Liberty Counsel: Right Wing Watch Is Totally Spreading Fake News By Always Quoting Us Verbatim [AUDIO]

For more than a decade those deviant commies over at Right Wing Watch have been lying about the religious right by reposting their own videos and quoting their own words verbatim. So says hate group leader Mat Staver, as reported by those liars at Right Wing Watch:

Liberty Counsel’s Mat Staver apparently does not appreciate our practice of directly quoting the things that he says in order to highlight his radical right-wing views and agenda, which is why he declared on today’s “Faith and Freedom” radio broadcast that we here at Right Wing Watch are one of “the biggest purveyors of fake news in the country.”

“It’s interesting how the left talks about fake news,” he said, “The Southern Poverty Law Center … and Right Wing Watch are the biggest purveyors of fake news in the country. They’re trying to dehumanize people and organizations and they literally create fake news. They’re the fake news purveyors and they’re going to continue to ramp up their agenda, to distort stories, to put out lies and attack individuals.”

Remember when Liberty Counsel claimed that 100,000 Peruvians gathered in a soccer stadium to pray for Kim Davis? Remember when they claimed that Kim Davis had a private audience with Pope Francis? Sounds a bit like fake news, huh?

  • Bill

    It is OK to lie when you lie for Jesus.

    ~ Book of Charlie Brown 6:66

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    • safari

      An interview with an ex-spiritual healer who would use things like pieces of beef to make clear “the cancer is gone; I pulled it out through jesus” believed that lying is okay if it brought people closer to god.

  • Paula

    Its not too hard to dehumanize them when they have already done such a good job at dehumanizing themselves.

    • Joe in PA

      Ya gotta be fast around here…I was about to say the same thing. 🙂

    • Kim K’s Kute Koochy✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      u sure they’re human to begin with? I’ve yet to see evidence

  • whollyfool

    I don’t even know how to live in this new unreal reality, with people who lie flat out even when they’ve been caught on video and the truth means nothing. It used to be that liberals were accused of having “their own truth.” Anything meant by that has been blown out of the water by now.

    I guess I’m with Trae Crowder. :/

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      ” Fuckin A Norma Rae ! “

    • WitlessProtection

      I guess I’min love with Trey Crowder. I want to have his babies…all of them. Inside me.

    • safari

      Lie. It’s the only thing that works.

      • Paul David


        I’ve been saying this for ages!

        What fucks things up for the Dems is the white working class, who would rather listen to GOP lies and propaganda than to the namby pamby policy prescriptions of the Dems.

        What needs to happen is these rural and exurban morons need to be (1) recognized as easily misled morons, and (2) treated as such. And by “treated as such” I mean Dems need to develop an approach that “works” with this group, which means blatant lying so as to get their vote.

        For example, if Dems had been truly tactical–rather than adhere to their principles–around Obamacare they would have gone out of their way to ASSURE these yahoos that not a single Black or brown person would benefit from the program.

        Would that be a lie? Of COURSE it would have! Would it have meant that rural and exurban white morons supported the project? Of course it would! And THAT would have been the optimal outcome!

        The GOP long ago learned that rural and exurban whites are a moronic group of imbeciles who are easily misled, and who apparently like being misled. The GOP has them as a core constituency, and the GOP has–quite literally–zero respect for these idiotic suckers. Because why would you have respect for the white working class? They don’t deserve it…because they’re a bunch of idiotic morons with offensive and utterly incoherent views.

        As such, they are to be propagandized, misled, and used as you see fit. The Dems need to put aside their morals and start doing this as well.

        • Oscarlating Wildely

          “What needs to happen is these rural and exurban morons need to be (1) recognized as easily misled morons, and (2) treated as such.”

          Hear. Fucking. Hear.

          • Paul David

            I know!

            I’m so sick of the “principles” argument, when the oppostion party has zero principles–except gaining and maintaining power–at all.

            And therefore the opposition consistently wins.

            It’s time the Dems treat the white working class as the moronic marks/pawns that they are, and blatantly lie and propagandize them.

          • thatotherjean

            No. Absolutely not. Somebody has to tell the truth, if only for the pleasure of being able to say, when things go absolutely pear-shaped, “I told you so.”

