Russian Diplomat: We Conferred With Trump Campaign

The Washington Post reports:

Russian government officials had contacts with members of Donald Trump’s campaign team, a senior Russian diplomat said Thursday, in a disclosure that could reopen scrutiny over the Kremlin’s role in the president-elect’s bitter race against Hillary Clinton.

Facing questions about his ties to Moscow because of statements interpreted as lauding Russian President Vladi­mir Putin, Trump repeatedly denied having any contact with the Russian government.

After the latest statement by the Russian diplomat, the spokeswoman for the Trump campaign, Hope Hicks, denied there were interactions between Russia and the Trump team before Tuesday’s election.

“The campaign had no contact with Russian officials,” she said in an email. But Russia’s Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov, in an interview with the state-run Interfax news agency, said that “there were contacts” with the Trump team.

“Obviously, we know most of the people from his entourage,” Rybakov said. “Those people have always been in the limelight in the United States and have occupied high-ranking positions. I cannot say that all of them but quite a few have been staying in touch with Russian representatives.”

“We have just begun to consider ways of building dialogue with the future Donald Trump administration and channels we will be using for those purposes,” Ryabkov was quoted as saying.

  • Todd20036

    And yet people would be screaming “TREASON” if Clinton even hinted at doing this.

    But fascists love fellow fascists, so it’s ok with Drumpf.

    • joeyj1220

      Yeah, my first thought was surely THIS could be the issue that gets Trump into political hot water…but I am coming to realize that when it comes to his supporters, NOTHING will touch him

      • J Ascher

        He really is a Teflon Don, much to our dismay.

      • glass

        I hope there are reporters & private investigators looking into everything he has done since he was 10 years old. This guy is worse than Nixon and needs his whole life published with hard facts for everyone to see.
        He is scum and has scammed his way to the presidency.

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      • Orly

        As Newt Gingrich himself said (paraphrasing): Facts don’t matter. What people believe is what matters.

    • RaygunsGoZap

      I think the Russians wanted Trump as President but they don’t want him unifying this country or supported by most. This may be true but is just as likely lies meant to stoke internal conflict.

    • Buford

      It looks bad, but the Bloomberg version of this story says that Russians were in contact with both Trump and Clinton camps and suggests that it’s normal protocol.

      http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-10/russia-says-it-was-in-contact-with-trump-s-team-during-campaign

      Another version I read said that Clinton’s camp was approached and refused to make contact… so it’s more complicated than simply a Trump+Russia pact.

  • Steve Morrison

    IMPEACH THE FASCIST TRUMP! THIS IS TREASON

    • Andy King

      Careful with impeachment talk. As much as I abhor the idea of a Trump presidency, Pence taking the reins in his place is unthinkable.

  • Oikos

    Contacts as in vote rigging?

  • PickyPecker
    • Ray Taylor

      Just watch their mouths, You can tell which one is lying.

    • another_steve

      PP — Perhaps on January 20, 2017 (Inauguration Day), we can begin a
      4-year countdown to Taco Tuesday?

  • Silver Badger

    How much is Pence implicated? He needs to go first. Then dump Trump.

    • BudClark

      He was probably kept out of the loop for the sake of plausible deniability.

      • Ray Taylor

        Pence is there for the fundamentalists.

      • Chuck in NYC

        It’s surely Manafort and his immediate entourage. Possibly Ailes. Possibly/probably lower-ranking people in the Trump Organization recruited to the campaign who normally work on real estate deals.

  • Marc

    This is as shocking as exit polls showing Trump’s supporters were “more likely not to accept election results.”

  • Kelly Lape

    Republicans will never investigate another Republican. Treason is part and parcel with these bastards.

  • DaveW

    Half this country, at least, are complete idiots. How could we elect this clown who is totally out of his league?

    • LookielouE1707

      This is probably true in a different sense than you mean. The people who voted for Trump are not so much stupid as evil, but the half of America that didn’t bother to vote are stupid.

