Revenge Gifting In The Name Of Donald Trump

Via Business Insider:

When John Tereska’s Trump-voting family members open their gifts from him on Christmas Day, they will get a shock. Inside pretty boxes they’ll find notes thanking them for making donations to organizations like Planned Parenthood and the Sierra Club that support causes expected to come under attack from the new administration.

“With my oldest brother, who I know voted for Trump, I’m going right for the jugular. I’m donating to the Democratic National Committee on his behalf,” Tereska said.

Tereska, an avid Hillary Clinton supporter, is so mad at the relatives who voted for Donald Trump in November that he’s giving money to progressive not-for-profit organizations in their names, in lieu of Christmas presents this year.

“It’s revenge giving,” he added, with relish. Many devastated Democrats have decided the best way to make a point to their loved ones with polar political views this holiday season is to put their money where they wish their relatives’ mouth were.

Other “revenge gifting” organizations named in the above-linked article include the Human Rights Campaign and the SPLC.

  • Gustav2

    When a lump of coal just won’t do…

    • TuuxKabin
      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        no, no, he should have dumped in reindeer poop.

        • TuuxKabin

          wha’ ev’s.

          • Gustav2

            One of the hubby’s office mates gave him some Snowman Poop…relabeled Tic Tacs.

          • TuuxKabin

            Colorful.

          • Gustav2

            White.

          • John30013

            We used to sell little baggies of those white Styrofoam packing “peanuts” as “snowman poop” in our antique store :-).

        • cleos_mom

          Reindeer poop probably isn’t as stinky.

        • Phillip in L.A.

          But then there would be no exposed male thighs and so forth!

    • Paul David

      Where does one even get a lump of coal?

      • Phil2u

        ….incredibly hard to find. When I was growing up, there was a business in our small town that was a coal yard in the fall and winter and an ice house in the spring and summer. I’m not that old.

        • Librarykid

          We had Atlantic Ice and Coal by the railroad tracks. We would go there to buy a block of ice when we were making ice cream. I don’t even know if bags of cubes were available back then because the adults would chip up the block with an ice pick.

          It was a tall brick building and nobody knew what went on inside, but it probably housed one of those ammonia refrigeration systems where metal boxes sat in super cooled brine to make ice because the place was old as time and dirt. It was not that far from the depot and probably supplied both commodities to the trains at one time.

          • Phil2u

            Our coal yard and ice plant business was also beside the railroad. There was a warehouse for goods shipped in by train between it and the depot. Yes, we would get huge chunks of ice in the summer for making ice cream and for filling a big metal cooler for road trips. We always packed a large lunch and iced tea; we never ate lunch in a restaurant. Ah, the nostalgia!

      • Todd Allis
      • Gustav2
      • Crow on a Top Hat

        You can use a bag of the charcoal stuff used in grills. They come in “lump” form.

      • Piercedchrlz
      • TrollopeReader

        supposedly, *not* in KY or WV anymore.

      • lymis
  • Michael R

    Give them fake gifts to go with their fake news and fake president .

    • Paul David

      I so so SO hope that, come the new year, Paul Ryan will give grandma the “gifts” of handing her Social Security over to Goldman Sachs and block granting her Medicare to her wonderful state government…whereupon her state congresspeople will cap her yearly benefits at $5.37 and give the rest corporations.

      • cleos_mom

        And will Gramma’s Devoted Family suffer voter’s remorse when they find out they’ll have to make room for her and start calling themselves ‘caregivers’?

        They might, but will probably just blame Obama, teh gays and uppity wimmins.

        • Paul David

          I guess.

          Personally, I’d let Grandma starve…she deserves it.

          • Grumpy Old Man

            Do we share grandmas?

          • Paul David

            Likely not.

            But she deserves to starve.

          • Grumpy Old Man

            Sigh! One of my grandmas fell off her chair and broke her artificial hip; she stopped eating – no one says anything but the feeling I get is that starving was deserved.

          • Paul David

            Did she vote Trump?

            Did she vote to fuck over both brown people and the grandkids?

            If so…yeah, she kinda deserved it.

            When Granny shouts “help, I’ve fallen and I can’t get up!” the answer from the grandkids needs to be, “sorry, Grandma, but we can’t help you…since our main concern is preventing you from voting in the 2018 midterms and, specifically, in the 2020 presidential election!”

      • ColdCountry

        I certainly hope not! I’m one of those who depend on both SS and Medicare, and have no family to move in with. Could you please find another curse to wish on those you don’t like?

        • Paul David

          Sorry, Cold.

