Ben Carson: Gay Marriage Will Bring “Mass Killings”

On Friday the American Family Association cosponsored an event called the Pensmore National Symposium on Religious Liberty. In the audience was Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar and headlining the event was Dr. Stabby, who had some typically insane things to say. The Springfield News-Leader reports:

Outside the college were the letters “RLM” and a cross covered with American flags. The sign next to them read: “Religious Liberty Matters.” Inside, Ben Carson urged a conservative audience to be strong in their faith and stand by their beliefs in the face of “ever-growing government.”

Tyranny will reign otherwise, “and there will be mass killings once again,” Carson told a crowd Friday. “The peace that we experience now will be a memory only. This is the nation that stands between peace and utter chaos.” Asked at a press conference how he thought such a grim future might come about, Carson referenced “the whole gay marriage issue.”

“Why must they change it?” Carson said, referring to efforts to recognize civil unions as equal to traditional marriage. “I believe the reason is, if you can change the word of God in one area, then you can change it in every area. It’s the camel’s nose under the tent, and it will just be an avalanche of one thing after the other.”

“We won’t have anything that we can use as our reference point because we will have thrown out God’s word. It’ll be every man for himself, every man deciding for himself what is right and what is wrong, and that can’t possibly lead to a good place.”

According to the above-linked report, Carson also used his time on the stage to reaffirm his support for pussy-grabber Donald Trump. Other speakers at the event included Loony Louie Gohmert and Family Research Council vice president Jerry Boykin.dugfam
(Tipped by JMG reader Tim)

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    The word of God is NOT in the constitution Dr. Dumbfuck!

    • CPT_Doom

      And it’s been violated in this country since the First Amendment enshrined the right to heresy, you know, like the Seventh Day Adventist group Carson belongs to.

      • LackofFaithify

        Mmmm, violated.

    • Homo Erectus

      Even the word “god” isn’t in the constitution.

      • Nowhereman

        Yup–the only two mentions of religion in the Constitution are that there shall be no religious test for public office, and that we have the right to freedom of (and from) religion in the first amendment.

        • Ragnar Lothbrok

          Which they somehow interpret that they have the right to create some kind of christian super power.

        • Ted.OR

          There is a third reference that “they” use to “prove” that the Constitution is a “Christian” document:

          “…done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven…” (emphasis mine)

          Seriously. I have heard them say it: “Why didn’t they use the Chinese year or the Jewish year or the Muslim year? See? By saying “our Lord”, they MUST have been Christian.”

          Uggghhhh!!!!

          • abel

            “Common Era” and “Before Common Era” were used back then. Pity.

          • Nowhereman

            I know what you mean. Grasping at straws. I’m not religious at all, but I often say “goddammit” and “Jesus H Christ” when I burn my supper or hit my thumb with a hammer. That doesn’t make me a christian… I’m glad that we are slowly making the change to “CE” for common Era and “BCE” for before common era.

      • cleos_mom

        And most conservative Christians might have a bit of trouble with the concept of “nature’s God.”

    • Clive Johnson

      I had a breitbarter insist to me the other day that the word creator was in the constitution. I replied that, no, actually, there’s no mention of a god or a creator in it. He replied that there was and ended his sentence with ‘duh!’–suggesting I had to be rather dense not to know that. My final reply to him was a link to a website with the constitution accompanied by the suggestion that he do a word search within his browser. I never heard back.

      • agcons

        He never read it.

        • Octoberfurst

          Too many big words no doubt.

        • Ted.OR

          “I ain’t got no need to read the Constitution. Pastor Jimmy Bob down to the church told me everthang I need to know ’bout it. And the pastor is a edjiecated man. He went to Bible College!”
          /s

      • Nowhereman

        The word creator appears in the Declaration of Independence only. They are always getting that mixed up with the constitution.

        • Cboulder

          They can never seem to keep those two straight. Imagine that?

          • Nowhereman

            They seem to have the buybull mixed up with the constitution, too.

        • The_Wretched

          “Laws of Nature” and “Nature’s god”
          The god of the constitution is a deist god rather than the christian one.

          • Nowhereman

            No–no god in the constitution at all. Just the Declaration.

          • The_Wretched

            Damnit, my head thought DOI not FEDCON.

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      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        well, duh !!

        • Clive Johnson

          lol

      • 2patricius2

        Did he tell you: “It’s in the Constitution, moran…”? 🙂

        Amazing the people who don’t know the difference between the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

        • Robincho

          The Constitution is also known as Old Ironsides, which is why Raymond Burr was able to kill Margaret Hamilton in a duel…

          • Joseph Miceli

            I hope Raymond Burr has a license for that bucket of water. “Witch Lives Matter!”

          • Robincho

            Poor Raymond. Imagine spending your entire TC career furiously filing writs of mandamus, and all the while hoping for nothing more than a manned anus…

          • Joseph Miceli

            Rimshot! (how apropos!)

          • abel

            “Witch Lives Matter!” I am so stealing that.

          • Nowhereman

            Is that witch? or which?

      • Robincho

        Hanging with Breitbarfers must be SO fatiguing, psychically…

        • Clive Johnson

          It is. It’s a challenge to keep myself from being too critical and negative as a result.

