ALABAMA: Roy Moore’s Trial For Defying SCOTUS On Marriage Concludes, Court Has Ten Days To Issue Ruling

The Associated Press reports:

Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore should be removed from office for defying the U.S. Supreme Court on gay marriage, a lawyer for a disciplinary commission argued on Wednesday.

R. Ashby Pate, a lawyer for the Judicial Inquiry Commission, said marriage equality was settled law in all 50 states when Moore told Alabama’s 68 probate judges in January that they remained bound by his court’s order to refuse the licenses to same-sex couples.

A federal judge had already clarified this for Alabama’s judges, citing the Obergefell vs. Hodges ruling in an injunction telling them to drop the state’s ban, Pate said.

“His order sowed confusion. It did not clear it up. He urged defiance, not compliance,” Pate told the Alabama Court of the Judiciary. “He ordered each and every subordinate probate judge to defy a federal injunction.”

Moore did acknowledge in a testy cross-examination, however, that he told probate judges to follow the very same state court order that a federal judge specifically said they could no longer enforce.

The nine-member court has 10 days to rule on whether Moore violated judicial ethics, and what punishment he should face if so. A decision to remove him from the bench must be unanimous.

  • Kelly Lape

    The bible is not the Constitution.

    • Soren456

      And religious dogma is not public policy.

      • Rex

        Tell that to the people that like to make signs.

        • another_steve

          I’m disturbed by the “Sodomy Ruins Nations” sign. I remember, fondly, sodomy.

          Before I got married, that is — and all that ended.

          • Rex

            Maybe it should be “Marriage Ruins Sodomy.”

          • another_steve

            ^^ LMAO.

            Seventy upvotes.

          • olandp

            If you want to stop gay sex, let us get married!

          • Brianna Amoré

            And of course their only proof of that is a 2000 year old story about a city that wouldn’t welcome visitors, so God smote them.

          • another_steve

            Well, only the deity of the fundamentalist Judeo-Christians, that. Their boy seems to have had a particular hangup when it comes to the shtupping.

            Easterners aren’t infected with the same problem. Hindus, for instance, have very sexy gods. Gods who aren’t afraid to give and receive.

            I’m a Philosophical Daoist by nature, and we have no problem with the nasty.

            Very seldom have I ever encountered a fellow Philosophical Daoist — one who is 100 percent straight — who has had a problem with the queer nasty.

          • Nowhereman

            I thought it was about a father who pimped out his daughters to save his own ass. I never could figure out why gay people have to pay for the problems of straight people.

          • Nic Peterson

            Lott was offering his daughters because the the townies I question really wanted to knock boots with the angels he had stashed away. I can’t blame them either, nothing like angel tail to make you not care about the impending doom your metro area faces at the hands of someone else’s sky fairy.

          • jimbo65

            And don’t forget Lot’s daughters deciding to have a sausage party with dear Ole dad not long after.

          • Nic Peterson

            Yeah, after mom gets turned into a condiment. And they all lived happily ever after.

          • clay

            . . . if only she’d been turned into a condom . . .

          • (((GC)))

            Eat your wieners in buns, no condiments. Anything else is wrong!
            http://www.jhuger.com/kissing-hanks-ass

          • BobSF_94117

            Hold on. Angels wear boots?

          • Nic Peterson

            Yup. Some of them wear surf shorts and sandals, others wear business attire. I’ve spent my life surrounded by angels and I too have sought to ‘know’ them.

          • B Snow
        • (((GC)))
    • Gustav2

      They have been convinced the Constitution is straight from the Bible and only Christians are real citizens.

    • Ed Things4fun
      • clay

        on their other pet issue: abortion.

        Next up: climate disruption.

      • JT

        I would choose to put my hand somewhere on his body and swear.

        • jimbo65

          A Tourettes defense comes in handy in that situation…Just sayin

      • Nowhereman

        And that is a big part of the problem.Stop swearing on buybulls, remove “under god” from the pledge, change our national motto “in god we trust” back to “E Pluribus Unum”, stop the practice of opening congress with a prayer, and stop mixing nationalism/faux patriotism with sporting events. PLAY BALL!

  • JoeMyGod
    • ByronK

      Boy, I bet Brian Brown is green with envy over the size of that crowd. Snort.