          I certainly don’t wish that on you…but there’s a 90% likelihood that the remainder of the social safety net will be destroyed under Trump.

          The GOP sees him as a great way to push through all the unpopular goodies they’ve been unsuccessful at getting through to date.

          • ColdCountry

            I know, I know. I’m hoping that my soon-to-be former state rep is correct in that they won’t screw with either too badly. His feeling was that there were so many of us old farts that they wouldn’t dare because we’d ruin their political careers.

          • Paul David

            Well let’s hope.

            But I doubt it.

            The feeling of glee that is emanating from the GOP establishment you’re feeling is a wonderful understanding on their part”

            1.) The most zealous and incoherent among them now control two branches of government, and will soon extend control over the judiciary for the rest of my life.

            2.) The Trump administration can be used as cover to push through all the unpopular initiatives they’ve wanted to push through for years but couldn’t due to people like you!

            3.) Success or failure for Trump will be success or success for the GOP establishment, since if his administration goes down in flames and becomes extremely unpopular they can still push through all the unpopular goodies they want all the while disavowing Trump as “not a true conservative,” and if he remains popular amongst the base they can full embrace him as a paragon of conservatism…and push through all the unpopular goodies they’ve always wanted.

            And Granny will still vote for him! Why? Because he is a racist turd and so is she!

    • Christopher
      • EqualityForAll

        I assume you meant to throw the child or politician into the fire. Gift wrapping is so expensive these days.

        • Christopher

          Good point!

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    • Todd20036

      Not off topic. Trump is dissolving his Trump Foundation. Because you know, Hillary’s Foundation was so crooked, or something.

      Funny How the Clinton Foundation still exists even though Clinton lost, but the Trump foundation didn’t even survive to the inauguration.

      Guess Trump grifted all he could out of it, now that scrutiny is on him

      • Michael R

        Wow Trump is being so transparent now
        , no wait , he’s still a complete fraud

        it was discovered that in 2016, the entity had raised more than $25,000 in New York without proper registration according to state law. New York’s attorney general sent a “notice of violation” to the Trump Foundation calling for the immediate cessation of all solicitation and fundraising activity in New York.

        IMMEDIATE CESSATION .

      • SoCalGal20

        He can’t actually dissolve the foundation until the NY AG is done investigating. 🙂 (Also, there’s probably some new foundation grift that hasn’t been discovered yet)

        • TrollopeReader

          heh!

        • lymis

          Isn’t there already an Eric Trump Foundation?

          • Scott MB

            Yuppers, I am sure they will just grift the money from that “charitable” foundation. They still needsome charity to pay legal bills and personal renovation costs. Come on you think they would use their own money to do the reno on the White House. You know it’s going to have gold bathrooms throughout.

  • Lazycrockett

    Do it Sharon Osbourne style and wrap up shit in Tiffany Boxes.

    • ByronK

      Does Tiffany wrap shit up in Osbourne boxes?

    • TampaDink

      But Tiffany is the best (and only) hope for a trump spawn to become a decent human being! 😉

    • canoebum

      Why waste a good Tiffany box when a lunger in a baggie will do?

  • karen in kalifornia

    Likewise. I gave gift memberships to environmental legal organizations, the NRDC (Natural Resources Defense Council) and the Center for Biological Diversity to my republican siblings. I chose these two environmental organizations over a couple of others because when you go to their websites there are giant pop ups about stopping Trump and his about to be terrible legacy when it comes to nature. I figured ACLU or Southern Poverty Law Center donations would be scoffed at but not environmental ones. I made my own ACLU donation.

  • PickyPecker
    • Bryan

      Oh God I forgot he sang that. How…..scarily prescient…

  • Pollos Hermanos
    • PickyPecker
      • Mikey

        LOL, what film is that from? I love seeing Professor X as a “bad guy”.

        • Dazzer

          It’s from a film called Filth that’s based on an Irving Walsh book of the same name.(so it’s all in a thick Scottish accent).

          McAvoy plays the most bent of bent coppers – and it’sprobably the finest acting of his career thus far.

          He is amazingly good – but it’s not an easy film to love on first viewing..

          • grada3784

            He did give me a severe case of Faun lust in the 1st Narnia movie.

          • Jerry

            I liked that film…but some of these I have to turn on the subtitles.

    • TuuxKabin

      That’s the spirit, sweetheart.

      • Phillip in L.A.

        “Get away from me, kid, you bother me.” –W.C. Fields.
        I’ve been getting a lot of mileage out of this one, T K! ;}

        • TuuxKabin

          Madre de perla, Phillip, long lost, haven’t see Pharaoh in ages. How are you two? Getting a good drenching?

