BREAKING: Dems File Federal Complaint Accusing GOP Of Helping Donald Trump Intimidate Minority Voters

Law Newz reports

The DNC filed a motion in federal court on Wednesday which says that the RNC, through Donald Trump’s own statements, has violated a longstanding consent decree that prohibits Republicans from engaging in “ballot security” measures which could intimidate minorities.

The DNC lawyers are asking for a judge to issue a court order preventing the voter intimidation, and also hold the RNC in contempt of court for failing to abide by the the consent decree. The decree came about in 1981, after Republican officials allegedly engaged in intimidation tactics against minority voters in the name of “ballot security.”

The decree barred the RNC from engaging in various polling-related activities. Well, the DNC says the Republicans are back at it. In recent days, the RNC has tried to distance themselves from many of these vigilante tactics, the DNC lawyers say there is now “ample evidence that Trump has enjoyed the direct and tacit support of the RNC in its ‘ballot security’ endeavors.”

The DNC’s motion is also asking the court to enforce the consent decree with sanctions. The consent decree was expected to expire in 2017. However, the DNC has asked for an 8 year extension based upon Trump and the RNC’s recent actions.

See the full complaint here.
dnccomplaint

  • Lazycrockett

    good.

  • Michael Smith

    So that’s why the RNC asked Trump supporters not to do anything illegal. They’ll always do the right thing when a court order is involved.

    • lymis

      They’re also trying to claim that if Trump supporters acting on the clearly stated request of the Republican nominee for president, chosen at their RNC convention via the primaries the RNC arranged, do anything illegal, that it has nothing to do with them, so they are legally off the hook.

      Sorry, that’s not going to fly.

  • greenmanTN

    Please please please let it happen!

    C’mon, Lady Luck, baby needs new shoes!

  • bkmn

    Go after them, go after them hard, Trump is the GOP, the GOP is Trump. Make those sanctions permanent. Nail them on this.

  • Lakeview Bob

    I posted this link over at Breitbart. I love to rattle those morons.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      You may shortly be banned. They do not like it when their bubble gets burst.

      • Henri205

        They banned me after about 2 minutes. I did enjoy trolling those dumb fucks.

        • Dreaming Vertebrate

          Badge of Honor!!

        • Falconlights

          Good for you! I finally got banned at CNS News. That
          isn’t quite the insane asylum that Breitbart is, but they have some real haters on there.

    • Mike__in_Houston

      Did you remove the link? I can’t see it…

  • ByronK

    Bravo. Under no circumstances should this type of partisan action be allowed. Oh, and maybe they could throw in something to fuck with Roger Stone while they’re at it.

  • SoCalGal20

    Yes!

    Speaking of voter intimidation, HuffPost has this story: “Trump Loyalists Planned Voter Intimidation Using Fake ID Badges, Fake Exit Polling — Until HuffPost Asked Them About It”

    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_580e4e63e4b0a03911ee03bc?

    And, finally, OT but good numbers out of NV.

    http://www.ktnv.com/news/ralston/the-nevada-early-voting-blog

    • bkmn

      Roger Stone, of course, denied that he did it, blaming it on others, but it has his fingerprints all over it.

      • SoCalGal20

        That guy is such a sleaze. I don’t get how he isn’t in jail.

        • Todd20036

          If you were a guard in that jail or an inmate, would YOU want Stone with you?

          • bkmn

            The inmates would take care of him very quickly and quietly.

          • clay

            but he’s got eyes on the back of his back

          • Randy Left Brooklyn

            I assume you saw the photo in Esquire of Nixon’s face tattooed on Stone’s back. That was such a weird photo. You could tell he had a good body at one time.

            But then that tattoo…
            And Nixon was such a shit that any fan of his…
            And the skin that showed too much time in the Florida sun…

          • Rambie

            That’s for real? Thought it was a photoshop job.

          • Randy Left Brooklyn

            That is for real. In the Esquire article, referring to the Nixon face tattoo, Stone is quoted as saying, “Chicks dig it.” That is 100% the honest truth. I could not make that up.

          • Rambie

            *shivers* that’s.. terrifying. Wonder if he’s gotten a Trump tramp stamp yet then.

          • Robincho

            If it’s on his “dick” it could be a trump stump…

          • Rambie

            It’s funny you think it’d be big enough to tattoo

          • BobSF_94117

            Yeah, chicks are gonna spend a lot of time looking at his upper back, especially during sex…

          • Randy Left Brooklyn

            Actually Roger Stone has a colorful history of being sexually, um, adventurous. He was a big force in GOP politics in the Reagan era, especially the Religious Right, until he the National Enquirer ran a cover story on his and his wife’s membership in a swingers club, where they used to pick up single men for threesomes. He also has a long history with female porn stars.

            He doesn’t look good anymore, but he used to have a great body. It may still be good for his age. Just saying.

          • Todd20036

            Right! I remember he went to a leather dance once.
            I have no issues with anyone’s sexual proclivities so long as they follow 2 rules:

            1) Keep it consensual
            2) Don’t be hypocritical.

          • Randy Left Brooklyn

            He was at a leather dance? Gay or pan sexual?

          • Emilygbrister1

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      • Robincho

        Webprints…

    • stuckinthewoods

      The NV news was great, the guy badmouthing early voting was not. I wish we had it here.

      • SoCalGal20

        Which guy badmouthing early voting?

        And, yes, early voting is great! It should be mandated for all states imo.

        • Guest

          Scroll up and read the two links. He referenced two things, one in each link.

        • stuckinthewoods

          The guy saying someone might have “voter remorse” after voting early. It’s surprising how different the states’ laws are about voting. In VA there is no early voting and you have to have a solid reason even for absentee.

      • EweTaw

        National polls have Clinton and Trumpickles at a dead heat. Exact same 43% to 43%. As for this “voter’s remorse” bull shit, Ralston and the news anchor can go fuck themselves with sharp cacti.

        • lymis

          Wrong. A few polls show a dead heat. Other polls show Clinton up by 14. The average is that Clinton is up by 9. Which, could, of course, change at any minute.

          But it’s a misrepresentation to say that current polling indicates anything resembling a tie.

        • Ray Taylor

          Upvote for the cacti.

    • clay

      So, exactly like what got them screwed back when, oh, Stone, was in charge?

  • bkmn

    And when we win big on the 8th and the new Democratic majority is sworn in I hope one of the first things they do is push through a new Voting Rights Act with serious teeth.

    • Ninja0980

      Yup, cover all states so the South and a couple of other areas (including parts of NY) can’t whine about how they are being unfairly targeted.

    • lymis

      The reason the Voting Rights Act was struck down was because it only covered some states. So instead of mandating fair elections for everyone, they struck it down. We need a federal law with serious penalties for ANY state playing games with our elections.

  • Homo Erectus
  • Glad to hear it. This just proves yet again that we need national voting standards — including serious criminal charges against anyone who either does or through their actions helps facilitate illegal suppression of voters.

    It’s clear now we need a fully national Voting Rights Act.

    • Ninja0980

      Which won’t happen as long as Republicans control the House and Senate.
      Not to mention we need a Democratic SCOTUS so John Roberts can’t gut the VRA again.

      • Falconlights

        Amen to that! We need enough Democratic justices so as to be able to make sure crap like Citizens United doesn’t happen for a long time if ever again.

    • Nowhereman

      I agree. “States’ Rights” be damned. The main use of the states’ clause has been to bash and oppress minority citizens; women, non-whites, gay people and non-christians. Our civil rights should not depend on which state we live in. I would like to see a national system like Oregon and a few other states have, with automatic registration at the age of 18 and a mail in ballot. Let’s make it easier for us to vote, not harder. Of course, we’d probably see the end of the GOPTP if everyone had easy access to exercise their franchise.

      • CottonBlimp

        States’ rights hasn’t made any damn sense in about 100 years. It made sense back in the day when communication was so slow that it would take Washington DC weeks to find out what was happening in California, but that hasn’t been a real issue since the invention of the telephone.

        Now the only reason people harp on about “states’ rights” is because they don’t want the federal government interfering with local corruption.

        • clay

          We now have more cultural differences county to county and school district to school district than we used to have state to state.

        • Nowhereman

          Well said and spot on.

      • Robincho

        The Rethuglikkkuntz don’t want any outside help with the killing. They’re doing a fine job of it all by themselves… Services pending, followed by burial at sea and unfettered dancing in the streets… Arrangements are being handled by The Trump Organization…

    • Henri205

      Excellent point. The Constitution defines voting as a right so this right should be federally-defined and the right enforced by the appropriate federal agencies. I’m so sick of certain states trying to make it more difficult to exercise a guaranteed right.

    • That will only work with a court that upholds such laws and doesn’t allow interference with voting rights. Most of what is happening that we want to make illegal is unconstitutional to begin with.

  • RainbowPhoenix

    Ooh, girl, hold my gold.

  • Sam_Handwich

    the Caucasian patriarchy will not be dead after Nov 8 ….it will still be kicking and screaming, most prominently in a very crippled GOP House majority. And that will be the really big story between the election and January. It’s going to be a yuge mess for Ryan and the House leadership in general.

  • moebym

    Good. Let’s take the fight to them!

  • on a different but similar note: any Black person who would vote for Trump can kiss 3/5 of my ass…

    • Nowhereman

      I feel that way about women and gay people, too. They really need to get a clue. Or listen to his speeches and then go look in the mirror.

    • Todd20036

      Heck, I’ll do that to you, and I’m not even voting for Trump.

      And I’m not black, either.

        • TampaDink

          Congratulations, Shug!!

        • Todd20036

          I’ve no problem with him joining…

          • We would have a problem with it…

          • Todd20036

            Dang. But congrats. Hope it works out wonderfully for you

      • Robincho

        That’s my Todd, always with the mitzvahs. Srsly, you boyz need to get a room, and to show that I’m no slouch with the mitzvahs either, I’ll pick up 3/5 of the cost. At Trump International D.C. going rates, I figure that’ll run me $53. Late checkout by prior arrangement…

        • Todd20036

          My influence flows onto others on this site like a thick, sticky, viscous fluid with the faint scent of poppers in the air.

          I am so proud!

  • Lazycrockett
    • Traxley Launderette

      “I suck dicks!”*

      *poorly, and for two bucks and some scratch-offs

    • Thanks! I just followed him The Twitter.

      • The ‘storified’ twitter saga goes back months — he keeps it pinned at the top of his page in 4 volumes now. It’s a hoot.