  • BudClark

    If we were in a “declared” war, Trump and Co. would be hanged as traitors. Sadly, we can only send them to prison for a VERY long time for committing sedition.

    • Much as i agree it isn’t going to happen.

    • David Walker

      So we go from “hanging chads” to “hanging Vlads.” That’s progress, right?

  • SoCalGal20

    This is OT but here’s a demographic breakdown of WHO actually voted for Trump. It was people 45 and older who elected him. I don’t know what percentage of the different age groups didn’t show up to vote but I’m just saying. Also, if anybody has access to any better demographic info please post it. I just found this on a quick search.

    http://college.usatoday.com/2016/11/09/how-we-voted-by-age-education-race-and-sexual-orientation/

    • Sam_Handwich

      We can also blame large swaths of the Obama coalition who stayed home on Tuesday.

      • SoCalGal20

        Who stayed home? Sorry, I’ve been trying to avoid a lot of the news. Like, I know large numbers of people did show in Philly and did show up in Las Vegas. In the case of Las Vegas it was a lot of first-time voters. So did we swap previous voters for first-time voters in some areas?

        And obviously in places like NC and WI voter suppression did play a big role in keeping people from voting. I saw a tweet about WI where the hard ID law kept 300,000 from being able to register. Clinton lost there by like 24,000 votes. And we know what happened in NC.

        • NancyP

          YES. That is why voter suppression laws exist. And look for voter suppression to get much worse. I bet if you asked any Missouri Trump voter what they know about Ferguson and about Black Lives Matter, they would say that BLM is a violent revolutionary group created to kill cops, and that Brown was a hardened killer. Now, the Ferguson matter was extensively covered in the main St. Louis newspaper, so there is NO EXCUSE for their opinion other than racism.

      • stuckinthewoods

        Truly. Below Vox link suggest the turnout was lower than 2012.
        “Clinton garnered 129,000 fewer votes in heavily
        Democratic Detroit than Obama did four years ago — and lost the state by around 61,000 total votes. She also got 95,000 fewer votes in heavily Democratic Milwaukee than Obama did — and lost the state by 73,000 total votes.”
        http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/9/13573904/voter-turnout-2016-donald-trump

      • Buford

        Yep…once again, Dem apathy (and butt-hurt Bernie supporters) doomed the progressive cause in the US.

    • GayOldLady

      I am not surprised at all.

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      Yes and 98% of those 45 and older who voted for this titanic disaster are under-employed and or lower income, disaffected, blue collar white people who will have their health insurance yanked out from under them.
      but they wont even learn then.
      I will bet what little sanity I have left that the way they will kill obamacare is simply to defund it.
      They will let it wither such that they can blame it on obama and the dems.
      And the public that voted for this mess will just agree. Like little sheeple.

      • Scott MB

        You forgot uneducated as well. He went for the angry fed up with government working class. These people are mostly uneducated, ie. no college or only some college. The vote with their fear not their knowledge. He played on it. I saw on CNN that night one of the commentators, Van something or other, put it perfectly. Trump is a TV and reality show personality. In reality shows who is always the most loved? The person who treats everyone with respect and dignity? No, it is the total asshole who shits on everyone and causes the most problems. Does that sound familiar? Trump played the total asshole and played the American people like a violin in the hands of a master. America so relates to Reality TV because they think it is real, but it isn’t. It is just scripted nonsense with frankenedits to make people either look like idiots, asshole or morons. He played on that demographic and they dropped to their knees and took it all in deep.

        • NancyP

          Motivations are likely to be different for different income ranges. There had been a pre-election survey (based on fairly large numbers) showing that the median income of likely/definitely Trump voters was above the USA median income by some $7,000.00. I interpret that as reflecting insecurity in the some-college group over the possibility that they may fall back to the economic level of the high school or less group, along with the usual stew of anger against (striver) college graduate women and blacks for “taking the job which rightfully should be mine”. The white college graduates probably feel insecure as well. Notably, the white college grads who ought to feel MOST insecure, the 25 to 29 year olds, seem to prefer the optimistic Clinton. Trump-voting whites with postgraduate educations are likely protecting their portfolios and would vote for any eligible Republican because taxes. There will still be a fair amount of anger at the uppity woman Clinton.
          I think that a fair number of the white high school or less potential voters just did what they always do, not vote.