          No doubt you’ve been gettin’ good mileage out of that one!

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_JzY_6eWvE

          That was el HubCap going out side to greet the carolers and kiddies playing in the snow. Just took the curlers out. Glad I didn’t join him. The fookers.

          The Bay Area’s freezing cold from what the elves tell me. A balmy mid 40’s here. Just in from ‘a callin’. Merry Christmas and season’s greetings.

  • TuuxKabin

    No gift like Mother Nature’s gift. But it’s a shame the poorest will be worse off.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/24/philippines-braces-for-severe-typhoon-on-christmas-day

    • pch1013

      Has Duterte blamed the US yet?

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        He should ask his new friends for help.

        • pch1013

          China will be happy to oblige, in exchange for total control over the South China Sea.

          • Skeptical_Inquirer

            I wonder if the Filipinos will be happy with that kind of bargain or if Duterte will end up a victim of the kind of behavior he had been happily encouraging.

      • TuuxKabin

        He probably will.

    • OdieDenCO

      on Christmas day? you think tony perkins will see this as punishment or test?

      • TuuxKabin

        Yeah, Christmas day. A test, as in, these things are sent to try us, and they do. As if he’d even care, let alone notice.

      • grada3784

        Tom Delay? Tidal Wave hitting Thailand?

        I’d bet the house on it.

  • pch1013

    None of my relatives is a Trumpanzees, but Ive made donations in their names in lieu of gifts anyway. And they’ve done the same for me.

    • Reality.Bites

      What you’re doing is fine, but I really don’t agree with what the guy in the article is doing. By all means he should give the money he’d have spent to whatever charity he chooses, but putting someone’s name on a donation they’re opposed to just isn’t cool. If someone donated to the Republican Party in my name they’d be out of my life.

      • I kinda agree. Not sure what “revenge donations” do except make everyone angrier, not try to explain why we feel the way we do. I made donations to Planned Parenthood and the Children’s Defense Fund in honor of Hillary Rodham Clinton. (The latter wrote me a letter and said I was one of 800 people since the election who did that.) And I converted my monthly donation to her campaign to a monthly donation to the national ACLU, because they’re going to have a lot of work on their hands next year.

        • Chucktech

          That’s very nice.

          But it seems to me that we’ve had a good year and a half to explain why we feel the way we do.

          • Skeptical_Inquirer

            Also I’d rather good things happen to the charities involved. Giving actual gifts to Trumpeteers is a total waste of $$$.

          • Phillip in L.A.

            Exactly. You said, “get over it gurl” very adroitly. ;}

        • Skeptical_Inquirer

          I don’t know. A lot of the Trump voters (including one in my office) openly gloated. They should know that if they dish it out, they’ll get it dished back at them.

          • pch1013

            And let’s not forget those Breitbart “snowflake” ornaments.

      • David L. Caster

        I think that is the idea and whole point of the exercise.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        I think that for some people, it’s the best kiss-off. Voting for Trump was the last straw and they’re not going to any more holiday dinners.

      • 2guysnamedjoe

        I think that’s his plan — a farewell f-you, for a good cause.

  • Acronym Jim

    “When John Tereska’s Trump-voting family members open their gifts from him on Christmas Day, they will get a shock.”

    Well, NOW they won’t. Way to ruin the surprise, Business Insider.

    • OdieDenCO

      the tree of liberty must, on occasion be watered by the surprise of gifts

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    OT: vet groups are nervous.

    http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-veterans-20161222-story.html

    Rieckhoff’s group and other major organizations have urgently requested to meet with Trump. They have not been able to get a commitment. The transition team instead sent a delegation to talk with them which included Omarosa Manigault, a star of Trump’s reality TV show “The Apprentice.”

    “It is actually insulting,” said Rieckhoff. “The highest-ranking person the leading veterans services organizations have met with is Omarosa.”

    • Michael R

      Hopefully things like this is what will turn people against Trump , of course he’s just going to make empty promises and delay delay delay .
      The best empty promises .

      • Barry William Teske

        Only the BEST EMPTY PROMISES.
        Some of the BEST EMPTY PROMISE makers told him so.
        EMPTY PROMISE MAKERS are good people.
        EMPTY PROMISE MAKERS are the BEST people.
        They PROMISE that to each other all the time…

      • pch1013

        Only if the broken promises get reported on FOXNews or Breitbart. Which they won’t.

