Barney Frank: Actually, Antonin Scalia Was The Leading Advocate Of “Fag Burning,” Not Flag Burning [VIDEO]

Via Raw Story:

Former congressman Barney Frank Monday shocked his fellow MSNBC panel members, quipping that the late Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia “was actually the leading advocate of fag burning, not flag burning.” Discussing Donald Trump’s penchant for late-night tweetstorms, Frank warned Chris Matthews against “underestimating this man’s shrewd tactical sense.”

“Scalia wrote the opinion, he was very strongly on the other side of [flag burning], and he cited Scalia as his favorite justice. I think there was a pronunciation problem there. You know, Scalia was actually the leading advocate of fag burning, not flag burning.”

“That’s not funny,” Chris Matthews said, laughing. Scalia once said if he were king, he “would not allow people to go around burning the American flag.”

  • Robincho

    Let’s see some more of Barney’s hot husband!…

    • Gerry Fisher

      Always a welcome sight.

  • Ninja0980

    Indeed he was, and it sickens me that he will be replaced by someone as equally vile because he didn’t have the decency to die earlier when we had a chance to replace him.

    • Guess?

      Actually, he died in plenty of time to be replaced but the fucking republicans refused.

      • fuow

        And we, as usual, let them get away with it.

  • Kruhn

    Oh Barney! You and your twists of the spoken word. We need you back in Congress. Run for Senate, sir! You’ll do fine along with Warren!

    • canoebum

      That other seat is held by Ed Markey, a Democrat and an ally. Now, Barney for President, that I could get with!

      • Kruhn

        I know, but Markey is also old, so, could happen.

        • canoebum

          Senator Markey is 70. The average age of Senators in the 114th Congress is 61. 23 members of the current Senate are older. 8 are 80 or older.

  • Steve

    Because to scalia symbols are more important than human life.

    • that’s very true. Scalia himself observed that executing a clearly innocent human being did not bother him if ‘the process’ was correct.

    • tobeclear

      To be clear, Scalia sided with the majority in ruling that flag-burning is protected by the First Amendment. The case was Texas v. Johnson. It was Hillary Clinton who sponsored an unconstitutional statute to make flag-burning illegal.

  • blackstar
  • Gigi

    O/T: Who’s the hottie in the box above Barney?

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      Eli Stokols- Politco

      • Gigi

        I knew you’d know. 😉

  • June Gordon

    Bravo, Barney! Scalia was a horrible con artist, the MOST activist Judge we’ve ever had on the Supreme Court. The Right worships him, but I wish the Left would stop legitimizing him.

    • Ribb Rotgut

      How does the left legitimize him?

      And “activist” judge is completely meaningless. It just means a judge you disagree with.

      • June Gordon

        Sometimes, but not always. A judge is an “activist” when he oversteps his office and the law to further a personal agenda. There is nothing more activist a Supreme Court Justice can do than overturn a law by Congress. Scalia was more likely to do that than any of the other so-called “Activist” judges on the Court.

      • Goodboy

        “Activist judge : A judge or justice who makes rulings based on personal views or considerations rather than on the law, or who issues rulings intended to have political effects.”

        I don’t know any other Supreme who could define that better then Scalia.

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      • CottonBlimp

        By “the left”, I assume June means the media, like Chris Matthews here, rather than the activist left, who are respectably more concerned about human rights and standing up against injustice than being politically correct towards right-wing shitheads.

        And no, “activist judge” has a clear definition, and Scalia fits it. Where in the hell did the Constitution say anything about flag burning? Where in the hell does it say that we need to pass laws to enforce Catholic dogma?

        • Ribb Rotgut

          For the record, Scalia voted in favor of allowing burning the flag as protected free speech.

  • Leo

    It’s not meant to be funny Chris. Scalia would do that if he could. Telling it like it is, Barney Frank. Miss him.

  • jm2

    yes, Chris, it WAS funny! it was funny in a non-humorous way. it was funny because Barney has felt the sting of Scalia’s ‘pronouncements’ over the years. it was funny because it has to be said as a warning, a shot across the bow. it was funny because those of us who know agree with Barney. it was funny because when it starts in one place or with one group it is easy to include others also…

    • William

      “Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings.”
      Heinrich Heine 1821

      • Derrick Johns

        They did it before 1821. There was a PBS documentary a few years ago. It was about the Catholic Church trying to get rid of women leaders of villages throughout what became Western Europe. They burned the women accusing them of witchcraft..

        • Librarykid

          They burned the Talmud in Europe before the Inquisition burned Jews in Autos da Fe. God inspires such loving actions among the faithful.

          • Derrick Johns

            Thanks, Librarykid. I like to learn from the blogs

            .
            Autos da Fe. I googled the phrase. We’ve got folks who are capable of such behavior today. LOL Hell, we’ve got one coming into the White House in a few weeks.

          • Librarykid

            And a bigger one moving into the Vice President’s mansion.

    • Nic Peterson

      C’mon! It’s not like he called Mexicans rapists or anything that would totally fly under the MSM radar.

  • Puckfair52

    Gallows Humor Chris Gallows Humor

  • GayOldLady

    Matthews said “that’s not funny”, but coming from Barney Frank, it is funny to hear him say it on National TV because it’s so damn true. Scalia was a flaming homophobe and no one should ever be allowed to forget that. Way to go Barney.

    • Librarykid

      I hope that he is still flaming and will be for all eternity, God forbid.

  • Jerry Kott

    I use to be a fan of Mathews and his show and now believe he is a fraud asshole. The way he would blush when Trump would call in was sickening. I stopped watching his show before the election. He is no longer a reliable source of anything other than his self promotion. However, it appears that fag jokes still get that primal nervous laugh. Hate still get measured by the Heterosexual male litmus test.

