ACLU To Trump: We’ll See You In Court

The Hill reports:

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) is warning President-elect Donald Trump that it will “see him in court,” threatening to use its “full firepower” if he tries to follow through on controversial campaign promises on immigration, torture and other issues.

“These proposals are not simply un-American and wrong-headed, they are unlawful and unconstitutional,” Anthony Romero, executive director of the ACLU, said in a statement Wednesday. “They violate the First, Fourth, Fifth, Eight and Fourteenth Amendments. If you do not reverse course and instead endeavor to make these campaign promises a reality, you will have to contend with the full firepower of the ACLU at every step.”

The ACLU specifically called out Trump’s promises to deport 11 million undocumented immigrants, ban Muslims from entering the country, surveil Muslim communities, punish women for getting abortions, reauthorize waterboarding and other forms of torture and change the country’s libel laws.

If Trump pursues any of those policies, Romero said, the ACLU’s lawyers, activists, volunteers and supporters “are ready to fight.”

“One thing is certain: we will be eternally vigilant every single day of your presidency and when you leave the Oval Office, we will do the same with your successor,” Romero said.

  • Kelly Lape

    That’s funny, the first thing will be his nomination to stack the court. Roll over, it’s done. America 1776-2016 may she rest in peace.

    • I am not sanguine about the End of the Country. We’ll likely be beaten and bruised, but not bowed.
      We shall see.

      • MonochromeMouse

        he will destroy the supreme court, they cannot be removed from the bench until they die or step down and trump has one slot to fill for sure and will probably get 3 more by the end of his term.

        • Neely OHara

          The nuclear option still exists…

          • aar9n

            Trump has the codes. Literally

          • MonochromeMouse

            assuming you mean how the senate has to approve any nominees, the house and senate are majority republican, even if they hate trump they will support his SC nominees, if you mean the actual nuclear option well as aar9n said below me, trump has that.

          • Neely OHara

            I meant the Senate option, but I guess without a majority that may be off the table. As for the other, God forbid…

        • Gerry Fisher

          The Supreme Court situation looks bleak.

        • BudClark

          Notorious Madam Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg will hang on until she’s 100 or more, if it’s necessary. So will the other liberal Justices.

          • (((GC)))

            May it be so!

          • Nax

            Delusional thinking didn’t help too much over the last couple of weeks.

    • Gerry Fisher

      It’ll take a while to stack the court properly. We may be able to get in a win or two before he manages it.

      • Dazzer

        The only chance the Democratic Party – indeed, the USA – has is to repeat the Get Out The Vote for the midterms.

        It won’t happen because the DNC isn’t strategic enough.

        • Misutaa Roboto

          And because lots of left-leaning voters now have a seething hatred for the DNC, are still convinced that they somehow rigged the primary and how this is all the DNC’s fault.

          • bill weber

            Simple: run progressives in the primaries. Every goddamn one.

          • sword

            One of the reasons fascists can so easily take over a ‘democratic’ government. The anti-fascists are too busy fighting over their little left-overs.

  • Jmdintpa

    im afraid you can wipe your ass with the constitution. it aint going to get settled that way. i hate to say it but its fight or roll over. how do we get involved with some underground group that can do whatever to undermine trump? if its violence… then so be it.

    • Ben in Oakland

      Violence?

      No thanks. If we go that route, Trump really did win.

    • aar9n

      No

    • Kelly Lape

      I disagree, I urge our remaining Democratic Senators and Congressmen to ABSTAIN on every single vote. Standing in the way will label us as obstructionists (I know Ironic) – and the inevitable failure will be left at our feet. Abstain let the GOP have their entire wish list. Let the country burn. Only then will these uneducated white racists pieces of shit pay for their stupidity.

  • Texndoc

    I’ve always thought in the unlikely hood of his being elected, those screaming the loudest for him would also be screaming the most after because he was never serious about half his crap. So build the wall in the first 100 days. Lets see it. Storm neighborhoods in the dead of night and take screaming kids from their parents.

    • MonochromeMouse

      and do like what they did or said they were going to do with obama, as soon as he takes the oath of office start calling any official numbers you can find and demand to know why every single problem hasn’t been fixed yet.