        • Skeptical_Inquirer

          I think the vets need to do a “Standing Rock” type protest against Trump if they want to show how pissed they are. It actually gets eyeballs.

      • 2guysnamedjoe

        It’s working pretty well for him so far.

    • Ben in Oakland

      They’re just the little people. omaRosa is good enough forg

      • OdieDenCO

        the contempt is obvious. send them an entertainer to keep them occupied. he’s supplied the circus, wonder what form the bread will take?

        • Ben in Oakland

          Whatever crumbs they can find on the floor next to the table…

          The one with the solid gold dinnerware.

          • olandp

            Hell, it isn’t even gold plated, it’s gold painted.

    • The Return of Traxley

      Someone needs to pick passed-out Sarah Palin out of that puddle if her own drunken vomit (again) and explain the situation. Quietly and in a darkened room.

      We may get a semi-coherent tweet in a couple of hours or so.

    • Jerry

      Wait until he privatizes (and ruins) the VA.

    • olandp

      What do they expect? Republican always fuck over veterans, yet the vets keep voting for them.

  • Robincho

    We’ve always heard ’tis better to give than receive…

    • Treant

      That’s certainly true, but it can be very nice to watch while somebody else does the giving.

      • Robincho

        Yeah, I’m a watcher too. And bottoms’ faces are among my very most favorite subjects…

  • AtticusP

    I hear that the Rockettes have a special treat planned for Hair Gropenführer…

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/154ca7880b98d9d6bf3ffac55370284f4684895fa6e5bbb7fd6e1a8c499f88ea.jpg

  • bkmn

    I would add the ACLU to the list, they are going to be very busy.

  • Sam_Handwich
    • Michael R

      I smell deep dark trouble

  • These Organizations Will Critically Need Support During Trump’s Presidency

    American Civil Liberties Union

    ACLU is an organization working to defend the fundamental rights and liberties afforded Americans through the Constitution. It has already raised a record-breaking $7.2 million in the wake of Trump’s election. As Anthony Romero, the ACLU’s executive director, told The Huffington Post earlier this month: “Immediately, we are working across the country to protect the rights of protesters and ensuring those who voice their concerns know their rights.” In the coming months, the ACLU plans to work to block mass deportation efforts, protect DREAM Act immigrants, and stand up against bigotry aimed at vulnerable Americans ― such as trans people and Muslims ― and more.

    Planned Parenthood

    People have already made an important and highly visible stand for Planned Parenthood by making donations in Pence’s name in wake of the Vice President-elect’s anti-abortion, anti-LGBTQ beliefs. Trump’s victory is set to reinvigorate the battle over abortion rights and women’s health in new ways, so it’s imperative that the LGBTQ community continue to invest our time and energy in protecting Planned Parenthood. Head here for more information on the organization and the #WeWontGoBack campaign.

    Southern Poverty Law Center

    A critical non-profit that combats hate, intolerance and discrimination through educational programs and litigation, the Southern Poverty Law Center has played a significant role in tracking the massive spike in hate crimes across the U.S. following Trump’s election. Going forward, the SPLC will be instrumental as we monitor the troubling rise in activity of the Neo-Nazi movement, the Klu Klux Klan and other hate groups targeting minorities with harassment and violence.

    Lambda Legal

    The oldest national legal organization dedicated to fighting for the rights of the LGBTQ community and Americans living with HIV, Lambda Legal is committed to fighting for the civil rights of all queer and HIV+ people through “impact litigation, education and public policy work.” The Lambda Legal website has an important tool for understanding the legal protections LGBTQ people have in each state, and the organization does not charge clients for legal representation or advocacy work.

    National Association for the Advancement of Colored People

    NAACP is one of the largest and most influential organizations fighting for both the rights of African Americans and against racial prejudice in the United States. As Trump continues to stack his administration with straight white men and literal White Nationalists, it’s imperative that we support and advocate for organizations fighting to break down institutionalized racism in America and, as the NAACP itself puts it, “ensure the political, educational, social, and economic equality of rights of all persons and to eliminate race-based discrimination.”

    Council on American-Islamic Relations

    CAIR is a Washington D.C.-based Muslim civil-rights advocacy group dedicated to promoting a positive image of Islam and Muslims in the United States. With Trump threatening a national Muslim Registry and hate crimes against minority groups massively increasing in the days after the election, it’s critically important to support organizations like CAIR and commit to standing beside our Muslim brothers, sisters and siblings in the face of institutionalized discrimination under a Trump presidency.

