NORTH CAROLINA: Roy Cooper’s Lead Surpasses 10K Vote Threshold That Would Block Statewide Recount

The Associated Press reports:

Roy Cooper’s unofficial lead over North Carolina Republican Gov. Pat McCrory has surpassed a key threshold that would block McCrory’s request for a statewide recount if its holds. The Democratic attorney general was ahead of McCrory by more than 10,250 votes as of Wednesday afternoon. His advantage has doubled since election night and grew Wednesday as Wake and Forsyth counties completed their canvass and other counties updated voting tabulations. Six counties haven’t finished their canvass.

McCrory’s request for a statewide recount would be granted if the margin is 10,000 votes or less after all 100 counties complete their work. North Carolina law does allow the state board to order recounts on its own. Cooper’s campaign cited the updated margin in once again calling on McCrory to concede. McCrory told The Associated Press on Wednesday in Greenville that he’s in what might be the state’s closest gubernatorial election ever. He says he’s “going to respect the process and respect the results” and expects others to do the same.

He says the process could include recounting more than 90,000 Durham County ballots. The State Board of Elections takes up later Wednesday a hand-recount requested by a Republican attorney. The Durham elections board already rejected that request, but McCrory’s campaign emailed supporters urging them to contact the board and say they want the recount.

The editorial board of the Charlotte Observer ripped into McCrory yesterday:

Pat McCrory, it appears, is going through the five stages of grief. First came denial, then anger. Right now he’s in the bargaining stage. That, thankfully, means that depression and finally acceptance should not be far behind.

Such a cycle may be normal, but what the governor has done since the Nov. 8 election is anything but. In a razor-close race, he has gone way beyond asking that every vote be counted before a winner is declared. He and his fellow scaremongers have disrespected democracy and honest election workers of both parties while slandering innocent North Carolina citizens by recklessly accusing them of felonies. In doing so, he has further tarnished his already-stained legacy and will be remembered always for the lack of grace he showed in what may be his final election.

His behavior is so incomprehensible – he fights in the face of virtually certain defeat – that it suggests there is an alternative goal. Like President-elect Donald Trump’s, McCrory’s creation of phantom election cheats tills the ground for future voter suppression efforts. Flimsy though the allegations are, they are all legislative leaders would need in their efforts to justify politically motivated restrictions.

  • Xiao Ai

    Braised Jeebus.

  • ultragreen

    O/T: Jill Stein has filed the request for a recount in Michigan.

    Also, a Trump staff official in Michigan has been convicted of 10 counts of felony election fraud (involving an earlier election).

  • JellyDonut

    Suck it Pat!!

  • Rebecca Gardner

    Pat McCrory’s response.

  • LovesIrony

    hb2 done undid you pat

  • Moebym of the Rebel Alliance

    McCrory’s forced concession will be music to these ears that have been longing for good news for weeks.

  • HZ81

    Sorry, Pat. Oh, wait. No, go fuck yourself, Pat. There. That feels right.

  • AtticusP
    • Robincho

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      • AtticusP

        Yeah, I know: it also has capitalization and other punctuation issues in addition to the apostrophe. .

        I, too, was born with a red pen in my hand.

        My mother still hasn’t forgiven me…

        • Robincho

          But I have… 😉

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  • Brian

    I’m good with this. On the other hand, I would have preferred a headline telling me that McCroy’s face caught fire as a demon spawned to drag him to Hell … but I don’t need those kind of neighbors.

  • Dramphooey

    This is wonderful because it is outright anti LGBT bigotry that sunk him. There can be no denying it.

    • yup. remind every politician and straight voter you know and speak with of this fact, regularly. we are now a Secret Weapon that can even overcome election trends in the south. such is our Power, for real.

  • LovesIrony

    Pat pack your fucking sheet and hood, you’ve been evicted

  • bkmn

    I fully expect good old Pat will fling feces as security forcibly removes him from the governor’s mansion.

    • Brian

      I hope they drag him out by the feet, his face bouncing off every f’ing step on the way out.

