Homocon Peter Thiel: What Trump Represents Isn’t Crazy And It’s Not Going Away After The Election

CNBC reports:

Tech entrepreneur Peter Thiel amped up his support for Donald Trump on Monday, saying the billionaire businessman gets “the big things” right despite “offensive and inappropriate” remarks. “No matter what happens in this election, what Trump represents isn’t crazy and it’s not going away,” he said, according to prepared remarks. “He points toward a new Republican Party beyond the dogmas of Reaganism. He points even beyond the remaking of one party to a new American politics that overcomes denial, rejects bubble thinking and reckons with reality.

“When the distracting spectacles of this election season are forgotten and the history of our time is written, the only important question will be whether or not that new politics came too late.” Speaking at the National Press Club in Washington, Thiel amplified on his support for the Republican nominee to whom he donated $1.25 million in a move that stunned Silicon Valley and has led to him being ostracized by his peers.

  • PickyPecker
  • Do Something Nice

    He’s right. Racism, sexism and homophobia have been with us forever.

    • Michael White

      and have now become mainstream thanks to the yellow peril

      • Ray Butlers

        I think you should call him the “orange” peril just to avoid confusion.

  • Jon Doh

    But you are, and hopefully you will go away after the election.

    • Traxley Launderette

      His eventual fall into obscurity will be both highly-anticipated and well-deserved. Men like him leave no legacy that decent people will ever care to remember.

  • AtticusP

    We know that people like you won’t go away, asshole.

    But the decent people among us will do everything we possibly can to ostracize and marginalize you.

  • madknits

    He’s only half right.
    This shit isn’t going away.
    And Trump is crazy.

    • John30013

      Birds of a feather. Thiel and Trump both represent a personal philosophy driven by greed and devoid of any ethical consideration for the larger society. They’ve got theirs, and fuck everyone else.

      That’s nothing new, and it’s certainly not going away, so I’ll credit Thiel with that at least.

      • Dubito et cogitare

        Both suckled at the teats of Ayn Rand.

        • Jeffg166

          Old welfare queen that she was.

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      • Dave2

        Is nt he a one hit wonder anyway, most of the tech billionaires are not impressive. Slightly better than lottery winner so for trying but the period they succeeded in just speaks to luck

        Some have gone on like Musk (jury still out)

        I didn’t do it, too old, not risk taking enough, so I do admire their success but let’s be honest what caused it-current behavior proves my point.

        • gothambear

          Co-founded Paypal and first outside investor in Facebook – more than a 1 hit wonder. He’s very smart just deeply misguided and a sociopath…

      • MattPS

        I keep asking myself lately, how Trump supporters regard the famous JFK quote, “Ask not…”. Do they just think of it as some sort of pretty rhetoric, just empty words?

        • John30013

          I doubt they’ve even thought about it.

      • douglas
    • karmanot
    • Raybob

      The crazy has been here since the first Obama election, and it’s only gotten worse :-/

      • craigbear

        Obama? The crazy’s been here since the Bill Clinton years, at least.


    Memo to Peter Thiel : What the hell do you think Trump represents ? Anger, greed , homophobia, xenophobia, racism, stupidity … etc.

    • David Walker

      And money. Lots and lots of money. A whole lot of money, just like I’d have if my daddy gave me a million bucks.

      • PLAINTOM

        I can’t remember where I saw the article but it was a long investigative piece. It analyzed what Trump actually inherited ( including ” daddy loans ” ) and determined that if Trump had simply cashed out and put all the money in an index fund he would be worth approximately 12 Billion today. The article was pointing out that Trump’s claimed business skill was a fraud. In reality he is a bad businessman who simple hasn’t lost all the fortune he inherited from his father, YET.

        • Todd20036

          That’s correct. Trump isn’t even a good businessman – his only claim to fame.

          But then, good businessmen don’t declare bankruptcy multiple times nor pay $0 as a result for 20 years.

        • Dubito et cogitare

          Q: You know how to make a small fortune with Donald Trump?

          A: Give him a large one.

        • NancyP

          Cover article in Time or Newsweek

          • PLAINTOM

            Maybe, I can’t remember where I read it.

        • Chucktech
        • Ray Butlers

          Correct. He inherited money and then lost most of it. He’s incompetent. He’s not even smart enough to know that you need to HIRE people to run those businesses for you. They’ll be happy to work hard for you if you put up the capital. Everyone with an Ivy League education should know that.

          To be fair, real estate isn’t a simple or easy business, but come on. When you start out with a pile of cash and lose most of it during the biggest and longest real estate boom in history (particularly in New York), you should just put your money in the bank and make some nice safe interest.