    Rape Abuse & Incest National Network

    RAINN is an anti-sexual assault organization that works with local rape crisis centers across America while also providing anonymous web-based support initiatives ― like a crisis hotline ― for victims of sexual assault. Following a presidential campaign that generated a national discussion about the realities of sexual assault and violence in this country ― including those possibly perpetrated by our president-elect himself, it’s important that we ensure these resources are always available to anyone who needs them going forward ― especially women.

    Stand With Standing Rock

    Stand With Standing Rock is an organization committed to permanently halting the Dakota Access Pipeline. Under a Trump presidency, Native sovereignty may not be a top priority, and it’s important that we continue to support the efforts to protect Native people, their traditions, their histories, and their livelihoods. Unsure of what’s happening with the controversy surrounding the Dakota Access Pipeline? Head here.

    Americans for Immigrant Justice

    AI Justice is a non-profit law firm committed to protecting and fighting for the basic rights of immigrants. Representing immigrants from all over the world, AI Justice provides “a unique combination of free direct services, impact litigation, policy reform, and public education at local, state, and national levels.” This organization, and others like it, will prove crucial to advocacy under a Trump administration, particularly with the president-elect’s divisive rhetoric surrounding Syrian refugees.

    Sylvia Rivera Law Project

    SRLP helps protect the rights of the most vulnerable members of the LGBTQ community. The core mission of SRLP is “guaranteeing that all people are free to self-determine gender identity and expression, regardless of income or race, and without facing harassment, discrimination or violence.” Named after civil rights pioneer Sylvia Rivera, SLRP is largely a law clinic that helps transgender and gender non-conforming people navigate legal barriers, aids those most affected by the prison industrial complex and fights for the liberation of all queer people.

    • Michael White

      I renewed my membership in both ACLU and SPLC with a bit more than I normally donate.

    • TuuxKabin
    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      FFRF should get a nod.

    • Phillip in L.A.

      Thx for posting this great info, WebSlinger! A shout-out for L A Youth Network, which provides housing, food, clothing, education, and just about everything else to needy, mostly-homeless LGBTQ youth in Los Angeles.

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      I donated to the Internet Archive Wayback machine. So they could keep archiving government data that may disappear under the TrumpenFurer.

      https://archive.org/

  • Blake J Butler

    I guess ipecac Christmas Cupcakes are out of the question ? Only person I bought a gift for was my mother she got her present a month in advance.

    My brothers…… well half brothers….. voted for Twitler so I hate them anyways. A half sister that voted third party that ain’t getting anything from me, and another half sister, this one my favorite who voted for Hillary she’s getting sangria because despite living at home I’m broke this holiday season from buying books for the spring semester and I have to wait for my present from my parents because of tuition and renovation costs.

    • Treant

      I find that Ex-Lax brownies are generally more effective.

      This year, I’m giving my husband and my mother gifts (my father has been deceased for some years). A few other people are getting minor presents–bars of home-made soap, but those are very cheap for me to make, they’re simply time-consuming in terms of production and curing time.

      • PickyPecker

        I really treasure the handmade gifts the most.

        • Treant

          Particularly when you hand over a bar of pure, strict-definition Castille that had to cure for two years.

          Y’know what? It’s terrible soap, but it sure does sound impressive.

          • OdieDenCO

            don’t say it terrible until you get a rating from Raphie on its taste and texture. It might have properties and uses never dreamed of. 🙂

          • Treant

            Many people actually use Castille as tooth soap. The flavor is slightly sweet from the glycerine created during the saponification process (and does not promote tooth decay). It works well in a pinch but contains no fluoride nor whiteners.

          • hudson11

            hmmm, with nearly every post of yours, I learn something.

          • grada3784

            Nothing can match Lifebuoy.

          • Leo Tallant
          • Librarykid

            I remember when my mother melted castile soap in water in a double boiler to make shampoo.

        • Jon Doh

          Not me. I’d better get those cha cha heels… black ones.

          • TuuxKabin

            Please post video if you don’t get ’em.

          • Jon Doh

            Not on Christmas, not on Christmas…

            https://youtu.be/bjjJO3o8ZJ0

          • Treant

            Damn, Jon, you have way bigger boobs than I thought you would.

          • The Return of Traxley

            NOW it’s Christmas.

            Thank you from the bottom of my coal-black heart.

          • Phillip in L.A.

            I couldn’t agree more, Traxley! Did I already compliment you on your hat–it’s BOSS!

            Also, surprised no one said anything on this thread yet about “revenge grifting”! ;}

            Happy Happy Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, w/e!

          • Librarykid

            It would have been better if the old lady was dead.