    • AtticusP

      That should be monumental! Judging by the looks on his face in photographs, I don’t think Pat McCrory has had a bowel movement since the Nixon administration.

    • dcurlee

      Hell Trump will give him a spot …. sorry meant Heil Trump

  • Bill Post

    Shorter McCory: Did I say 10,000? I meant 100,000.

  • John Ruff

    Ha ha ha ha! The first incumbent NC governor to lose a reelection.

  • Skokieguy [Larry]

    Pat, I’m sure you totally support the multi-state recount efforts by Jill Stein? Why don’t you publicly come out and endorse her efforts, because you’re all for accuracy in elections.

  • another_steve

    What??? Good news???

    Can our gay hearts take it?

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    Ha-ha, McCocky!
    Suck it up, buttercup!
    Ya’ lost!

    • Octavio

      Let er rip, potato chip.
      Ya burnt.

  • j.martindale

    To add wonderful insult to the injury, the federal courts have demanded that NC redistrict the horrifyingly gerrymandered congressional districts in the state by March so that there can be a new map to be applied before the next election. And Dawg Gam! If we have a Dem Governor and Attorney General able to veto and prosecute as necessary, North Carolina may return to the glory of is earlier years. I swear, after the last month, I really need help out of this depression. Medication may be necessary. This is a mini step in the right direction.

    • Joe in PA

      I thought that was SC, but I’m good with NC as well! 🙂

      • Phil2u

        N. C. has 7 months to redraw the districts. It is heartening to read in the paper this morning.

    • Mark
      • without gerrymandering, there is no republican party except in a handful of places. look at a map of the south these days. there are lots and lots of non-whites living there, all over the place. certainly enough to turn “solid red” districts into something at least a bit more purple. POC are returning to the south, also, as well as immigrating there. without gerrymandering, the republicans would have a much harder time winning at a lot of levels.

        i know they must’ve resorted to stronger forms of cheating to ‘win’ in the northern states this year. sorry, but i’m not buying all the recent results, including some of the ones before 2016. people have been like sheep on the reality of republican vote/election cheating until now. i’m so glad they are finally waking up. but the truth is without friendly courts who look the other way to blatantly racist gerrymandering, republicans would rarely win, anywhere.

        the whole concept is undemocratic and unscientific and needs to be abolished. science can show us simple, fair, mathematically sound ways to draw districts, and they only need to be updated once every ten years. by an *impartial* non-elected group, not the people whose jobs depend on a certain shape of district. foxes don’t get to design henhouses, pols shouldn’t be able to design the people’s houses either.

        • The_Wretched

          The SCOTUS has said gerrymandering is ok. It’s up there with HL and citizenunited and heller and gutting the voting rights act…i give up. The law has a rotten core of late.

        • IamM

          Yeah. There were more votes cast for Democrats than Republicans during the midterms but thanks to the magic of gerrymandering Republican house.

  • Jmdintpa

    the lord works in mysterious ways…. HA HA

    • Dazzer

      Yeah, if only McCrory had prayed more. Guess this all goes to show that God loves Cooper more than He loves McCrory.

      Someone really ought to tweet that at him to see if his head explodes.

      Like Kirk Cameron explodes if anyone points out that God must love Leo diCaprio more than he loves him – and has done ever since they were child stars together.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        I now want to see Kirk Cameron mauled by a bear.

  • dcurlee

    McCrory please let me show you the fucking door

    • Ross

      You are WAY too polite.

      Here is how I feel:

      McCrory please let me kick your sorry ass out the fucking door.

  • Paul

    Considering the GOP still has supermajorities in the state legislature, isn’t Cooper nothing more than just a glorified figurehead?

    I mean, it’s great to see Prejudiced Pat go down in defeat, but I’m also trying to be realistic. They can just override Cooper’s vetoes.

    • Octavio

      It depends. Are you a glass half empty or half full kind of guy?

      • Mark

        When I pour – it’s half full. After the first sip, it’s half empty. i like to see all sides…. 🙂

        • chrisinphx

          As hard as I try to be a glass half full type of person it always ends up busted on the floor.