          This guy couldn’t even sell neckties at Macy’s.

          • DaveW

            I started with nothing and have had 14 properties. Down to a handful. Still don’t know if I had invested all the expenses in the markets if I’d be ahead or not. Good thing I saved too, point is it’s not easy and it’s hard to predict where to focus. He seems to have built huge assets, can project manage, but not good at the finance side-probably spent too much on himself at high rates

            The so called inheritance? He leveraged all that in his first deal, that hotel on park. I think the rest is him and it’s not too impressive.

    • bambinoitaliano

      Everything that speaks to Peter Thiel values as a human scumbag.

  • Traxley Launderette


    That is all.

  • Ninja0980

    Fuck you traitor.

  • JellyDonut

    Trump is still gaining thanks to the asshat Comey

  • Steverino

    What can we say? Trump grabbed his pursey.

    • Chucktech

      Just let our economy collapse into depression and that pursey ain’t comin’ back.

  • Blake Jordan

    What the fuck is this faggot smoking!?!?!?

    Drumpf has not given details on any of the supposed plans he has to improve the USA!!!

    His campaign has been about racism, lies, complaining, insults,…

    • Whatever he’s smoking, it isn’t pole.

    • Todd20036

      And about white privilege.
      And for some alt-faggots, that’s all that matters

  • edrex

    i have a sincere question: exactly what is it that you think trump represents that needs a platform? i’m not that thick and i can hear other legitimate perspectives, but so far i can only see and hear the racism, homophobia, xenophobia, misogony etc.etc. i genuinely would like to understand what it is abt his “message” that you value? make your case, thiel, because your current messenger is an illiterate demagogue.

  • dcurlee

    Guess he’s listened to a different Trump than I have. Makes me want to puke listening to this guy

  • Lazycrockett

    He’s gonna cut taxes for the rich, that’s why POS like Thiel supports him. Who cares bout the hate that comes along with it when he’s gonna save him money. Greedy evil.

    • Ross

      A study was done about the top 1%.

      Many are, unsurprisingly, Republican. And Trump wants to LOWER their taxes.

      But…many are, surprisingly, voting for Hillary. Even though she will be RAISING their taxes.


      The explanation makes perfect sense. The financial advisers of the 1% have said that while they will pay more taxes under Hillary, their income should increase, too, and by more than enough to offset any tax hike.

      Donnie’s tax plan? The 1% will pay less taxes, sure, but this will be hugely offset by a dramatic decline in their income as he destroys the economy.

      Even CONSERVATIVE financial/tax people know that Donnie’s economic/tax plans are a disaster.

      • Chucktech

        Exhibit A: Warren Buffet.

  • Mike Rasor

    Says the man who has openly claimed democracy and freedom are incompatible.

  • DesertSun59

    Um, what Trump ‘represents’ is completely insane and it’s clearly not going away after the election. It’s going to get far worse. In fact, I suspect there will be a complete disconnect between those in power and the real world very soon in the US. Such a thing would lead the rest of the world to need to stop us before we turn it to total ash.

    • Steve Smith

      Not just in the U.S.

  • The Sentinel

    Man, what a WEIRDO. Shades of Nathan Thurm. https://youtu.be/qWomk2yt-C8

  • Duane Dimitrov

    We’ve come a long way, people!

    We–the gays–have our very own cartoon villain!

    Except this one is a billionaire who sits on the board of Facebook and co-founded Palantir….one of the creepiest companies around.

    • TampaDink

      We have more than one cartoon villain….pharma douche, Martin Shkreli counts for something.

      • Duane Dimitrov

        He’s gay?

        • TampaDink

          I thought that I’d read that. Apparently I am wrong. It happens.
          I’ll fix it.

  • billbear1961

    In addition to dealing blow after blow to democracy in this country, to stamping all over the Constitution, you hopeless IDIOT, the dangerously unfit, hateful MANIAC would cause world-wide CHAOS!!

    • David Walker

      For starters.

      • TampaDink

        And quite possibly for enders too.
        How long does a nuclear winter last?

  • bambinoitaliano

    Translation : I’m white and got money, everyone else can go fuck themselves.

    • Chucktech

      He had better have that money safely squirreled away somewhere where the impending economic collapse with a Trump win doesn’t take it all away.

    • Chris Baker

      It’s so tough being a billionaire these days. I can’t imagine what he has to endure every day. I mean, he only has $2b, so that only leaves him $800,000 per week (assuming he earns no interest on his money).

