INSANITY: 20% Of LGBT Voters Support Trump

NBC News reports:

A large majority of registered LGBT voters support Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump, according to results of two weeks of the NBC News|SurveyMonkey Weekly Election Tracking Poll. Seventy-two percent of registered LGBT voters support Clinton, compared to 20 percent who support Trump.

On the campaign trail, Trump has touted himself as the better candidate to fight for LGBT rights, but his decision to pick Indiana Gov. Mike Pence as his running-mate was seen by some as contradictory to his LGBT-friendly claims.

When Libertarian Gary Johnson and Green Party candidate Jill Stein are added to the match-up question, Clinton still maintained the lead among registered LGBT voters with 63 percent support. Trump, on the other hand, had 15 percent support. Johnson was not far behind with 13 percent, followed by 8 percent support for Stein.

In past elections, LGBT voters have played an important role. According to results from the 2012 NBC News Exit Polls, 5 percent of voters identified as gay, lesbian or bisexual** and 76 percent voted for Barack Obama. Voters who did not identify as gay, lesbian or bisexual were split—49 percent voted for Obama and 49 percent voted for Romney.

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  • Rebecca Gardner
    • Friday

      Though in other polls Trump’s “LBGT support” has included … practically no queer women, go figure.

      • IamM

        I can mansplain that in at least two different ways:

        Psychological:
        People who face two or more different forms of discrimination may be less likely to rationalize supporting a bigot.

        Selection pressure:
        People who face two or more forms of discrimination and still rationalize bigotry may be less likely to be in any position to support a candidate.

        • You don’t see many black/latinx LGBT Trump supporters, do you? There are a few African American ones like Ben Carson, a few Latinos like the “taco truck” guy and a few GWM’s, and even a certain white trans woman of unknown sexuality. And of course, white Bible wives. And all are at a very nicely comfortable economic level. But you are right; no intersectionality.

          Gotta have some level of privilege-based superiority + some level of insecurity to buy into his ever-shifting rhetoric fantasy world.

          Maybe we queer women (& queer POC, & poor, non-white cishets, and so on) learn early that it’s futile to try to compete in that particular arena of stupid…

      • popebuck1

        Why should queer women find him any less repulsive than straight women do?

      • Kay

        Not too surprising. Queer women tend to be rather liberal. Trump is appealing to the working class, not the welfare class.

    • JT
      • Todd20036

        That was an oddly homoerotic scene

        • JT

          A lot of that going on in the film. The relationship between the Edward Norton and Brad Pitt characters is very homoerotic.

    • Alex

      I forgot the liberal thinking. Everyone with a different opinion is stupid, racist, and sexist. And you all wonder why 20% are voting for trump.

      • Jeffrey

        If you don’t understand why LGBT voting for Trump is stupid then you probably suffer from stupidity, yourself. Correction, those around you suffer from it.

        • JCF

          Killfile is your friend for this kind of (unregistered) Breitbart troll.

      • Friday

        Or….. Trump is what’s stupid, sexist, and racist, and you’re the one who thinks that’s “all different opinions.” ?

        • zhera

          “Science and Intelligent Design are equal theories!”

          • Phil2u

            I assume you are being facetious, hence the quotation marks.

          • zhera

            lol yes. Also, because it’s an absolute lie.

          • Todd20036

            Is “Intelligent Design” a synonym of “Ikea”?

          • TampaDink

            Making “faith” as important as an Allen wrench.

          • DaveW

            IKEA is cheap crap. Their driving design criterion is flatpack, to fit in a young couples hatchback. Antithesis of good design and stylishness.

          • omg did he say that?

          • zhera

            No. It’s just an example of the “logic” they use.

      • Joseph Miceli

        If you were voting for Trump you are stupid racist and sexist . If you can’t see that you are really stupid .

        • Todd20036

          … and racist.

      • DesertSun59

        Given that I know some of those Trump supporters I can absolutely guarantee you that you have no idea that the man is a con man and a charlatan. You are literally incapable of discerning that fact. That’s why you’re a Trump supporter.

      • Yes, it’s stupid to vote for a party that openly hates you. Read the platform, moron.

        • Octoberfurst

          I totally agree. At a recent arts fest I saw a young man with a
          “Twinks for Trump” t-shirt. I seriously considered stopping him and asking him why he would vote for a party that openly despises him. But I didn’t.

          • Was he cute?
            Sorry, don’t care. I’m a gay grrl. But I think he was just trying to catch your eye.

          • Octoberfurst

            Yeah he was cute but way too young for me. 😉

          • If he was wearing that at an event that was likely to have lots of gay people, he wanted you to come up and disparage him. He’s have martyrbated about that for weeks afterwards. It’s exactly what he wanted. It was just as well that you walked on by. What could you have said that others haven’t? He’s heard it and he loves the negative attention. I think it’s some sort of kink.

          • Octoberfurst

            Yeah there a lot of gay couples there. I think you are probably right. He was looking for negative attention.

          • David Walker

            Maybe they think if they can act this stupidly they’ll attract Milo’s attention. Because Milo is so cool.

      • SFHarry

        It’s interesting that rather than attack the idea that women are voting against their best interests by voting Republican as put forth in the comment you attack liberals. It’s pretty clear you agree with what was said.

        • Daveed_WOW

          Classic deflection. Aka “Change the conversation”

      • Oikos

        Down voted for abject stupidity.

        • Nowhereman

          And Alex called it himself/herself/

      • Blackfork

        20% are voting for Trump because they don’t READ, and what they do read they don’t comprehend. Hell, the fucking pictures make no sense to them, ya fuckin’ troll.

      • Voting for Trump is not a difference of opinion but an act of violence.

        • IamM

          Yes. And one against everything America is supposed to stand for.

          • DaveW

            Agreed it’s not left vs right. It’s acceptable vs not. I can get right thinking lgbt but this transcends that argument.

            Stubborn is a big part of it. Many normal cons I know (non religious, no. Tea thing) support him simply because they cannot admit a dem could be better. Also single issue folk like guns, death tax etc.

            I am vehemently against the death tax on moral grounds. Farms, estate homes that have appreciated, fully taxed accumulations-should not be subject to another tax. It’s immoral. I feel the same about taxing improved property. It’s done with after tax dollars!

            But vote for trump, Ryan, Cruz etc? There are more important issues than one immoral tax. Like scotus, theocracy, science, fairness, education.

            Why they don’t see this? Often simy too stubborn to even consider it

      • zhera

        Actually, yes.

        If you think that Trump is better than Clinton for the people in America, then you are indeed stupid, racist, and sexist. It’s called LIVING IN THE REAL WORLD.

      • JT

        Actually, any group with only 20% stupid members is very above average. Maybe you should wonder about that.

      • Phil2u

        The 20% appears to include few Lesbians. There is historical racism and misogyny among gay males. One would guess those men would identify with Trump.

      • Nowhereman

        100% of the racist, sexist and homophobic people are voting for him. Nuff said.

      • Jude Newton

        Why would I vote for a man who’s running mate wants me & my peers to burn in hell, hires the Heritage Foundation – an extreme Christian Group – to vet SCOTUS appointees – so the end goal is to invalidate marriage equality and keep LGBT people as second class citizens who can be legally denied employment, services, housing, adoption, taxes breaks, etc? Mmmm I wonder why I don’t support Donald Trump as President of the United States.

        • Chicago joe

          In admire your restraint. I was shouting your reply in my head with an enormously large font and two dozen fucking expletives.

      • karmanot

        “Everyone with a different opinion is stupid, racist, and sexist.” That’s right ( pardon the pun) how very prescient of you.

      • Falconlights

        That is because they are. The Rethuglicans want a Constitutional amendment that will effectively overturn Obergefell and laws that will institutionalize discrimination against LGBT. It isn’t enough that we have no federal protections.

        • Obergefell itself [the Ohio case] is an especially sad one for the info-deficient to complain about.
          No-nothings claim to “disagree with the lifestyle.”
          As if dead husbands have a lifestyle.
          :smh:

      • Carl

        “You don’t respect other people’s opinions!” If they’re patently ignorant opinions, of course I don’t.

      • RemusL

        Typical Trump supporter who is incapable of understanding that people with different opinions can still vote for Hillary. In other words, everyone with a different opinion is NOT stupid, racist and sexist but the ones who vote for Trump certainly are.

      • Daveed_WOW

        Correct. You are stupid, racist and sexist.

        • Cylux

          Apparently how you sit on a subway train counts as sexism, so imma pretty sure it is a matter of subjective opinion now.

          • Daveed_WOW

            A proud manspreader! I don’t know if it’s sexism, but it’s certainly rude. And assholish.

      • ShawnSwagger

        I know people supporting Trump want to pretend that there is another logical/coherent/arguable reason for it, but there just isn’t. Trump will be an economic catastrophe, and all the reputable economists say so. What little concrete, detailed economic plans he has unveiled will be noxious for the economy. Trump is boastfully, willfully ignorant of all matters of concern in U.S. foreign policy, and practically the entirety of the American diplomatic corps that has broken with tradition and spoken out has called him a diplomatic disaster. He knows nothing about defense, has repeatedly insulted the military and his defense and military “ideas” are the worst ever heard, from nuclear proliferation to extorting NATO allies. This is why almost all the former secretaries of state, including several Republicans, have said they will support Clinton. I could go on and on and on, but it’s already been done. All these things and many more have been widely reported in the printed press for over a year now, though they never get much attention with the 24-hour news channels. So there really is nothing left except pure racism. It’s just the ideology of white nationalism is all it is: that’s the only consistent and logical reason to vote for Trump, if you believe in that ideology.