      • bkmn

        He will have to run to Taco Bell and get four or five meal boxes to settle himself down.

      • TrollopeReader

        oh man, is Bri-bri snorting with Donnie again?

      • david fairfield

        Hey, where was Brian? If he had organized this there would have been an additional 11 people!

    • Grafxbear

      Wow, all 10 supporters.

    • djcoastermark

      What the heck is with the nutbag bible thumpers and their bull horns ? It’s universal across the country. Do they get a discount at the local xstain bookstore on them. And why do they always have the same nutty rambling nonsensicle message ?

      • clay

        They prefer the world in talk-radio’s AM monotone?
        They believe volume equals conviction?
        They just really like wearing things around their necks, wrists (and ankles)?

      • TrollopeReader

        would that be talking in tongues?

      • Jay George

        Bible thumpers have weak messages. The way they compensate is to be loud. If you ever watch those televangelist preachers, some of them just scream at the top of their lungs. Because in the face of no real message, they choose volume instead. Loathsome.

        • RoFaWh

          They’re wrecking their vocal cords screaming like that.

        • NedFlaherty

          Televangelicals and in-person evangelicals are just like amateur musicians in a 3-man band. With light material and absent talent, all they can do is just turn up the volume as far as it’ll go.

    • Jay George

      That sounds like Ambrosia Starling at the mic. I truly admire her. She’s as brave as anybody to be able to stand up and fight against bigotry. She protests Moore’s vile actions all over the state. She’s got a GoFundMe page if anybody wants to help.

  • JoeMyGod
    • BobSF_94117

      I imagine they have to weigh ousting him with the certainty that he’d run for governor and win.

  • JoeMyGod
    • Gianni

      What exactly was Staver’s point? The Supreme Court made a constitutionally based decision about marriage equality. Based on his history, one has to assume he feels that said decision is not constitutional. However, he knows full well that the Constitution itself says nothing about marriage.

  • MikeBx2

    Lock him up. lol

    • Nowhereman

      He can share a cell with Arpaio.

  • JoeMyGod
    • Jay George

      Last time, a man shared a heartfelt personal story about the loss of his spouse and one of these Christians stood there and laughed out loud at the man’s pain the death of his husband. It was one of the sorriest displays I’ve ever seen.

  • JoeMyGod
    • Gianni

      I’d suggest that God gets on with it already. Generations of Americans have been stating that same thing and we’re still waiting. What the hell gives?

      • Frostbite

        Very ineffective!

        • Gianni

          I just stated my feelings. Tired of waiting for the shit to hit the fan already. What I said is true. We’ve been waiting through countless generations with the very same predictions of heavenly retribution for our sins and it’s still being predicted as imminent. Am I missing something here?

          • Jay George

            Let me check the apocalypse calendar for the next scheduled rain of fire.

        • Gianni

          You’re right. God has been very ineffective in doing what’s necessary to make all those hocus-pocus predictions come true.

        • HanyBaal

          Low energy god

      • Christopher

        “Shit or get off the pot!” as my mother used to say.

        • Gianni

          I tend to agree. It’s tiresome wait to be punished.

    • olandp

      The Rapture can’t come soon enough for me, I need a new car.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LXuNpF6NVg

  • JoeMyGod
  • JoeMyGod
    • Jay George

      John Archibald is great most of the time. He’s left-leaning and very sympathetic. I was told his brother is gay, but I don’t know it first hand.

    • (((GC)))

      Can we find a way to make Moore ineligible for ANY public office in the state?

      • D. J.

        In the country…..fixed it for you. 😜

  • JoeMyGod
    • Gianni

      Only because he, like many other delusionals, claims the support of God’s holy word. Funny how an apparently intelligent man hasn’t learned that using that excuse doesn’t hold up in a court of law. He, of all people, didn’t pay enough attention to his legal studies.

  • JoeMyGod
    • The_Wretched

      At least Staver pretty much loses every case he tries (in the legal setting). Staver personally will fund raise on the outcome regardless and laugh on the way to the bank.

      • Herald

        The $ are what really seem to matter to Staver.

