NORTH CAROLINA: Voting Rights Group Files Challenge To Right Wing Group Contesting Voter Verifications

The Associated Press reports:

Voting-rights advocates have joined the legal wrangling over the counting of votes in North Carolina’s close governor’s contest. Lawyers from Southern Coalition for Social Justice asked a federal judge late Wednesday to reject a lawsuit questioning the verification of voters who used same-day registration to cast ballots. The filing was done by some of the same lawyers and advocates who successfully sued to overturn parts of a wide-ranging elections law enacted by Republicans in the General Assembly. They’re opposing a lawsuit filed this week by the conservative Civitas Institute. Civitas says the state cannot finish counting votes until it verifies addresses of voters who used same-day registration. A hearing is scheduled next week. Unofficial statewide results show Democrat Roy Cooper leading Republican Gov. Pat McCrory by about 7,700 votes.

Citivas is primarily funded by the family of a top aide to McCrory. On Tuesday, McCrory filled for a full recount of all 4.5 million votes. Such a move is permitted if the margin is fewer than 10,000 votes.

  • Paula

    This isn’t going to end until McCrory is declared the winner of the election.

    • OdieDenCO

      so much for that peaceful transfer of power thingy

      • Kay

        If there is fraud, it should be stopped.

        • SelectFromWhere

          Even if every single vote that might be fraudulent was for his opponent, it’s not enough to cover the vote margin, unless they blatantly throw out legitimate votes. The whole thing about same-day registration is something they already tried to stop, and courts overruled it. Bring it up again if they want, but you can’t do it retroactively and invalidate registrations/votes that were legally cast at the time.

          • Kay

            If we are outside the margin of error, then you are right – there’s little point to a recount for the sake of a recount.

            Declare the results, then do an audit to look for fraud after the fact.

  • S1AMER

    This will end soon, after the Right Wing Extremists have gathered enough “evidence” of “voter fraud” in North Carolina to use in writing even more restrictions into voting when the legislature comes back next year.

    Cooper will be governor. But the Republicans will still have veto-proof majorities in both houses, so they can write whatever laws they wish. (And if they succeed in packing the state supreme court, they’ll have a rubber stamp there.)

    I’m not sure how McCrofy gets paid off for all his hard work in keeping this going, but I’ll bet it will be something super special!

    • canoebum

      A seat on the Board of Directors of Duke Energy. A virtual no-show job that pays millions.

    • perversatile

      ”I’m not sure how McCrory gets paid off for all his hard work in keeping
      this going, but I’ll bet it will be something super special!”

      -Oh Pat my dear boy, you must come down to the cellar
      and try this marvelous old sherry, a toast to your success.

      -But you must, it’s a rare and costly Amontillado,
      A truly just reward for your efforts.

      -Yes now follow me closely it’s a long way down.

      -Be a love and hold my trowel and chisel.

      • Robincho

        “For the love of God, Montresor!”

        Lunch is on me today. Howzabout a nice Poe boy?…

        • perversatile

          I’m just a Poe boy, and nobody loves me.

          • Robincho

            Scaramouche, Scaramouche, can you do the fan-dan-go?…

  • Bj Lincoln

    Damn the GOP are horrible losers and winners. If he winds up winning for some reason, I pity the people of NC. I can only imagine the hell he will rain down on them.

    • Chucktech

      One can only hope that if that comes to pass, North Carolina has seen its last professional or college basketball tournament, let alone all the other lost business and revenue they’ve been suffering.

      • Bryan

        if he stays in it’ll be Mad Max within 2 years. It’ll be South Carolina and the North-Southern State of McRory…..ow, I think I made my head hurt.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      You know what I truly hate is the whole fucking “IOKIYAR” bullshit. All the shit the GOP has been doing should have made them illegitimate with everybody.

      • Grumpy Old Man

        I can never remember what those 7-10 letter acronyms are so here is mine:

        I YQ YQ R

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    • FAEN

      We’ve been living with his brand of stupid for long enough. Cooper better not cave to this Art Pope/Duke Energy owned asshole.

