Trump: Jill Stein’s “Ridiculous Recount” Is Just A Scam For The Green Party To “Fill Their Coffers With Money”

“The people have spoken and the election is over, and as Hillary Clinton herself said on election night, in addition to her conceding by congratulating me, ‘We must accept this result and then look to the future.’ It is important to point out that with the help of millions of voters across the country, we won 306 electoral votes on Election Day – the most of any Republican since 1988 — and we carried nine of 13 battleground states, 30 of 50 states, and more than 2,600 counties nationwide – the most since President Ronald Reagan in 1984.

“This recount is just a way for Jill Stein, who received less than one percent of the vote overall and wasn’t even on the ballot in many states, to fill her coffers with money, most of which she will never even spend on this ridiculous recount. All three states were won by large numbers of voters, especially Pennsylvania, which was won by more than 70,000 votes. This is a scam by the Green Party for an election that has already been conceded, and the results of this election should be respected instead of being challenged and abused, which is exactly what Jill Stein is doing.” – Donald Trump, via press release.

  • Do Something Nice

    Nice try Mr. Not My President.

  • Lazycrockett

    Yet you are behind over 2 million in the popular vote. So Fuck Off.

    • Moebym of the Rebel Alliance

      2.5, maybe even 3 million when it’s all over.

      No, I’ll never get over it.

      • David L. Caster

        I think Lazy was talking to Trump.

    • MonochromeMouse

      the people have spoken, they wanted President Hillary Clinton or at least to prevent Generalissimo Trump

      • Kay

        If Hillary had won the electoral votes, but not the popular election, would you be opining about the “will of the voters”, and how “the people have spoken”, and Trump should be the president?

        • MonochromeMouse

          I would still be against the electoral college, but I would never support making Trump a president no matter what. Fascists like him, and his supporters, have NO place in America.

          • Stephen Elliot Phillips

            Block it. Youll feel better. It comes on here to spew smug false and half truths.

          • Kay

            So you call for purging 62 million people from the country, yet we’re the fascists.

          • MonochromeMouse

            No, but I do support heavily fining anyone caught promoting fascism/racism/Nazism and arresting them if they continue like the Germans do. I would also support socially shunning them, refusing them service of any kind, up to and including medical care, until they rebuke and denounce fascism.

          • Kay

            I take it you don’t support the first amendment, then?

            Hate speech is supposed to be the most protected speech, because popular “acceptable” speech needs little protection. Fining them is taxing the exercise of that right.

          • MonochromeMouse

            I do not support unbridled free speech, no. I support free speech laws like the UK, Canada, and pretty much every other first world country except America has.

          • Kay

            Fair enough. You’re welcome to push to amend the constitution.

            Speech is either free, or it is not. If someone gets to decide what “hate” is, then it’s not.

  • bkmn

    Nov. 26, 2016 – Trump was right.

    • Tiger Quinn

      About what?

      • Lawerence Collins

        The election being rigged. He. Did it.

        • Tiger Quinn

          Ah.

  • Lawerence Collins

    Trump admitted the election was rigged. Let’s find out.

    • Nausea

      Putin’s Poodle has said all along that the election was rigged. I guess we should believe him on that issue…

      • Philly Mike

        “Putin’s Poodle” LOVE IT, USING IT!

        • J Ascher

          “No poodle. No poodle. You’re the poodle!”

          • Joe in PA

            Karen Walker, is that you?

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      • bzrd

        the con-all has continually said, ” believe me ! ” we believe you golden kaka, the voting was rigged

      • Jeffrey

        OH lets make that’s trend #PutinsPoodle

        • saucetin

          He is SUCH a #BichonFrisée aka (lit.) “frizzy little bitch.”

          • Dazzer

            Bichon Frizees are intelligent, manipulating little dogs. (I love them). I wouldn’t insult an entire species of dog by comparing them to Trump.

            My mongrel dog is a bitch. Trump is a bitch. My dog would be grievously insulted were she compared to Trump. Just sayin…

          • Robincho

            Is she the famous one who farts?…I

          • Dazzer

            Yeah 🙂

            My dog is a totally mongrel rescue dog who had a vile upbringing. Really vile.

            She loves the fact that in her later days she’s allowed to sleep inside the house and even on my bed. And when she farts, I don’t hit her or anything. I might shout at her, but she’s old and it’s OK.

            Before she came to me, every time she farted she was hit by her owners.

            These days, when she lets one off, I just say: ‘Oh Daisy, you really stink” and she just looks at me a little bit shamefaced.

            Luv my dog.

            She’s really old. But she’s here to die with me as someone who loves her. A dog fart means nothing.

          • Robincho

            “Daisy, Daisy,
            Give me your answer, do…
            I’m half-crazy
            All for the love of you!
            It won’t be a stylish marriage
            (I can’t afford a carriage),
            But you’ll look sweet
            Upon the seat
            Of a bicycle built for two!”

            — Late 19th-century North American ditty
            __________________________________

            How lucky that her former swinish owners are now out of the picture. I fancy you pushing her pram about The Serpentine of a pleasant Saturday morning! I love that you love her, and be assured that the reverse is also true…

          • saucetin

            Glad you’ve given them a home. That’s wicked important.

          • saucetin

            Since you know them well, what poodle breed’s the best match for trump? Manipulating (and he’s skilled at it, esp. where the press is concerned) seems like a match. Most interested in a match re his fantastically unfortunate hairstyle

      • Dazzer

        It’s a pity you don’t have a snack much beloved in the UK by students called Pot Noodle.

        ‘Putin’s Pot Noodle’ would work because it’s mostly artificial, frequently an unnatural shade of orange and made up from completely empty calories.

    • glass

      Every nasty thing president chump accused others of doing, HE was actually doing.

      • Kay

        Trump wasn’t in a position to rig the polls. Unlike Hillary, he didn’t control the party to any reasonable degree.

        Obama has said in the past that the polls were rigged, and that people in power tend to try to rig things in their favour. He stated that it really helped the dems when they controlled the voting machines.

        Why shouldn’t we believe him when he says that voter fraud is an issue?

      • B Snow

        I’m starting to think every wacky right-wing conspiracy theory is also true, but in their favor. poisoned water, rigged elections, FBI having their own agenda….

    • As we move forward the following should happen:

      1. Make a constitutional change for the requirements of the President; I mean seriously it is more difficult to be a school custodian than President of the USA

      2. Make EVERY state have mail in ballots as it is essential with an aging population as well as a population that is spread out; can not afford to take off work in addition to revitalizing the USPS system.

      3. Stop the electoral college as so to make EVERY vote count with EQUAL weight from Rhode Island to California; therefore increasing voter turnout nationwide.

      • bzrd

        you are correct, WebSlinger

        mail in ballots for everyone is a must, plus paper trail

        voters in California get the short end of the stick, electoral college must go

        the con-all is a very sick man mentally but the MSM gave him a pass from day one

          • Dazzer

            One of the oddest things about this election is that the coverage of Trump has been so based on short-termism.

            By opting for bean-counter objectives of click-bait, the publishers (the management positions rather than the owners of publications) have signed their own death certificates.

            It’s an incredibly short-termed policy based on getting returns to share-holders quickly, rather than providing a blue-star stock option that’ll keep on providing returns (albeit at a lower level) for decades rather than just higher yields for years.

            Opting for click-bait undermines brand loyalty. It also undermines sensible economic policies. Income from stuff advertised on the net is significantly lower than stuff advertised on paper in a newspaper.

            Everything about click-bait journalism is fast returns rather than an entrenched income stream.

          • Ernest Endevor

            Also, traditional press like The New York Times has been completely unable to deal with him. I mean the press room, some of the op ed writers have been very good. The same happened with the run-up to the invasion of Iraq: the NYT could not begin to cope with the barrage of propaganda. To their shame they operated for a while as a mere propaganda outlet. The same was true of the Washington Post, but this time around their reporting has been much better – at least as far as Trump was concerned. They were still clueless about the ‘scandals’ surrounding Clinton.

          • Dazzer

            I don’t know about the Washington Post, but I can comfortably say that I’d never trust the NYT.

            Its CEO is a Brit called Mark Thompson. He used to be head of the BBC.

            Thompson is a rabid Catholic. Every time the LGBT community in the UK pushed against the BBC for failing to represent its tax-payers, Thompson’s response was always that religious views had t be takin into account.

            Thompson’s direction of the BBC being ;impartial; in law was always that he gave more weight to Conservatives because they were the ones under attack, rather than any obvious murderous, physical, obvious attack on a minority.

            Before Thompson became CEO, there were well established agreements between ‘left leaning; publications in the West.

            French, German, Australian, Spanish, American and British newspapers pooled resources to be able to spread stories on an international basis.

            Whereas most of those countries’ left/liberal leaning publications in the rest of the world have been treating the Stein Recount as a major piece of international news and asking their own reporters to look for evidence that might back up the idea, the NYT has been gently pooh-poohing the idea that any corruption might exist.

            I used to read the NYT all the time. And when it went behind a paywall, I paid to read things.

            But since Thompson took over, I’ve refused to put a penny of my income towards it.

            Thompson will witter on looking caring and intelligent – but once you look at his past actions, he’s vehemently against us minorities having a voice.

            OK, this is a long diatribe against Mark Thompson. But I’m not telling anyone any lies here. He comes across as a thinking, sensible, caring man – buthis actions against all of us woofters is that he hates us and will work against us at any opportunity.

      • MonochromeMouse

        they also need to get rid of expat voting. if you don’t live here, and aren’t in the military or on a student visa, then you shouldn’t get to vote in an election here.

        • Peter

          Unfortunately even if you are an expat, the tax laws affect them as the US is one of the few countries that tax you on foreign earned income even if you are no longer resident in the US. so they still need to be counted.

        • Kay

          They can get rid of expat voting as soon as they get rid of expat taxing.

          The US is the only major country that taxes worldwide income – they loot my tax free savings account, even though I don’t live in the US. I live in Canada, work in Canada, own property in Canada, have a car in Canada, but I still have to pay US taxes.

          The day the US goes to the sensible residency-based taxation, they are welcome to take my vote.

          No taxation without representation.

          • MonochromeMouse

            I support getting rid of expat taxing. they shouldn’t be involved in american affairs in any way as they no longer live here. I’m also not a fan of countries allowing dual citizenship, one person should only be able to be a citizen of a country they physically live in.

          • Kay

            How would you handle snowbirds, who live in both countries, every year? How would you handle children, who have parents from both countries?

            If you eliminate dual citizenship, you also eliminate birthright citizenship – the US doesn’t have the authority to strip foreign citizenships.

      • Kay

        We should be eliminating mail-in voting except for the disabled, military, and overseas voters. Too easy for fraud, particularly in states that make the voter list public. It’s way too easy for people to abuse.

        Voting needs to be mandatory, and it needs to be a federal holiday with mandatory time off from work (like FMLA). We should adopt policies like India, and do what it takes to get everyone voter ID, rich, poor, in every city, in every school, everywhere. Work with the postal service (which is already required by law to service every address in the US) to ensure that everyone is able to get an ID at no cost. Tie it in with the selective service, to get everyone who is turning 18. Go to all the schools and pre-register people.

        Make it easy to vote, and secure.

        “Stop the electoral college as so to make EVERY vote count with EQUAL weight from Rhode Island to California; thereby increasing voter turnout nationwide and reducing voter apathy.”

        Increase the elector count, and require all states to be proportional, to give people more of a weight.

        The president isn’t supposed to be popularly elected, for very good reasons. The US was founded as a weak nation of strong States, and it is the job of the president to represent all people, and all states. This is why roughly 80% of the representation (HoR and Electoral Votes) goes based on population, and roughly 20% of the representation is done on a per-state basis. Each state has a vote, which helps to avoid all the government money and focus going towards a few large states.

        California already has 18 times the representation in the electoral college that Wyoming does. We don’t need to make it 65, particularly when California gets an extra 6 electoral votes due to illegal immigrants who can’t legally vote anyway.

        • I agree voting for the President should be a FEDERAL HOLIDAY

        • I live in Washington, one of three US states (Oregon and Colorado are the others) that does all its voting by mail.

          Here’s how voting went for me. I got my ballot in the mail about two weeks ago. One night last week, after dinner, my husband and I gathered around the dining room table. On one side, we had our ballots. On the other, we had Washington state’s official voter guide, along with several informal voting guides from some of our favorite publications and people.

          We went through the ballot vote by vote — president, governor, on down to ballot initiatives on carbon taxes and public transit — discussing the opposing arguments, allowing the boys (11 and 13) to ask questions. Overall, it took about an hour. When we were done, we put our ballots in a special envelope, affixed stamps, and dropped them in the mailbox. That’s it.

          States save millions of dollars because they don’t need to establish polling places or pay polling staff. Voter turnout is higher, especially among younger, older, poorer, and minority voters.

          There’s no need to run two separate election processes, one for in-person votes and another for mail-in absentee votes. Voter rolls are much easier to maintain and verify. Every vote leaves a paper trail. There are no issues with forms of ID, difficulties with access, or opportunities for voter intimidation.

          And there have never been any proven cases, or even serious allegations, of substantial voter fraud in UVBM states, mainly because the system renders it almost impossible. Keisling summarizes the security case:

          Mail-based voting systems today are far less risky than most polling place elections, precisely because they distribute ballots (and electoral risk) in such a decentralized way. To have any reasonable chance of success, an organized effort to defraud a mail-based system and its safeguards must involve hundreds (if not thousands) of separate acts, all of them individual felonies, that must both occur and go undetected to have any chance of success.

