Paul Ryan: Medicare Will Be Privatized [VIDEO]

Jonathan Chait writes for New York Magazine:

“Your solution has always been to put things together, including entitlement reform,” says Baier, using Republican code for privatizing Medicare. Ryan replies, “If you’re going to repeal and replace Obamacare, you have to address those issues as well. … Medicare has got some serious issues because of Obamacare. So those things are part of our plan to replace Obamacare.”

Ryan tells Baier, “Because of Obamacare, Medicare is going broke.” This is false. In fact, it’s the complete opposite of the truth. The Medicare trust fund has been extended 11 years as a result of the passage of Obamacare, whose cost reforms have helped bring health care inflation to historic lows. It is also untrue that repealing Obamacare requires changing traditional Medicare. But Ryan clearly believes he needs to make this claim in order to sell his plan, or probably even to convince fellow Republicans to support it.

More from MSNBC:

In this case, it’s also worth appreciating why Ryan is so shamelessly trying to deceive the public.

Throughout the Obama era, Ryan has pushed a radical budget plan that would effectively eliminate the Medicare system, phasing it out of existence and replacing it with a voucher system. Seniors, under the Speaker’s vision, would stop receiving guaranteed care under a popular and effective government-run program, and would instead receive vouchers that would help pay for coverage through private insurers.

Ryan has been an enthusiastic proponent of such a scheme throughout his career – long before “Obamacare” became the law of the land. Now, however, the Wisconsin congressman seems to think he can use the ACA as an excuse to do what he’s wanted to do anyway for nearly a decade. In other words, Ryan’s message for years has been, “I want to privatize Medicare.” Now, his message has become, “It’s Obamacare’s fault that we have to privatize Medicare.”

But we don’t. The Speaker is plainly and demonstrably wrong. Repealing the Affordable Care Act wouldn’t help Medicare’s finances; it would do the exact opposite, pushing the Medicare system closer to insolvency. Telling the truth, however, wouldn’t help advance the plan Ryan has long advocated, so he’s using “Obamacare” as a convenient fig leaf.

  • DaddyRay
    • sherman

      An oldie but goodie

  • Tiger Quinn

    Hear that seniors? But hey, at least you got ol’ Crooked Hillary but good, right?

    • Gustav2

      Current seniors will be just fine, he will “phase in the privatization.” They will do the same thing to Social Security.

      • Tiger Quinn

        So nobody complains.

        • GayOldLady

          Bush tried to privatize SS with a GOP Congress, he failed and Ryan will fail for the same reasons.

          • DesertSun59

            False. There is exactly zero opposition to the gutting of the entire social infrastructure now.

          • Gustav2

            In fact there is quit a bit of support from all age groups to blow up the whole system.

          • GayOldLady

            There is a lot of opposition to gutting the social infrastructure and not all of it is Dem. Can you tell me how far Ryan’s plan to privatize Medicare, which has been on the table for years, made it through either House? They passed the Repeal of the ACA many times, but it only made it to the President’s desk 1 time and he vetoed it. Putting forth legislation and putting forth legislation that makes it through both houses and to the President desk for signing, isn’t the same thing.

          • Yixing’s Fluffer

            And all it will take is a few nervous senators.

          • GayOldLady

            That’s exactly what stopped Bush, a few nervous Senators.

      • PeterC

        And we old folks will be expected to just quietly die.

      • Reality.Bites

        Could they make an exception and cut Bill Perdue’s right away?

        Because both parties are the same.

      • pj

        social security is next for sure

    • GayOldLady

      This is the fault of seniors? The truth is that the biggest block of Trump voters were Gen X’ers who will be the first to be impacted by Ryan’s plan. At this point blaming demographic groups for the loss is futile. After all of the votes are counted it is estimated that Hillary will win the popular vote 51-49. The problem isn’t Millennials, Seniors or Gen X’ers. It isn’t blacks or Hispanic/Latino and the problem isn’t the turnout. The problem is the electoral college is exceedingly unfair.

      So yesterday I was here defending Millennials and today I’m defending Seniors when I shouldn’t be defending either and we all should be defending Democracy. Defending Democracy is exactly what our Millennials are doing when they march. What we should be doing is defending them and joining them.

      • Gustav2
        • GayOldLady

          Yesterday folks were blaming Millennials, today Tiger is blaming Seniors, but the overwhelming votes for Trump came from Gen X’ers. Still I don’t blame Gen X’ers. The problem isn’t an age demographic, the problem is people like me who vote for Hillary whose vote is nullified because I live in Deep Red State.

          As for the white/christian/sexist/racist rage, we’ve always known that is a problem for our Democracy, but as long as the Electoral college nullifies the votes of those who live in predominantly Red or Blue States the process is unfair.

          • Gustav2

            Compare the map in the article with a map of the rural counties in Wisconsin and Ohio who voted for Obama but now went for Trump.
            The rural white vote increased up to 10% in many counties.

        • ETownCanuck

          It’s true, it was us white people who were the largest group of Trump voters…the blame lands squarely on white people regardless of age.

          • Gustav2

            Especially rural white America yearning for the 1950’s industrial powerhouse we were because every other country was in a shambles after WW II.

      • canoebum

        They can march, up until January 20, 2017. After that, they’ll be attacked by riot police and shot in the streets. Trump thinks protests are “unfair”.

        • GayOldLady

          The marchers have no choice. And believe me if they are “attacked by riot police and shot in the streets”, that will open a door that hasn’t been opened in this country for 50-60 years. Not a smart move and I don’t think it will happen.

      • TuuxKabin

        Thank you GayOldLady for defending both groups. I blocked TigerANN a long time ago, he just doesn’t get it. Did you read the announcement, I think LazyCrockett posted, re: places to ‘walk/march/protest on the 16th, I think it is? I’ll look for it and post it again. xoxox

        • GayOldLady

          Thanks Tuux…..I wish there something nearby, I’d at least start the Protest march with them.

          • TuuxKabin

            You’re marching right here. Everyday when you comment. I’ve learned another progressive, intelligent and articulate perspective from our GayOldLady’s comments. I’m such an admirer of yours, you’d have to chase me off with a stick. An expression I learned from a MIssissippi Grandmother.

          • GayOldLady

            That’s so kind of you darlin Tuux, I admire you too. Was your Southern grandmother as cantankerous as I am? Or was she a genteel Southern woman?