          • Michael R
          • seant426

            Never gets old.

          • Jon Doh

            It does for my husband. He has requested I stop doing my reenactment routine because of the number of ornaments I have destroyed.

        • The Return of Traxley

          Like giving them the finger?

      • Paula

        Ex-Lax brownies pranks lose the effectiveness with older family members. They actually appreciate them.

        • TuuxKabin

          The ol’ farts.

        • The Return of Traxley

          That’s rhe time you start giving gift baskets full of a wide abundance of irresistibly delicious cheeses.

        • Todd20036

          I’d appreciate them sometimes

        • Jerry

          Giving them the ability to take a good trump.

      • cleos_mom

        If you’re gifting people who garden or ever go camping/hiking, lye soap can be a nice minor present. Washing with it helps stop poison ivy or chigger attacks.

        • Treant

          I have my own formula for a Gardener’s Soap, which involves lots of coconut and soy wax (amazingly enough). It can cut through just about anything, including poison ivy oil. 🙂

        • Librarykid

          An old gardening practice in the south was to put a chunk of lye soap between the branches and trunk of a dogwood tree to prevent borers. Rain would wash enough of the soap down the trunk to repel them.

    • HanyBaal

      Unfortunately, Ipecac is no longer available. off the market.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      Try to get sugarless Haribo gummy bears. They are infamous on Amazon but they might be hard to get a hold of.

    • Grumpy Old Man

      Reminds me of my high school days – a friend and I inserted ex-lax into Mars Bars and swapped Feenamint into Chicklet packages and fed them to the football team – unfortunately, we were also on the team so we got hit pretty hard, pretty often after the ‘night of clogged toilets’. Good times, good times.

  • pleasebereasonable1

    Thankfully my family stopped giving Xmas gifts years ago, altho I don’t think I could be that passive aggressive. I did, for the 1st time, donate to People For the American Way, Planned Parenthood & the ACLU. Didn’t even think of SPLC. Looks like I’l be writing another check….

  • Paul David

    I’m really happy that people are sticking it to Racist Grandma and Bigoted Uncle Jim.

    After YEARS of Grandma voting against her own economic interests, and to fuck over the grandkids, it’s really really really REALLY time she has to answer for her fucked up views and bad decisions.

    My suggestion: donate to a good charity or head to Costco for some cat food to put in her stocking…she’ll need it once Paul Ryan gets hold of her Social Security.

    • canoebum

      Include a recipe for Friskies and Noodle Casserole, on a 3 x 5 index card.

      • Paul David

        Pretty much.

        I guess I feel that it’s time America has a conversation with Racist Grandma, instead of just trying to avoid politics altogether.

        Because her views are incoherent and offensive, and it’s time that they be called out as such, and it’s DEFINITELY time that she answers for her views.

      • Paul David

        Yup

  • Silver Badger

    I bought three gifts this year for people I care about. Those I don’t care about I’m not wasting time or money on.

    • Steverino

      Hubby and I donate generously every year to local food banks, and have these and other charities listed as beneficiaries in each of our wills, along with several individuals who have been consistently supportive of us, and vice-versa. The few of hubby’s relatives and their friends who we have had anything much to do with are all narcissistic right-wingers, and we feel like we have given enough to them already in life.

      • Leo Tallant

        The husbear and I always donate to “Food For Thought” when we see them at our local Safeway.

      • ZRAinSWVA

        Agreed. 17% of the kids in my area are food insecure. It’s unmentionable that such conditions exist in our country! We SHOULD be better than that!

  • PickyPecker

    OT: Today’s Holiday Season Moment….
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGzO1ghRKp4

    • olandp

      Christmas Eve used to be great, everyone who had moved away but came home for family was out at the bars. Great to see everyone again. At this point they have no need to come home again.

  • GeneInSJ

    I think that’s a brilliant idea!

  • andrew

    IMO the “revenge gifting” idea is sad. The holidays are a time to share your love with family and friends, no matter their political views or sexual orientation.

    • TuuxKabin

      Nope. Supporter of agent orange? Dead to me, as they’d prefer me/us to them. Fuck e’m with the coal.

      • andrew

        Fortunately, in my very large blended-extended family, I only know of two people who voted for Trump. They are both very nice people, so their unfortunate, in my opinion, vote for Trump, won’t change my relationship with them in the slightest.

        • grada3784

          I sloughed off the entire bunch in Texas.

        • TuuxKabin

          I’m glad you have the compassion, I don’t. A friend once told me, “David, you’re heartless.” It’s true. I travel light.

