Trump Gets Booed At Catholic Gala [VIDEO]

ABC News reports:

Donald Trump was booed Thursday night at the annual Alfred E. Smith Dinner after delivering a series of jabs at his Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton, including trying to riff on a controversial remark he made at the latest presidential debate about her being a “nasty woman.” Clinton also didn’t play nice, however her jokes appeared to be more well-received by the crowd.

The dinner in New York, to benefit charity, is supposed to be a light-hearted roast where the presidential candidates take jabs at themselves and each other, but the event came just a day after the particularly nasty third presidential debate. During the debate, the candidates didn’t shake hands or acknowledge each other before or after the forum.

Trump, who spoke first, tried at first to keep things light-hearted, but quickly turned to harsh criticism about Clinton, who he described as “corrupt.” His remarks drew boos from the crowd, unprecedented for the event in the memories of observers.

“Hillary believes it’s vital to deceive the people by having one public policy. And a totally different policy in private. That’s okay,” he said, to boos from the crowd. “I don’t know who they’re angry at, Hillary, you or I? For example, here she is tonight in public, pretending the not to hate Catholics.”

“Now, if some of you haven’t noticed, Hillary isn’t laughing as much as the rest of us. That’s because she knows the jokes and all of the jokes were given to her in advance of the dinner by Donna Brazile,” he added.

The first two clips below are Trump’s and Hillary’s speeches. The third clip is the full event as live-streamed by the New York Times.

  • lymis

    Watching it, you could tell he never had the crowd, but he lost them completely when it dropped the line about Hillary pretending not to hate Catholics. After that, he thought he was doing great, but the crowd shut down – until they started booing.

  • For context’s sake, this kind of booing *never* happens at this particular event.

    On an unrelated note, the host was Timothy Dolan, because of course it was.

  • Charlie 2001

    Donald Trump doesn’t like to be the target of humor. Look again at how he reacted to Barack Obama roasting him at the National Press Club Dinner.

    • Raising_Rlyeh

      Didn’t Seth Meyers say at Trump’s roast that his supposed wealth was off the table to mock?

    • That was the moment when he decided to run. For spite.

    • Dramphooey

      He might have some competition in Rudy Giuliani.

  • Michael R
    • Micah Spiese

      Sophia Loren level side eye.

    • Ernest Endevor

      Hilarious. The ‘Bitch, please’ face.

    • vorpal

      Honestly, the fact that Hillary hasn’t sprained her eyes from being unable to resist rolling them so much at the Drumpf’s stupidity in and of itself shows her amazing skill at diplomacy.

      • Gaiboi66

        You aint’ never lied!

    • Gaiboi66

      Simply fabulous!

    • The_Wretched

      I’m still loving that suit. Kudos to her handlers. It’s striking to me how much her wardrobe has been spot on whereas Gore’s was a mess.

      • JCF

        Nehru Jacket Realness!

  • Porkie

    Timmy Dolan has at last found someone who makes him look like a warm and empathetic human being in comparison – that’s a major PR win for the archdiocese of New York.

    • TJay229

      Hey sexy! 😍

      • Porkie

        🙂 hi to you too….have a great Weekend! hugs

    • Jeffrey

      I cringe when I see any politician near Dolan. I know this is for charity and it is a tradition, but Dolan makes my skin crawl. He is chaild-rape enabling dress wearing fascist.

      • Porkie

        Amen!

      • The_Wretched

        I thought his red and black ensemble gilded with bling was total attention whore. He made the proceedings about the future US President being dominated by him. Even if on that basis alone, this is one stop that the next election should skip. (guests shouldn’t attend when a host is being shitty)

      • Goodboy

        or being called “your eminence” I’m sure the little shithead fascist loves that.

    • <3 Scary times! With EXCELLENT coverage by Joe!

  • Oikos

    I can’t wait until I don’t have to see or hear this orange shitgibbon anymore.