        The economic false alibi for voting Trump is especially ridiculous. It has been shown that racism and racist attitudes are the best indicator by far of whether or not a potential voter will be supporting Trump. Nobel prize winning economist Paul Krugman has done an excellent dissection of this, several times:
        http://thedailybanter.com/2016/08/krugman-racism-indicator-of-trump-supporter/
        http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/13/paul-krugman-explains-drives-gop-establishment-support-trump.html

        So just drop the pretense. NOBODY IS FOOLED about why you’re really voting for Trump.

    • Blackfork

      Took the words right outta my mouth.

    • ColdCountry

      I can hear the excuse by some of the older generation. “Oh, well, I’m not important, I vote Republican for the Greater Good.” For how many centuries have women been told They Don’t Matter? A lot of them believe that, still.

      • If someone is raised to only know one way of seeing the world, and taught that all other ways are not just bad, but “false”, it is really, really difficult to even recognize that any other way of thinking is actually possible…

      • Brianna Amoré
        • good shot green

          Any reference to the totes adorbs Simon Pegg gets an upvote.

      • BobSF_94117

        I would wager that the older generation is NOT where these Trump voters are coming from. (Not that I believe 20% of gay people support Trump.)

        • ColdCountry

          I was thinking of the women who vote republican, and the generations of brainwashing that women have gone through. Most Trump supporters, as near as I can tell, are coming out from under rocks and rotten logs.

          • BobSF_94117

            That may hold for a lot of straight, older women, but I was referring to the supposed 20% of gay people. I don’t know many brainwashed lesbians 🙂

    • perversatile
      • JCF
      • Johnson

        The 20 percent that support Trump do it for one reason and one reason only: MONEY. They couldn’t give a Rat’s Ass about the working class, only about maintaining their self-centered, hedonistic lifestyle.

        • perversatile

          I don’t think you’re stupid and I don’t think you’re damaged, but you are an asshole ,and you don’t have to. In the morning, first thing, look in the mirror and say out loud “Today I’m not going to be a dick”’ Then find one positive quality you possess , and by the end of this week let another person see that quality. An easy first baby step.
          Unless you are getting paid, there are no benefits to being such an awful person . You don’t even have t be a ‘nice. Just stop being a dick.

      • Sirdirkfan

        But it was decided that there are no white supremacists, they are black.
        Whites agreed.

        • perversatile

          People that huff paint do all kinds of crazy shit,
          but it’s nothing to brag about.

      • NancyP

        No idea who Ijeoma is, but she’s +10e6 in that post

        • perversatile

          That’s ok- I had to look up 10e6! 😄

    • TK

      Spot on! I think a majority of people assume members of our LGBTQ community are automatically “liberals” and “radical liberals”.. because of sexual orientation, being outside of the “norm” (WTF is that??) and in general have an alternative view of things. Well, clearly that’s not true. Though I am appalled that anyone in the LGBTQ ranks would possibly think voting for the fascist, neo-nazi, white supremacist Trump is a good idea. Not just for their interests, but for anyone in this country – or the world. Like you said Rebecca – stupid has no boundaries. Scary.

  • Lazycrockett

    Hey the gay gene doesn’t come with the smart gene sometimes.

    • ColdCountry

      And with some, their bigotry overwhelms their self-interest.

      • Right. We shouldn’t discount that there are gay people who are very racist or sexist or xenophobic.

        • Dean

          My ex. I am stunned by his transition into a total asshole.

          • Maybe he was always an asshole but you didn’t see it especially if you were getting regular sex. That’s not judging, btw. We’ve ALL been there. It’s also possible that he hid his assholery from you. Some people are very good at that, at least for awhile.

      • CottonBlimp

        That’s sort of always been the point of bigotry. Racist white trash votes away the welfare they depend on just so black “moochers” can’t get any.

        I hope to high heaven that one day white people clue in to the fact that white supremacy is just a con that gets them to turn on their non-white brothers and support the people who fuck them over.

  • Michael R
  • Larz

    I’d like to read some LGBT voter’s reasons to favor Trump.

    • Michael Smith

      Money money money money

      • IamM

        More like: Dumb dumb dumb, so dumb.

    • John T

      Racism racism racism racism

    • Friday

      Afraid of committment? 🙂 Tired of their fucktoys showing self-respect? 🙂

    • Joseph Miceli

      They will just lie . I am personally acquainted with two gay men both of whom support trump . Both of them keep talking about jobs and how Trump will bring more of them . Strange how both of them are white and both of them are racist as all hell . I’m sure that’s just a coincidence .

    • SFHarry

      My guess is that the Trump campaign does not seem to be extremely anit-gay and these people are probably extremely self servings and have very little empathy towards others so they discount or ignore any negativity directed at other groups and vote just as the rest of the ignorant Trump voters do.

    • SFHarry

      I believe for much of the electorate voting is just one big football game. You are raised with a team, you support your team and have many relationships and experiences being associated with that team. Your family has always identified as supporting the team and to continue being part of your family and to strengthen that bond you continue to identify with the team. It doesn’t really matter what the team stands for or how it preforms you still support them and you don’t question why, you just do. It makes you feel loyal and connected without ever really having to think why.

      • Vista-Cruiser

        There is some of that. The problem is that with an election, real people can be permanently harmed by the result. Look for example, at how people all over the world fared when George W. Bush was president.

        • SFHarry

          Oh, I agree with you completely. I just don’t think people think about it enough or can actually see the connection between who is president and what happens to them.

  • Nausea

    They can’t wait for the Trump appointees to the Supreme Court to take away the moderate gains we have made over the last several years. Let’s face it, we are horrible and don’t deserve equality! Thank goodness someone is going to make us pieces of trash again!

  • KQCA

    Would be interesting to see the stats on the 20%. It probably consists of uneducated backwoods types and those in the wealthy white boys’ club.

    • Friday

      It’s probably about half fake accounts from the Log Cabinboys and Brietbart. 🙂

      • KQCA

        Good point.

        • Someone this morning (last night?) was trolling Jon Aravosis pretending to be a Democrat but kept using Democrat as an adjective (which only right wingers do). They really are that tone deaf and stupid.

          • good shot green

            Right-wingers and Perdon’t.

      • I wonder what the overlap is with those two groups…

    • Joseph Miceli

      I know two gay assholes were voting for Trump . Both of them say it’s because he’ll bring jobs back . I’m sure it’s just a coincidence that they hate black people .

    • Yixing’s Fluffer

      All of Milo’s sock puppets.

  • fuow

    Well, there were Jews for Hitler, too.
    For a while.

  • abel

    It’s just like the Jews who supported Hitler. SHAME on them. Forever! There is NO excuse for such ignorance. Of course, I suppose gays can be racist idiots too.

    • KQCA

      I just did a quick Google search for “racist closeted antigay leaders” so I could include a pic with a reply to your comment.
      My god the search results were overwhelming.

  • Elsewhere1010

    A large percentage (20%) support Trump. A large majority supporting Trump would have to be well over the 50% mark.

    A large minority of LGBT voters support Trump. NBC has fucked up its lead sentence — again.

    • This seems to be a news story every four years when low information citizens are shocked to discover that about 1/4 of gay people are Republicans, just like they have been since anyone bothered to poll that question. Trump is no worse on gay issues that W was.

      • Falconlights

        REALLY? You want him to be able to tamper with marriage equality and what rights and protections we have been able to get in various states/communities. The fact that he may be no worse than W is no reason to vote for him.

        • That wasn’t my point at all. I didn’t vote for W either time and I sure as fuck wouldn’t vote for Trump OR cast a so-called protest vote that my allow him to win. No fucking way.

          My point is that W got 25% of the gay vote even in 2004 running on a platform calling for a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage AND with Karl Rove engineering anti-gay ballot initiatives in key states to drive Evangelical voter turnout. If gay people would vote for that, it’s surprising that they would finally be upset with Trump. I suspect, however, that over the past 12 years it’s demographic changes, not changes of heart that have lowered the percentage of gay Republicans in this poll. Younger people who couldn’t vote in 2004 are less likely to be Trump supporters. I’d like to see a breakdown of the numbers.

          Honestly I don’t know how any gay person is still a Republican. They’ve been openly hostile to us for years. But having talked to gay Republicans it’s clear that they have a pathological loathing of anything liberal (which now would include most Republicans from before 1980). I think 15% may be the floor. There really are that many gay people who would throw us all under the bus for a tax cut (especially inheritance tax).

          • Falconlights

            I apologize. I misunderstood.

    • Traxley Launderette

      My anecdotal experiences would put the 20% into one of two categories:

      Affluent, self-obsessed, and greedy;

      or

      Rural, uneducated, and bigoted.

      So… not unlike the rest of the country.

    • JulieBL

      Just remember the guy who shot his Arab (Lebanese) neighbor a couple weeks ago? Neighbor wasn’t even Muslim. Shooter was “gay”, and dumb as a box of rocks.

  • joe ho

    survey monkey is another crap poll.

  • Friday

    I dunno, here, considering ‘online poll.’

  • John T

    I’ve encountered gays who are sub-average intelligence, hate brown immigrants with passion, are totally terrified of terrorism all the time, have a fetish for handguns, and have a kink for getting degraded and called “faggot”. Obviously Trump is the perfect candidate for them.

    • DesertSun59

      There you go. That’s part of the demographic.

    • BobSF_94117

      You wouldn’t happen to have their numbers…

      • John T

        1-900-GOP-JIZZ

        • BobSF_94117

          Put that way… never mind.

  • jim

    hi joe

    great picture of drumpf you posted

    looks pervy, smug, and really dumb simultaneously

    also looks like a cross between a frog and an orange jabba the hutt

    and there are gay people voting for a frorange hutt?

    I used to think so highly of us

    jim

    • Friday

      I really don’t trust those ‘Surveymonkey’ polls anyway, they’ve been outliers when I’ve noticed them all along.

