Hillary Clinton: Congress Must Act Against Fake News And Malicious Propaganda On Social Media [VIDEO]

The Hill reports:

Hillary Clinton on Thursday decried the spread of fake news online, calling it an “epidemic” that Congress should take action against. “The epidemic of malicious fake news and false propaganda that flooded social media over the past year — it’s now clear the so-called fake news can have real-world consequences,” Clinton said during a speech on Capitol Hill.

Some Democrats have argued the spread of anti-Clinton fake news online contributed to her electoral loss to Donald Trump. The issue has received renewed attention this week after a gunman entered a pizzeria in Washington that was at the center of a false viral conspiracy theory that alleged it was home to a pedophilia ring operated by Clinton and her inner circle.

  • PickyPecker
    • Bluto

      now that thar is crazy talk.

    • Jay George
    • Nowhereman

      For some reason, that reminded me of Ellen’s response to her haters over the JC Pennys flap. The Love and Kindness part reminds me of Ellen’s family values. In case you didn’t see it:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zNKTTtAXCs

    • Nowhereman

      P.S.–I like your holiday hat. Very festive!

    • dr morbius

      *vomit*

      • David Walker

        Drink some Pepto. Or kill some puppies. Whichever makes you feel better.

        • JCF

          Latter is not funny, even in snark. 🙁

          • David Walker

            Sorry to offend. The good dr. tends to bring out the worst in me. I don’t know why I haven’t blocked her/him. Maybe just to remind me that even here there are people like that.

    • JCF

      …and I always will. #StillWithHer

  • Scott R

    Sheesh. Free speech anyone? And Hil, who gets to decide?

    • Ernest Endevor

      Putin?

      • dr morbius

        ^robot

    • NZArtist

      How about… you have the right to say it, but you have to label it.
      Like… you can buy crap in the supermarket, but it has an ingredients list so you can make an informed decision.
      If sites are peddling junk as fact, you cant make an informed decision about what you’re consuming.
      No-one’s speech rights are curtailed by making the veracity of the news apparent.

      • Scott R

        Yes, it does completely infringe on free speech. Can I print that Trump is an idiot, or do I need to label it? Who checks the veracity and determines the label? Putin? Stalin? The FCC? Please.

        • pch1013

          You may print that Trump is an idiot, but you may not print that he is involved in a pedophile ring. That (I assume) is libel.

          • BudClark

            So how is Alex Jones getting away with accusing Secretary Clinton of raping, dismembering, (cooking?), and eating children?

            The man must have the mind of a serial killer just to THINK those thoughts!

        • NZArtist

          You’re not a news site and have no authority with regard to Donald Trump’s mental state.
          If you’re nominally a ‘news’ organization, or you’re being quoted as a ‘source’ by a news organization, then the veracity of the claims should be verified and held up to public scrutiny.
          I can bake cookies, and I can give them to my friends. But if I want to sell them to the public, by law I have to list the ingredients. That doesn’t curtail my right to bake and sell cookies, but it ensures the public consuming the cookies knows what’s in them. They can make an informed decision about consuming them.
          Note: I don’t actually know what the law is with regard to ingredients lists in the US. In New Zealand it’s a requirement of law to list what’s in food you’re selling.

    • JT

      Yeah, let’s have “free speech” in labeling. Snake oil does wonders for whatever ails you.

  • Capritaur

    It’s good to hear from her. I miss this woman.

  • Natty Enquirer

    Safety is the altar on which liberty is sacrificed.

    • NZArtist

      In the society of which you’re part, actions which have negative consequences for society are regulated. For example, you’re not supposed to steal your neighbours telly, or stab his dog.
      If you do, you suffer the consequence of having your liberties curtailed.
      If ‘news sites’ are peddling garbage as fact, causing people to take action in their lives based on misinformation, should they be held accountable?
      If the news suddenly reported that a giant meteor was about to destroy the earth, causing you to sell your house for a silly low price, do you feel they should be held accountable for your loss?
      How are you supposed to verify your informational sources if there is no accountability? What if it’s *your* life being fucked up by authoritative sources giving you false information?

      • Natty Enquirer

        But the news media are not an “authoritative source” to anyone who has ever heard that you shouldn’t believe everything you read in the papers. Caveat lector.

        • NZArtist

          But you should have the right to know if the information is garbage or fact.
          Sure, you can stand around trying to verify if the fireman tells you to evacuate the building because there’s a toxic leak in the basement, or you can be that fucked-up gaggle of people who have to stand around in the stairwell impeding everyone else while they debate it.
          I get that you want to allow everyone to say whatever they want whenever they want wherever they want because anything else isn’t really freedoms…
          But we have laws about shouting ‘fire’ in a crowded theatre because the likely negative consequences to people (death by panic) outweighs your right to be a wanker.