      • Gil

        Great advice…but give the schmuck a couple of weeks before you start whining…

    • Kelly Lape

      I think the first camps will be for the homeless. Easier targets that few people will stand up for. The homeless will build the camps where they’ll be “happy” – Smile and let them be taken or join them.

    • Dazzer

      It is a coincidence, but today is the anniversary of Kristallnacht.

  • JPH

    As much as I detest Donald Trump, I feel like it’s a TAD early to start picking fights, no?

    • MonochromeMouse

      fuck no, if anything they took too long to pick a fight with him.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      No. If you don’t start scraping immediately, the rot can set.

    • Cousin Bleh

      Honestly, it’s more too late than a tad early.

    • Blake Jordan

      When it comes to the rights of minorities, it is best to take the offensive…

    • TheSeer

      No it’s not early.

    • JCF

      Drumpf’s unconstitutional platforms is what it is. And must be resisted—IF he follows through on it.

    • Max_1

      When they come for you…
      Will you be saying, “I feel like it’s a TAD early to start standing up”?

  • S1AMER

    What court? Trump’s court?

    Say bye-bye to civil rights, LGBT rights, women’s rights, minoritys’ rights, every right. There’s a new court in town, and only big business and high finance and christianists can come knocking at the door for favors.

  • Neely OHara

    Time to switch the monthly donation from Hillary to ACLU…

    • Jerry

      I’ve been donating monthly to them for years, along with Planned Parenthood. Both groups do good work.

  • TxSE1

    Er… Consider that maybe he made some of those more outrageous promises because they have a loud bark, but realistically have no traction in practical application. It’s pretty politics101 to include big promises that you would be interfered from implementing.

    edit: I left in the accidental but goofy mixed metaphor. It’s that kind of day.

    • No dog whistling any more — loud barking is the fashion now.

    • lattebud

      Mitch McConnell has indicated that some of Trump’s promises will not see a vote in his Senate.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada
    • Gerry Fisher

      Chip and Skip and Scooter and [whatever the male version of “Buffy” is]

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        Don’t forget their buddy Biff Tannen

      • Kelly Lape

        Biff. Biff is the masculine form of Buffy.

      • JCF

        Kip. And Tripp.

      • Professor Barnhardt

        Trey.

      • EweTaw

        Tupper.

        OT aside: When I adopted my dogs the Vet recommended that I give them both names with strong T and K sounding consonants — Tucker, Chuck, Lucky, Teddy, Tiddlywinks, etc. According to the Vet dogs perk up and respond to those sounds. Turns out he was correct. Taco and Tico definitely understand who is who and what is what when I talk to them.

    • Nasty Girl Brianna

      Looks like the Brooks Brothers are back.

    • NancyP

      The gay ones better be prepared to hire bodyguards. They have NO IDEA how many right wing Christians would like to kill them. Any clean-shaven guy who works in an office already looks like a fag to them, no matter how butch they try to act.

  • Rex

    Trump’s very familiar with the courtroom. He’s going to be spending a lot of time there.

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      He’ll pardon himself. Actually, I think the Republicans are hoping he goes to prison and passes the torch to Mike Pence.

  • Commentator8

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/62949c3f8011ce10d4979613d0d883b7e4c38c90e851b921b94f1ac6ce900edf.png

    Bernie supporters tried to warn it off, but the DNC refused to listen. I’m glad DWS won re election, so she can now see what she could’ve had the chance to avoid by running an objective primary

    • MonochromeMouse

      none of that is true, and i think you know it.

      • Commentator8

        Then tell me why Republicans WANT Hillary to win? It’s because they had all kinds of things on her, I haven’t heard anything on Bernie outside of “He’s a Socialist, he’s too far to the left” In many of the states with open primaries he won them, including ones Clinton needed like WI MI

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      Actually, it’s a puerile falsehood. Yes, they may have warned it off, but they ultimately chose to contribute to Trump by either voting for him (which makes no sense), voting 3rd party (which helped Trump) or stay at home. They share the blame and your faux rationalizations don’t change that very real, empirically evident fact.