  • Viod Null
  • The Milkman

    He’s right, sort of. It’s not crazy. It’s the result of a lot of low-socioeconomic-status white people slipping from lower middle class into poverty as our manufacturing sector disappears. I mention (again) Richland County, Ohio as just one example. Opiate addiction, unemployment, underemployment, and an absence of hope for a better future are contributing to apathy, anger, and scapegoating. Until we start figuring out what to do with all these folks who used to take pride in their manufacturing jobs and now are lucky to find part time work at McDonald’s, we’ll have this problem.

    By the way, neither Trump nor Theil know diddly about how to fix that.

    • safari

      Canada is trying a pilot program for universal basic income. Because, let’s face it, productivity gains and an international market means we don’t need 7 billion people in the workforce at full time levels.

      • The Milkman

        It’s a really good point, and perhaps something we should consider. We’ll get lots of flack about “socialism” (as though Medicare and Social Security aren’t a form of that). But having a basic social safety net would be helpful.

        • Chucktech

          Lots of flack about socialism?? After the full throated, right wing bullshit about Obamacare?? Flack is hardly the right descriptor.

          • The Milkman

            Yeah, not sure what comes after “flack” in the hierarchy of civil unrest. Maybe apoplexy?

      • John30013

        Except that those people (many of them, at least) could be put to productive use rebuilding and modernizing our infrastructure (roads, bridges, railways, ports), and retrained for jobs in clean energy, environmental cleanup, etc. Even if they had to be supported by government spending for a time, it would be more productive than simply paying people who’ve been left behind in the modern global economy to stay at home.

        • NancyP

          Obama tried that, and had to settle for a very small stimulus program because the Rs blocked like crazy. Same goes on at the state level. Our state is closing a fair number of rural bridges that flunked inspection.

    • Ross

      Actually, the majority of Trump supporters do NOT have low-socioeconomic-status.

      This is NOT what is attracting them to Donnie.

      What they like is his open racism and xenophobia.

      Studies have repeatedly revealed this.

      • CanuckDon

        Agreed. Studies show that the average wage of a Trump supporter is something like $72,000 a year. I think the majority of them are these tailgate party boys who just don’t want to share their beer with anyone that doesn’t look like them.

      • CJAS

        But they are men who derive much their identity from being white.

    • CanuckDon

      They don’t know how to fix it and couldn’t give a shit about it either because they’re the ones who caused it with their need of bigwig money, luxury lifestyles, and finding any self-serving, uncaring way of getting it.

  • olandp

    What a bizarre presentation, look to the left, look to the right, look to the left…

    • CanuckDon

      Was he reading off of two teleprompters? That was bigly weird!

  • barrixines
  • TheSeer

    Is this the concession of the election?

  • safari

    Ugh. Go fuck Milo.

    • David F.

      Better him than any of us.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    I fear lots of violence from these Alt-Right crazy people no matter what the outcome of the election.

    If Trump wins they will start shooting believing this is their kristallnacht.

    If Trump loses they will start shooting believing the election was stolen.

    • Viod Null

      The American Holy Civil War Is Upon Us. Prepare to defend yourself because the Christians are going to kill us all for the love of Jesus. Snarky remarks about being the better person for not owning a gun will do you no good when a white Christian male kills you in the name of Gods Love.

      • DaveW

        Just spent two days looking at Christian medieval treasures at V&A and British museum. It was cruel but so uplifting too. What happened to this cult? ( I so wished they had price tags, would have filled a trunk, such rarities!!!!)

    • Steverino

      I agree. Either way, they are hell-bent for violence. Much like those witch trials in New England back in the day, where the accused was thrown into the river, and if she drowned, she was innocent, but if she could float and swim, she was a witch so had to be killed, also. Same outcome, either way.

      • Phillip in L.A.

        “Trial by ordeal” was actually abolished in England by the Lateran Council of 1215:

        The old modes of proof might be reduced to two, ordeals and oaths; both were appeals to the supernatural. . . . In Western Europe, after the barbarian invasions, the church adopted and consecrated certain of the ordeals and composed rituals for them. Among our own forefathers, the two most fashionable methods of obtaining a iudicium Dei [“judgment of God”] were that which adjured a pool of water to receive the innocent and that which regarded a burnt hand as a proof of guilt. Such evidence as we have seems to show that the ordeal of hot iron was so arranged as to give the accused a considerable chance of escape. In the England of the twelfth century both of the tests that we have mentioned were being freely used; but men were beginning to mistrust them. . . . Then came a sudden change. The Lateran Council of 1215 forbad the clergy to take part in the ceremony. Some wise churchmen had long protested against it; but perhaps the conflict with flagrant heresy and the consequent exacerbation of ecclesiastical law had something to do with the suppression of this old test. In England this decree found a prompt obedience such as it hardly found elsewhere; the ordeal was abolished at once and for ever. Flourishing in the last records of John’s reign, we can not find it in any later rolls.