          • Jamie_Johnson

            While I agree in principle, the reality is that Hillary told the truth, and lost, bigly.

          • Paul David

            No. Just no.

          • Paul David

            It’s “here,” not “hear.” Jfc.

      • mikeinrkfd

        What works best is a lie based on a partial truth.

      • David Walker

        I so don’t want to believe that, but obviously it’s what works.

    • OdieDenCO

      I get his frustration. I’m right there with him. But, lie to the people, no! that would make the Democrats the same as the Republicans in my opinion. the end does not justify the means.

      • whollyfool

        I hear you. I’m just completely at sea. I have no idea how to combat this.

        • BobSF_94117

          You can’t. Back in high school debate, we once faced a team whose position was that the poor should just eat the dams built with foreign aid. Yes, eat dams, eat cement dams. And we lost because we were utterly unprepared, in terms of evidence and argument, to prove that eating concrete is not healthy.

          • whollyfool


          • Oscarlating Wildely

            Same situation here: “Save the Queer people by shipping all your asses to Mars with insemination provided for free. You’ll recreate a new society, bring in the arts and culture, and save yourself from the overriding amount of assholes on Planet Earth– and history will adore you as pioneers!”
            Queer. Mars. Invasion. It worked.

          • Christopher

            That’s what I’ve been saying, man! It’s the new CYA.

            QMI! Q.M.I.

          • Lumpy Gaga

            Ya gotta admit – an excellent prep for today’s world, whatever they were thinking.

      • safari

        The GOP has just about enough power to pass amendments to the us constitution. The time for softball is long over.

        • OdieDenCO

          They can try it, if they want to kick off civil war 2.0

          • safari

            Highly doubtful.

          • Christopher

            Yeah, I don’t want a Constitutional Convention to happen. They could/would scrap the whole thing and instill a Theocracy.

            It would make the incoming administration look like the kiddie table at Thanksgiving. ALL of the old guard heavyweights would come out of the woodwork, and then we would get thoroughly fucked. With no lube. And sand in every crack. Forever.

          • Todd20036

            No one is going to start a civil war over LBGTs. We just don’t count that much. Even now.

          • Christopher

            Now perceived religious persecution…that might be the catalyst.

          • OdieDenCO

            war is no longer a completely physical act. A civil cyber war can be waged by and for the LGBT community. But the comment was not aimed at defending just the LGBT community. A Constitutional amendment installing the Christian faith as the state religion or a FADA type of law is a distinct possibility. And while both would affect the LGBT community the affect on the minority population of this country would be huge.

        • Xuuths

          Nope. The Constitution provides that an amendment may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the State legislatures. The GOP does not have those kinds of numbers.

          • safari

            They have 32/50 state legislatures. 64%.

          • Todd20036

            They need 3/4 state legislatures to pass a Constitutional Amendment.

            And there’s no guarantee all red states will pass such.

            I see a more violent ramming through of laws that take away our rights.

            A red SCOTUS could call such laws constitutional. No amendment required.

          • we all thought the same about tRump….

        • Scott MB

          It would be way to difficult to pass a Constitutional Amendment even if the Rethugs had 100% control of the Legislative branch. Ratification by the states would most likely crush it.

    • MonochromeMouse

      The only reason Hillary lost the election was because she stayed too classy and professional, American politics has devolved to the point where lies, insults, and constant attention are what it takes to win elections. The average voter is a total idiot who never researches anything about candidates and only pays attention to interviews and what they hear on the tv news.

      • Dean

        Gert a grip on reality. In my rural Florida county, which has 3700 registered Democrats and 2800 registered Republicans, Trump got over 5,000 votes. Hillary totally failed to speak to country people. Even though I cast my vote for her as a way of hoping to protect the Supreme Court, she said nothing to me. She ran a ridiculously bad campaign. And I’m a Jersey Yankee from way back.

    • greenmanTN

      OK, I’m about to commit heresy here. Trae needs to decide if he’s a comedian or a political pundit. I loved his early videos because they were very funny with a political edge, and he was from Tennessee. Now he’s lecturing and comedy is way in the back seat, and I don’t like it.

      I’m not saying he’s wrong, in fact I think he’s right, but I like him as a comedian, not as a political sage.