    • Mark

      Still means we have to get out the vote – Dems are notorious for getting complacent.

    • vorpal

      LOL good luck with that: we’re still having to listen to the word-salad lady from 2008, and Mrs. Ladybird still graces us with a fresh batch of stupid every now and then.

      I suspect we’ll still be hearing from shitgibbon and the rabid badger nesting on his head for years to come.

    • Uncle Mark

      I want to see the angry orange shitshow just long enough to watch him lose the election, meltdown, then dragged into court over the rape case & Trump U, and lastly taken out by agents of the Russian oligarchs that Trump cannot afford to pay back

    • Chucktech

      Sorry, but we’re going to hear from him until he’s perp-walked into prison. Once this calamitous election is over, I’m hoping that won’t take too much longer.

  • Butch

    Somebody please tell me what idiot decided it was a good idea to put the two of them on stage together like this.

    • Oikos

      It is how this event is always hosted.

      • bill weber

        It’s called kissing the ring.

        Where’s **** when you really need ’em? (Use capital letters.)

      • Butch

        I get that it’s a tradition but isn’t it possible to look at a specific situation and think “not a good idea?”

        • Oikos

          I still think that many can’t wrap their heads around trump being such a miserable asshole. They just assume (wrongly) that he will have some modicum of decency.

    • Michael R
  • JuanGalicia

    The part that made me laugh the most once Hillary did her part was when she made fun of Ted Cruz <3

    • Dramphooey

      Actually, Trump had one good joke: the one about his wife and Michele Obama’s speeches.

      • JuanGalicia

        Oh he did have good jokes at the start which surprised me but boy did it go downhill fast

        • Hunter M

          Sort of like his life.

      • Fyva Prold

        The joke was plagiarized, too.

  • avidreader

    I can’t wait until the RCC loses so much influence in the US that tese galas stop being attended by the candidates.

    • Gay Fordham Prep Grad

      It’s free publicity, so don’t get caught standing between the pol and the camera.

    • JCF

      Well, contrary to Drumpf’s claims, Clinton loves both her Catholic friends, and her TENS of MILLIONS of Catholic supporters! Ergo, I don’t see this happening very soon.

      But! I look forward to when the Al Smith family views hierarchs such as Timothy Dolan too toxic to have such a prominent place.

  • Raising_Rlyeh

    Is there some scientific reason conservatives are not funny? I’m not aware of any processional comedian who is conservative or at least openly conservative.

    Really though, Clinton clearly had the better writers. I really couldn’t believe trump’s nerve at suggesting she hates catholics.

    • Porkie

      “…not deliberately funny…..”

      • Raising_Rlyeh

        Yeah, and when they try to be funny they are usually just racist as waters recently showed.

    • Michael R

      The have an US VS THEM mentality , it’s where there sense of self comes from , someone has to be the enemy .

    • stanhope

      Doll it is a challenge being funny with a stick up your ass.

      • SockMikey

        Hey, one could look kinda funny if the stick up their ass was attached to a Popsicle.. 🙂

    • Ernest Endevor

      I think it’s because they cling too hard to certainty. They won’t challenge authority but celebrate it. This provokes outbursts of nastiness against anyone they consider a challenge to what they imagine the status quo to be. Danny Kay was a conformist clown, which is why he’s so agonizing to watch.

      • medaka

        Conservatives don’t do irony, only slapstick.

        • Bob Conti

          He needed a banana to step and slip on. Or a pie in the face.

          • Uncle Mark

            No worries…Trump is going to get an ample serving of humble pie in. November

          • Bob Conti

            With a side of crow.

          • Miji

            That would be AMAZING, a pie in the face just like Anita Bryant. Can you imagine the meltdown? And I bet banana cream would destroy that harigami craziness.

          • JCF

            Um, that’s very dangerous these days—to the pie thrower. Sacramento’s Mayor Kevin Johnson recently got pie’d, and he (and his bodyguards) beat the thrower (anti-homelessness activist) to a pulp.