  • Ninja0980

    Good, because no matter how much they claim otherwise, the GOP is fully on board with the war on voting rights, as shown by their actions in various states and their refusal to restore the VRA.

  • Traxley Launderette

    Well, we know what the shitgibbon will be obssessing and whining about for the next ten days.

    Imagine the rush to the exits at Trump Tower.

    Kellyanne has joined Rinse on the ledge.

    • EweTaw

      I sure hope no one slips on the garbage in the hallways and breaks a neck. That would be bad. 🙂

      • Traxley Launderette

        Sad.

        Hilarious, but sad.

    • lymis

      Guarantee you they’ll frame this to their base as “The Democrats are trying to use the courts to steal the election! See, it’s as rigged as I told you it was!” rather than, “We broke the rules we were legally obligated to follow and got called on it.”

  • EweTaw

    It’s unfortunate that a stacked Supreme Court decision in 1987 that ruled the Fairness Doctrine did not need to be upheld by media outlets. It’s been downhill ever since. Now it’s a free for all with no balance. And this making shit up out of whole cloth is getting old too.

    • Traxley Launderette

      Well, with some new SCOTUS justices and a blue senate…

    • Henri205

      This. Imagine if Fox News was forced to broadcast alternate viewpoints based on the Fairness Doctrine. Heads would explode all over the South.

      • EweTaw

        Imagine if they could only make claims that could be substantiated by cold hard facts. That would shut them up.

        • NZArtist

          Religion would die. Yay!

        • Henri205

          Some people say……

          I love when those idiots on Fox and Friends say that. Translation: Now we’re gonna throw out he biggest lie of the day. Brian Kilmeade and Steve Doocy are the stupidest people on television. I know there’s a generic blonde woman on as well but don’t know her name. I’m sure she’s just as stupid and as much of a lying shill.

        • Henri205

          Then we’d see a scroll as SNL does, showing the mistakes. It’d take all morning,

      • lattebud

        As long as the alternate view point has blonde hair, short skirts, lips oozing fillers, a botoxed face as motionless as Michele Bachmann’s vagina and at least a D cup.

  • AtticusP

    Is it November 8 yet?

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      T-minus 13!

      • Todd20036

        Does the T stand for Taco?

        • jefe5084

          Yes. Yes it does.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada
    • EweTaw

      The coolest president we’ve ever had.

      • Henri205

        I love that man and his family. Wonderful sense of humor, a playful and impressive intellect.

  • Michael R

    Thank you Donald for alerting us to voter fraud ,
    and thank you in advance for alerting us to tax fraud ( when we see your taxes )

    • Traxley Launderette

      Oh, and we will…

      He has a legion of enemies with dumpsters of filth about him.

      • NZArtist

        Yeah – next week is going to be an interesting week.
        I do hope we get to see Donald’s Tax Returns. Comedy-horror fiction is the best.

    • Henri205

      I hope the returns get leaked somehow. Maybe an IRS employee with enough of a 401k and pension, on the verge of retirement, will take the chance. I wouldn’t want that person to suffer any consequences but if there was a Go Fund Me for the legal defense I’d contribute.

      • clay

        they wouldn’t be merely fired for that, but prosecuted.

  • bkmn

    O/T – Business Insider agrees with my stance that the GOP has to deal with its right wing media problem before they can be successful again.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-conservative-media-hannity-limbaugh-drudge-2016-10

    • NancyP

      Yes. Sensible investors are scared of a Trump presidency. Predictability is golden in investing strategies. With Trump – no clue about war, trade, infrastructure – no way to figure out sensible strategy.

  • Robert Conner

    The ones who cry “sexual predator” turn out to be the real sexual predators. The ones who scream “voter fraud” turn out to be the real voter fraudsters. The ones who are always “defending” the Constitution turn out to be the ones who promise not to approve Supreme Court judges, their constitutional duty under “advise and consent.” The ones that preach about “national security” vote to start wars they can’t win and then underfund the care of wounded veterans. The super patriots get draft deferments and send other people’s kids to die in wars based on faked intelligence. The party of accountability lets banksters off the hook with a scolding and a slap on the wrist.

    If the United States of America had the slightest instinct for self preservation, George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Colin Powell and Condolezza Rice would all be in Guantanomo and every Republican member of the Senate and House would be stood up against a wall and shot. There, I fucking said it.

    • Henri205

      I don’t think they should be lined up and shot. Send them to The Hague to be prosecuted.

      • Robert Conner

        Sadly, the European countries, for all their advances, have no death penalty for treason or murder. So shoot the fuckers and call it done.

      • Falconlights

        Works for me!

    • Merv99
    • And this is different from tea party rhetoric how?

      • RoFaWh

        Good would result, instead of evil.

      • LackofFaithify

        Have you had your rabies vaccination yet this year? Not sure he has. Back away slowly.

    • Merv99

      I wonder if the poster and the people who upvoted him realize that this can be used by our enemies against us. It doesn’t take much to imagine this quoted on a news article or website somewhere and bringing all sorts of bad publicity. I also wonder if they want Joe to deal with the hassle of even a cursory inquiry by the Secret Service.

      • Falconlights

        Exactly. We all hate them with a passion, but please, no death threats or threats of violence. Joe gives us a great forum here, and let’s remember that something unwise posted here could result in big problems for Joe.

  • EweTaw

    I’m suffering the same anxiety and dread waiting for November 9th as I would in anticipation of major surgery, a deep gum cleaning, having all my teeth extracted or a colonoscopy. I am in serious need of benzodiazepines. Fists full of ’em.

    • bkmn

      A trip to Colorado, Oregon or Washington might help…

      • EweTaw

        I was thinking of leaving for Spain. I like Spain. The food is good. The men are . . . well, they have men there. 🙂

        • Kruhn

          South of Spain apartments are cheap. You can get an apartment for €400 a month 2 blocks from the beach.

          • Falconlights

            Maybe my wife and I should think about Spain. I was there ages ago and really liked it.

          • DaveW

            We are going for thanksgiving. Looking for tips. Right now only Madrid,Avila, Toledo, Segovia planned. Six says, feels like enough? Would do other excursions for medieval architecture or church treasuries

    • Sam_Handwich

      Many people are recommending deep breathing, mouthwash and an espresso enema.

      • The Oxford comma could be someone’s friend in that sentence….

        • Sam_Handwich

          okay, bend, over

        • SFBruce

          Until today, I’d never heard of an Oxford comma, but thanks to you, I now know. Your comment made it clear even before I engaged Mr. Google.

          • EweTaw

            Bernstein on Words approves of the Oxford Comma whereas most people these days regard it as otiose. I follow Bernstein’s advice on most everything to do with grammar and punctuation. But he’s dead and so will I be sooner than I want to think about it.

          • NZArtist
          • Lazycrockett
          • DaveW

            Nope, that’s silly. For the second sentence to read the way oxford devotees want, you would use a semi colon. First sentence is improper punctuation, otherwise known as comma abuse.

          • perversatile

            Eats, Shoots & Leaves by Lynne Truss
            Amusing and falls under the category
            ”be careful you might learn something”.

        • EweTaw

          Yeah. Either an espresso or a mouthwash enema. Never mix never worry. 🙂

          • Traxley Launderette

            C’mon, live life on the edge.

      • ColdCountry

        For the election, or the colonoscopy?

    • moebym

      It’s thanks to this election that I seriously considered taking marijuana.

      • Falconlights

        I do notice that my consumption of creme de cacao with a float of creme is up. The thought of Trump as President would drive a teetotaler to drink!

    • bob

      a colonoscopy is a piece of cake compared to this mess !

      • EweTaw

        For you maybe. For me not so much. 🙂

        • Richard, another Canuck

          Yopu wouldn’t even feel it. They give you good meds for that. You probably wouldn’t even remember the procedure. Now the prep though is another story!

          • Stubenville

            Don’t plan on leaving the bathroom for four to five hours – seriously. Most places knock you out for the colonoscopy, so it’s far easier than the prep.

          • Robincho

            Fentanyl™ plus Versed™ have transformed this once odious procedure into pure meh. With eyelids at half-mast, I even watched my most recent one on tv, and recall preferring it over certain episodes of Gilligan’s Island. Admittedly, the prep can be annoying, but less so if you regard it as your chance for the world’s MOST conscientious douche. The specter of any possible Santorum™ is eliminated entirely…

      • Todd20036

        I HAte those. But I think I’ll need one soon. Just because I’m approaching 50

  • Herald

    OT More about trump’s boast that he pays lots of taxes:
    “But documents obtained by The Huffington Post show that the candidate has also repeatedly fought to lower the amount he pays in state and local taxes, in some cases telling authorities that his properties are worth tens of millions of dollars less than he’s claimed in his federal election filings.”
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-local-taxes_us_580918ffe4b000d0b155a46c

  • SoCalGal20

    FL Senate debate going on right now with Rubio and Murphy. Going about as you’d expect.

    https://twitter.com/juansaaa/status/791416077133631488

    • Bruno

      He’ll still win. Somehow people find him charming or charismatic. He’s neither.

      • Ninja0980

        Sad to say but Murphy and Grayson were the best candidates Democrats could come up with.
        If someone like Gwen Graham had run, he’d be toast.

        • Bruno

          Murphy doesn’t seem so awful. Grayson would’ve been a catastrophe.

        • bkmn

          Just saw on twitter that Murphy nailed Rubio with a great line during the debate “If you voted as often as you lie, you might be a good Senator.”

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        It’s the boots.

      • Max_1
        • Bruno

          Little Marco Fauntledouche.

        • Henri205

          Didn’t I see that photo when I toured The Breakers in Newport? Little Gloria…… Oh, wait.

        • grada3784

          Little Lord Fauntlerubio?

        • Homo Erectus

          He is cute as a button! But I say that about most of the little dicks I’ve met.

  • Dagoril

    I am fairly certain that all of this Schadenfreude is bad for my liver or something 😉

    • greenmanTN

      I think it’s an RNC plot to make Foie Gras out of us after the election.

  • Henry Auvil

    We need to lay this “voter fraud” malarkey at the feet of all the GOP politicians who cynically used it to disenfranchise voters. Lookin’ at you, Governor Batboy (R-FL).

  • Jmdintpa

    haha i cant wait for the rigged election rumors to get this much needed gasoline !!

  • NancyP

    Time to see if they need someone to pass out non-partisan voting rights info in St. Louis region – Trump / Stone targeting STL. FU, DJT, and not in a friendly way. The only saving grace is that the likely “vote protectors” are probably too scared to set foot in black neighborhoods.