  • KQCA

    Not surprising. Lots of people hang their hope on any devious chance to attain power, even if it means selling out the lover in their own bed. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/913f56418ed1884945e1fca65ac4f48c9e77788b1ba976d37cc1ea05c53bdfeb.jpg

    • Friday

      They’d also have to be pretty dumb to think they’d get any of *that* out of Trump, themselves. Even the money excuse is pretty thin considering what happens to those who do *business* with the guy.

    • Yixing’s Fluffer

      “Trump’s promised me a steady stream of undocumented twinks. How could you NOT vote for him?!”

    • Or maybe he gets off on fucking someone who he can then arrest. That’s one fucked-up shitstain right there. Who knows what twisted shit goes on in his pea-brain.

    • Falconlights

      So very well said.

  • bkmn

    I’d like to know more about their methodology and see if the results can be repeated by other pollsters.

  • PLAINTOM

    I never would have thought that large a % of white nationalists self identified as gay.

    • Sadly there are a lot of racist gay people, just like there are homophobes among racial minorities. You’d think we’d all know better, but alas, no. Some people see any advancement of another group as taking something away from them.

  • Richard

    No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.

    – H.L. Mencken

  • LADY MABELINE

    Show me the the money

    • Friday

      They’d be pretty dumb to expect Drumph’s promises of *money* to apply to them, too.

  • JT

    OT, or not. Maybe the 20% crazy LGBT people will be happy to patronize this homophobic cab company in Portland (Portland Taxi):

    PORTLAND, Ore. — A Portland man says a
    taxi driver pulled out a bull horn and yelled anti-gay slurs at him and
    his friends outside a bar this week.

    KATU News also reached out to the company and was told the driver was
    exercising his First Amendment rights and there would be no disciplinary
    action. They ended the call by telling our reporter: “If the gays don’t
    want to use our company, that’s better for us.”

    http://katu.com/news/local/portland-taxi-driver-yells-anti-gay-slurs-outside-bar

    Sensible LGBT people beware.

    • William

      Mooning is considered free speech or expression, people should moon the taxi driver.

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        What about Frontal mooning ?

        • CottonBlimp

          Save that for marriage.

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      Moron is looking to get fined and get in on those “Help, they’re persecuting me for my bigotry” dollars.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Oregon#Discrimination_protections

  • Mark Neé Fuzz

    Are they true Trump supporters, or from the Bernie-or-bust I’d rather cut off my nose to spite my face crowd?

    • Traxley Launderette

      Both, I’m guessing.

    • SFHarry

      The only reason I can imagine is that their logo is so pretty.

      • William

        They get to wear hideous golf pants.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      I’d actually understand complete apathy with the political system but it’s the actually voting against oneself actively that makes me stare.

    • zhera

      Greed.

      • AndyinChicago

        I bet that’s the majority of it, and those people deserve our contempt and loathing. But I think there’s also a large percentage that are doing it looking for approval from their hateful family members. I think there are those foolish enough to say, if I show people who rejected me I’m also capable of such cruelty, maybe they will see that we are the same. And I think people like that really deserve our sympathy and concern, because if our side shows those people that they will never be accepted and their hate only causes their further pain, we can help those people.

        I think there’s also a huge bloc of people who have lived in large cities and are from wealthy families who have never encountered anti-LGBT sentiment. They think that discrimination IS over and that people ARE asking for special treatment. I think that trying to talk to them and getting them to see that not everyone is as lucky might reward in dividends.

        That said. There are those who are just greedy. And there are those incapable of empathy. And there are those who hate themselves so much that hate is all they can express. And while I think we have a right to be angry at most of that 20%, I think there is a portion of those who deserve our pity and our patience.

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      $$$$$$$$$ + Racism + Sexism

  • LADY MABELINE

    That’s just weird.

  • Joe in PA

    RE: Pence …seen by some as contradictory….

    Ya think? Talk about the understatement of 2016. 🙁

  • Leo

    It’s probably not just your stereotypical white rich Log Cabin type but quite a few bitter no-Bernie-well-burn-it-down types mixed in with poor rural gays w/o a college degree whose cynicism and racial resentment helps them ignore any possibility of a tipped Supreme Court, among other things. I’d be interested to find out more specifics.

    • Traxley Launderette

      I’m sure there are a few bitter gay berners mixed in there.

      Some of us do have a penchant for drama and feuding…

  • Jeffrey

    Some of those morons are Bernie Bros and some of them are wealthy and some of them are backwoods retards. But none of them are people I’d want to know.

    • SoCalVet

      I was unfriended by two bernie bro friends who claimed I was part of the “2%.” Guess they were afraid to claim 1%. One of them came back and one of them is lost forever and I am sure he won’t be voting for Hillary. He’s a millennial who has never held a real job and is sure he should be able to make it on his untrained and mediocre hobby. (in actuality, I believe my husband and I are probably in the 20-30%…LOL)

      • One of these Bernie Bros is my ex who is seven years my senior. He recently exclaimed that racism and sexism didn’t matter and that people who don’t want to live in tiny houses are the real racist (yep he said that.) So it’s not all millennials.

        • SoCalVet

          we lived in an 800 sq ft house for 10 years so I would think we would qualify, but no, we’re still part of the problem apparently!

        • Wait. Maybe I still haven’t had enough coffee but what does not wanting to live in a tiny house have to do with being racist??? I think I may need a translation from BernieBro to English.

          • I have no idea. I stop trying to make sense of him a few months after we broke up.

        • Mark

          A tiny house is racist?? Must be the white shingles…..

      • JesterRedPanda

        I really don’t like it when people round up all millennials and say we are all lazy, entitled, and unable to get a real job.

        Its not like there was a nation wide recession or anything with the large majority of new jobs since then being low paying service jobs ¬_¬

        And to clarify, i have a full time, full benefits work from home job. I am also admittedly one of the luckier ones.

        • SoCalVet

          Sorry I didn’t mean to imply that his behavior or anything is because he is a millennial but I guess that is part of the cliche. Sorry!

  • another_steve

    Look at the (low, but there) numbers of African Americans and Hispanics who say they’re going to vote for Trump.

    There’s insanity in the world. Truly.

    • Friday

      The corporate media’s also generally been cooperating with the Trump claims to not be anti-LGBT in spite of his virulently anti-LGBT staff, words, and promises to the Christian Right and Putin, while of course saying ‘Just you and all Muslim-Americans fight and this is me helping you.’

      • Trump isn’t that anti-gay himself. That’s why he outsourced those duties to Pence.

        • SoCalVet

          that’s what I suspect.

        • Friday

          He’s proposed nothing but anti-LGBT laws, policies, judges, subordinates, cabinet members, preachers, endorsements, right-wing extremists, etc etc. Whether or not the sociopathic narcissist ‘really means it’ isn’t terribly relevant, really.

          • IamM

            Yeah, if someone’s willing to throw people under a literal bus to get votes then saying they wouldn’t do it if it didn’t get votes doesn’t make them a good person.

          • Because he’s not an Evangelical (Two Corinthians???) he would have to pander extra hard for four years to appease them if he wanted to be re-elected so yes he would be worse than recent Republicans on gay rights whether he personally gives a crap about gay issues or not.

          • Friday

            Not that the Christianists and media don’t bend over backwards to sanctify the guy.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      I listened to a Latina on NPR who said she was voting for Trump because Jeebus and abortion. I kid you not. It plainly didn’t matter to her that his base thinks she’s not even human. I also listened to a woman who ran a charity, ADMITS that Democratic Party is better at funding & outreach to her clientele and STILL votes for Trump because Jeebus.

      I’m sorry but often it seems religion = brain damage.

      • Chucktech

        “Religion poisons everything.”

        • good shot green

          “A sickness at the heart of our species.”

    • BobSF_94117

      Some people are just so sick of polling, they mess with the pollsters for fun.

      • another_steve

        It can also be online malevolence by homophobes pretending to be gay. There’s a lot of that.

        Remember the purported gay person taking credit for the Chelsea bombing?

  • JustSayin’

    More proof our group, lgbt people, are just like the rest of Americans. We can be idiotic assholes too.

    • HZ81

      Amen. And I take no pleasure in it, but we are just like everybody else in some regards.

  • PickyPecker
    • KQCA

      OMG! PickyPecker picks the most prolifically perfect pictorial posts.

    • good shot green

      All “Bob’s Burgers” references get my upvote.

  • Gerry Fisher

    Any movement from Clinton to Johnson makes absolutely no sense to me. As misguided as is a move from Clinton to Stein, I get it.

    • Friday

      Libertarians who aren’t just even more right-wing than the GOP claim that somehow if *they* removed all civil rights protection and social programs it would somehow instantly become Utopian meritocratic paradise, unlike when Republicans do their damndest to do all the same things.

      Like somehow if you did the exact same things for somewhat different motivations, the results would be different.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        They completely ignore the 1950s Jim Crow laws and the Gilded Age. People had slaves for most of history and it took a huge war to end that in the 19th century here. I wish libertarians would confess that they ALWAYS imagine that they come up on top instead of being a wage slave who loses a hand and ends up eating out of a dumpster because there’s no welfare or workers’ comp until they die of infection.

        • Friday

          Yeah, and that for their ‘ideals’ to even be tested, they’d *actually* kind of have to reset everything and ‘redistribute wealth’ first: otherwise it’s like taking away all the laws after a small minority already *has* almost everything, not somehow a way that merit would prosper and whatnot.

    • SoCalGal20

      Johnson smokes pot and promotes legalization. Therefore, he must be as cool about everything else, right? And…that’s as far as some people get in their analysis.

  • Sam_Handwich

    Romney won 23% of the ‘gay vote’ according to exit polls.