          • TuuxKabin

            Oh, sorry, no. My grandma was Mexican. And she was so sweet and wonderful. I remember me and cousins clinging to her apron at the stove while she fed us fresh warm tortillas and salsa. Our eyes watering and noses running from the ‘picante’. We’d wipe our noses on her apron. Our nickname was ‘mis mococitos’ my little snotty ones. She was genteel peasant lady. But she had her cantankerous (such a great word) moments. I remember her batting grandpa over the head with the bouquet of flowers he brought to her to make up for a wee kerfuffle between them that grandma felt was a major affront to her divinity. Us kids laughing and pulling her telling her ‘ay, grandma, basta ya, basta’ – enough, enough. She broke in young horses, a good horse back rider. Fabulous cook. Provided fresh tamales to the local vendors who paid her of course. And was the only member of the family to tell me “it doesn’t matter, honey, does it? I still love you.” when my, difficult, older sister outed me to the family. I still laugh when I think of her. Emma. Grandma Emma to my friends. Whew. Thanks for the memory of her. The Mississippi grandma I referred to was a wonderful genteel Southern LADY. She was the baker and I the salad chef at summer camp in the high Sierra Nevadas, near Yosemite National Park. A lot of fun. She taught me that we should not sit around rusticating. Millie. Millie Watson. We had four summers working together and boy friends and I would visit her off season in San Diego. I was living in Bezerkeley at the time. MUAH, to you, you oi’ wonderful cantankerous Grandma, are you obstropolous as well? Another great word Millie taught me.

          • GayOldLady

            Good morning Tuux. Love the story of your grandma. She sounds a bit like my grandma only our meals were spaghetti and meatball or polpette. And she was also the first person in my family to accept me. You and I grew up far apart, but we have a lot in common.

            And I don’t think I’m “obstropolous”, but I guess I can be under the right circumstances. I had to look that one up. 🙂

      • Scott Fitler

        As a gen-x-er I’m appalled that my generation helped elect this clown. I thought one of the hallmarks of this group was our bullshit detectors but obviously those were defective.

        • GayOldLady

          And I’m upset with Seniors, but I’m not going to point fingers or begin the blame game. In the final analysis Hillary will win the Popular vote 52-48 and that’s the shame of this. The GOP has a grip on power as long as they can get the bumpkin vote of the uninformed whose news source is Fox, and as long as the other enticements are racism, homophobia, xenophobia, sexism. The “ism’s” and “phobias” will drive a lot of bitter, angry folks out from under their rocks.

  • Gustav2

    Stop saying something is false…call him a “liar.”

    • jimbo65

      I know right? Why do we have this weird taboo of not calling a liar a liar.

      • Earl

        They have no problem with calling someone a liar, if the person has no power to fight back.

        • Bill Post

          https://youtu.be/NR_Ol3VA37o joe wison comes to mind… DNC needs to be gutted.

          • TampaDink

            Imagine what would be the reaction from a Democrat saying the same thing during the next state of the union speech. (AND…we know that there will be LIES in it)

      • Stephen Elliot Phillips

        Because journalists and we liberals at large are still working under the assuption that PC rules are still in effect.
        Liar is such a mean person word.
        Boo hoo

        • Because anyone left of Breitbart is sensitive to criticisms of bias. So they bend over backwards to appear fair to Republicans and in the process let them get away with things like interviewing Melania Trump and not asking her about her work visa situation in the 80s. (Anderson Cooper)

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      • I don’t. But media people do. I have no idea why.

      • Gerry Fisher

        Because it implies intent when it could have been an “ooops” (I know, I know)

    • Charles in Bloomington

      Even the NY Times today said Newt Gingrich “gave a committee untrue information.” Not that he lied. I don’t understand why this language is used, when it does so much damage.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/11/opinion/the-wrong-people-to-drain-the-swamp.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-abc-region&region=span-abc-region&WT.nav=span-abc-region&_r=0

      • Gustav2

        Libel laws? Or tradition in a non-traditional media world?

      • Menergy

        Perhaps it becomes an ad hominem personal attack when one says “you are a liar” vs. attacking the information/statement? Subtle difference, I know, but the stance is used on here a lot.

      • saucetin

        Libel? CYA?

      • Diogenes Onionpants

        The reason to say that he spoke an untruth, rather than a lie, may also be because you want to leave open the possibility that he was too goddamn stupid to know the difference.

        But since Gingrich was not convicted of perjury before a committee, the NYT is probably just watching its ass.

  • Skokieguy [Larry]

    The Republicans are acting like they have a mandate from the American public. I’d just like to put this here,

    “…Trump four years ago questioned the legitimacy of the Electoral College system, which selects presidents based on the states they win rather than the total votes they receive. On Election Day 2012, when there was public speculation that Mitt Romney might win the popular vote but lose in the Electoral College to President Barack Obama, Trump went on a tweet storm, calling the election “a total sham and a travesty.” He exclaimed, “We are not a democracy.” He called for “revolution” against this “great and disgusting injustice” and slammed the “phoney electoral college.”

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/11/election-gingrich-believed-popular-vote-winner-should-be-president

    • Mordred LeFey

      You’re not aware that people tend to be hypocrites?

      And I’m not saying that to troll. If Clinton had won the electoral college but Trump won the popular vote, we’d be saying the same thing. “Too bad for you.”

    • Yixing’s Fluffer

      Exactly. At least when Dubya embarked on his quixotic Soc Sec privatization plan, he had a democratic mandate to cite.

    • Uncle Mark

      The Republicans correctly think that most Americans are stupid, and President Trump is their proof; however their stupid base will be the first to feel the pain of Republican reforms…and they will be the first to call for blood. Be warned, Paul Ryan, before you eagerly & recklessly sell out this country.

      • DesertSun59

        Ryan doesn’t care! And those he’s going to f*ck are going to be unaware they’re being f*cked. Then, it will be too late and they’ll SUCCESSFULLY blame it on the Dems. It’s a guarantee.

        • Uncle Mark

          I would normally agree with you, but when senior citizens find that Republican changes more than double the medical costs that they can ill-afford (and let’s not forget the power & information that AARP wields), even these Republican-loving idiots will be hard-pressed to find fault with anyone else, especially with the GOP running the Presidency & Congress.

          • PeterC

            But they WILL NOT find out until it is done and then too late to yell.

    • But does it matter? The have all branches of government, soon the supreme court, they can do whatever they want. People can scream about lack of a mandate but it’s done.

      • Skokieguy [Larry]

        Exactly. On one hand the ACLU site crashed with people donating hoping they will help protect rights. But with Trump filling lower court and SCOTUS, there’s no stopping the will of Trump and the extremists. By the time redistricting is possible in 2020, I fear voter laws will be so thoroughly eviscerated that it will be almost impossible to ever again have a democratic majority in Congress.