    • Blackfork

      I’ve been informed that college-educated women went for Trump. T or F?

      • NancyP

        white college graduate women, 51% Clinton, 45% Trump, 4% other.
        vs. white no-college women 34% Clinton, 62% Trump, 4% other

        This is really interesting. And, not surprisingly, a sizable minority (15%) of voters don’t trust the integrity of the vote.
        http://www.cnn.com/election/results/exit-polls/national/president

    • Scott MB

      My husband brought up a great point, the problem is if Dems don’t have their “perfect” candidate they won’t vote or will vote Independent. Polls showed that people didn’t trust Hillary, especially millennials, that is fine. However, we all still needed to get behind our candidate, whomever he or she is, to avoid this possible shit show. Dems need to get the stick out of their asses and stop being whining little bitches if they can’t have EVERYTHING they want in a single candidate. The perfect candidate DOES NOT EXIST!!! That one single candidate that is going to be able to fix every issue you want them to DOES NOT EXIST!!! We need to start looking at what issues is this candidate going to be able to fix. Now this next candidate can fix these issues, the next can fix these and so on. If you really think that a President can fix every issue in a four year term or even eight if they are lucky, you are completely delusional.

      It is these people, the ones that either didn’t vote or voted for and Independent, they voted Trump into office. This is on their shoulders, the fault is all their own and they have ZERO room to complain about it. Your little whiney ass protest votes cost Hillary the race and you should be ashamed of yourselves!

      • NancyP

        1. The majority (55%) of “Millennials” DID vote for Clinton. 8% voted for Johnson/Stein/MacMullin/write-in, 37% for Trump. There are certainly enough millennial men from families in the top 10% (obligate rite of passage to be conservative-libertarian, hence Johnson voters) and enough “pious” conservative millennial men and women (Johnson, MacMullin voters) to account for most of the “other candidate” voters. I suspect that the percentage of hard-core liberal voters in the “other” column would be 1% to 2%. So blame the 1% to 2% for protest votes, not all millenials.

      • lymis

        Add to that the fact that in the Twitter/Facebook world, a candidate can become “imperfect” far more easily. 58% of the American people believe that having a private server broke some criminal law. It raised some important questions, but having the server itself was never one of them.

        Nobody, even those who most sincerely believe that Bernie Sanders would have been a wonderful President, should believe for a moment that with the entire alt-rigtt and Breitbart arrayed against him in the general, there wouldn’t have been some sort of Twitter attack on him.

        A serious case can be made that Al Gore wasn’t president in part because people honestly thought he said he invented the Internet single-handed. One of Bernie’s charms was how unscripted he often was. But that gives a dedicated opposition with no regard for the truth a lot to hang stuff on.

        • Jerry

          The GOP wanted Bernie to be the nominee. They would have gone full McCarthyism, red scare, on him. Then there was the “90% tax increase” noise from Fox, et al. While I like him, I don’t think he’s particularly adept at fending off attacks.

    • MichaelJ

      There’s a lot of blame to go around. An interesting graphic of which groups voted more Republican than four years ago and which voted more Democratic (according to exit polls) can be found in: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/08/us/elections/exit-poll-analysis.html?action=click&contentCollection=Election%202016&region=Footer&module=WhatsNext&version=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&moduleDetail=undefined&pgtype=Multimedia
      (I just noticed that what’s on the NY Times website is not as extensive as what is in the print edition. Screw that.)