          Contrast that to the risks inherent in polling place elections that increasingly rely on direct-recording electronic (DRE) voting systems and proprietary software systems that both record and tally votes. A single successful software hack potentially could affect thousands of votes. It’s the difference between “retail” fraud and “wholesale” fraud.

          Voting by mail is inherently more resistant to wholesale voter fraud.

          We did this at our leisure, not during proscribed hours. We weren’t subject to the vagaries of weather or the idiosyncrasies of polling staff. We didn’t have to show any ID or wait in any lines. We had plenty of time to research and mull over each vote.

          It felt deliberative, civilized, like the way human beings ought to vote.

          • Kay

            “Here’s how voting went for me. I got my ballot in the mail about two weeks ago. One night last week, after dinner, my husband and I gathered around the dining room table. ”

            And that’s exactly why vote-by-mail needs to die. It is way too easy to pressure you into voting the way they want you to, particularly if your beliefs don’t align with your spouse. You can also sell your ballot, and it can also be redirected to someone else with an address change. Someone can go through the list of people who haven’t voted in a while, and sign them up for vote by mail and vote for them, too.

            A secret ballot is much less likely to have fraud, and with secure ID, we can reduce the risk much further. Permit the sharing of information so we can weed out duplicate registration, and ensure that everyone who registers is a citizen, and we can have genuinely secure elections.

            “We went through the ballot vote by vote — president, governor, on down to ballot initiatives on carbon taxes and public transit — discussing the opposing arguments. Overall, it took about an hour. When we were done, we put our ballots in a special envelope, affixed stamps, and dropped them in the mailbox. That’s it.”

            Arizona mails out a voter guide with all the data beforehand. You can read through it, have all the discussions, write notes to yourself – then go vote the way you wanted in a secret booth, away from your spouse. If your spouse would not approve of you voting for Trump, that’s OK – you can still do so, and nobody will be the wiser.

            “Voter turnout is higher, especially among younger, older, poorer, and minority voters.”

            It’s especially higher among dead, illegal (less risk), and otherwise fraudulent registrations. This isn’t speculation – there were a lot of people who went to vote in California and were told that they had already registered to vote by mail when they had not.

            “To have any reasonable chance of success, an organized effort to defraud a mail-based system and its safeguards must involve hundreds (if not thousands) of separate acts, all of them individual felonies, that must both occur and go undetected to have any chance of success.”

            That’s a load of horseshit. Want to see how it’s done? Take a look at Florida:

            http://6889-presscdn-0-68.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Chelsey-Smith-SOE-Affidavit.pdf

            You can do a lot of mail-in voter fraud by simply never mailing out the ballots (as the election officials are generally associated with a party). Dump a pile in the back room, and fill them out there. If you need postmarks, swap them out when you are opening the ones coming in. It’s a simple enough job to do.

            Or, you just register a bunch of people at the same address. That’s the California way:

            http://ktla.com/2016/11/03/possible-voter-fraud-being-investigated-in-san-pedro-after-83-ballots-are-mysteriously-delivered-to-one-womans-apartment/

            Pick up the pile, fill out the ballots, drop them off. It’s really not that hard.

        • MattPS

          In Mexico (and probably in some other countries as well), elections are always held on Sundays, to guarantee a great voter turnout. The sale of licquor is also prohibited.

          • Kay

            That would be a great improvement. If voting security and turnout matter, then we need to make it easy to vote in person, recognizing that some people aren’t capable no matter what we do.

      • Jay Silversmith

        But first, a candidate for president should be required to pass a psychological profile, literacy, drug and constitutional test. Same for congress.

        • We need to do something more than what we already have

    • Kim K’s Kute Koochy✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      true dat

    • Kay

      Obama: “But look, I come from Chicago, so I want to be honest, it’s not as if it’s just Republicans who have monkeyed around with elections in the past. Sometimes, Democrats have, too. … Whenever people are in power, they have this tendency to try to, you know, tilt things in their direction. That’s why we’ve got to have, I believe, a voting rights division in the Justice Department that is nonpartisan, and that is serious about investigating cases of vote fraud.”

      While we’re at it, let’s recount New Hampshire (Hillary +2,701), Maine (Hillary +19,995), and Minnesota (Hillary +26,434). Trump won by 68,000 votes in PA, so if we’re going to recount there, it’s only reasonable to recount the other states, too. If a state ends up flipping, it could make it that much harder for electors to try to flip things away from Trump – he might have won another state (particularly NH, at 0.4% difference).

      Or, maybe Hillary won another state, and it will make the electoral defection easier. Only one way to tell – we should just be fair about it.

      • Dazzer

        If Trump wants to challenge the votes in any state, he’s free to do so.

        The fact that Trump hasn’t asked for any recounts suggests that he’s not sure what the results would do to his overall vote.

        • Kay

          “The fact that Trump hasn’t asked for any recounts suggests that he’s not sure what the results would do to his overall vote.”

          More realistically, it suggests that there wasn’t any point. He won, and would only be seeking a recount in Hillary states. If Hillary already won the state, he literally has nothing to lose (and something to gain) – he’s not winning the popular election anyway, but picking up a few more electors would always look good for him and bad for Hillary.

          He hasn’t asked for a recount because they are expensive, rarely change anything, even if a state does flip, it still won’t change anything, and he’s already won.

      • Acronym Jim

        If you’re going with that quote, you should probably include the whole thing and not just the edited bit that was posted on Daily Caller and Breitbart:

        https://theintercept.com/liveblogs/trumpdown/trump-edits-video-distort-obamas-remarks-preventing-rigged-elections/

  • Lazycrockett

    Ms. Kelly Anne must be getting a bit warm.

  • Michael R

    Rigged .

    • KCMC

      triggered.

  • Lazycrockett
  • ChadSF

    How is that any different from why you plan to do D-bag? Can you be any more obvious???

  • Philly Mike

    It could be a play for Jill to gain stature in the public eye but we will get some closure to questions in MI, WI & PA more than tRUMP can provide on any subject.

  • lymis

    This from Mr. “If I think that there are any questions, I’m going to do everything legally in my power to verify the results of the election.” Or whatever the actual quote was.

    He made it crystal clear that if he didn’t win, we could all expect recounts and lawsuits. NOW he’s all “the people have spoken.”

    There’s a word for that. A bunch of them, actually.

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      Couple of words:
      Hypocritical SoB

  • Todd

    And you’d know about scams DONALD

    Besides, you lost the popular vote so … You’ll never be popular.

  • Cuberly

    Isn’t there the option to say, let the recounts happen? If he’s so confident then why would it matter?

    But no, we get treated to another freak-out from the orange poo-flinging rage monkey.

  • lymis

    “It is important to point out that with the help of millions of voters across the country, we won 306 electoral votes on Election Day – the most of any Republican since 1988 — and we carried nine of 13 battleground states, 30 of 50 states, and more than 2,600 counties nationwide – the most since President Ronald Reagan in 1984.”

    And your opponent got more of the popular vote than a losing candidate since the Civil War, dimbulb.

    • Mike__in_Houston

      At least I haven’t heard the word “mandate” lately. Not that I don’t expect Lyin’ Ryan to bring it back into the conversation again…

      • TampaDink

        Little Marco had a subscription to Mandate back in the day.

        • lymis

          Didn’t we all, dear. Didn’t we all.

          • TampaDink

            mmm-hmmm

          • CanuckDon

            Those.
            Were.
            The.
            Days my friend
            …we thought they’d never end…

          • Dazzer
          • Ernest Endevor

            I’d forgotten her. Good voice.

          • TampaDink

            We’d sing and dance forever and a day
            We’d live the life we choose
            We’d fight and never lose
            For we were young and sure to have our way.
            La la la la,
            Those were the days, oh yes those were the days

    • Kay

      “And your opponent got more of the popular vote than a losing candidate since the Civil War, dimbulb.”

      “We lost the playoffs, but we had the most total points during the regular season”

      So what?

      There were a lot of people who stayed home because they were in a state that wouldn’t matter. Maybe most of them were Trump voters. Maybe most of them were Hillary voters.

      If Trump were trying to win the popular vote, he would have campaigned in populous states and ignored the little ones. He would have lost, even if he won the popular election. It would have been stupid.

      You’re complaining that he didn’t “win” by a measure that doesn’t matter, that he didn’t campaign on, that Hillary didn’t campaign on, and which by it’s very nature tends to favour heavily populated areas (which lean Democrat, regardless of the candidates involved)?

      So what? Why would that matter?

      If Hillary had lost the popular vote, but won the election, would you be saying that the will of the people was thwarted, and that Trump should be president?

      • Dazzer

        OK. That’s a lot of words to say you’re not a fan of democracy as a policy. Fair enough.

        It doesn’t speak highly of you as a human being, but I daresay you’ve faced that comment before.

  • That_Looks_Delicious

    Ridiculous! Petty Trumpelthinskin strikes again; as usual, it’s all about him. If any voting system at all was hacked or tampered with, even if it’s just a few counties in one state, it needs to be found out, exposed and investigated, even if it doesn’t end up changing the end result. And then countermeasures need to be developed to prevent any future hacking. The confidence of the American people in their electoral system is on the line.

    • perversatile

      You said ‘Petty’. This is actuality kinda funny and insightful-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyAh-iX8Lwg

  • AtticusP

    I still find it amazing that this guy with tiny hands and an even tinier brain managed to rig the election in his favor. But I guess that, as always, money conquers all.

    • he had some help. he even said so. Putin is evil, but not stupid.

    • Mike__in_Houston

      Plus the not-insignificant help of the President of the Russian Federation and the Director of the FBI…

      • lymis

        That, too.

    • lymis

      Please. Trump didn’t rig the election. A whole hell of a lot of people rigged it for the Republicans, everything from gerrymandering to voter suppression to apparently actually fixing the results. But they would have done that for whatever Republican candidate ran against Hillary.

      Trump just benefitted. The blatant lying helped, of course.

      • BobSF_94117

        The big diff between Trump and any other Republican was the media coverage. With anyone else, there would have been (at least some) discussion of policy. Or maybe I’m naive…

        • thatotherjean

          Not that naive. We knew a great deal about the policies of the candidate who lost, and nothing about the policies of the winner. That’s not normal.

  • MonochromeMouse

    This proves not only that there was voter fraud/suppression committed by republicans this election but that Trump knew about the voter fraud/suppression committed by the republicans, otherwise he wouldn’t have drawn any more attention to the recount than there already has been that’s why he didn’t comment on it until it was clear a recount was going to happen he knows that he’s screwed if there’s an audit on any of the votes.

  • well, finally! something a lot of moderately liberal voters and drumpf can agree on. i bet that feels good. /s

  • TampaDink

    Speaking filling coffers, how much are you planning to charge in rent to your security detail?

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      Omg they railed about obama using the federal jet, airforce one.
      And trumps leasing a floor of trump tower for over a million AND charging nyc like a million per day for security. Boy i hope those poor people who voted for this piece of shit see their dollars wasted on louis the 16th.

      • TampaDink

        The trump voters have a very limited capacity to understand that they’ve been fooled. So many of them will do mental gymnastics until they find a way to be okay with everything trump/pence & the rethug. controlled congress pull on us.

        • David L. Caster

          “The larger the mob, the harder the test. In small areas, before small electorates, a first-rate man occasionally fights his way through, carrying even the mob with him by force of his personality. But when the field is nationwide, and the fight must be waged chiefly at second and third hand, and the force of personality cannot so readily make itself felt, then all the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most easily adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum.”
          —H.L. Mencken

          • TampaDink

            It is as if Mencken was looking directly into our current time.

          • LaChatSayWha

            I’m finding Mencken satisfying reading at this moment in history. The American Grift has a long history.

  • Mike__in_Houston

    I think this recount is important. I don’t have any hopes that anything is going to change as a result of it, but at least it is a small first step in the direction of Democrats not just quietly accepting everything that the Republicans have been throwing at them for the last 16 years, starting with the Supreme Court virtually appointing Bush as president, and ending with their refusal to have hearings on Merrick Garland and this sham of an election, which went to Trump with the significant help of Putin and Comey. And anything that can be used to undermine the attack of Trump et al. on America and the world is valuable. Even the fact that Trump took the time to address this issue is significant.

    What I’d really like to see is more attention being given and money directed to the Senate runoff in Louisiana. If Foster Campbell wins, there will be 49 Democratic senators; and I read somewhere, I think on JMG, that two of the senators are Independents. So this setup could easily throw a monkey wrench into Trump’s plans to have all of his destructive policies rubber-stamped.

  • DaveMiller135

    Like many basically decent people, popular vote winner Hillary Clinton may have had difficulty imagining the depths you were willing to descend to, in order to win. But I think she might be catching on.

  • FAEN

    Dumpster knows all about scams.

  • MikeBx2

    The tone of that statement alone shows further investigation is needed.

  • They’re getting nervous!

    And yes, the people have spoken. Hillary wins the popular vote by 2.2 million votes and climbing.

    And no, the election is not over until the votes are certified and the electors vote on December 19th. Read a book, Donald. Preferably one on the Constitution, for starters.