  • Fifth-and-a-Half Element
  • Bruno

    O/T look at all the national polls today…

    Fox: C+3
    AP/GfK: C+14
    USA Today/Suffolk: C+10
    PPP: C+6
    Times Picayune/Lucid: C+4
    Rasmucus: C+1
    USC Dornslife/LA Times: t+1
    ABC/WaPo: C+9

    …and how ridiculously all over the place they are. A 15 point spread between them all.

  • Mike__in_Houston

    OT: Ted Cruz suggests leaving the vacancy on the Supreme Court:

    https://lasvegassun.com/news/2016/oct/26/cruz-suggests-leaving-vacancy-on-supreme-court/

    So much for “let the people decide who the next justice should be,” not that I believed that BS when the ReTHUGS first said it…

    • Ninja0980

      John McCain already let that cat out of the bag.
      Cruz is simply confirming that.

      • Cuberly

        ….but, is Cruz’ timing a good or a bad thing here? I lean towards usual tone-deaf bad. Creepy lizard man guaranteeing more gov gridlock. Yeah, he’s tossing red meat to his followers, well, those that haven’t already voted him off the alt-right island.

        Undecideds may look at that and think, oh hell no. A few perhaps.

        • Herald

          One can hope

          • Cuberly

            Yes indeedy!

    • Michael R

      Do they believe in the Constitution or don’t they ?
      Like religion , only when it suits them , works to their advantage .
      To contribute anything you have to be more than an obstructionist .

      • Falconlights

        Only when it backs them up. Otherwise it’s “Just damned piece of paper”, as one of them said a few years back.

    • Bruno

      If that’s what ends up happening if the Senate stays Rethug, I’m leaving this fucking hellhole of a country.

      • Falconlights

        I would if I could, believe me. My only hope is that some sane country allows for refugees.

    • Falconlights

      When a Rethuglican says something like that, you can assume that they want just the opposite…or that they want only THEIR people to decide. Rethuglicians consider large swaths of the US as being unworthy of being able to vote.

  • thom

    do I think she will win? yes. but I don’t think it’ll be a landslide, I don’t think it will give her a clear mandate, I don’t think it will destroy the gop, I don’t think we win the house and I think control of the Senate is 50-50.
    looks like Portman, McCain, Heck and Rubio all win easily. ayotte can probably pull out a win too.

    Some comparisons after four days of early voting data in NV between 2016 and 2012. It’s very similar.https://t.co/1pS7nvPBhm

    National @FoxNews Poll:Clinton 44 (+3)Trump 41A 3 point shift toward Trump since mid October https://t.co/OKhDvpN4E4

    Nevada NBC/WSJ/Marist Poll:Clinton 43Trump 43Johnson 10H2H:Clinton 45Trump 45

    Monmouth poll of NH:Clinton +4Ayotte-Hassan tied

    One thing that is clear to me from today’s numbers is the GOP has a real shot (even if not majority shot) to hold the Senate.
    @forcasterenten

    NC Dems now off their 2012 pace by 9.8% (Reps 7.0%). Will have to see if Dem numbers rebound when in-person early polling locations restored

    FloridaBloomberg Politics/Selzer Poll:
    Trump 45% (+2)Clinton 43% https://t.co/iYL1BYNDx9 https://t.co/GkJJMhMTZU

    • Ninja0980

      I think we’ll win the Senate but it will be by the skin of our teeth.

      • NZArtist

        … and then capitulate to repeated Republican ‘threat to filibuster’ on every piece of legislation. Do you remember the ’90s?

        • Ninja0980

          I was only a good so no but I think the gloves will be off this time, especially when it comes to the courts.

          • NZArtist

            How? The Republicans have no morality and no civic responsibility. They dont care about governance, they want power.
            Only a Democratic supermajority would change anything, and that’s not happening this round.

          • Herald

            That is exactly why you can be sure they are hiding a lot of dirt on them. Start treating them like they treat Hillary.

          • NZArtist

            You know what happens to people who threaten the Mafia?

          • Herald

            It is about time the Dems take the gloves off. They cannot treat these evil obstructionists like they are honorable people. It is time to do the deep oppo research and get them out of office or at least defanged.

    • Bruno

      You’ve cherry-picked all the worst polling today here, though, haven’t you?

      • thom

        lol. yeah, somewhat. although I didn’t include rasmussen or IDB or Monmouth Arizona.
        I just don’t see the landslide we were all anticipating last week. Ohio and Iowa look out of reach, their early voting trends are bad too.
        and the Senate looks like it’s slipping away

        • Bruno

          It was never going to be a “landslide,” at least by my definition. I do think Ohio looks like it’s slipping away. I’ve seen some polling out of Iowa that actually has her up a few points, but there haven’t seemed to be any great polling firms publishing from there lately. As for early voting trends, I’ve heard mixed things about Ohio, some great for Dems some not so great. It’s not writing anything in stone.

          As for the Fox poll…3 points is not that big a shift, really, especially in national polling. That could be statistical noise, nothing to worry too much about unless all the other polls are corroborating the shift. Which they aren’t yet. I talked about Florida in the other thread, but if Florida is Clinton +3, like 3 other polls today have it, then tRump +2 or Clinton +6 are not outlandish outliers. It’s just going to happen with a poll here or there.

          • thom

            I think you can tell a lot by where the candidates go. Clinton has basically been living in Florida. I think she’s making it her firewall.
            I know you weren’t buying the landslide idea. but lots of people a week ago were talking about Utah, Texas and Alaska… talking about 400 electoral votes… winning both houses… trump suffering a humiliating defeat that would crush the gop.
            sorry, but it ain’t happening

          • Bruno

            I agree, no, that was never happening. Arizona at best. But I do think she takes NV, NC & FL for a comfortable win, even if she loses OH & IA.

          • thom

            I can buy that, about the same margin that Obama won in 2012.

            I’m surprised about the red/blue shift. Hillary is outperforming in really red states like Texas, Alaska, Georgia, Arizona, Utah. but struggling in Iowa, Ohio, Michigan, Maine. the problem is most of the southern states are still a couple cycles away from flipping

          • Bruno

            She’s getting more vote in racially diverse states, including ones she won’t win like Alabama and Mississippi, while he’s gained in less diverse states like IA, ME & OR, or states with large swaths of Appalachia like OH. She’s actually doing fine in MI I think, but maybe a little less fine in WI. But she’ll win MI & WI and get at least 3 EV’s out of ME. He’s not doing well enough to win PA and she’s got him dead to rights in VA, so there really isn’t much of a path for him if any at all. The Dems’ strong early voting performance in NV may actually be sealing the deal here as we speak.

          • Ninja0980

            In places like IA,MI,OH and in my state of NY, young folks are leaving the rural areas and smaller towns for the cities, or down South or out West.
            All you have left are the older angry white voters who want to go back to a time period of Leave It to Beaver that never existed anyway.

    • NZArtist

      What sucks most is even if the Dems win a Senate/House majority they’ll capitulate to the GOP ‘threat of filibuster’ in every case anyway.
      No legislative progress will be made.
      Dems need to win a super-majority or it’ll just be business as usual again.

    • Sam_Handwich

      Paul Ryan is in deep doodoo. I’d rather they keep the house by a smaller margin and let their white nationalist battle continue to fester through 2018 and 2020.

      • thom

        I don’t think we have that choice. the house was always a reach but I don’t think we can even get the Senate

        • Sam_Handwich

          what worries you most? IN, NH, NV?

          • thom

            NV, NH

        • Bruno

          Come on, we can get the Senate. Duckworth will win and Feingold will too. Bayh will most likely win. Cortez Masto is leading all the recent polls in NV, that’s very likely. That just leaves one more between Kander, Hassan (who’s in a dead tie with Ayotte), Ross (who I saw was up in a poll today by 1), and McGinty. Not undoable in the least.

          • Sam_Handwich

            minority turnout will be key in most of them.

            i want to see Trump turn out more POC than Obama did

    • moebym

      I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised at the strength of Hillary’s ground game, which won’t really be reflected in the polls (except the final one). Every single day, there are people knocking on doors, making calls, and entering data for hours.

      • Herald

        Please push the down ticket races!

  • another_steve

    Voter intimidation will be THE major story on Election Day.

    Hopefully, the DNC is pouring millions of dollars into the effort to monitor and/or prevent it on November 8.

  • thom

    This Trump supporter has a speaking “Lying Hillary” doll that hangs from a noose. https://t.co/6cNbXSivLT

    • moebym

      These losers don’t realize that they’re just making us work that much harder to get her elected.

    • kareemachan

      How fast they turn to violence – and are proud of it.

    • Michael R

      Choose one :

      Hillary Clinton or that opinionated fucking nobody .

    • fuzzybits

      She seems so proud.

      • EweTaw

        I thought that was a man.

        • Dreaming Vertebrate

          Impossible to tell with many of these teabagger types.

  • geoffalnutt

    Har! Har! Har! (as per Rachel Maddow): If actually prosecuted it means the RNC won’t be able to try this shit (poll-watching, voter intimidation) until 2025. It’s the only way they can ever win. Assholes.

  • Max_1

    Undercover video’s posted at The Telegraph…

    Exclusive investigation: Donald Trump faces foreign donor fundraising scandal
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/24/exclusive-investigation-donald-trump-faces-foreign-donor-fundrai/

    Exclusive investigation: Donald Trump campaigner boasted of ‘suppressing’ African American and ‘suburban mum’ voters
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/25/exclusive-investigation-donald-trump-campaigner-boasted-of-suppr/

    • SoCalGal20

      I hope this story gets more widely picked up.

  • Clive Johnson

    Another breaking story, or at least one that is finally gaining traction:

    October Surprises: Trump’s Child Sex Trafficking is Finally Becoming a Major Story (Update)
    http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/10/25/1586568/-Daily-Beast-Inside-Donald-Trump-s-One-Stop-Parties-Attendees-Recall-Cocaine-and-Very-Young-Models

    Please pass along the Daily Beast story, linked in the article, to everyone you know.

    • Herald

      He is even more evil than any of us imagined, and we have imagined him very evil. The evil goes very deep in him and he has been that way for a very long time. I wish every media outlet would push these accounts and push them hard.

  • I Love That Story

    Take off your white sheet and pointy hat and tell us again, Chief Justice John Roberts, how civil rights are different from 35 years ago, and why voting rights protections are no longer needed.

    • Ninja0980

      He was lying through his teeth and he knew it.

  • AtticusP
    • another_steve

      I predict 41 percent of voting Americans will, come November 8, reveal themselves to be deplorable.