  • billbear1961
    • ericxdc

      YEAH! I knew you’d come through with just the right classical touch. Thanks, Bill!

      • billbear1961

        You’re very kind, Eric!

        And, you’re welcome!


        • Dazzer

          He’s also exactly correct 🙂

          • billbear1961


  • ByronK

    In light of this victory and in the Christmas spirit, I offer you this musical celebration…LOL

    • AtticusP

      I tried. I really tried. But, just as they started to tell it on the mountain, Phineas (my cat) coughed up a hairball. And I’m still not convinced that this video didn’t have something to do with it.

      • ByronK

        It made me cough up a hairball. Thought people could do with a smile – see, it can always be worse.

        • JW Swift

          Yeah, for example, Trump could win and become Presi… Oh, wait…

    • That_Looks_Delicious


    • Joe in PA

      I can’t tell you how much I HATE YOU! Dang.

      (but I have that sweater) 🙁

      • ByronK

        Awww, now Joe, how could you possibly hate me? I’m Canadian. 😉

        • Joe in PA

          But aren’t you “Canadians” supposed to say “sorry” first?


          • ByronK

            Crap, I forgot. Or maybe I’m forging my own path into a brave new world – I am an alt-Canuck!! lol

          • Joe in PA

            “Post Canuck”? 😉 lol

    • Joe in PA
      • Xiao Ai

        How’d you slow the clip down to find that hidden gem?

        • Snarkaholic

          Is she also blinking ‘S.O.S.’ in Morse Code?

    • Chucktech

      Sweet dead jesus…

    • Bob Conti

      It’s just painful. But in it’s honor, I provide an oldie from Stacey’s Country Jamboree, which appeared during the 70’s and 80’s on WVII-TV in Bangor, Maine. Presented by Dick Stacey, owner of a Chevron station in neighboring Brewer, ME who then went on to buy the motel across the street from the gas station. But I digress. Here’s Jennie Shontell, a regular (along with drunken frat boys from the University of Maine at Orono) on the program with her one song…

      • ByronK

        Thank you for sharing! That was…uh…stunning.

      • Dazzer

        Ummmmm… just ummm really.

      • Acronym Jim

        Ironically, for me, that video loaded with a default of disabled sound.

        • Dazzer

          Damn. Some people have all the luck.

      • MB
        • Robincho

          “Hey there, Santa, you’re looking fabulous this year! And is that a new sleigh? That is totally the coolest sleigh EVER!”

          — Rudolph the Brown-Nosed Reindeer

        • David Walker

          Unfortunately, I know all about the top photo. I won’t say this is where I grew up, but it doesn’t seem at all foreign to me:

        • JCF

          Don’t laugh, we decorate the deer. 😉 [A little more tastefully than shown. Just some bird ornaments on the antlers. Sort of a “Thidwick” thing.]

      • David Walker

        One of things I remember reading about Cosmo Moon, Florence Foster Jenkins’ accompanist, was that he could follow her seamlessly into whatever key she wandered and, as the lovely Ms. Shontell does with such aplomb, however many beats she put into or took out of a measure.

        • Bob Conti

          I think beats per measure were merely suggestions. As was key signature.

          • David Walker

            Absolutely. I do find the ability to follow vocal wanderings to be amazing. When I directed, I found it was pretty easy to alert the singers and/or orchestra to get to the next measure (soloists get nervous), but to change key…I would be at a loss. Do you really want to stop a performance because the soloist fucked up and no one knows where s/he is? Recording is one thing, but live performance is unforgiving and definitely makes you think on your feet, hands in mid-air.

    • olandp

      It is so generous of them to share the joy that Jeebus brings to their lives!

      • ByronK

        Lol, it does need to be spread for all…

      • The Return of Traxley

        Their joy is CONTAGIOUS!

        Like herpes.

    • bzrd

      are they alive ?

      • ByronK

        Now, or during the video? 😉

      • Dazzer

        This is what happens to the androids that don’t make it into Westworld.

    • MB

      Hayull, some o’ Liberal Redneckks kinfolk cain’t neeven saing.