    • ChrisMorley

      The real ‘shy Trump’ vote – how 53% of white women pushed him to victory
      Early data suggest a clear majority of white women voted Republican,
      and supporters say Trump’s offensive remarks didn’t affect their
      decision

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/10/white-women-donald-trump-victory

    • ChrisMorley

      White men and white women. White men and women with degrees, and without. White men and women with more than $50,000.

      Much of the rhetoric before the election pointed towards Mr Trump’s
      support from white men, angered by the political establishment. However,
      exit poll data collected by Edison Research for the National Election
      Pool, a consortium of ABC News, the Associated Press, CBSNews, CNN, Fox News and NBC News and reported by The New York Times, gives a deeper insight into which groups his votes stemmed from.

      Analysis and breakdowns: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/who-voted-for-donald-trump-white-men-and-women-most-responsible-for-new-president-elect-voting-data-a7407996.html

  • Raising_Rlyeh
  • Frostbite

    You elected a communist, congratulations!

  • Bill Post

    Unfortunately without a Democratic Congress the only investigation we’ll get is more of Clinton’s emails. There’s work to do!

  • RobynWatts

    And yet, despite all of the evidence before the election that Trump was in cohorts with Putin, they still voted for him.

    Time to call the GOP for what they really are to this country…..TRAITORS!

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      Well russia is a democracy now. Its like sooo ok to be BFF’s with them
      Right? Fer sure dude. sig heil!

  • Raising_Rlyeh

    So, will Assange and Snowden apologize and admit they were wrong when Trump begins to limit freedom of speech. Of course fucking not. They’ll claim that Clinton would have been worse. I used to be OK with them, but now they both need .22 lead injections.

    • Assange is probably taking cash from Russia. He obviously is in bed with them.

      • Dazzer

        He’s done a talk show on RT, so he’s definitely been taking money from the Russians.

    • spamky

      Pretty sure Snowden was been against Drumpf for the entire election

      • Todd20036

        Snowden helped Trump by legitimizing WikiLeaks and Assausage.

        I’ve no sympathy for him. He actually managed to do what he set out to prevent.

        Brought fascism and corruption to America like it’s never been before.

        • bitwise

          You’ll have to explain how Snowden “legitimized” Wikileaks. Wikileaks was the vehicle for Manning’s leaks, not Snowden’s.

    • another_steve

      I don’t want them shot, but I want them both put on trial for treason.

  • GayOldLady

    DUH!

    • William

      Damn, I was gonna say that.

      • GayOldLady

        Go ahead, two “Duh’s” are better than one. 🙂

  • Dazzer

    And this will get precisely no coverage in the American media.

    • Cousin Bleh

      It’s an actual article from The Washington Post.

      • Dazzer

        Yep – but the news channels, et al aren’t going to run with it.

        • Cousin Bleh

          It’s on the Rachel Maddow blog right now, so without a doubt it will be covered on her show tonight.

          • Dazzer

            That’s good, then. It might have legs after all. Thank you, you’ve cheered me up.

          • Paula

            I wonder what is going to happen to Rachel now? Under Trump, she might just disappear. They will blame it on Lesbian domestic violence.

      • Todd20036

        Which is why I’m not cancelling my prescription with them.
        As imperfect as they are, they’re the best we have.

        • Cousin Bleh

          I tend to read WaPo and HuffPo regularly and then I click on whatever headlines in Google News get my attention.

          BTW, I think you mean “subscription” but today we could all use some extra prescriptions. 🙂

          • Todd20036

            Shit. I just saw the mistake.
            Keeping it though

        • Lena

          Cute! Subscription prescription …

          • Todd20036

            I’m old school. I read a PAPER

            Now get off of my lawn!

        • Ray Taylor

          Those are the best meds.

      • Acronym Jim

        The problem is, if it doesn’t get run on Fox “News,” the people who voted Trump will never hear it.

        • Cousin Bleh

          I think the real problem is they wouldn’t care.