      This will definitely kill any chance on my part of an erection on that day — which will be particularly sad in light of how rare the erections have become in my dotage.

      • AtticusP

        Well, Steve, I’m hoping for less than 40%, but you’re probably right.

        But frankly, at my age, I have grown to believe that erections are WAY overrated.

        Especially the ones that Donald Trump and his foolish investors are still putting up…

        “Scion”, my Aunt Fanny! He’s ruined the brand!

        Good.

        • another_steve

          I remember, with considerable fondness, erections.

          I think, these days, that were it not for all the free Czech twink porn on the web, I’d never have one again.

  • StraightGrandmother

    Bring on Discovery!
    Open those e-mails!
    I guarantee you they are going to be more explosive than John Podesta’s Risotto Recipe.

    • another_steve

      You go gurl.

      And where is the next Trump tape? Word has it that Trump is on tape using the “N’ word, and not in a campy manner.

      If I understand the strategy here, the Clinton campaign is waiting for the right moment — perhaps one week from election day — to release it.

  • Ron

    Rachel Maddow covered the Consent Decree story brilliantly, as usual, a couple of days ago!

    • TrollopeReader

      …and just moments ago!

      • Ron

        Yes indeed! I’m watching!

  • ByronK
    • Michael R
    • another_steve

      I don’t like to dwell on the thought that Donald Trump has male genitals.

      The thought somehow offends me.

    • RainbowPhoenix

      God only knows what Ivanka and Tiffany will have to say once their father loses and/or drops dead.

    • Max_1

      Well, they do both keep fucking with Americans, so he’s partially correct.

  • boatboy_srq

    Trump is the GOTea’s own hole that they dug for themselves.

    More popcorn, please.

    • another_steve

      Popcorn will not suffice, come November 8.

      I have two quarts of Beefeater at the ready.

      • boatboy_srq

        Martinis? You surprise me. I expect to be reaching for the champagne.

        • another_steve

          Champagne is good.

          I’ll have to discuss with my husband.

          • Bob Conti

            If you don’t want the Beefeaters, I’ll gladly help you out. Just a swirl of vermouth then dump and shake it out then add the gin from the shaker. Nummy!

          • another_steve

            I’ve sent back Beefeater martinis as a result of that practice. I mean, I love the stuff but please don’t give me a martini glass of it, raw and undiluted.

            You (generic “you”) can go fuck yourself with the “swirl the vermouth around the glass and toss it” shit.

          • Bob Conti

            OUCH!

          • Stubenville

            That sounds like a Boston Martini. The difference is that you open the vermouth, wave the cap over the shaker, add gin, and stir. Oh, and pass the Bremner Wafers.

            http://www.bremnerbiscuitco.com/

  • HZ81

    Love it. Nail these fuckers to the wall.

  • kareemachan

    GOP, if you’re not gonna listen, you’re gonna have to sit in the Naughty Seat 8 more years – it’s as simple as that.

    Now, in 8 years, I want you to apologize.

    • EweTaw

      In 8 years I want them to not exist.

      • William

        Hey Kool-Aid!

  • bob

    Glad they filed! But , they haven’t learn their lesson since 1981. It’s time for stricter measures .

  • Joseph Miceli

    Typical Republican. If they can’t win by lying, gerrymandering or changing the rules, they’ll just cheat.
    Voter fraud indeed!

  • StraightGrandmother

    Oh-oh, read this part of the complaint

    Rudy Giuliani, a close Trump adviser and the former Republican Mayor of New York City, explicitly expressed in a nationally televised interview that voter fraud is concentrated in predominantly minority communities in “inner cities” that support “Democrats,” like “Philadelphia and Chicago.” Genova Cert. at Ex. 23 (Eric Bradner, Giuliani on Rigged Election: ‘Dead People Generally Vote for Democrats’, CNN, Oct. 16, 2016). In the midst of these comments, Trump rolled out a form on his campaign website for supporters to sign up to be “Trump Election Observers” and thereby “Stop Crooked Hillary From Rigging This Election!” See Genova Cert. at Ex. 7 (“Volunteer to be a Trump Election Observer,” DonaldJTrump.com.).

    These people are rank amateurs, LOL!. To bad they didn’t file this lawsuit before the last debate.

    If Trump has got anything up his sleeve we will be hearing it shortly. Hot Damn, what an election. Romney must be busting a blood vessel watching this.

    Edit: I just read some more of the complaint

    Roger Stone, one of Trump’s top advisors, has amplified Trump’s message. Stone was a key advisor to the 1981 campaign of former New Jersey Governor Thomas Kean, in which a “ballot security” force wearing black armbands engaged in widespread voter intimidation in Newark, Camden, Paterson and other minority neighborhoods in the State, leading to this very action and the Consent Decree that Stone is helping to violate today. See Genova Cert. at Ex. 8 (Jeffrey Toobin, The Dirty Trickster, The New Yorker, June 2, 2008). Stone is currently running a website called “StopTheSteal.org” that is actively signing up Trump supporters to “volunteer” to fight “voter fraud.” #StopTheSteal is a popular hashtag among Trump supporters on Twitter, and Stone’s group maintains an active Facebook presence

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      So, … it is rigged!
      By Trump and his racist goons!!

      • McSwagg

        Now tRumpf’s recent comments about a rigged election make sense. The GOP has rigged the system so tRumpf should win. If tRumpf loses, it means that the Dems counter-rigged the system against him. They’ll cover up their rigging and point an accusatory finger at the Dems.

    • clay

      They’re backing it up with a challenge to PA’s (state’s rights!) law that the real observers have to be county residents, cuz they don’t think there are enough GOPpers in the city to watch the approx. 1000 voting sites in Philly.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/22/pennsylvania-republicans-sue-to-allow-poll-watchers-to-cross-county-lines/

      • Herald

        The Repubs know they can only win by fraud and are going to incredible lengths to do just that.

      • Stubenville

        Thanks; hadn’t seen that.

  • SoCalGal20

    Somebody should file a RICO complaint against the GOP.

  • does anyone play or listen to a lot of woodwinds?

    i’m thinking of a red headed gf of ages past, tonight. she was 1c oboe. that’s the problem today, not enough folks get to learn to play, even marginally. i pretty much suck at every music i’ve ever tried, which is a lot. but i’m glad to have failed, and at the same time, been with people who were actually good. that was an honor.

    eep, i just was tired of politics. sorry. back to your regularly scheduled etc.

    • Cuberly

      For what it’s worth, I really love Ralph Vaughn Williams’ Oboe Concerto.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCJu4eNdMxY

      • another_steve

        Beautiful, Cuberly. Thanks.

        Some music aficionados claim that of all the wind instruments, the oboe most closely replicates the human voice.

        • Cuberly

          Love the oboe, the cello is my favorite but oboe is a close second.

          • another_steve

            I played and studied the flute in university. My instructor told me I had the “right lip” for it. 😉

            A long time ago.

            But I do not regret the glorious experience of it.

          • Cuberly

            I played the flute as well, from 5th grade all the way to Jr High, could never develop the sound, I was shrill, embouchure + breath control for a flute is insane. The highest I got was 2nd chair…..lol…I definitely had the lip for it, I just sucked at all the rest.

            And of course, this discussion gives me an excuse to post my most favorite RVW piece, the 2nd movement from Op.2 A London Symphony. Still think this is the best rendition I’ve ever heard. Oboe + flute and lush strings, the cellos work it in this. (sigh)

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt86LRFtmnA

          • another_steve

            So beautiful. Thank you.

            I’ve bookmarked it.

          • Cuberly

            If you like RVW this is a great CD. It includes a Butterworth piece, wonderful, another talent cut down during WW I. The reason RVW wrote Op.2.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2khnRAAcV8

            Had to post a Franz Marc piece of art, shit went down on both sides. Talent lost.

            https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/ae/d3/a0/aed3a0cf27b5e4f93711f96b4b4c8367.jpg

          • another_steve

            Vaughan Williams is one of my favorites. As you know, he was incredibly prolific and diverse.

            I own one of the massive CD compilations of his music, and practically had to build an addition to my house to store it.

          • TrollopeReader

            “I definitely had the lip for it, I just sucked at all the rest.”

            Well !! 🙂

            now back to the music!

    • boatboy_srq

      Woodwinds rock.

      My folks thought piano; I thought guitar. Neither worked out all that well.

    • boatboy_srq

      Woodwinds rock.

      My folks thought “piano;”I thought “guitar.” Neither worked out all that well.

  • Michael Smith

    This is good news. Any day now I expect Republicans in Nevada to start singing Always Look on the bright side of Life:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/RalstonReports/status/791429313258151936

    • EweTaw

      Tarkanian is a special case. He never had a chance before he decided to run. He’s been convicted of tax fraud and was directed by the court to pay back more than 17 million bucks in fines, taxes and embezzled money. He walked away from it having not paid back one penny. He’s an old time Nevada criminal politician. I’m amazed he’s made it this far. But his worrying about a problem with getting enough votes could have been precicted before either he or Joe Heck filed to run for office. Joe Heck filled the vacancy of the evangelical John Ensign who resigned in shame for getting caught fucking his secretary and paying off her husband to keep everything quiet. Since Heck took office he’s done exactly nothing as a congressman except show up to serve in the Air Force Reserve. He’s a military emergency room physician, a Mormon and not highly regarded by anyone except the Mormons in southern Nevada. I hope Tarkanian is correct and Heck goes down in major flames. Even in Utah his opponent, Masto-Cortez, has a positive reputation as an Attorney General of Nevada who has worked with the Western States Coalition to eliminate child sex slavery and put fraudulent developers (like Tarkanian) behind bars.

      • MaryOGrady

        Heck is running incredibly dirty TV ads against Cortez Masto. My impression is that she is maintaining a good lead.

        • moebym

          Was bombarded with nasty anti-CCM ads while at a restaurant Tuesday night. Made me sick. She is NOT the kind of person the ads suggest she is.

          • MaryOGrady

            I know.
            Her father went from parking cars at the old Sahara to working as a city employee. She and her sister were the first in the family to go to college.
            She has a great record as state attorney general. Heck is just mudslinging. (He’s a big Trump supporter so it comes naturally.)

    • TrollopeReader

      gosh, that all sounds just fine !

    • leastyebejudged

      With the very, very important Questions on the ballot this time around I don’t feel anything but anxiety ! This is no joke, we need Yes’s, the future of NV is at stake.