      • Commentator8

        Clinton nor Trump had a patent on my vote.

    • MaryOGrady

      A Jewish socialist. Sure, that would have worked really well in the general election.

      • Commentator8

        It worked well enough in the primary so much Clinton couldn’t put him away easily

    • The_Wretched

      Go away, you’re trolling and sowing dissent. Actual bernie supporters do not agree with you.

      • Todd20036

        Hell, Bernie himself didn’t agree with you

      • Commentator8

        Sowing dissent? Dissent was putting forth a weak candidate and expecting her to win when she alienated so many voters

        If they had listened to DISSENT we would’ve had a better chance at taking the WH and Senate

    • Gerry Fisher

      Not really the time or place for this, IMO. A better conversation might be, “How can we get the DNC to meet with and cooperate with Bernie moving forward? Now that ‘going moderate’ failed, how can we reshape the Democratic Party to be more effective?” (The irony is that the Dems are so afraid of someone like Bernie being seen as “too radical,” when there’s nothing more “radical” in general than electing Donald Trump.)

      • Commentator8

        It IS the time and place, when people ignore warnings to their peril and the undesired outcome happens it becomes obvious whether or not they learned their lesson. It is said they did the same thing in 2004, I wasn’t around to see that one, but I wouldn’t put anything over on the Establishment

    • Kelly Lape

      Doesn’t matter who’s to blame. The fire is burning and the only fire company is owned by the arsonists.

    • JCF

      Ah yes. Those now unimpeachable “polls”.

      • Commentator8

        He was the better candidate and the DNC knew it

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      You are a moron. The GOP would have annihilated him. Bernie’s skeletons are a hellova lot worse than some fucking emails and centrist speeches.

      https://sheriffali.com/2015/11/14/if-bernie-sanders-won-the-democratic-party-nomination-the-gop-would-drop-their-campaign-of-manufactured-lies-against-hillary-clinton-and-immediately-begin-dumping-bernie-sanders-closet-full/

      You think Clinton’s numbers are bad with Independents and Republicans. That’s nothing compared to what Sander’s would have been.

      • Commentator8

        If he had those skeletons, why haven’t they caught on? Oh…I guess it’s because of the fact that he stuck to the issues instead of mud slinging.

        Also, I don’t see any citations…further, why did he win open primary states if he were doing terrible with Independents?

      • Commentator8

        Bernie brought out Independents and more Republicans would’ve crossed over to support him. Clinton couldn’t even bring out black voters and she even lost the blue wall…she’s pathetic. Further, Socialism isn’t as a dirty word as it was and he’d have been able to beat back the “annihilation” pretty easily and not get bogged down letting Republicans control the narrative

  • Lazycrockett

    He will just get rid of the ACLU.

    • MaryOGrady

      Others have tried. The ACLU is not going anywhere.

    • lib_tearz

      Good Riddance. They don’t do shit.

  • Lazycrockett
    • David L. Caster

      They ought to know that it doesn’t work that way.

      • MonochromeMouse

        no, but it sends a message, and if they keep with it it could start a movement.

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        I’m with them. He will never be my president.

        • PickyPecker

          Nor mine….in any way.

        • MonochromeMouse

          hell yeah, he stole the election, hillary won the popular vote, as far as i’m concerned he is the usurper resident of the united states.

          • EweTaw

            Yes. She’s won the popular vote by about 2oo,ooo+. Gore lost the Electoral College because of 534 lousy votes for curiouis george. Go figure.

          • bill weber

            Do you know how the president is elected? No.

          • MonochromeMouse

            yes, but he is not the president of the people.

      • Misutaa Roboto

        I’m generally sympathetic to their politics, but I don’t think a lot of people in certain liberal bubbles live in reality any more than some of the right wingnuts. He may not represent them or what they believe in, but the fact is that he is about to have quite a lot of power.

        • NancyP

          Well, yes. That’s what has us terrified. He has nuclear capabilities as C-in-C, he has said “why don’t we use our nuclear arsenal”, he has no impulse control and a bad temper, thinks he knows more than any of the generals, and he doesn’t listen to advisors. Let’s hope the Armed Forces nuclear personnel have enough sense to delay, delay, delay.