      • SockMikey

        I think it also might have to do with “Templates” utilized during developmental years (Religion, etc…) and an inability to sometimes think outside of the box.

        The best humor to me has layers, such as the Statue of Liberty physically resembling a “4” and Donald’s approach to women.

      • Librarykid

        Danny Kaye was a very troubled, closeted individual.

      • David Walker

        That and he knew he’d have to go home to Sylvia every night. That could do some psychological damage, too.

    • JustDucky

      A while back, The Atlantic published “a unified theory of why political satire is biased toward, and talk radio is biased against, liberals in America.” It’s a good read. Here’s an excerpt:

      “The 1/2 Hour News Hour [was] the first major attempt to create a conservative counterpart to The Daily Show in 2007. It was cancelled after just 13 episodes and has remained the worst-rated show of all time on Metacritic. It was widely panned by critics who complained that it was trying to be political first and funny second, so the jokes were unsurprising and flat.”

      https://www.google.com/amp/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/385480/?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us

      • cleos_mom

        Wow. Worse ratings than Cop Rock? Maybe CR’s unintentional comedy was the reason.

      • BobSF_94117

        With talk radio, you only hear. You don’t see the expressions, the gestures. In full experience mode, conservative “satire” is an ugly thing.

    • j.martindale

      Like Kaine?

      • TampaDink

        Nothing depicts a candidates hatred for catholicism quite like choosing a catholic as her running mate.

    • rusty57

      Without empathy and self awareness one can’t understand the complexities and contradictions of human nature. Humor and wit play on those complexities and contradictions.
      Is there any one more lacking in self awareness and empathy than the Modern American Conservative?
      Unless, of course, one counts the Modern American Conservative Christian.

    • medaka

      BeccaM had a great analysis of the whole thing at the end of last night’s long thread. (Now I have to go and find it…. 🙂

    • SockMikey

      Immediately, your post made me think of Ann Coulter.

    • Reality.Bites
    • vorpal

      I always suspected that it was because they take everything so incredibly seriously, and in order to be humorous, you have to be able to make light of tragedy / hardship or at least find the amusement in it. They are always outraged, which makes any attempts at humour just mean-spirited (which makes most people feel uncomfortable or similarly outraged) instead of light-hearted or self-deprecating.

      I’ve always thought that conservative humour generally amounted to trying to decide whether to use “libtard” or “libturd.” That kind of pressure and choice must be mentally paralyzing.

      • dr morbius

        yeah Clintonistas don’t take anything incredibly seriously :p

        • vorpal

          I take things seriously when it matters to do so, like at the voting booth, but that being said, there is nothing that cannot be joked about. I would rather have a life filled with fun and happiness than largely impotent serious outrage.

      • JCF

        It’s because they’re so AFRAID: that’s what blocks seeing the irony in life. The only kind of “humor” they can do, is Punch Down (attacking the vulnerable). See re

        http://presentationsunplugged.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/69AjKj.gif

    • Librarykid

      Well, there is Jackie Mason.

      • Rob NYNY

        Yeah, the first Broadway show I ever walked out of was his one-man show. Lots of cutting-edge humor about NYC taxi drivers wearing turbans and having body odor.

    • sherman

      They are mean and hateful. That doesn’t translate to humor.

    • Adam Schmidt

      Republicans suck at humor… they just go mean. Look at the political humorists and they’re virtually all progressives (Stephen Colbert, John Oliver, Larry Wilmore, Samantha Bee, John Stewart, Jimmy Fallon, Seth Meyers, Trevor Noah, Bill Maher, and so on…). I think it’s because humor is ultimately an empathetic device and Republicans suck at empathy… their world view is much more about us vs. them.

      • Paula

        That’s because it’s takes higher intelligence to make people laugh with you and not at you. Let’s not talk about Pauly Shore, Adam Sandler or Carrottop. Not funny.