    • clay

      and yet, “Moore did acknowledge in a testy cross-examination, however, that he told probate judges to follow the very same state court order that a federal judge specifically said they could no longer enforce.”

      So they might not get him on the morals charges, but on the failure to uphold the law charge . . .

  • JoeMyGod
    • Gustav2

      His faith is truly bad.

      • Xuuths

        It matches his lawyer skills.

    • Gianni

      How about how he tried to use the state law to project his personal animosity against gay people? I’d say that was both bad faith and bad motive. Actually, it’s disgusting that a judge of the state Supreme Court would use his position to boost and support the animosity of the population toward equal rights for gay people. At best, he should have stayed the hell out of it.

    • The_Wretched

      Other than attempting to provoke a Constitutional crisis by having a State go rogue on a SCOTUS decision.

      • Gustav2

        It’s not like southern states have tried that before or anything.

        • TrollopeReader

          Where’s General Sherman when you need him??

          • Jay George

            Pretty sure he’s in the same place as Bear Bryant. o_o

    • clay

      and yet, they don’t have to, that only applies to one of the two charges.

  • Rex

    So all this time I’ve been using condoms to avoid Bear Bryant sex?
    So confused right now.

    • Gustav2

      Is it some new code in P-town?

      • Rex

        I’ve seen bears in bareback porn, but not Bear Bryant specifically.
        Unless that’s some guy’s porn name.

        • Nowhereman

          If it was a porno name, it would be Bare Bryant.

          • IamM

            Like Girth Brooks.

    • JoeMyGod

      It’s a mocking photoshop of the original sign which I’ve posted above.

      • Rex

        I wondered about that, just assuming the sign maker had no idea what bare back sex was.
        It’s act three in the play he want’s to outlaw “Sodomite Acts.” He should check it out. Takes place in a locker room after a football game, so he could imagine Bear Bryant.

    • Nowhereman

      That one went right past me, too. Is Bear Bryant gay?

      • TrollopeReader

        longtime Alabama football coach. a deity down there.

        • Nowhereman

          That explains why it went right past me. Not into football OR Alabama.

    • nocadrummer

      I’d want to avoid Bear Bryant sex as well!

      • Jay George

        Considering he’s been dead 20 or 30 years, I would too. :p

  • Sam_Handwich

    so he gets removed

    then he’ll run for governor and win

    • Rex

      Sounds about right.

      • Gaiboi66

        I’ve been meaning to tell you, if you were any more sexier, I’d forget I was married….at least for the night.

        • Rex

          Ah, thank you.
          I think.

        • Rex

          I don’t fool around with married guys, but couples are allowable.

          • (((GC)))

            Some married/partnered folks are available (swingers, poly, etc.)…

    • David

      Yea…..by a landslide.

    • David

      Or he’ll be the next junior US Senator from Alabama.

      But, you never know. By today’s psychotic Teabagger standards, he may not be conservative enough.

    • Nowhereman

      If Trump is elected, I’m sure that Judge Moore is on his Supreme Court wish list.

      • pj

        not crazy enough

        • Nowhereman

          Wow. But you may be right, and that’s even crazier!

  • Megrim Twist

    What was that they were screaming about “activist judges,” hmmm? HMMM?

    • (((GC)))

      IOKIYARWNJ.

  • JellyDonut

    the decision has to be unanimous to remove him — How often do you get that many judges to agree on anything?

    • The_Wretched

      They did once before. Moores is an embarrassment to the profession – that’s the underlying key to the ethics board’s decisions.

      • bkmn

        Unfortunately the Alabama Bar Association is loaded with his buddies so the chances of him being disbarred are very low.

        • Reality.Bites

          They are none. He is not facing disbarment. Period. No chance

  • JoeMyGod
  • Todd

    Forced retirement for Jurassic Roy.

  • Oikos

    If they remove Royboy, he will run for governor and probably win. We are talking about Alabama after all, a state that doesn’t make Mississippi look quite as bad.

  • VodkaAndPolitics

    I wouldn’t get your hopes up folks… Judges are notorious for not censuring one another for fear that they themselves may face censure some other day.

    • The_Wretched

      The ethics segment of the bar, everywhere, are some of the most censorious lawyers ever. Im fully expecting them to remove Moore, for the second time.