    • yeruncle

      Where the Trump campaign claims there is nothing to see is always where they don’t want you to look.

      • perversatile

        When you’re the Scam-Meister everything is a scam.

        • MonochromeMouse

          Scams tend to require a lot more thought and effort than trump (small “t” like his tiny hands) puts into his lies, I think the people who he fucks over are just too scared to do or say anything about it so he ends up being successful.

    • Xiao Ai

      politicususa is highly questionable with its reporting. I’m not at all familiar with Palmer.

    • Mark

      “now acknowledging that nearly five thousand of the supposed votes for Trump simply never existed”

      I guess they can’t call it voter fraud when it’s just a little padding… Next up….PaddyGate!

      • And then the recount, and it’s PaddyMelt! :0D

        • Mark

          And I am hoping for…”Let them eat PaddyCake!”

  • You won through the quirks of the rule. You did not (and hopefully never will) receive the mandate of the majority of us who voted.

  • unclemike

    Well, he does have familiarity with scams…

    • TampaDink

      He co-wrote the book on scams.

  • juanjo54

    I have no love for Jill Stein. After all she said during the campaign that a Trump win would be a good thing for her and the Green Party because it would mean people would flock to their banner and the Democrats would disintegrate. So I am a bit leery of her motives here.

    That said, if a recount shows hanky panky which shifts the election to Clinton – all good for me. If the side effect is that Stein’s voter numbers go up from 1% to 1.5% I can live with that.

  • JT

    It is important to point out that with the help of millions of voters across the country

    And Putin and AssMange and Nazis and wingnuts and the Macedonian fake newsies. A stellar bunch of people.

  • Cuberly

    Con-Way is beginning to sound like her boss. Is it infectious?

    “What a pack of sore losers,” Conway said in a statement to Bloomberg. “After asking Mr. Trump and his team a million times on the trail, ‘Will HE accept the election results?’ it turns out Team Hillary and their new BFF Jill Stein can’t accept reality.”

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/what-a-pack-of-losers-kellyanne-conway-blasts-clinton-campaign-for-joining-recount/

    • Moebym of the Rebel Alliance

      Fuck her.

      • Cuberly

        Yeah, I’m not a fan. She’s a second rate pollster shoe-horned into being yet another Drumpf surrogate. And the media just played along.

    • CanuckDon

      I wonder if she’s saying the same thing about McCrory in NC.

      • Cuberly

        Heh, nope, the GOP is so desperate in NC it’s actually quite funny.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      Maybe the same alien creature controlling Don’s brain has infected hers.

      • Cuberly

        Brain? Well, lord knows there’s a shit ton of cerebral room for that alien parasite to stretch out and do their work. Cleaning out the cobwebs first of course.

  • Homo Erectus

    Remind me, please – which candidate just settled a yoouge scam lawsuit?

  • dafs

    Weird how he doesn’t mention the popular vote.

    • Cuberly

      It isn’t stopping certain talking-heads from claiming they have a mandate. When they have everything BUT a mandate.

  • Jack_Carter_USA

    Hey, he spent weeks saying the election would be rigged. Let’s see if he was telling the truth for once.

  • greenmanTN

    Pooty-poot must be getting nervous.

  • Paula

    Donnie is just positively pissy when someone else comes up with a moneymaking idea and he can’t use it.
    #CheetoliniGrumpy

  • Phil

    How statesman-like, Donald. You’re going to have to grow a thicker skin if you want to do a credible job.

  • PickyPecker
    • Gerry Fisher

      Probably my #1 comment: “You guys just got conned!” If was a *masterful* con: selling Donald Trump as presidential material. But it was a con nonetheless.

  • David in Palm Springs

    The people HAVE spoken. Two million more of them DIDN’T vote for you. Four years ago you said that the Electoral College was criminal. By ALL accounts, you shouldn’t be president… and more than half America will keep reminding you of that fact.
    #NotMyPresident

  • Slippy_World
  • Silver Badger

    One would think he would welcome the chance to prove the honesty of the election. I wonder what trump has to hide?

  • OdieDenCO

    this was not a normal election. a closer look at the process is called for and should be expected.

  • SoCalGal20

    You’re the one who was saying the election was rigged, Drumpf. We’re just following up on that claim.

    Now, storytime! I was dropping stuff off at my storage unit this morning and there were a couple of guys there talking about Trump. They were SO excited. The one guy was talking about Mattis (has he officially been offered a position?). The other guy was very impressed with how quickly Drumpf was bringing people on board. Much faster than the Dems. Then the other guy was talking about how great it was that Drumpf was only taking $1 as his salary. Boy, are they in for a rude awakening! If I’m stuck with Drumpf, I’m going to at least look forward to that. 🙂

  • Michael R
    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      Those coffer cups are located in aleppo

    • another_steve

      Hopefully the last we’ll ever see of that disaster of a man.

      His run was a sad moment in history for Libertarians of all stripes.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        I don’t know why the VP of that ticket wasn’t the P instead. At least Weld sounds like he reads the paper and has seen a globe.

        • another_steve

          Weld is probably an honest and respectable Libertarian. I understand he’s LGBT-affirmative.

          I actually identify more as a progressive Libertarian than as a Democrat. There are many many schools of Libertarian thought.

          That said, I vote Democratic 100 percent of the time.

          • Skeptical_Inquirer

            I ended up not liking the Libertarian Party because they have supported the Pauls who are both totally anti-choice. I can’t respect a party that gives more freedom to a business regarding its practices than a woman over her own body.

          • another_steve

            Again, many many schools of Libertarian thought.

            I am for small, non-nanny government that does not seek to supersede the intuitive wisdom of the people.

            Government that does not tell women how to live their reproductive lives. Government that does not tell people who they may love and marry.

            Monsters like the Pauls do not represent my school of Libertarianism.

    • J Ascher
    • Ernest Endevor

      Hilarious.

  • HZ81

    Donald, we’re just making sure the election wasn’t rigged. You know, what you were so sure was happening?

    Already Worst President Ever and he’s not even in yet.

  • Jeffrey

    Nothing may come of it, but hopefully it hammers home the point that the majority of Americans did not vote for this asshole.

  • paganguy

    He’s just mad he couldn’t figure out a way to do it himself without looking bad… er… worse.

  • rednekokie

    Mr. Trump — you may have gain the “selection” but you lost the election — by more than two million votes. There is no way in hell you can bluff your conniving ways out of that.

  • Chris Davis

    Trump: Reliably nauseating.

  • Jerry Kott

    So says the King of Scams!

    I came across this article and believe it is very accurate in describing the Hinterlands and the underbelly of how this ruse happened. It is another reality Out there.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/the-dark-rigidity-of-fundamentalist-rural-america-a-view-from-the-inside/#.WDg4jIAjBXF.facebook

    • bzrd

      thank you, Jerry, for posting this excellent and informative article

      • Jerry Kott

        You are welcomed. It accurately describes the mindset of who runs the show in the outback. This mindset is what my partner and I have stood up to but I could never put in words this well. The roots of Hated are deep but that is no reason to not stand up to .

  • Max_1
  • Martin

    Shorter Trump: Don’t try to find truth, I’ll tell you what your truth is.

  • houstonray

    And 2016 isn’t done yet. Ron Glass has died at age 71….

    Prolific actor, known for Barney Miller and many other shows of course, but I loved him in Firefly…

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/155e9e71b62bb3fc614f802464969333ce8477d50f04d5a93e9f7b54dddd1dde.jpg

    • TuuxKabin

      Up vote for the notification. Not the loss. I have to admit, I do not know this actor, the series, yeah of course. Sorry for yet another loss to so many people, especially his family, friends and ‘crew’ he worked with. The way this year is winding down, what the hell’s going to kick off the next one? Rest In Love and Peace dear Ron Glass.

    • Rebecca Gardner

      Fuck you 2016! You fucking suck so fucking hard. Sorry for so many fucks but I just can’t fucking take any more bad fucking news anymore.

      2016 SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • SoCalGal20

      Awwww I loved him! He was great on Firefly.

    • Lazycrockett

      Someone needs to secure Betty White in a underground shelter till January 2nd. Just in case.

      • houstonray

        She IS a national treasure! Amen to that!!

    • Lazycrockett
    • Silver Badger

      Oh no!

  • GayOldLady

    I want to hear a 2 paragraph press release from Trump repudiating the White Nationalists and Neo-nazi’s that support him. Hell he can bitch tweet about Hamilton and SNL but {{{crickets}}} about the radicals in his campaign and among his supporters.

    • houstonray

      THIS!!! You are so right, I think about that every time I see a stupid butt hurt tweet from him about someone being mean to him or whatever and yet, not a peep from him about all the hate crimes happening IN HIS NAME.

      He’s just a pathetic, little, thin skinned, man (and I use the term ‘man’ loosely).

  • another_steve

    Yes yes yes… Donald Trump is the President-Elect of the United States… but (and this is very important) Aidan Turner is still on the planet.

    Really…

    How fuckin’ shitty can life truly be, considering Aidan Turner is still here?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/767dccdf0041d1c8c87976723629e55b76db81a4f030ab9b34eb37d6c1407cc5.jpg

    • ultragreen

      If he is in my bedroom, I may be able to overlook a Trump presidency.

      • another_steve

        I have scoured Pornhub — for countless countless hours — looking for his look-alike.

        No luck to date.

  • TominDC

    I’m quite sure Clinton make her speech the day after the election, and not “election night.”

    What a pathological liar.

  • thatotherjean

    And if, even as a side effect, Jill Stein’s recount efforts find enough monkey business has gone on to sway the vote in your favor, so that we can boot your behind out of office before you start, it will have been worth every penny, and more.

  • Moebym of the Rebel Alliance

    If the EC doesn’t vote against this shitstain, it needs to go. No use keeping something around that does the opposite of what it’s intended to do.

    • TallBearNC

      It needed to die 40 years ago. It’s archaic and there really no use for it anymore. Popular vote should matter-not state by state electorates. Had it been gone., Clinton would be president elect.

      • Moebym of the Rebel Alliance

        Ironically, both Hillary and DJT at different times had expressed their desire to have something done about the EC. Her after 2000, him after 2012. No campaign to get rid of it or change it has taken off.

        Maybe this election will be the beginning of the end of it.

  • saucetin

    That IS what it would be if HE were doing it! Glad you understand SOME of your enemies. Who are too numerous and varied to contain w/in that 1/2-right assumption.

    P.s.–what if we rebranded the alt-rite as the 1/2-right? Which part is right? That some people should leave: and “…go back to Northern Europe!”

    • zhera

      Oi! Northern Europe doesn’t want the nazis who call themselves alt-right. We have enough issues all by ourselves, thankyouverymuch.

      • saucetin

        Oh good heavens I meant that might be where they’d absurdly claim ancestry FROM, not where they’d return to. No, they don’t deserve that land at all.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    I think I’m at the last stage of grieving. That or I just don’t give a fucking fuck anymore.

    Us Bikers have FTW. It means FUCK THE WORLD. I’m pretty much there right now mentally. Whatever happens happens. I will not let these fascists fuckheads win. I will fight for my safety and my rights and my life. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/50fca1fb138f232d19089e8071cd900dae505a38f859d85077e56c0fdac3205d.jpg

    • tcinsf

      I beat you there. My first concern is going to be what happens right here in you and my home town if His Grifting Highness does cut off all federal funding as he says he will. I wish I had a clue how that’s going to shake out … but I don’t see any good ending to that mess.

  • Puckfair52

    For example, in Outagamie County, the total number of votes cast for president was initially reported out of precincts from the town of Grand Chute as 4,214.
    The problem is, according to the same set of numbers, only 3,088 ballots were actually cast.
    Thus, 1,126 extra votes were added to the totals for the presidential election; and in a state that Donald Trump won with a well under 1 percent margin — and was instrumental to his leading margin in the electoral college — 1,126 extra votes is a big deal, even more than it normally might be.
    Similar discrepancies were found in the vote totals out of other towns in the same county. The initial results out of Bear Creek showed 144 total votes cast for president, but that exact same set of numbers showed that only 143 ballots were actually cast.
    The same thing happened in the Hortonville numbers. Initial results reported 1,949 votes cast for president, but, according to the same report, only 1,516 ballots were actually cast. Thus, almost 500 presidential votes magically appeared out of nowhere.
    drip drip drip
    Donald may have had political case of the clap

  • TallBearNC

    Chances are a recount won’t help Clinton..MAYBE she’d get one state, but that would not be enough…she’d need to get: PA plus one other state…maybe 2?

    She might get one, but that’s all

    Unless WIDE-spread voter tampering hacking were discovered , but once the EC votes, I don’t think ANY recounts will matter. I think it must all be challenged b4 it meets.

    …I doubt the electoral college will elect Clinton.. too many states don’t allow the electorates to vote their own way… Only few states can an electoral person vote against their state, and even then, there are penalties ..

    • TallBearNC

      Even if it did out right elect Clinton – which is constitutionally allowable and legally allowed to do… You know Donald Trump would be suing for years. Plus riots etc from his crazy followers

      • ultragreen

        That’s okay, let them sue and bang their little heads on the bars of their ideological cages.

      • Moebym of the Rebel Alliance

        Electing a suitable candidate is not just allowable – it’s the EC’s raison d’être. It was created to prevent the people from electing someone like him. But this time, it won’t, for the reasons you stated, and also because of partisanship.