        • DonnaLee

          Shore and Sandler get scripts which are funny, I fail to see how they themselves are funny.

    • Ore Carmi

      She was also clearly the better sport. She laughed at all those unfair jokes about her with no problem, but Donald and Melania had a more difficult time.

    • The_Wretched

      I suspect strongly that conservatives don’t have the right mental paths for humor. At it’s core, humor touches on emotion and relies on understanding and sharing an emotion. Conservatives don’t really do empathy – they do hierarchy enforced by duty and fear type notions. This is why so much of their ‘comedy’ is beating down on the little guy who deviates from their preferred order. The rest of us don’t find that funny, we find it shitty.

    • Friday

      Basically humor requires holding two points of view at once; conservatives either can’t do that or refuse to, otherwise, they won’t be conservatives. That’s why ‘Compassionate conservative’ is a psychological double-bind.

    • RoFaWh

      My guess? They take things too seriously.

    • clay

      As others, here, have said, it’s about empathy.

      But it’s also about honesty, honesty about one’s self and one’s surroundings, and the GOP doesn’t have a good track record for that– too busy trying to be something, somewhere, else.

  • Dramphooey

    If there is one thing I know about Donald Trump it is that he has always wanted to part of the New York high society. I don’t think he actually wants to be President–he certainly doesn’t want the job of it. He has thrown away everything he ever wanted for what he doesn’t want.

    • RoFaWh

      Somewhere I read that his parents, though they too were desperate to enter the ranks of NYC society, were also soundly rebuffed.

    • Chucktech

      Got to admit, though, President of the United States looks pretty good on your curriculum vitae.

  • stanhope

    The real ‘nasty woman’ is that mde pompadour, cardinal dolan. What a toilet paper stain.

  • KCMC
  • TheSeer

    Her jokes were excellent!
    “We have some wonderful elected officials in New York. And we have Rudy Guliani.”

    • Piernudo15

      The look on his face after she said that was priceless. What a sourpuss!

      • Bob Conti

        That look was so sour that it curdled the milk in the fridge.

        • Piernudo15

          Hahaha. “America’s Mayor” has become a deplorable, bitter liar. Slightly OT: i hated when after the 9/11 attacks, people started referring to the NY Yankees as “America’s Team.” They weren’t/aren’t my team. Im from Tucson, so when the Arizona Diamonbacks beat the Yankees in the World Series in 2001, I was elated and felt no sympathy for them!

          • Cherry

            At the time of 9/11 and the World Series, I used to play online trivia. One of the players claimed to be from the NYC area and she wanted the NY Yankees to be all but handed the World Series on a platter, because it would be good for morale.

          • Bob Conti

            Who came up with that meme in the first place. He was never America’s Mayor in my book (or anybody else’s outside of NYC, and query how loved he was there…).

    • Ross

      I snorted out my wine at that one!

    • Uncle Mark

      And there was that other line…basically calling him failure & a sell-out. I bet that felt good being at an event where Hillary was free to shoot back at that opportunistic crap-slinger, especially in front of the New York elite, as well as having the event recorded for the rest of the country. It must have felt as good for her as it felt for Obama at the Press Corps Dinner, when he was able to hit Trump with a barrage of his own, after Trump’s ongoing birther slander.

  • rusty57

    “But Donald really is as healthy as a horse, you know the one Vladimir Putin rides around on.”
    I fucking died.

    • KCMC

      one in red behind her about coughed off an earring at that.

      • bkmn

        That’s Maria Bartoromo.

        • KCMC

          She’s fabulous.

          • Rod Steely

            Maria was dressed to the NINES with the gloves the red dress and the earrings- it said CAMERA READY!

        • JCF

          Falling out of her dress—I was distracted in the EXTREME! 😎

    • Reality.Bites

      She has got some ace writers working for her. And her delivery, for a non-stand-up, was incredible. People have been given late night talk shows who can’t deliver a monologue like she can.