    The real “insanity” here is the 3rd party creeps keeping Hillary under the 70+% Obama won

    • Ross

      Obama wasn’t 70+% until the last few weeks of his elections.

  • KQCA

    I have an idea. Let’s take our own poll here.

    • William

      Hillary.

  • Spongebob CrankyPants

    How is 20% a large majority of voters?

    • JustSayin’

      It does not say that. Read the article again.

  • DesertSun59

    Pareto’s Law in action?

    Regardless, I know some of those gay Trump supporters. They seem perfectly normal until you start talking politics. Then you discover that they are literally completely uninformed about the man. They are simply attracted to his bluster.

    • William

      Some guys like shiny things.

      • Mark

        I saw some guy’s shiny cock ring roll across the dance floor once. Nobody would claim it.

        • ByronK

          A game of ring toss gone wrong?

          • Mark

            excessive product shrinkage…

  • In the 4-way race (which is what the ballot will actually be) Trump is at 15%. I know that’s insane but it’s significantly down from the 23-25% Republicans usually get. 15% may be the absolute floor for gay Republican support. If you’ve never talked to a homocon (and if you haven’t…lucky you) they HATE liberals and HATE Democrats. They would literally vote for someone promising to put them personally to death over a Democrat. So while this sounds nuts, it is less support than Republicans usually get from gay voters. It’s batshit crazy but then so are homocons.

    • Jmdintpa

      you are spot on with the fact the would vote for execution rather vote democrat. they are warped hard hard hard

  • HZ81

    I guess we have to face the reality of sexism and racism in our community.

  • Do Something Nice

    There has always been gays supporting Republicans. Commenter Wayne seem to be supporting Romney over Obama, but I think he voted for Johnson. I don’t know how blog master John Aravosis voted, but he worked for Ted Stevens. And then there is the quisling nutcase Peter Thiel. You don’t have to look far to find racist/Republican gays.

    • Mark

      Thiel seems to be one of those who – no matter how you fuck him – he’s never satisfied. Neither are you.

      • Do Something Nice

        You don’t know me, but carry on with your personal insults. They are a good reflection of who you are.

        • Mark

          I meant no insult to you. Not at all. I think the confusion may be in the use of the word “you”. I meant “you” as in the general plural thing. My apologies if it wasn’t delivered well.

          (Changed it to remove the you’s)

          • Do Something Nice

            I shouldn’t have been so quick to judge. I do try to give the benefit of the doubt, but I often fail.

            Thanks for responding!

          • Mark

            no prob….and maybe someday….if you ever find yourself in texas….holler and we can both get the hell out! 🙂

  • Jmdintpa

    what i would like to see is how many of them are white males. gay or not , escaping from alabamastan i can tell you they teach the hatred hard there. it takes a lot to try and leave it behind… many just cant. they love there money there priviledge more than themselves. they were taught to since your gay your self worth is nothing. they have none. and when they vote for him they are the traitors.

    • Friday

      Other polls (Which didn’t give those kind of numbers: Surveymonkey online polls are usually outliers) …actually showed nearly no support for Trump from LGBT women. I doubt that factor’s changed.

      • Mark

        girls…it’s not nice to gloat….

  • Allan_in_SF

    If you vote for Trump, you have to give your toaster back.

  • Mark

    Aw shit. Stupid now comes in pink.

  • bob

    A gay former co worker has made several FB posts praising trump. He actually got angry at another friend when he posted an article about trump shady business deals in Atlantic City. He also is one who boycotts Target. I believe he’s just another self hating homocon who likes to suck dick !

    • Lakeview Bob

      Bigotry and racism are alive and well in the gay community. It just sickens me.

      • ByronK

        No segment of society has a lock on those things. At TO Pride there was a BLM protest and in the fallout I had several friends comment that they were shocked at the comments being posted by friends. It brought out the dark underside of racism in the community and it wasn’t pretty.

  • Oikos
  • DaddyRay

    A few years back I had the hots for this guy Steve. Everything was going great until the 3rd date when the subject turned to politics and I found out he was a Tea Partier. Dumped him immediately, there is no talking reason with them

    • ByronK

      I met someone online a few years ago and the discussion turned to books. He told me what he was reading, I looked it up, and it was some diatribe by a Teabagger. I immediately said, well nice chatting but this isn’t even worth a coffee date because ethically and morally, I wouldn’t be caught dead in the same room as you. Byeeee.

  • Sam_Handwich
    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      I notice with irritation the media has on the whole been endorsing her while still doing shittily when it comes to actually calling Trump out.

  • Bill Post
  • NMNative

    Gay or straight, you can’t fix stupid.

  • I bet you if we broke these numbers by race, gender, trans, and income, it’s mostly one type of LGBT that votes trump.

    • edrex

      well one of them is Caitlyn.

  • Ross

    Queers for Donnie?

    Well, there were Jews for Hitler, too.

    Oh, and Donnie is FAR from the 270 Electoral votes needed to win. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/598fdfef92cb95c4ca924114fbb4cd542b084973fe2ed3ff22d8f9fe5f62237c.png

  • LeeCMH

    The statistics stand to reason. Gay people do come from all walks-of-life and points-of-view.

    Roy Cohn, Senator McCarthy’s lawyer was gay.

    Just because someone is gay does not necessarily predict they support gay political issues.

  • The Professor

    I think it’s the really rich ones. They care more about their money than their community.

    • Ross

      If they are rich, they are also stupid.

      Smart rich knows Donnie will tank the economy.

      • LeeCMH

        True. The Wall Street, 1%, republicans are not supporting Trump. They are putting their vast sums of money in the congressional races.

      • Wealth has never reward people with the ability to think critically

    • Joseph Petrella

      please explain how you arrived at the conclusion that 20 percent of all LGBT voters are “really rich?”

      in total we make up about five percent of the US population, 20 percent of five is one, and not even one percent of all americans are “really rich” by objective standards. now, if your subjective opinion of “really rich” means the 20 percent then that is anyone in a household which makes more than $135K a year…that’s, like, half of gay men in new york and san francisco.

      • The Professor

        I meant the % that has enough money to think a GOP President whose tax plan demonstrably helps the rich would be the ones voting for him against the betterment of their own community.

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      I suspect Trump is popular with all white male temporarily embarrassed millionaires and racists whether they’re gay or straight.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/316495bef07c3546e5b197e6f1b445fecdff387e498c3ca85462c99b57406a35.jpg

  • Nowhereman

    Good grief! Yeah–vote for the guy who admires Putin and whose supporters would like to throw you off the roof of the nearest Trump hotel. The word “fool” is too good for you. Get some counseling!

  • zhera

    Repeating myself here:

    Reasons for voting can be divided into two groups: Fear, and greed. Subgroups are plentiful but those are the main reasons.

    Sane people fear Trump and his fascism, so they’ll vote Blue no matter who. Racists fear not being top dog, so they’ll vote Republican and Trump.

    Greed is pretty much self-explanatory.

  • worstcultever

    I find this bullshit. Then again, there’s always gonna be a handful of jews for hitler.

    Also – I don’t really re-post my comments from elsewhere, especially long-ass ones, but feel like re-posting this:

    I just had a conversation with my dear neighbor, a 48-y.o. (straight, family man) white guy who cuts my grass and is as kind and decent a person as you could find anywhere. Really the kind of person you treasure as a neighbor. So imagine how my heart sank when a Trump sign appeared in his yard a couple months ago. It has bugged the shit out of me. It’s like your kid turning to scientology or something.

    Anyway so we’re small-talking, then he starts saying stuff about the world, I sense he wants to talk more broadly, and I say, “ok – so when are we going to have the Trump conversation” – and we did. Turns out he’s not all-in for Trump like the deplorable cultists, he’s just properly pissed like any sensible person and has been propagandized by the machine.

    Such a mixed bag of views with this guy – hates Obamacare (but wishes for Canadian system! – good!), thinks Hillary is too awful & corrupt to ever vote for (but likes Bill and would vote for him (must say that one really blew my mind), couldn’t disagree with my observation that Trump is not mentally stable, in fact folded like a cheap suit at the couple obvious horrible/ridiculous/unacceptable things about Trump I pointed out.

    Basically I took it down to the maniacal greed of the 1% destroying all the kindness and decency we used to know and pitting us plebs against each other like lab rats. It was a really good convo. I know I poked some holes in the nonsense koolaid he’s been fed. Also I made a point of listening more than talking.

    He might still vote for Fuhrer, but he might actually think, and at least I did something.

    Despite the sensationalized media picture, I suspect any number of these Trump people can be talked to (at least people like this guy, who aren’t invested in the racism and sexism mania). The key to connection is keeping it gentle, friendly, and commonsensical.

    • Vista-Cruiser

      Thank you for your work. Every bit helps.

  • RainbowPhoenix

    Some of us are idiots. It’s not much different than how many supported previous republican candidates.

  • Ross

    A friend of mine is a Trump supporter. Yes, I know.

    He is white, educated, and gay.

    So, why?

    He hates government, and believes that Donnie will destroy the government.

    I asked: “Ahh. OK. But what next?”

    He looked at me confused.

    I repeated: “After the government collapses, SOMETHING will replace it. And history shows that this is normally NOT a good thing.”

    My friend just continued staring at me. To him, it is simple: Government = bad. Solution = Donnie.

    What Next simply does not occur to him.

    People terrify me sometimes.

    • Jude Newton

      That is terrifying.

      • Ross

        I know! And when I also told my friend that if the government collapsed, his social security would never materialize when he retired.

        He got REALLY angry!

        “But that is MY money! I paid into all these years!”

        I smiled, and said: “You are the one who wants the government to collapse. Have you ever heard of the phrase: beware off what you wish for?”