          Over the past 20 months or so I’ve had dialogues/debates with 200 breitbarters minimum, more likely 250-300. I feel like I could write a book about it. It’s been very revealing. I’d estimate that 95%+ have worldviews that are largely based on misinformation. It’s one of those shocking patterns you finally see that cause you to think to yourself, “So, that’s why the world is the way it is.”

          • Kenster999

            Exactly! I really feel the average Republican voter is very well intentioned, but is operating on completely false assumptions and “facts.”

          • IamM

            I couldn’t do it. Would definitely get too critical and negative very quickly. Understandably (perhaps even deservedly) so, but counterproductive.

      • Ted.OR

        I had the same “discussion” with a christianista once. All he could come up with was that before the Constitution existed, there was only the Declaration of Independence. Thus, the DoI was equally as valid as the Constitution as far as defining the Law of the Land.

        That was the same guy who said the biblical declarations of Paul were the same as if Jesus had said them. Something like Paul was a man of God, and Jesus was God, thus … blah blah blah.

        The stupid. It hurts.

        • IamM

          The stupid, it burns.

        • Clive Johnson

          Yeah, there’s not much you can do with someone whose mind is in the dungeon of dogmatism.

        • thatotherjean

          He had never heard of the Articles of Confederation, then? Those were written in 1777, but not ratified until 1781. By 1786, the country had figured out that they didn’t work very well, since the weak central government had no real power to collect taxes from individual states, borrow money, or levy troops. The remedy was a Constitutional Convention, called in 1787,which ended in a strengthened Federal government, less power to individual states, and, of course, the Constitution.

          The Bill of Rights came later–proposed in 1789, ratified in 1791.

          • Ted.OR

            I’m surprised he didn’t try to bring in the Mayflower Compact.

            But you are right. They don’t know history, except to bolster their own beliefs.

    • FAEN

      How can someone who used to work on people’s brains not have one of his own?

      BTW-Dr Dumbfuck made me spit coffee everywhere. Thanks for the laugh.

      • KQCA

        His former patients would be wise to find out what he did in there.

    • IamM

      His Bible doesn’t bother to specifically define marriage either.

    • douglas

      Where is the incestuous pussy grabbing Duggar?

  • The Duggars? Aren’ they the family that produced, and still harbor, a child molester?

    • vorpal

      It wasn’t molestation: it was Quiverfull sex-ed home schooling.

      • Joe in PA

        From Trump University. ;(

      • There’s nothing as ugly as home made sin.

    • Ted.OR

      Yeah, but they prayed, and God forgave them. /s

  • JellyDonut

    I guess crazy never takes a holiday!

  • T-Batwoman

    Lots of diversity in that crowd…. /s

    • LackofFaithify

      Fat white people. Thin white people. Young white people. Middle aged white people. Really old white people. You really got it all!

  • LackofFaithify

    I must admit, I love this guy. Comedy gold without the threat of actual political success. I still cannot reconcile how he could be a brain surgeon though. I actually have to go Alex Jones on that one; it just can’t be true. It’s a conspiracy.

  • geoffalnutt

    “Gay marriage will bring mass killings” Spoken like a true Christian.

  • Oikos

    Alright, who leaked this part of the Agenda?

    • Dramphooey

      We should be ashamed of ourselves. We’re as bad as Obama grabbing guns. Tomorrow, tomorrow, not today, all the lazy people say!

  • Marc

    Nobody can have the things we don’t like because we’ll whip our lunatic fringe up to resort to mass killings.

  • crewman

    if you can change the word of God in one area, then you can change it in every area

    Oh, so you don’t want a democratic republic that has a healthy separation of church and state as the Founders intended. Rather you want a theocracy. Wrong country Stabby.

    • MonochromeMouse

      conservatives love separation of church and state, just so long as it’s not the christian church being kept separate. The way they whine and cry whenever a muslim, athiest, or satanist wins a court case proves it.

      • Nowhereman

        They really believe that the freedom of religion is just for christians, and only the right kind of christians at that. They really really don’t get it.

    • zhera

      The interesting thing with that quote is that it’s coming from a man who would’ve been enslaved not that long ago, by people who used the bible to justify it.

      So the ‘word of God’ has changed many times over and Carson is right: You CAN change it in every area. It’s called progress and evolution.

  • Blake Jordan
    • Oikos

      They are just failing all around.

      • Homo Erectus

        Or flailing around….

    • Gustav2

      There have been warnings the emails might be sprinkled with fakes when the threats of release were made.

    • Dramphooey

      The dumbest people alive will believe in them.

      • Michael R

        They hear what they want to hear , then they spread it .

      • Blake Jordan

        But those are people who are already not voting or voting for third party…

    • Michael Abbett

      There’s a clip of Megyn Kelly quoting from them over on FOX, with Hillary supposedly saying something about a “bucket of losers,” and Megyn having to walk it back sheepishly when they found out it wasn’t credible or authentic. They’re reading as extremely amateurish forgeries, and that makes everything coming from WikiLeaks suspect, as if it wasn’t already.