    • MaryOGrady

      What a coincidence, He posted that the last day I spent in Las Vegas campaigning for HRC and other Democratic candidates, including his opponent.

    • Homo Erectus

      That is soooo sad.

  • Snarkaholic

    To anyone who anticipates possibly being intimidated on their way to vote: Buy an ugly orange foam trucker hat at the dollar store; wear it, along with a beer-stained sweatshirt; and slouch/shuffle as you walk past the bigots (I’m serious).

    • fuzzybits

      I have two middle fingers that work a lot better.

    • No, because maybe that’ll help you, but it won’t help the other people trying to vote.

      First of all, consider calling local law enforcement — sheriff, local cops, etc. Believe it or not, the vast majority of them take their jobs seriously and intimidating people just trying to vote is a pretty serious matter.

      Then:

      According to the FBI, complaints regarding voter intimidation (among other voting law violations) should be referred to their Public Integrity Section, as well as of their field offices around the country. Several social advocacy groups, including the Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights, have also banded together to form the Election Protection coalition, a non-partisan group offering voters guidance against intimidation tactics and other issues.

      https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices

      and

      http://www.866ourvote.org/

      • Hína Kemenduro

        Hmm… thinking something along the lines of… LOCK HIM UP!
        (Sorry for the shouting.)

      • P.S. There’s a twitter graphic going around that has a couple of phone numbers on it. Don’t keep reposting that one, because Snopes has determined they don’t go to the labeled destinations and not really the right place at all. Use those links above. The 866 people seem to be very well organized.

  • SoCalGal20
    • clay

      Check out the (Freudian) sign in the mid-ground.

      • Cuberly

        Ok, now it’s even creepier.

        • Hína Kemenduro

          My favorite, and not creepy, image along those lines says “METROPOLITAN RAGE WAREHOUSE IRE PROOF” can be found here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/363942104/
          It is in Cambridge MA, near MIT. A corner “tower” of sorts blocks out parts of the actual text… amusing nerds for decades now.

    • oh my god… And these goons have the nerve to suggest Bill Clinton was a sexual predator?

      “I would fuck her, take her now,” another source recalls Trump saying during production, saying that the “marriage/flirting stuff” was also a recurring thing.
      “He would say really gross shit about her all the time, sometimes in the boardroom—that he said these things about her was the least surprising thing, really,” the ex-staffer continued. “He would comment all the time saying how ‘incredibly beautiful’ she was, with this ‘gorgeous and perfect body.’ He kept leering after her the whole time she was on for [that 13th] season. She definitely became something of a sexual obsession to him, and everyone could see it… Again, that wasn’t shocking to anyone on the show. At that point, after many years, it was just him being Trump.”
      The former staffer commented that Trump’s observations of Roderick’s backside and breasts seemed almost pervasive, a point that was corroborated by colleagues.
      “He definitely said crude, awful things about her fairly frequently, no doubt,” another Apprentice alumnus told The Daily Beast. “I can’t remember exact [full] comments he made, but ‘fuck’ and ‘tits’ came up a fair amount.”
      “Whenever tape was rolling, we’d have to tell [Trump]—every day—‘you can’t say that, you can’t say this,’” another former Apprentice staffer said. “It’d be ‘fuck’ this, ‘how do you think you’d want to fuck her’ that, ‘what do you think about her ass’ [that], ‘what do you think about her tits.’ It was a daily thing! It was like nothing was on his mind except for sex.”

      Mind, this was in 2009 and 2013, both years during which Donald was married to Melania.

      • Herald

        Yes they do. Bill had affairs and cheated on Hillary, trump is a predator, there is a big difference between the two.

        • EweTaw

          Kind of like the difference between consensual sex and rape.

      • Clive Johnson

        “But he’s the best candidate to represent my deeply held religious beliefs.”

      • Bryan

        Too bad there’s no recorded show footage of him saying that stuff.

        • NZArtist

          There is. Plenty. Currently held under wraps and NDA contracts. But it will surface.

      • another_steve

        Bill Clinton had the good sense to try and keep his gonadal proclivities out of the public sphere. Unsuccessfully, but boyfriend nevertheless deserves credit for having tried.

        This fucking Presidential campaign cycle — this horrible and fucking Presidential campaign cycle — serves as a warning to us all:

        Never put in writing or speak in public, never — email, tweets, whatever — anything you wouldn’t want the general public to know.

        Never do that.

        • Unless one is an actual sexual predator with the morals of a crocodile, in which case, please do proceed. 😉

      • ByronK

        Just reading that he used the word tits makes me want to shower with a power sander. As distressing and horrific all of these things are, it has certainly ripped the cover of of misogyny in North American society most notably in conservative circles. How many women were in the audience at the Al Smith dinner who weren’t arm candy? Not that many. As I said a while ago, if the push back from conservatives was bad with a black President, they haven’t seen anything yet.

        • I admit my bias: When a woman comes forth to accuse a man of sexual misconduct — especially if that man is rich, powerful and/or has an existing history of being skeezy — I am inclined always to believe her. Always.

          Too many women aren’t listened to, aren’t believed, and then some ignorant moron will ask why women didn’t come forward earlier — even as the current accusers are receiving credible rape and death threats. Only there almost always is a history.

          But the accusations of Paula Jones, Juanita Broderick and Kathleen Willey were all investigated, and found to be without merit. Jones’ claims were basically debunked. Brockerick wasn’t able to provide any evidence of an assault and continued to appear with and support Clinton after the alleged attack. And Willey admitted under oath that her flirting and dalliance with Bill was consensual.

          When a woman makes an unfounded allegation out of personal spite or political motives, she damages the credibility of 100 actual sexual assault and harassment victims. All of this is why I’m both relieved and glad to hear that all of Donald’s accusers pretty much do seem to have solid allegations. Plus there’s Donald right there on tape admitting he sexually assaults women, with additional corroboration from witnesses to his hellbeast behavior and langauge.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Trump is rebranding his hotels as Scion.
      Meanwhile, NBC is rebranding Apprentice reruns as “the Predator”.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Celebrity Entice.

  • Leo

    O/T and I didn’t see posted or in comments:

    The original so-called “Patient Zero” is now officially ‘innocent’: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/27/health/hiv-patient-zero-genetic-analysis.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

    • Sam_Handwich

      i was in my late teens when i read And The Band Played On. it didn’t help

      • another_steve

        Child, you.

        I was a fully grown and mature fag when, in 1981, I read in the New York Times of the “gay cancer” cases that were being reported in New York City.

        I was there. I am a survivor.

        • Stubenville

          I think the worst part was friends taking ill suddenly, and in some cases, dying within days. Or you’d be asking about someone, and there would be a long pause and you’d hear that they were “sick.” That was a lot to bear for someone in their twenties.

          • another_steve

            Yes, of course.

            We who were there must continue to tell our stories, and to comfort one another.

    • another_steve

      From the get-go, the whole idea of “guilt” vis-à-vis the spreading of HIV was offensive.

      AIDS activists picked up on that early on, and fought it.

  • Reality.Bites

    OT: I was just about to watch Janet and Rocky go at it in the Rocky Horror remake and a thought struck me… anyone heard from Susan Sarandon lately?

    I’d really like her to explain to other women how Trump’s winning is really better than Clinton winning.

    • Ninja0980

      Or how him winning will help any progressive legislation she wants to see passed.

  • JellyDonut

    so many people are voting early……

    • Cuberly

      The numbers coming in, particularly FL, intersting stuff. But I refuse to get my hopes up. I’m staying very calm….yep, calm is what I’m staying….

      (pout)

      • clay

        With all this reporting going on (which I don’t like), it kinda makes sense that early voting is more available on the West Coast.

        • Cuberly

          California does one REALLY stupid thing though. On the mail-in ballot return envelope it tells you that the ballot may require additional postage.

          The fact you have to pay for postage is sort of insane to begin with. But each county has a different number of ballots to return, could be 2-3-4, so the weight would be different depending on where you live.

          Some have called this voter suppression. Like people would fill out the ballots and then forget to post them or just meh because it was inconvenient. Though I could see this being a problem for some elderly voters.

          One good thing, most counties have an online site where you can confirm that your ballot was received. They got mine yesterday.

        • another_steve

          We have early voting here in Maryland too, but I don’t choose it. I like the dramatics of presenting at the polling place on the final day.

          The very gay dramatics.

  • AtticusP
    • another_steve

      In Yiddish culture we call the 2016 Presidential campaign experience a “shanda fer di goyim.”

      A shanda fer di goyim is something your mother taught you was so beneath you and the dignity of your people that you dare not go there. It was, like, a terrible debasement.

      A terrible insult.

  • Maggie 4NoH8

    EXCELLENT

  • Mike_Bernard

    Just an eight-year extension? Let’s go for 20!

  • bambinoitaliano

    What is the consequences if caught? Not like those gun men are going to identify themselves as GOP or Trump goons. The judges can’t just toss out Trump’s voters ballots. The most is more sanctions or fine that have no immediate effect on the election. Anyone familiar with the laws in this regard?

  • ColdCountry

    While the exit poll people may sign something saying everything is accurate, who says the people they ask are telling the truth? After reading this, I’d be tempted to tell anyone who asked that I voted for Trump. If I could actually make myself say the words, that is.

  • lattebud

    Even an attorney who worked for the RNC called this out a week ago

    http://player.theplatform.com/p/7wvmTC/MSNBCEmbeddedOffSite?guid=n_maddow_consentdecree_161019

    • lattebud

      Oh… And there is a cutie in a blue shirt over Ben Ginsberg’s right shoulder… An incentive to watch for 3:31.

      • another_steve

        The “cutie in the back row” phenomenon is a definite impediment to realizing one’s civic responsibility to be an informed citizen.

        I’ll be watching a C-SPAN broadcast of some government official giving testimony at this or that congressional hearing, and this gorgeous 20-something with fabulous hair and eyebrows will be sitting right behind her/him.

        So I’m like, “Gurl in the front row is saying what?

        Gurl is talking?

  • SoCalGal20
    • DaddyRay

      Love Madison

  • SoCalGal20

    What a fucking weasel. The Dems need to run a viable candidate against him in 2018.

    https://twitter.com/jasoninthehouse/status/791445788656226304

    • Lazycrockett

      He already said earlier that he has enough records to launch 2 or 3 different hearings to try and impreach her.

      • SoCalGal20

        Yeah, he has “years” of hearings lined up.

      • Conviction on House impeachment charges takes a 2/3 vote in the Senate.

        Ain’t. Gonna. Ever. Happen.