  • sherman

    I wake up each morning, remember the 9/11 that happened this week, and am like
    https://twitter.com/rabihalameddine/status/796736147363950593

    • olandp

      11/9.

    • djcoastermark

      those are some scary numbers

      • Gustav2

        And that is only the immediate impact, the government will pay less and less as the years go by.

        • bambinoitaliano

          Their definition of smaller government means tax payers money is being cut off programs from assisting the citizens. Rather it will siphon into helping the rulers’s friends and families corporations.

          • Stephen Elliot Phillips

            They have to pay somehow for an untaxed ruling class with all the money.

          • Snarkaholic

            Hey, Lamborghinis don’t grow on trees!

        • PeterC

          They will have to spend less on your health costs as they want to cut the taxes of everyone, especially those that are now making millions and paying no taxes.

    • DesertSun59

      Nope. They’re not going to say a word in opposition. They won’t and don’t understand what they elected into office and they’ll have exactly ZERO clue what those people are going to do to them.

      • Menergy

        That’s what’s terrifying to me.

    • bambinoitaliano

      But the people who supported them will just believe the blame lies on the minorities such as the immigrants for taking their jobs. The spinning machine from the Trump alt-right movement is not stopping anytime soon. There are plenty of displacement of angry left yet. If Hitler can go as far as terminating millions of Jews and other minorities before the world response, Trump America is just the beginning of the movement.

      • OH YES there will be…people CAN NOT pay this and they will know it…this is not what lower and middle white Americans can afford and they will start digesting the numbers and their children will start telling them what can be bought and can not paid for…they wanted change but ALSO wanted to feel like they were being heard…

        Keep in mind please that lower and middle white Americans do not want more debt as they are swimming in it and with CONSTANT media coverage (unlike during the Bush years) they will quickly wake up and make NOISE!!!!!

        • Herald

          More headlines like this are essential. Too many of those lower and middle Americans only read the headlines.

        • tcinsf

          we hope.

        • Snarkaholic

          They will scream that it’s the fault of Obama, minorities, etc., but then they’ll tell the GOP government to FIX it, which they WON’T, and then…

    • bitwise

      They’ve realized that they can do anything and blame it on Obama because voters don’t care about facts anymore. The 24 hour GOP propaganda machine has taken over.

      • They will blame Obama sure like “liberals” blamed Bush…with damn good reason…BUT they will SCREAM that they want their Medicare LEFT ALONE because they can not pay it…this is what will happen and this is what is needed just like they did with Bush at the end of his presidency…lower and middle income white Americans were FED UP with paying and paying and losing and losing…that is HOW we elected Obama…a vicious cycle that SO many people have forgotten…

    • tcinsf

      The increase is 1/5 of what my mother is currently living on (supplemented by me, of course.)
      Here’s a hint, when you’re living on about 30k/hear, a change of 6k is monumental. That simply means that I am going to have to find another 6k out of my budget, because she can’t.
      I wonder what all those seniors who don’t have children who can find another 6k out of THEIR income are going to do?

      • Herald

        Take it a step more into reality I get about 13k from SSDI. Everything else comes from my wife and children. Try taking that $6k out of my income, that is half! And people doubt that we won’t scream about this.

    • Jerry

      Not even shown is the fact that, on the private market, what insurance company is going to cover the old and sick, even with $8000. voucher? And like in the states that didn’t expand Medicaid under the ACA, this will cause many (particularly in rural states) clinics, hospitals and other healthcare providers to close…they’ll have to accept emergency patients with little hope of being paid for it.

      • Agreed…how far will the money go is a GREAT questions and BIGGER concern…

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/13e33a0b38251847f2c9852d33d8b08f9d8433a75743f87f911367f42b2766ad.jpg

        • Jerry

          And though they may phase in the privatization, it will bankrupt the current Medicare quickly by diverting the funding. Good luck getting a GOP congress to fund the difference to the current beneficiaries.

      • JerryRich

        No problem. Just get rid of the Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act (EMTALA), a federal law that requires anyone coming to an emergency department to be stabilized and treated, regardless of their insurance status or ability to pay.

    • Rambie

      Those backlashes will only happen if the truth gets out there. The media and democrats have been pretty inept at calling the Republicans liars and debunking their plans.

      • Agreed…social media will make things happen as you can not control it unlike the media

        • Rambie

          I hope so and that we progressives can get geared up to take back the Senate and some state level houses/governor in 2018.

          • From Senator Reid:

            “Every news piece that breathlessly obsesses over inauguration preparations compounds their fear by normalizing a man who has threatened to tear families apart, who has bragged about sexually assaulting women and who has directed crowds of thousands to intimidate reporters and assault African Americans. Their fear is legitimate and we must refuse to let it fall through the cracks between the fluff pieces.”

    • Hue-Man

      NOTE: The chart is for “a typical 65 year old in 2022”. The medical expenses for the 80+ group are more than double the expenses of the 65-79 group (much of it for the cost of care during the last year of life).

      RyanCare will increase your medical premiums as you age, when your life savings are dwindling. At 90, your medical expenses could well be 4 times a 65 year old!

  • Bj Lincoln

    I just got awarded the much needed SSD/SSI. How will this effect my coverage and monthly check?

    • djcoastermark

      I think we are going to be screwed. I really don’t see any good coming of this. I am worried.

      • Bj Lincoln

        The wife and I are both on SSD and found the cheapest place in Maryland to live. If our few benefits are lowered and cost of meds and care are raised, we will not be able to make it.

        • djcoastermark

          Same boat here.

          • Silver Badger

            Welcome to the club. Our numbers are in the millions.

        • Caliban M

          I am retiring this month. I am already having to leave Boston because it is so expensive. I am moving to Maine for the cheap real estate. If Medicare cost go up, I am a goner.

    • Lena

      SSDI and SSI are two different programs depending on whether you’ve paid into SS the requisite 40+ quarters. If under 40 quarters, then you have SSI with asset limits and income/expense reporting. Because of this, I hope you have SSDI as life is so much simpler then.

    • DesertSun59

      The GOP voters who wanted Agent Orange to ‘lead’ them will announce that you will have to get a job.

      • Herald

        Even though in the words of my Dr. “You are UNEMPLOYABLE!” I could not get even my own son to hire me to do lobby at McDonalds. BTW he was not being mean, he was being a responsible manager. there is no way I could do the job.

        • Snarkaholic

          Is there some sort of desk job you could get somewhere?

