Pence’s New DC Neighbors Troll Him With Pride Flags

Washington DC’s ABC affiliate reports:

Christmas decorations are popping up left and right, but one street in NW Washington has a different kind of decoration this season—rainbow flags. “A respectful message showing, in my case, my disagreement with some of his thinking,” said Ilse Heintzen.

The ‘he’ Heintzen is referring to is Vice-President Elect Mike Pence. Pence moved into a house on Heintzen’s block where he will stay on-and-off until he moves into the Vice-President’s mansion on the grounds of the Naval Observatory next year.

Neighbors started hanging the pride flags after the VP-Elect moved in because the LGBTQ community has criticized Pence’s policies regarding LGBTQ rights. Heintzen has gay and lesbian friends, so when one neighbor suggested ordering a pride flag, she and others asked for their own.

“I have no idea what [the Vice-President Elect] will think about, but I hope he will change his mind.” There are roughly a half-dozen pride flags hanging on the block, and more are on the way. “This is one way that I can show my disagreement,” said Heintzen.

  • Todd20036

    Pence is by far the most anti-LBGT vice president we’ve ever had.
    He’s so repulsive, I’d consider him worse for our side than Trump would be.
    And Trump scares the crap out of me.

    • T-Batwoman

      And you know it’s just a matter of time until drumpf is impeached….

      • Todd20036

        Maybe, but that would turn off a LOT of Trumpanzees.

        • John30013

          They’re so full of cognitive dissonance that I’m not convinced that any malfeasance short of homicide would turn most of them against him.

          • NancyP

            Even homicide would be ok with the Trumpanzees, as long as it involved an immigrant, a black person, or a white woman who isn’t “chaste”. You heard that comment Trump made about how he could walk down 5th Ave NYC and shoot someone, and his fans would be fine with it.

      • Treant

        Maybe. Even so, I’m thinking that Congressional Republicans, realizing that Pence would be an even greater disaster in some ways, probably have a strategy to get rid of him, too.

        Probably by tying him to Trump’s actions directly.

        • And then we’d be stuck with President Paul Ryan.

          • Todd20036

            Ryan is no prize, but he beats the alternatives.

          • GayOldLady

            I’m not to sure of that. He’s a blazing Ayn Rand acolyte and nothing good comes from that.

          • agreed. plus, he’s young and telegenic. he would be hard to dislodge and he’s quite good at sneaking Randian crap under the radar.

          • GayOldLady

            He makes the straight girls swoon, because physique! But if they knew how dark his soul is they’d see the same thing I see when I look at him, Boris Badenov.

          • Steverino

            He has the same scrawny bird legs as Boris.

          • Todd20036

            He’s also a spineless liar who knows he’d be in over his head.

          • Ragnar Lothbrok

            He used to require his staff read Atlas Shrugged until he got called out on it.

          • jcdevildog

            Did he give them a quiz to see if they’d actually read it? I ask because I tried once in my misspent youth and couldn’t get through it to save my life. Tried “The Fountainhead”, which was even worse: it should have been titled “Misogyny for Fun and Profit”–with any fun involved being solely the property of the male characters. Ugh!

          • Guest

            Ryan’s goal is complete elimination of the social safety net. Poor and old people will be fucked. And since we will all be poor anyway under Repug control, we’re fucked 3 x.

          • MonochromeMouse

            That would be better than Trump or Pence, conservatives hate Ryan, liberals hate Ryan, and no one is intimidated by Ryan, so he would basically just be a placeholder till we can get a qualified president in 2020.

        • Uncle Mark

          The GOP may look at Pence as someone they can control & manipulate, unlike the orange shitgibbon. Trump thrives on popularity; that’s why he’s against TPPP and rethinking the ACA repeal. The GOP will eventually remove Trump when his popularity inevitably falters, after reneging on enough promises & his plans fail. Then the GOP will put their little puppet in place, who will push through the unpopular changes Trump won’t make.

          • Treant

            Maybe, but even there the calculus of electability has to come into play. Lose the House in 2018 and the gravy train comes to an abrupt end.

          • marshlc

            As long as something unpopular is done more than six months before an election, voters won’t remember it and won’t punish a party for it. So timing is part of electability, but actual implemented policy? Not so much.