          • Natty Enquirer

            A fireman at the scene of a toxic leak is an authority. A television reporter, not so much. It’s not parallel. Moreover, YOU are the one building this ridiculous straw man about allowing everyone to say whatever they want whenever they want. Of course speech is regulated in some contexts. And in others, it is not, because it is a responsibility of the hearer to decide its credibility.

          • NZArtist

            So we’re back to deciding who is an authority and who isn’t.
            We agree that speech is regulated in certain context.
            I was responding to your simplistic statement about safety and liberty.
            Is it liberty to peddle lies as fact? Where is that acceptable and where isn’t it? Is it only unacceptable if it can get people killed? If reporting that Hillary is a lizard-person causes someone to shoot her, is that equivalent to saying the theatre is on fire causing someone to trample another person?

          • Nowhereman

            Oh stop. Now you’re just trolling. There are criminals who disguise themselves as people in authority in order to make you trust them and let them in the house so that they can rob you or worse.
            When “news” outlets spew lies, they need to be called on it. Thanks to 30-40 years of effort by the right wing in this country, real history and critical thinking are no longer taught in schools. We have a good two generations now that really don’t seem to have a clue.

        • Nowhereman

          Problem being that fake news and malicious lies are getting us effing beaten to death. Also, we-the-people own the airwaves. We can revoke their licenses if only we had the guts.

  • crewman

    Be very careful what you ask for. “Malicious” speech will be thrown at every NYT article that doesn’t favor Trump.

    • Homo Erectus

      Malicious fake news.

    • JCF

      The NYT can PROVE its facts. Conversesly, Alex Jones, needless to say…

  • sherman

    “epidemic of malicious fake news and false propaganda that flooded TV and radio the past two decades, because of Fox and right wing hate radio”.

    Fixed it.

    • Jay George

      Because Reagan vetoed the Fairness Doctrine because this is what the republican party elite planned to do all along.

  • edrex

    um…how about increasing general literacy, and maybe reasoning and critical thinking skills? Fake news requires an undeducated and incurious populace.

    • Natty Enquirer

      Bravo. That’s the problem. And that’s why this country used to be dedicated to public education, because a democracy, even a republic, does not function well without it.

      • edrex

        Cannot function without it.

        • Natty Enquirer

          It functions exceedingly well for the Trumps of the world.

          • edrex

            Trump is not exactly espousing democratic ideals.

          • Natty Enquirer

            I meant that growing ignorance and lack of education work in favor of demagogues.

          • edrex

            Yes. Democracies fall when they become stupid.

          • saucetin
          • Orly

            No, but they did win, didn’t they?

      • Brian in Valdosta

        But that is precisely why republicans / tea party types like an uneducated populace. Low intelligence means that people are busy with their videogames and porn and television dramas rather than watching the government and paying attention to real issues.

        • NancyP

          Yes, and then these ignorant people become an economic drag rather than an asset. The Republicans have the mndset that only the next quarter’s profits count – destroy the company, but if you can get short term profits and cash out, the hell with everyone else. Time was, we had the Moon program – both parties supported NASA.

          It isn’t low intelligence that causes people to veg in front of the TV – it is laziness.

          • DaveW

            I never thought I’d see a euphemism to “the poor are lazy” on this blog. Bravo!

            I agree with many the poor have a lot of headwind but so many seem to just not even try.

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        • DaveW

          Isn’t that why Louis 14 built Versailles and instigated the foppy dress-to distract the nobility who were too dainty to get their hands dirty watching the business side of things?In downton abbey the old man lost it all because work was below him? We never learn.

          I remember being taught these exact examples of how corruption gets away with it. Religion is a big part too. Look which party has a Jesus hard on.

      • Nowhereman

        Yup–strong public education and a REAL press corps are two of the most important factors. Ending the Fairness Doctrine and then allowing corporations to buy up and concentrate our “free press” into a profit driven group owned by maybe 6 people has really destroyed our country. As the saying goes, freedom of the press belongs to those who own the presses.

        • ericpayne

          In 1971, two newspaper reporters started following a string of leads concerning a break-in at a popular Washington, DC, hotel that, ultimately, led to the resignation of the President of the United States.