          • Herald

            NO, Besides the limits on function in my left arm and back I have moderate to severe chronic pain – that is 24/7. There is never a moment I am not hurting. If i twist it just a little wrong, someone bumps that arm, the weather changes, AC blows on it, etc I usually get a strong pain spike. Those can take anywhere up to a few hours to days to calm down. They sometimes are strong enough to knock me to the floor. The days I am not here or am not that coherent you can rest assured I am at the severe end of things.

          • Snarkaholic

            I am so sorry to hear that.

    • PeterC

      Very simple; you will not have any coverage or a monthly check.

    • Herald

      The same way it will impact me — we would be in a world of trouble. Details are yet to come.

      I just got bad news from my Worker’s Comp attorney about how they screwing people over and what I have to do to “minimize” the damage. It is not good news. Basically they are changing the laws so they do not have to pay long term coverage and even though I am grandfathered in the courts are applying that to old cases like mine anyway. Think Palin’s death panels. They do this sort of thing to Medicare it will be death panels for real.

    • tcinsf

      I am 10 years from retirement. I’m seriously looking at retiring to someplace like Mexico or India where the cost of medical care, w/o insurance, is more reasonable.
      And when the big disease comes? Die. Fuck it, I’ve had a good run.
      Not sure if that sounds depressed, reasonable, or both….

      • Hue-Man

        Rahm Emmanuel’s brother made headlines when he wrote that he “hoped to die at 75”. The whole essay is worth reading but here’s part of his medical action plan.

        At 75 and beyond, I will need a good reason to even visit the doctor and take any medical test or treatment, no matter how routine and painless. And that good reason is not “It will prolong your life.” I will stop getting any regular preventive tests, screenings, or interventions. I will accept only palliative—not curative—treatments if I am suffering pain or other disability.

        http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/10/why-i-hope-to-die-at-75/379329/

        I wonder if his attitudes will change in the next 15 years. Of course, with RyanCare, he may have no choice!

    • Bj Lincoln

      It would be nice but I don’t see big Pharma changing their big rip off of Americans. Look at Slick Shit. Did he ever lower the price of that life saving pill? There are no laws stopping them.

      • JerryRich

        All it would take is repeal of the “non-interference” clause of the Medicare Modernization Act of 2003, which prevents government interference in the negotiations between drug companies and the private plans that market drug benefits in Medicare.
        The VA already negotiates drug prices.
        Of course after the recent tragedy there is no chance of this happening.

  • This is HOW the backlash begins yes that is right, even the people that supported them are going to be SCREAMING because there are millions of poor white Americans that are going to be out of coverage and out of money that they do not have and have not saved…Ryan and others like him are the people that said that they are for the LOST Americans…but this is something that is NOT going to help many Americans that they proclaim to be for…

    • DesertSun59

      There will be no backlash.

      • OH YES there will be…people CAN NOT pay this and they will know it…this is not what lower and middle white Americans can afford and they will start digesting the numbers and their children will start telling them what can be bought and can not paid for…

        Keep in mind please that lower and middle white Americans do not want more debt as they are swimming in it and with CONSTANT media coverage (unlike during the Bush years) they will quickly wake up and make NOISE…

        • Tiger Quinn

          People didn’t show up to vote. They’re not going to give a shit about this.

          • When it comes to money Americans are CHEAP and VERY VOCAL…do not forget that…try to raise the prices at a Wal-Mart and watch how people REACT…that is why the Dollar Store took off here in American…

      • PeterC

        No backlash; you are right as dead people are usually silent.

      • John Ruff

        Lol, you think you know it all, huh?

    • Randy503

      One of our hopes is that the Republicans will overreach. Go ahead — destroy the social safety net, recriminilizae gay sex, repeal the civil rights act. They are like kids in the candy store. What is undone can be redone when we are back in power, and by then the demographics will be much better in our favor to make it stick.

      And the democrats have to do what the repubicans did — no compromise!

      • Herald

        The Democrats have get tough and vote, which sadly does not seem realistic.
        AS far as the overreach, the GOP is already gearing up for it and it is going to be bloody.

  • Butch

    Trump’s election is actually going to hurt his supporters the most of anyone. Karma’s a bitch, guys.

    • Todd20036

      Yeah, but they won’t blame Trump for this.

      • Friday

        That’s where we’ll have to look to defense, as minorities. This is gonna get more dangerous, one’s got to presume.

  • DaddyRay

    Get ready for the million walker march

  • JellyDonut

    here we go! Screw over all those old people who voted for the mango man!

    • DaddyRay

      And a good majority of them will defend this because
      IOKIYAR

    • j.martindale

      Fuck you! More than half the country voted against the fucker.

      • Todd20036

        But enough voted for him, and those that did are primarily white, older, and uneducated.

  • Yixing’s Fluffer

    AARP will bury this motherfucker. What a goddamn idiot.

  • DesertSun59

    I’m no longer an American. I’m a Californian. The rest of you voted to gut the entire social safety net. And you’re gonna get it.

    • Silver Badger

      Not us in Colorado, Oregon or Washington.

      • DaddyRay

        Illinois didn’t either

        • MaryOGrady

          Nor us in New Mexico.

          • j.martindale

            Nor did more than half the fucking country.

          • Todd20036

            Certainly not DC

    • djcoastermark

      Not us in St Pete. We were and still are solid blue. Clearwater however can go screw itself.

      • Gustav2

        And Sarasota.

        • djcoastermark

          Yea, never cared for the uber conservativity that is Sarasota.

    • John Ruff

      Fuck off. Don’t lump me in with the trumpsters. And California sucks anyway.

    • Gay Fordham Prep Grad

      The people of the Empire State rejected our native son 3/1…why did not listen to us?! We know him best.

    • Friday

      The appeal of that Calexit for Californians is obvious, but there are huge inherent snags, like how it kind of comes with a guarantee you’d be giving complete political control to the hostile elements in a neighboring power, ie, what’s left of the US. (Kind of the reverse of ‘Hey, Texas, go ahead and secede,’ ) If the US breaks up, we’ll be looking at Pacific countries and the Northeast, …possibly even the whole east coast by that time.

      (We nearly *did* flip Georgia, incidentally. If there’s another chance, even the gerrymandering might not help the Republicans by then. Presuming of course this doesn’t trigger a mass return/flight of more progressive types and companies back to Blue states. )

  • jimbo65

    He’s lying. See this us what happens when people are conditioned that Social Security and Medicare are “entitlements ” Started with Reagan’s lie of the welfare queen. If he succeeds, then at long last they will get the chance to plunder Medicare and social security and kick it over to the rich cronies.