      • whollyfool

        That’s even more true of this video in particular…. I completely get what you’re saying. I think that he has a front row view of how Trump won the election, and was hoping he could help with how to reach those voters that Trump has so easily and cavalierly lied to.
        But you’re not wrong.

      • Jamie_Johnson

        It’s not heresy, but you’re missing one of the key points that Jon Stewart taught us: comedians can often be much more effective than pundits.

        • greenmanTN

          Oh believe me, I revere Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Samantha Bee, and many other comedians who have done more to inform us as they make us laugh. At times it seems as if it’s the jesters who give better insight than the “real” journalists on TV.

          And I think he’s hilarious, insightful, and does smart comedy. But his last several videos haven’t measured up to the older ones IMO because they’re political opinion pieces. I don’t disagree with a single thing he has said, but I want him to wrap it up more in comedy like he used to.

          I love the guy, I just want him to go back to funny/serious, not just serious.

      • Canadian Observer

        I always love the chance to quote Tom Lehrer.

        “Political satire became obsolete when they awarded Henry Kissinger the Nobel Peace Prize.”

        Way ahead of his time.

  • safari
    • Exatron

      So much we could use him to screen the next Star Wars.

  • Matt

    Why does he always look like he should be a Jerry Sandusky assistant? Just sayin’…

    • TheThruster

      He looks absolutely tortured. Like he lives in constant fear.

  • Paul David

    I love that the right wing is all up at arms given that Facebook is taking steps to shut down the spigot of fake-news-I-mean-conservative-propaganda that has become a core part of the conservative movement.

    You can’t blame them, though. Facebook was a great way to get Racist Grandma on board…between looking at pictures of the grandkids she would imbibe a steady stream of crazy conspiracy bullshit 24/7.

    I’d be pissed too if I was an amoral propagandist whose main venue for propagandizing the moronic-and-easily-misled elderly was all of a sudden curtailed!

    • Lazycrockett

      Shame they didn’t look into this fake shit till after the election.

      • safari

        Now they have a financial concern. I’m pretty sure Donald’s cabal looks down on the new tech economy.

        • Randy Left Brooklyn

          Absolutely not. You know that tax break, worth literally tens of billions of dollars,which is described as a tax holiday to get companies repatriating their profits? Over 90% goes to a handful of companies like Apple,Microsoft, Google, Cisco, and a bunch of Big Pharma companies, who shuffle their profits overseas via accounting maneuvers to low tax countries like Ireland.

          By the way, the massive investment in America that this is supposed to trigger? It doesn’t happen. We already tried this under Bush II and it has been proven the companies just use the money for share buybacks and other financing issues. This has been demonstrated with well done Federal Reserve studies.

          • Lazycrockett

            …but those emails.

          • Paul David

            Well, hello????

            Of course. Why do you think corporate America is okay with Trump? They know he’ll sign anything they want into law…companies like Apple will be able to repatriate their Irish holdings and basically pay $5 in taxes…if that.

          • safari

            I withdraw my claim.

          • Randy Left Brooklyn

            Sorry if I was harsh, but it just infuriates me.

            There are smart ways to change our tax code and this is the opposite of smart, it is just the same old handouts to big companies that were so popular during Dubya’s reign. It is just utter economic crap, regardless of what your politics are. It is welfare for our most successful companies

  • PickyPecker
    • WitlessProtection

      All they have to say is “according to a source” and then they are home free to be considered “news”

      • Joe in PA

        People are talking about….

        Some are saying….

        and on and on … Sigh.

        • Christopher

          “Anonymous sources tell us…”

          So fucking sick of that one!

          • Joe in PA


        • zhera

          “Many people tell me…”

          As used by tRump himself, so many times. “…the best people, really good people, so many of them, and I know a lot of people, thousands and thousands, all over the world, I even know some people in an Equadorian Embassy, and they tell me…”

  • Xiao Ai

    O/T but, probably three times as important…

    Yes. THAT Richard B Cheney.

    At the center of the pitch for Tillerson: Richard Cheney and Marco Rubio

    • BobSF_94117

      When did he become “Richard B.” all of a sudden?