    • The_Wretched

      She’s following Obama’s lead. It’s great!

  • greenmanTN

    The past 2 weeks have been such a banquet of schadenfreude that I’m going to need a doggy bag!

  • ceeenbee

    The scary thing about this is the total lack of self-awareness on trump’s part and his complete separation from reality. He actually believes the people must be booing HRC and not himself. Yet, republican leadership still wants he American people to give him launch codes.

    It is time to send a message to the republicans that we will not stand for your divisiveness any longer.

  • LackofFaithify
    • kelven

      I laughed because this is probably little Donnie’s nightmare right before he wakes up and realizes the nightmare is real!

    • Blake Mason

      Such a great analogy. Though I suspect this will be post Nov 8.

  • Homo Erectus

    Hillary “I’d like to hear Michael Bloomberg speak – it would be interesting to hear what a billionaire thinks”. Sunap!

  • Michael R
    • Fyva Prold

      What’s this?

      • Bryan

        The amazing Paul Rubens from a very silly episode of 30 Rock.

  • Gigi

    The words “Catholic gala” tell you everything you need to know about the RCC.

  • Blake Mason

    It warms my heart to think a black man, and a woman, will have defeated every white man that the republicans have put forward for the presidency since 2008.

    • JCF

      <3<3<3

  • marshlc

    Maybe I’m just too earnest and humourless, but really? This is a good idea?

    I can’t sit and chuckle over the humour of someone whose policies would ruin my life and the lives of people I love. Politics is not a “heh heh, we’re all good friends behind the scenes” game, but life and death. For a lot of people.

    It’s important in a civil society to be able to be civil to your political enemies, but sitting around throwing cute little barbs at each other is not my idea of a good time. Almost impossible, I’d also think, to know where to draw the line. Is it OK to joke that your opponent doesn’t pay his taxes, but not OK to joke that he’s a seditious enemy to democracy who is inciting rebellion? They’re different in scale, but on the same continuum, IMO.

    I’ve never seen the point of roast-type events, and the timing of this one is to my mind appalling.

    • greenmanTN

      It is kind of like playing patty-cake in the middle of a fist fight, but under the guise of cute little barbs both of them were throwing grenades.

      I can actually imagine this as a set piece in a movie, two people who absolutely hate each other having to “play nice,” yet also do some damage to the other.

      I suggest Helen Mirren as Hillary.

      But who would play Donald?

      • TuuxKabin

        A heavier set Nicholas Cage?

      • KentDean

        Alec Baldwin, of course.

        • greenmanTN

          Oh yeah, him! His Trump impression is pretty great. I loved it when he was stalking around Hillary like a shark in the spoof of the 2nd debate.

          All it needed was the Jaws music.

    • cleos_mom

      IMO the timing was one of the best things about it.

    • BobSF_94117

      Back when these things were private, I think they helped reduce the antagonism and vitriol. Now, open to the world, they make it worse.

  • greenmanTN

    Hillary really went for the jugular a few times.

    WTF is up with Trump’s skin tone? Is he about to have a stroke or trying to be the mullatto Ivanka has been wishing for?

  • SockMikey

    Arguably Donald’s best joke was at the expense of Melania.

    For a second I actually felt sorry for her, but only a second.

  • cleos_mom

    Clinton also didn’t play nice, however her jokes appeared to be more well-received by the crowd.

    Interesting development considering EWTN’s hysteria over the last 36 hours or so concerning “Hillary’s: “pro-death” pronouncements. Guess not everyone reacted as instructed.

    • Statistics Palin

      How long has Mother Angelica been Satan’s fag hag?

      • cleos_mom

        A classic sugar bitch. Suzanne Sugarbaker could have spotted her a mile away.

    • JCF

      Guess I should have figured that’s where EWTN’s collective Popoid head is at. Nevermind the threat to our democracy—“Oh noes, fetuses!!1!1!”*

      * To be clear: irreparably damaged/dying and/or fatal fetuses, if we’re talking about (So Very Rare) late-term abortion.