    • Friday

      Technically they kind of reversed the meaning of ‘Yes, citizens are damn well entitled to this.’ Only way to keep trying to loot them.

  • RobynWatts

    I have one question for “Ayn Ryan” here…..if your insurance plans are so great, then how about you and every single one of your Republican buddies get off your current taxpayer-paid healthcare plan and use you own plan exclusively?

    Well Trumpettes, how do you like your new government so far?

  • Silver Badger

    More Republican Lies. I hope the Trumpsters enjoy the government they deserve.

    • bambinoitaliano

      And half of those who did not support him and the GOP will suffer along with them.

      • Silver Badger

        Half of us. Not those.

  • HKDaniel

    Seniors stuck with the choice between paying for health care or paying for a place to live.

    I suppose we’ll next have a new program for indebted citizens more commonly known as Debtors Prison.

    Make America Great?

    All so that the rich can pay even less taxes. Less than zero? YES, that’s it!! Let’s pay the rich!

    • Jerry

      Under GWB, they made it harder for individuals to file bankruptcy. During that time, 75-80% of bankruptcies were because of medical bills. I think we’ll see those problems again soon.

  • Earl

    I suppose none of them actually read what Karl Marx wrote, eh?

    This is going to end badly.

  • Silver Badger

    Here we are again. A fool for a president and an evil man as his vice president. The Bush years revisited. Do you suppose we go to war with Mexico or Canada?

    • zhera

      Iran. Russia will help.

      • The_Wretched

        I can see them flatly agreeing to carve up the territory into new ‘countries’ and setting up puppets to make them client states for looting the oil. “all” they need to do is genocide.

  • bambinoitaliano

    A question for the Americans. How many are up for the election on the next mid term election? Is there any mathematical chance of wrestling the power from the GOP?

    • DaddyRay

      2018 is going to be a potential bloodbath for Senate Democrats

      Democrats defending 25 seats
      Republicans defending 8 seats

      Given Democrats are notorious for not showing up for mid-term elections we are going to get royally screwed

      • bambinoitaliano

        And winning all the seats still give them zero chance. Sigh… dark time ahead indeed.

        • DaddyRay

          More here

          Senate Democrats, 2018 Math Is Not Your Friend
          http://www.rollcall.com/news/home/for-democrats-2018-senate-math-is-daunting

        • Todd20036

          Our best hope is that the republicans don’t get 60 senate seats. If that happens, then there is nothing to stop them.

          Death camps? Sweet

          Kill SS? Ok

          Kill Medicare/Medicaid? No problem

          Make Islam illegal? Sure.

          You think I’m exaggerating? Being hyperbolic?

          Well, I really worry these things could happen. Shit.

          • The_Wretched

            I’ve stopped thinking about it. I don’t see where the limits and stopping points are on the slippery slope of bad things. And that means everything you list (and more) is just as likely as anything else.

      • Friday

        This time, breaking that pattern is life-or-death.

    • Reality.Bites

      And in the House all seats are up.

  • Mordred LeFey

    What could this mean for Medicaid? My mother is on Medicaid, and she has a slew of preexisting conditions. I’m worried for her.

    • canoebum

      You should be. Her services will be cut to the bone under a block grant program, while real estate taxes will go up. This all Republican government will be a disaster for everyone who isn’t independently wealthy. We have only Chuck Schmer (Wall Street’s favorite Democrat) to stand between us and the Feds giving Social Security to Wall Street. Forget guaranteed benefits, if the “street” suffers losses with your money, and what’s the chance of THAT ever happening, if you’re on Social Security you’ll get much smaller benefits, if any at all. This is the realization of a 70 years dream of the GOP to get rid of the New Deal benefits for seniors, the sick and the disabled.

      • Friday

        The sad part for even them is they only get another Depression out of doing that. People can’t magically be ‘enterpreneurial’ when their customers are destitute.

        • Snarkaholic

          I love the “self-help” books that tell you that you can be rich and work from anywhere in the world (beach, etc.) on your computer.
          How is a chef, carpenter, cashier, etc. supposed to do that?

          • Friday

            Frankly, if there was honest work that way that actually paid, I’d have been doing it.

      • Jerry

        And an all-GOP government is a recipe for another market meltdown. All regs passed since the last disaster will be removed, so they’re free to scam their customers again, up to the point when the derivatives they’re selling are shown to have no value. And the markets like stability…with the racist cheeto in the WH, there’s anything but stability. I’m moving all money out of the markets before the end of the year.

        • Hue-Man

          Sub-prime lending is already an issue in the car loan market. Republicans will introduce a new generation to something we had hoped to forget – NINJA (no income, job, assets) loans.

    • Floyd

      People will die because of this. Make no mistake about it. And that is the plan. Fewer poor people sucking at the government teat is what the GOP thinks. The sooner they die, the better for everyone. That’s the GOP way.

      • tcinsf

        I know. I’m trying not to be maudlin, but I’m not seeing social security as surviving until my retirement (certainly not before I’m dead.)
        I’m also seeing my 401ks evaporate when the economy crashes.
        “Privatization” means that our money is going to be funneled to corporate management who will give themselves monumental bonuses while screwing the rest of us out of our money.
        I’m not seeing anything good coming. Nothing.

        • The_Wretched

          That’s exactly what happened under Bush II.

      • Hue-Man

        “Steal from the poor to give to the rich.”

  • zhera

    1. See Ryan’s forehead? That’s him lying.

    2. If a privatized Medicare is so awesome there’s no need to blame the need for it on ACA. See point #1.

    3. Many of the people who voted for Trump and GOP will be directly affected by this. It’ll be interesting to see how they manage to blame the godless liberals now that GOP has all power.

    • Jerry Kott

      Very true!
      It is time to hand out full length mirrors and scales to GOP Americans. If they want to know who is the problem, they should just look in the mirror. Too bad the Democrats handed the GOP their balls.

  • Blake Jordan

    Donnie’s voters will be hit so hard buy this, sadly we cannot laugh at that because a lot of other innocent people will suffer too!!!

    • Herald

      They mess up Medicare and I am in a world of trouble!

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    Iowa privatized state medicaid ,because ” state run is expensive.” It has already cost 33 million more than predicted at just 6 months out, but the Gov. says ‘ but will save so much in the long run ” they are so full of crap and make death sound like a vacation, the idiots keep voting FOR them.

    • Gustav2

      Medicaid? Not Medicare, right?