        • Chucktech

          For someone ostensibly “educated,” he sounds pretty fucking dumb.

          • Jerry

            Regurgitating facts is not necessarily educated…which entails critical thinking after you learn the facts.

        • Cylux

          “his social security would never materialize when he retired.”

          It won’t materialise if the money is all spent either.

    • SoCalGal20

      I figure we’ll have nuclear armageddon in 6 months won’t it won’t matter much, but still. Your friend may be educated but he’s an idiot.

    • LeeCMH

      Your report the person is educated. Your friend does not appear to be using critical thinking.

      Often “educated” means the ability to memorize information, then regurgitate on tests.

    • Elsewhere1010

      Tell him to look up some dates, starting with 1791 (beginning of the French Reign of Terror) and 1921 (the beginning of the Stalinist purges).

      The counter-revolutionaries executed were the middle and upper class counter-revolutionaries — anyone with enough intelligence to opposed the government. You can ask your friend how much collateral damage, measured in deaths, potentially in the tens of thousands, he finds acceptable.

      In the event of actual revolution or regime change, he will not be one of the people getting up the next morning and going to work as if nothing has happened.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      Sorry, but after reading your comment I feel the need to make a correction. Your friend may be white and gay, but educated? not by the sounds of it.

      • Ross

        He really is dazzlingly smart and informed.

        He is also a total idiot when it comes to politics. I suspect alcoholic parents didn’t help.

        Yes, it’s all rather weird.

  • SoCalGal20

    Yeah, I saw that last night. Talk about voting against your own self interests. Then again, just watch the documentary ‘Outrage’ about all the gay Republicans in Washington (and that was back in 2009!) and I guess it shouldn’t be a surprise.

  • j.martindale
    • Silver Badger

      Thanks for the link.

  • there are black drumpf supporters; some of them are my neighbors. it’s astounding in its own way, but otoh, not really. it’s no surprise to me at all, that for probably a weird mix of both different and similar reasons, there are gay drumpf supporters. hispanic, jewish, poor, whatever… none of those groups and more have any good reason to support drumpf, not in a “what will he do for me?” sense. but up to 25% of them might.

    that said, this whole campaign has been one long example in Fail by the DNC et al. people like to bitch about how drumpf gets zillions in free media, given how he hasn’t actually raised enough to buy any? there’s a mirror flip there, wrt to HRC, who certainly doesn’t seem broke as a campaigner. i live in a “battleground” state, and gosh, it’s almost like no one else is paying for daytime tv. you’d think for that much of an effort, she’d be clearly in the 60s or higher right now.

    i will continue to blame the DNC way more than HRC. the DNC is where the “message” is formed, and from there, all dems are supposed to stick to it. the message sucks. and was created by obviously insulated, naive people who don’t really understand “flyoverland” voters at all. every four years they need us, they come and tell us what to think and not to believe our lying eyes… and then they go back to bubble world, NYC/DC/LA. you know, where the Money is.

    trustafarian media children: here’s a hint: if you slap a bitch, and maybe steal her rent money, and then pretend like you’re not the father of her child? don’t be surprised when she doesn’t stand up for you when you need it. and know that people who actually have had to use “the system” know how much you are full of crap when you pretend to understand “the system.” if anything, your kind of wishy talk only suppresses the vote HRC really should be getting, “naturally,” against such a fascist opponent.

    there was a reason Bernie went from being a “also ran” below 5% no media attention candidate to an actual threat to HRC. go on, blast me personally, tell me what a looser i am, etc, for bringing up a central observation to that phenom. which is simply: the DNC insider message motivates exactly no new voters, minority voters, and worst of all? it actually drives some “low information” types (look it up if you don’t know it) into the arms of the fascist demagogue. no one is to blame except for the overpaid, self-important message crafters who can only shit on real economic populists and the harsh solutions they propose, but would actually work. oh, and turn out lots of new and young voters.

    sigh.

  • Jay Silversmith

    They must all be fond of gold spray paint on everything.

  • Chitown Kev

    And water is wet….1/5 to 1/4 of LGBT voters have supported the Republican ever since they started polling this stat (starting in 1992)…we’ll see what the exit polling says…and I think we can probably develop some decent hypothesis on various other characteristics of this 20%.

  • ByronK

    I was thinking about this yesterday and for most informed and politically aware people such as this community, it is easy to forget that the majority of the multitudes are in fact low information voters who suckle on soundbites and whatever reinforces their disposition. That’s why Drumpf can still hit the poll numbers he is while lying out his ass and making outrageously offensive and idiotic comments. I don’t want to even imagine what it would take to knock these people out of their complacency. Just the percentage of people who actually vote is depressing in itself.

    • John T

      “Low-information” is bullshit. Everybody is drowning in information. Low-information has become a euphemism for racism, bigotry, and burn-it-all-down white nonsense.

      • ByronK

        I agree that it can be used as an excuse for those things but I’m continually shocked by the number of people I meet who don’t read newspapers, who don’t watch the news except in passing, and who claim they are too busy to pay attention to “all that stuff”. That of course is largely a fault of the complacent media who continue to feed them whatever soundbites will earn clicks and a viewer.

        • LeeCMH

          A person consuming information should also be able to judge a source’s quality, compare alternatives, evaluate crediblity, etc.

          • ByronK

            But many don’t or rather can’t. Media literacy has become an essential skill that few are taught.

          • Homo Erectus

            If your only new source is Fox – well, there you go!

  • Taylor

    Here’s what the Republican 2016 Platform says about SSM.

    “Traditional marriage and family, based on marriage between one man and one woman, is the foundation for a free society and has for millennia been entrusted with rearing children and instilling cultural values. We condemn the Supreme Court’s ruling in United States v. Windsor, which wrongly removed the ability of Congress to define marriage policy in federal law. We also condemn the Supreme Court’s lawless ruling in Obergefell v. Hodges, which in the words of the late Justice Antonin Scalia, was a “judicial Putsch” — full of “silly extravagances” — that reduced “the disciplined legal reasoning of John Marshall and Joseph Storey to the mystical aphorisms of a fortune cookie.”

    The platform wants a Constitutional Amendment to overturn Obergefell v Hodges.

    The platform wants to make it legal to be able to discriminate against gay people, based on religious reasons. Including doctors and hospitals, & adoption agencies.

    The platform wants to discourage adoption by same sex couples!

    The platform wants to make “conversion therapy” legal for minors.

    Any gay person who supports a presidential candidate that has signed on to this platform…is either self-loathing, or simply dumber than a rock.

    http://qz.com/738299/reminder-this-is-the-republican-partys-platform-on-lgbt-rights/

  • Michael Hampton

    There are dumb and self loathing gay people in the country? What??!

  • Silver Badger

    Self hatred is a terrible thing.

  • Tipsy

    Question: why does it seem like only black people are rejecting Trump wholeheartedly? Women, LGBTs, hell, even his Hispanic numbers aren’t as atrocious as you’d think they’d be.

    • Friday

      A lot of people *don’t* know what we have to lose at this point, I suppose. A certain number of women and LGBT people do still kind of want ‘daddy’ to make everything better, I suppose. There may be a degree to which only black people know just what this Trump *looks* like at first glance, I suppose. Authoritarian streaks run everywhere and a lot of people just don’t look to *competence* there, I suppose. A lot of us don’t understand that reasoning is distressing to a lot of people and authoritarians *can* yank that around in ways that you wouldn’t think, at least if they get enough cooperation about it.

  • Treant

    +48 is actually a great showing for Clinton.

    Remember, regardless of any other characteristic, at least 20% of any population is what I’d call “nuts.”

  • Joseph Petrella

    …with at least some of them swayed by the year-long campaign of hate and condescension by commentors here throughout the primary and up to this very day. and it’s not just lgbt voters.

    i’m not a regular commentor here but i do visit the site almost daily and i read the comments. i’m not voting for trump. but it doesn’t surprise me to learn many others are after the kinds of protracted, personal attacks i have witnessed against anyone who didn’t support clinton from day one.

    you can’t insult and inflame people for 18 months and then expect them NOT to do the opposite of what you want from them. i’ve tried to communicate this objective reality to clinton supporters here and elsewhere since at least april…and in response i was often immediately shut down as a “berniebro” or a “misogynist” or a “troll or worse. which is fine, but sort of illustrates the very issue i was trying to communicate in the first place.

    • what annoys me more is that very few HRC people seem to want to look facts in the face. which is to say, as politely as i can, doesn’t anyone (white) remember when Obama was first elected? i do.

      short memories annoy me. remember when we were going to have Peace, Prosperity for All, universal health care and prosecutions for the criminals who led us into an illegal war of choice? yeah, that was your candidate. he hasn’t sucked, utterly, on gay issues, and a few others. but i still remember the grandiose promises. and i’ll just say it: so many voters bought into all those promises b/c he is a “black” man. (as black as i am, if you know what i mean)

      now, “It’s Her Turn.” she stands for all of us with vaginas, apparently, and she’s going to make everything better. i guess i’m not a fool. she’ll be elected, a lot of these promises and programs will be so much wind, and gays will still be apologizing for her and giving her money, b/c she doesn’t hate us (anymore).

      drumpf is evil. but i wonder if it’s not more evil to make people forget how this process really works. i won’t embarrass myself again, thinking that a dem candidate will keep her/his word. meanwhile, i predict youth voting will be very low this time around, and a lot of 2008 dem voters won’t show up. ask yourself why, and what might have been said or done, to change that. drumpf has no chance, but the fact that some dems worry that he does? it reflects more poorly on them, than those who foolishly may support drumpf.

      • Friday

        My memory is not in fact short. In fact I remember everyone cheering ‘Yay, job done’ when Obama got elected and not turning up for the midterms in 2010 even after Ted Kennedy died and that meant constant filibuster of everything.