          • Jeffrey

            I could see that happening. The GOP and Trump already hate each other but are making strange bedfellows during this part of the transition. Once it becomes politically expedient he could be ousted, but then Trumpanzees will riot in their trailers and cages. And evangelicals will pray doom upon us all in the form of a hurricane that will finally destroy Florida. So, I guess it isn’t all bad news.

        • teeveedub

          You have way more faith the the Republicans than I. So far, all they have done is go along to get along. The parade of supplicants to tRump Tower is just one example.

          • Treant

            Wait. The instant approval rating slide due to Trump’s actions, or donations start to slip, the party will turn on him like a dog on a steak.

      • Jeffrey

        Trump is already on the path toward impeachment. He will be unable to keep his business separate from his job as president. However, I have less and less faith in the media and the government to do their jobs to call him out. So Im not sure if we will see his feet held to the fire by anyone but ourselves.

        • MonochromeMouse

          The media will do like they did during the election, focus on the crazy bullshit he says online and only focus on clickbaitey scandals like “grab em by the pussy”

          • Jeffrey

            Funny how there were fifty different things that should have stopped Trump from ever being the nomination, much less president. But here we are. Amazing.

          • MonochromeMouse

            What really sold me on cutting ties with all Trump voters I know was the fact that Trump was caught on tape bragging about sexual assault, admitted to it and acted like that kind of talk is normal, and then they still chose to vote for him,

          • Librarykid

            Hate trumps reason.

          • Jeffrey

            One of my colleagues told me last week that her daughter who had been sexually assaulted at 17 wasn’t speaking to her anymore because she had voted for Trump. She said “he apologized!” That’s when I knew I needed to not deal with her any more than I had to.

          • MonochromeMouse

            Yeah, that one comment Trump made is what turned this from a simple Democrats vs Republicans election into Good or at least Neutral vs Evil.

          • josephsinger

            Trump said during the campaign that he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue in New York an;d no one would care. He was probably right.

          • Len Ricci

            just goes to show ya how many people he can pay off to get what he wants.

          • jcdevildog

            Pay off…or scam. A lot of voters think they’ll get a payoff, but more likely it’ll be a kiss-off.

          • Jerry

            You just know that someone will eventually leak behind-the-scenes footage from “Apprentice”, which is reportedly much worse.

          • The_Wretched

            It’s a crime on the country that those tapes were buried.

          • josephsinger

            But time and time again it’s been shown that Trump supporters DGAS.

          • josephsinger

            Of course the media will. It’s what drives traffic. It casuses web clicks and; newspaper sales and TV eyes.. They really DGAS whether what they are reporting/emphasizing is clickbaity or not. All they care about is $$$ they get from eyeballs.

        • teeveedub

          With a GOP House and Senate, you can bet that they’ll drag their feet about bringing impeachment proceedings, no matter how egregious or criminal tRump’s behavior is.

          • Earl

            It depends. If he tosses them enough red meat, they’ll be happy. If/when he fuck up, or can’t deliver on a promise they like, they’ll happily impeach him to get Pence.

            🙁

        • John30013

          NPR and ProPublica are doing some good reporting on this, as is the Washington Post. Some Congress critters have also expressed concerns. So I hope it will continue to be a very visible and irritating issue to the next administration.

        • Richard

          I just don’t believe Republicans in the house would impeach trump…he’s one of them ! They would’ve impeached Hillary in a heartbeat, but trump, meh. It’s going to be a very long, painful, and dangerous four years. Hopefully in the midterms Democrats can come back…… In the meantime Democrats in the senate should filibuster the shit out of everything !

        • The_Wretched

          Chafets has already said they won’t investigate Trump and will continue Clinton hearings even if she’s pardoned and can’t be prosecuted for any of it.

          • jcdevildog

            Nice illustration of the difference between “statesmanship” and “demagoguery”.

        • rednekokie

          Even in spite of all that, it will be at least two years and a turnover in Congress before Trump will be impeached, no matter what he does.
          He can turn the white house into a whore house, and the republicans will not say a word about it — and there are not enough democrats to stand up to him.
          Unfortunately.
          This is why 2018 is so very very important to get out the vote.

          • jcdevildog

            I’m visualizing Trump renaming the Lincoln bedroom as the Putin bedroom and reserving it solely for Putin. And Trump’s supporters will be OK, because Lincoln started the Civil War and freed those damn slaves. The Daughters of the Confederacy have more to answer for than they know.