  • JoeMyGod
    • The_Wretched

      Were those the Acts of the Apostles?

  • bkmn

    Roy Moore and his gang of morons are free to believe as they wish…BUT they do NOT get to force their beliefs on others. Roy Moore should be disbarred for what he did.

  • David

    Does he have his own Fox News show yet?

    No mater what happens, he’ll make millions riding the Wingnut-Welfare-Circut.

  • JTC

    I hope Roy Moore gets the boot, but I doubt it. What worries me the most is if he decides to run for governor and actually wins. I know people (some, at least) have said his chances of winning aren’t as high as we think they are, but folks had said the same thing about Gov. Bentley and look where he’s at now: running the state even further into the ground while groping his employee/lover’s breasts at work.

    • Jay George

      There is always that chance. The Democratic Party in Alabama is weak and lame and definitely part of the problem. The Republican Party is as corrupt as organized crime and probably get just about as rich so if they decided to install Moore, no doubt they’d find a way. To win in Alabama all you have to do is have and R behind your name and holler Jesus a few times to insure a win. :p Still, Moore isn’t popular with the power structure and they’re smarting after all the negative attention he has drawn to the state.

      • JTC

        The Democratic Party really is pathetic here, and don’t get me started on the corruption. Former House Speaker Mike Hubbard had his eyes set on higher office until he got undermined by the very same ethics laws he helped put in place. 😀

        • Jay George

          I know! 😀 That was such a happy day. Of course he’s still not in prison, but at least he’s out of office. I think the trouble that Hubbard and Bentley are in will hurt Roy Moore’s chances. The scandals in the top government offices have brought a lot of negative attention to Alabama and Moore comes with his own pre-set scandals so it’s got to hurt his chances with the repug party. It’s got to or we’ll all have to run away. 😉

  • SoCalGal20

    OT but I’m surprised there’s nothing here about Bernie and Hillary’s appearance in NH. It provided a nice change to the usual coverage on CNN during my lunch break. 🙂

    • Bruno

      CNN is covering Hillary when she’s not fainting or attacking tRump or otherwise talking about tRump? Fashizzle?

      • SoCalGal20

        New times! (also Bernie was with her)

  • JT

    Maybe they can give him imprisonment for contempt of court.

    • I’d pity the cell mate

      • Jay George

        Considering his own men tried to kill him in Viet Nam…

  • Silver Badger

    Of course he’s guilty. As far as punishment goes, while crucifixion seems harsh, it would send a stern message to other bigots.

    • madknits

      I’d like to bring back hanging, drawing, and quartering.

      • Mikey

        you have to salt and burn the remains or else they come back. I saw it on Supernatural.

  • bkmn

    When is the trial of Moore and his wife over their failed parenting?

  • Richard B

    Since this is Roy Moore’s second go round with being removed from the bench, maybe it is time to make the removal permanent and bar him from holding public office.

  • Moore has done this before: Engaged in legal malpractice by defying lawful U.S. federal court orders. The state of Alabama is not a sovereign nation. An Alabama gov’t official, no matter their office, has the legal authority to defy the laws and Constitution of the United States.

    Last time, it was a public display of one religion’s laws.

    This time, it’s for an even more serious offense, namely denying a SCOTUS-ordered recognition of a civil right vital for millions of Americans and vastly overstepping his authority.

    He should be removed from office and never allowed to serve again. Really, the state itself ought to impeach him, because every time, Moore’s defiant actions are wasting taxpayer money.

    • UrsusArctos

      Unfortunately he is the id of more than 1/2 of the people who actually vote in AL.
      I hope this is a cautionary tale for the “purist left”. Every vote sends a message and if you want to allow the deplorables’ message to carry the day sit 8 Nov. out or vote in a way that gets us all screwed.

      • j.martindale

        Yep. Deplorables on parade. Backwards, superstitious, ignorant, bigoted southern rednecks. Perfect fodder for tRump’s campaign.

        • UrsusArctos

          The YUGE problem is that “Backwards, superstitious, ignorant, bigoted … rednecks” aren’t limited to the south – see PA/IN/WI/MI/and others. *sigh*

    • Jay George

      He can’t run for Chief Justice again, but no doubt he will run for governor. He’ll lose, but if we can get rid of him this time, we may be done with him and he’ll have to become a televangelist instead.