      • Michael Abbett
        • Joe in PA

          When I read the transcript (can’t watch Megyn), she didn’t sound very ‘sheepish’. More of a sorry-you-were-offended thing.

          Kelly: Whaddya want from me…it’s Fox News?

          • Michael Abbett

            Her tone is a little softer for the mea culpa, but that place is still a total grindhouse so it’s probably about the best they can do.

          • crewman

            It was a decent acknowledgement except too short in contrast to the emotion and time she gave earlier to, ‘Yes we have to acknowledge these might not be admissable in a court of law, but let’s talk about if they are true… wow. Let’s spend some time pretending they are true.’

        • StraightGrandmother

          Thanks for sharing that link. Most informative.
          Now will Matt Drudge apologize?

          John Aravosis called them as fake first. He was really the first person I saw who called them fake. He had a lot of Russian Trolls trolling his blog about 2 weeks ago and exposed them.

    • Blake Jordan

      Potentially awesome news…
      This could win a few more seats for democrats, and still have drumpf lose the presidency…

      https://twitter.com/politicalwire/status/785101350480797697

      • Ernest Endevor

        The poor dear darlings.

        • Adam King

          Bless their hearts.

      • Bluto

        yup. The ‘murican political hierarchy consists of (L-R) bill perdue, libtards, rino’s & “patriots”. Anyone denouncing trump will definitely be harshly downgraded from “patriot” to rino.

      • Nowhereman

        That whole party needs to just implode and go away.

      • zhera

        They’re damned if they do, and damned if they don’t.

        Bless their socks.

  • Gerry Fisher

    Hey, Ben. Take a look at moral and ethical atheists and ask yourself how they manage to do it without your buybull instruction manual.

  • Blake Jordan

    It is far more likely the Christian bigots will start killing LGBTQ+s en mass because the laws and the majority of society has moved passed the Christian (lack of) values!!!

    • Falconlights

      That is far more realistic than Carson’s delusional rantings.

  • vorpal

    Maybe Christians should just control their homicidal urges and keep their disgusting, mutilated, hideous religion in their pants where it belongs? I mean, whip it out in your private churches as you see fit, but the rest of us would rather not have to look at it kthx.

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      You forgot a form of buy. You cant say kthx without adding one of the options:
      kthxbye
      kthxbuy
      kthxbi

      It’s in the 2017 agenda, chapter 83, sect 9B

      • vorpal

        I never received the agenda… unless it is entitled “The Big Penis Book”…

        • Mark

          You got the wrong book. It’s supposed to be “The Book of Big Penis”

          As an old friend used to say….there’s only two types of queens. Size queens – and the rest are liars.

          • LackofFaithify

            You are both wrong, it’s “The Big Book of Penises.”

          • Mark

            AAAGGGGHHH! There’s more than ONE?

          • LackofFaithify

            Think it’s kind of like the “Joy of Cooking,” just keeps getting revised.

            EDIT: D’oh, took that the wrong way. Luckily there is another to try…

        • Homo Erectus
          • LackofFaithify

            LOL

          • Nowhereman

            Thanks for the chuckle! Do they have that on Amazon? Asking for a friend…

          • vorpal

            LOL I imagine so, since Ragnar gave it for me for my birthday :D. (Not a euphemism.)

          • Robincho

            You and Mr. Lothbrok need to just get a room already… 😉

          • Todd20036

            yup they do

          • ChrisMorley

            Of course, and there’s a video (so I’m told).

          • BobSF_94117

            Worst thing, completely impractical bookmark.

        • The Large Penis Support Group: https://www.lpsg.com/

          Theyre even on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LPSGAC/

      • Robincho

        And for those in Polynesia, kthxbai… (Chap. 83, Sec. 9B[d])

    • Nowhereman

      There’s a saying about that–to the effect of “religion is like a penis. It’s fine to have one and to be proud of it. But when you take it out and wave it in my face, we’ve got a problem.”

  • Rex

    Voting Republican goes against my sincerely held beliefs.

  • Bill Post

    Let’s protect our version of marriage by voting for Donald,fuck everyone else… Literally fuck everyone else.

    • vorpal

      Anyone who has married as many times as Trump clearly loves marriage more than I do… I mean, I’ve only done it once.

      • Bj Lincoln

        I almost threw that at my Mom when my then girlfriend asked for my hand in marriage and Mom said she didn’t believe in gay marriage. My girlfriend didn’t blink and asked if she would attend a commitment ceremony. Mom said yes to that. The entire time Mom is sitting next to her 3rd husband. We did get legally married 4 years later in DC. We are going on a total of 12 years now.

      • Clive Johnson

        21 years married here, and my only one. And…I have a well worn copy of the Agenda right here. Somehow it hasn’t destroyed my marriage.

        • Falconlights

          Gotta admit I made a mistake and married straight the first time. But I came out, divorced (amicably) and have been legally married to my wife for 9 years now and counting.

  • Terance Greene

    Pure projection, if he was able to throw away the Constitution and replace it with a form of religious theocracy we would be the ones being massacred.

    • Falconlights

      A huge “Blessed Be” to that. It is nothing but pure projection on “Dr. Deplorable’s” part. He would love to see us massacred, so of course he projects that back on us.