    • MBear

      The american media sold you out

  • jimbo65

    And of course the MSM couldn’t have been bothered with exploring his Russian ties during the campaign. Imagine when Barack, Michelle,Malia and Sasha walk out of the White House for the final time. President Obama whispers in Michelle’s ear, “God help us all”

    • Ninja0980

      Of course not, they had to focus on e-mails, e-mails, e-mails!

      • William

        And documents stolen and edited by the Kremlin, leaked by Wikileaks.

        • David Walker

          It’s a lot sexier than a coup, easier to understand, and it’s what people want to know.

  • MBear

    Oh….but Trump isnt establishment. Lol f*cking retarded voters

    • Buford

      You mean lazy non-voters… 47% didn’t vote.

      • MBear

        even worse

    • glass

      Totally agree. Trump IS exactly what a dirty politician is like. He is a liar, he panders to anyone that will vote for him, he is money hungry, makes way too many promises without any details. He may not have ever held office, but he is a dirty politician. Actually he is worse since he has no clue what he is doing in office, NO clue!

      • MBear

        And “they” voted in all the republicans who’ve pretty much been holding congress forever, no?

        Idiots.
        Complete freakin idiots.

  • another_steve
  • Diomedes

    LOL. This little hysteria didn’t work before the election, and it won’t now.

    Also, here in Latin America, US ambassadors “confer” with right-wing opposition campaigns all the time, so, BOO HOO.

    • LookielouE1707

      If you don’t see the difference between the cooptation of a nation with no geopolitical significance and the cooptation of a nuclear power that happens to anchor every one of the alliances that have prevented WWIII over the past 70 years, you are even dumber than you seem.

  • Andy King

    It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if Russia slowly leaked that they were, informally at least, responsible for Trump’s ascent to the presidency. It weakens Trump’s “mandate”, and pisses off both Hawks and Doves. What better way to cripple an incoming administration?
    Putin has tools, not friends.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      … and a puppet is a useful tool/idiot.

    • crewman

      I think you’re right. Putin would throw Trump under the bus to destroy America. With Trump in place if Putin then revealed that Trump had gotten there through cheating, it would delegitimize Trump’s presidency and throw the country into chaos. Maybe Putin would get lucky and get people calling for large states to secede from union, or maybe he’d hit a home run and actually break up the country. Relatedly, Putin has bragged about success in breaking up Europe when the Brexit vote happened.

    • Nax

      What mandate? He LOST the popular vote.

      • Acronym Jim

        Hence the sarcasm quotes.

      • Kay

        CNN is projecting Trump to win the popular vote when the final tally is in.

      • lymis

        Of course he has a mandate, just like Bush did. Paul Ryan said so.

        /s

    • Dee

      You must admit. Putin is a damn smart KGB.

    • DesertSun59

      Nope. Nothing will ‘weaken’ his fake mandate. He will take a page from the W/Cheney playbook and they will forcefeed us their fake mandate.

  • olandp

    Welcome to the USSA.

  • BearEyes

    first the wikileaks admission, now this. What’s the next Russian shoe to drop?
    How much did Manafort do behind the scenes to expose the tip of this iceberg?

    • lymis

      We won’t get a Russian shoe dropping unless it looks like Trump is going off script. If Putin’s happy with him, they’ll keep it in reserve. These look a lot more like warning shots (“We built you, we can destroy you”) than journalism.

  • unclemike

    Because of course they did.

  • dcurlee

    Our country is so fucked

  • RLK2

    Treason..Republicans are treasonous.

  • TexasBoy

    I’m sure FBI Chief Comey will get right on that. wink, wink, nod nod

    • canoebum

      I’d like to think there are some in the US intelligence and national security establishment that will not be OK with this, regardless of Comey’s calumny.

      • TexasBoy

        I’m sure there are, but with the incoming administration, do you think it will be any different?

    • marshlc

      Yeah, that’s what I was thinking “Scrutiny from whom?”

  • Slippy_World
  • Ninja0980

    There is no doubt Russia played a large part in helping Trump get elected.
    But it will never be investigated as long as Republicans are in power.