    • TrollopeReader

      so he lied to his 15 yo daughter a couple of weeks ago. what an asshole.

      • Lazycrockett

        The pundit on The Last Word just said he has no “balls”.

        • TrollopeReader

          yes, i tweeted that to him !

    • “HRC is bad for the GOP.”

      Fixed it for the craven little shit-weasel. What’s sadder is he is incapable of realizing Trump is also bad for the Republican party and his damage will last for generations to come.

      • djcoastermark

        Maybe that’s not such a bad thing ? ( I do get what your saying tho)

      • another_steve

        “craven little shit-weasel”

        Lol.

        Perhaps the highlight of my day.

        • I have spent this entire election cycle both expanding and honing my biting epithet vocabulary. It will be one of the few positive personal effects of 2016…well, that, and the fact since I’ve hardly been eating due to stress, I dropped 25 lbs and am nearly at my ‘fit’ weight again.

          But I do enjoy apt metaphors for describing these immoral, ethics-devoid opportunistic monsters.

          • another_steve

            No secret that you are one of my favorite JMG commenters, Becca. 😉

          • Aww, thanks! You’ll also always be more than just ‘another’ Steve to me. (((hugs)))

    • Herald

      He is already vowing to investigate her probably wanting to impeach. He and many of the Repubs are traitors.

    • Ninja0980

      This shouldn’t shock any of us.
      Deep down, most Republicans agree with what Trump has said and done.
      Trump simply refused to use the dog whistles they do but deep down, they agree with him on most issues to a t.

      • SoCalGal20

        Oh I’m not shocked. The Republican party is morally bankrupt.

        In Chaffetz’s case, I have a feeling he has visions of being Speaker so ghe’s otta go along with the party line and/or whatever his big donors want.

      • Robincho

        … to a tea.

      • Falconlights

        Yep. They’ve just figured out that going public with it isn’t a good idea at the moment.

    • Cuberly

      I still think he’s worse than Cruz. Chaffetz is out for blood, he’s not particularly good at it, thankfully, but he’s a red-eyed bile spewing buffoon.

      I tend to think of him as the Mormon version of Gingrich.

      • UrsusArctos

        He has to be EXTRA Mormon. He’s the son of a Jew and a Christian Scientist. That’s one strike against him in UT. He was also a Democratic Dukakis supporter.
        With that history he has to be super, double, douchey to prove he’s a real deal Mormon GOPer.

  • Ninja0980

    By the way, if I hear one more Republican woman complain about Trump, I’ll scream.
    You ladies helped set the stage for this as well by condoning the GOP platform that called for rape victims to be forced to carry their rapist’s baby, fighting health care and maternity leave and most galling of all, joining in many of your male co-workers in trying to fight against the VAWA among other things.
    You don’t get to complain now that Trump is the standard bearer of your party, you helped get him there.

    • ByronK

      Yes, there were oh so many women voting on the platform. And any that did should be assigned duty to stand vigil at Shafly’s grave.

      • safari

        How can you tell if it’s a Phyllis banshee or if they buried her alive?

        • ByronK

          Well, she had been rotting for several years.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      Yeah, I’m pretty sick of these articles about GOP women going “What, you male GOPers would throw US under the bus after we spend decades busting our humps covering for you?” And I’m “They wanted to take away your bodily autonomy, don’t bother to fund rape kit testing, let companies pay you less, let churches boss you around, and only NOW you get it that they don’t give a damn about you? How stupid are you dumbasses?”

      They remind me of stories about foreign countries where horrible mother-in-laws who let their sons abuse and kill their daughter-in-laws by staging oven accidents so he can marry someone else without the stigma of a divorce and get another dowry.

      • Clive Johnson

        I really think it’s on the same continuum of values and mentality.

  • fuzzybits

    Jason Chaffetz said he will vote for Donnie after all.

    • johncAtl

      It would be so sweet for the Democrats to take the House so that Chaffetz no longer has any power.

    • Bruno

      He sees Utah slipping away in front of his eyes.

  • SoCalGal20

    There have been 6 R members of Congress that have flip flopped on their declaration to not vote for Trump.

    https://twitter.com/taniel/status/791452951957102592

    • johncAtl

      Apparently Reince Priebus has been busy giving head.

      • TrollopeReader

        ewww.

    • another_steve

      In this life, there are terrible judgment calls. We all make them from time to time.

      Any politician who hopes for a future in the Republic Party and is on record as supporting Donald Trump is making a terrible judgment call.

    • Lazycrockett

      So I guess we now know the political shelf life of grabbing a woman’s pussy.

      • Ninja0980

        They still think women should be forced to give birth against their will per their party platform so this shouldn’t shock any of us.

        • Or, if the pregnancy goes horribly wrong, as a significant percentage still do, the woman should have to die rather than receive life-saving treatment if that treatment involves removing a fetus, even if that fetus is already dead.

          That’s the GOP platform.

          I was absolutely livid when Donald flat out said it was legal to have an optional abortion right up until the day before birth. Roe v. Wade established beyond any doubt that the right to an elective (as opposed to medical emergency) abortion ends at fetal viability. After that, it’s called BIRTH or a C-SECTION. There is no such fucking thing as a last-day abortion!

          • William

            In case you didn’t see this

            Full Frontal with Samantha Bee
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX9YWSetUkQ

          • I did. LOVE Sam. I know she doesn’t want to, but I’d give anything for her to be on more than one night a week, for one 30min show with commercials.

            I NEED MOAR SAMANTHA!

            But yes, she pointed out how Catholic-run hospitals have abandoned the Hippocratic Oath in favor of letting women literally die rather than receive a life-saving abortion or life-preserving sterilization.

          • William

            The US should annex Canada so Sam can be president.

            That Catholic hospital segment was scary. When the Catholic hospital took over a badly run city hospital in Austin, they left all the services go on as they had. After a few years, the order came down to stop doing birth control and abortion. Since the city still owns the building, they marked out a section and operate it under different management and rules.

          • johncAtl

            OT, but since the Texas legislature only meets every two years can you imagine what it will be like in Austin next year? There are bulls at the rodeo that aren’t kicking the fence as hard as Cecil Bell is right now.

          • William

            The most pressing thing in the upcoming session, according to those in power, is a bathroom bill. With the Texas legislature in session every other year, we can sometimes be behind the curve when a new way to discriminate is discovered.

            Last i heard, Cecil Bell along with the usual cast of deplorables, is trying to get partner benefits declared illegal during the time before the Supreme Court ruling on same sex marriage.

            http://txvalues.org/2016/10/17/elected-officials-candidates-leaders-call-for-texas-supreme-court-to-hear-houston-same-sex-benefits-case/

            Keep beating that dead horse Cecil, it must might explode.

          • johncAtl

            I just keep mind that Texas had Ann Richards and Molly Ivins. So there is always hope.

          • William

            Their like will never be seen again.

          • MaryOGrady

            Actually, I hope that more like them are emerging.

          • Robincho

            May I assume that Cecil, in this case, does not rhyme with “vessel”?…

          • MaryOGrady

            I was there. We feminists warned them that the bishop would bring the hammer down sooner or later, and we demonstrated in front of the diocesan chancery office. When the bishop brought he hammer down, we went out and demonstrated again.

          • William

            The city should have cancelled the contract with Seton at that point.

          • MaryOGrady

            I heartily agree.
            I have no use at all for those nuns.
            In the fall of 1984, I was working as an operating room tech at their Holy Cross Hospital on Martin Luther King, Jr. (That hospital has since been torn down.) One fine morning a surgeon had his inguinal hernia patient on the table, prepped and sedated, He had agreed to vasectomize the guy as long as we were down there anyway. A nun came charging in while the surgeon was gowning and said there would be no vasectomies at that Catholic hospital. He tried reasoning with her, to no avail. He resigned his privileges on the spot and arranged to have the patient go somewhere else where he could get both surgeries in one episode of general anesthesia.
            We tried to tell the city leadership about that incident and others I did not witness when the Daughters of Charity were raring to take over Brackenridge. –sigh–

          • William

            That is insane. If the Catholic Church wants to operate hospitals, they should leave their religious beliefs out of patient care.

            Holy Cross brings up another major example of Austin stupidity. The Daughters of Charity offered the Holy Cross building free of charge to AISD as a new headquarters. The school district instead decided to pay full price during a real estate crash for an undersized and inadequate building on West 6th Street. The school district did decide to take the property and after demolishing Holy Cross, they put an elementary school on the site.

          • MaryOGrady

            Thank you– I did not know how that school got built there.

          • William

            I was surprised concerned parents didn’t freak out of the Austin Cancer Center being next door. They use radiation in there.

          • MaryOGrady

            Is that still the Shivers Cancer Center?
            It was named after Alan Shivers, one of Texas’s most loathsome racist governors.
            (I’m sure the medical radiation sources are well shielded. The staff has to be around them all day, every day, and none of them want to go the way poor Marie Curie did.)

          • William

            Shivers is at Brackenridge now. I don’t know when that happened.

            I know there is plenty of shielding for any radiation, I was expecting the nervous Nellies to get upset about the school’s location. Maybe if it was over in west Austin.

          • MaryOGrady

            Hmmm. Shivers moved to Brack.
            So many parents are so freaked out these days, all the dadgummed time. One friend a few years ago insisted on driving her daughter the three hundred yards to school and back ever single day, and this was in a middle-class neighborhood in Gonzales LA. Then there were the fascinating cases of “Why Can’t Johnny Stop Screaming?”: health-conscious parents were shoveling creamed spinach into their little darlings until they came down with agonizing renal colic from all the oxalic acid.

          • William

            Seton must have had the extra space and “encouraged” the Shivers center to move into the Brack professional building. I wonder if they sold or leased out the building on MLK.

            This sounds like more of the closing/combining Seton did to cut costs. They got Christopher House shut down by not allowing any Seton affiliated doctors to send patients there. Once the patient numbers dropped low enough, it was closed. It would have had a few more years before the advances in HIV medications made it less necessary.

            One brilliant move was to close the Faculty Clinic in the Brackenridge professional building and transfer the patients to the migrant women and children clinic downstairs. A lot of HIV+ people with decent insurance went to that clinic. What could be better than putting people with compromised immune systems in the same waiting room as children who had never been vaccinated against anything? A social worker friend told me that all her clients bailed from that clinic.