      • shivadog

        And then we get president Pence.He would probably be even worse than Trump.

        • Derrick Johns

          I think you’re right, shivadog. But Pense could have never beaten any Democrat in a national general election. So, now we’re left with the big Orange Blob as president. Who wants to put Pence in the White House?

    • another_steve

      Trump will certainly, on “Day One,” rescind all of President Obama’s pro-LGBT Executive Orders, but I’m not convinced he’ll go much farther than that on the hate side.

      Too many people now know the nice lesbian or gay married couple downstairs. We queer couples hold the lobby doors open for them. They run into us in the bakery and smile hello.

      I think, with respect to the big gay stuff, there’s no turning back for us now, in the U.S.

      • Todd20036

        I hope you are right. I’d “settle” for pro-LBGT EOs being rescinded if it stopped there.

        • another_steve

          The real push will be to stack the Supreme Court with theofascist monsters (like the dead and rotting Scalia) who’ll return to the states the matter of whether same-sex couples can be married. It’s possible that could happen.

          We need to remain vigilant.

          • Chucktech

            We’re currently talking about ONE Supreme Court Justice and the Dems and, more than likely, a few Republican adults in the Senate are hardly going to roll over and let that just happen.

            There’s gonna be LOTS of nasty fighting in Congress in the coming year.

          • Cackalaquiano

            I hope the Dems will grow spines ahead of these fights. Aside from Warren, does anyone have any fight in them?

          • Anne Bowie

            Bernie certainly seems to. Also Cory Booker. There are also a record number of both women and minorities in the Senate this year and they inhabit both sides of the aisle. I think we’ll see some serious battles.

          • Cackalaquiano

            I hope so. And I hope the Dems do some serious reflection. They need to groom the next generation of leaders. And they need to figure out how to appeal to workers and win elections.

      • NancyP

        Don’t bet on that. There’s a huge divide between urban coastal and the rest of the country. Even “liberal” cities in the Midwest, South, Plains/Mountains are still not friendly to gay PDAs outside of “the gay district” and even there one sees the occasional bashing. It’s better than 20 years ago, but not better enough that backsliding is impossible.

        • another_steve

          The “religious freedom” scam will certainly pick up steam during Trump’s presidency. The theofascists brilliantly seized upon it as a tool to erode our community’s freedoms. Now one of their leading spokesmen — Pence — will be in the White House.

          It’s a very very difficult scam to explain to the average American. Even the average “on the sidelines” liberal/progressive American.

          How do you convince people that something as benign-sounding as “religious freedom” is sometimes a very very bad thing.

    • Michael Abbett

      I’d rank him and Quayle evenly on that score, except that Pence didn’t come from the kind of money Quayle did so he probably thinks he has more to prove. He’s vile.

  • Anastasia Beaverhousen

    I will contribute towards holiday decorations in rainbow colors!

    • bsinps

      All LGBT people and their allies should make this decorative statement this year.
      😁 😁 😁

      • CanuckDon

        It would be an incredible trend to see happen….certainly one of healing, unity, and comforting strength.

      • Oikos

        In some places it makes us targets.

        • The_Wretched

          My parents were warned when they lived in NC that they shouldn’t put up ‘colored’ lights. Being new and Northerners they were given a pass in their first year but had to ‘fix it’ after that.

      • Cackalaquiano

        Rainbow garland and antique Shiny Brites on our tree. Does it get gayer than that?
        Edit: not nearly as public as a flag though

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    And suddenly Pence is now in favor of flag burning.

    • Treant

      Well, only certain flags. The wrong kind of flags. You could say…the wrong color of flag.

      • bambinoitaliano

        He would start eliminating the L first after consulting the LCR.

        • Silver Badger

          A google search yielded too many definitions for the term LCR. Could you please explain?

          • Chris

            Log Cabin Republicans, I believe

          • bambinoitaliano

            Sorry. so use to the new lazy way of communicating. It’s Log Cabin Republicans 🙂

          • Dreaming Vertebrate

            It’s an abbreviation for Quisling.

          • Silver Badger

            Thank you. As I said, google didn’t help this time.

    • Steverino

      Pence expects us to be shocked by him. In fact, he will push to have it enshrined in law.

  • tcinsf

    Awesome.

  • Jamsie

    That man is a pig. And I bet the sob has lots of skeletons in his closets.