          In 2015 a candidate for the Presidency claims he is so popular “(He) could shoot someone on 5th Avenue, and no one would care.” All the while the media treats everything he does, for the first six months of his candidacy as “entertainment news,”

          What a world… what a world…

    • edrex

      oh.. and enforcing a clear distinction between religious thought/beleifs and science/logic.

    • because that would mean hard work, and too many dems are allergic to that. it’s much easier to be buddy buddy with media consultants who are paid six figures to tell you that if you just move more to the right, and spend even more on the salaries of six and seven figured paid media bobbleheads (make them love you, then you’ll Win!), everything will be hunky dory.

      showing up in places where the few, brave poor are trying to stand up for themselves, when it can actually make a difference? goodness no. that just isn’t done. those people aren’t on the invite list to the best DC cocktail parties. anyway, we all know they don’t have anyone to vote for but us, so why waste money on them? they can’t write us checks for $5K every time we have dinner together. money we’re going to spend on the very media that plays lucy and the football with us, every single time.

    • Jamie_Johnson

      To answer your question, it took the Republicans 50 years to dum-down the populace to the point where they’d believe anything that the right says, and 1) they’re not going to deny themselves the fruits of their labors; and 2) it would take another 50 years to educate enough people not to believe everything the right says.

    • Nowhereman

      That would be wonderful. Of course, the destruction of our public schools is by design. It’s the only way that republicans can get elected. The Moral Majority (which was neither) started taking over local school boards back in the 80s, and now here we are. The scariest part for me is that so many of them have worked their way up to Congress.

      • marshlc

        Nothing to stop progressives from getting themselves elected to school boards.

    • Orly

      We will always have uneducated and incurious people. I think that anything calling itself “news” should be held to a high standard about which it reports.

      Intentional lying from a so-called “News” organization should be illegal. Likewise, not correcting a previous erroneous statement should be illegal. If you fail, you are fined and lose your certification as a “news” organization or as a journalist.

      Seriously, trustworthy news organizations are vital to an informed public.

      Just as lawyers, financial advisers, doctors, and the like must be licensed, I think anyone calling themselves a Journalist, and any organization calling itself a News organization, should be held to the same high level of competence, and responsibility. And liability if they fuck up.

      • DaveW

        But they need a populace able to
        Properly consume news. You are correct but it’s only 1/4 the story. The rest is about demand. Too many idiots would not watch/read proper news. It’s too hard

        Watch pbs or BBC America. Each story is 15 minutes. Then watch NBC. They trump
        A story all 1/2 hour, then finally it’s 15 seconds and NEVER the news they trumped. It’s a human interest or shock story.

        The audience is culpable too.

    • Gianni

      Exactly. Dimwits have absolutely no idea what common sense is or how to use it. Critical and dedicated thinking and reasoning is so important and there is an almost total dearth of those qualities. This fake news shit is really nothing new. It’s just that with the internet and and online social networking sites, it spreads like wildfire and every dim bulb out there adds support and more inane comments.

      • DaveW

        Example: Batten roooosh. People we’re saying that during the shooting aftermath. I corrected someone:Baton Rougee. She giggled “oh you think we should use the French pronounciation?”

        I said “no, does your daughter twirl a batten or a baton? Does a sailor baton the hatches?- these are English words”. Her reply “I never thought about it”

        My inside head reply “two words too many”
        Too many people don’t think, they parrot.

        • marshlc

          “Rougee”? Hope that’s a typo.

    • B Snow

      The Religious Right will NEVER allow logic classes or critical thinking to be taught in public schools.

      • perversatile

        My dad always use to say, “the louder you get, the more you’re lying”.

        Which was the inspiration for my doctoral dissertation/ grant proposal/
        Sunday Morning Game Show pitch called-
        ‘Proselytizing.and Decibel Levels: Who’s the Loudest Evangelist?

        Where the contestants would be hooked up to various scanning devices, and monitors to measure the actual physical effects of religion on the body, and to survey the minute changes in the cortical homunculus occurring in the brains of individuals belonging to different sects.
        A cure for Extreme Religious Fanaticism is our ultimate goal, because people with (ERF) don’t just hurt themselves, they hurt everyone around them.

        • JCF

          Related to the old legal aphorism:

          “When the facts are on your side, argue the facts.
          When the law is on your side, argue the law.
          When neither are on your side—Pound The Table!”

          • perversatile

            I will be quoting that- Thanks!