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        Correct & Fixed

        • Gustav2

          I’m hypersensitive to the difference because the hubby works for Medicaid.

  • GayOldLady

    Just a few months ago there were a few people here who were arguing for the nuclear option that destroys Cloture and the ability to filibuster. I argued against the nuclear option then and what’s happened in the last 4 days is the reason. We have tools that will enable us to drag the legislative process out the way they did even when Obama had both houses. The ship of State is huge, especially the legislative branch, and it doesn’t turn on a dime.

    • Gustav2

      but…but…but the nuclear option is only good when WE use it!

      • GayOldLady

        I’ve never believed in the Nuclear option. If you get rid of Cloture/Filibuster, the minority is at the mercy of the majority. That’s even more stark in an election where we won the popular vote, but they won the power of the pen through the Electoral College.

        • Gustav2

          It is the brakes on the system.

        • SoCalGal20

          Don’t bet on McConnell and Co. keeping that option in the new session. They have all the control and I would not be at all surprised if they changed the rules.

    • Friday

      The problem is of course that you know the obstructionism by Republicans that is why people are so pissed off in the first place, is only ‘OK if Republicans Do It.’ They’re unlikely to have such scruples about the filibuster rules if they can make em work to their favor, they know future demographics are against them, so they likely don’t intend to leave the country intact for anyone *else* if they can’t stack the deck more for themselves in the meantime.

    • McSwagg

      The ship of State is huge, especially the legislative branch, and it doesn’t turn on a dime.

      The same was said of the Exxon Valdez and we know what happen with it.
      http://www.lieffcabraser.com/images/exxon.jpg

  • Silver Badger

    OK boys and girls, After years of relying on the stupidity of followers, Republicans have really pissed off the half of the country that actually use their brains. Surely we can all band together and make the failed Trump administration the biggest debacle in world history.

    • Snarkaholic

      The more bills (of ALL kinds) we can tie up in red tape, the harder/longer it will be to get them through the process…which will help minimize the damage they can do (slightly, I know, but we should use ALL the tools at our disposal).

  • SoCalGal20

    Fuck you, you lying POS.

    Spread the word in Trumpland that he wants to get rid of Medicare!

    • EweTaw

      And Social Security too. Toodles SS checks to the flyover states . . . and every where else.

  • John Ruff

    Ha ha ha! You’ll never get it done. Medicare ain’t going anywhere, unless they all wanna get voted out of office.

    • CraigNJ

      The entire House is up for reelection every 2 years. So we won’t have to wait too long for the next incarnation of the Tea Party.

  • Bill_Perdue

    Medicare already is largely in the hands of private insurance providers who are paid to administer it and it’s already been gutted to prop up Obamacare.

    That’s just one of the right wing policies and appointments that will become hallmarks of the Trump regime. Trump is going to make even more hateful appointments and policies because the Democrats nominated an unelectable rightwing candidate who was rejected by millions of radicalized youth, including BLM and former Sanders supporters who abandoned him and the DP when he, as expected, abandoned them in favor of another Clinton.

    Last night the demonstrations continued, spread to new cities and seemed to be larger. Built by social media and networking with cells, they are remarkable for their spontaneity, solidarity and the breadth of communities and movements involved. The base of anti-Trump forces will grow even larger as it becomes clear that he cannot make good, and doesn’t want to make good, on his promises.

    The natural instinct of the demonstrators is absolutely correct – to build a mass movement around every right step of the Trump regime, and there will be many. Mass action is the way to win. Bogus involvement in the DP attempts to reform it and the RP are the way to lose.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/12984d7b420aea38af2eb4a3043d5cdf24f981d252a7dd53be6abd6222cff5a2.png

  • tcinsf

    There’s going to be a lot of suffering coming down the pike. I wonder how Red State America is going to blame liberals for it.
    Radical Conservatism, here we come.

    • Todd20036

      Probably blame “illegal immigrants”, Jews, Muslims, and maybe even LBGT for good measure

      • Friday

        But Trump said ‘Oh, LGBT people will be saved from Muslim terrorists, (While I hand your lives and rights as citizens over to the Christian Dominionists and alt-right thugs.)’

    • fuow

      Oh, they will. And, my party will be quiet. We have learned nothing from our defeat.

  • Where are the assholes around here claiming Trump and Hillary were the same? And yes, I’m talking to you Bill Purdue, quisling piece of shit.

    The great tragedy of this is that many of the people that voted for Trump are going to be the first to be destroyed by him. This is going to be a long four years for the most vulnerable in the US, the people everyone was told would be hurt by those who couldn’t fucking bring themselves to vote for Hillary because of some bullshit ideological purity. Those people can fuck off and die. The US is going to get ugly and guess what, wannabe revolutionaries? There’s not going to be a revolution. It won’t happen. If you think it’s going to happen you know shit about history.

    • Bill_Perdue

      Democrats are the enemy. Attempts to reform DP are futile. Millions deserted your rancid right party. The election of Trump is the result of nominating another right wing Clinton indistinguishable from Trump.

      You’re historically illiterate and a right wing fool. Your pathetic attempt to blame anyone but yourself and your fellow Democrats for the election of Trump is a demonstration of your stupidity and your refusal to admit your party’s crucial role in electing Trump.

      • My last reply to you before I block you, quisling. You’re irrelevant and I’m certainly not going to treat you like some cute, doddering old fool any longer. You’re nothing but a sham and you helped destroy the US. I hope you’re happy with yourself, you selfish piece of flaming shit. Good bye.

        • Bill_Perdue

          Hysterical idiot likes the DP because The Democrats recovery is a cruel hoax.

          The BLS monthly jobs report –always chock full of useful information about the state of the working class—was released last Friday as the election campaign enters the final month. It was kind of lost in the shuffle between Hurricane Matthew and new outrage about the misogynist Republican nominee. That was just fine with his Democrat opponent.

          BLS says, “The unemployment rate, at 5.0 percent, and the number of unemployed persons, at 7.9 million, changed little in September. Both measures have shown little movement, on net, since August of last year.”

          That’s the “official” unemployment stat. But also reported, there are an additional 1.8 million long-term jobless now designated as only “marginally attached to the workforce” and another 5.9 million are listed as “involuntary part-time”—both numbers essentially unchanged. Combined as the “real” unemployment, these three measures show a job creation that has become stalled—hardly keeping up with new first-time job seekers–while leaving behind 15.6 million who want full-time jobs but can’t find one.