      • D. J.

        Roy should star in Nat’l Geographic’s Snake Salvation – The Revival Edition. I wonder if the rattlesnakes will allow the show to make it to three seasons?

  • greenmanTN

    Mammy Yokum called and says it’s her turn to use the bottom tooth, and she’s making corn on the cob.

    http://femmesfatales.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341cfbd053ef01b8d0f4b704970c-800wi

  • AtticusP

    Meh.

    He’ll just be elected governor.

    We’re talking Alabama here.

    • UrsusArctos

      That’s his plan.

    • Friday

      Eh, if they really want to have a Dominionist take them from really bad to catastophically-worse, maybe that’s what it takes over there.

      • AtticusP

        Maybe some of them need to talk to the voters in Kansas.

        Brownback has killed THAT economy.

        Roy Moore is cut from the same cloth.

        • Jay George

          The economy in Alabama is already in ruins. The current right wing POS has seen to that.

    • Jay George

      Moore has run like what, three times? He has a cult following, but overall he isn’t liked in the state. They last protest the folks backing Moore were largely from out of state. He reels them in with that far right crazy religious group his wife runs.

  • shivadog

    “Moore did acknowledge in a testy cross-examination, however, that he told probate judges to follow the very same state court order that a federal judge specifically said they could no longer enforce.” He admitted his guilt. Case closed.

    • Clive Johnson

      Will this be sufficient to throw the bum off the court? I don’t have a high degree of confidence in our judicial system, I have to admit.

      • BearEyes

        I also don’t want to see him martyred either.

        • Jay George

          I’m okay with martyring him. Whatever it takes. 😉

          • olandp

            Martyrdom works for me.

          • Craig Howell

            Don’t go away a martyr. Just…go away.

        • Clive Johnson

          There’s that.

        • NedFlaherty

          Being martyred is to be burned to death by fire, like the Christians did, over several centuries, to thousands of people who did not share their religious superstitions.

          Being fired for being incompetent and unethical does not qualify anyone for martyrdom.

  • j.martindale
  • Cboulder

    What the fuck did the ” It’s Bear Bryant not Bare Back!”sign even mean. And did the douche that made it actually say he spent a lot of time on it? What the actual fuck?

    • Jay George

      And that’s what passes for humor in dumbass Redneckville. If you want to see an average Trump voter, there he be.

    • Igby

      I think it means use condoms big enough to fit a bear?

    • Is he saying football instead of gay sex?

  • david fairfield

    There’s a good chance he will be removed, he is not well liked by the panel. He can’t be taken seriously, and has always been showy and a hot head. But mostly it’s becoming painfully clear to bigoted politicians who want to create discriminatory laws that it makes them very unpopular…regardless of their wacko christian fan base.

  • John Kusters

    If he is removed, does anyone know if he can run again? I assume if he did, he’d be elected once again.

    • jmax

      Alabama has an age limit for justices and he will be past that age when the next election rolls around.

    • Bruno

      Many think he’s gearing up to run for governor.

      • david fairfield

        I’ve read that Bruno. I know he was welcomed back after the ten commandments debacle, but do you think there are still enough loons there to continue taking him seriously? I mean this was so blatantly bigoted and over the top that it’s hard to imagine that people don’t see him as an embarrassment…

        • olandp

          It is Alabama, yes there are enough loons, more than enough.

        • AJayne

          Even if something less than a majority supports him, those who do support him always vote – those against him don’t always…

    • I believe he is to old to run for the bench again.

  • Ninja0980

    He’ll be kicked off the court only to be elected governor.
    Got to “love” Alabama.

  • SFBruce

    I sincerely hope they remove Moore, even though his term is up in 2018, and he’ll be too old to run for the Alabama Supreme Court again. As other have pointed, out he’ll undoubtedly run for governor and use his ouster as proof godless liberals are out to ruin him. He’s right, but only because he’s everything a judge shouldn’t be.

  • JCF
  • BobSF_94117

    OK, I totally don’t get the Bear Bryant / bare back thing.

  • mentalalchemist

    If they take him off the court for a secoind time he will then become the next Governor of Alabama and rid our state government of these reprobates.