    • NancyP

      Television has infantilized a very large segment of the population. It should be easier than ever for people to learn, to research and critically evaluate sources. People don’t want to exercise their brains in any manner. Yes, I understand being physically tired at the end of the day. But most people (other than working-for-pay single mothers of young children) have some time during the week to read and think. You don’t have to read classical literature or technical manuals – a romance or mystery novel is still better for the brain than vegging out for 3 or 4 hours a day in front of the TV.

    • dr morbius

      Is HRC suggesting Congress restrict First Amendment rights?? And would that include fake news like “Nancy Reagan started a national dialogue about AIDS”?

      What a sad creep.

      • edrex

        not following your point.

        • DaveW

          I am. It’s the people who want the fake news that need fixing, not limiting speech to force thoughtfullness. Won’t work.

          • edrex

            ah. right. exactly.

    • tcinsf

      With trump’s head of the Department of Education, you can be quite sure that things won’t be going in that direction.

      • edrex

        indeed.

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      True, but I think mostly fake news feeds an appetite for fake news. They’re filling a demand. Much like with drugs, I blame the consumers of that garbage more than the producers of it, because they WANT that shit. And as long as it tells them what they want to hear and has the thinnest veneer of looking like it might have come from a legitimate news source, and sometimes not even that, they will gladly gobble it up and spread it around in e-mails to everyone they know without bothering to fact-check ro cross-check it with other news sources. I have a relative who does exactly this, even though the rest of the family, including her own kids, have repeatedly called out her bogus news story emails. And she’s not a stupid woman, but over they years she has become a very biased woman. It’s intentional.

      • edrex

        without a doubt. it takes some degree of illiteracy to succumb to that.

    • BudClark

      Texas has BANNED both the teaching of CRITICAL THINKING *and* LOGIC.

      The Strumpet’s Education appointment wants to do away with public schools and replace them with KKKristianist charter schools.

  • ben

    This makes me really nervous. Do we really want the federal government controlling what constitutes valid news? Imagine Trump in charge of that agency.

    • Gerry Fisher

      We had “the fairness doctrine” at one time, and it worked pretty well. It would need to be updated for modern technology and re-implemented.

      • JCF

        We also had the three magic words:

        Consider.The.Source.

    • Nowhereman

      How about making sure that it is true before they call it news? If they want to broadcast or print lies and rumors, then they should have to run a banner at the top of the screen or over every headline. We did have a fairness doctrine that worked well for its time. We also used to have strong laws against the concentration of ownership of news outlets. So now, instead of having rules about what is fair an valid news, we have billionaires doing it. They even rushed through a special loophole for Rupert Murdoch to become a citizen without going through the normal channels, just so he could start gobbling up our news sources. I’d rather have an updated version of the Fairness Doctrine.

      • Gianni

        It has long been a foundational principle of reputable news services to verify the facts of a story before reporting on it. Seems the problem is that verification takes more time and some other reporting site will get the story out there first because they don’t bother fact-checking it.

        • NancyP

          The problem is 24-7-365 cable news and the temptation to skip the confirmatory two independent sources in order to get the story on “first”.

          • Gianni

            Exactly! How many times has Fux News been guilty of that and then had egg on their faces?

          • righteous mob

            And that’s where the money is.

        • perversatile

          Tonight at Six-
          ”Local Baseball legend tweets- My 15 yo daughter was raped by Judge Roy Barnes at a 4-H Fundraiser. She is now pregnant. We have received death threats from a women sounding like Mrs.Barnes”

          The anchorperson shows a screen shot of the above
          tweet, effectively verifying the report. Which is a story
          on a a man sending a tweet, not a report about a man
          making a lurid incendiary accusation of sexual assault.

          – right after I called him paranoid and he accused me of being jejune, a buddy explains how easily false information can be propagated, using this rather broad example.

        • DaveW

          There used to
          BE consequences for getting it wrong because people cared.

          • Gianni

            Absolutely. Any news service that didn’t report the facts and make corrections to any mistakes wouldn’t be in business for long. People expected/demanded the truth/facts. You’re so right about people caring about the truth. Now, it’s apparent that the facts aren’t very important so long as the reporting gets people excited and throws shade on the people they don’t like.

        • Nowhereman

          Yes–and I remember the days when they not only wanted to get it first, but to get it right. Watergate comes to mind.

    • dr morbius

      Hey, he’s inheriting Obama’s autocratic drone program, why stop there?

  • canoebum

    An effective strategy would be to build a whole lot of MENTAL HOSPITALS and start getting these people committed.

    • Dave Babler

      Once again Reagan and a serious misfire by the ACLU in the 1980’s continues to screw us

    • BudClark

      MOST religion is a DANGEROUS mental illness. I’ll forgive my Episcopal Church … they are sane, and have GLORIOUS liturgy and music .