    • SelectFromWhere

      I’m one of those people of NC and you got that right. He was a very weak governor in the first place, out of his league, and a puppet to the super Right-wing legislature. He had already lost the race once, in 2008. But like so many politicians, the office went to his head and now he thinks he is Teflon. In fact, legislative leaders bully him around, which is how he signed that ridiculous and discriminatory HB2 bill with its kitchen sink full of prohibitions on various things, than later basically admit that he had signed without reading the whole thing when he slipped out comments like “I probably wouldn’t have signed that part”.

      Total tool; his wife doesn’t even live with him in the Governor’s mansion. He knows his goose is cooked but can’t accept losing, even though many/most statewide offices went Republican (i.e. he got fewer votes than almost every other republican, so he can’t exactly call it “Democratic rigging”).

      The will be a REVOLT if that gang of crooks find a way to slip him in.

  • Tiger Quinn

    See Democrats, you don’t HAVE to be doormats that concede for the good of the people. You can sue, too!

  • rednekokie

    The South should have won the civil war — and then gone on to its own demise.
    At least they would shut up about decent things.

    • Paula

      I don’t know that they would have survived as a nation, either. I am a firm believer that the North was way too lenient to the South after the war.
      If they had been, I don’t believe that we would have the South that we have today.

      • TrollopeReader

        Where is Sherman on these pages? He needs to do another “visit” to the South.

      • The South bitches that the North was too aggressive by doing general military tactics (burning Savannah is something any general that wanted to win would have done). If the North had just been as aggressive as the South imagine them to be, we’d probably don’t have to worry about Jim Crow creeping back up.

        • Bj Lincoln

          I agree with you for the most part. The North did have some real crazy generals though. From one who didn’t fight to Sherman who was out of his mind.

      • boatboy_srq

        The Confederacy would have fractured inside ten years, much as the pre-Constitution United States threatened to do and for mainly the same reasons. The subsequent interstate warfare (over resources, trade routes, and whoever looked at whoever-else’s daughter/property wrong) would have consumed them, especially as cotton and tobacco output were each poised to crater from bad farming practices. And from the look of things, the atrocities the individual Confederate states would have inflicted on each other would make the Civil War seem tame by comparison.

        On second thought, that doesn’t seem like such a bad thing…

      • the problem was that far too many northerners felt that blacks were inferior and shared the view that black people shouldn’t have any real political power or influence, anywhere. they may have been patriots to the Union and offered up their sons and daughters in the war, but still racist.

      • Jerry

        It was the 1876 election…Tilden won both the popular vote and was leading the Electoral College, but a deal was struck with several southern states giving their electoral votes to Hayes if they would prematurely end Reconstruction.

        And as for the South falling apart as a nation, their “States Rights” was one of the leading causes for losing the war…many times their national government needed additional appropriations of taxes, men, materials, and passed appropriate legislation, but many states refused a national dictate saying that it was the right of the individual states, not their federal government.

    • SelectFromWhere

      McCrory is actually a Northerner, from Ohio. His Democratic opponent who is about to be the new governor is a lifelong North Carolinian. This isn’t about geography.

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    This shit just makes me more and more of a proponent of Coastexit.

  • David Walker

    As Margaret Cho once said, “You go, girl. No, I mean you go girl. Go!”

    • JWC

      awful tired of this whinny little bitch He was wrong about HB 2 and just won’t quit In some areanas that is tenacity in this one ridiculous

      • SelectFromWhere

        He only won by a fluke anyway–NC is had Democratic governors for most of our history since 1900 or so, and the two previous Republicans we did have were moderates and worked well across the aisle. McCrory ran in that model and immediately got lurched to the right by a frenzied bunch of foaming radicals, but he has now adopted that stance which makes him but insincere and contradictory. And the best part is, the city where he lives, Charlotte, is the city he has screwed over the most. They are liable to tar and feather him there. Maybe he’ll move back to Ohio where he’s from in the first place (sorry, Ohio).