        Sir Frederick Pollock and Frederic William Maitland, 2 The History of English Law Before the Time of Edward I. at 598-99 (Cambridge & Boston; 2d ed. 1899) (footnotes omitted).

        • Viod Null

          God accepts the innocent into Heaven, so the poor drown innocent will be in a better place. And the floating witch was to be burned alive. Fire being a gift of love to burn the sin from your soul so that when you meet God he will let you into Heaven.

          All the horrible things that the Cult Of Christ does is so that they can express their love for God.

    • Jeffg166

      They are all talk. They’d have to get up off their collective fat asses. Not going to happen.

      • pch1013

        It’s all fun and games until the disability checks stop coming.

  • JT

    Homocon Peter Thiel: What Trump Represents Isn’t Crazy And It’s Not Going Away After The Election

    He expects this from the Nazism of his German roots.

  • Steve Smith

    He’s right in saying that we need a new politics that deals with reality. The reality though is the exact opposite of that which Trump represents, and the distinctly self-unaware Mr Thiel and those like him are the reality that needs to be dealt with, before their utter disregard for anything and anyone which stands between them and their overwhelming and sociopathic greed destroys us all. More than enough damage has already been done.

    • John30013

      “Recons with reality”.

      In the immortal words of the great Bugs Bunny, “Ha ha! It is to laugh!”

  • TK

    Peter, sadly, none of you are going away after this election. The news media will lazily turn to you and the other fucksticks for the next 4 years. We’re stuck with you.

  • yeruncle

    Can you imagine how boring and quasi fascistic his dinner parties are?

  • Ziad Baaklini

    I refuse to believe he agrees with what he’s saying. Nobody lacks that much self-awareness.

  • Stev84

    Two narcissistic shitbags have found each other

  • SFBruce

    He’s right about one thing: no matter what happens in the election, Trump won’t be going away. However, I infinitely prefer Trump not going away out of the White House with a damaged brand than in the White House.

  • mikeinrkfd

    And just would we give a shit what you say Peter?

  • iamanotheru
  • barrixines

    Thiel is right up there with all the other gay greats like Ernst Röhm, Gilles de Rais, Jeffrey Dahmer and Roy Cohn. The man’s an inspiration.

  • Lawerence Collins

    WTF?!? Twice in one am I agree with two GOP thugs. We reap what we sow. So to speak.

  • David

    Well he’s half right.

  • Chucktech

    Of course it’s not “going away” after the election. It’s always been here, right under the pond scum. It’s just that the the pond has been drained so that we see it more clearly now.

  • Yalma Cuder-Zicci

    He’s quite sweaty and dry-mouthed.

    • m_lp_ql_m

      Out or not, internalized homophobia reinforces the fear of “getting caught” or “being found out.”

  • secretlab

    Crazy doesn’t seem crazy when you’re crazy.

  • ericxdc

    What a moran.

  • Oikos
  • JK3

    I hope some guys that have had the unfortunate chance to be with Thiel start spilling some embarrassing and humiliating details soon.

  • Oikos
  • Jerry Hinnant

    Unfortunately he is right . Greedy theiving SOB’s, sexually predators, serial liars, and racist bigots aren’t going away. Apparently self hating ass kissing Homocons aren’t either!

    • Silver Badger

      They aren’t going away but now that they’ve outed themselves we can finally get them the medication they so desperately need.

  • David Walker

    OK. Sorry. I haven’t thought this through, but it’s gnawing at me since Trae’s last video “An Appeal for Sanity.” After listing all things Trae sees as reasons to vote against Hillary, he says, “…and you’re convinced that liberal America don’t give a shit about you. And you know what? You’re right. In the mind of many Americans rednecks exist only as a punchline, as a scapegoat, or, in the case of Trump, a resource to be exploited. Well, fuck ’em.” That hurt, Trae, and it’s the smack across the face that I think we need. I’m as guilty as any of us for making fun of rednecks. And lord knows Drumpf is exploiting the fuck out of them. Nothing we do will change their minds by next Tuesday. But what about 2018? And 2020? In the ’60s and late ’70s, we’d be known as “outside agitators.” (That still exists a bit with “you aren’t from around here, are you?”) But what if we DID pay attention? What if we DID make an effort to understand and offer help to the rednecks, to show that in terms of the economy, jobs, education, we DO share concerns? Would they have to call themselves Democrats? No. Will they have to think of themselves as liberals or progressives? Not if they don’t want to. Most people CAN change, and maybe…just maybe…it’s time for us to listen, to act, and to take them into account. Pay attention more and laugh a little less.