    • Snarky

      It will be investigated, but by the NYT or Slate or the Washington Post or the Guardian.

      • bobbyjoe

        Not the NYT. When the whole Russian server at Trump tower thing came out, they basically published one line in one article that said “oh, BTW, the FBI said there’s nothing to see there, so there’s nothing to see.” Meanwhile, having clear evidence that the FBI was doing things like using books by Breitbart contributers as “evidence”to open up new investigations of Hillary Clinton. The NYT is derelict in their duties as always.

  • Stephen Elliot Phillips

    Oh the republican insiders knew absolutely all of this was transpiring with putin/russia and trumps campaign.
    And it just goes to show the people who are left with brains the right wing power elite will do anything, everything and stop at nothing to gain total control over this pathetic, ailing, dump of a country.
    Long live the plutocrats
    we just voted the middle class out of existence

    • Ninja0980

      Yup, all those idiots who think Trump will help them… will be the first ones to suffer.

      • Ben in Oakland

        Hurray!

  • boatboy_srq

    Something something meeting something partition of Poland something.

    • Dazzer

      They’ll probably move on Latvia first.

      • BobSF_94117

        In mid-January, just before the transfer of power in the U.S., “terrorists” will interrupt the flow of Russian natural gas into Europe somewhere in Ukraine. Russia will “respond” by moving troops into the nations on her western borders to protect other pipelines, for the benefit of European consumers, of course. NATO and the U.S. will be thrown into confusion and indecision, with days or hours left to Obama’s term. Russian troops will “safeguard” NATO forces in their camps, for their own protection, of course. Trump will take the Oath of Office and, within hours, broker a “deal” that will safeguard Europe’s vital gas supply, return NATO troops to their home countries, because they’re no longer needed, as Russia will generously supply troops to protect the former Soviet satellites from “terrorists”. Trump’s first triumph… yay…

        • Dazzer

          Even a year ago I’d have given you the side eye. But today, that’s an entirely realistic scenario.

          • BobSF_94117

            A year ago, I’d have given myself the side eye, which sounds like it would have hurt…

          • BobSF_94117

            We live in a time when the American president says he wants to make America great again when what he really means is withdraw from international entanglements and the Russian president really, really does want to make Russia great again. (If only to avoid his people investigating his bulging bank accounts.)

            And, to top it all off, they’re buddies.

  • tcinsf

    Those of us old enough to have been told that you should move to the USSR if you don’t like America, which was code for “if you don’t like what the right wing is doing,” are having a hard time wrapping our heads around the idea that it’s the right wing that’s colluding with Russia.
    I don’t like this Brave New World.

    • Ben in Oakland

      Fascists are fascists, whether on the left or on the right. Their ideologies may differ, but not what they want in practicality.

    • NancyP

      +1,000

  • JellyDonut

    putin puppet

  • safari

    Continuing the long line of GOP presidents that work with foreign agents who are against American interests to get elected.

  • Robert Anthony

    Liars love a liar.

  • Acronym Jim

    Combine this guy with the official that admitted they had a hand in the wikileaks, add in a few more officials gloating about their involvement in the US Presidential race and maybe, just MAYBE, the electoral college will decide to go with the candidate that had the most votes nation-wide.

    • canoebum

      A rather thin hope, but laudable.

    • lymis

      And gods above, what a disaster that would be.

      I wanted Clinton to win, but if her presidency was going to be a shitshow after that campaign season, I can’t imagine what it would be like if that’s how she got into office.

      We’d be better off having a national Lottery, or letting Willie Wonka pick the winner.

      • Acronym Jim

        I WISH this election had been overseen by Willie Wonka.

        http://i.imgur.com/1HWQIPa.gif

      • IamM

        Constitutional crisis might not be as bad as a Trump Pence GOP shit show though. Problem being that all the institutions and norms that are supposed to make the situation manageable are too damaged or corrupted to be relied on.