    • Mark

      I don’t doubt he has skeletons in his closets…but I do doubt anyone is willing to “rattle” ’em.

      • Silver Badger

        Guess again.

    • Silver Badger

      I certainly hope to Thor he does. Each and every one needs to be drug out into the light for all to see. Has anyone taken a hard look at his taxes? It worked for Agnew!

    • Todd20036

      I’ve known pigs. Pigs are friends of mine. I fuck pigs.

      Pence is no pig.

      But I might be.

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      There has to be something. There always is.

  • OdieDenCO

    this makes me smile.

  • Treant

    When did making a political statement of support for a community become “trolling?”

    They’re not hassling him with this, or insulting him directly with it. They’re saying that they’re in support of LBGT rights. That’s not, in any sense, trolling–it’s expressing disagreement with the incoming VP’s very public statements.

    More power to ’em. I’d be putting colored lights on the flag pole for the Christmas season as well, personally!

    • MonochromeMouse

      It’s a little bit of both. They are doing it because they are LGBT allies, but chose their methods because they want to send a message to Pence and get some sort of reaction out of him. that is what “trolling” started as before it became a new word for “bullying”

      • Treant

        Maybe, but I wouldn’t call a simple flag hanging “trolling.” A pointed statement about what you think, maybe. 🙂

        • MonochromeMouse

          It’s only sortof trolling because it’s attention grabbing and they are doing it specifically because Pence is their neighbor, It’s much more, as you said, making their opinions known, I was simply defending the use of the word “trolling” used to describe it. It’s definitely a good thing whatever you choose to call it.

      • The Return of Traxley

        I disagree. I see the neighbors’ action as a sign of allies demonstrating solidarity with the gay community and visibly showing support for equal protection under the law. They’re doing it in an unmistakably public way to let Pence know that he’s NOT a resident of a community of closed-minded conservatives like himself — that there are many people who reject his beliefs and agenda. It may not change his mind, but it will likely give him a sharp mental poke, and maybe will cause him to realize that he faces a bigger battle than he assumed.

  • CanuckDon

    Tears…lots of them!

  • bambinoitaliano

    Waiting for Trump’s tweet demanding the neighborhood to issue apology to Pence. Something about the area should be safe for a bigot to live in.

  • Johnny Wyeknot

    Hahaha!

  • Gustav2

    Some of my African American neighbors cannot understand why the husband and I are very worried. Some think we get a pass because we are white and marriage equality solved everything.

    • Silver Badger

      Ain’t that Thor’s own truth! People forget that all the “white male privilege” has an “except for queers” clause.

      • Earl

        Not always. 🙁

        Years ago, I went home one after a halloween party with a hot guy who was in Nazi drag. (I should have known better, but he was hot)
        The next morning, when we first talked, (I really should have known better, but he was really fucking hot) he told me that he had been a member of a White Supremacist group in southern Alberta that had a ‘gay friendly’ clause; because of him.

        He didn’t get breakfast.

        I never go home with someone without asking more questions, now…

        • Ray Taylor

          No way would I have even spoke to someone in Nazi drag.

          • Earl

            He was really hot, and I was 20…

            Shut up. 🙂

    • John Ruff

      I’ve had black friends tell me that as a gay white man I don’t face discrimination.

      • Gustav2

        When sitting on our front porch one neighbor was shocked when I related a story of our treatment at a car dealer just a couple of years ago. I don’t think she really got it.

        • Silver Badger

          She probably didn’t. Some people are so overly sensitive, don’t chew know.

          • Gustav2

            Yes, my gaydar also pings on discrimination and homophobic language. Often, I have to escort the hubby away from some folks and businesses, he has more of an immunity or cultural deafness. Many in the rural county where he was raised still talk in ways that are scary…but they LOVE us!

          • boatboy_srq

            It’s amazing what some people will say when they assume you’re part of their crowd, innit?

          • Gustav2

            Since I have been going to the in-laws and some businesses, restaurants and bars every other weekend for 30 years…they forget.