  • Brian in Valdosta

    Unless the government can craft a bill that separates out fake news as slander, then I don’t see how they can get around First Amendment protections.

    • Gianni

      Neither do I.

    • JCF

      Was just watching MSNBC story re the burgeoning fake news INDUSTRY in Macedonia: they’re getting (comparatively) rich on GOOGLE money!!!! Just stop ***monetizing*** this bullshit, and it will go away.

  • John Kusters

    I’m in favor of marking suspicious sources as suspicious, and of encouraging critical thinking skills, but not in favor of using Federal powers to limit speech or squelch the free press. Any power granted along those lines will come back to haunt us.

    • EweTaw

      It’s the time honored Rubber/Glue gambit. “I’m rubber. You’re glue. What you say bounces of me and sticks to you.” The trick is to always be rubber in every instance.

    • Natty Enquirer

      And who will do the marking? How can we know that such an authority is above suspicion itself?

      • NZArtist

        You set up an independent commission which is rated on criteria for proving the veracity of news sources. The criteria is made public, and can be independently verified by anyone. You keep the commission honest by making it open and transparent, so they keep the trust of the public.

        • dr morbius

          That is anti-free speech and anti-American. At last the JMG Dems are showing their colors…

          • NZArtist

            1) I’m not JMG. I’m me.
            2) I don’t live in the US, and I’m not a US citizen so my politics are irrelevant.
            3) You’re a brainless wanker.
            4) I wasn’t proposing putting any limitations at all on what you can say, or where you can say it. The purpose of the commission is to enforce the labelling of your product. And as I pointed out, it would be imperative they remain entirely transparent – any critique or criteria they publish would have to be independently verifiable to retain the public trust.
            Let me repeat again for the very stupid: I’m not saying speech should be limited or restricted (outside situations where it already is, obviously (or not obviously, for the very stupid people who need someone to say it)). I’m saying it should be rated by verifiable facts, and sites claiming to be news should be regularly audited for there adherence to accurate labelling standards. Sites which flout the regulations should absolutely be punished.
            So, for the very very very stupid: I’m not advocating putting any restrictions on what you can say and where you can say it at all. Just that the contents (for sites who say stuff to large audiences or for commercial gain) be labelled.
            You know, like all other commercial products are labelled.

      • John Kusters

        Well, you’re going to have the same problem no matter the solution chosen, whether it’s labeling it or banning it. It will have to be solved no matter which approach is used, so it’s not really an impediment to any one of them.

        • David Walker

          I think it’s Trump’s Tart’s project, isn’t it. Or at least to control Hair Twitler’s tweets.

  • Michael R

    We’ll put Comey right on it .

    • Nowhereman

      He’ll look into it just as soon as he gets to the bottom of Clinton’s effing emails.

  • Max_1

    Dear Hillary,
    The director of the FBI violated the Hatch Act by constructing a fake story weeks before the election, an election you lost cited by many people as an example of HOW news is constructed to cause harm. Why not persue this?

    • another_steve

      Who among the left will pursue this stuff? Some, I hope.

      I believe that with enough journalistic investigating, persistence and integrity, the Orange Monster will be forced to resign.

      Then we will left with Pence.

      That, the premiere reason for Beefeater gin.

      • marshlc

        He will never be forced to resign – those who resign have some shame, and he has none.

        Those who voted against him were right about one thing – he’s not going to do politics the way it’s been done. Politicians resign when a scandal comes to light, Trump says “Yeah, whatever, fuck off”. Politicians think “The optics of this are bad, I’d better not do it”, Trump says “It’s not very illegal, I’ll do it”.

        • another_steve

          Everyone knows the man has skeletons galore in his closet. It’ll take just one good, persistent investigative journalist to find the right one.

          One that Trump won’t be able to tweet away.

    • Do Something Nice

      Please ask her who in her campaign created the vile fake news stories that Sanders didn’t participate in the Civil Rights era marches.

  • Dave Babler

    She would have made such a wonderful president; we fucked up as a country.

    • another_steve

      Seriously. It was a major fuck-up

      A fuck-up of political — perhaps metaphysical — proportions.

    • dr morbius

      She would’ve likely been an ordinary lousy warmongering prez, which is an improvement on what we got.

      • Dave Babler

        The campaign is over, you can stop lying.

        • dr morbius

          Maybe you could tell the difference between an opinion and a lie if you crawled out of Thrillary’s ****.