    • m_lp_ql_m

      Don’t dismiss US so fast either. I suspect our ridicule of rednecks is not dismissive, but a challenge. I know people who’ve escaped these red states through education. If they could do it, anyone can. They have it right, partly: the system IS rigged, except only by the politicians that are keeping these rednecks down.

      • NancyP

        I am astounded that a fair number of the truly rural voters are being taken in by this used-casino salesman. Most people who run small farms have to be able to do a lot of things for themselves that we city types get done for us. Why do people get hoodwinked by the NRA propaganda… I, as a city slicker, am grateful to the thousands of rural hunters out there who will be thinning the deer population in a week or so. Liberals aren’t “anti-gun”, we are for reasonable regulations – gun safety courses, trigger locks for guns kept in the presence of a younger minor.

      • David Walker

        I’m northern redneck. Yes, I escaped through a college education my parents insisted that I have. Even though I hated the school, I am grateful. I got out a long time ago, but I still see the parallels between when I was raised and today. There are lots of exceptions, too, but I think they were always treated as “lesser than.” The republican’ts are perfectly happy keeping them down, demonizing Democrats for the things republican’ts have done. The Democrats would gain so much with the rural sector coming back. I am now a flat lander, and so be it. That doesn’t erase my memory or make me immune to what’s being done to rednecks. It just seems to me that it’s something to honestly, sincerely latch on to.

      • Tor

        You are correct about education being the way out. I did it in the 1970’s, when it did not cost an arm and a leg. I feel for young people today trying to pay for higher education.

    • greenmanTN

      Trae has mentioned in several interviews that when the Osh Kosh factory in his town closed and moved to Mexico after NAFTA that it hurt the town badly and they never recovered. I am a protectionist I suppose, because NAFTA and other free trade agreements only benefited the wealthy while almost destroying the American working middle class.

      Something has to give and I don’t really blame them for being resentful.

      • David Walker

        And it’s not like we get to sit around and say, “Well, obviously this is what’s wrong and this is how to fix it.” I hate focus groups and would avoid them at all cost. A town hall meeting, however, might attract some attention. And we can’t chicken out because we don’t like what they have to say. But we do have to ask, “How, realistically, could that be solved? Is there something the government can do to help you?” And then do it. Tell the state government and the fed what the problems are and this is what those affected think will help. Bring people to the capitol. Let the honorable legislators meet the real people who voted for them, who are paying them to work for their constituents. My god, if this country could just get back to talking to each other, not screaming at each other, understanding that to compromise isn’t to give up, that differences of opinion are excellent but the close-minded “You’re WRONG!” leads nowhere. To me, part one is to get to the point where we CAN talk to each other. Papa Pollyanna here, I guess.

      • Friday

        Frankly, I don’t just blame NAFTA for everything. Sure, it was something the greedy finance companies and stockholders and CEOs could exploit, but in the end, it’s *what they chose to do.* “NAFTA” didn’t actually put guns to the heads of those “Corporate raiders” the Republicans so idolized back then.

    • Clive Johnson

      I apologize for reposting the following article, but it’s very relevant.


      I’m all for human solidarity and addressing our common problems. However, there’s a major problem when tea partiers and Trump supporters vote for candidates and support policies that rather obviously go against their own self interest. An example from the article:

      “In August 2012, [Mike] Schaff was entering his home in Bayou Corne, about seventy miles west of New Orleans, when he was jolted by a tremor. His concrete living room floor cracked apart. The sound, said a neighbor, was like a “garbage truck had dropped a dumpster.”

      More than a mile beneath the bayou, a Houston-based drilling company named Texas Brine had drilled into a vast salt dome, ignoring warnings from its own engineer, with the complicity of the state’s useless Department of Environmental Quality. (In Louisiana, environmental regulators are, in the words of an EPA investigation, “expected to protect industry.”) Texas Brine drills for salt, which it sells to chlorine manufacturers, but other companies had used sections of the salt dome to store chemicals and oil. Texas Brine drilled too closely to an oil deposit and the structure ruptured, sucking down forest and causing seismic damage to the homes of 350 nearby residents. Officials began referring to Schaff’s neighborhood as the “sacrifice zone.”

      Texas Brine refused to take responsibility for the accident. It claimed that earthquakes were common in the area (they are not) before blaming a different salt dome tenant for the collapse. If that wasn’t enough, Texas Brine asked the state for permission to dump toxic wastewater into the very sinkhole it created. Jindal did not visit the site for seven months, though it is only forty miles south of the capital. Four years later the sinkhole is 750 feet deep at its center and has grown to thirty-five acres. Methane and other gases bubble up periodically. Residents who defied evacuation orders avoided lighting matches.