  • lattebud

    On a side note, Hillary looked great in that hot pink suit. It made her look much more vibrant and youthful.

    • cleos_mom

      Yeah, that’s a great color for her. Liked that necklace too.

    • djcoastermark

      She did seem to shine last night and have a different (good) energy.

      • joeyj1220

        yes… because she knows she’s going to win the election

    • The_Wretched

      I liked the off-white President of the Future suit she had on Wed.

    • JCF

      Hot pink dress—yup, it was a floor-length gown.

  • Chris Davis

    Ironically, Trump (or whoever wrote his “jokes” for him for this dinner) plagiarized his joke about Melania’s plagiarism from this editorial cartoon of July 19, 2016 from ROLL CALL.https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a3a96cb58f56914b82cf240ee369d18d54b53db989b920af1ac648560108e5fb.jpg

    • Brian in Valdosta

      Is that irony? Is that … I don’t know what that is. Trying to “get away with it?” It’s oh-so-trumpian.

    • prixator

      I love how the arm candy changes neither position nor expression. Probably written into her contract.

  • TJay229

    She outclassed him on every level.

    • MonochromeMouse

      she always does, at this point Hillary could have a full on screaming naked in the street masturbating at cars mental breakdown and she would still be more classy and presidential than trump

      • Librarykid

        What a word picture you have given us!

        • MonochromeMouse

          here, have a non-mental image
          not hillary but same situation with the guy from the Kony2012 video

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGiR2TmeNYc
          it’s censored and blurred, but he is nude and swearing so MSFW

      • The_Wretched

        I want to see this.

  • SoCalVet

    I watched it…Donald overplayed his hand of insults and left the audience with their mouths hanging open at his humorless campaigning.

    • RoFaWh

      He is a fascist. His lack of a sense of humor is to be expected.

  • bkmn

    How much more image bashing will Trump do to himself?

    • TampaDink

      None. He is incapable.

  • Ross

    Tee-hee.

    Found this article about the last debate:

    The very best meme of the night came from St. Louis mayoral candidate Antonio French (D), who tweeted that, “Trump’s foreign policy answers sound like a book report from a teenager who hasn’t read the book. ‘Oh, the grapes! They had so much wrath!'” This promptly led to thousands of #TrumpBookReports, like these:

    Those poor heights. They were wuthering. Wuthering so bad. Bigly wuthering. I’ll make them great again.

    Charlotte’s Web…Spider dies at the end…no stamina. What a loser.

    Uncle Tom’s Cabin, worst cabin in the inner city.

    It took Low Energy Harry Potter 7 books to defeat Voldermort. Sad! I would have beat him in the first book!

    We’re gonna catch so much rye, you won’t believe it. We’re bringing those rye catching jobs to America.

    Juliet. Such a nasty woman. She made Romeo kill himself. And believe me he could have done better. Look at her.

    There is a very good article attached.

    http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2016/Pres/Maps/Oct21.html#item-2

    • greenmanTN

      LOL! I hope that #trumpbookreports keeps rolling and there are lots lots more.

      • Friday

        Why didn’t they “Dial M for Benghazi? Liberal media!”

  • MrSkippy

    She showed her class.
    He showed his crass.

    • Randy503

      One is a pro, the other an amateur, at best.

      • RoFaWh

        Drumpf isn’t even a dilettante.

  • Ross

    Good article on Electoral-vote.com:

    Why Clinton Went for the Kill

    “Almost everyone was expecting Hillary Clinton to be cautious on Wednesday and avoid any chance of making a mistake. They were wrong. She was very aggressive and tried to finish Trump off. She may have succeeded. She went after Trump time and time again, ridiculing him for exporting jobs, using Chinese steel in his buildings, and insulting women. This was definitely not playing it safe.