  • Treant

    Well, my husband and I totally killed it last night, so to speak.

    • vorpal

      Dicks or GTFO.

      • Joe in PA

        Damn auto-correct, I’m SURE you meant PICS! 🙂

        • Traxley Launderette

          I’m good with either one.

        • Paula

          His Freudian slip is showing.

          • Joe in PA

            or mine. 🙂

    • Robincho

      Was Ward gettin’ a little hard on the beaver? AGAIN?…

  • Wesinoregon

    They don’t understand that liberty means freedom. We don’t have to do what you say Dr Stabby.

  • greenmanTN

    I’m assuming the crowd behind them are Jim Bob and Michelle’s children?

    • Mark

      If she has half an ovary left, she’ll sprinkle some S(al)t. Peter on his scrambled eggs.

    • Dramphooey

      I’d be like the woman to the right who is obviously posing with her partner. “What? Oh, you’re taking a photo of these two losers on my right? Whatever for?” A very elderly crowd and the youngest appearing guy in the picture looks sick to his stomach.

    • Menergy

      My first thought seeing the picture of all those children on stage was “That’s the Duggar clan!” OMG

  • AtticusP

    I keep reminding myself: this guy is a fucking brain surgeon.

    Oh, well: I suppose SOMEONE has to be last on the list of graduates from medical school.

    • Traxley Launderette

      He got a trophy for participation.

    • Adam King

      He may be a brain surgeon, but he’s no rocket scientist.

  • Rex

    Christians supporting Trump tells you all you need to know about what their real agenda is, and it’s not one of love and inclusion.

  • popebuck1

    There will be “mass killings once again”? Huh? When in American history have there ever been mass killings of Christians? Did the Huguenot massacre happen here and not France?

    • stuckinthewoods

      That St. Bartholomew’s Day Massacre in 1572 was important in the history of our country. The violence engenderered fear that the far more powerful Catholic states would “enslave” England. Sir Walter Raleigh was in France for 5 years to assist the Protestant Queen of Navarre and witnessed the massacre. His brother Sir Humphrey Gilbert had tried to establish a colony in Nova Scotia and after Gilbert’s death, Raleigh continued to press Elizabeth for permission to send an exploration expedition which she eventually allowed. After checking out Florida they tried a colony in NC, the Lost Colony, later to present day Virginia.

  • Mark

    I’m gonna take 10 and spend some time with my firmly held religious belief…for a little relief from all this heavenly mind set.

  • greenmanTN

    How is it possible that this man was supposedly a gifted surgeon, yet a total fucking moron?

    • Wesinoregon

      I think he had a lot of help with his surgeries and didn’t credit others for it. I’d never let him get near me with a knife.

    • Homo Erectus

      Well, Donald is a genius businessman, isn’t he?

      • Nowhereman

        Yes, yes he is. He figured out how to go bankrupt running casinos and get rich on the tax breaks, all while using other people’s money. He epitomizes “trickle down”–and probably golden showers, too.

    • MonochromeMouse

      “gifted surgeon” is a bit generous, he’s most famous for separating a pair of conjoined twins who were conjoined in such a way that the surgery was extremely low risk in the first place. basically the equivalent of a surgeon getting famous for removing the extra skin from someone with webbed fingers or stitching up a cleft palate

      • greenmanTN

        I’ve never really looked into his medical career and only became aware of him when he became political. He just seems so dim witted that I wonder about his alleged skill in surgery.

        • BobSF_94117

          Note, “skill”. It’s a craft, not an art.

        • thatotherjean

          When I lived in Baltimore and Dr. Carson worked at Johns Hopkins, he was acknowledged as among the best of the best. You don’t get to be Director of Pediatric Neurosurgery there by being incompetent. So, yes, he was a very good surgeon; he’s just not good at anything else. I strongly suspect that his education was a mile deep and an inch wide.

      • StraightGrandmother

        I always questioned that we was a “Leading” Neurosurgeon.

      • stuckinthewoods

        He’s been sued for malpractice in MD eight times but apparently that’s not too bad a track record for neurosurgery.

      • IamM

        I just assumed the cases he was famous for had nothing to lose.

        • MonochromeMouse

          yeah, that’s pretty much exactly it

    • Bj Lincoln

      It’s all he knows. The rest of the world passed him by.

    • LackofFaithify

      As I said earlier, I have to go Alex Jones on this claim. It can’t be true; conspiracy of the lizard people. I just don’t believe the claims.

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        I remember you saying that earlier.

    • Stev84

      People can be very intelligent in one area, but absolutely stupid at everything else

    • Adam King

      He had a good ghostwriter and publicist. (Also he’s kind of an idiot savant, but without the savant part.)

    • gaymex1

      We need to ask the patients who didn’t survive surgery what they think of his gifts.
      It’s hard to see how he made it through undergrad school, let alone med school. Probably didn’t need much in the way of the humanities or he took bible studies instead of philosophy 101.

    • Clive Johnson

      A few years ago I read the book What Intelligence Tests Miss: The Psychology of Rational Thought. The basic argument is that research has found that there’s almost no correlation between your score on an intelligence test and your capacity for rational thought. IQ test also don’t measure bias or dogmatism.