  • Richard Rush

    People seem to be talking about “Fake News” as if it were something relatively
    new, but it has actually been flourishing for thousands of years. Otherwise, the world could not have become plagued with religion and its endless variations.

    It’s no surprise that the vast majority of fake news comes from people who are either religious fanatics or knowledgeable in how to exploit the fanatics. And it’s no surprise that the vast majority of those who believe fake news are religious fanatics.

    • NZArtist

      Yeah, but it used to be labelled as ‘religion’ so you knew it was garbage.
      Now it’s peddled as fact.

      • Gianni

        To ready believers, religion is fact. These days there are so many ways to fact-check what is reported in the news.

        • Schlukitz

          True that.

          But the problem is, too many folks are just too lazy to bother fact-checking news items before sharing and forwarding.

          • Gianni

            It’s depressing to realize that it’s a real minority of people who are interested enough in the facts and truth to take the time to be sure they’re getting just that.

          • Schlukitz

            Indeed, it is.

            And in support of that, is this depressing piece of information passed on to me by a friend of long standing.

            http://www.politicususa.com/2016/12/08/trump-supporters-alternate-reality.html

          • Gianni

            I watched that on Rachel’s show. It is a real horror story actually happening in our real world.

          • David Walker

            Fact-checking sounds so old-fashioned. It’s so old-fashioned and time consuming. People, I seriously think, prefer being spoon fed.

            And it’s good to see you again, Schlukitz. I’ve missed reading your comments.

          • Schlukitz

            Thank you, kind Sir.

            I am an avid reader of your comments as well.

          • BudClark

            Has Zhy-Kitty checked in lately? I always worry when we don’t hear from her.

          • Schlukitz

            I have to admit that since the election, I have been somewhat of a stranger to JMG and am kind of in a news blackout to try to screw my head back on correctly. I did exchange some email with Zhy-Kitty back in mid-Oct. and owe her a reply. She seemed to be just fine. Like me and several others on this site, she has probably just backed-off a bit to regain her composure.

        • dr morbius

          To Dembots, every theory about why Clinton lost the election is gospel.

          • Gianni

            I don’t deal in any of those theories. Fact is she lost in the Electoral College.

        • DaveW

          That’s the the problem with religion. The stupid believe it out of selfishness.

        • NZArtist

          Religious people are stupid – they believe in ghosts. But books and movies have to be labelled as works of fiction. The exception are religious books, but as they’re religious books they’re already labelled as fiction.
          How do you check whether the cookies you buy in the supermarket are going to make you ill? Are you required to research them online hoping you can find a reliable source to verify the ingredient list? Obviously not – that would be silly. Instead you can just read the label, because it’s important to know what you’re eating.
          It is equally important to know what you’re stuffing into your brain. Why not require the manufacturers of commercial content to label their products?

    • Nowhereman

      True that. If you’re already programmed to believe and follow religious dogma without proof, then fake news is the natural progression.

    • Misutaa Roboto

      The existence of fake news is old news. But it has been proliferating in a way I haven’t witnessed in my lifetime, and social media have been major enablers of that.

  • another_steve

    You go gurl.

    I alternate these days between wanting to have another Beefeater martini and wanting to die.

  • sequel

    it breaks my heart to see her speak. the world needed her, but the american electorate succumbed to fear instead

    • another_steve

      Her vs. Trump.

      I mean… was this election not a travesty?

      • pch1013

        No, but the result was.

        • Moebym, Resistance Pilot

          This election was a travesty. That’s WHY the result was what it was.

    • Jamie_Johnson

      Yes, there was a certain amount of fear involved, but the real reason was that Americans were lied to, manipulated, and last but not least, don’t like strong women in charge. I’m tempted to put Cheetolini’s “Sad!” to conclude, but it is indeed sad that we passed over the most qualified candidate for the presidency of our lifetimes in favor of… Cheetolini.

    • dr morbius

      No one would need that warmongering neolib in a USA where it doesn’t cost $2 billion to run for fucking president.

  • bkmn

    The bigger problem is that the GOP is going to make it very hard for anyone who typically leans Democratic to vote in the future, making it impossible for a Democrat to win an election. I have zero faith in Schumer to stand firm for four years – Schumer loves to compromise and that is the worst thing possible with the lunatics in charge.

  • LesbianTippingHabits

    If Congress is actually going to do something worthwhile, could Congress repeal the “tip credit” from the minimum wage law? Wait staff would benefit. Thank you.

    • bobbyjoe

      They better do it fast, considering who Trump just nominated as Labor Secretary.