      • Homo Erectus

        I thank jeezus every morning that we have President Obama and not President Romney. I think he has done an outstanding job despite presiding while black. You can’t really blame him for Gitmo or having only 8 seated SCOTUS justices. Maybe some of us should have tried harder during the mid-terms to help him out.

    • edrex

      fair point abt. skillful rhetoric….but…. the trump folks aren’t exactly the most gracious when challenged, either. there is much variety in the way folks express their opinions here on jmg. some more aggresive, but certainly not all. i’m dubious of the person who says “i won’t vote for hillary because someone on jmg was an a-hole to me.”

  • Ta-er al-Asfer

    An important thing to remember: gays can also be bigoted, self-serving assholes.

    • Friday

      If they are, there’s far less excuse to not know better though.

  • 20% of LGBT people are probably white and wealthy enough to survive four years of Trump and 30 years of a Supreme Court stacked with Scalia clones. I can see that. I don’t like it, but I can see it.

    • canoebum

      Wealthy won’t mean shit when the nukes start flying.

    • Friday

      I think they overestimate their chances, never mind their monetary interestsif they consider themselves *competent* at being rich people. Drumph can’t even *get* a bank loan in this country anymore, that’s why he was soliciting Khadaffi for investments, never mind Russian oligarchs.

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      Racists. Trump polls well with racists. That’s the group he polls the highest with.

  • amboy00

    Were they also white male and cisgendered?

    • Friday

      Very likely. Trump’s aggregate ‘Lesbian support’ appears to be one lady who made a statement at the Republican convention, was ignored and disappeared, probably after how she was treated. I’m pretty sure even Hothead Paisan ain’t that crazy. 🙂

  • Piet

    I swear half the photos I see of that man remind me of Mr. Toad, and the other half remind me of a cartoon character puckering up for a kiss nobody wants.

  • anne marie in philly

    WTeverlovinF?????

  • Grafxbear

    “2012 NBC News Exit Polls, 5 percent of voters identified as gay, lesbian or bisexual** and 76 percent voted for Barack Obama.”

    So, we’re better than that with Hill with 80% polling for her.

  • JellyDonut

    every community has its share of idiots!

  • Mike Thakar

    Kapos were not spared from the gas chambers and ovens. Fucking idiots.

    • Silver Badger

      Poetic justice?

      • Friday

        Nah, just what you get when you *forsake* Justice. (invoking Billbear.)

  • That Guy

    One of my friends saw a “Gays for Trump” tent at a Pride festival today. Although there was only one (white) guy there, so maybe “Gay for Trump” is more accurate.

  • 1Truth1

    Yep. I have a gay friend who is voting Trump. I have no idea why. He is a friend and he is entitled to his own vote, but I just don’t understand it.

    • John Ruff

      That’s no friend

      • 1Truth1

        I have a lot of friends who do not share many common values with me… but that doesn’t stop me from being friendly or enjoying other aspects of life with them. We can agree to disagree and still be friends.

        • Friday

          And that explains your screen name how?

          • 1Truth1

            It doesn’t. I just chose a random word.

          • Friday

            Yah, that’s credible.

          • 1Truth1

            Well I can only tell you the truth. Whether you believe it or not is up to you. Have a great Sunday!!

          • Friday

            If people could only tell the truth, we’d al be done arguing by now, for the most part. 🙂

          • 1Truth1

            🙂

    • Schlukitz

      I’d be busy un-friending him, that’s for sure.

  • shellback

    Okay folks, I’ve just about had it. It’s time to start looking for a new country. Any ideas on the perfect* place?
    * Perfection may not be attainable, but somewhere I won’t feel like punching a hole in my monitor.

  • MeSoHappy

    Diversity — in all forms — is the spice of life. For example, I recently had sex (twice!) with a gentleman whose front yard displayed a “Hillary for Prison” sign. The sex was very (VERY) good. If I had been a shrill sanctimonious sissy and refused to give up the booty to a person with a different political outlook, I would have missed out on some hot sex. So there…

    • BillTheCat45

      Um, nope. Grats on proving everyone’s point – you selfishly overlook a fascist anti-human shtbag because YOU had great sex. That’s not diversity, that’s called “selfishness”. Good luck with that. Who wouldn’t bang an inhuman tyrant if the sex is good, AMIRITE?

      • Friday

        Honestly, now that you mention it, I’ve never known anyone who felt the need to claim ‘great sex’ in a manner like that was actually telling the truth in the first place. Certainly not from anyone else involved’s point of view. 🙂

    • Gil

      Sad…..But hope you were careful….

    • BrienneOfTarthCarolWalkingDead

      Like JCF said above, it is Lysistrata time. Have pride, I say better self-love than self-loathing love.

    • Daveed_WOW

      You are what is wrong with America.

      • Friday

        (I suspect he’s what’s wrong with someone’s imagination, actually. More’s the pity if that’s real, I guess.)

    • Jon Doh

      Whore!

    • Friday

      Yeah, that’s just living down to what’s said about all of us by who you’re voting for. Bon appetit. ‘Sissy.’ Make sure you beg nice next time you give a hate-preacher head. (That’s not diversity, that’s you making a kink out of shame.)

    • Schlukitz

      You really posted that, did you?

  • abqdan

    The LGBT community isn’t some homogeneous collective of degree-educated, enlightened liberals. It’s a cross section of the American people. Poor white trash LGBT folk are just as likely to be racist and self-loathing as anything; and 1%ers are just as likely to vote in their best financial interest, rather than society’s. So no surprise really that some LGBT people will vote Trump. Being deranged, ill-educated, or just plain old self-serving is not limited to straights. Women are going to vote for Trump too! They’re all crazy.

    • AJayne

      The folly is that Trump is not in their best financial interest unless they’re directly in his pocket – and no guarantees even then. I agree, though, that some LGBT people are as racist as other parts of society – which is a real shame.

    • Daveed_WOW

      Financial conservatism, frankly, is just a rationalization for lower taxes. And the lower taxes are intended to cost poor people. They love money for their own (real estate, for example, only gets developed with public money. Private money doesn’t do any developing without subsidies.) They want to make their that “their” money only goes to their own. Not minorities. General bigotry and general conservatism go together.

      • boatboy_srq

        Bitter irony that the income tax, once touted as something only the 1% paid, is now something that is at once used against “people who pay no taxes” and against the government that wouldn’t function without them.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Just goes to show you that straight white trash in southern states aren’t the only fucking morons who vote against their interests.

  • TheManicMechanic

    They are too concerned with their money, investments, social standing and overall greed to care more for anyone or anything but themselves.

    • Friday

      Sadly, they also seem to be ignoring what happens to *you* when you do business with Donald Trump. He gets the gold toilets, everyone else gets the shit end of the stick.

  • BobSF_94117

    Oh pppppffffffffffffffffffffffff

  • JCF

    Lysistrata Time, peeps! Don’t f#ck those who would vote to f#ck over us—f#ck over everyone!

  • There were Jews who voted for the National Socialists in Germany in the 30s.

    In any case, here we have the usual minority percentage of a group that will gladly act as parasites on the hard work of the rest, in terms of who exactly made it possible for them to be OPENLY LGBT, while these short-sighted selfish gits vote for those candidates who have vowed to take away all those civil rights.

  • Happy_Housewife

    I know a few of them. I plan on getting them drunk Election Day so they’ll forget about voting.

    • Ahahaha!

    • Friday

      Award for executive thinking. 🙂

  • Octoberfurst

    I can’t wrap my brain around the fact that there are people who will vote for a party that hates and despises them. Why would any sane Black, Latino or gay person vote GOP when you can plainly see how bigoted the Republican party has become? It makes no sense to me. It would be like seeing a “Jews for Hitler” organization in Germany in the 1930’s.

    • boatboy_srq

      It’s about identification. tRump supporters see themselves as unjustly afflicted (by Those People©) first, LGBT second.

      In some ways the LGBT community has further to go than many when it comes to equality and social justice. Recognizing ethnic diversity has taken a back seat to sexual/gender diversity. That should change. And seeing how many LGBT folk support tRump and Johnson should be a wake-up call.

      • Friday

        In some ways I understand the Johnson bit a bit better, partly just from some Libertarian types who disconnect from politics and somehow think the Libertarian *narrative* actually in any way would make their policies different from Christian Right ones in *effect.*

    • Homo Erectus

      Who said they were sane? We’re talking “Dr. Stabby” types here.

  • Hank

    LGBT voters for Hair Drumpf ARE Deplorable!!!

  • Queequeg

    They would have marched happily to the gas chambers in Germany. Trump differs from Hitler only in the degree of what he would be allowed tonget away with.

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      My only consolation is that Trump would like run a death camp as competently as he does a casino.

      • Friday

        Frankly, all the ‘best people’ he’s been cultivating have probably got it planned in detail with Bible verses and cake frosting on top for years now.

    • Friday

      Hate to break it to you, but a lot of what Hitler was getting away with had little to do with what anyone believed by the time he could do it.

      • Queequeg

        I know that, which is why everyone should be able to see how dangerous Trump is.

  • andrew

    Any LGBT person with a functioning brain should just look at the list of possible U.S. Supreme Court nominees that Trump has issued and realize that a Trump presidency will roll back the new freedoms and opportunities that we have gained in recent decades. For an LGBT person to vote for Trump makes as much sense as a Black person voting for David Duke.

    • Schlukitz
    • Robert Conner

      Sadly you lost them at “functioning brain.”

  • Ernest Endevor

    Many NAMBLA members are voting for Trump. People with big brains are saying this.

    Also, I’m beginning to think that Johnson is dumber than Trump.

