New HRC Ad Lauds Hillary On LGBT Rights [VIDEO]

Just in from the Human Rights Campaign:

“Time and again Hillary Clinton has demonstrated through her words and actions that she is committed to fighting for full LGBTQ equality,” said HRC President Chad Griffin. “All of the progress we’ve achieved is at stake in this election. While Donald Trump continues his hate-filled campaign and threatens to drag us backwards, Hillary Clinton will fight to break down the walls of discrimination that still hold us back. It’s crucially important that pro-equality Americans turn out and vote for Hillary Clinton as the next President of the United States.”

In the video, Hillary says, “We need to build an America where no one has to worry that they can get married on Saturday and be fired on Monday; where kids aren’t bullied just because of who they are; and where every American has the chance to live up to his or her God-given potential, no matter who they are or who they love.”

  • LackofFaithify

    AHHHH! Black, gay, lesbians! Hillary must be stopped, or the Republic shall fall!

  • bkmn

    Tony Duggar PerKKKins is going to love this!

  • Do Something Nice

    This is probably a waste of time and money by HRC. For quite some time, it has been clear that Clinton is going to win, and for even a longer time, it has been clear that Clinton has at least 80% of the LGBT vote, so it would have been better for HRC to focus upon issues or state elections.

    This seems more like an effort to claim that they helped to elect Clinton than anything else.

    • Randy Left Brooklyn

      They should not call them ads when they won’t have a paid placement anywhere. These will be shown on friendly sites like jmg and nowhere else.

  • bobbyjoe

    I’m all for Clinton, and it’s crucial that she win, but I’m also not going to pretend that she’s been great in her career on LGBT issues. Like Obama, she’s improved substantially, but she sure was late to the party.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/hillary-clinton-had-the-chance-to-make-gay-rights-history-she-refused/2016/08/28/843a5cfc-58cf-11e6-9767-f6c947fd0cb8_story.html

    • hahvM

      Progress is complicated and sometimes you’ve got to balance getting your place at the table rather than policy purity.

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        Exactly. And isn’t it funny how, out of all the politicians who evolved, either late to the party or not, it’s the one woman out of all the men who’s singled out. I’m sorry, but the not-so-subtle misogynist bent among many gay men on this matter is disgustingly obvious.

        • bobbyjoe

          Really? Because I’ve sure seen a lot of gay men who were critical of Obama for dragging his feet on LGBT rights for such a long time, and on the subject of Democrats who should have been better friends when it really counted, it’s Bill Clinton who’s probably taken the most criticism by gay men (and the rest of the LGBT community), and rightly so, for signing DOMA.

          To try and suggest that Hillary’s the first one to be supposedly “singled out” for such criticism– and particularly that it’s “misogyny”– strikes me as entirely false, and really offensive to play it like it’s a vile, stereotyped “some gay men hate women” thing.

          • Jean-Marc in Canada

            Yes, really!

            And please, don’t insult my intelligence by trying to compare the two. Obama was rightly taken to task, but the length, breadth and depth of the condemnations pale to what Hillary has had to put up with. Even now, after evolving like everyone else, she still seems to be the only one still being held to account…..so again, YES, REALLY!

            And no, I’m not using a stereotype of “some gay men hating women” because, sadly, it’s not just LGBT’s who do this. Even the vapid republicans, playing the duplicitous game of false equivalence, trot out this long since dealt with trope as a distraction.

            One final note, I said it had a misogynist bent, which, frankly, it does; that you don’t like that particularly painful truth is irrelevant.

          • bobbyjoe

            So you now say you’re not just “using a stereotype of ‘some gay men hating women'” when you specifically said in your post “the not-so-subtle misogynist bent among many gay men.” Yeah, sure. Got it.

            Also, could someone please provide evidence other than just having some “strong feeling” or something that more people have criticized Hillary Clinton over LGBT issues than have criticized Bill Clinton over his actions like DOMA. Talk about rewriting history– that’s just total baloney. And Obama did indeed take a lot of similar criticisms when he was running, for his “one man, one woman” stance on marriage, and those criticisms extended into his first administration, when his DoJ was doing things like continuing to defend DOMA (To his credit, Obama’s administration was much more active on LGBT rights in his second term). To pretend that Hillary is somehow being “singled out” on this is patently false.