        • TallBearNC

          Correct, it was created to prevent the people from making a mistake… But I don’t think the EC will ever go against The people… it’s to corrupted..it’s not like the people who vote in it are neutral… They are all tied, or bought, by special interest groups ( in this case I would hope more of them were bought and paid for by liberals versus conservatives LOL ).. 2 people from Oregon or Washington have already said that they’re not voting for Clinton even though their state won for Clinton .. I think the only fine in this particular state is $1000 for not voting for whomever that state chose.. but I sincerely doubt the college will go against the current election

          That’s why I said it needs to go because the electoral college has really not done anything that it’s really supposed to have done except being a robot and casting their votes

          If they really did do what they’re supposed to do they would elect Hillary Clinton and declare Donald Trump unfit

  • William

    Dear Donnie,
    Bite me.

    Sincerely,
    William

    • another_steve

      “Bite me” is good.

      In Yiddish we would say, “Dein killa is mein gedilla.”

      Roughly: “Your rupture (hernia) is my delight.”

  • ultragreen

    Scam? The Wisconsin recount is already a done deal.

  • bob

    I think if they find thousands of fraudulent votes, we have no choice that to pursue a total recount. Maybe even a new election. Do you see trumps yuge problem here? He believes it doesn’t matter if the election was rigged as long as he won, and that is not a quality I prefer in a president elect!

    • another_steve

      It would be tricky.

      Remember — a lot of Americans voted for the Reality TV sexual predator.

      If you disrupt the election result, there could be revolution in the streets.

      • Silver Badger

        Either way the potential for a civil / race war is great.

        • another_steve

          The Trump-supporting thugs who would initiate that war are of such limited intelligence that I don’t think they could pull it off.

          There is an art to warfare.

          • TallBearNC

            Military would annihilate them

          • another_steve

            It’s going to be fascinating (terrifying) to see who Trump appoints to top military positions.

          • TallBearNC

            He can’t appoint generals/admirals. He can appoint a sec of defense.

          • another_steve

            Yes, but his Secretary of Defense can replace her/his subordinates… yes?

          • TallBearNC

            Trump can do it himself. I looked it up. The president can fire ANY military commander.

          • Moebym of the Rebel Alliance

            If they want war, they will lose because they don’t know the enemy – they only know violence.

            But people almost certainly will die.

          • another_steve

            Thuggery prevails temporarily, but not permanently. History students know this.

            Revolution is not the Way of Things (or as we Philosophical Daoists put it, the “dao”) because it interferes with the inborn desire and need for predictability.

          • Silver Badger

            Even an attempt could cause a lot of carnage.

      • TallBearNC

        Let them revolt and let the National Guard / military come in and put them all down like the dogs they are

      • bob

        And so far, more people voted for Hillary. This has to be fixed! If people accept

      • cleos_mom

        Possibly but if anything about the election needs to be re-examined that decision mustn’t be made on the basis of vague “could be” threats.

  • Mark

    Hey Cheeto – it’s their money – and if it was all fair and square with nothing to worry, what the fuck are you squawking about? I mean, other people spending their money to prove (or not) that you’re the big orange cheese ( as in head cheese).- and you want to bitch about it??

  • TallBearNC

    I’ve seen a lot of Democrats and some Republicans calling to have electoral college abolished, but that is something that is completely outside of Congress jurisdiction – they cannot pass any laws affecting the electoral college because electoral college is defined in the 12th amendment of our Constitution

    Only thing Congress can do is start the constitutional amendment process, pass it, and 35 states must ratify it ( or 35 states can call the constitutional convention to bypass Congress )

    Either way I don’t see an amendment being passed anytime soon to abolish electoral college even though I wish it would be abolished.

    Although I wish it would elect Clinton and declare Trump unfit… But I highly doubt that’s going to happen – that would be a dream come true .. I think Clintons only hope would be a countrywide recount and have a lot of voter fraud / hacking discovered

    • Moebym of the Rebel Alliance

      There should at least be a workaround to make the EV spread more representative of how the people actually voted, while retaining the EC’s ability to perform its stated purpose. This would prevent this ridiculous EV loss/PV win phenomenon like the one that occurred from happening again. Something like the National Popular Vote, or split EVs (like what ME and NE have) in each state would work well.

      • TallBearNC

        Aye. But that would still require a constitutional amendment.

        • SoCalGal20

          No it doesn’t. There’s the National Popular Vote Compact. 11 states with 165 (?) EV have already adopted it, with PA and MI pending passage in their legislatures. States that sign the compact pledge that their EV will go to the popular vote winner. No Constitutional amendment required.

          Once they get to 270 EV signed to the compact the Electoral College is moot.

          • TallBearNC

            I still don’t see how that can override the 12th ammendment.

            The only 2 ways I know are:
            1) congress dtarts the process, 35 states ratify
            2) 35 states bypass congress, call constitutional convention, then ratify

            I don’t see how any states adopting this will change anything as scotus would strike it down. .. unless it’s an amendment … and I haven’t heard of one yet.

          • TallBearNC

            Never mind. I looked up the 12th ammentment. It lets each state decide how to allocate EVs. So yes, this would work

      • Lazycrockett

        There is one just needs enough states that have laws that say they have to vote for the popular candidate to reach the 270 number.

        • Moebym of the Rebel Alliance

          National Popular Vote.

      • Friday

        One thing that could help down the road would actually be a priority system such that people can, say, vote third party on principle and still have their vote fall to their second choice if their preferred candidate isn’t one of the final two…. That way not only could we have third party non-spoilers, they’d have to do something productive instead of try and portray everyone else as ‘badbabdad, equally.’

        • Aussie Dave

          Such systems already exist, only the US was willing to adopt them more broadly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting

          Given this is the system used everywhere here in Australia I might be a bit biased in its favour because we don’t seem to reach the level of fuckery seen in the US.

          • Dazzer

            We have an Alternative Vote system used in the UK’s European elections and mayoral elections – and it works fine. It actually adds a bit of fun to the process of voting because you have to work out how you can work principle and pragmatism into how you vote.

          • Friday

            That’s actually a very legit point in its favor. It’d also mean we could probably have a real Green party here in the US: Stein’s stunt about going anti-Hillary and trying to keep the Berniebot damage going is what made me tear up any remaining affiliations there: apparently the Euro Greens felt the same way.

            Fact is the Greens under Stein *haven’t* even been getting progressive or environmental messages out, never mind work done, whereas the Democrats *have,* and that’s basically meant brain drain for the Greens here, …it’d be nice to see an active Green Party being more than a spoiler. I’m sure some libertarian-inclined folks feel the same.

        • IamM

          Ranked voting is definitely the way to go. No spoiler candidates, no strategic voting, no incentive to do anything but honestly rank the candidates from best to worst. Plus eliminating runoff elections and emphasizing broad general support instead of a dedicated base.

      • IamM

        One, distribute a state’s electoral votes among the candidates in proportion to the popular vote there. If you get 51% of the vote in a state with ten electoral votes then you get 5.1 of them. Decimal math isn’t difficult. Make the candidates work for everyone’s vote.

        Two, reduce the over representation of small states. Maybe issue ev’s to states in proportion to House representation?

        Three, punish low voter turnout in a state by reducing the weight of their electoral votes. Maybe 95% or better counts as 100%, 90-94 is weighted by 0.95 etc…? If your state’s people don’t care enough to vote or they’re not all allowed to then there’s no reason the rest of us to give their opinion equal weight.

        • Moebym of the Rebel Alliance

          “Make the candidates work for everyone’s vote.” Yes, instead of just the votes of those in swing states. It just makes sense that the leader of the country should have to work for everyone’s votes.

          • IamM

            Yes, definitely. And not just that but also all the people being effectively disenfranchised within states (or congressional districts in the couple of states that do that) by the winner take all approach. For example Wikipedia says Georgia’s population is 30.5% African-American, that alone should be worth almost five of our electoral votes. And No one wins all the votes in Florida or Pennsylvania, or wherever so why does one candidate get all the electors? The Senate is the place for equal representation of the states, the presidency is a national office and the president should represent people everywhere in the nation. Not just those demographics who happen to be in position to throw a large swing state.

        • Dazzer

          EDITED because I don’t have enough information. But there’s a campaign of some sort that’s being mooted at an individual state level that works something like that.

          • IamM

            There’s a pact for states agreeing to cast their electoral votes according to the national popular vote if they can get at least 270 votes worth to agree.

            On the plus side, it would be a way of turning the presidential election into a national popular vote without needing a constitutional amendment or any laws passed by congress. On the minus, it probably won’t get to 270 because it dilutes the power of small states and swing states.

            Maybe the signatories should agree to cast their ev according to their own aggregate popular vote until they have the 270? Acting like one giant state. Maybe that would tip the incentives to join. idk.

          • Dazzer

            Thank you. That’s what I was thinking about. Much appreciaed 🙂

  • Elsewhere1010

    And if anyone can identify a scam, it’s Donald Trump.

  • Larry in Oklahoma

    If he’s not scared or concerned, why would he even care or comment? 🙂

    • Friday

      Cause he’s a fucking narcissistic psycho?

      • Larry in Oklahoma

        And that’s saying it nicely. lol

    • Bryan

      My thoughts exactly. He just CONFIRMED that not only are we doing the right thing, but that we’ll find something hugely damning in there. When countertransference tells you something, learn to listen. =D

      • Dazzer

        The Putinbots on the Guardian’s Comment is Free went into meltdown as soon as it was apparent that Stein was going to reach her target.

        They argued against it every which way they could. Finally, they resorted to posting links to Stein’s donation page for the recount and kept on urging as many non-Americans as possible to donate – thereby making Sein guilty of accepting illegal campaign donations.

        Luckily there were enough of us aware of what they were doing to warn everyone off donating unless they were Americans or had a right to vote in American elections.

        Fortunately, Stein’s campaign had also made this VERY clear on their donations page.

        There wasn’t a dirty trick they were afraid of using – Stein’s Recount has scared the ever-living shit out of them. They weren’t expecting it and it has them rattled. Two of the most senior Putinbots – nataliesutler and Copper66 – who I think are overseer of the disinformation on the pages of the Guardian, were pulling 16-hour shifts to promote whatever dount or discord they could.

        Believe me, Trump’s digital allies are crapping themselves at the prospect of a recount.

        • Bryan

          That has me even more convinced we’ve got this and in all likelihood this’ll be big enough to give Hillary the election. They wouldn’t be shitting themselves THIS hard otherwise. They know it’s happening, they know they can’t stop it, and they know it’ll overturn everything they tried to create.

          • Bryan

            Since they’re guilty of projecting their shit onto us I’ll borrow their terms: why are they so scared, if they’ve nothing to hide? Especially the putinbots, they’ve got no real “hand” in this, this doesn’t concern them, where they live. This has to do with our election’s integrity.

            ….Unless of course, they did something, and they’re scared they’ll absolutely be discovered now. That’s okay comrades, you aren’t very smart we understand, you’re too dumb to help yourselves.

          • Dazzer

            This is very much the argument that has been thrown at them – and they have no answer.

            Throwing Trump’s campaign rhetoric about the elction being rigged has left them in a bind.

            And I’m not being paranoid about them being Putinbots. We know who they are and they know we know.

            A couple of weeks ago it was Russia Day (a national holiday) and the Putinbots were still plugging away at a pro-Trump argument. I suggested that everyone on CiF gavethem an hour to go away and at least have a couple of vodkas before resuming hostilities.

            None of the Putinbots answered me but I got hundreds of upticks. And for an hour, the debate about Trump seemed to be a relatively reasnable debate. Then, after an hour, they all came back and it got nasty again.

            It’s got to the stage where non-Putinbots on the Guardian give the Russians weather reports in St Petersburg and warn them when their shifts are about to be over.

            The digital cold war and the Russian disinformation strategy is truly werd.

          • Bryan

            So what’s your thinking – is it gonna be a significant shitstorm, enough to throw it to Hillary or is it just a little tampering here and there?

          • Dazzer

            The simple answer is I don’t know.

            Because of the Civil War and the ready availability of weaponry, I’ve always thought that the American establishment has always paid more mind to the smooth transition of power than it has to democratic principles.

            To an extent – as a non-American – I’ve always seen that philosophy as a boil that needs to be lanced.

            Either the USA is a nation of laws or it isn’t.

            But that’s easy for me to say – I don’t live in the US. If I step outside my door, the most violence I can expect is someone swearing at me. (After many years in London, I’ve only been mugged twice. Once an early-adopter crackhead tried to stab me, made a feint at me and fucked up his knife when it encountered the bottles of wine I was carrying in my duffle coat to bring back to my flatmates. So I just shouted at him and he ran away.

            The other time was when I’d recently fallen off a roof and injured my back, so I had to use a walking stick.

            When he came at me with a knife, I used my walking stick to knock the knife out of his hand and continued to keep on kicking him in the balls until he was dragged away by a friend.)

            My personal experience of crime is infinitely lower than many Americans.. So I’m no expert.

            All of that said, the future of the USA is going to go to the people who want it most.

            The followers of Trump are feeling so disenfranchised (for whatever reason) that they’re prepared to visit their vision of dsystopia on everyone else.

            The majority of Americans have voted against that. But the eal test will be if theey’re prepared to fight for their vision of a better, kinder America.