          • Snarkaholic

            I know. While I was still in college, my mother died and a co-worker, upon hearing this, invited me to spend Christmas at her house with her family.
            While I was there, the father unwrapped a gift (yellow shirt and white chinos), and one of my co-worker’s brothers said, “Wow, when you walk down the street wearing that, people are going to think you’re an “N-word!!!”
            Almost everyone in the family erupted in hysterical laughter, with my co-worker actually elbowing me in the rib.
            Horrified, I stared at the floor. When I raised my gaze, I saw the mother looking at me sympathetically, but, needless to say, I never went back there.

          • boatboy_srq

            I hate to say it, but the more overt version is a little less offensive: there’s no “we’re bigots, but we’ll pretend to be nice to appease You People©” at work.

        • boatboy_srq

          I suddenly have a far better impression of the housemate’s last car-buying experience. Go FIAT!

          Were you and yours shown the day spa at the dealer, where your wives/girlfriends/mistresses could get their hair and nails done while the car was serviced? We got that from one (other) dealer we visited. Needless to say they won’t get either of us as customers.

          • Gustav2

            We were condescendingly. half mincingly asked which one was “the decision maker in your little family” and “You guys don’t care about performance, just gas millage” other cute things by the Boomer aged manly man manager. The younger salesman blushed and knew why we left.

            BTW we are both Boomers and drove a brand new Black Mustang convertible to the Toyota showroom.

          • boatboy_srq

            Wow.

            At least the one place we went was too thick-headed to grasp that there would be no “little ladies” in either household, and kept pushing the care-for-the-missus angle to the full service shop (almost as if they offered alignment and fluids check for the women along with the cars).

            Last time I got that kind of smarm it was at a new subdivision, where one of the salespeople mentioned she grew up in my current community “when it was a nice place to live.” You could actually hear her check herself and edit the “white place to live” phrasing on the fly. Pity: the parcel is beautiful and the homes are very nice, but I’m BLEEPed if I’ll buy from racists.

          • Gustav2

            The hubby just figures they can’t help themselves and moves on.

          • boatboy_srq

            Oh, they CAN help themselves. They’re just too comfortable with their bitterness and resentment.

          • Gustav2

            but…but…but they are NOT homophobic!

            Just ask any reporter doing interviews trying to figure out how Trump won the Midwest.

          • Snarkaholic

            Wow, when even mega-greedy car salesmen can’t keep their hatred under wraps long enough to complete the transaction!

  • XAV

    I guarantee you it will not change his mind.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      That’s basically the definition of a conservative.

    • Cackalaquiano

      Probably not, but my hope is the “pragmatic politician” mind will come through and make him think picking on LGBTs isn’t worth the fight.
      But no, he’ll never love us. Don’t wait around for his Christmas card in the mail.

      • Anne Bowie

        That is true. He did re-work Indiana’s religious freedom bill when it became clear that the economic and political fallout was going to be very high. In my state, our (hopefully) soon to be ex-governor, was willing to lose thousands of jobs and at least three major sporting events to keep ours.

    • The Return of Traxley

      If anything, it will strengthen his resolve to push back and get even with the “elites” to make his slack-jawed Jeebus freaks happy.

  • I doubt that he will, but Pence will soon learn that if he wants an invite to any of the better DC dinner parties (the ones with the really good catering and witty guests who can talk about more than football or their golf game) he’ll need to change his attitude.

    • boatboy_srq

      You think Pence wants to discuss anything but football and golf (and possibly his Gun-Totin’-Capitalist-Jeebus-blessed crusade against recreational abortionists, non-procreative sexualists and other sinners)? My, you’re optimistic.

      • There’s still the catering issue, but my inner liberal elite tells me it’s probably even more optimistic to think he prefers gourmet vol-au-vents to Ritz crackers and spray cheese.

        • boatboy_srq

          Papa John’s pizza and Chik-fil-a tenders…

        • perversatile

          Cottonelle floral arrangements, pizza catering, christian pastries and he’ll have to have his pants hemmed at the dry cleaners

  • Gene

    as scared as I am…and I AM scared/disappointed/ashamed of how the (electoral college) election went…this morning I thought of one thing that gives me my FIRST hope in a long time.