          • andrew

            Maybe you have a really big heart, but you allow it to be wounded too easily.

          • TuuxKabin

            Thank you Andrew. That was a Christmas gift. Thank you. I will keep that in mind. You added some holiday spirit to the season for me. Very much appreciated! Salud!

      • Bj Lincoln

        Everyone except my sons voted for Drumpf. They are all in Ohio and I don’t talk to them much. This is a great idea. They all know how I feel about them voting against my rights locally and federally.

  • Steverino

    I first misread that headline as “Revenge Grifting In The Name Of Donald Trump.”

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      I am often tempted to do something like open a PAC with an appropriately patriotic and right-leaning name to vacuum in the money.

      • Phillip in L.A.

        Non-profits have definitely become the grift of discerning, uh, grifters! ;}

    • Phillip in L.A.

      Yes! Surprised it took me this long to find a “revenge grifting” post!

  • seant426

    I kind of did the same thing. Instead of the money I would have spent on gifts for my family, I made a contribution to the Ali Forney Center in my brother Mark’s name who committed suicide back in 2003. I think it’s something I’m going to do from now on for Christmas.

  • Phil2u

    What a great idea! Coal is so damned hard to find these days!

    • Bob Conti

      Well, didn’t Hair Furor promise to restore the coaling industry?

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    O/T tangentially…..

    To all my fellow travelers on this here blog thingy, from our atheist yet Christmas filled house to yours…. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/61a64532d800fdc7415039e245959335b02a15f78ce83935d092cbb0681c76a5.jpg

    • houstonray

      Awesome!!!

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  • MorryNYC

    This is kind of a dumb idea. Because then I get a “Thank You” from The “Family” Research Counsel in return. I think I’ll just give to the causes directly.

  • fuzzybits
    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      It’d almost be worth it if it meant that the Palins would be stuck being Russians forever.

  • Djurisk

    Americans United for separation of Church and State https://www.au.org

    Trumpangelicals feel entitled, so bring them back down to Earth. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/34ae4d11f4c13b480bf84ceed1ed0f54d6a425f6757cab5d6bb01942baf5cf3f.jpg

  • Cuberly

    I think my ire has overloaded and blown a circuit. Getting angst/anger/frustration fatigue. I’m at the point were the energy I have will be to fight the GOP, starting next year.

    For now I just want a holiday with friends, watching movies, eating/drinking, chatting, with conversations about politics designated as verboten.

    Happy Holidays to all JMGers. Stay safe.

  • Rick

    “Please Dawn – not on Christmas!”

  • EqualityForAll

    I’m not giving any kind of gifts in the name of my so-called “friends” who voted for Trump. In fact, those that I do know voted for him are no longer my friends – forever. I figure a vote for Trump and Pence was a vote against women, Muslims, Mexicans, and, the one that hurts the most, against me personally. Anybody who voted for those two also voted for repealing my personal rights as a gay human being. For that reason, I will never socialize with or speak to any of them again. That includes relatives of mine.

  • RJ Bone

    I’d revenge gift the fuck out of several people I know, if I hadn’t already broken ties.

    So many people tell me they’d never cut someone out for politics. Usually the ones who don’t have to worry about losing rights, livelihoods or their lives or the lives of their closest. The fact that these ideas don’t occur to them is reason enough to be “too busy” for lunch, dinner, a movie or the rest of their lives. It shows that they don’t care, so I don’t.

    It’s lonely, but I know who I can trust, at least.

    • Bryan

      A big ol’ Ra-men to that.

    • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

      This isn’t about politics . It’s about racism and misogyny. These are not mere differences of opinions but a fundamental difference in values. I cut all the deplorables from my life and have never been happier. Their loss

  • Cylux

    This petty spitefulness towards their own family members and friends over political differences is one of the large contributing factors why more people are swinging rightward these days. So, ur, keep it up I guess.

    • CaliforniaDude

      who won the popular vote??? define more.

    • Ross

      Petty spitefulness?

      Shunning people/family who support Trump is the only acceptable response to the horror which is Trump and everything he defines.

    • andrew

      Total nonsense.Try again.

    • Texndoc

      You’re not alone. We had a huge family reunion in August and are doing it annually and the first proclamation from my dad on the first big dinner was “No politics this week!” I’d guess it was a bipartisan 50/50 reunion. I’m melancholy about these things because I still have mom and dad and the last time I see them might be the LAST time I see them.

    • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

      Spoken from a place of white privilege. Do me a favor and go fuck yourself

  • DuaneBidoux

    You could always give a gift card that you say has $200 on it and when they go to redeem it it has $10. Add a note that says if it’s okay for Trump to lie through his teeth it must be okay for everyone now.

    • coram nobis

      Or it can be a one-ruble note. Who knows, it might come in handy now that we have Дональд Федорович Трамп as our Leader.

      • whollyfool

        Going to steal that….

        • Bryan

          May steal that idea too, I like it.

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    Being President ages one. I hope it ages him way more than it did Obama. Also if he hates the amount of hatred he gets now, he is going to be in meltdown for the rest of his life as it is only going to increase.

    • kmcdevitt

      I think it only ages you if you actually give a fuck and do the job….

    • J Ascher

      I’ve seen an image online where Trump, after eight years in office, is depicted as Jabba the Hutt or Fat Bastard (Austin Powers movies).

  • CaliforniaDude

    family is family…..they will be here long before and after any one election. People vote based on different fears. Try to see their point of view. That is what I do. It keeps me sane.

    • Ross

      So, let’s imagine its 1934. And I am a Jew living in Germany. And people close to me support Adolf.

      Should I try and see their point of view?

      Ahhh…no.

      And nor should I try and understand the views of people who support Trump.

      People who support the unsupportable should be shunned.

    • coram nobis

      It helps if sexual orientation doesn’t come into the dynamic. If one has been put out of the family over that, sexual orientation doesn’t change, and one’s better off in some decent part of the country.

    • MBear

      a different point of view is whether you prefer yellow mustard or brown mustard on your salami sandwich…NOT whether LGBT people deserve equal rights.
      Good day

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      Politics are a matter of life and death. Reagan’s indifference to the AIDS helped get a lot of gay men killed. A lot of black people note angrily that when drugs hit their communities, the addicts were mocked and told that they deserved to die but NOW that the opioid addiction is hitting WHITE rural/suburban people, oh NOW the GOP make mushy mouth noises about how the poo wittle innocent victims have to be saved. When people of color have employment problems, they get told “work harder, move, go to school, shut the fuck up!” while now it’s a CATASTROPHE when white people discover themselves in the same freaking boat.

      It’s not just “da evol leedas” that get people killed,it’s the guys shoving people into the ovens. It’s not just the preachers who tell people to vote GOP and drive out their children to die on the street or tell them to hang themselves, it’s the people listening to the preachers.

  • The_Wretched

    Good, it needs to happen.

  • coram nobis

    Also remember the ACLU in your gift giving. The day after the election, their new message to our new Leader was, is, “We’ll See You In Court.”

  • Michael Abbett

    I’m all for the giving to charities part, but my Trump voting relatives were cut off a long time ago when they made asses of themselves with their hatefulness for President Obama, so they’d never know.

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  • Ken Berry

    Seven years ago, I wrote to my Tea-Party delusional sister, as she enrolled her daughter in a high school promoting an anti-gay “biblical worldview, “You cannot continue to support anti-gay politicians and institutions and still remain a part of my life.” I hear from another family member that she is now raising her daughter’s born-out-of-wedlock child. Ha.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      It’s always the abstinence preaching people whose children get knocked up.

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  • Cuberly

    Uh oh, some drama in Trumptopia. The skeevy chinless lawyer is bailing. Could be because of some accusations of adultery.

    Interesting aside, this buffoon worked on Cruz’ campaign before joining the Drumpf Surrogate Circus. Hypocrite.

    https://twitter.com/yashar/status/812801720426315776

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      We still have roughly a month before the inauguration. We might have more “escapees.”

      As scummy as I think they are, I wonder if they’re starting to get a tiny bit worried about angry intelligence agencies who don’t want to be bossed around by an ex-KGB head, and idiot morons finally realizing that their healthcare is going to be taken away from them.

      • Cuberly

        Trying to recall the last time they’ve had any good press…..can’t think of any. Their cabinet picks are getting dissected right and left and all they can do is have their surrogates rail away on cable “news”.

        And trolling online has gotten worse. Especially after the whole Putin letter fiasco. Imagine that.

        The GOP was giddy at the thought of gutting the FDR legacy and now even they’re getting pushback, some getting cold feet.

        There’s been no attempt at a unifying message, optimism, or a positive policy unveiling. It’s been scattershot and hinging on Trump’s tweets.

        Outlook, not good.

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  • Jack

    Nice.

  • i did this, one year. i had just had an argument with family members about, of course, money. so i decided to buy them all a goat. it’s now providing milk, cheese and material for fabric for a poor family in another country. i sincerely hope they named it after my mother.