      So, you can achieve some success based on your native intelligence but not really be able to think your way out of a box. Hence, Carson.

      • stuckinthewoods

        That absolutely conforms to my experience of life, my personal estimation of self. I have always thought that what is measured as “intelligence” differs from “smart.” Use whatever terms you desire but I think most of us have experienced that.

        • Clive Johnson

          Same here.

          Another interesting thing I’ve come across is that IQ and creativity also have little correlation. While IQ seems fairly hard to budge, both rationality and creativity can be improved.

    • Schlukitz

      There is a thin line between genius and insanity.

    • edrex

      was talking abt this last night at dinner with a group of friends. someone noted that despite his claims to have separated many conjoined twins, the survival rate was not so good. so, he’s maybe not so skilled after all?

      • zhera

        Someone should ask him why he separated twins when obviously God had intended for them to be conjoined. Why was he messing with God’s creation? Why did he doubt God’s work?

      • thatotherjean

        Unfortunately, the survival rate for conjoined twins in general is not so good. He may have operated on some cases he should have passed up, but you don’t head pediatric neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins if you’re not damned good at what you do.

    • zhera

      The Holy Spirit will do that.

    • Robincho

      Don’t you mean a grifted surgeon? (Asking for a friend…)

  • Bill

    So, gay people shouldn’t be able to marry because crazed heterosexuals can’t control their murderous impulses?

    Sure. Makes perfect sense.

  • JT
  • Paul Forsyth

    “It’ll be every man for himself, every man deciding for himself what is right and what is wrong, and that can’t possibly lead to a good place.”

    Umm is that not a good thing??

  • Michael R

    Where Josh at ?

    • LackofFaithify

      The Women’s restroom. Middle stall.

  • Homo Erectus

    Ben, honey – here’s your Sunday morning message from jezus:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq0XJCJ1Srw

    • Adam King

      Some things just get more beautiful each time you encounter them.

  • Blake Jordan

    Potentially awesome news…
    This could win a few more seats for democrats, and still have drumpf lose the presidency…

    https://twitter.com/politicalwire/status/785101350480797697

  • ericxdc

    “Because if we can’t write our version of what we think our god is saying to us into every ones’ laws, I mean… what’s the point of having a god at all?”

    –Ben Carson

  • carrot festival

    Oh how cute…they’re screening Bedtime for Bonzo. Such an appropriate film for this crowd.

  • Joe in PA

    And I thought NOM et. al. had come up with every comparison to same sex marriage possible…now we have a camel’s nose under the tent?

    The mind boggles.

    • Homo Erectus

      I thought it said “camel toes under the tent” 😉

      • Joe in PA

        not gonna snicker, not gonna snicker.

        Oh hell: hahahahahahaha!

    • Bj Lincoln

      Really! What is that about anyway? I thought it was a camel through the eye of a needle.

      • grada3784

        It’s a tie to Arabs, Islam and Isis.

  • Stev84

    >”We won’t have anything that we can use as our reference point”

    So you admit that you are amoral and asocial

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      typed wrongly

  • Ernest Endevor

    The hubby and I will now for the farmers’ market to buy vegetables. Let’s hope that bloodshed doesn’t occur.

  • StraightGrandmother

    Our elected leaders put their hand on the Bible (or not) and swear to uphold the Constitution, they don’t put their hand on the Constitution and swear to uphold the Bible.

  • skyweaver

    I was all set with some snark until I saw that photo of Reagan in the background and now all I can think is THE GUY IS DEAD YOU GUYS

    • Mikey

      and wouldn’t agree with these nutcases anyways.
      besides, strictly speaking, his wife was practising “witchcraft” with her regular visits to an astrologer.
      I mean come on! once you accept astrology into the white house, how far are you from burning christians at the stake or throwing them into arenas with wild beasts?

  • Traxley Launderette

    BEN:

    YOU’RE MENTALLY DERANGED.

    NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT YOU AND YOUR CRAZY TALK.

    YOU HANG OUT WITH RELIGIOUS EXTREMISTS, SEXUAL PERVERTS, AND PREDATORS OF INNOCENT CHILDREN.

    NOBODY LIKES YOU, STOP TALKING, AND WE ALL WISH YOU WOULD GO AWAY FOR EVER AND EVER.

    –America

  • Silver Badger

    “Gay marriage will bring about mass killings” sounds rather like a threat.

    • Bj Lincoln

      It has been over a year. When is it suppose to start?

      • Soon.

      • Silver Badger

        Well, we did have Pace in Orlando to start. That was quite enough mass killing for me. Do they have something else planned?

        • Schlukitz

          The question is, was that horrible mass killing the result of marriage equality…or just plain, old-fashioned homophobia that existed long before any changes of our marriage laws took place?

  • GayOldLady

    I’m an Old Person, but I couldn’t help but notice that the AGE of that audience is basically Ancient. I see one young person around 30, a few people younger than 40 a few more 50 something, but the rest look to be 65+. The FRC is on its way out of business.

  • StraightGrandmother

    Oh, and thanks JMG reader Tim for bringing this story to Joe.

