that Lindsay Graham would eventually end up being my favorite Republican. But whoop, here it is.

    • Barry William Teske

      Faux Outrage.
      In a democracy repecting nation, the malfeasance documented would be a cut and dry case of treason.
      My favourite nation has some soul searching to do.
      It is not going to tickle…

    • Tiger Quinn

      I can’t believe our hopes are pinned on Lindsey Fucking Graham, Queen of the Fainting Couch.

      • Todd20036

        I thought Lady Bird was the queen

        • rusty57

          Well, she’s certainly the Queen of denial.

    • Dirk Prophet

      We don’t have to wonder who the one senator is.

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        Would you be referring to Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III?

        • Brian in Valdosta

          Oh, fiddle-dee dee. I do declayah.

    • So what exactly is stopping them from ‘doing something’ about the situation right now?

      It’s not like they have to wait for January to be the majority party.

    • William

      Mitch McConnell is off my Christmas card list.

  • Ron

    Ah transparency! How will be reminiscing about it in 2020!

  • KP

    It behooves everyone in DC to normalize Trump and the Russian hacking.

    People might actually see who and what run$ our government otherwise.

    • stevenj

      I’ve gotten the impression throughout my adult life that the majority of Americans simply do not want to know the truth about how their government does business. JFK’s assassination (as well as RFK and MLK) should have been a huge wake up call.

  • Dirk Prophet

    It’s a bunch of secret spies doing secret spy shit.

    However, a comprehensive report by the NSA, without revealing sources and methods, would be most helpful.

  • TheManicMechanic

    What evidence? That was destroyed once Trump was declared the winner.

  • The Return of Traxley

    And the Democrats’ response:

    “What’s the number for building maintenance? We’re out of toilet paper in the men’s room again.”

  • Andymac3

    I look forward to the day that Twitter blocks Trumps account and uses it as leverage to stop some of his policies. He would feel powerless without it.

  • Max_1

    Question:
    Would Twitter ban Trump if a Tweet started WWIII?

    • William

      The electromagnetic pulse caused by atmospheric nukes exploded at high altitude will wipe out all modern technology. We will go from the internet age to the stone age in seconds.

      This is one area Russia is better off than the US. They still use older technology in defense and communication systems.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_electromagnetic_pulse

  • Professor Barnhardt

    If it’s any help, here is the Department of Labor’s FOIA splash page:

    Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)
    https://www.dol.gov/dol/foia/FOIASubmit.htm

    The links can take you to government-wide FOIA sites.