          Look. If this were any other of the presidential primary candidates winning, we wouldn’t be nearly as terrified. Career politicians generally like to keep their jobs as long as possible and then retire wealthy. I don’t think that any of the others really wants to bring on Armageddon for religious reasons, at least while they are alive.

    • djcoastermark

      Not that their actions will or can change anything but at least they are letting their voice be heard.

    • Blake Jordan

      He is going to be one of the most disliked and disrespected men on the planet (and not just the USA)…

      The scary part is his nano-thin skin will have him violently retaliate!!!

      • Lazycrockett

        going to be?

        • Dreaming Vertebrate

          I despise him thoroughly already.

      • glass

        Agreed, he is now hated internationally. I hope he payed attention to how nasty people have been to Obama, because he is going to be treated even worse than that. He is a liar and a con man.
        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/33ad66a228a93cdcb591896c935a519c1e1be868149b0fb56d36fef532c9f29d.jpg

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    • Blackfork

      THIS.

    • Kelly Lape

      Yay! More kids adding to their own ignorance by skipping what few days a school has to offer in today’s economy.

      With their added ignorance it’s only a matter of time before they join the GOP Bandwagon.

  • bobbyjoe

    The one thing that I AM seriously furious at the Democrats over is in not fighting hard for Obama’s USSC nomination. Seriously– they just left that out there, with sort of a “okay, let’s just wait, lah dee dah” which now leaves Trump with one guaranteed USSC nom that will easily get through the Republican House and Senate.

    I never got the strategy here, if there was any. Maybe they’d have lost a hard fight, but it would have made the Democrats look like actual fighters, and it would have pushed the Supreme Court front and center in the election when you really, truly could have used Trump’s plans for the USSC to scare more voters.

    Instead, I feel like we barely heard a peep about the Supreme Court, and this was one of the most crucial things, and one that will haunt generations to come. WTF were they thinking?!!

    • MonochromeMouse

      unfortunately the senate, who has final say-so on supreme court nominees, is majority republican, and the republicans wouldn’t have listened to the democrats on anything, let alone a supreme court nomination from their enemy obama.

      • bobbyjoe

        True, but the fight itself was important. Play up the obstructionism, the lack of patriotism, the genuine unfairness, the elitist “the Supreme Court belongs to us” attitude of the GOP– and make more voters worried about what Trump would do with the USSC. Those things needed to be loudly heard during the election.

        THAT was important, even if we did inevitably lose the fight with the Senate. I just don’t understand why they just let that go when even the fight itself was so vitally important.

        • Maybe he can appeal their lack of a hearing/nomination obstruction to the sitting court

    • The_Wretched

      They didn’t want to ‘distract’ from the campaign. I agree, they should have made the noise.

    • NancyP

      Yes, I am furious with them on that.

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    Tip: Don’t forget to simply block each troll. Do not feed the trolls.
    Use killfile for particularly obnoxious ones.

    • PickyPecker

      So far it seems to be ‘Lib-tearz’. I’m assuming Joe is removing those posts as soon as they appear.

      • Todd20036

        He doesn’t have a real account, so unless you have killfile, you cannot block him. You can flag him, as I do

        • Dreaming Vertebrate

          That’s the ticket!

      • EweTaw

        I’m surprised our old friend Clungeflapperamabot hasn’t appeared to entertain us with his Alt-Right hate.

    • Nasty Girl Brianna

      What is this “killfile” that you speak of?

  • Todd20036

    Down voted.
    Reported.
    Fuck off.

    • Nasty Girl Brianna

      Trying to block that motherfucker but it seems impossible for some reason.

      • Larry Gist

        Yeah what is up with that? Are we not allowed to block the KKK or SS officers now that Trump is in power?

      • PickyPecker

        The disqus ‘block’ feature only works on users who have a registered account. This is one of the nitwits who doesn’t (aka. coward, hit-n-run poster).
        Your best options are to ‘flag,’ ‘downvote’ and engage an extension called ‘Killfile’ (a freebie which allows you to block seeing the inane comments and keep your thread cleaner).