  • Nowhereman

    Gee–do you think that Melania will give her a jingle, maybe do lunch and then work on cyber bullying and fake news?…(snark)

  • You mean the Congress that maintained its majority in part thanks to fake news? Yeah, that’s gonna happen.

  • pch1013

    Unfortunately, Congress has no jurisdiction in Macedonia (or Montenegro or Serbia or Russia or any of those other Slavic shitholes where this crap originates).

  • Well, as reported here…fake news and spreading fake news is not only a sin; but those who do it are shit eaters…oh the new elite! Here is where I picked up the story. http://www.joemygod.com/2016/12/07/breitbart-eats-poop/

  • DaddyRay

    I worry about this because – it should not be something controlled by the government. The media that is spreading fake news intensionally or by not doing their job verifying should be called out. We do not want to become a country with government controlled media – look at how this as turned out for North Korea, China and Russia.

    • NZArtist

      And yet the BBC used to be one of the most respected news organizations in the world.

      • BudClark

        So did The New York Times …

    • Schlukitz

      I recognize how dangerous false news is, yet my thoughts (and fears) are exactly the same as yours.

    • GreatLakeSailor

      You’re right to be concerned. This is what Congress is doing…all but 30 Congresspeople voted for this:

      McCarthy’s Ghost Smiles as Dems Point the Finger at Russia
      http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/12/08/mccarthys-ghost-smiles-dems-point-finger-russia

      On Tuesday, Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) and six ranking members of major House committees sent President Obama a letter declaring, “We are deeply concerned by Russian efforts to undermine, interfere with, and even influence the outcome of our recent election.”

      A prominent signer of the letter — Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee — is among the Democrats most eager to denounce Russian subversion.

      A week ago, when the House approved by a 390-30 margin and sent to the Senate the Intelligence Authorization Act for fiscal 2017, Schiff praised “important provisions aimed at countering Russia’s destabilizing efforts — including those targeting our elections.” One of those “important provisions,” Section 501, sets up in the executive branch “an interagency committee to counter active measures by the Russian Federation to exert covert influence.”

      This high-level committee could easily morph into a protracted real-life nightmare.

      Ooo, more powers to the President!

      While lacking public accountability, the committee is mandated to ferret out such ambiguous phenomena as Russian “media manipulation” and “disinformation.” Along the way, the committee could target an array of activists, political opponents or irksome journalists. In any event, its power to fulfill “such other duties as the president may designate” would be ready-made for abuse.

      The committee is to be selected by presidential appointees, including the director of the FBI — an agency with leadership that has all too often pursued covert and overt political agendas, from the times of J. Edgar Hoover to James Comey.

      All in all, the provision is a gift for the next president, tied up in a bow by congressional Democrats.

      Mmm, more Police State. You think Obama laid waste to OWS using the FBI, Homeland, Fusion Centers and Militarized Police – and he did – what’ll happen with even more unchecked, Unitary Powers to come….

      • dr morbius

        YEP!

  • Mark

    There are controls already in place to stop this non-sense on the internet. I would implore the responsibility be placed firmly on the site and the editor. If they post fake news – wham! – their IP/DNS is gone…..with a minimum waiting period (a couple years??) to get a new one.

    As for those sites whose main effort is fake news (the Onion, etc), every article needs to be prefaced with a date/time stamp + “fake news” in a minimum 12 pt standardized font. In other words – its gotta be friggin obvious!

    In the long haul, all public schools and colleges MUST add “Critical Thinking” to their required curriculum.

  • Paul David

    This is SO funny!

    The barrage of fake news we will hear over the next four years will make the 2016 presidential campaign look like a cake walk!

    Buckle up, kids, because we are in for a ride!

    • Moebym, Resistance Pilot

      Don’t forget the barf bags.

  • Grant Low

    Oh hell no. This is insane. Who will Trump appoint to administer this? Alex Jones?

    • The Return of Traxley

      Secretary of Truth and Reason.

  • Dagoril
    • Gianni

      Along with the cranberries? That means that the dolphin poop is also in there with the berries.

      • OdieDenCO

        they are one and the same. bog berry aka bog dolphin’s dingle berry

      • JCF

        You’re missing the point (what’s this thread about again?)

        • Gianni

          🙂 There was a point?

  • Gianni

    Not to worry. Donald calls everything fake if it isn’t his idea or it doesn’t flatter him. The news organizations are the worst because they report what he says using his own words then Donald calls them liars. He already determines what is fake and what is not.

  • Gil

    Go away you stupid cow.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      Oh look, a Trumpanzee flinging feces, how quaint.