  • Rillion

    There is no shortage of racists and misogynists in the community unfortunately.

    • Schlukitz

      Are you saying that not agreeing with gays who support and vote for members of the Repubathug party are racists and misogynists?

      if so, I don’t understand the correlation or how you arrived at it?

      • Rillion

        I’m saying that Trump appeals to racist and misogynists therefore it is not a surprise that some members of the LGBT community are supporting Trump since there are members of the LGBT community who are racists and/or misogynists.

  • I kind of understand. In order to survive, a lot of LGBT people grew up with a “screw the whole world” attitude. So of course they would now be attracted to Trump, who would of course do just exactly that. Gays included.

    • Gianni

      Sort of self-imposed reverse psychology? 🙂 I like it!

      • Internalized externally! :0D

        • Gianni

          I think we’ve nailed it.

          • Friday

            Funny how few actually do though, and how much noise they make.

  • Jeffg166

    Just because one is gay doesn’t mean one isn’t a racist, anti Semitic, nazi bigot.

    • Friday

      Kinda does to the *bigots* once they get what they want, of course.

    • Schlukitz

      Um…calling out ignorance and stupidity is not in any way related to being racist, anti-semitic or a nazi bigot.

      It’s nothing more than a Godwin’s law comment designed to shut-down the conversation.

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      Yes, you can be a sexist corrupt slimebag hypocrite too!

  • Robert Conner

    A quick glance at the bell curve tells you about 20% of the population just isn’t very smart and that would necessarily include 20% of the LGBT population. The evidence of evolution tells a pretty convincing story of a species of talking apes that emerges from a bottomless pit of ignorance into an endless swamp of logical fallacy. Acting on impulse and making split-second decisions based on nothing more than what you just heard had crucial survival value when humans were sharing caves with bears, now not so much. Evolution did not prepare Homo sapiens to be a big thinker, mythology notwithstanding. Some relatively small number of humans think things through in spite of themselves (and their culture) and the rest just follow.

    A decade ago it seemed to be the received wisdom among economic forecasters that China would be the economic flywheel of the 21st century. When I read that I recall wondering if these forecasters had ever heard of glaciers or the Tibetan Plateau. Were they aware that China’s rivers are running dry? That the Gobi desert was moving steadily southward? People are very bad at the long game and always have been. Imagine stampeding fifty mammoths off a cliff so you can eat part of one of them and that would be the paradigm of us planning for the future. Never underestimate the befuddlement of the general public.

    • Friday

      Frankly, I expect more of us. Straight people can afford to be stupid/not pay attention in a lot of ways we can’t.

      • Schlukitz

        Yep yep.

        Straight folks are busy moping up baby puke and changing shitty diapers.

        What’s our excuse? LOL

        • Friday

          Strictly speaking that’s exactly why some cultures have had very *high* expectations of LGBT people, especially spiritually.

      • Robert Conner

        You might expect that of a number of communities. And then along comes Herman Cain. Or Colin Powell for that matter. Or a couple of drunk lesbians slugging it out. Or Mexican-Americans celebrating “narcocultura”–with their children, no less. Or Catholics sending their kids and grandkids back to church in spite of decades of revelations of child abuse. Or paycheck to paycheck workers voting for pols who oppose banking regulations. Let’s all agree to stop here before we ruin the weekend.

        The take-away: we is not smart.

        • Friday

          Interesting equivalencies.

          • leastyebejudged

            Those are not equivalencies, those are analogies.

            Idiot.

          • Friday

            Are they.

          • leastyebejudged

            Yes, tiresome twat.

        • Ah. But is our children learning?

  • April

    It’s most likely rich gays who think their money can insulate themselves from discrimination.

    • Friday

      If they think doing business with Trump will make them richer, they’re sadly-underinformed.

    • leastyebejudged

      Uh, hate to break it to you, tookie, but the rich fags have always been insulated from it, and have always been a huge part of the problem.

      It’s funny here to watch everyone do their bidding without question.

      • Friday

        Exactly how do you turn that around to being what’s happening *here,* if anything is?

  • Alyssa

    25% of the LGBT community are Republicans, so the real story is that Trump is down 20% among the LGBT Republicans.

  • Nowhereman
    • Friday

      There’s “the best friend to the gays” with all his crazy Fundie masters.

  • 3-Star

    Wow. A lot of hate in this comments section. Not everyone who is gay supports Clinton much in the same way that not everyone who is white supports Trump. I love my friends regardless of which candidate they support. Let’s practice what we preach and start showing some love around this place. Remember, it’s our duty to “police” the comments section and we can start with our own.

    • Friday

      Uhh, what the fuck are you talking about? Obviously ‘not everyone who is gay supports Clinton,’ but Trump supports all the people who and policies that want to relegate us to subhuman status, so exactly what ‘love’ you expect to get while voting in service of our ejection from our birthright as American citizens, I dunno.

      This is not a matter of ‘tolerance,’ this is a matter of the *lives* of everyone here, maybe yours included. (Not to mention much, much bigger concerns than even that considering what a manifestly-unqualified lunatic we’re talking about here.) And LGBT or straight, it’s most *certainly* a matter of what this Republic is even supposed to be *about.*

      You’re the one demanding ‘policing’ in service of the most virulently-*intolerant* candidate and platform in modern history, here. So what exactly do you think is going to happen here?

      • 3-Star

        Are you done?

        • Friday

          Not by a long shot. What else you got? Anything?

          • 3-Star

            Ha! I have plenty but you just proved my point. Thanks for that.

          • Friday

            How you figure.

    • Schlukitz

      People who vote against my best interests are NOT my friends.

      When people that I know vote for a party who wants to roll-back marriage equality as Trump and Pence have promised they would do if elected, I have every right to speak out…loudly and proudly, I might add.

      I have no intent of muzzling myself lest I offend the bigots, haters and homophobes who hate themselves so much that they will shoot themselves in the foot to prove it. Gay, Log Cabin Republicans, are you listening?

      My sister and brother-in-law claim that they love me, yet they consistently vote a straight Republican ticket despite my pleas to vote for a gay-friendly Presidential candidate.

      As a friend of mine said, “They love you. They just don’t love you enough.”

      • 3-Star

        I guess you don’t know the true meaning of “friend”. I mean that sincerely and I’m actually sorry for you.

        • RainbowPhoenix

          If you’re friends with someone, you don’t do things that you know will cause needless pain and suffering to your supposed friends.

        • Friday

          I think if you think *that* is a simple matter of projection, you’re the one who has been that alien to friendship.

          • 3-Star

            Uh-huh. Thanks for those words of kindness. Come back when you are ready to discuss the matter at hand.

          • Friday

            Which is what thing you’ve said when here? Frankly, my *friends* trust me to give em the rough side of my tongue or kick their arse if necessary: you’re the one coming here whining about abstractly not getting ‘loved’ for supporting the very real and present oppressor… who’s also a bloody idiot and con man.

            I think you’re just butthurt you won’t get any damn sex as easy as you thought if you were dumb enough to believe Trump about either sex or money. Never mind friends.

        • Schlukitz

          “I’m actually sorry for you.”

          Brushing your faux sympathy off of my sleeves.

    • Robert Conner

      Did you know we can hear you?

      • 3-Star

        ? You got me on that one. Mission accomplished.

    • RainbowPhoenix

      I bet you also think Jews in Nazi Germany had no right to be angry at the Kapos.

      • 3-Star

        Oh, it’s you again. Surprised I’m not.

        • RainbowPhoenix

          So you don’t actually have an explanation for your belief that we have no right to be angry at traitors who want to hand the reins of government over to people who quite literally want to kill us all.

          • leastyebejudged

            He did not say you have no right to be angry, where did he ever say that ?

            Anger is a choice. Maybe get some help with your own anger issues.

          • RainbowPhoenix

            Maybe learn reading comprehension.

          • leastyebejudged

            Ahh, you’re an idiot, got it.

          • Friday

            This is what the world gets for not letting me teach English.

          • RainbowPhoenix

            I know you are, but what am I?

          • Friday

            (Exactly where in this process do you think semantics counted when haters got their way ever?)

          • Viod Null

            Welcome To The Dark Side, Lady. I can feel your anger growing inside you. Your hatred for those who oppose you makes you strong! Feed on the Anger and BECOME – –
            Darth Friday!

          • Viod Null

            Can’t keep a Democrat in office forever, and the laws will hold up to whatever beating Trump can throw at them.

          • RainbowPhoenix

            Not if Trump fills the vacancy on the Supreme Court.

      • Viod Null

        I think the German People KNEW who Hitler was when they elected him to office in the first place. Many a person who voted FOR Hitler was put into the camps as well.

        • RainbowPhoenix

          So you agree with me that minorities have every right to be angry with those among them who give power to those who want them all dead.

    • Viod Null

      Remember when Joe carried non-mainstream news that was important to gays? Some important stories that affected Gay Lives could only be found here. Now Josephina-My-Goddess is a troll-bridge for Lesbians who feel free to bash ANY Non Clinton-Is-A-Goddess discussions. Now – if your not a Clintapon then you deserve the worst venom imaginable. Joe HAD a reputation, but I fear that after this election cycle that his numbers will go down significantly, if they have not already. Allowing these hateful Lesbians to control his site makes me feel pity for Joe. How The Mighty Have Fallen.

      • RainbowPhoenix

        No, if you want Trump to be president, you deserve the worst venom imaginable. I for one don’t want to see a repeat of the Cuban Missile Crisis.

  • Homo Erectus

    Oh fer chrissakes.

  • DutchBoy74

    37% Do not support Margaret Thatcher 2.0. That’s her image problem.