          • Bryan

            Ah I shoulda surmised from the guardian comment you weren’t just commenting on the message boards but you were one of our Euro followers – God I wish I could move to London, and not just for the chance to stumble into blue phoneboxes. I’m glad to know though that the natter is suggesting HUGE fraud. I’m too close to it and scared to be hopeful that Hillary has a shot in hell – it’s starting to REALLY feel hopeful especially with her campaign joining in but it’s hard to remain positive with so many “just accept it, it won’t do shit” folks around bringin’ the mood down.

  • CatCope

    11/2016 – “DRUMPH LOSES!”
    Drumph: “This election was a fraud & a scam. I demand a recount!”

  • Ninja0980

    How dare someone else muscle in on my scams!

    • NO MORE GOP!

      Nailed it.

  • Lazycrockett
    • SoCalGal20

      There’s something rotten going on in WI, aside from the voter suppression. Several precincts with ONLY inflated totals for Trump. How convenient! In the end I doubt it will make a difference in the results but I look for to seeing Drumpf’s lead shrink some more.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        I think even proving ONE state was full of shit will cast a huge pall on the DT presidency. If one, why not all the red states? (Of course, I know most red states did vote for him but you know)

        • SoCalGal20

          I’d love for it to be shown that WI, the home of Reince Priebus and Paul Ryan, was rigged. Like, aside from the voter supression. They’re all shady as hell.

          • Skeptical_Inquirer

            If the base had any ethics, they’d refuse to vote a party that plays that kind of dirty shit or demand clean behavior. But I’m not holding my damn breath. That said, this is more face rubbing material and “I am like Jeebus” shutdown material.

    • JohnFS
  • Gerry Fisher

    “You didn’t write that. You’ve never spoken anything like that.”

  • Moebym of the Rebel Alliance

    Totally on topic: Noam Chomsky thinks Assclown is an “ignorant, thin-skinned megalomaniac”, among other things, and warns that the changes he will bring about will be terrible.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/upfront/2016/11/upfront-special-noam-chomsky-trump-era-161125114959227.html

    • Natty Enquirer

      Said the erudite, thin-skinned megalomaniac. 😀

      • Moebym of the Rebel Alliance

        Eh, when he’s right, he’s right. He also said we have a moral obligation to vote against the greater evil, so while he hates Hillary, he knew she was the better choice.

        That makes him better than the shitstains known as Bernie-or-Busters.

        • leastyebejudged

          It’s funny that you let right wing trolls fool you into going full retard like that, but at least it’s entertaining.

          • Moebym of the Rebel Alliance

            I see, you’re one of them. I’m in no mood to be kind today.

            Blocked.

          • leastyebejudged

            No, I voted for HRC, I went door to door for her, and my county had a near 80% turnout.

            What exactly did you and the other whining assholes here do ?

            Thanks for proving exactly why we lost.

  • Kelly Lape

    If you respect the process, you respect the recount. If you’re a Republican you run to the supreme court to make them stop counting – oh wait, the Supreme Court is a man down and can’t appoint anyone this time…

  • petewestcentral

    Trump confirms, on with the recounts!

  • The Return of Traxley

    Donnie, it appears that thousands upon thousands of Americans aren’t happy with the idea of you destroying their country through incompetence, corruption, and bigotry.

    They voluntarily donated millions of dollars. Millions of dollars to spend against you, and the amount keeps growing with no sign of slowing down. It should be obvious to you that all these people don’t — they WON’T — like you. In fact, they’re PAYING to have to fail. You can’t sue them, because you have no idea who they are. They could be strangers to you, or they could be your best “friends.” You will never know.

    But know this: The majority of voters think you’re the inferior choice for president. They will never love or worship you. In fact, they will speak out against you in spite of your Twitter storms — they find your Tweets hilarious and will share and mock them.

    Four years will seem like an enrernity to you. Get used to it.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      Pussy Riot spoke out against Putin. Roman citizens mocked their various Emperors. Peasants revolted against the King & Queen of France. Saudi Arabian women drive and get arrested under a tyrannical monarchy.

      Trump is not going to be able to silence everybody.

      • The Return of Traxley

        You’re right. He is not going to be able to force the populace to admire him to the degree he is accustomed to. And it will make him seethe with frustration, because he has no resources with which to retaliate; in fact, any attempt to do so will be as effective as locking a hornet nest.

        • Skeptical_Inquirer

          I heard some Trumpers are trying to disrupt comedian routines that go against Trump and even use racial slurs if the comedian is not white. While security should bounce them out, I think what really needs to happen is for the audience to turn against them, boo THEM for fucking with their good time.

          • The Return of Traxley

            It will happen. Now that the initial election shock has worn off, ordinary folks are sick of it all and aren’t going to let the bigots and Trumpanzees seize the stage any longer.

          • bob

            trump or his supporters can’t take criticism and have absolutely NO sense of humor!

        • RoFaWh

          I hope every time he goes out in public, he is met by a loud chorus of boos and hisses. I’d add rotten veggies, but the Secret Service would likely disapprove.

        • Silver Badger

          Why would your original comment be in moderation? Trolls at work?

          • TuuxKabin

            Yeah, I was wondering that too. Been like that since last night.

          • Dreaming Vertebrate

            Homocons at work??

          • The Return of Traxley

            More like a disaffected disciple of Susan Sarandon. A self-entitled mess not used to being denied his wants. Fuck him.

          • The Return of Traxley

            Troll at work or a pissed-off far-leftist hit-and-run I called out a couple of nights ago. I wasn’t having any more of the “Shillary” shit and ripped him a new one, which naturally makes me equal to Louie Gohmert.

            Fuck him.

          • The Return of Traxley

            Yes. Apparently I have a hater.

            I have an idea it might be the leftist purity bro who was condemning JMG and those in the comments threads. He was demanding that we all leave HIS Democratic Party and join the GOP where we belonged. He seems fond of the term “Shillary,” and a quick review of his comment history shows he hits disqus sites all over, picking fights with everyone who’s to the right of hardcore socialists.

            He’s vindictive and entitled. He is not a very nice person. -10/10 would fuck. 10/10 would fuck with a cactus.

          • Silver Badger

            I’m sorry to here that. I have people who dislike me. As I am working through rather a lot of anger right now, their number is greater than it was. Stay strong!

          • The Return of Traxley

            Thank you for the encouragement.

            I wish you the same.

            I won’t back down, I won’t be silenced, and I will stand up for myself and the rights of others.

            Fuck the haters and the bigots.

          • Moebym of the Rebel Alliance

            Cacti with glochids. 🙂

      • RoFaWh

        More directly relevant: the English chopped the head off Charles I and chased James II off the throne before the point was made that the monarch reigns by the consent of Parliament.

  • Ninja0980

    Ron Glass died, fuck 2016.

    • SoCalGal20

      I was looking forward to 2017 being an improvement and then the election happened.

    • Phillip in L.A.

      Thx for that Ninja0980–yeah, 2016’s not exactly been propitious.

    • tcinsf

      For you young-uns who only know him from Firefly, do yourself a favor and watch Barney Miller. I’m sure its on Hulu or TV land.
      Hill Street Blues, too, which has no relation go Ron Glass … but you should watch it anyway.

      • SoCalGal20

        I grew up watching Barney Miller because my mom watched it. I don’t remember it super well but it was an excellent show.

    • sherman

      Barney Miller had an excellent cast, and Ron complemented them very well. I loved him on that show.

  • SoCalGal20

    Hey, Jill, who the fuck do you think is paying for all these recounts? Hint: Not your Green Party members. Not to mention, way to misrepresent Clinton.

    Any temporary goodwill I had toward you has been purged. However, I will hold my nose since you seem to be pursuing legit recounts and that is something I can support.

    https://twitter.com/drjillstein/status/802628319422320640

    • Moebym of the Rebel Alliance

      We didn’t have a goddamned democracy to begin with, because we have a party that’s been actively trying for years to neutralize it. Where were you when Republicans were purging people off of voter rolls? Where were you when they created strict voter ID laws that effectively kept millions from voting? Where were you when the Voting Rights Act was gutted? Where were you when hundreds of polling locations were closed?

      Right, you just start a recount AFTER the election is over, and then have the gall to suggest that Hillary isn’t respecting democracy by signing onto the recount.

      You are a fucking disgrace, Jill Stein.

    • another_steve

      Ralph Nader — who helped bring us Bush the Idiot from Texas — ushered in the closing years of the Green Party.

      Jill Stein has sealed the deal.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      I’m very much a “I don’t have to like you to find what you’re doing beneficial” and this just confirms it.

      • SoCalGal20

        I hear you. I can ge pragmatic when necessary.

    • Friday

      Jill, will you *please* learn to shut up when you’re actually having a moment of not pissing off everyone on your own ostensible side?

    • Bryan

      I really effing hate this bitch – but in all fairness this is basically what we were saying, right? She’s just saying it more rudely than we were. Hillary conceded so she can’t contest the results without looking hypocritical, thus the Greens step in and fuck their shit up on our behalf. Just…trying to be benefit-of-the-doubty…

  • Lazycrockett

    You know its Bizzarro world when Teen Vogue is commenting on a Drump Presidency.

    https://twitter.com/TeenVogue/status/802650149721960448

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      Perhaps the people judging the Trumpeteers will be their female children.

    • SoCalGal20

      Not only commenting but doing better work than much of MSM.

  • SoCalGal20

    And today in the #MAGA chronicles, this happened in CA. 3 CA mosques sent hate letter from “American for a Better Way” warning that “Trump’s “going to do to you Muslims what Hitler did to the Jews”.

    http://m.ocregister.com/articles/muslims-736639-letter-incidents.html

    Apparently the OC Register has been doing a good job of reporting hate incidents in the wake of the election. And that reminds me, if you have decent local press covering important local stories, support them!

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      Someone needs to find out who sent that shit and out them.

      • SoCalGal20

        I believe authorities are investigating. Somebody should ask Paul Ryan about it since the group/person is calling themselves “Americans for a Better Way”.

    • Bryan

      It just burns Trumplethinskin and his followers SOOOO bad that for all his obsession with gold, the Golden State will be FOREVER beyond his reach. We support our own here, we’re West Sanctuary and we’re NOT TO BE FUCKED WITH.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        With the way he’s behaving, NYC won’t be tolerating his ass the second he’s out of power. And I hope he’s out of power before he actually gets in.

        • Bryan

          East Sanctuary baby.

  • Lazycrockett
    • NO MORE GOP!

      Good.

  • Realist_Indy

    As much as it pains me to say it, he might be right

  • SoCalGal20

    LOL Trump has already lost 5000 votes due to “reporting revisions” in WI (aka “Oops, they noticed we padded Trump’s vote in several precincts!”) before the recount has even started. This could get good.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      Fuck, everybody should think that a GOP Presidential win is suspect forever from now. Hell, I’d check on some of those damn GOP governors & Senate wins.

      • leastyebejudged

        lol, my sweet summer child, many of us have felt that way for 15 years.

    • Treant

      If he loses one state of the three, his “win” is completely tarnished. At that point, it’s wise to float the idea that the auditors simply didn’t catch the cheating in the other two…and there were still 47 other states that were unaudited…

  • Blake J Butler
    • leastyebejudged

      Who’s he talking to, everybody ? Is there any context to this ?

      You know, this has worked out really well for us so far, this blanket statement of racism kind of thing. Keep it up, at this rate we’ll have 8 years of Trump.

      Let me be clear. When you call someone a racist who is not, they are unlikely to ever forget it. And they are unlikely to ever trust you again.

      So enjoy what you’ve created with Trump, you’ve earned it.

      • MonochromeMouse

        If you voted for Trump you are racist, you also are ok with sexual assault. That is the only kind of person who voted for him, that is why he lost the popular vote by over 2 million and only won because the inbred racist hicks in flyover country, which for some reason gets to have the most say in an election despite having less population, liked the racist bullshit he fed them.

        • leastyebejudged

          No, you’re wrong. No wonder we lost.

          This is why we are destined to have Trump for 8 years.

          I bet even then you fucking retards that believe this bullshit STILL won’t have learned your lesson.

          Thanks for throwing away all our progress for the last 25 years.

          • Ernest Endevor

            Do grow up.

          • Robincho

            I try never to expect too much from someone who doesn”t know “least” from “lest”…

          • leastyebejudged

            Do die in a fire.

          • MonochromeMouse

            No, there is absolutely no excuse for supporting Trump after all of his heinous scandals came to light, particularly after that tape of him bragging about being able to sexually assault women because he is rich. Even if someone had such a huge problem with Hillary there were two other options for them to choose or if they were just lazy and stupid not vote at all. When they chose to vote for a neo-nazi hiring pussy grabber they showed what kind of person they really are.

          • leastyebejudged

            So you’re basically determined to destroy this country for the next 20 years in order to feel self righteous ?

            We have enough sociopaths already.

          • leastyebejudged

            Well, more than half of white women voted for Trump, if you people are going to insist on your little bullshit name calling you’re going to doom the DNC.

            I’m a bit stunned that you’re that stupid.

          • Kay

            “Even if someone had such a huge problem with Hillary there were two other options for them to choose or if they were just lazy and stupid not vote at all.”

            The two other “options” were Johnson, a guy who doesn’t believe in borders, supports the TPP, and private prisons, or Jill Stein, a crazy woman who doesn’t believe in vaccines.