  • BobSF_94117

    Is there any group of people more smarmy looking than right-wing Russian politicians?

  • HKDaniel

    Trump could shoot a blonde haired, blue eyed pregnant mother of 3 on the Washington Mall in full daylight and the congress not only wouldn’t impeach him, they’d probably give him a medal for defending the US against terrorism.

    IOBIADDI – it’s only bad if a democrat does it. The republican prime directive.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    Yup! We’re really fucking fucked. Oh George Orwell, you weren’t even close to how dystopian the future will be.

    War is peace
    Freedom is slavery
    Ignorance is strength

  • houstonray

    If EVER something deserved an investigation, it would be something like this. But of course we won’t get that…sigh.

    isn’t there something that could nullify this election? I swear to God every headline makes me think I’m in some sort of bad dream.

    • bobbyjoe

      The SNL skit had it so right last week: Trump could have literally been caught kissing Putin on the lips, and the US media would have still been “no, not enough of a story. Now, back to those Hillary emails…”

  • Smartypants

    This is a serious violation of US law. The Logan Act was passed in 1799 to forbid individual citizens from engaging in diplomacy. Trump’s campaign collaborated with a hostiles state to sway a U.S. election. There are several high crimes and misdemeanors going on here.

    • bobbyjoe

      Can we please, please, please get some high-ranking Democrats to start basically yelling this all over the media (the way the GOP would do), instead of meekly calling for “unity”? This is treason, for the Love of God, and it impacts not just the future of the USA but of the world.

      • J Ascher

        Top Democrats are too busy planning the next trip to the day spa.

    • Tor

      Hello, President Pence.

    • J Ascher

      It’s not the first time a Republican presidential campaign has been in contact with a hostile foreign government. In the 1980 election, Reagan’s people made a deal with the Iranian government then holding dozens of American hostages.

  • lymis

    I’m honestly not surprised.

    Let’s take for granted for a moment that the Russians saw an opportunity here. The opportunity that they saw was far more likely a chance to completely disrupt America, sew discord, and damage our image in the world community than simply some desire to get Donald Trump in office because of who he is as a person.

    By getting as involved as they could manage, and then turn around and immediately admit to their “involvement,” they make it clear that the US is subject to such influence, that we have no effective cybersecurity, that they can interfere with impunity, and, presumably, by implication, that nobody else is safe either.

    They won’t claim direct interference, but they don’t need to. And as a bonus, they get the first ever President with no political or diplomatic experience, in charge of a country that’s more angry and divided than ever in recent memory. The fact that Donald is a narcissistic egomaniac is just a bonus.

    And seriously, if they can go from here – influencing things enough so that they can get Trump in office, and then turn around and gradually leak enough damning information that we drive him OUT of office, the national and international trust in our government, and the political and economic damage will be incalculable.

    If Trump becomes unpopular enough (not a tough feat given his current approval ratings, before even day one) the establishment Republicans will see it as a chance to try to seize back control from the Trump wing of their own party.

    Just another scary though. There’s no possibility that the Russians could or would be able to happily wander through the emails of the Democrats and not be able to do the same with the Republicans. It was in their best interest till now to appear to have done so. But there’s no chance they don’t have as much or more on the Republicans, whether they start Wikileaking that, or holding it over individuals’ heads as blackmail, if it’s juicy enough. And we know for a fact that the Russians own a serious chunk of Trump’s debt.

    There’s just no way that the schmucks in Congress are cybersecurity ninjas if our state department can’t figure out how to have the Secretary use her Blackberry securely.

    • Mark

      And add that Comey/FBI is definitely under Republican control

  • Mark

    A couple months back there was a lotta yak about states being targeted by Russian hacks. Then a couple days before the election, there was more yak about how America was beefing up it cyber-security for the election.

    And now crickets. Disturbingly, crickets. Not even a news feed that said they didn’t get past our defenses.

    As in events past, silence is complicity.