            Like I said in my first post, both Obama and Hillary Clinton have gotten a lot better in the last few years on LGBT rights issues. And I’ve strongly supported both of them. But politicians aren’t gods, and it’s always been a necessity for the LGBT community to be realistic about the records of even those we actually like, so we don’t just sit back and say “oh let’s see when they’ll deign to actually do something to help us.”

            In 2008, for example– the year that Proposition 8 passed– anti-same-sex marriage initiatives were being actively pushed all over the country– these had serious effects not just on LGBT couples, but on the hateful rhetoric that was being so prominently– and very publicly– aimed at our community during that election. Both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, while supporting civil unions at that time, chose to say they were opposed to same-sex marriage, and both went around making statements saying marriage should be reserved for “one man and one woman.” Was this as awful as those who were rabidly calling out to ban same-sex marriage? No, certainly not. But it sure helped give cover to otherwise good people who just stood back and did nothing. It was cowardice under the guise of political expedience, the same way Bill Clinton signed DOMA when, as most experts agree, vetoing it wouldn’t have prevented Bill from easily coasting past Bob Dole to win the presidency.

            There’s no discrepancy between saying that Hillary should– and must– win this election, while still acknowledging that its ridiculous to try and whitewash her history and pretend she’s always been a saint on LGBT issues. It’s going to be particularly important to keep that in mind once she’s (hopefully) elected (like genuine activists did with Obama), so that we don’t just become HRC cocktail party enablers who revise history to make anyone we support seem pure as the driven snow. That’s a good way to get people to come to your festive event, but a terrible way to try and get actual progress.

          • Jean-Marc in Canada

            Well now, do you feel better? Got that all off your chest? Good. Now we can move on.

          • bobbyjoe

            Yeah, let’s move on. Just try and avoid those “gay men as misogynist” slurs, though, since what you did was exactly like guys who don’t like something a lesbian says and tries to turn it into a totally bigoted “oh, you’re one of those lesbians who hate men” thing. It’s a really bad way to debate, much more like Trump than Hillary.

          • Jean-Marc in Canada

            Of course I’m moving on. You’re rehashing and prosecuting a case that was dealt with already. You want to re-litigate? Go for it, I’m too busy moving forward. By the way, if anyone’s like Trump, it’s you. You lied. I never, ever stated or implied that “gay men as misogynist”, that was just your special snowflake gene kicking in to feel offended; what I said was is there is a not-so-subtle misogyny among many gay men. It didn’t say all or most, I said many. But by all means, do conflate if it makes you feel better . That’s alright though, the more you respond and babble on, the more you make yourself the fool. I’ll simply offer this one last bit of advice…..

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/926378b4db4592db7872af2bcbe97cb1a8f49f9270f13f3cd8a9fba7bb607b03.jpg

    • John30013

      She has never actively harmed the LGBT community, and she’s helped us where she could (even back when she was a Senator, saying that she personally opposed SSM, yet voted to block a bill attempting to nullify Massachussets’ law allowing SSM).

      I’m sure many of us know people—family, friends—who have “come around” on this issue. Do we denigrate them, or complain that they were “late to the party”?

      Today, in word and deed we have her full-throated support. I’m not going to criticize that.

  • greenmanTN

    Gay rights was not brought up in a substantial manner in any of the three debates, or the VP debate. I think this ad wasn’t really to garner more votes but to remind us we haven’t been forgotten.

    • djcoastermark

      Yes, it is a nice thing to see.

    • Ish

      LOL

      • The Brooklyn Beat

        LOL. Which in Ian’s case stands for Lots of Lard.

        It’s almost noon. Blue Marble Ice Cream Parlor awaits your arrival.

    • John T

      Politics doesn’t really work that way. We have to remind them, frequently and loudly, that we haven’t forgotten.

      • greenmanTN

        It was just wishful thinking.

        I just thought this ad was odd because by now most people have made up their minds and aren’t going to change them, and anyone who claims to be undecided needs to be bitch-slapped every hour on the hour.