      Here’s Paw an’ Billy-Bob an’ Jim-bob in the hee-haw Christmas Pahrayde.

      • Snarkaholic

        Is that their blow-up sex doll lashed to the front grill?

    • The Return of Traxley

      For those of you who didn’t grow up in a batshit insane Christian Reformed area, you missed out on Little Marcy.

      She was HUGE in the late 50s and early 60s, but lived on for decades after, as demons are known to do.

      I learned of her when I found Little Marcy LPs being donated. They’re a regular thing, like Herb Alpert and Jim Nabors. I have a few. The cover art is high midcentury camp.

      Please adjust your volume settings accordingly. Enjoy.

    • agcons

      I know just the very mountain upon which they can go tell it.

    • TuuxKabin

      That upset the neighbor’s dog. We’re pooch sitting.

  • Octavio

    Regarding those five stages of grief. It is my personal wish that he stop at depression and remain there as long as possible.

  • Ross

    The ONE ray of light in a very dark storm which erupted on 11/8.

    A day which will live in infamy.

    • The Return of Traxley

      Hopefully, there will be future generations to remember it.

  • Lazycrockett

    OT Hillary has passed 65 million votes. Besting Drumpf by 2.42 Million. Still with 3.5 million uncounted.

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      It is a small comfort to know that most Americans who voted did not vote for Trumpence.

    • billbear1961

      Hillary Rodham Clinton, the PEOPLE’S choice, the TRUE President-ELECT!!

    • Sam_Handwich

      i guess it’s likely that she gets another one million… her more votes than anyone who’s ever run for president

      • billbear1961

        I’ve read some suspect she may reach 3 million, yes.

        I hope very much that she does–then, the would-be dictator, the Predator-in-chief, will be Mr. Three-Million-Short!

        The degenerate beast has NO MANDATE!!

      • Randy Left Brooklyn

        Barack Obama got 69.5 million votes in 2008.

    • Moebym of the Rebel Alliance

      And she still lost. Hahahahaha…ha…fuck.

      • billbear1961

        She may lose, but Trump may yet fail to INFEST the White House IF the electors do their goddamned JOBS–one of the main reasons the Founders established the body–and vote to keep a dangerously unfit demagogue OUT of the Oval Office!

        • Moebym of the Rebel Alliance

          Took the words right out of my mouth. If they don’t do their jobs, I’ll make it my mission to get rid of this archaic institution of this country’s slave-holding past.

        • Rambie

          As much as I’d like to see it, I fear that they won’t do it as we’ll be stuck with Trump.

  • TrollopeReader

    as I wondered this morning …. if McBigot is so sure there is fraud, how the heck did Trump win by 175,000 votes (and McBigot loses by just over 10,000)?

  • rednekokie

    One at a time, we’ll get rid of the bastards.
    People who have no care for other people should be shot out of the saddle.

  • Canadian Observer

    Wonder if he is getting more invitations to social functions or if he and his wife are still being snubbed?
    [ETA: burnings at the stake and igniting crosses don’t count]

    • TrollopeReader

      I’m hoping they’re still being shunned. All dressed for the holidays, and no where to go ….

      • Paula

        They’ll still welcome him at church. That’s about it.

        • TrollopeReader

          but they won’t play footsie with him in the pew anymore …

    • Bob Conti

      I think there’s a saying about hoisted upon one’s own petard that kinda applies to this douche of a person.

    • The Return of Traxley

      He’s become a pariah, an untouchable, poisonous.

      And those are the nicest things people say about him.

  • Sydney

    Thank you.
    This is my one glimmer of hope.

  • Mark

    Isn’t this the moment when he drinks the poison to join his lover in death eternal?

  • Robert Conner

    I’m sure there’s a high-paying job for him somewhere in the Trump administration. Probably in the civil rights division of the DoJ.

    • olandp

      I was think Clarence Thomas’ old job running the EEOC.

  • Richard B

    Ha ha !
    The lesson learned- This is what Pat McCrory got for revealing his inner bigot.
    Had the soon to be former governor not rushed through and signed the antigay HB2 and brought on a stinging national boycott of North Carolina, McCrory would have likely been re-elected.