          Most job growth, both in September and year to date, was in business services-ytd 582,000; health care-ytd 445,000; eating and drinking establishments-ytd 300,000; and retail sales added 317,000 jobs so far in 2016. To be sure, these industries have some well compensated professionals and technicians–but the majority of these new jobs are low wage, many part-time.

          A lot more could be expected—especially after a record year of auto sales and a rebound in housing. The old vaunted “Middle Class” still exists on a much smaller scale but the dream of younger generations to join it—or middle aged workers to rejoin after being pushed out–is still elusive after seven + years of “recovery.”

          In the last WIR, I wrote about how the Middle Class has been in a long decline through automation and cybermation. During the Great Recession, bosses also successfully reduced labor costs through outsourcing, job combinations, and big concessions in union contracts. While this enhanced profits in production, at the same time it reduced the purchasing power of many workers. Readers outside the USA may be shocked by some numbers associated with this contraction.

          Disturbing Math
          The average work hours per week for private sector “nonsupervisory and production employees”—that includes the majority of the working class—was only 33.5. The average hourly wage for the same category rose 5 cents to 21.68. That works out to an average annual wage of 37,766.
          http://kclabor.org/wordpress/?p=943

          From KC Labor http://kclabor.org/wordpress/

          • The_Wretched

            You’re complaining about a cashier miscounting pennies while a embezzler is taking 85% of your accounts receivable.

          • Bill_Perdue

            You’re wrong. Tens of millions are still in trouble because of the economic chaos that began in 2008 and had it’s origins in B Clintons NAFTA, deregulation and anti-union policies.

            The fact that Democrats and Republicans have such cavalier and uncaring attitudes towards the unemployed and underemployed explains your loss and will illuminate the growing anti-Trump coaction in the streets and factories,

        • Todd20036

          Best choice I made was to block that worthless hypocritical asshole.

          Trump could really create death camps for Muslims. There is a non-zero possibility of that happening.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Racist pig is upset and cowardly.

      • The_Wretched

        Go listen to the video…geez. You have nothing to say against the pillaging of the public fisk on behalf of the oligarchs?

        • This is all he’s ever done.

          • EweTaw

            Did I just detect a Bill_Perdue rant? I have “it” blocked. Life is so much better without his blathering nonsense. 🙂

          • Bill_Perdue

            Coward.

          • Mike_in_the_Tundra

            I blocked him a couple weeks ago. I just couldn’t take it anymore.

        • Bill_Perdue

          Learn to read.

          • The_Wretched

            Do you really have no idea about the consequences and direction of your arguments? Self-awareness and honesty means being able to look at the range of possibility and knowing where your choices land you.

            If someone has 10 bad things in front of them but only and ever and always attacks the same 2, they are enabling the other 8. Adults are expected to at least recognize the range of 10 things and explain why or how the 2 so overwhelm the other 8 that they pretend the other 8 things don’t exist.

  • ColdCountry

    I have paid into Medicare and SS my whole life. This is MY money, not some gift! Fuckers!

    • Todd20036

      Yeah, now it’s a gift. Unless you have great medical insurance in retirement and serious savings, well, welcome to poverty.

      And when the Trumpanzees are fucked, who are they going to blame? Immigrants? Muslims? Jews?

      Plenty of wrong choices to choose from, no?

  • Hunter M

    So basically, they’ve used the “Brown Boogie Man” to distract the voters while they were busy cutting Medicare. Welcome to the new world order.

    • Todd20036

      Brown/Muslim/libtards.

      Yup

  • jimbo65

    You know, being in Congress is such a cush job. How many months out the year do they work, 4? 6? And for what? They don’t do jack shit other than obstruct, figure out how they can make other American’s lives miserable. Oh and to serve their corporate overlords. Nice job if you can get it.

  • SoCalGal20

    You know how we stop this bullshit? Call your elected officials everyday. If they’re Republican and support this idiocy, tell them you will not vote for them and that you will tell your hundreds/thousands of Facebook friends and family members what is going on and that you will do everything you can to make sure they do not get re-elected. Go to their district office or whatever local events they attend and tell them what you think. Picket their offices. If you can find some that are particularly vulnerable to re-election, all the better. Make your voice heard. They might start to get a clue that we’re not just going to roll over. Also, if you have any contact with local senior centers/assisted living facilities and have a chance to inform seniors of what’s going on that could also help.

  • Raising_Rlyeh

    So, senior citizens will be fucked.

    • Todd20036

      Only the ones not in the economic top 10%.

      The rest, who are the most important, will be fine.

    • EweTaw

      Yes.

    • CharlestonDave

      No, not at all. They can always use their vast incomes to fund Medical Savings Accounts, so that their our-of-pocket health care expenses are tax-free!

      /s

  • saucetin

    Mouth-defecating
    colostomy bag
    Ryan speaker shit
    enemy of democracy

  • Gay Fordham Prep Grad

    Geeze, even the Screaming Cheeto does not believe in that (or at least last we heard).

  • Friday

    “Establishment/TeaParty” Republicans still trying to sell the same shit sandwiches that ‘disaffected’ people before. Same lies to do it, even. They just have more chance to fool people while they have their orgy of bigotry and fascism and all.

  • Michael White

    Glad I had to start Medicare this year when I turned 65. In still working so I have Part A only. I will start collecting Social Security as soon as I turn 66 next spring. Hopefully they will not take it away from those who already have it

    • Todd20036

      Hope so, for your sake.

      • bobbyjoe

        For all our sakes.

  • The_Wretched

    People keep telling me I’m alarmist but privatizing medicare has one net impact – less money being spent on citizens and more structures to funnel it to the most wealthy in the country. It’s not social policy, it’s looting.

  • As we learned in the Reagan years, when a Republican says privatize what they mean is paying a private company, usually a donor, several times more than it cost the government to do something. We’ve seen it many times. It makes a lot of people very rich and drives up the deficit.

  • John Calendo

    Happy now, White Working Class Heros?

    Prepare to sell apples on street corners, you old slags. Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?

  • muffler

    To be clear as the next few weeks progress we will find out how yuge the con was. Russians talking to Trump, debate questions leaked by Fox, administration filled with the same old same old, loss of net neutrality and taxes cut for the rich while the deficit is increased to soak the pockets of industry through useless public projects. I do not wish to leave out the supreme court.

    Well done all!

    • houstonray

      Maybe some electors with a conscience will look at things like this and change their mind….sigh.

  • fuow

    Well, the older folks who voted for Trump will get screwed.
    The real question is: Will they fall for the ‘because Obamacare ruined this’ line?
    My bet is they will – my party never defended the ACA properly, why should we start now?