        So why come out with this ad now, when everything is done but the shouting?

        • Randy Left Brooklyn

          This won’t be broadcast anywhere.

  • Rex

    Don’t bother to box up those rainbow lights at the White House, we’re planning to use them again.

  • fuow

    I wish the HRC would just get back in their lgb bus and drive off into the sunset for good.

  • it’s funny. i’ve been an internet user since the early days. i remember when people were mocked for having a website advocating something. “who looks at that?” people would ask, if you mentioned it in real life space using your mouth parts.

    the HRC are not my fav equality/LGBT rights group. they mean well, mostly. but likely voters are not going to see this “ad” mostly. real advertising on TV, radio and even on the internet costs a lot of money. word of mouth campaigns are nice and we should never stop trying. but producing a youtube that will be displayed on youtube and a few gay blogs will change nothing.

    this is one of the reasons why i give to LL, NCLR and other groups doing the hard, boring work of fighting for our equality where it matters… in the courts. the HRC throws some nice parties in DC, i can say that much! but if you are like me, and only have so much to give each year, this is not a group that makes the cut.

    HRC herself the candidate? she’s always been our friend. she’s not always been brave enough to say so when cameras are on, but i have no doubt that under a Clinton administration we will see some progress. a lot depends on the shape of Congress. i wish we would all spend more time looking at those races. there’s not much time left. Clinton has the presidential race sewn up. she won’t lose. but there are some really tight, really important house and senate races going on right now. drumpf has upended what all the pros expected to happen in some of those. make sure you know who your downticket options are, and if you do GOTV, make sure you tell the folks you’re busing or walking to the polling place or whatever, who the right choices for those races are.

    • Derrick Johns

      Very important comment, Chicago.
      We need Democratic victories in the Congress and in individual state races. Over-confidence is deadly in American politics.

  • Kyle Deetz

    anyone else roll their eyes at this bit about “time and again” she’s been a LGBT supporter, as if she never advocated against marriage equality.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      You mean the same way Obama did and many other supposed liberals? Really, that’s how much you despise her that you would cherry pick only her past transgression yet conveniently ignore everyone else’s. Careful dear, your disdain for the woman amongst the men is showing.

      • willward

        Does it take someone in Canada to realize how stupid these criticisms of Clinton are? Originally, Don’t Ask/Don’t Tell was created (by Bill Clinton)to give gays a chance to serve in the military if we wanted to. It was a huge improvement. Later, with changes in public opinion and a more liberal president, that was overturned, too. But she has always quietly been on the side of gay rights and later for gay equality.

      • Kyle Deetz

        I don’t despise her, but I do think that the phrase “time and again” glosses over the “evolution” she made in a disingenuous way.

        And for the record, Obama’s line about “God being in the mix” when straight people have sex implies some seriously fucked up shit about we gays, and it’s a part of his history that I don’t intend to forget.

    • John30013

      When has she ever “advocated” against marriage equality? (Note: expressions of personal opposition aren’t “advocacy”, at least not in the sense of actively calling for or working toward a goal.)

      AFAIK, Clinton has never sought legislation, nor promoted the idea, that same-sex couples didn’t deserve all the same rights as opposite-sex couples. She may not have used the term “marriage”, but I don’t think we can hang her for that.

      • jawnbc

        But her husband crafted DOMA—after courting us during his 91/92 campaign. It’s a long time ago now, but for many of us him throwing us under the bus and backing over us was painful and horrible. #imstilwithher

        • John30013

          But her husband isn’t running for President, and she wasn’t in charge when DOMA was passed, nor did she sign it into law. So I don’t think we can fairly hang that around her neck.

          For an interesting take on DOMA, as well as a review of Hillary Clinton’s actual positions and actions on LGBT issues over the years, check out this video from Matt Baume: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47kGVNVJObQ

      • Kyle Deetz

        This is what I had in mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBk-NbMFFsw

        PS I don’t think we should hang her (period). Neither do I think we should really hold it against her since she changed her mind and is now advocating for our rights. Her speech to the United Nations that Gay Rights are Human Rights was a big sign of solidarity.

        I made the comment because she did change her mind, and I think it’s something worth remembering.

  • JCF