  • Sydney

    Hit the road Pat, and don’t cha come back
    No more no more no more no more . . .

  • ericxdc
    • billbear1961
      • Dazzer

        Thank you for that, Bill. It was beauiful as ever.

        I don’t know if you realise this, but one of the consequences of you posting such gorgeous music is that because I’m a good five hours ahead of you, a lot of the time I’m listening to your music before I go to bed. (It’s 12.45am here at the moment.)

        If you have unsolicited testimonials on your resume, please add mine:

        “I can confirm that billbear1961 has always sent me to bed happy.”

        • billbear1961



        • Robincho

          billbear has always sent you to bed happy. And don’t forget his music, either… 😉

  • justme

    Wish La would learn from their Jindal experience

    • TrollopeReader

      and KS. and MI. and WI …

      • justme

        but La would put little Mitchie at only 2 votes over not 3 .. One could probably peel them off and make the turtle squirm.. Also that puts the filibuster breaker vote 1 more away from him.

        Come on turtleman squirm

  • Ninja0980

    Time to get the fuck out McCrory.

  • Baltimatt

    Durham County will recount.

    The State Board of Elections voted 3-2 along party lines Wednesday to order a machine recount of 90,000 votes in Durham County, backing a request from Republicans and Gov. Pat McCrory’s campaign.

    The three Republicans on the board voted for the recount, saying that the late addition of the 90,000 votes to the statewide tally on election night constituted an “irregularity.” The two Democrats on the board opposed the recount, arguing that no evidence suggested any mistakes in counting Durham votes.

    “What harm would it do to scan these votes and count them?” said board member James Baker, a Republican. “It’s not likely to change anything. There was enough of an irregularity to make people wonder.”

    Read more here:

    • billbear1961

      Damn it.

    • imho, machines should not be allowed to do the recounts. ever. if they really thought he’d won, they’d ask for, and pay for (they can afford it) the old fashion kind. it’s telling they chose a county that is doing it with machines.

  • ericxdc

    I’ve been so starved for ANY good news that I think I’ll just quit for the night while I’m ahead. But, one last “HA HA” game over post, though from Cooper’s attorney…

    In North Carolina, Gov-Elect Roy Cooper's lead is now over 10,000. 10,329 to be precise. As a result, there will be no recount. Game over.— Marc E. Elias (@marceelias) November 30, 2016

  • kaydenpat

    Good! Hopefully he’ll get right into repealing the silly bathroom law. Bye McBigotry.

  • KnownDonorDad

    Again: McCrory lost in a state CARRIED BY TRUMP. There were thousands of Trump voters that looked at him and said, nah, I’ll go with the Democrat. It’s such a grasp that the alternative motive in the final paragraph seems plausible. At least it leaves us with one less anti-LGBT pol in office.

  • John B.

    So how on earth did this state go for Trump, especially when virtually all polls showed (narrowly, but consistently) Clinton in the lead?

  • I supported this recount as well as the one in Wisconsin. We should have as accurate accounting of the votes cast as possible. If that favors Republicans, so be it. And look elsewhere on this site, the voter fraud seems to be mostly (all?) by Republicans. Rigged, indeed.

  • JCF
  • I’m sorry, but they keep counting and Cooper’s lead keeps getting bigger, and McCrory can’t do anything but kick and scream, and I can’t help but laugh.

    Does that make me a bad person?

  • chris james

    I understand there is an animal control position open in Raleigh. McCrory should apply so at least he wouldn’t have to leave town. But come to think of it, they would probably like to see him gone from the state.

  • John P.

    Boo Hoo Hoo, the wicked old witch is dead.

  • Marti386

    Since Trump won the election, I’ve seen a smattering of sad-sack LGB people, popping up here and there on forums, trying to make the claim that the LGBT’s inclusion of trans restroom issues are what lost Hillary the election. Funny how I don’t see a single one of them here. Could it be because McCrory’s defeat proves them wrong?

  • Bill T.

    It’s a miracle!