    Her constant attacking was part of a clear plan to not only win, but win big, especially in Arizona and Georgia, and maybe even in Utah (although Evan McMullin could win that one). She is now focused on getting a huge victory, first to rebut any cries of a “rigged” election, second to be able to claim a mandate for her program, and third to have coattails pulling in down-ticket Democrats.

    Part of her strategy was to get inside Trump’s head and trigger him into Trump v1.0 mode—angry and shooting from the hip. She said he “choked,” he is Putin’s “puppet,” that he was too scared to even bring up the wall issue when he was in Mexico, and that he whines. He took the bait every time and acted in a way that moderates and undecided voters are not likely to see as presidential.

    Finally, she tried to cast off the image of herself as a boring politician. She clearly went for the jugular over and over and cut it on every try. There was blood on the stage for all to see. We saw a side of her that hasn’t been on display before.”

    [Me: Thank you, Madame President.]

    • The_Wretched

      Going aggressive was exactly the right approach to the 3rd (Faux News) debate).

    • JCF

      Nitpick: only in France (or Montreal), should she be addressed “Madame” President. Here, it’s just “Madam President”.

  • Slippy_World
    • Ray Taylor

      Sure does. What can he be plotting now?

      • Friday

        Groping people while they ain’t looking. Or worried about Dolan thinking the same thing. 🙂

      • TampaDink

        He was plotting his tweet storm which he was looking forward to starting as soon as Mel went to bed…..if she was of the mind to stop screaming at him for using her as the punchline to what was as close as he come get towards self-deprecating humor.

    • The_Wretched

      Nope, I’m with Trump on this one. Public officials should not bow their heads and pray to any god. They serve the people.

      • Friday

        Yeah, but he isn’t one and ain’t gonna be. 🙂

      • Chucktech

        Not even at a Catholic soiree?

        • The_Wretched

          Especially then. The office of the US presidency rates higher than the RCC. The respect is from showing up, not from bowing down.

          • Chucktech

            Yeah, I hear you. I personally would not bow MY head, but Hillary actually may be religious to some degree AND, if she didn’t, you can imagine the BS she’d have to suffer through, so it doesn’t surprise me.

          • david fairfield

            I agree. When they respect me as an equal human being, I’ll bow my head out of respect for their belief. But as long as they demean the lgbt community, which is what they do more than practically anything else, then as far as I’m concerned they can go fuck themselves.

      • David Gervais

        My first reaction was to agree with you, however, I remembered that when you are invited to someone’s house for dinner, if they say grace before meals, you are the guest and are polite about it.

        • The_Wretched

          I don’t. They can say grace and I can sit politely. No one has the right to my acquiescence or participation in their religious rituals. I would feel weird to demand people follow my personal or family or friendly rituals.

          • Herald

            I understand what you are saying. However, trump is not standing politely, a look at his face tells you that.

          • David Gervais

            That’s what usually do.

      • JCF

        I don’t see bowing the head as necessarily “praying to any god”. First and foremost, it’s about collecting your thoughts. Removing distractions. Then you can focus on, oh say, “serving the people”.

        • The_Wretched

          Um, context. If a prayer is being lead and you go all head bowey, it’s assumed you’re down with it.

          • JCF

            I just disagree. Assume politeness (as was said), perhaps assume reflection (reflecting on meal, those who provided/prepared it, reflecting on the company of those you’re with). But certainly not assume any common cosmology. At least, I wouldn’t.

    • JCF

      Melania’s prayer: “May my boyfriend not be discovered until I’ve found a way to break that #$%^$# pre-nup!”

    • cleos_mom

      Donnie’s mom never used that “eyes in the back of my head” line at the dinner table.

  • James

    Hillary slayed (is that why they call her Killary?), but the entire exercise–Hillary having to sit practically right next to that slimebag; Trump joking about the beyond the pale remarks he’s made–was creepy.