      • safari


        • Robincho

          Dicky B. Trippin

      • Christopher

        Dicks worldwide revolted against him.

      • Xiao Ai

        It’s at least gotten to identifying him one step away from mass murderers, and serial killers. What more could we ask for?

  • Jimmy R

    Surprised mat hasn’t yet been appointed to trump’s cabinet of nazi deplorables.

    • Joe in PA

      Too much money in grifting.

  • Dramphooey

    “They literally create fake news.” Wow, literally? They just toss the term “fake news” around and I really get the impression they have no idea what the definition is.

    • CB

      Same as “socialism,” “‘marriage'” or any other trigger word that lets them grift more.

    • Friday

      The word “literally” is another one the Christian Right just inverts the meaning of it. “I want you to believe me and not anyone else, therefore I’ll tell you that false claims from a vague feeling I want you to have are ‘literally’ true. Also don’t quote me verbatim or let others see what I actually say outside the halls of bigotry or you’re ‘silencing’ me.”

  • we’re still here

    Once you believe the fake news of the bible, all other lies come easy.

  • Joe in PA

    dammit, I hate Disqus today!

    • Sam_Handwich

      what’s it doing? i’m not having any problems

      • Ray Taylor

        It keeps telling I have the same messages over and over.

        • TuuxKabin

          Among other hijinx.

        • stuckinthewoods

          It did that to me yesterday. Today it is doing something it often does, says “7 new comments below” and I’ll scroll down passing a comment where there are no “show reply” notifications but the 7 drops to 2, for example.

        • zhera

          I have no messages, even though there should be.

          • It won’t load my comments. Won’t let me change my avatar, then gives me the same messages over and over…its a pain today.

          • zhera

            Mine’s better now.

          • Mine is finally acting right again! Wonder if it will let me change my avatar now?

          • zhera

            aww, cute!

        • TrollopeReader

          i got that for awhile … nothing else major, though.

      • Joe in PA

        a bunch of crazy shit. I tried to reply to someone (see pic), it doesn’t seem to recognize the fact that I’ve clicked on the red ball and seen the messages/votes. As soon as I get in to a new thread they are all there again. ;(

    • PickyPecker
      • Joe in PA

        lolz! Not yet, but soon! 🙂

        • TrollopeReader

          nice svelte dress you’re wearing!

      • Joe in PA

        And BTW, seasonal??? 🙂

        • Christopher

          For me it’s hourly!

          Thankfully I’m a happy, fun drunk. Because drunk, or stoned, are my only default settings since the election.

    • Christopher

      Starting to wonder if Cheetolini isn’t fucking with it to quell dissent.

  • Natty Enquirer

    One who deceives will always find those who allow themselves to be deceived.
    – Niccolo Machiavelli

  • Skokieguy [Larry]

    Mattie, your panties in a wad because Trumpy didn’t pick YOU for Attorney General? With your stellar record of wins, you were a shoe-in. Sad!

    • He would be the perfect pick for Cheetolini. He’s white, has white hair, is supposedly xtian, doesn’t have the ability to be Attorney General, why he wasn’t tapped for that job is confounding.

  • Lazycrockett
    • TrollopeReader

      Damn …just read the several tweets thread. disgusting. now i’m even more mad.

  • FAEN

    It was crazy when Newt said it and it’s still crazy.

  • The amount of times I say,”you just cannot make this stuff up” has quadrupled in the last couple of months.

    • Christopher

      Yep. Everytime I’m online and say “You have GOT to be fucking kidding me!” I hear the hubby scream from the kitchen “That’s enough internet for you!”

      • LOL, yeah I am not allowed to discuss politics anymore, not because my husband has different views but because it stresses him out too much.

      • Joe in PA

        Mine too! It used to be that I would discreetly close the porn window (gasp), but now I have to close anything political. Woe to me if he sees a picture of Trump. Yikes.

      • Todd20036

        Depends. Did you just view a 12 inch penis when you screamed that?

        • Christopher

          Actually I would scream “You want to put that WHERE?”.

          And then I think to myself “Eh, could be fun.”

          • Todd20036

            There really is such a thing as “too big” even for most bottoms.

  • Secure

    Liberty Council – a bunch of lying Christian assholes.