            There were only two options, Hillary and Trump. Hillary was a horrible candidate, with more scandals than Trump, and the only political candidate I can think of that has more potential conflicts of interests, more foreign donors, more shady business deals than Trump.

          • leastyebejudged

            Tell that to over half the whie women who voted for Trump. You idiots are like a broken fucken record.

          • MonochromeMouse

            You keep replying to the same post with the same bullshit, without getting a response. So here’s one, made nice and big so you can read it: FUCK OFF!

          • leastyebejudged

            Lol, typical cowardly lying little weasel, lol.

          • Daveed_WOW

            Halloween is over, honey. Put the Troll costume away.

          • leastyebejudged

            Typical response from a cowardly little queen.

        • Kay

          “If you voted for Trump you are racist”

          Illegal is not a race.

          “you also are ok with sexual assault.”

          As opposed to Hillary who actually bullied victims of sexual assault, and got a child rapist off?

          “that is why he lost the popular vote by over 2 million”

          He wasn’t trying to win the popular vote, and a lot of people stayed home due to the electoral college. Had he tried to win the popular vote, he likely could have, but he would have spent his time campaigning in the most populated states, trying to flip Hillary voters in the largest number possible.

          Had he been that dumb, Hillary would be president.

          Winning the popular vote means nothing, as there are a lot of people who don’t bother voting at all, and neither candidate was trying to win the popular vote in the first place. Population centres tend to lean democrat anyway, so “winning” those generally (as a Democrat) means you have a pulse. That’s a good chunk of why we have the electoral college – to ensure that all states are representated, not just NY, CA, FL, and TX.

          • Daveed_WOW

            The Trolls out in full force!

          • CanuckDon

            “As opposed to Hillary who actually bullied victims of sexual assault, and got a child rapist off?”

            You just proved your shameless gullibility by believing in an obvious edited video. What other fake news did you grab excitedly to go along with your hatred of Hillary?

      • CottonBlimp

        You’re a sap, dude. You’re falling for an obvious lie cooked up to excuse racists, by the same kind of idiots who think America had pretty much solved racism before Obama made everything worse by talking about it.

        Fuck off with these bullshit excuses for why white America voted for neonazis and a rapist and narcissistic sociopath. None of those excuses excuse anything.

        • leastyebejudged

          You kind of sound like a sociopath to me. And very sheltered.

          • CottonBlimp

            I don’t think you know what “sociopath” means.

            And you sound like you’re 14.

        • leastyebejudged

          Over half of white women voted for Trump.

          So if your strategy is to alienate them further and keep them away from the Dems for as long as possible, keep up your bullshit.

          You must be seriously fuckin retarded.

      • Kay

        “Let me be clear. When you call someone a racist who is not, they are unlikely to ever forget it. And they are unlikely to ever trust you again.”

        Indeed. The same goes for misogyny.

        • leastyebejudged

          Point is, for all the idiot rage directed at potential allies HRC supporters squandered, over half the voting white women voted for Trump. So truly, fuck your fake mysogny claims.

          • Kay

            I’m not making misogyny claims. The left was. I was agreeing with you.

            A lot of people got fed up with every other comment out there about Trump supporters being fundamentalist christian gay-hating anti-women white nationalists.

            I’m lesbian, anti-religion, and Mexican, but that doesn’t stop people from trying to assume that the only reason I could support Trump is because I am secretly a white nationalist male who can’t accept a female president.

            I voted for Trump because I care about trade, guns, and immigration. Hillary was a vote for more of the same – her gender never entered the picture, even for a moment. If she were male, it wouldn’t have made any difference to most of us who voted against her.

            I’d say the same thing for a female Trump, but a female Trump wouldn’t be Trump anymore – his attitude is about as masculine as it’s possible to get.

      • Daveed_WOW

        “Let me be clear. When you call someone a racist who is not, they are
        unlikely to ever forget it. And they are unlikely to ever trust you
        again.”

        Spoken like a real asshole. Most racists will not admit their racism and will get very upset by it. Their opinion is irrelevant. Their actions speak.

        “So enjoy what you’ve created with Trump, you’ve earned it.”

        Those are the words of a classic abuser. Blaming the victim.

        • leastyebejudged

          Over half the white women voted for Trump. You and your little idiot buddies are proving yourselves unworthy of any trust.

      • vorpal

        I imagine that not everyone who voted for Trump is a racist: however, pretty sure that every racist who voted voted for Trump.

        A vote for Trump is a vote for racism, though.

    • vorpal
  • Friday

    Oh, shut up, Mr-The Election-Is-RIgged-I’ll-Keep-You-In-Suspense-Whether-I Call-For-Civil Disorder-If-That Fails….

    And you boast you wipe your arse with six million dollars and already spent as much public money on guarding yer *penthouse…* The people *haven’t* spoken if someone still ain’t counted what they said while you lost the popular vote and Republicans suppressed the vote as much as they could.

    Also money spent on the actual recounts are *not* ‘going into Jill Stein’s coffers’ so why don’t you wait a while before going full on hypocrite about what ain’t happened.

    • another_steve

      As usual, I totally agree with you.

      I particularly love you because of your usage of “arse” instead of “ass.”

      I consider that usage exotic and attractive.

      • Friday

        Hee, seems to have held over from some relatives, that. 🙂

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    I hate to be a bummer but how likely is it that if the election is flipped that DT would order the Army to keep him in power? And how likely is it that the Army would comply?

    • SoCalGal20

      I know the Air Force was (is?) controlled by nutjob Dominionists. I’m not sure what the situation with the Army is.

    • IamM

      1) The military swears allegiance to the constitution not any person.

      2) He’s not president until & unless the electoral college votes for him (Dec. 19) and he’s sworn in (Jan 20).

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        I know that they swear allegiance to the constitution but I”m worried about the batch that might be swearing to Jeebus in their heads over the constitution. I can only hope that most will fulfill their oaths and that even the few who intensely dislike Hillary will not want to go against their fellow military soldiers.

        • IamM

          It all boils down to the people. Laws have no power on their own, but I have a hard time believing the nutjobs have the critical mass needed to sustain a turn against their fellow soldiers and the citizens.

          • RoFaWh

            “Law cannot go where enforcement will not follow.”

    • tcinsf

      depends when the flip occurs. If it occurs before the deadline to choose electors (12/13) then they would be hard pressed to do anything.
      What I want to know is whether the individual governors and secretaries of state will ignore the recount and outdo that Florida thing that elected Shrub.

  • tcinsf

    I know it won’t happen .. but can you imagine if things flip on the recount because they discover either massive voter fraud or error? Think the pinheads screaming “we won, deal with it”are going to shut up and deal with it?
    Yeah, I know, I have the same chance of winning the lottery … but a guy can dream.

    • Moebym of the Rebel Alliance

      Nope. They’ll be rioting in the streets.

  • Cuberly

    OT: Sanity break….obviously not for everyone’s taste but I loves it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L54GYRcxSM

    • Lazycrockett

      Woosh

      • Cuberly

        lol…

    • safari

      TNG could have used a metal edge.

      • Cuberly

        That would be cool, most of the ST intros are anthem oriented. Would love to have heard more of an bite worked in.

    • another_steve

      I like it. And I tend to be old-fartish.

      It’s a nice blending of the (relatively) old and the new.

      • Cuberly

        The best reworkings tend to respect the original material. This guy really got it and hammered this out. Did a great job.

  • Canadian Observer

    I guess we better take his word for it…. cause one thing I am will to concede to him is that he is the MASTER of is stuffing his coffers with other people’s money – I heard he ghost wrote that best seller “The Art of the Scam”. Must be true, it’s on the internet now!

  • Face it, Donald, with more than 3 million votes separating you and would be President Clinton, your “win” is far from a voter mandate. Now we’re good show just what little edge you hold… maybe none!

  • T-Batwoman

    I think the definition of irony has arrived…….

    • safari

      Irony came and left inebriated.

      • Dazzer

        At least irony is still alive. In the words of international journalist David Frost (see film Frost/Nixon), satire died the day Henry Kissinger received the Nobel Peace Prize.

  • Toxic Trump really is vile lowlife subhuman scum.

    His supporters are lower than that.

  • Lazycrockett

    I’d like to see the average amount of the donations being made. Also how many individuals have made them.

    Should reach 6 million by tomorrow morning.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      You’d think some billionaire who loathes Trump would help fund the crap out of this.

      • Lazycrockett

        The Clinton’s getting Green Party emails till the day they die would be kinda funny.

  • JellyDonut

    it just cant be Trump It cant be

  • Lazycrockett
    • zhera

      WTF!

      • Lazycrockett

        I’m still questioning the legitimacy of the story. Sounds like its taken straight from The Onion.

  • RoFaWh

    More projection. You may be sure that Drumpf is, even now before his inauguration in late January, plotting and scheming to fill his own coffers with other people’s money, squeezed out of them by the tax system.

    Nobody really minds paying taxes (except for the people who already have way more money than they know what to do with), but when those taxes are being filched to fill a private citizen’s coffers it’s an entirely different situation.

    Prediction: by June 1, 2017 one of the following fates will have overtaken Drumpf:

    1. Death or total disability as the result of a heart attack or major stroke. (Drumpf is very fat and I doubt he even hears his doctor’s admonitions to stop eating so much greasy fast food.)

    2. Resignation because being President turns out to be too much work even when there’s a flunky like Pence to shoulder a lot of the burden.

    3. Impeachment because Drumpf will be unable to resist the urge to help himself to public monies.

  • So what are thinking happened?

    Election officials misreported results?
    Or outside interests hacked our systems and skewed the results? If so, who … and why? The Russians?

    • Ross

      All of the above.

      • I appreciate a sense of distrust and cynicism, but it would help to have something resembling facts to back up your implied allegations of corruption.

        A “gut feeling” isn’t helpful.

        Of course, anything’s possible, but I’m not a conspiracy theorist. I don’t think election officials are sophisticated enough to hack voting systems or have the influence to persuade others to do so. I also don’t think Russians who are capable of hacking these systems are going to expend their efforts doing so (when the immediate payoff is limited or unclear) when they could be doing something much more immediately profitable.

        • Ross

          I did not offer my “gut feeling”.

          1)

          In WI, where the recount has not even begun yet, it has been discovered that 5,000 Trump votes were added to the total. Added by an election person who liked Trump.

          This may not sound like a lot, but Trump only had a 27,000 vote lead in WI. Now it is down to 22,000. And there are still like 70 counties to check.

          2)

          From Clinton campaign lawyer Marc Erik Elias:

          “This election cycle was unique in the degree of foreign interference witnessed throughout the campaign: the U.S. government concluded that Russian state actors were behind the hacks of the Democratic National Committee and the personal email accounts of Hillary for America campaign officials, and just yesterday, the Washington Post reported that the Russian government was behind much of the “fake news” propaganda that circulated online in the closing weeks of the election.

          For all these reasons, we have quietly taken a number of steps in the last two weeks to rule in or out any possibility of outside interference in the vote tally in these critical battleground states.”

          3)

          HOW could every single credible pollster have been so wrong? This has never happened before.

          HOW could every single credible forecaster have been so wrong? This has never happened before.

          HOW could Hillary lose when she had so many demographic groups hugely favoring her?

          HOW could Hillary lose when early voting hugely favored her?

          HOW was this all possible? It makes no sense.

          But one explanation comes to mind which explains it all.

          Donald was at least right about one thing: The election would be rigged.

          But in his favor.

  • worstcultever

    I wish Joe would just put a cute animal picture on every story about Trump, rather than the ghastly creature Trump himself. We already know how depressingly hideous/toddleresque/etc he looks. CUTE ANIMAL PIX NAO

  • SoCalGal20

    I CAN’T. I cannot. FABIO was one of the guests.

    https://twitter.com/pagesix/status/802680149736984576

    Also, this bullshit. No subscription for you, Boston Globe.

    https://twitter.com/mviser/status/802668457586204672

    • Lazycrockett

      So was Adolph.

    • Ross

      Evil ages a person.

    • worstcultever

      Just waiting to find a wife to beat.

      Ted Bundy was fit, trim, good looking too.

  • Parque_Hundido

    And Jill Stein is the one and only hero of the 2016 election.

    Clinton and the Shillaries didn’t even have the guts to ask for a recount.

    • Sam_Handwich

      you must be new to politics, like Bernie and Stein

      • Parque_Hundido

        You must be new to reality, like Trump, the man you just elected.

    • Ross

      Yes, dear.

      • Parque_Hundido

        Good bitch.

        • Ross

          Yes, dear.

          • Parque_Hundido

            Speak bitch.

  • worstcultever

    Oh, fuck this world. Let’s have the adorable video of the wombat demanding attention and scritches from cute ginger guy

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbbtLAx6ohw

    • Sam_Handwich

      the wombat is cuter than the ginger. just sayin

      • Treant

        Just for being wombat-friendly, I’d do things with the ginger.

        Sex things.

        Dirty sex things.

        • RoFaWh

          Woody Allen was once asked if sex always had to be dirty.

          His answer: “Only if you’re doing it right.”

          • Treant

            Really dirty sex things.

      • worstcultever

        yep, hard to beat that wombat cuteness .. i like how the guy just gives up and succumbs to the charm, it makes him charming too

        • TuuxKabin

          it does.