    We won the culture war. save on the issue of abortion rights (alas…I am pro choice, but, realistic…there is still a real divide on that one, even among Millenials) we won.
    Fortune 500 companies will make their opinions WELL known on any anti gay laws..and lawmakers get relected by their donations. TV channels are not going to start showing anti gay characters as the “normal” ones again. Universities (the small minority of Fundy ones aside, but, thats always been that way, and their day is passing, for the youth, even though 2/3 of them are still religiously affiliated, have no use for homophobia…even the minority of the 2/3 who are fundamentalist have moved towards tolerance on this issue, much to their elders chagrin) will not go “anti gay” and the majority of Americans who now support Marriage Equality will be very, very loud, even the many republicans I know, when anti gay laws are proposed.

    its at the legal edges I am concerned…school policies that will have the effect of discriminating against Trans students, rules saying contractors on schools and government buildings cannot discriminate against GLBT people…etc…those will slip by with little public fanfare…but, overall, SCOIETY is with us. Even Trump had to PRETEND to be, as he ran.

    but, we wont go back to far on GLBT rights, and, sad to say, maybe the VAST majority of people whom I talk to who think GLBT people are ALREADY covered by civil rights act protections (most of us in most states are NOT) will see the truth now and then FIGHT for them!

    they squeeked through a crack in the electoral college, and we had more votes for POTUS, and MORE votes for congress people.(blue districts sometimes have 80, 90 % relecton numbers, vs 65 ot 70 even in safe red seats). there are MORE of us than there are of them.

    Remember that folks, when the shit hits the fan..and it WILL.
    but we came through a plague, and survived stronger. The older men here…they remember. I am in my 40s, so I dont remember as much, but…even I remember all the funerals….
    the older Women here…they remember running blood drives, and bringing food when other people were scared to even visit men with AIDS…they had our backs, and I stand in AWE of them.
    There are more of us then there are of them…and, even some of “them” just voted out of a fear of losing their jobs/way of life (stupidly, but, without malice).

    its gonna be hell..but, we will get through it. we have been in far worse straits, and come out victorious. this victory by the right is the thrashing of an angry, declining, demographically doomed patriarchy. we will defeat it. in the end, Love wins, and the arc of the universe really does bend towards justice after all…and straight people put rainbow flags on their houses to say “no..we are not going to quietly go backwards, and if you try to do so, you will pay a political price”:

    please forgive the length, but, as I said, for the first time since the day of national shame, I feel…a bit of hope. And wanted to share it.

    • GayOldLady

      Well I am concerned Gene……The first thing trump will do is repeal all of the executive orders that keep LGBT who work for Federal Contractors safe. Then, of course, he will appoint a replacement for Scalia. After that we’re looking at 3 SCOTUS judges who aren’t likely to make it four years. Ginsburg, Kennedy and Breyer…..83, 80,78 respectively. Any one of those means a possible challenge and repeal of ROE and Obergefell. I’m not sure if there are cases sitting waiting that will show cause and will be accepted by SCOTUS, but I suspect we’ll get to see in the next 4 years.

      • Homo Erectus

        They only have to survive two years. We’re coming back for the mid-terms. Let’s all make sure Trump doesn’t have a majority in the House or Senate after that. I never thought I’d say this, but I hope Clarence Thomas stays healthy for two more years.

        • Oikos

          I wish I could be that optimistic but the Democratic party is in ruins.

          • Homo Erectus

            We were saying that about the republicans last month.

          • Oikos

            Yes and now they control everything while our leaders talk about working with dump on issues they agree on instead of being a true opposition party. Lack of a spine by our party will win us nothing. They took their eyes off the ball: state governments and now repugs have 30 governorships which is how they get gerrrymandering to keep them in power.

          • The Return of Traxley

            Yep. Democrats need to stop this “reach across the aisle” shit and quit the idiotic “wait and see” attitude. It’s like sitting calmly in the living room of a house engulfed in flames, waiting to see if the fire burns itself out.

            Dems also need to quit appointing old guard leadership to lead the party round and round in their rutted circular path. There are some veteran members (like Howard Dean) who have the chops to implement strategies, but as I’ve said over and over, they MUST NOT continue to ignore the needs and demands of younger voters. They need leaders and spokespeople who stand out in public unapologetically promoting a progressive, liberal agenda that goes far beyond the safe central messages we’ve heard for the last 20 years. They need boldness. They need passion. They need to prove to voters that they’re willing to move forward instead of merely maintaining the status quo.

            The path the party’s on is leading to irrelevancy among young working families and students. While democrats are not likely to lose the support of minority voters, the last election showed them that black voters were significantly less enthusiastic about them as they were during the Obama presidency.

            Just my opinion. Your mileage may vary.