        • Cboulder

          Freaking carpet-bagger

          • JWC

            little kids in a sANDBOX

  • bkmn

    NC is essential in any presidential election and the GOP will do whatever they can to make voting impossible for likely Democrat voters.

    • Ninja0980

      Yup and if Cooper controls the governor’s mansion, that means the BOE will be Democratic, which means no closing of voting sites or polling sites.

      • justme

        And he could possibly roll back ALL of the voter suppression and change the districts if there in 2020..

        • SelectFromWhere

          This is why it’s so important to get him in. And unfortunately I don’t think he could roll back ALL voter suppression, because the legislature has veto-proof majorities in both houses, but he can certainly make headway, especially having the BOEs in Democratic hands.

    • Librarykid

      There is light at the end of that tunnel. A federal judge ruled that Wisconsin’s reapportionment was clearly done to strengthen Republicans and weaken Democrats. If it goes to the Supreme Court, Kennedy has voiced support for eliminating reapportionment that benefits one party or another so it could be a 5-3 decision setting a national precedent.

      • thatotherjean

        Welp, there goes Maryland. We’re gerrymandered all to hell in favor of the Democrats–possibly the only state that is. It would be well worth the fight to keep the state blue, though, if Republican-owned states had to reapportion their districts more fairly.

  • TrollopeReader

    Pat … you are yours are going to be shunned no matter what you do. Just leave. Go. In. Peace.

    • Mikey

      oh my god! I always thought the expression was “Go and piss!”

      • Librarykid

        Ite missa est.

      • SelectFromWhere

        Just make sure you do it in the correct bathroom….

  • ericpayne

    If McRory can convince the state board of electors the vote is “contested,” North Carolina has in place a law that says the Legislature can declare the winner of the contest, and that the Legislature’s decision is not reviewable by Courts.

    My bet is the Legislature is going to name McRory the victor of a ‘contested election” and that, prior to inauguration day, the courts of North Carolina are going to decide if any law passed by a legislature can be “not reviewable.”

    • “its good to be king”

    • Bryan

      Can you imagine the economic fallout? North Carolina won’t exist by 2018.

    • SelectFromWhere

      There is talk of the potential for this, but supposedly even the crazed right-wing Speaker of the NC House is not keen on doing this–he KNOWS there’d be a revolt like none ever seen before.

  • justme

    And if the courts decide to review those votes little Pattie has thrown out??
    Wonder if there would be some Presidential votes NOT counted???

    • SelectFromWhere

      There aren’t enough to matter, but it would be funny if some other races flipped to Democrats in the recount. However, I actually think if a recount is not called for a specific race, then even if that happened, it wouldn’t count because that race would not be what was being “recounted”.

  • Shy Guy

    Every time I see that picture of McCrory, I think of this:
    “Oh, my old governorship. I should very much like to hold it one last time!”

    • JCF

      Well done!

  • Richard B

    The North Carolina Republican Party can only win by suppressing the vote or cheating.
    The majority of registered voters are not Republican.
    The North Carolina Republican is a particularly nasty lot and will not play fair till they win.
    Will we let them steal the election?

    • fuow

      Probably. My party has once again shown itself to be spineless and balls-less.

    • SelectFromWhere

      Everything you say is true–they are the crookedest bunch of thieves I ever thought I would see. Even when they still manage to lose, they move the goalposts. They are fiery mad that it is probably not going to work for them this time.

  • justme

    Hey Pattie..Don’t let the door hit you in the a$$ on the way out..

    We don’t have a good way of extracting the door handle…

    • TrollopeReader

      that’s ok …. he needs a good wallop … and the door needs to be replaced anyway.

      • justme

        a trap door ??

        • TrollopeReader

          that too ….

  • Bert_Bauer

    “Citivas is primarily funded by the family of a top aide to McCrory.”
    Translation: Conservative clusterfuck.
    McCrory gets more deplorable every day.


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  • JellyDonut

    This man sums up all that is wrong with the GOP!