      • Gil

        Oh look, another Clinton stooge who’s too lazy to do any research before flapping its gums.

      • The Return of Traxley

        Nah, it’s a pure, progressive snowflake here to enlighten us Clinton sheeple using the Sarandon Method.

        I don’t need this shit today or any other day.

        Blocked.

    • Bad Tom

      Fuck off.

  • MikeBx2

    She’s absolutely correct. You can’t yell fire in a crowded theater and you shouldn’t be able to knowingly spread false news of a business harboring child abusers. It puts people’s lives at risk.

    • dr morbius

      Who will be the state censor, you fascists?

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    She’s right, of course, so you can bet the far-left and the Nazis on the right will do all they can to discredit her with more half-truths and lies.

  • SoCalGal20

    This is a cute moment from her speech.

    https://twitter.com/deray/status/807003213647978496

    Also, if you’re not following the HRC In the Wild twitter, you should be. It will put a smile on your face.

    https://twitter.com/hrcinthewild/status/807003443953041408

  • Droz

    I’m sure they’ll get right on that. Even though it is the very same fake news that keeps getting them elected.

  • Marty

    Hillary’s only crime was that she was an ambitious woman. If she were such a malicious power hungry madwoman who kills to get her way – where is that evidence now after the fact when you would expect someone of that nature to be pulling out all the cards and the kitchen sink too ? Hillary would have done wonders for America and our government would have been working with *experts* who know their field and have plans implemented to overcome obstacles within the bounds of integrity and the Constitution. Fasten your seatbelts, yes, it’s gonna be a bumpy ride alright.

  • That_Looks_Delicious

    She’s right that this is an extremely serious problem, and it’s only one of the many ways that the internet and social media are destroying what we used to know as “society.” But I can’t see how this issue could be tackled without infringing on freedom of the press and freedom of association.

    And then there’s the logistical side of this: Since the majority of it seems to be coming from overseas, but the internet knows no national boundaries, I’m not sure that the U.S. Congress can really do anything about it.

    • Bad Tom

      Choose:

      Complete freedom of speech, or civilization.

  • aar9n

    It is not fake news, it is propaganda
    It is not alt-right, it is white nationalism
    It is not religious freedom, it’s discrimination.

    Stop using words that hide what it truly is.

    • JellyDonut

      You notice how the air-right (or whatever title – white nationalist, neo-nazi, etc…) hate being tagged by that title.

  • DaveW

    If the government wants to solve this, we already know how. Why are so many 30 something and younger so ignorant? Why do so few people save? Buy junk online that they don’t need? Have cars and homes they can’t afford?

    Education

    I am 49. We had to read the paper and circle errors and opinions slipped in as news. We had home economics. We were taught gardening, repair shop as avenues to thrift. It made a difference. My family instilled similar values-we were affluent and my school had college like amenities with Mercedes and BMW s in the lot, this was about values, not necessity. (I had my grandmothers buick Electra! Not fancy but it was the party car of choice with my much more well off than me friends!)

    I’ll go George will on you now: a three generation cycle of dependency, society owes you a middle class life has combined with bad education to get us here where fox, fake news fool people and a populist liar gets elected

    This is fixable. It’s like the drug war. Fix education, don’t ban speech. Go after demand, not supply. Stop telling people they don’t have to move or re educate, it won’t be all right if they don’t try!

    • The Milkman

      I’m only a couple years younger than you are. The chorus with which I sing has lots of people in it who are 30 something or younger, from all walks of life. I would estimate that 90% of them are thoughtful, smart, and reasonable. So while I will certainly criticize the safe-space trigger-warning types, I wouldn’t necessarily go so far as to suggest that this problem with the electorate lies with them. Looking at Trump’s rallies, I would suggest that the basket of deplorables contains plenty of people our age or older.

      • BudClark

        It has been said repeatedly that participation in music raises the I.Q. … it also usually makes one a CIVILIZED person.

  • JellyDonut

    It will NEVER happen under the Trump administration as they and the GOP are the ones responsible for the fake news.

    • The Milkman

      Not necessarily. Did you see the recent article in which one of the guys who created this fake news stuff was tracked down and interviewed? He was making all this crazy right wing fake crap, but he himself was a Democrat. Of course he was making tens of thousands of dollars a month doing it, so maybe that had something to do with his decision making process.

      The love of money is the root of all evil.

      • BudClark

        Camel … Eye … Needle …

    • Kelly Lape

      I agree, Der Pumpkin Fuehrer benefits so America’s interests aren’t relevant.