          • Oikos

            Totally agreement from me. People when given the choice of republican and republican-lite will chose republican every time.
            I don’t mind if they reach across the aisle………………………as long as they are holding a shiv in their hands.

          • The Return of Traxley

            Bernie proved that the generations younger than Boomers are incredibly not satisfied by the Democratic Party as it stands today. They want radical change — and maybe they won’t get everything they want now. But it’s like presenting corporate bosses with a budget request — you NEVER give them the amount that’ll just get you by. You submit a request that’s far higher — but fairly reasonable — than you need in anticipation of negotiations. You stand a much better chance of getting what you want. So it is with new legislation. You build a base from which you prove the effort is well spent, and the next round may likely take you further forward.

          • NancyP

            What needs of younger voters? The need to have health insurance coverage? The need for inexpensive higher education? The need for jobs? It strikes me that the Dems have addressed these points. Maybe they have not addressed the housing issue as much as they could have, but a good portion of the bread and butter issues are addressed.

          • The Return of Traxley

            No, they haven’t.

            They’ve paid lip service. They’ve proposed ideas and plans, but neither tailor or market them to the under 30 crowd. They talk a good game but they’ve lacked an aggressive stance and real passion.

            Do you really think a young couple struggling to save a few dollars a week to put towards a down payment on a home are going to think that some guy (or woman) who’s spent a career in Washington and has been living in the tony Virginia suburbs for several decades truly understands what they’re going through? Focus groups don’t cut it. Elizabeth Warren does the best job all around — and the Democratic party is so lucky to have her play offense beyond compare — in channeling the frustrations and demands, but she cannot do it alone!

            Is there anyone under 40 other than Rep. Elliott that’s being recruited and groomed to take the wheel? Or is the party satisfied that the current leadership knows what’s best, and that the “kids” need to give up their illusions of remaking things?

            I am guilty of trusting the Democratic establishment to do the right thing. They have failed all of us spectacularly over the past year with their tone-deafness, resistance to change, and their failure to encourage new blood in an organization that’s sat passively on its hands while Republicans have run the table.

            It has to stop. NOW.

          • Earl

            Hey, do they have enough states to pass a constitutional amendment? 2/3rds, right? So, short by 4…

          • Oikos

            The voters have to approve of it in 2/3 of the states but in terms of control of Governorships they are almost there.

          • Earl

            Ahh, I thought it was passed by the state itself. Good, but then again, if the righties ask the question in the right manner, and catapult the propaganda reich…

          • Oikos

            Exactly. The voters in these states just proved to us how stupid they are.

          • Ragnar Lothbrok

            Short by just 1, the last I heard…

          • Earl

            2/3rds of 50 is 33.3333, 🙂

          • Homo Erectus
        • GayOldLady

          That’s going to be tough. In 2018 we have 23 Democrats running for reelection and 2 independents who caucus with us. That’s 25 seats up for grabs and Democrats have traditionally weak voter turnout in midterms. Republican’s only have 8 seats up in 2018. Just thinking about it makes me sick.

          • olandp

            Just remember 2006, that was a good one, and Fred Phelps is still dead. It’s not all bad.

          • GayOldLady

            Yeah, we still have that.

          • Dreaming Vertebrate

            I haven’t heard much from WBC lately.
            Is Westboro planning to picket der Fuhrer’s inauguration??

          • Homo Erectus

            A girl can dream…..

    • rextrek1

      not to worry my friend…these rightwing buybull freaks WILL BE pushing thru F.A.D.A. – it will BREEZE right threw the House and Senate, and Trump will sign it ……The First Amendment Defense Act……..a LEGAL LAW that will allow OPEN Discrimination Nationwide against LGBT citizens in EVERY Aspect of American Life..

  • The Sentinel

    “I have no idea what [the Vice-President Elect] will think about, but I hope he will change his mind.” LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL, etc.

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      LOL

      • The Return of Traxley

        *snerk*

        • Acronym Jim

          *snort*

    • Robincho

      That’s like Patrick Henry saying “Please, oh, please give me Liberty, or, if not that, then perhaps some other thing”…

    • Well, it’s the thought that counts. :

  • Jim

    Ha,Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha!!!!!