          • MaryOGrady

            They shut down Christopher House? Nothing I can type will adequately reflect the heat of my anger at this news.
            (The co-founder of Christopher House, a heterosexual old lady, was comforted to spend her final days there, by the way. I can’t remember her name at the moment.)
            I appreciate your telling me, though.
            I am also very angry to hear of that clinic shuffle.
            By the way, my late, horribly Catholic mother was stunned when the uninsured daughter of her friend died of untreated cancer ten years ago, in Corpus Christi where the nuns are very proud of expanding their empire over a large part of the older part of town by the bay. Charity care, my eye: that woman did not even get palliative care from the nuns.

          • William

            oh sorry, Christopher House is still open. Hospice Austin bought it in the late 1990s. I was going back to when it was an HIV/AIDS care facility. It operated as a sub unit of Brackenridge through some complex arrangement. Seton was unwilling to keep it running. They did a hatchet job on city run HIV care facilities. Hospice Austin bought the building after there were not enough patients to justify keeping it open. I have only heard good things about Hospice Austin.

            Interesting you mention Corpus Christi’ My ex was from there and his uncle died in the big Catholic hospital there almost ten years ago. He had kidney failure and was not eligible for a transplant. The doctors told him if he stopped dialysis he would go into a coma and drift away. Instead, he was awake and screaming until the end. They didn’t offer much in the way of pain management.

          • MaryOGrady

            That would be Spohn Hospital in Corpus. My youngest sister was born there, and my father died there.
            Thank you– it does my heart good to hear that Hospice Austin has Christopher House now.

          • Homo Erectus

            Donald lied? Say it ain’t so!

    • Michael Smith

      The answer to whether or not you support Trump shouldn’t be “it’s complicated”.

    • Robincho

      The Missing Marx Brothers:

      Zippo — he died from smoking too much
      Crapo — he died of explosive diarrhea…

      • Librarykid

        Was the explosion within his body or did it occur outside and take out the bathroom with him?

    • Falconlights

      Disgusting. They really can’t go low enough, can they?

  • Marides48

    Mmmmm, this is delicious!

  • safari

    Morgan Freeman narrates “Example”, one of Hillary’s closing ads
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-aXNXc_gzM

    • Y’all listen to God now. “…a steady hand…or a loose cannon.”

  • Stubenville
    • Thanks for posting that one, Stubenville. I’ve been wanting to add that gif to my collection. 😀

  • JoeMyGod

    Just had to delete a couple of comments advocating for physical harm.

    Please don’t do that, folks.

    Click the “about” tab for commenting rules if you’re new to JMG.

    • Joseph Miceli

      Our enemies read this and use it as ammunition. Wish that they lose. That’ll hurt more than anything!

      • DaddyRay

        Indeed – I want them all to witness the implosion of the Republican party

        • johncAtl

          I’m happy enough that Karl Rove is witnessing it. His plan in making George Bush president was to create a multi-generation dominance of the GOP at the national level. I guess he shouldn’t have chosen such an idiot as his cornerstone.

          And I hope at 11pm on 11/8 that he’ll be running around the Fox studio looking for those Trump votes in Ohio.

    • JoeMyGod

      Even jokes about physical harm by natural means are not allowed.

      • leastyebejudged

        What if you seriously wish the runs on someone ?

        • Dreaming Vertebrate

          Is that a deeply held religious belief??

          • leastyebejudged

            You could call it that, sure

          • Dreaming Vertebrate

            Don’t see any harm then. It’s gawd’s will.
            You might send them thoughts and prayers for a speedy recovery just to CYA.

        • William

          Send them to my house on a night my partner is cooking.

          • TrollopeReader

            should i invest in kaopechtate (sp?) ??

          • William

            Cyanide capsules are optional. The best thing is to know when to look at what is prepared and then go make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

        • Lumpy Gaga

          Can I still call for someone to wreck my ass?

          • leastyebejudged

            LOL, can you !

    • Thanks Joe. I was going to say something to those who posted it, figured you’d catch the problem.

  • DaddyRay

    My Cubbies Won – yahoo!

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Yay!!! Go Cubs!

    • Cuberly

      Someone said Cubbies? Oh…..(sigh) another sports ball thing. 🙁

      • I thought it was hockey.

        (ducks and runs away, cackling madly)

        • Cuberly

          Doh! Now I’m confused, is it a sports ball thing….or a puck? I’m so not up on the prevalent sports I should be obliged to be cheering….or something.

          • Dreaming Vertebrate

            You don’t need to know anything about the sport at all.
            Just stick a “Go” in front of the team’s name and you’re good to go.
            The fan is happy and you’re off the hook.
            It’s like “thoughts and prayers”.

          • Cuberly

            Great advice. My guess is you have to sprinkle in a degree of woooos and yeahs!

            When the SF Giants did their last sports ball winning thing parade in downtown SF. I was pretty much just working, as everyone else was staring out at the parade down below. Yaaaaaay?

          • I am required at regular intervals to say either “Go Packers” or “Go Cheeseheads.” My wife threatens terrible consequences if I do not comply, so I comply.

          • Dreaming Vertebrate

            That’s just SMART. Never come between a fan and their team.
            Here in Philly, it’s also a matter of survival.

          • I’ve even learned how to say both of those with a passable Wisconsin accent. It earns me bonus flyer miles.

          • UrsusArctos

            You could say that with a S MS accent for extra points. We’re eaten up with Packers fans, since Farve came from the Kiln. Even the local rabid Saints fans will root for Green Bay as long as they’re not playing the Saints.

    • Lazycrockett

      They are just getting your hopes up………………..

      • DaddyRay

        Hush

    • wayne

      I’m a Tigers fan, but I’ve been pulling for the Cubs all post season. My dad was a big fan and he would be so excited.

      • DaddyRay

        It is difficult not to root for the Cubbie to pull this off – it has been sooooo long since they won the World Series

        20 EVENTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED SINCE THE CHICAGO CUBS WON THEIR LAST WORLD SERIES

        Both radio and TV were invented

        Fourteen teams were added to Major League Baseball

        George Burns celebrated his 10th, 20th, 30th, 40th, 50th, 60th, 70th, 80th, 90th and 100th birthdays

        Haley’s comet passed Earth, twice

        Harry Caray was born, and died

        The NBA, NHL and NFL were formed, and Chicago teams won championships in each league

        The US fought in World War I, World War II, Korean War, Vietnam War, Persian Gulf War, Iraq War, Afghanistan War

        Man landed on the moon

        Sixteen US presidents were elected

        Eleven amendments added to the Constitution

        Prohibition was created and repealed

        The Titanic was built, set sail, sank, and was re discovered

        Wrigley Field was built and becomes the oldest park in the National League

        Flag poles were erected on Wrigley Field roof to hold all of the team’s future World Series pennants, which have since rusted and been taken down

        A combination of 40 Summer and Winter Olympics have been held

        Thirteen baseball players have won the Triple Crown

        Swing music, bell-bottoms, and disco came in style, went out of style and came back in style

        The Chicago White Sox, Cleveland Indians, Boston Red Sox and Florida Marlins have all won the World Series

        The Cubs played almost 15,000 regular-season games, losing the majority of them

        Alaska, Arizona, Hawaii, Oklahoma and New Mexico were admitted to the Union

        Source: http://www.chibarproject.com/Reviews/WrigleyField/TopTwenty.htm

        • johncAtl

          You missed one. The Atlanta Braves won the world series – versus Cleveland. Who would have ever thought the Braves would win?

          I’m hoping for a Cubs victory. Chicago is a great city with lots of great people, so go Cubs!

          • DaddyRay

            They also forgot we went from Stonewall Riots to Marriage Equality

          • johncAtl

            I spent four days in NYC in August and went into the Stonewall Inn for the first time. It was very cool to walk into a place that is such a significant part of gay history in the U.S.

    • MaryOGrady
  • Hína Kemenduro

    OK. So, how does this complaint prevent the goons from doing exactly what they intend to do? According to the complaint, Roger Stone did it before in New Jersey, and he is still out and about. Is this like one of those useless restraining orders… the bastard just comes and kills you anyways. What good is this? What protections will it put into motion?

    • bkmn

      That is why we need to get every last vote out for the Dems so we can pass a Voter Rights Act with real teeth. This crap has to stop.

    • leastyebejudged

      Not seeing how that would help their campaign, everyone has fone cams now most people can shoot vid and upload to social media instantly. I’ve got to believe there would be national outrage.

    • Stubenville

      Just another black eye for the GOP, potentially affecting anyone still undecided or waffling about voting for a Democrat.

    • canoebum

      It is much more than crazy Roger Stone. The candidate himself has repeatedly called for police and sheriffs, as well as other “concerned citizens”, to show up and watch for anything suspicious. This is a call for intimidation.

  • Sporkfighter
    • bkmn

      That is truly good humor and more evidence he is not a good businessman, is not smart, and has no idea of how things work. Anyone who invests in a Trump scam should not be surprised when they get screwed over. The same applies to people that invest in his properties. Being stupid is not a good reason to claim losses on your taxes.

      • William

        The owner should load up the page with hard core German dungeon porn.

        • MaryOGrady

          I think hentai might work too.

    • William

      That brightened my evening!

    • David Gervais

      And… TrumpTV.com goes somewhere entirely non-Trump. (loads slowly)

    • David Gervais

      And TrumpTV.com goes somewhere unTrumpian.

    • David Gervais

      And TrumpTV.com goes somewhere entirely unTrumpian.

      I’ve tried to load a screen cap of the site but I can’t get it to load.

  • thom

    At least 12.8 Million people have voted in the 2016 election as of 10/26 https://t.co/biXWYJXviS

  • Lazycrockett

    Well Lou is drowning in the Kool aid

    https://twitter.com/LouDobbs/status/790024160160411648

    • thom

      which Mafia is Dobbs most scared of? Mormon, Jewish or Gay?

    • bkmn

      I tweeted to Hannity that Dobbs was coming for his job. Am I evil? Please say yes.

      • Lazycrockett

        Everyone on Faux, except for Kelly, is sucking Drumpfs cock for a Drumpf TV hosting gig where they can spew the hate they oh so cock hard want to.

        • johncAtl

          I suspect Shepard Smith also passed on the micro penis. Twenty years as the prime time anchor at Fox has given him enough money that he and Melania can go to Starbucks while someone else is taking care of Donald.

    • Cuberly

      My guess is Evan McMormon…..wow….he went there.

      But Dobbs is a raging red-faced entitled white dude, is he catholic?

  • Lazycrockett
    • Falconlights

      YAY!!

  • And now, your moment of existential but slapstick terror. Yes, it begins.
    https://twitter.com/Brian_Ashcraft/status/791132389938458625

    • johncAtl

      “Hal, is that you?”