    • Gay Fordham Prep Grad

      Matthews cuts his guests off in mid sentence; if you are not going to let them finish their point, why have them on? I assume anyone on his show is there for crass self promotion or is paid by MSNBC.

      • Jerry Kott

        When I had respect for him, I was sadden to read him being described as a “bombastic ass”. Now I could not agree more.
        I believe in the Gay Universe, Barney isn’t given the credit he deserves. I am old, I still remember the battle field and how Frank gave many of us HOPE in a Hopeless World.

  • zhera

    Not funny, because it’s true. I notice that they were all laughing except Barney Frank.

    • Librarykid

      It was nervous laughter as they shit their pants in the face of the stark truth. I’m sure they were all recalling anti-gay incidents in which they participated.

  • Gerry Fisher

    …says a leading advocate of keeping the Democratic party center-right. But he’s witty. Given all his on-record statements during the campaign, I’d be interested in his suggestions for “where do we (Democrats) go from here.”

  • NancyP

    Go Barney!
    What do you mean about lefties “legitimating” Scalia? One can’t help but acknowledge the fact that he was on the SCOTUS. So was Chief Justice Roger Taney, of the Dred Scott decision, in which he famously characterized blacks “as beings of an inferior order, and altogether unfit to associate with
    the white race, either in social or political relations; and so far
    inferior, that they had no rights which the white man was bound to
    respect; and that the negro might justly and lawfully be reduced to
    slavery for his benefit.” Being on the SCOTUS bench is no sign of respectability, in 1857 or in 2015.

  • bkmn

    Long overdue for straight talk, ironic it had to come from Barney Frank.

    • DenCo

      He needs his own talk show or podcast.

  • TheManicMechanic

    In happier news, Scalia is still rotting away.

  • David Walker

    OT. Is that bridge in Boston? In many ways I feel like I’m in cyber school. I’ve never stopped learning things…curiosity tends to get the better of me…but there’s so much I don’t know, such as the location of that beautiful bridge.

    • madknits

      The Leonard Zakim / Bunker Hill Bridge. We just call it the Zakim Bridge, since Charlestown has their damn Bunker Hill Monument. It is part of the Big Dig. You come up out of the ground and are on this gorgeous bridge, usually lit up with blue lights. It is very short, and you are only on it for a few seconds. It’s one of the things I miss most about Boston.

      • Robincho

        “Love that dirty water…”

        • madknits

          Not so dirty any more! One could actually swim in it now!

      • David Walker

        Thank you, madknits. Again…I blame YouTube University for a fascination with bridge design. I watched a doc on the world’s longest bridge/ tunnel…built/dug between Denmark and Sweden. The Oresund Bridge is much longer, but the suspension design looks like that.

        • madknits

          i hope you make it to Boston some time to see it. While one traverses it for a very short time (it isn’t a large bridge, but it is very beautiful), it is so cool to look up at it overhead. Please do this as a passenger. 😉

          • David Walker

            Last time I was there was 1970, driving back Portsmouth, NH on 1. I had crossed to get onto the Mass Pike, but I wanted to see Boston again. This has to be a traffic relief. I got lost in Boston just about every time I visited, so at least this must keep some of the out-of-towners out of town.

          • madknits

            The so called inner belt is now underground. It was the largest infrastructure project of its type, going overbudget by several billions of dollars. However, it did not relieve traffic on the highway through Boston as much as anticipated and things still come to a standstill, only now underground. And there have been some problems with construction, leaks, and so on. But the bridge is pretty.

    • Palmer
      • David Walker

        Thank you, Palmer. The first paragraph makes my head spin. But it’s also fascinating. I appreciate your sharing that.

        • Palmer

          You’re welcome.

    • ChrisMorley

      The tallest bridge in the world, the Millau Viaduct, France is stupendous. It looks best when floating above the clouds filling the valley.
      Millau Viaduct is designed by French structural engineer Michel Virlogeux and British architect Norman Foster. Spectacular photos and details http://www.fosterandpartners.com/projects/millau-viaduct/

      • David Walker

        While watching your YouTube link, I noticed there are two documentaries on it…probably “the making of” documentaries. I’m lovin’ it.
        And “viaduct” ALWAYS reminds me of Groucho and Chico:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3hjo7V7TPs

  • Leo

    I think he even made Chris Matthews blush.

  • Jack

    Scalia and Ginsburg both expressed personal distaste for flag burning. But it’s offensive speech that is in need of protecting.

    The antithesis of trump.

    • andrew

      I think that many if not most Americans, including me, think that burning of the American flag is offensive, but that doesn’t mean that it should be criminalized.

      • Jack

        I think you’re right. I’m not big on flag decals on back pockets of jeans, either.

      • Gianni

        I agree. It is offensive and infuriating to see. Free speech very often produces those feelings in others. Thankfully, the law and the Constitution recognize that one’s feelings of offense and anger do not make that “speech” a crime.

  • Ron

    Oh Barney thank you I needed that!

  • Gianni

    Classic! 🙂

  • ECarpenter

    The U.S.A. is way too complex, with way too long and mixed a history, to represent with one symbol. The flag means many things to many people, so there’s no use pretending that your particular take on it is the only “patriotic” one.

    Way too many people who get all protective about the flag are much less protective of the Constitution. In countless studies (it’s a favorite for sophomore anthropology classes) a huge percentage of the general public thinks the Constitution is a radical and deeply suspect document, if they’re asked to read parts of it without knowing what they’re from. I find THAT offensive, since all of our law is built on the Constitution.

    Do what you want with the flag, it doesn’t shelter us from abusive government intrusions or protect us from our fellow citizens when they get hateful. If you are all rah-rah about the flag but don’t own a copy of the Constitution, or haven’t read it since high school (if at all) you should be ashamed of yourself.