  • Texndoc

    Chris Barron is the one who scribbled https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ab0b28e51502616e2a43b765c02d06841630b13f2a76d013fb034084b617795b.png “LGBTs For Trump” on the upside down flag and gave it to him. Calm down! We’re in good hands./

    • Oikos

      Despicable LCR quisling scum.

      • Todd20036

        I blocked him already. I doubt I’m missing much

        • Oikos

          It was a post about Chris Barron. That was the LCR I was referring to.

    • boatboy_srq

      Makes you wonder whether that wasn’t a subconscious cry for help.

    • The Return of Traxley

      All that botox carries side effects of decreased brain function and intolerable cruelty towards others. There is no cure, only a slow, painful death.

  • bkmn

    Love this.

  • Bill T.

    I just hope “he” doesn’t get even by making us wear pink triangles.

    • Oikos

      We wont need any triangles, we’ll be in the camps clearly designated for our internment.

      • Bill T.

        Those camps better have disco balls and open bars, or I’m calling my congressman.

  • greenmanTN

    Moi! A serious smooch to the people who did this.

  • RNegron

    Pence: “Help! Help! I’m being repressed!”

  • i think i’d be a little more… creative. but i get it. no one wants a visit from the Praetorian guard in the middle of the night b/c you took your dog for a walk “too close” to the Sub Imperial Commander’s temp housing.

  • Neon Maniac

    This is what I like to see. Only way it could be better is if EVERY house on that street had a pride flag surrounding Pence’s place.

  • Lori

    “Neighbors started hanging the pride flags after the VP-Elect moved in
    because the LGBTQ community has criticized Pence’s policies regarding
    LGBTQ rights”

    I’m getting seriously tired of (supposed) news organizations using this kind of construction. The neighbors are not hanging the flags because of community criticism. They’re hanging the flags because of Pence’s polices, which are in fact anti-LGBTQ. I don’t expect ABC to have the courage to tell the truth and call Pence a bigot, but they need to stop with this BS of pushing responsibility for protests off of Pence (and his boss) and onto the people pointing out what they’ve done.

    • expecting real, fair news from a mainstream outlet is an exercise in futility, my friend. balanced, thoughtful journalism is long dead here.

  • SoCalGal20

    Well played, neighbors. Well played. 🙂

  • MBear

    Oh please – the smug POS probably just laughs to himself and mentally notes which neighbours will be the first on the trains to the camps

    • Ray Taylor

      I’m sure I’m on that list already.

  • Dazzer

    Slightly O/T. This is an interesting article in which historians examine the similarities between the 1930s and now:
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/01/comparing-fascism-donald-trump-historians-trumpism

  • rextrek1

    these rightwing buybull freaks WILL BE pushing thru F.A.D.A. – it will BREEZE right threw the House and Senate, and Trump will sign it ……The First Amendment Defense Act……..a LEGAL LAW that will allow OPEN Discrimination Nationwide against LGBT citizens in EVERY Aspect of American Life..

  • Jack

    Nice. Very nice.

  • What a tortured sentence trying to make it seem like it wasn’t Pence’s gay-bashing and support of torture that caused it. Still, good on the neighbors.

  • mikeinrkfd

    This is so affirming, thank you to all that put the flags up.

  • Michael Abbett

    Pence is an extremely insecure and petty man, regardless of how “gracious” he appeared during the Hamilton episode. This will piss him off, but will also steel his resolve to get even with us. This man is more dangerous than anyone can imagine.

    • Lindoro Almaviva

      I love it that every time I see your comments my first reaction is to call my friend Michael Abbett and ask him if he is in here. Hope you are doing OK, OTHER Michael Abbett

  • andrew

    Outstanding move.

  • Lindoro Almaviva

    Pence is facing this kind of push back in several different angles. I know for a fact that his wife will not get her makeup done by her fist choice of makeup artist. I disagree with the move,but it was his choice and he cited Pence’s policies as a direct reason for declining to travel to Washington to hel his wife for the inauguration festivities.

  • glass

    It’s always good to hang garlic (pride flags) to keep away the evil vampires (pence). What a great neighborhood!

  • Gianni

    Will we be getting a tweet from Trump admonishing these people for mistreating his favorite water-boy?

  • Ninja0980

    Not just trolling.
    It’s to show him we’re here and not going away.

  • jcdevildog

    I’m not religious; but if there is a deity, I’m pretty sure s/he gave humans a sense of humor to help us get through times like these.