    • Ninja0980

      We let Republicans control the ACA is bad narrative from the start… and our party has been wiped out in part because of that.

  • EweTaw

    I finally succumbed to applying for Medicare once I discovered everyone 65 and over qualified. My primary care doc told me I should do it. Premiums are about $365 every quarter, but the AArp United Health Care gap coverage is basically no cost and I’ve been pleasantly surprised that my health care has not changed. Plus that $365 every three months is a hell of a lot better than paying $569 every month to my old private insurance provider and still having to pay 20% out of pocket for everything. Yup. It’s a good deal. Every citizen should be able to take advantage of Medicare, regardless of age. But no. The insurance companies need us to be their health slaves and get all our money, even if we don’t have any. Making America Great Again, yah, you betcha.

  • Marides48

    It’s not about healthcare, it’s about increased profits for Medical insurance companies.

  • E.J.

    They should privatize congressional health insurance first……just to make sure it works.

  • William

    If people wanted privatized Medicare, they would sign up for a so called Medicare Advantage plan. The advantage it is like returning to burocratic health insurance, waiting for referrals from a primary care physician. Making appointments only to find out the doctor has bailed out of the network. It will be great fun.

    • stevenj

      I have not had that experience at Kaiser at all.

      • William

        It depends on the state and city. Texas forced a bunch of people into Advantage plans when the Part D program began. In Houston there were two atrocious plans. One had doctors leaving so quickly they stopped printing lists of in network providers.

  • karen in kalifornia

    Gee that didn’t take long. Old white people don’t even know how to have buyer’s remorse, but it’s coming.

    • customartist

      Let them lay in their self-made beds!

  • customartist

    Privatized? And we will be “Mandated by government” to buy it?

    Isn’t this the argument that Republicans have been offering against Obamacare?

    Bottom line: Republicans privatize profits / Publicize liabilities

  • Robert Conner

    Healthcare in the US is a business, run by large corporations, and profit is its only bottom line. The ACA is a conservative response to earlier attempts to overhaul the American system. As implemented, it is corporate welfare writ small. Ryan wants it out and will replace it by corporate looting writ large, his Ayn Rand approach to all things connected with social welfare.

    Under the Trump administration the Department of the Interior will be run by hunters, the Department of Energy by coal barons, the Department of Education (should it still exist) by a creationist, his Supreme Court appointments will almost certainly overturn marriage equality and Roe v. Wade, and his State Department will likely be headed by someone in favor of withdrawing from the UN. Environmental protection will be trashed and the US will withdraw from all previous climate treaties. This is evangelical Middle America giving science, the social safety net and civil rights a big fat Fuck You.

  • kanehau

    I just went from full time at an astronomical observatory to 60%. My other 40% is being made up currently by contracting.

    My tax rate on the contracting 40% is 43% – because it includes a 15% self employment tax, to cover social security and medicare.

    And this is a handout to me?

    • boatboy_srq

      Yes. Because you still have employment.

      /s

    • CraigNJ

      So you have a problem paying the same taxes the rest of us do? The difference is that the extra tax you pay is usually paid by the employer but being self employed you are your own employer so you have to pay both employer and employee taxes. It is the favorite way companies shift their expenses to “contractors” like yourself.

      • kanehau

        Uh, no. I have no problem paying the taxes. What I have a problem with is paying the taxes but then being accused of getting a handout when I take SS, etc.

        I guess I was not clear in my post.

        • CraigNJ

          No problem, I may have been a bit sensitive on it too. My husband is self employed and I’m well aware of the tax implications. As big a pain as the tax thing is the up side is you do get to be your own boss, at least 40% of the time.

  • customartist

    But of course we will be “Mandated to buy it” – THE VERY THING that conservatives complained about with Obamacare.

    Thanks Republican Voters for the “Change”!

  • Hue-Man

    When Medicare gets privatized, administrative costs will be much more than the 25% estimated by the Commonwealth Fund. Overheads at Medicare are 2% but that doesn’t include the billing costs of medical practitioners and hospitals. Of course, those higher administrative costs will mean higher insurance premiums for the seniors who are the new privatized insurance “customers”.

    Two bullet points from the report:

    Reducing U.S. spending on a per capita basis to Canada’s level would have saved $158 billion in 2011

    There was no apparent link between higher administrative costs and better-quality care.

    http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/in-the-literature/2014/sep/hospital-administrative-costs
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6d50912a03f87523d30fbb9d80a48442f437fe8aacb4dce17afd1bd7a1f9803e.png

  • David Walker

    I’ve discovered that there are some pretty awful things that can happen as you grow older. However, some good things crop up, too. Lower admission prices sometimes, senior discounts, free inner-city bus rides (thanks to the PA Lottery). Perhaps the best is knowing there are fewer days ahead of me than behind me and that, with luck, I won’t have to put up with this shit anymore. I don’t much care for the lyric, but the title says it all: Komm, süßer Tod, komm selge Ruh

  • andrew

    Fasten your seat belts folks, we’re in for a hazardous 2 year ride.

  • Ginger Snap

    We’re Fucked! It’s all I have left in me to say.

  • Piet

    This is a man who has spent his entire life supported by the government, from his childhood getting Social Security survivors’ benefits through state-sponsored scholarship and then government work. He has no experience of living like a non-state-supported person at all. Every minute of his experience has been lived with his lips wrapped tight around the government teat. He doesn’t give a flying god damn about his constituents, no matter what he says. It’s all theoretical for him, and as long as he himself doesn’t suffer he’s not going to be unhappy.

    • sTv0

      Aye, and he’s set for life as it is, so he doesn’t *have* to give said flying goddamn. All he has to do is keep his lips wrapped around the teat or the balls of his wealthy cronies.

      God, what a visual that brings…erk…

  • NancyP

    The Ryan Death Committees! Wallet not full? No care for you!

  • labman57

    Ryan and his fellow health insurance lobby lackeys in the Republican Party seek to rehash his heavily discredited proposals from 4 years ago — eliminate Medicare as we know it and replace it with a voucher system that will cover only a small fraction of the elderly’s health care needs.
    … and with it the ability of future senior citizens to obtain affordable chronic condition treatment and preventative health care.

    And just to top it off, Ryan supports the privatization of Social Security so that Americans would be forced to play Russian Roulette with their retirement savings.

    Because, after all, they have their health care coverage and government pension plans — to hell with anyone who doesn’t.

  • TheManicMechanic

    Accelerate the dying of the elderly and the Repugs will lose a sizable chunk of their base.