      After seeing his house, neighborhood, and way of life destroyed by corporate greed and state-sanctioned contempt for the natural environment, and many of his neighbors diagnosed with cancer, Schaff was forever changed. “They think we’re just a bunch of ignorant coonasses,” he told a Mother Jones reporter. Schaff became an environmental activist, railing against the “disrespect that we have been shown by both Texas Brine and our state officials themselves.” He marched on the statehouse, wrote fifty letters to state and federal officials, granted dozens of interviews to local, national, and foreign press. When state officials claimed they had detected no oil in the bayou, he demanded that the EPA check their work.

      But Schaff continued to vote Tea Party down the line. He voted for the very politicians who had abetted Texas Brine at every turn, who opposed environmental regulation of any kind. He voted to “abolish” the EPA, believing that it “was grabbing authority and tax money to take on a fictive mission…lessening the impact of global warming.” The violent destruction of everything he held dear was not enough to change his mind.”

      • David Walker

        Well, shit. I’ll crawl under my rock now…and hope to hell nobody’s drilling under it.

  • Ross

    “He points toward a new Republican Party…”

    Yep, Donnie sure does.
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    • David Walker

      God. He didn’t lift the seat again, did he? Oh. Right. He has people to do that.

      • Chucktech

        Apparently if the toilet isn’t made out of gold, you don’t have to lift the seat.

      • The very best people.

  • m_lp_ql_m

    The only thing Trump gets right is his marketing to the rural, religious-based lifestyle that’s dying out in its obsolescence.

    • David Walker

      I’d call it pandering rather than marketing.

  • He blames government for the free market that made him rich?

  • Gerry Fisher

    The anxiety produced by social change and the wildly frustrating feelings generated by the machinations of our oligarchy aren’t crazy and are very valid. The way that the US population is choosing to *express* these feelings and *deal* with them is absolutely insane. It’s Brexit-level, shoot-yourself-in-the-foot-five-times crazy.

    …but you’d need emotional intelligence to understand the distinction I’m making, Peter.

  • Acronym Jim

    If Thiel really wants to create his perfect utopia, he should be spending more of his time locating shipping containers.

  • NancyP

    Thiel , the guy who regrets the 19th amendment (women’s suffrage), the walking 1950s stereotype of the woman-hating gay guy. Thiel is correct that ignorant people will keep defending their ignorance and bigotry after the election. He’s been defending his own delusions, after all.

  • paganguy

    Yes, that’s what we’re all afraid of…

  • bear on the peaks

    Hillary who de-stabilized North Africa sending countless people to seek refuge in Italy? Wall-Street loving Hillary who helped get rid of the middle class in the U.S., leading to countless people living in the streets? Hillary who was so anxious to inade Iraq? Hillary who made herself rich through her relations with regimes that routinely torture and kill gay people? Hillary who said that Ronald & Nancy Reagan did a lot for gays during the1980’s Aids crisis? Hillary who wants to go to war with Russia to get rid of Assad? Hillary and her 30,000 missing emails? I’m not drinking the Hillary kool-aid. It’s time to drain the swamp,

    • TampaDink

      Drinking lye to prove how much you hate kool-aid doesn’t sound all that rational.

    • Friday

      I don’t think lying about where she misspoke about it being Alzheimer’s that Nancy Reagan did a lot for rather than AIDS makes your corrupt corporate grifter and real estate scammer who doesn’t understand why he shouldn’t use nukes…. any kind of guy to ‘drain the swamp.’ Frankly, he’s bringing a whole load of crap to clog the septic system while he’s at it.

  • marshlc

    I don’t care much about the distractions.

    I don’t, really, care that much that Trump is a sleazy opportunist when it comes to women – powerful men have always used women badly and why should he be any different?

    I don’t really care all that much that he’s a con man, robbing Peter to pay Paul, and then shorting Paul. A competent hustler is not necessarily a bad thing for a leader to be.

    I don’t care that he’s quite likely a narcissistic sociopath. Any search through world history will show competent leaders who were not good people.

    I care that his policies, when they are laid out in enough detail that they actually can be examined, are incompetent and damaging, costing far too much to do little good. I care that he clearly does not know and does not care how government and international relations work. I care that he’s willing to say or do anything to win or to damage his opponents, even if that would damage his nation more. I care that whenever given a chance to respond to events as they are happening, his first instinct is always to go low, and that he is apparently incapable of not acting on his first instinct.