  • Robert Conner

    Anytime Christians are held to the standards expected of the rest of society, they play the persecution card.

    • They truly are children in adult bodies. They’re spoiled brats that believe they’re entitled to all the toys, and they won’t share. And if they’re told or made to actually act like adults, they have a temper tantrum until they get their way.

      • Let them lie on the floor and kick and scream and threaten to hold their breath. It won’t hurt us, it only hurts them to the younger generation who see this as foolish behavior in the extreme.

  • Richard B

    The older I get, the less tolerant I get of this nonsensical religious sky fairy worshiper demanding the world should operate based on his interpretation of ancient myths.

  • Orion Dumptee

    deviant commies,hmm ‘somebody’ is really stuck in 1951

    • Baltimatt

      You mean Joe?

  • Baltimatt

    Combinations like “Faith and Freedom” scare me. If you don’t have the right faith, you don’t get the freedom.

    • TheJudgement

      A bit off topic here but :

      Today, 11:33 AM
      AlluvialFan, on 17 Dec 2016 – 09:29 AM, said:
      It means his account has been deleted, probably at his own request.
      No way was it as his own request. He was one of the worst violators of the TOS and was banned multiple times, he probably got tired of trying to come back with a another different screen name.

      I can see that smoky is still terrified of me. tell Smokey I have no interest in belonging to any club he is an accepted member of. So, no I have not tried to come back and post under a false name. 😄
      I really love the people you ended up with. Great moderating! 😆

  • Gaymurcan

    But Staver & Co. have been certified lying assholes and moral degenerates for such a looong time. Why settle for mere imitation when folks can that plainly for themselves.

  • 2patricius2

    Liars and bullies.

    “Real” Christians (that’s what they purport to be) should know that in the Gospel according to John, Jesus is reported to have said to the religious leaders of his day: “You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.”

    Judging by the book in which they claim to believe, they are condemned by their own behavior. And that is why they can claim that Trump is God’s messenger, and why they saw no contradiction between being Christians and supporters of a greedy, lying, bigoted fraud. Because they don’t even believe what they claim to believe.

  • boatboy_srq

    Thought must say all that doth preserve thy grift.

    – 1 Mammon 1:99

  • bkmn

    Just like Mat claims he is a lawyer.

  • David Walker

    I should probably stop reading “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.” Shirer wrote: “[Hitler] came to three conclusions which explained to him the success of the Social Democrats: They knew how to create a mass movement, without which any political party was useless; they had learned the art of propaganda among the masses; and, finally, they knew the value of using what calls ‘spiritual and physical terror.’ The third lesson…intrigued the young Hitler.”
    [Hitler writes] “I understood the infamous spiritual terror which this movement exerts, particularly on the bourgeoisie, which is neither morally nor mentally equal to such attacks; at a given sign it unleashes a veritable barrage of lies and slanders against whatever adversary seems most dangerous, until the nerves of the attacked person break down… This is a tactic based on precise calculation of all human weaknesses, and its result will lead to success with almost mathematical certainty… I achieved an equal understanding of the importance of physical terror toward the individual and the masses… For while in the ranks of their supporters the victory achieved seems a triumph of the justice of their own cause, the defeated adversary in most cases despairs of the success of any further resistance.” [Shirer:] “No more precise analysis of Nazi tactics, as Hitler was eventually to develop them, was ever written.”
    Shirer also wrote: “[After WWI,the German people] had to find scapegoats for the defeat and their humiliation and misery. They easily convinced themselves that had them in the ‘November criminals’ who had signed the surrender and established democratic government in the place of the old autocracy. The gullibility is a subject which Hitler often harps on in ‘Mein Kampf.’ He was shortly to take full advantage of it.”
    Gullible Americans looking for a scapegoat, too.

  • Comixbear

    It’s just like the quote from “The Newt” Gingrich who stole Christmas…”Let me say on the record, any ad which quotes what I said on Sunday is a falsehood. Because I have said publicly those words were inaccurate and unfortunate.”

  • Frank McCormick

    Please stop calling it “hypocrisy”. It’s not hypocrisy if you don’t believe it yourself. It’s just plain lying.

  • The_Wretched

    The reason why Staver loses pretty much every legal action LC takes is on display.