    • Librarykid

      She was sitting exactly next to a slimebag; it’s just that there were two of them to her left: Predator 1 and Predator 2.

  • Hank

    Hillary… and her writers…. killed the room!!!
    “Your eminence, you do deserves great credit for binging together 2 people who have been at each others throats….. Mortal Enemies….. Bitter Foes…. I’ve gotta ask, How did you get the Governor and the Mayor together???

    There are a lot of people, that I know and, that I have been privileged to work with…. I just want to put you in a Basket of ADORABLES!!

  • Natty Enquirer

    Hillary’s jokes were pretty sharp, but she also put herself down, which is proper form for this venue. The closest Trump got was cracking a joke at his wife’s expense.

    • JCF

      So very telling.

  • DH Esq

    Trump discovered that society scorns the hateful rhetoric that his rally attendees cheer. He just became uninvited to any NYC social event.

    • Librarykid

      He can commiserate with the wife of North Carolina’s governor. Misery loves company, they say.

  • Acronym Jim

    “Clinton also didn’t play nice, however her jokes appeared to be more well-received by the crowd.”

    That probably had something to do with the fact that she was actually telling jokes.

  • Cherry

    Is a Bill Donahue invited to this shindig?

    • Chucktech

      Not on the dais, I would hope… Somewhere down on the floor, probably.

      • The_Wretched

        In a gimp suit
        in a room down low
        where the toilets empty
        on their way to the waste treatment plant
        still too good for him

        (yes I know i’m breaking my usual personal comment rules but Donahue is in special class of horrible people)

  • The_Wretched

    Look at cardinal Dolan taking the seat of honor between Clinton and Trump. Nice humility there.

    • Herald

      True, but maybe he was also trying to separate them.

      • The_Wretched

        Dolan is an utter asshole who hid child abusers and funds from victims. That shows he’s mendacious. I’m not giving him the benefit of any doubts. Were that the goal, they could have been 2, 3 or more seats apart.

  • GanymedeRenard

    Donald Trump is a joke in himself.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Once again, the contrast is clear. Trump was a dumpster fire and Hillary was the extinguisher. He was booed and hissed at, literally hissed at. Hillary remained above it all, even if only for appearances sake; which proves she’s the one with the temperament to deal with shits like Trumplethinskin.

  • Watching it on MSNBC last night, I thought that Donnie mostly performed better than the very low expectations I had of him, though when he did go low, he was awful. I think the “Pardon me” was not bad, and neither was the one about Donna Brazile giving her the jokes, but his best was the one about the Michelle Obama/Melania speech thing. That may have been his best moment of the campaign. However, he went full deplorable for a few minutes, sadly – if he managed to get what Al Franken would call some “joke work” into it, even the more pointed barbs could have been excused, but he forgot that part.

    Hillary had a few good jibes boith opf the self-deprecatory and Donnie-deprecatory type., and while she also did a little of the “go low” thing,even her “Statue of Liberty” jibe was in bounds (about on the level of the Donna Brazile item from Trump).

  • Herald

    The host of the dinner Alfred E. Smith V had some harsh words for trump afterwards. I loved that the crowd booed trump.

    “Donald had some very solid minutes early on and eventually he crossed the line and took it a little too far,” Smith said. “Hillary, on the other hand, was able to laugh at herself and at the same time not underplay any of the serious things that Donald Trump has said or done.” …

    Apparently, the joke did even worse than appearances would suggest, however. Smith argued that Trump, who spoke first, managed to diminish Clinton’s performance by taking “the tone in another direction.”

    “Hillary when ultimately she got the mic, she had some very funny things that she had said, and I don’t think they got as many laughs as they could have just because the tone in the room had shifted a bit,” Smith suggested.

    “The room did get a little uncomfortable,” Smith concluded. “Like I said, that line, in a room full of predominantly Catholics, that didn’t go over so well.”
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/charity-host-trump-crossed-the-line_us_580a189ce4b000d0b156069e?section=