  • Robert Conner

    It’s the ghost of Ronnie Reagan! How appropriate that the first completely incompetent president of modern times, dimwit x senile + ignorant, the corporate sock puppet who opened the door to grifting evangelical far right, would be conjured up from the grave at this loony tunes seance.

  • ericxdc

    “Any gay marriage stuff going on in that tent? We’re, ummm… we’re just asking for a…friend. Yeah! That’s it… a friend.” https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6ba8a6e62ede20e2c9ec135368ec0bba131789053fc83da3b9290810163c8127.png

  • Speaking of pussies . . .

  • Tigernan Quinn

    “Changing the word of god.” God had a lot to say about secular, contractual marriage in a modern republic, did He? Seems more like mass genocide and feeling awful about your body are more His things.

  • Andy McFerrin

    So marriage has been legal for over a year now. When are those mass killings kicking up again?

    • Silver Badger

      As soon as Ben and his friends work up the nerve or convince someone to do the killing.

  • Larry in Oklahoma

    Ben Carson said ““Why must they change it?”
    It’s already BEEN changed, Ben.
    “….efforts to recognize civil unions as equal to traditional marriage…” That’s not efforts, that’s already happened too.
    “…if you can change the word of God in one area, then you can change it in every area.” Something Christians have been doing a lot of here lately.

    “We won’t have anything that we can use as our reference point because we will have thrown out God’s word.” Which version, Ben? The King James Version or any other translation is a carefully selected group of scriptures. NO ONE knows what the real version would be like.
    “It’ll be every man for himself, every man deciding for himself what is right and what is wrong, and that can’t possibly lead to a good place.” That’s called abiding by The Constitution and abiding by the Supreme Court’s decisions.

    Poor ole Ben, in a crowd of white people selling his ass to be more popular. Wake up, Ben, they don’t care a thing about you.

    • grada3784

      In the middle of reading a book on the Stuart dynasty. Just finished the chapters on Queen James. OMG, but she was a flamer.

      • Larry in Oklahoma

        I let the main point slip away. He said “gay marriage will cause mass killings.” What he does NOT say is that it is NOT Christians being killed–that’s what he’s wanting people to believe–but it’s the Christians going after the gay people.

        • Schlukitz

          Same-sex marriage has been legal in Massachusetts since May 17, 2004.

          In all that time, there has been no record of “Mass killings” as a result of that which makes you a liar, Dr. Stabby.

          • westford

            We are waiting for the right time. You see us on the streets, meeting silently in small groups.

            When the demon-controlled Hillary Clinton arises to the throne of despotism, then we will make our move.

      • stuckinthewoods

        Sounds interesting, what’s the title?

        • grada3784

          Dynasty: The Stuarts

          by John Macleod

          It goes from pre-kingship thru to Bonnie Prince Charlie and his brother Henry, the Cardinal. The generally accepted current Stuart heir is the Duke of Bavaria.

          • Robincho

            I’ve got two questions for John Macleod:
            Did “Queen James” come eot? And was she preod?…

      • Robincho

        “Habemus Reginam Jacobam” was a thing in the cobblestone streets of Styart London. Srsly…

        • grada3784

          As was First Elizabeth was king, now James is Queen.

          Or
          James was the new Solomon, since his father was David, the harper.

          • Robincho

            Dragging Valerie into this is unseemly…

          • grada3784

            Sue-Ann ok? Unfortunately Chuckles the Clown was shelled by a rogue elephant; I think it’s name was Sarah.

          • Robincho

            A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down yer pants!

      • Falconlights

        Which book? Would love to read it. Seriously.

    • Ted.OR

      They always neglect to mention, too, that the Bible did not magically come down from the heavens. Three hundred plus years AFTER Jesus, a group of MEN got together, and examined a couple hundred documents, then decided which ones to include in the Bible.

      What about those excluded documents? What prejudices were there so that they were thrown out? Were there other documents that they did not even know about? What about ones that have been discovered since then?

  • Clive Johnson

    He speaks with the understanding of a child or adolescent. It’s astonishing to me, seriously. How old is he?

    ““I believe the reason is, if you can change the word of God in one area, then you can change it in every area. It’s the camel’s nose under the tent, and it will just be an avalanche of one thing after the other.”

    There’s the assumption that there’s a uniform understanding of what this god’s word is. Anthropologically, sociologically, there is no such thing, not by a long shot. Beliefs about what “god wants” are all over the map.

    Carson is like many god believers in that he simply can’t imagine that his own interpretations and beliefs about this god could possibly be other than they are. Carson agrees with his god and his god agrees with Carson. The intentions of the creator of the universe are knowable, and only Carson and others who agree with Carson truly know them. Everyone else lacks something–reason, spiritual insight, faith–that prevents them from seeing this. The question is never asked as to why, if this god believes it paramount that its intentions are known by humans, that these intentions are either vaguely indicated or not mentioned at all.

    “We won’t have anything that we can use as our reference point because we will have thrown out God’s word. It’ll be every man for himself, every man deciding for himself what is right and what is wrong, and that can’t possibly lead to a good place.”

    Amazing! Seriously. It’s as though he’s not aware of the great doctrinal divisions throughout Christian history, especially today, or the fact that there exist non-Christian religions that also have god beliefs that differ from his. The “every man for himself” already exists within Christianity and certainly exists across various religious differences.