    I don’t give a shit if the next president of the US is a nice person. I just care that she is a competent and capable one.

  • RainbowPhoenix

    A few arrests for their criminal and in some cases treasonous acts will clear that right up.

  • DaveMiller135

    That’s fine. Couple of things. Trump is going away after the election. And maybe you want to be part of reshaping the message of your mob, so it sounds less like a bunch of bigoted thugs wishing for the good ole boy days.

  • Todd

    Duh Peter …. It never went away since McCain brought on Palin and the teabag get.

    Vampire Idiot

  • One could read Thiel’s remarks here with a view toward the sympathetic portrayal of the “legitimate fears, etc.” of Trump supporters, as chronicled by Michael Moore in his most recent movie.

    Let’s set aside the racism, sexism, and other “deplorable” aspects of things, and take seriously those legitimate fears/concerns of those working-class white Trump supporters. While Trump is selling them a bill of goods and can’t won;t ever deliver, listening to those concerns, and clearly addressing them in proposed legislation, is going to be a key thing toward being able to get any progressive legislation through Congress.

    One of the principles of non-violent resistance to oppression is to find the oppressor’s legitimate concerns and fears, and to address them. In this case, the white working class folks who are (ignorantly, in my book) allying themselves with Thiel, Trump, and the other One-Percent oppressors, actually have legitimate needs that make some of Trump’s ideas compelling to them.

    • Clive Johnson

      I think you’re on the mark, but what happens if or in actuality the Trump supporters can’t even identify their direct self interests? It then becomes very, very challenging to convince them that their proposed solutions are not in rational correspondence with the objective realities of their lives. This difficulty was brought home forcefully in a recent book review:


      For example, what is to be done when someone is living in a toxic waste zone and yet clamors for shutting the doors on the EPA?

    • LookielouE1707

      Deplorables are not motivated by legitimate interests, nor are they motivated by economic interests, popular opinion to the contrary. Deplorables are financially better off than their peer group and, once you get past the clinton derangement syndrome and assorted puffery to the real issues, they are motivated by social, not economic resentment – they resent the fact that various liberal interest groups are being advanced in the social pecking order relative to where they’ve been in the past. This is not 1929, it’s 1876.

      You cannot speak to deplorables’ interests without giving up on social equality, because that’s what they’re afraid of, not the economic issues you are concerned about. So I suppose it should be no surprise that someone who wants outreach to deplorables would be so happy to “set aside” sexism and racism. What you perhaps haven’t grasped yet is that the deplorables will subjugate you as happily as they’ll subjugate the minority groups you intend to abandon.

  • T-Batwoman

    A cheap prostitute selling out his community for the hopes of cash that we all know will never come, puke.

  • Rex

    I don’t like him, and he’s probably a lousy lay too.

  • PiperPine

    This wont go away but I’d argue it had always been there just not magnified and given the credence by an ill-tempered yam. Is it better to have this stuff front and center or hidden behind dog whistles I’ll leave it to others to debate.

    That all said we’ll see what happens I suppose. The fulcrum is the 8th and while it looks like Secretary Clinton wont trounce Trump the results will have an impact on all of the major political parties.

  • TheManicMechanic

    In other word, “White Power FTW!!!11”

    Either you are part of it, or profit by it.

  • Cosmo Tupper

    Well, unlike you, thiel, we are not sell-outs. When the rethuglican party quits attacking everyone who is NOT STRAIGHT (you FOOL), not caucasian, not christian, female or off-white, then maybe we can talk!

  • Skokieguy [Larry]

    What has Trump brought? A society where this has become acceptable behavior. .

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/deae4da4695dd0c8be1743864f3cc8a6dbb87bec62c57a7e443b2cdb0ba322b4.jpg Two fans at Saturday night’s University of Wisconsin football game wore a
    costume featuring President Obama in a noose, with Donald Trump holding
    the rope. One of the pair sported an Obama mask and had a noose around their neck. They also had a Hillary Clinton mask. The other person wore a Trump mask
    and held the noose to give the appearance Trump was hanging either
    Obama or Clinton.”


  • SoCalGal20

    Make him (Thiel) go away. Or at least go bankrupt.

  • Slippy_World

    When ever I hear him talk about Trump -I recall another “assistant “….


  • Friday

    Err, yes, this is insane, especially for you, Thiel, and it *should* go away. On account of it’s insane.

    Cause you know what they always say, ‘Screw up all the details and the *big* disatrous policies will work out *fine.*’

    Or, maybe that’s not what they say, how’d that go….

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  • pch1013

    The “urgent” crisis we’re in, per Peter Thiel, is that Peter Thiel is – unconscionably – still required to pay taxes.