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        Download killfile. It installs with no effort. Literally I just clicked the download button for this Chrome extension and was ready to go! Then mouse over the offending user. You will see [hush] inside square brackets. Click it and done.
        Here is all I see from one certain troll:
        Comment by lib_tearz blocked.

  • Gerry Fisher

    You GO, Ms. Thang ACLU, you! [ahem…punchy from lack of sleep]

  • CharlestonDave

    Maybe one useful thing to do at this sad moment is to join the ACLU.

    Methinks they’re going to have their hands full over the next few years, and would welcome the support.

  • KnownDonorDad

    And this is why who appoints the judiciary is so important.

  • JCF

    THAT is the spirit! Time to write checks to the ACLU y’all…

  • Professor Barnhardt

    Related enough:

    Who will Donald Trump nominate to Supreme Court? Alabama native, former AG Bill Pryor among contenders
    http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2016/11/who_will_donald_trump_nominate.html

    and

    Klan will ‘hold Trump’s promises close;’ drops fliers in Alabama
    http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2016/11/klan_will_hold_trumps_promises.html#incart_river_home

    • EweTaw

      Roy Moore is expecting a call.

  • TuuxKabin

    Damn it to hell. Damn it all to hell.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow-qilruZCE

  • karen in kalifornia

    NPR has a reprint of Trump’s mid October promises of what he will do immediately after becoming president. Yep. See you in court and I’m sending my annual ACLU contribution early this year.
    http://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501451368/here-is-what-donald-trump-wants-to-do-in-his-first-100-days

  • TrollopeReader

    O/T: Well, Brian Brown is happy and has a “Plan”:

    Donald Trump has won a historic election, an unprecedented victory that has
    turned the establishment upside down. We heartily congratulate him and
    his team on their incredible win. President-elect Trump will now turn his
    attention to governing, and NOM is committed to working with him. We are
    confident that our voice and our views will be important in a Trump
    administration.

    Here is our plan:

    We will work with President Trump to nominate conservative justices to the
    U.S. Supreme Court, individuals who will adhere to the words and meaning of the constitution. Such justices will inevitably reverse the anti-constitutional ruling of the Supreme Court imposing same-sex ‘marriage’ on the nation in the Obergefell decision, because that decision lacked any basis in the constitution.

    We will work with President Trump to rescind the illegal, over-reaching
    executive orders and directives issued by President Obama, including his
    dangerous “gender identity” directives, attempting to redefine gender just as he sought to redefine marriage.

    We will work with President Trump to reverse policies of the Obama
    administration that seek to coerce other countries into accepting same-sex ‘marriage’ as a condition of receiving US assistance and aid. It is fundamentally
    wrong for a president to become a lobbyist for the LGBT agenda, and we are
    confident that will end in the Trump administration.

    We will work with President Trump and Congress to pass the First Amendment Defense Act (FADA), which Mr. Trump supports. FADA is critical legislation to protect people who believe in marriage from being targeted by the government for persecution.

    This is a bright and exciting time for NOM, and we are committed to taking
    full advantage of the opportunity we have. Our voice and our views matter to the
    incoming administration, and that means your voice and views matter.”

    UGH,

    • Schlukitz

      Well, considering how NOM’s funding has pretty much dried up and considering Bri Bri’s endless money begs as of late, I wonder if President Drumpf will be willing to send him a weekly paycheck at NOM and which comes out of his own pocket, of course.

  • JT

    Go after the ignorant asswipe.

  • sword

    With the Supreme Court even farther to the right…do you think that the ACLU has even a 10% chance of getting anything corrected?

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      Nope.

  • Schlukitz

    As a gay, financially supporting member of ACLU for over a half century and having received yet another money beg from them just a few minutes ago, I am somewhat dismayed that no mention was made of Trump/Pence’s promise to roll-back marriage equality for LGBT people.

    • leastyebejudged

      I suspect they were just as ill prepared for this as the rest of us ?

      Funny thing a Trump supporter said to me today on the phone that “nobody believes he’s actually going to do any of those things”.

      • Maggie 4NoH8

        I’ve heard that too…