    We’ve been telling Clinton what she needs to do for months as we were instructed to “make Clinton a better candidate”. She has failed. She’s spent millions of dollars on propaganda pacs to not engage in good civil feedback, but to rather slander, lash out, call people petulant children and Trump supporters.

    The particular nastiness is ever evident in this board.

    The arrogance of her campaign is on full display. It’s only confirming people’s concerns about her administration. Those poll numbers speak to that.

    I can only assume that the Clinton campaign has written off a good chunk of the left, who is now demonized as “Alt-Left”, as collateral damage. That is the Clinton campaign’s judgment.

    Her supporters should be relaying that information to the campaign. If Clinton continues to base her administration and this election as “not Trump”, rather than showcasing solutions to issues – then you can expect more of this.

    But what the fuck do I know? I am a “special kind of stupid”.

    • Mike in Houston

      Yes dear. You are.

    • Friday

      That’s not ‘Clinton’s Image Problem,’ that’s you acting like she somehow controls *you and the damn corporate media when you *completely lie.* The ‘Image’ you try to reinforce is and always was bloody well *false,* Thatcher’s just the only other woman you could think of.

      • DutchBoy74

        Here it is in black and white from the DNC – collusion with the media to prop up a “pied piper” candidate. The DNC brought on Trump because they thought the only way Clinton would win was to blackmail the public in a dangerous game of chicken against the most repugnant right wing candidate.

        https://guccifer2.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/2.doc

        There are plenty of women leaders in the world to choose from. I compare Clinton to Thatcher because of the similar mannerisms and notorious right wing war hawkish corporate policies. Thatcher is a preview of what things will be like under Clinton.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1jY5fYjV-U

        • Friday

          Like any of the other GOP offerings weren’t vile enough? (Including even Kasich, who was spared coverage of what he did in his own state by said media. )

          The *media* is after *ratings.* What happened to the Republicans is that their own clown car strategy and bigoted dogwhistling and anger-stirring backfired, to the point they were trying to get Cruz (Who’s pretty repulsive even to most other Republicans) to win, when all else failed, over the most-overtly-bigoted guy there…. Who happens to play the very most to Republicans’ own decades long tactics.

          I’m not seeing your damn conspiracy, and frankly it wouldn’t have worked if the Republicans actually *had* any quality candidates.

    • Viod Null

      You vote Trump now, let the complete idiot fail at reversing Equality. Better him than somebody who can do some REAL damage. Eventually there will be a Republican President, and they will try to chip away at the Gay Laws just like past Republican Presidents tried to chip away at Black Laws. The Laws are strong and well made, and they will survive the test of time. If we compare Gay Laws to Black Laws then we KNOW we have at least 50 years of a Bloody Fight on our hands. Buck Up And Face The Struggle! You didn’t think it was over yet, did you?

      • Viod Null

        Our REAL enemy is Living Memory. The longer a group holds onto its Equality the more the oppressors die of old age. They loose power to the young who are born into that Equality, and then the young carry that Equality with them into the future. People are living longer these days, so we may yet shed blood for our cause for the next 75 years. But as long as it takes – we will prevail in the end.

        • DumbHairyApe

          You are ignoring reality. YOU don’t have the luxury of waiting hundreds of years for your rights to be formed by your magic pendulum. The Supreme Court positions that will be made by the next POTUS will ripple through those 100 years. Having someone like Trump load the court will make your 100 years of hope turn into 1000.

          Quit being so stupid for the sake of your pride. Get real. You are endangering your life, as well as the lives of all LGBT people for the sake of your sophomoric angst and pride.

      • RainbowPhoenix

        Why do you keep ignoring the Supreme Court?

  • Michael Abbett

    Block them all. Ignore them, shun them. Put them in the basket. Miserable little turnips.

    • Friday

      (Frankly, when they’ve turned up here they’ve only seemed upset at the notion someone might not let them use them for sex.)

      • Viod Null

        A Lesbian applying a Stereotype to Gay Men, wow. I can’t help but have more respect for you now.

  • This is truly despicable. Disgusting actually. How quickly some have forgotten how hard fought this battle has been!!! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/91f9348f00ae72e77c9a471130f9f4a4750d1970f128d176033f6c322a7b27b9.jpg

  • FAEN

    Fucking homocons and their constant self loathing.

  • jerrydoubleu .

    u nasty bitches voted for money in politics when u voted against bernie…….u got ur way in spades

    • Tigernan Quinn

      Oh fuck off.

    • The primary is over. Someone has to win, someone has to lose. It’s how it works. I liked Bernie, always have. But I didn’t think he had a good chance in the general election (still don’t think he would). It doesn’t make me a “nasty bitch,” but it sure sounds like you may be.

    • Friday

      Eedjit.

  • Herald

    Isn’t it typically about 1/3 of gays who vote GOP? So this is actually a pretty big drop.

  • Tigernan Quinn

    I’m going to need a list of these people so I can begin slapping faces.

  • leastyebejudged

    I do know gay people who are very pro-Trump.

    But it is nowhere near 20%. I figure it to be less than 2%.

  • Rick James Brown

    I have a gay friend who’s WORKING in his campaign in Florida. (I forget who said it, but a well-known liberal British guy said years ago…about gay Republicans…”how far do you have to stick your head up your own ass, before your completely disappear?”)

  • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

    20% of LGBT voters are racist, sexist morons.

    • Friday

      (Well allowing for Breitbots,)

    • Helen Damnation ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      And most of them live here in my town.

  • That’s what it usually is, right? 20%? I’ll never understand it. I’ll never get why a fifth of gay people would vote Republican under much of any circumstances, least of all now. But it seems to always be true.

  • Viod Null

    It’s not that we are for Trump – It’s that we are completely Anti-Hillary. She STOLE the nomination from the Rightful Winner. If I can’t for FOR Bernie – then I will vote AGAINST Hillary. I don’t like Trump one bit, but Hillary does NOT deserve POTUS.

    • Viod Null

      Are these new pro-gay laws SO fragile that they require a Democratic President for the rest of time to make sure they stay in place? There ARE going to be republican Presidents in the future, and just like with the laws that protected Blacks – the laws that protect Gays will have to stand the test of time on their own merits. Trump is NOT an instant repeal of ALL laws that protect any part of the populous. It is a pendulum swing of American Politics. Historically this is how it happens. Sometimes it’s peaceful, sometimes it’s bloody. Trump has enticed and enraged his supporters, so I fear there will be blood either way. But this is what will happen, a Republican WILL take office who ACTIVLY opposes gays, and then that too shall pass. This is a MUCH larger picture than one election cycle.

      • Helen Damnation ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        why are you so private and everything? We need for people like you to be OUT and PROUD!

      • RainbowPhoenix

        There’s this thing called the Supreme Court. You might have heard that it has a vacancy. A vacancy that will be filled by the next president.

    • RainbowPhoenix

      Nothing was stolen from Sanders. A majority of the party’s members said they didn’t want him. People like you gave us Bush, and if you give us Trump, the blood will be on your hands.

  • Sirdirkfan

    There’re more than just those polled in support of both candidates, all those multi millions who use cell phones and refuse to take calls not on their contact list, and that includes pollsters.
    80,000 marched in protest against the hate speech of homosexuals in Mexico.
    Mebbe that’ll happen in America.

  • Mike

    Well….I am not American but I don’t think it’s money. …Even though he is two faced shit who will sell you the time of the day, I can see a gay gerson who has seen their or his/her’s high educated family members loose their job and spiral into addiction might turn to Trump. Clinton I am sad to say is continuation of Bush and Obama.

    • Maggie 4NoH8

      I disagree with your “continuation” of Bush – Clinton would be vastly different. I do agree with “continuation” of Obama – and that is NOT a bad thing. It’s the direction the US needs to go…

      • Mike

        Well Bush might have send soldiers on the ground, Obama just replaced them with drones. Apart from black, gay and women rights, which might be the only reason to vote for Hilary. Obama flipped on Monsanto, Wall Street, and many other things he promised. Hilary is going to do the same. Whether she is forced to or that is what she is a different question.

        If you are suffering and your loved ones are suffering what is the points of having rights. And along comes a person who says what you have been thinking and you vote for him, right or wrong be dammed….

  • Tom Maxwell

    20% of GLBT voters are morons

  • Ginger Snap

    I have former friends that I’m sure are voting for him and I’m sure they are the same former friends that would not bother for a black man.

  • mjcc1987

    Being gay, trans, or bi does not preclude you from being scum of the earth, a moron, or a small minded bigot. It’s just that you, being openly discriminated against, should know better. Not any different than an African American supporting a teabagger. There are always certain parts of each group that are irredeemably stupid.

  • kladinvt

    “None of the Above” should be an option.

  • James

    You have to wonder how many of those Trump supporters are really LGBT, and how many are propagandists working for Trump and/or the Kremlin.

  • Michael

    That’s like Jews voting for Hitler in the 1933 campaign.

  • Just from looking at my FB feed, I know that there are LGBT folks among the Deplorables. I wish there was a way to identify that part of the “basket” with more precision.

    For some, is it a function of the insulation of wealth? (Example: Peter Thiel).

    For others, is there an aspect of it that involves hating some other people because they are different (considering that TERF condemnations of trans people are derived from memes created by an ex nun, how many TERFs would find a way to supporting Trump, like Rick Santorum)?

    Are some of these folks semi- or fully- closeted? (The level of self-hatred that can lead someone to run virulently ant-LGBT organizations, or shoot up a nightclub, could also lead to voting for Trump).

    At least some of them may well fit into one of the more traditional stereotypes – racism being one, But perhaps there are more unique reasons,

    While it might only be anecdotal, perhaps some of the denizens here might want to share why they’re voting for Trump – perhaps there is some “non-Deplorable” reason?

  • David

    None of those 20% read JMG.