    • bob

      I was reluctant to watch that. I kept thinking it was going to bite his face off! That said, would it have killed them to move the camera down to get a better view? lol

    • Dazzer

      I’m irredeemably in love with both of them.

    • tcinsf

      Well, if the election weren’t enough for me to renew my visa and catch the next plane to Oz, that was.

    • DumbHairyApe

      They weren’t kidding about the size of rats in NYC. He better wash his hands.

  • aar9n

    This is a reminder that if you spend the next four years questioning the legitimacy of the election that we mocked the idiot for saying was rigged, it will likely extend to 8 years. There is no evidence of foul play. Evil won, but legitimatly.
    If Hillary had won and conservatives were doing this we would be mocking them

    • Sam_Handwich

      still there is no precedent for a 2 million + popular vote loss

      there is NO Trump “mandate”, and this point must be voiced continuously.

      • Dazzer

        Very much so. But there has to be a committed campaign of ‘no mandate’ from the anti-Trump contingent of US activists.

        People have to ring in to radio stations, tweet and eail TV stations complaining whenever the lack of a mandate is fuzzed over.

        Conway’s strategy (and it is hers – no one else’s) is to kep on repeating that Republican control in the House and Senate and 39 Republican governors gives Trump a mandate.

        Time and again, it has to be thrown in her face that Trump doesn’t have the popular vote – and that the Democrats in the Senate received more votes than the Republicans. In no other democratic society does the party with the fewer votes have more representatives than the winners of the popular vote.

        These points will only start t hurt Trump and his team if Democrats and others keep on making these points at a local level and forcing them higher up the agenda so that media outposts have to pay attention to them.

        Otherwise, Conway is going to get away with her ‘Ooooo look… squirrel distractions’.

    • SoCalGal20

      Actually, there’s lots of evidence of foul play:

      1. Voter suppression efforts in multiple states including WI
      2. Russian interference, including propaganda efforts disseminating fake news stories. Also hacking the DNC and individual email accounts and feeding them to Wikileaks
      3. Evidence of shenanigans in multiple WI precincts with Drumpf, and ONLY Drumpf, having his vote totals padded.

    • Lazycrockett

      No harm, no foul. It’s not costing the taxpayers a dime, and it shines a much need light into the election process. I think its a great idea to see how well or if democracy works in this country.

      • Sam_Handwich

        i really question Stein’s Trump/Russia dalliances. maybe this is all to say “Look, we had a recount, and everything is fine!”

        • Treant

          I think that’s why the Clinton campaign’s lawyers are now involved. While Jill might not be so inclined, they’ll want to keep things on the up and up.

          • Lazycrockett

            Honestly I would like to see recounting taking place through out the country on the regular.

          • Treant

            Me, too. Pick random districts within a state and recount them post-election. If any problems show up–anything at all–that recount expands.

        • Lazycrockett

          I highly doubt that any results will change the election at this point, but it does answer the questions that people have about electronic ballots as well as absentee and such. Even if Stein is asking for the recount it’s the county officials that will be doing the auditing under the watchful eyes of lawyers and such. I don’t see anyway Russia benefits from this.

          • Sam_Handwich

            When it’s time to petition the court to invalidate certain votes, the GOP will have lawyers in 72 counties bringing all the stupid actions.

            The ground game in an election recount is in court.

            And if it benefits Trump/GOP then it benefits Putin.

    • Ross

      In WI, where the recount has not even begun yet, it has been discovered that 5,000 Trump votes were added to the total.

      5,000 votes which did not exist. They were added by an election person who liked Trump.

      This may not sound like a lot, but Trump only had a 27,000 vote lead in WI. Now it is down to 22,000. And there are still like 70 counties to check.

    • zhera

      No evidence of foul play?

      What’s the weather like in your dimension?

      • djcoastermark

        Foggy, very foggy, I’ve heard.

  • Sam_Handwich

    Jimmy Carter monitored a number of overseas elections in his post-presidency. I don’t think we’ve heard a peep from him in months. Wondering if he might be sick again.

    • fuzzybits

      Lets hope he’s doing fine.

    • Lazycrockett

      Last I heard he got the all clear this summer. I know that Rosalyn campaigned in Ga in October.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      I don’t want him to be part of the 2016 curse.

  • JCF

    Grift or recount? I think it’s probably BOTH.

    • fuzzybits

      As long as it gets under Donnie’s thin skin.

      • The Return of Traxley

        If it hasn’t already, it will.

    • Lazycrockett

      As its been pointed out the Green Party gets a lot of emails and information so I think there is part of building the party in the mix, but I don’t see a crash grab as of yet. Now if WI stays Drumpf then maybe they will cancel the Mi and Pa recounts, then its a con. If they go that route the GP loses all credit it was just trying to establish.

      • SoCalGal20

        The PA and MI deadlines are before WI will be finished with the recount.

        • Lazycrockett

          Will this shit be done before the EC vote?

          • SoCalGal20

            Well…we’ll see! WI has to handcount over 2 million votes. But they can’t certify until the recount is done. I think they have a deadline of Dec. 13 for that? So I don’t know what happens if they can’t meet the deadline.

  • fuzzybits

    Thanks goodness Ms. Jones is still with us. This was in Aug. and she’s 68! Go Grace, https://youtu.be/Bo9ZhlIFpLE

    • Lazycrockett

      Honey I wouldn’t be out there trying to make 2016 pissy. She still has over a month to do damage.

      • fuzzybits

        Grace is Grace.

        • Lazycrockett

          and the grim reaper comes for us all.

          • fuzzybits

            Yep.

          • The Return of Traxley

            There are rules.

      • tcinsf

        I dunno, if ever that old adage about heaven not wanting someone and the devil being afraid….

    • tcinsf

      Saw her a in September at the Berkeley theater … normally a good place to see a concert but they have a curfew and they cut the power right in the middle of this song. I mean, really, who books Miss Grace Jones and expects her to be on time?

      • TuuxKabin

        Bezerkeley Community Theatre? Fools. They’re lucky she didn’t go all Demolition Man, or Corporate Cannibal on them.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgMn2OJmx3w

        • tcinsf

          Actually the Greek. It’s outdoors, nice place … but they have a deal with the neighbors that the music stops at a certain hour.

          • TuuxKabin

            Harumpf. Yeah, the Greek is a great outdoor spot for a concert or play.

  • Grant Low

    They love to bring up the county bit. Because Loving County, TX, population 95 apparently counts equally with San Francisco county, pop 864,000. They want a one acre, one vote standard.

    • Moebym of the Rebel Alliance

      Those massive counties in Nevada and Alaska voted for him. Mandate!!!11!11!1

  • Paula

    When Donnie said it was a scam, he was looking into a mirror.

    • Ross

      Oh! You wrote scam!

      i thought you wrote scum.

      • Treant

        Scam, scum, scat, scuz. They all work.

  • andrew

    Trump may be right about Stein’s motivations, but what interested me most was that in his recounting of the election statistics, he glaringly failed to mention that Hillary beat him by over 2,000,000 popular votes.

    • Ross

      2.2 million. And counting.

      • OdieDenCO

        and recounting.

  • SoCalGal20

    OT but we’re getting RAIN (and snow!) in SoCal! The second time in a week! It’s nowhere near what we need to break the drought but it’s SOMETHING. Fingers crossed we’ll get some more soon.

    • fuzzybits

      Any time I hear you guys are getting rain,it just feels good.

      • TuuxKabin

        Exacto.

    • tcinsf

      Kiddo, up here we done smashed through the drought. It’s wet as frack up here.

      • SoCalGal20

        Good! Now send more rain our way. We’re still way low, though the storms last weekend and this weekend are helping!

  • cleos_mom

    He said the election would be rigged — didn’t say by who.

    We should take il Douche at his word. Just recommending being a cooperative citizen here.

  • Charlie

    and this, is a man who knows a scam…

  • Michael R

    I’m going to end the day posting a random image
    I found while looking for something else …

    https://s16.postimg.org/vnm8kgjg5/cat_kittens_feeding.jpg

  • SoCalGal20

    Ok I’m sitting in this Barnes & Noble and they’ve played songs from The Little Mermaid, Pocahontas, and now Beauty & the Beast. 🙂

  • LuvUrLivr

    Silent majority, what say you?

    • Bryan

      Burn the lich?

      • Treant

        You have to discover their phylactery or it won’t work.

        • Bryan

          I said as much to mom the other day. Once Upon A Time has to off Robert Carlyle’s Rumpelstiltskin because he’s become a magic horcrux slash phylactery for Donald Trump.

          I kid of course.

  • SoCalGal20

    Wel, I for one, am relieved to know Betsy DeVos was not Drumpf’s first choice for Secretary of Education. /s It was Jerry Falwell Jr.

    https://twitter.com/mikeallen/status/802705140528582656

    • fuzzybits

      Geez,no Franklin Graham?

      • SoCalGal20

        I guess not. Or maybe he has other plans for him.

        • fuzzybits

          Dept. of raiding old ladies purses.

      • Bryan

        Pretty sure he thinks Franklin Graham is a cereal…

  • Bryan

    Let the un-Trumpening of our country BEGIN!!!!

  • SoCalGal20

    A graphical representation of just how weighted and disproportionate the Electoral College is. CA’s position will move down as more votes are counted.

    https://twitter.com/tbonier/status/802708635008856065

  • SoCalGal20

    Hahaha well played Google Maps. Look up Trump Tower in NYC and see what the pin is named.

    https://twitter.com/buzzfeednews/status/802686271021645824

    • DaddyRay

      That is awesome

    • Bryan

      Spot on Google, Spot on. So in the spirit of superheros, if Bart is El Barto, you would be El Goog-o?

      I might need work on the nickname. And the puns.

  • SoCalGal20
    • Bryan

      FWEEEEE I have backyard coons where I live, a family that’s come to see us almost every night generation to generation for over ten years. Occasionally we get a nearby possum but he hasn’t been out there awhile – it was a shame cause he stayed far past the usual 3 days or so before they move on, he was comin’ for months.

      • SoCalGal20

        I’ve only ever seen one raccoon at at time. When I lived in Pasadena we had a huge mother skunk with babies. The indoor cat did not know what to do when she would see them outside lol. The babies were adorable. And luckily mama skunk never had to defend herself near our house.

        • Bryan

          we had them too, several generations, lived under the house I think. Cute as hell as babies, more foofy tail than body.

          • SoCalGal20

            The babies are so adorable. They look just like the adults but little! Some neighbors of my cousin raised a litter of baby skunks one year because the mom died (I think she got hit by a car). They were SO cute. And their scent glands don’t work before a certain age so there’s no harm in handling them when they’re young. So she hand raised them until they were big enough and then gave them over to our local vet so they could be given a permanent home.

          • Robincho

            Raccoons. Come for the cute babies, but make sure you stay for your scissored carotid artery and the horrors of your hideous death from hydrophobia…

          • Bryan

            Ours just came out at night and kept up til our duplex-neighbor made us run ’em off. I remember we’d gotten ’em tame enough that one generation one of the babe’s was eating out of the food bowl and as a joke I lifted it up and brought it inside, skunk and all. Set it on the floor just in side to see how long it’d take to react. Paid no attention, just kept eating- looked up, looked around, realized it was in the house and kinda saunters back out.

        • TuuxKabin
          • SoCalGal20

            Raccoons are certainly resourceful! Luckily I’ve never lived anywhere where they’ve been a major nuisance.

    • Lazycrockett

      They have obviously raped and killed a white girl so they need to die.

    • safari

      Just step away. Their physical features say “pet me”. Their demeanor says “I’ll grab you by the neck and use my back legs to scratch into your heart.” /midwestener

  • DaddyRay

    Well thanks Donnie for getting me behind Stein’s recount effort, I was on the fence before but now I fully support it because it gets under your skin (which as we know isn’t very difficult to do)

  • SoCalGal20

    Apparently Drumpf’s favorite musical is Evita.

    https://twitter.com/slate/status/802712682604412929

  • safari

    Christmas tree up and decorated. Charlie Brown Christmas playing. And I’m home from my parents’ Thanksgiving, which gave me only a couple flashbacks to less happy times. The rest of the time went quite well, considering. It is a good night.

    • DaddyRay

      Tree is up, lights are on, star is on – just need to break out the ornaments

    • Treant

      No tree this year, we just wired up the hibiscus. And set up the 2′ fake tree in the dining room, but that’s trivial. Plus I wired a very short schefflera in the living room.

      • safari

        I decided to live dangerously and use my “old” c7 (medium size) incandescent bulbs. I can feel my electric bill go up simply because the tree is acting like a space heater.

        • Treant

          I haven’t seen those in years! Most of my stuff is the mini lights. The 2′ pine is done in LED rice lights (4 watts, bright as hell).

        • The Return of Traxley

          Wow. At least you’re not going with c9s. I tried that one year and I actually had to knock the thermostat back a couple of degrees. I used them outside the next year.

      • djcoastermark

        Eek, it sounds evil what you have done to that poor Hibiscus. And wiring up a short to a schefflera, inhumane!

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        Ha, we too have been wiring up the hibiscus for 8 years

        • Treant

          It’s nice, isn’t it? Although I do notice that the plants respond by growing at incredible rates of speed.

    • djcoastermark

      you can never go wrong listening to Vince Guaraldi.