    All of Carson’s comments stem from an all too familiar sectarian chauvinism: Out of thousands of options for religious belief, only mine is true. My church, my tradition, my faith. All the rest of you are fallen and benightedly ignorant of the One True Faith, the one that I just happen to have as my own since, well, I’m special in god’s eyes/I have true spiritual insight and you don’t/my faith is stronger than yours/etc.. And that’s perhaps the core of it: narcissism. Narcissism necessarily locked into place by lack of self-awareness, a mind immune to rational organization and self-criticism, and the parochial narrowness of a conservative worldview never questioning its boundaries.

    Carson wants “religious freedom” for this.

    • Menergy

      Thank you!!!! +1,000 up votes

      • Clive Johnson

        Good morning! 🙂

    • octobercountry

      Very, very well said!

    • fastlanestranger

      My God…if I could formulate thoughts like yours…I don’t know what I’d do…rule the world maybe?
      Basically, I’m envious of your genius! 🙂
      Seriously though…brilliant comment!

      • Clive Johnson

        You flatterer, you. Thank you. However, when I apply terms like brilliant or genius to myself, they absolutely do not fit.

        • fastlanestranger

          Don’t sweat it… We’ll do it for you.

        • Robincho

          Toss in a little more male nudity and things’d fit like a glove…

    • Schlukitz

      Well said. Bravo!

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      Most excellent CJ !

  • Henry Auvil

    Isn’t “every man deciding for himself what is right and what is wrong” more or less the definition of a democracy?

    • Robincho

      Christ on a crack binge! Are you high, or such as?…

  • agcons

    Operating on yourself is bad, Ben. You’re aware that what you see in the mirror is actually reversed?

  • Marti386

    ““Why must they change it?” Carson said, referring to efforts to recognize civil unions as equal to traditional marriage.”

    Yeah exactly.

    “Why must they change it?” Carson said, referring to efforts to recognize voting for black people.

    “Why must they change it?” Carson said, referring to efforts to recognize voting for women.

    “Why must they change it?” Carson said, referring to efforts to free the slaves.

    “Why must they change it?” Carson said, referring to the discovery of fire.

    Because all LIFE is change. It’s called progress, you fvcking moron.

  • Ellipse Kirk

    Still batshit crazy, I see.

  • Schlukitz

    Dr. Stabby doesn’t make it clear just who will be perpetrating the killings…the gays or the anti-gays?

  • Nowhereman

    Why the hell are these idiots so focused on gay sex? I have a theory…

  • Sashineb

    It hasn’t happened in Canada, and we’ve had same-sex marriage for many years now. But we don’t have as many hateful religious fanatics as USA, either.

  • AdamTh

    Could someone photoshop a couple scalpels into Dr Stabby’s hands? It would really complete that photo!

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    That gathering reminds me of both the RNC convention and the picture Paul Ryan had of the GOP congressional interns.

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    Also, if they were really scared about criminal behavior, they would have chased out the Duggars because man, I am so sick of religious people using the “childwen, childwen” excuse while harboring abusers amongst their midst.

    I’m sad it’s the tabloids of all publications that probably keep alive memory of how crappy the Duggars are and keep them from doing a comeback.

  • Randy503

    Yeah, just look at all those killings in Canada!

  • SilasMarner

    Oh Dr. Stabby just shut up already.

  • rextrek1

    These are some sick mentally challenged people……and the kind of sick of their own making! SAD! Carson is a Weirdo…….

  • BC’ing You

    As I read the article and looked at the final photo, I was reminded of an extended 2 minutes hate rally (as in Orwell’s 1984). The the image of Ronald Reagan appears and everyone becomes quiet while chanting a soothing “BB”, “BB”, “BB” (or perhaps “RR”). An evangelical regime would just as frightening as the world of 1984.

    • Maggie 4NoH8

      I wrote an entire paper in college positing 1984 wasn’t in reality a political satire piece, but a religious satire piece… My lesbian professor thought it was wonderful – got an A+ on it. LOL

  • PLAINTOM

    I find it ironic that a PROTESTANT stands before an audience and states changing the word of god is a bad thing. If the word of God and Christian belief hadn’t changed over the centuries, he would have been burned to death for heresy long ago. Christianity has changed constantly since it was first created in the fevered imagination of Paul 2,000 years ago.

  • david fairfield

    Has anyone told him that marriage equality was passed over a year ago? This man is obviously out of his mind.

  • PLAINTOM

    Memo to Carson : There was a time when the US government forced Christians to change their belief in what God’s words mean and it was bloody and many people died. It was called the American Civil War. Do you disagree that this was a good thing ?

  • Patrick

    Who kicked over the rock he was hiding under?

  • Ceann Eltigh

    Meanwhile…
    Jonathan Saenz is begging for “emergency donations and fervent prayers” in his lost cause before the Texas Supreme Court. They already smacked him down once.
    https://www.texasobserver.org/texas-values-same-sex-marriage-court-again/

  • KnownDonorDad

    “ever-growing government.”

    You mean like the law in Indiana that requiring aborted or miscarried fetuses be buried or cremated, but at least allows the women to decide how this is carried out?