  • William

    The episode of Law and Order SVU originally scheduled for tonight has been pushed back a couple weeks. The plot involved a billionaire businessman with a penchant for groping and otherwise being inappropriate with women. The episode is now set to air after the election.

    https://www.moviefone.com/2016/10/25/gary-cole-trump-inspired-law-and-order-svu-episode-new-air-date/

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Life imitates art!

      • Hína Kemenduro

        Maybe not. The billionaire on L&O SVU might be innocent.

  • Lazycrockett
    • johncAtl

      Well damn… Hannity is right. I’ll never vote for Obama again. I wonder if there is an intelligent, proven white woman running for president that I can (cast an early) vote for.

  • SoCalGal20

    Good article on Trump’s really bad polling numbers in CA and how he’s really dragging down Republicans. Dems could win 4 House seats. Issa’s race and two others have been declared tossups and another race has been downgraded to “lean Republican”.

    http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/10/26/california-poll-trumps-numbers-dropping-into-uncharted-territory/

    • Lazycrockett

      There needs another October surprise.

      • DaddyRay

        And I hope it involves Issa

        • Lazycrockett

          538 is slowly creeping towards Drumpf not by a lot but even a slightly closing of the gap isn’t making me any happier.

          • DaddyRay

            I will not stop worrying until November 9th

          • Lumpy Gaga

            “Bush v. Gore” got nuthin’ on “Trump v. World”

          • johncAtl

            I won’t either. I just keep reminding myself that the Democrats start with some big electoral college advantages – California, New York, Massachusetts, Illinois. The Republicans always have to come from behind.

          • DaddyRay

            And with Trump pulling what he is they have far less funding than they expected

          • William

            Insert displeased Marge Simpson sound here.

    • JT

      It would be so good to see that smug liar Issa go down the drain with Drumpf.

  • kevin vincent

    Anyone hear about a New Zealand Hacker who apparantly found Clinton’s deleted emails and apparently sent them to Wikileaks?

    • johncAtl

      I can find Abraham Lincoln’s emails. He was worried about going to the Ford Theater but decided to go anyway.

      • kevin vincent

        What if it could be true? The Trumpers are angry because Wikileaks didn;t leak them today they are desperate and worried that they could be saving t for last

        • Bruno

          Hillary’s “deleted emails” were deleted over a long period of time and are not sitting in one place ready to be found. Stop fussing.

          • kevin vincent

            I’m not fussing… just worried Wikileaks could have something after all

          • Bruno

            Yes, you are. You fuss and kvetch and get all nervous every single time you post. You’re annoying. I’m blocking you until after the election is over.

          • kevin vincent

            I am not meaning to be annoying honestly

          • johncAtl

            Just remember…. If it’s digital and it’s on the Internet it can be manipulated.

          • kevin vincent

            true but kinda sad how Trumper’s are so desperate they are willing to use illegal means to try and bring Clinton down it scares me

          • William

            If you see any of Hillary’s emails that do not contain ‘be’ verbs, they are Kremlin rewrites.

          • houstonray

            Seriously don’t worry. Go to the guy’s Twitter account, he is a raving nut job who files all sorts of suits against the US government and then thinks foreign governments are hacking him and spying on him.

          • kevin vincent

            Alright.. *sigh* just paranoid

          • William

            The worst thing going on right now is Trump calling Obamacare a failure, at the same time insurance companies are raising the premiums by as much as 25%. That is not a coincidence. Insurance companies want to go back the the days of pre-existing conditions.

          • johncAtl

            And if Hillary wins, and the Democrats win control of the Senate, then Elizabeth Warren will be adding a lot of balls to her John Stumpf collection.

          • Me too.

          • Bruno

            I’m glad it wasn’t just me throwing a hissy. He really is getting annoying.

          • houstonray

            In excess of 25,000,000 votes have already been cast….they are a little late to the party.

            But thanks for playing!

          • kevin vincent

            Are you sure?

        • johncAtl

          How would you ever prove that they were real? You can’t.

          • kevin vincent

            given how stupid our electorate is… I mean we elected Bush twice… don’t think it would matter I know it is probably a bunch of nonsense but you can never be to cautious especally with this election

          • johncAtl

            You are right that we have a stupid electorate. But a “supposed” email versus an audio recording admitting to sexual assault? Voters aren’t that stupid.

          • kevin vincent

            wish I had your confidence esp if the emails do have something bad I don’t mean to be annoying but I feel like here is the only place whereI can talk about my worries and people get annoyed with me for bringing it up like with Bruno

          • johncAtl

            Don’t worry about Bruno. He’s a long time JMG commenter and is a good guy. And he said he’s only blocking you for the next two weeks – until the election is over.

            And I as said before… we’ll all be nervous until Hillary is declared the victor on 11/8. But she starts with a significant electoral vote advantage, and all indications are that she will be well over 300 votes. So, stay nervous but highly optimistic.

          • (((GC)))
          • MaryOGrady

            Once, tops. Maybe not even then.

          • canoebum

            Selected once, elected once.

      • Homo Erectus
      • Reality.Bites

        More proof he was gay.

    • houstonray

      A quick google search found the story on several right wing conspiracy sites. The guy is saying the NSA has them and then shows instructions on how to access them free and legally. First of all, assuming the NSA had a file folder with 33,000 of the most sought after emails in history, the FBI couldn’t find them but now anyone with the instructions can just log in to the NSA and access them is ludicrous.

      And the best part, they are in some spy cloud stored as a file called “clintonemails.com”.

      HAHAHA!!!!

      • Bruno

        This guy needs us to do his research for him, I guess. Or interpret the wingnut stratosphere to make him feel better about the election. Some people need to get out of their diapers and onto the potty.

      • William

        I have them all in a coffee can behind the TV.

    • The_Wretched

      Can he get on the missing 22 million from Bush the Lesser?

  • Lazycrockett
    • DaddyRay

      I think JMG readers could have provided twice the analysis for half the price

      • Treant

        “He bonkers” is free.

  • JCF
  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/10/megyn-kelly-newt-gingrich-women-sexual-assault/505466/?utm_source=yahoo&yptr=yahoo This is the type of article that makes me roll my eyes at the conservative women who found out that their pedestal they were promised was made out of poop.

    It really had to be this blatant with almost none of their pwecious men folk calling out Trump for his behavior towards women JUST LIKE THEM. It didn’t matter that minorities, women of color, women who were openly striving to break the glass ceiling and being open about feminism, LGBT, etc. were pointing out how the GOP had nothing to offer, it took being spit in the face before they got it. They’re just mad they got USED and didn’t get their promised slice.

    • Cackalaquiano

      It’s that typical lack of empathy for anything they don’t experience, until they experience it. How many are staunchly anti-LGBT – until their kid comes out to them?

  • TuuxKabin

    BREAKING NEWS: 5’40AM/EDST. A six alarm fire is burning at E. 93rd Street. Joe is somewhere in the E. 80’s IIRC. Just a heads up in case we don’t get a new thread from him. The fire could be impacting his neighborhood and internet service.

  • 3-Star

    “The decree came about in 1981” Will we ever be rid of the Reagan legacy?

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  • kaydenpat

    It’s about bleeding time. GOP intimidation tactics need to be stopped dead in their tracks. This is not the 1950s.

  • Skokieguy [Larry]

    On November 8th, I’m voting for Trump.On November 9th, if Trump loses, I’m grabbing my musket.You in? — Joe Walsh (@WalshFreedom) October 26, 2016

    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10/26/gop-congressman-full-trump-encourages-armed-revolt-clinton-wins.html

    • JT

      Homeland Security take note now.

    • The_Wretched

      Walsh is also a deadbeat dad and has other related defects of character.

  • Skokieguy [Larry]

    O/T: Republicans suggest letting the Supreme Court die out. These are the people who want to run our government? Are they a political party or an organized crime ring?

    Some conservatives certainly seem to be warming up to McCain’s controversial suggestion last week that Senate Republicans should dig in their heels and block any and all Supreme Court nominees put forth by a future President Hillary Clinton.

    Who needs a fully functioning Supreme Court after all?

    “As a matter of constitutional law, the Senate is fully within its powers to let the Supreme Court die out, literally,” wrote the Cato Institute’s Ilya Shapiro in a column Wednesday on The Federalist.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10/26/conservatives-plotting-block-clintons-scotus-picks-court-die-out.html

    • Sam_Handwich

      time to kill the filibuster

    • canoebum

      If the Democrats retake the Senate, on the first legislative day, the Senate sets the rules under which they operate for the Congressional Session. There rules are adopted by a simple majority vote. They could simply add a rule that ALL Presidential appointees must receive a hearing and a vote, no filibusters for nominees, no blocking at the committee level, no “blue slips”.

      • Skokieguy [Larry]

        I hope Obama, after the election will withdraw Garland to permit Clinton to pick her own. And I agree, its time for the Dems to get tough, no pretense of ‘trying to work across the aisle”.

        ALSO – since the Repubs are already planning years of investigations before Clinton is elected, I would like to see Obama pardon Hillary for any and all activities that are or may in the future be deemed to be criminal. This would be a fabulous final fuck you to the Republicans and potentially head off at least some investigations.

        • Reality.Bites

          It would also immediately convince the majority of Americans that she’s committed grave crimes. It would cripple her presidency.

          • Skokieguy [Larry]

            That’s a valid point, however the Republicans have already planned to cripple her presidency.

        • canoebum

          Since she did not commit any crime, there’s nothing to pardon.

        • IamM

          Working across the aisle is fine, trying to appease political terrorists like the Republicans by offering or accepting one-sided “compromises” & caving to unreasonable demands needs to end forever.

      • MaryOGrady

        I believe that is what is known as the nuclear option for the US Senate. Current Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid is reportedly laying the groundwork to do just that if we can win control of the Senate.

    • The_Wretched

      These people are disgusting. They are trying to transition the country to a christian dominionist theocracy (or monarchy).

      • William

        Any theocracy in this country would be quickly brought down by infighting amongst the various religious denominations and sects.

        • The_Wretched

          True enough but it would be hell to live through and undo all the progress we’ve had for women and minority groups of all kinds.

  • Sam_Handwich
  • JT

    OT

    New HIV Genetic Evidence Dispels “Patient Zero” Myth

    Genome analysis reveals that the AIDS-causing virus circulated in the U.S. as early as 1971

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-hiv-genetic-evidence-dispels-patient-zero-myth/

  • IamM

    Good job picking your standard bearer Rethuglicans. Really, excellent.