  • rednekokie

    Well, Peter Thiel is as crazy as a bat up a chimney. I’m sure he is amply qualified to comment upon craziness.
    Trump has been the final nail in the coffin of what’s left of the Republican party. The whole country knows it — Mr. Thiel ought to wash out his brain cells with some reality.

  • boatboy_srq

    Something tells me this “new Republican Party beyond the dogmas of Reaganism” will bear a striking resemblance to the Dixiecrats, or to the antebellum Democratic Party, complete with the racist, sexist, xenophobic,anti-Otherist tendencies of each.

    • UrsusArctos

      The evil love-child of Jacksonian Democracy and the Know Nothings.

  • Bad Tom

    Drumpf gets big things right?
    Like his clarity of thought on our nuclear policy, Peter?

  • Robert Conner

    Thiel’s unquestionably right about one thing: regardless of the election results, “it” isn’t going away. However, he’s dead wrong about “moving past the dogmas of Reaganism.” Trump isn’t post-Reagan; Trump is Reaganism carried to its logical extreme, its reductio ad absurdum. Reagan is the cancer that has been eating its way through the GOP for decades. Ronald Reagan, a corporate shill, was the closest America has ever come to electing a true simpleton, a man who was a blithering idiot well before the onset of his dementia. Reagan opened the door to the professional liars and hucksters: the corporate liars, the evangelical liars, the ‘educational reform’ liars, the interventionist, militaristic liars and the “trickle-down” economic liars, engulfing American culture in a tsunami of falsehood and greed.

    Reagan transformed America. Into a big, stupid, shit-eating church.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/88b624c9cc18739cc758d74b45584033988c42ddcbb368f529760bf5cc8f6953.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/770caeea7a1d17fdbe19cf371b5c2c1d0782e6f84d76228774a4a0be8070a3c7.jpg

  • karmanot

    ““He points toward a new Republican Party beyond the dogmas of Reaganism….”
    Ah huh…it’s called fascism.

  • Ian

    We need to learn that just because people have money, doesn’t mean they also have brains and that we should listen to them.

  • CottonBlimp

    Peter Thiel, for the record, is a believer in “the Dark Enlightenment” aka a neo-reactionary. It’s a political philosophy that believes that the world was better off before democracy and the basic concept of universal human rights, even though all the actual facts say the exact opposite. Neo-reactionaries believe our democracy should be replaced with a monarch or dictator, ideally chosen by a small group of priviliged oligarchs (ie, themselves). They are typically white supremacists who support a racial caste system and even black slavery.

    Neo-reactionaries are also almost exclusively white sci-fi/fantasy loving geeks, which means I am not even joking when I say that their entire political ideology was inspired by the Lord of the Rings.

    So yeah, Peter Thiel, you’re fucking crazy. But let’s not forget that you’re also an evil piece of shit.

  • Quagmired

    From 1969 to Reagan taking office we, as a community, made great strides that were lost under Reagan. A quick glance at the history books will show you that the markets work themselves out. Takes time, but people like making money so they do recover. When you lose ground on a social issue you don’t always get that ground back. The ERA anyone? The Ernst Roehm as Peter Thiel jokes write themselves. I just hope it doesn’t end the same for him or us.

    • leastyebejudged

      People don’t even miss what we lost to the Patriot Act.

      What we lost forever…

  • Cuberly

    He’s getting reamed on twitter right now, not the fun kind. Already the parody vids are popping up.


  • Cuberly
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  • leastyebejudged

    who ?

  • Falconlights

    About what I expect from a homocon. I got news for ya, Peter: what Trump represents IS crazy and anyone who supports him needs their head examined.

    • Viod Null

      This is what Humans ARE. No external force makes us this way, no God created imperfect beings that are this way, this is Humana Au-Natural. Once we got rid of the Leopards there was no check on our genome to keep us fit. Humans are ILL through over breeding, environment pollution, and mental subjugation. If we had back the Leopard then the weak, infirm, and ill would be culled and our fewer numbers would be physically and mentally healthier.

  • Blobby

    He’s a dick, but he’s right. You think Palin and her fuck-tard followers after the fact were a problem – just wait!

  • I want to slap his face in. Repeatedly. I seriously do, and the thing is he could afford my rate. It’s tempting.

  • Bert_Bauer

    1%ers like Thiel know they can continue to exploit the deplorables to enrich themselves, as conservatives have done since the 80’s.

  • JCF

    Lysi-NoF#cking-strata this @sshole!

  • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

    Peter Thiel would be well served to remember how Donald Trump rewarded his mentor Roy Cohn.