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    You know Ben, your puerile and wholly over the fucking top hyperbolic screeching would have more gravitas IF it weren’t for one small yet salient fact: gay marriage, as you call it, has already been legal in several nations globally and in the U.S. for over a year. So the glaringly obvious question is: where are these gay inspired mass killings you speak of? Wait, what’s that? You need another Ambien? Ok then, nighty night, you vapid, cognitively dissonanced twerp.

    • RoFaWh

      Ben reminds me of the latest folly of the Victoria (BC) City Council. Having had cannabis dispensaries operating freely around the city for some years now, they’ve come up with a long list of bureaucratic rules that experience shows are not necessary. I have seen no one running down the street naked and screaming while high. No minors have been able to buy their dope in a dispensary. No white slave track has been detected in conjunction with the trade in cannabis. Why then so many rules and regs?

  • KnownDonorDad
  • Gay marriage has been legal for over a year now. So, where are they hiding all of the corpses?

  • westford

    Of course Carson is insane, but I still wonder if he keeps a Kosher home. “if you can change the word of God in one area, then you can change it in every area.”

    • NO MORE GOP!

      Pretty sure he’s trimmed the corners of his hair, too. Abomination!

    • Robincho

      Tabby keeps a KOSHE home, just as POVERBS commands him to do…

  • The total lack of self-awareness of these tools never fails to amaze me.

  • Mow

    I read the account name quickly and thought it said “Duggar Family Ordeal.”

  • MikeBx2

    It isn’t about “the word of God”, but since he mentioned it, where does it say it’s ok to get as many no fault divorces and remarriages as you’d like? Because that’s been law for men and women for a very long time. So if his god’s word has been changed, it started with what heterosexual couples demanded long ago.

  • coram nobis

    Just to show whose side commits atrocities when they win elections, here’s an interesting story out of the UK: post-Brexit, anti-LGBT hate crimes were up 147%.

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/oct/08/homophobic-attacks-double-after-brexit-vote

  • DN

    Fuck your god, for all the good he does. And fuck you, Carson.

  • Cboulder

    Loony Louie oh-oh…

  • There is, at present, only one group threatening mass killings.

    They are Donald Trump’s hardcore supporters. The white supremacists already talking about resuming lynchings of black people, and adding Muslims and Hispanics. The ones gleefully describing their desires for concentration camps and ovens for Jewish people.

    And it’s incredibly ironic given some of their intended targets that deluded fools like Carson claim their people champion ‘religious freedom.’ Obviously and self-evidently, it’s only one religion — theirs.

  • westford

    “It’ll be every man for himself, every man deciding for himself what is
    right and what is wrong, and that can’t possibly lead to a good place.”

    Vladimir Putin

  • Bruce_in_Mpls

    “It’s the camel’s nose underneath the tent” ???

    Doesn’t he mean “It’s the camels toes?”

    • Maggie 4NoH8

      Probably, but then the Donald would want to just grab, grab, grab!

  • Captain Obvious
  • Joseph Miceli

    The only way Carson could be right is if passing marriage equality so enrages “Christians” that they start randomly killing gays in large masses.
    It wouldn’t be the first time “God’s gentle people” did so.

  • Richard B

    Dr. Ben Carson should have stayed away from politics and preserved his professional reputation. All people are going to remember now is his loopy word salad speeches.

  • Porkie

    Dear Jim-Bob & Michelle, Who’s baby sitting?

    • kareemachan

      Probably Josh Duggar.

  • Michael Hampton

    Did no one tell him that the issue of marriage equality has already been settled?

  • Tom (Wpg)

    Thanks to Reagan’s closing down all the mental institutions, this idiot still roams the streets.

  • James

    There have been legal same-sex marriages for over a decade and a half. When are the killings scheduled to begin?

    • Homo Erectus

      We all know the gays are late for everything.

      • jmax

        Fashionably late.

        • Maggie 4NoH8

          Gotta make an ENTRANCE you know!

  • Hank
  • kareemachan

    “Once again”? Like Nazi Germany? 15th century Spain?

  • sword

    What I fear is that the ‘mass killings’ will against the LGBT community.

  • Gianni

    Highlighting religious insanity in the usual manner. The universe is going to explode and take us with it because, you guessed it, equal rights for gay people. God hates, hates, hates that shit with a passion! Thank you Dr. He is a perfect example of how real brains aren’t necessary to make something of yourself in life. He’s a brain surgeon so he’s good with the medical mechanics of tinkering physically with the human brain. Beyond that, he’s pretty much a mental midget.

  • JCF

    [Notes pic of their favorite President (pre-Drumpf): the adulterous-fornicator]

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/98de8600866c40acaabcbb7bdc5f2f522b075754d174ba223cf622c768f9dac1.jpg

  • douglas

    So he thinks same sex marriage will leaf to mass killings? Oh honey, you have it all wrong. It’s Christianity you are thinking of.

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  • andrew

    Ben Carson has done more to undermine my confidence in the medical profession than anyone else.

  • DesertSun59

    See how they’ve all tipped their hand? Rational people who know what’s in the Bible know that he made up everything.