      • safari

        Soothing

        • djcoastermark

          After listening to the Charlie Brown Christmas I usually put on a master recording of Dave Brubek’s “Take Five “followed by Wes Montgomery’s “Boppin On Sunset”. Makes for a well rounded evening at home

          • safari

            I just try to learn from people who know better than I what constitutes a well rounded evening. 😉

          • djcoastermark

            Another good one by Wes Montgomery is “Bumpin” Great music to chill by.

    • jutta

      Maybe a stupid question from the other side of the pond: Is usual to put up a Christmas tree at home up at the end of November?

      Here (Austria) Christmas trees aren’t sold before December 15th and we usually decorate them on the 23rd or 24th of December. In shopping malls and on public places there are decorated Christmas trees (real fir or pine and plastik) from approximately last week of November, in some places (eg furniture stores) even *very* earlier.

      At home we use other Christmas/Advent decoration before Christmas, like Advent reefs (sp?), candles, branches of fir or pine, etc.

      • The Return of Traxley

        It depends on the family.

        Many families on my street had their trees up and lit on Friday. Christmas trees and trimmings are already selling fast.

        My family, however, didn’t decorate until the middle of December. We left everything up until the New Year.

        I won’t decorate this year. After spending years managing retail stores, I am desensitized to the frenzy. Also, my mother died two years ago in early December surronded by twinkling lights and Christmas carols. It only brings sadness.

  • SoCalGal20

    Oh good. Now Trump is going to tweet about the recount for the next week or more.

    https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/802723588759375873

    • Bryan

      Putting it in everyone’s minds, and convincing more people to contribute to the effort.

      • DaddyRay
        • Bryan

          Even higher than when I looked at it before! It’s not comin in in droves like it was but it’s still making about 450-500k a day. MORE than enough to reach 7 by Wednesday, and whatever’s left someone else can cough up.

          • Dazzer

            Believe me on this. If non-Americans were allowed to donate to the recount policy, Stein would be resting on a warchest of about $5billion by now and rising.

          • DaddyRay

            Interesting – didn’t think about that angle, I am guessing you are right

          • safari

            Considering the post-WW2 agreements Donald’s cabal are attempting to either negate or rewrite, $5bn would be cheaper than what may come.

    • DaddyRay

      You may want to talk to McCrory Donald – I don’t think he realizes he is a Democrat

    • Treant

      If he’s complaining, there’s definitely a reason he wants to divert attention and discredit the recount effort.

      • safari

        It’d at the very least put Clinton’s 2.2 million vote lead in the news for a cycle?

    • bob

      I seldom use twitter , but felt that needed a response !

      https://twitter.com/boobert54/status/802730027548897280

      • David L. Caster

        Actually, he effectively said just that: he would accept the results of the election if he won.

    • DumbHairyApe

      Donald Trump TOLD us very clearly that the election was RIGGED. He wanted us to “believe him”. We have to have someone looking into it.

      • SoCalGal20

        Exactly! It’s his own fault.

    • Cuberly

      NO way he knows the word “tabulation”. This is Con-Way wrestling the phone out of his hands.

      • SoCalGal20

        Maybe she just helped him edit.

        • safari

          Doubtful. I see a comma and dependent clauses. This is not the work of Donald.

          • SoCalGal20

            Point.

          • Bryan

            Definitely too erudite.

        • Cuberly

          Heh…insert Star Trek fight music here…lol….

  • DumbHairyApe

    But wait, he TOLD us that the election was RIGGED. Now we have to trust Trump and believe him at his best words and we have to get someone looking into it…

  • Gayer Than Thou

    Yeah, probably it is. But fuck him.

  • BlindBill

    Scamy McScamScam always accuses others of doing exactly what his old fat ugly bad comb-over on a bald-headed lying self is doing …..

  • Frostbite

    But didn’t Trump run just to fill his coffers with money?

  • Bad Tom

    Trump should know about ridiculous scams filling coffers with money!

  • Lazycrockett
    • DaddyRay

      With each passing million it has to be working a number on Donnie’s ego – he still thinks everyone loves him

      • Lazycrockett

        and it also keeps Jill to her promise.

        • David L. Caster

          She needs to have the cash by Monday to file for the recount in Pennsylvania and by Wednesday for Michigan plus whatever is needed for attorney’s fees. Wisconsin is on and there will be attorney’s fees for that too.

      • Bryan

        I love it, it’s already so close to the mark there’s no way we either won’t reach it in 4 days, or barring that someone won’t pony up the difference. Take a breath y’all, we just helped maybe save democracy. Then getcha armor on, cos’ there’s about to be a WHOLLLLEEE slew of pissed off right-wingers with guns screaming that we stole the election. We’ve a war to win, and this army don’t give a flying fuck what you look like what you believe or who you love, we’re all in this shit together.

    • bob

      He may scream about the money, but in reality the security for his thanksgiving cost taxpayers over 7 mil.

    • Bryan

      We got it! The minigoal, won!

  • Pearlrwilson

    Google is paying 97$ per hour! Work for few hours and have longer with friends & family! !mj65d:
    On tuesday I got a great new Land Rover Range Rover from having earned $8752 this last four weeks.. Its the most-financialy rewarding I’ve had.. It sounds unbelievable but you wont forgive yourself if you don’t check it
    !mj65d:
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  • RemusL

    Trump: “This is a scam and believe me, I know scams. I have the best scams, the yuuugest scams. Plus I know all about coffers of money.”

    #TrumpKnowsScams
    #TrumpCoffersofMoney

  • Stev84

    He probably isn’t entirely wrong, but wow, major hypocrisy alert there

  • Sam_Handwich
    • The Return of Traxley

      This has gotten under his skin bigly.

      Good.

    • OdieDenCO

      We The People have not conceded.

      • Silver Badger

        And never will.

        • Dreaming Vertebrate

          #NotMyPresident!

          • Silver Badger

            Time to dust off Gandhi’s work on passive resistance.

    • LaChatSayWha

      The man baby is SCARED!

      But damn, what happens after January when some criticism triggers a freak out and he’s sitting there with the nuclear codes?

      There’s been a lot of predictable criticism of the Democratic Party for the mistakes they made over the course of the election, much of it deserved. But where’s the unflinching examination of the Republican Party’s acceptance and ultimate support of drumpf? Where’s the outrage at what they’ve introduced into our society? They have put our democracy, our lives and our planet at stake! And I’m horrified to realize that I’m not exaggerating in the least.

      It seems to me that the Republican Party must answer for the crime they’re perpetrating against our American democracy. They know how bad he is: he’s one of them, no matter how much establishment Rethugs disparage him in private. But who will call them on their moral bankruptcy?

  • OdieDenCO

    just to be sure donny, let’s put a hold on all presidents enter office, until we know exactly what’s going on.

  • JNK

    Finally, something I agree with the Orange Buffoon about. Jill spent the whole campaign blasting Hillary and did say on several occasions that Trump was the better choice of the 2. Now she is feigning concern with this money beg. F**k her.

    • Ross

      I loath Jill.

      And I am thrilled about the recount.

  • greenmanTN

    So says the biggest Snake Oil salesman in the country.

  • kladinvt

    Considering that ahead of the recount, one county, Outagamie, revised their vote totals for Trump downwards by 5000 votes, what other anomolies will surface there, in PA and MI?

    • Silver Badger

      Many

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    >> Just A Scam For The Green Party To “Fill Their Coffers With Money”
    Fun Fact: Coffer is derived from the Greek kophinos which means basket.
    It’s deplorable Jill is filling her baskets with money!

  • Rebecca Gardner
  • Rebecca Gardner

    OT – Watching Southwest of Salem.https://tribecafilm.com/filmguide/southwest-of-salem-the-story-of-the-san-antonio-four-2016

    The documentary about how these women were railroaded into prison. They used the fact that they were lesbians to prosecute them. I’m so very angry but it reminded me of something very important. Never talk to the Police. Never!

    https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE

    • Silver Badger

      We have the right to remain silent. A word of advice, never ask a cop how much they have to pay their wife for sex. They have no sense of humor whatsoever.

    • Jerry Kott

      Thank you-very, very important to see.
      My partner and I have been dealing with Law Enforcement on many levels for years. Years ago, when we had to visit the police station to fill out a crime report, prior to filling out the report, WE, the victims, were read the Miranda Act by the police. When we were meeting in the office with the Assistant DA assigned our case after the Magistrate bound it over to Criminal Court, we clearly knew that she was NOT our ally. We got the impression she was trying to lead us down the Garden Path-to complete her thoughts. She said “I would have killed this guy if he did this to me” then a pause and she also asked us if we saw the movie “Powder” giving us an odd glance when asking that question.
      Keep your ears to the ground and trust your gut.

  • JDS

    How about a little fire Scarecrow. 🙂

  • TuuxKabin

    Okay, I’ll let Aretha say it for me. I’m heading cross town to Joe’s place whle waiting for this morning’s post:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZJxWWns5vk

    • Treant

      Sunday morning happy naked fun time? 🙂

      • TuuxKabin

        Saw him entering his building with bag of cat litter and shopping bag from local pet store. So at least Shelly’s taken care of. As for that Sunday morning nekid part . . . he had his clothes on. Lookin’ good!

  • Silver Badger

    Just deleted my yahoo account. Don’t want to be associated with a hate site.

  • IamM
    • Silver Badger

      Excellant.

    • Treant

      Good. Hopefully every time he loses a vote in any of the three states, somebody will Tweet him about it.

      “One more person doesn’t like you in Wisconsin.”

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      I think we should hold unto these to show the GOP voters in our lives what a fracking tomato-skinned loser they voted for.

      It’s impossible to respect anybody who SEES the kind of Twittering he does and is OK with having voted for him. And that’s not EVEN touching the racism/sexism/cronyism he’s perpetrating.

    • Bryan

      Oh dear, somebody’s got themselves one helluva tell. Now that I think about it, how about we just get a skilled card player and have him play for the country. He’d choke 3 hands in if he made it that far. Sorry tech-guys, Trumbot failed…. it still won’t lie believably and Deception.exe was a complete bust. I’m afraid we’re going to have to scrap him AND your evil protocompany and throw you all in a volcano.

      …and I guess we can…I dunno, sacrifice a virgin too just to be safe. Kellyanne, get your ass in there with him. No honey, we all know nobody’ll touch you after your Faces of Meth routine. No, we now it’s been like that since you were born. Yes Kellyanne, we know what you did in high school and beyond for a few hits of it…no, Kellyanne, that doesn’t constitute sex, you still count as a virgin in the sacrificial sense.

  • MattPS

    He tries so hard to distract us, making it all about Jill Stein (who as he so pointedly notes won less than 1% of the vote.) And yes, Donald, she’s ONLY doing this to line her own pockets, since we all know that the only thing that motivates you–and, you assume, everyone else–is money.

    “The people have spoken”. Indeed they have, and over two million more of them voted for Hillary, and NOT for you. So suck on that!

  • MaryOGrady

    How did dear Jon Stewart put it? “Something hit a Fuckface Von Nervestick.”

  • DaddyRay

    Bernie Sanders Gets Frustrated With CNN Host’s Election Recount Questions
    The Vermont senator wanted to talk about holding Donald Trump accountable.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-frustrated-with-cnn-host_us_583ae6b5e4b01ba68ac4cdd5

    “The Green Party has the legal right. Republicans have requested ― I think the governor of North Carolina right now is thinking about doing a recount,” he continued.

    “That’s a legal right. They do it. I don’t think that Hillary Clinton, who got 2 million more votes than Mr. Trump in the popular election, said it’s going to transform the election,” he concluded. “But do people have the legal right to do it? Yeah, we do.”

    • Treant

      I don’t see why he was getting frustrated? It is, indeed, topical, people obviously do care enough to discuss it (like here and DKos), and care enough to donate millions of dollars to the effort.

      No, I don’t expect anything to change. But given the discrepancies between exit polls and vote totals, it seems like an excellent idea to check. Now, given WI election officials changing vote totals and shedding Trump votes by the thousands, it seems like an extremely good idea to cross check.

      • BobSF_94117

        He’s probably frustrated because pols have grown accustomed to appearing on these shows to say what THEY want to say. Happens on Fox more than other places, but the “journalists” are usually more than happy to accommodate.

        • Treant

          Could be, but one has to expect questions from the interviewer. That happens on every show.

          As I think about it. he does seem to get annoyed when anybody asks him anything that’s not on the short list of things he likes to talk about.

  • TimCA

    O/T: Jerry Falwell, Jr. of Liberty University fame was reportedly offered the Secretary of Education before DeVos but Falwell turned it down.

    http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/us-politics/ct-falwell-trump-education-secretary-20161126-story.html

    • DaddyRay

      I don’t know which pick would be worse – both are bottom of the barrel

  • billbear1961

    Nervous, are you, you goddamned SCAM ARTIST?!

    What is the presidency for you but a chance to FILL YOUR POCKETS?!

    Yes, the people have spoken, and they chose Hillary over you by MORE than two MILLION votes, and counting!!

    Crook, liar, hatemonger, LOSER!!

  • billbear1961

    limping “waltz” for the stunned Republic . . .

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvEzdij0dlk

  • JellyDonut

    Its on! Trump will now have a twitter war with Stein. Gee how presidential.

    • Bryan

      Oh boy am I missing something fun?

      • TrollopeReader

        not in that playpen !!

  • Gigi

    A scam that Trump wishes he’d thought of first.

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