  • xersnoyl

    When does being a stupid fuck, turn into treason?

    • Robert Conner

      You’d have to ask George W. Bush.

  • TrollopeReader

    Da.

  • Charlie

    is anyone really surprised? Herr Drumpf said explicitly that the election was rigged…he may have even said ‘rigged for Hillary’…but did he ever follow that up with a clarification that it was rigged for Hillary to win or lose? I don’t know…I tried to avoid listening to him say mostly nothing since sometime in July.

  • Smartypants

    The kleptocrats are dividing the spoils.

  • Paula

    Damn! That guy looks like some villain out of a Scooby Doo cartoon. What a pasty faced ghoul.

    • William

      He would have gotten away with it, if it hadn’t been for you meddling kids!

    • agcons

      They all look like they’ve been blanched like so much endive. It must be a requirement for a government position there.

  • NancyP

    The Trump voters DON’T CARE. The ones with power and access just want low taxes on their own (top 1%) income category. They don’t care if Europe breaks apart and we go back to the Cold War.

  • TampaZeke

    That’s no big deal!

    Let’s get back to Hillary’s E-MAILS!

  • J Ascher

    If true, and I’m loath to trust the Russians, this should be grounds for serious legal charges to be brought against Trump and Pence!

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    It’s most likely true, but unfortunately no one will care, certainly not the FBI under James Comey. Even if evidence came out that categorically proved it to be true, I honestly don’t think the Trumpanzees would care. There’s is not a love of democracy or country, there’s is a love being White and in control.

    • IamM

      I couldn’t help thinking that even if there weren’t any contact, which there probably was, suggesting now that there was would still be a good way for the Russians to sow more suspicion here and internationally.

  • James

    Investigated by whom? And with what consequences? The Republicans don’t have the integrity to impeach their own president.

  • Mark

    Somebody talk me down off this ledge!

    There’s just too much “russia” – and by their own admission! – to be ignored. And I just don’t see the US sitting idly – twiddling their thumbs – while the world view of Putin’s infiltration of an US election goes unchecked.

    Trump bragged he was absolutely certain of a win – or else the election was rigged. Or was it already rigged (russia) – and if he lost it would prove that it was re-rigged? Was a ‘trap’ set? Was Comey’s “email” part of the scheme? Why hasn’t there been a follow up release of cyber-security status when the ‘threat’ was broadcast across all the media? Where is the NSA in all of this? Has the RNC turned a blind eye to attain control?

    And while i completely agree that Obama is a class act – even he has been way too cool.

    Something ain’t right. And little to nothing is being said.

  • cminca

    So everyone repeat after me—TRUMP is the illegitimate president:

    1. He did not get the popular vote.
    2. The vote was tampered with by an external foreign government. (Henceforth we should be calling him the “Kremlin Candidate” a la “The Manchurian Candidate”).

    Let us afford him all the respect and courtesy that was afforded President Obama who WAS legitimately elected. And let’s not forget the wife–our new First WHORE of the United States.

  • Richard

    I wonder if Trump will sell Alaska back to his buddy Putin? After he gives his billionaire/millionaire friends the biggest tax cut they’ve ever had he’ll need to get some money to fix those bridges and airports he talked about. It’ll be a big deal…he makes the best deals…..

  • DonnaLee

    I’m sure they’ve had conversations WAY before he was formally elected.

  • DesertSun59

    If you believe, for a single second that his seditious actions during his campaign will come back to bite him, you’re deluded.

    And, he will walk in both of his upcoming trials.

  • andrew

    Trumps Russian connections will eventually come out and we will see if the “patriotic” Americans who voted for this Russian tool are proud of themselves.

  • David From Canada

    If Trump and his cohorts were in touch with the devious Russian government during the campaign then the American government has the right to impeach him. With all the protests going on, he’s off to a bad start, period.

  • Readen Reply

    The Reagan team pulled the same shit and negotiated behind Carter’s back with Iran before the election.