ARIZONA: Court Smashes Hate Group’s Attempt To Overturn Phoenix’s LGBT Anti-Discrimination Ordinance

Back in May, Alliance Defending Freedom sued to overturn Phoenix’s LGBT rights ordinance on behalf of a tiny company that produces hand-drawn wedding invitations. At that time Brush & Nib had never even been asked to create invitations for a same-sex couple, much less turned one away, so the haters filed a so-called “pre-enforcement challenge.” Today the Superior Court of Maricopa County smacked the haters down in brusque fashion. See the final paragraph of today’s ruling below.brushnib
(Tipped by JMG reader TJ)

  • Pollos Hermanos
  • Dazzer

    Alliance Defending Funeral – always setting a new low for legal standards. And winning the race to the bottom every time.

    • Steverino

      Gawd’s waaaaaambulence chasers.

  • another_steve

    May the Alliance Defending Freedom get a large collective hernia.

    (an adaptation of an ancient Yiddish curse)

    • MaryOGrady

      May the Alliance Defending Freedom have itches where they can’t scratch!

      • another_steve

        ^^ Excellent, Mary.

        Either you are Jewish or have recessive Jewish genes.

    • Dale Snyder

      …or a large kiddie porn collection.

      Oh wait….

    • Ernest Endevor

      May all their orgasms turn to stone.

      • another_steve

        I believe there’s a particularly nasty Yiddish curse that one directs at a pregnant woman: “May she give birth to a rock.” Or a stone. Something like that.

        It’s so terrible that I only heard it in my household maybe once or twice, which is why I’m a bit fuzzy on it.

        • Ernest Endevor

          The hubby is Sephardic so wed on’t have Yiddish curses but Arabic curses about dogs and mothers and may your falafel rot on the vine: that kind of stuff.

          • another_steve

            My brother-in-law is Sephardic.

            My Spanish is very rusty. He occasionally whispers things about me — to his cousins, in Spanish — when we’re all together.

            I don’t trust it.

            If ya know what I mean.

          • Ernest Endevor

            As I’m sure you know, when the Jews were expelled from Spain many of the Sephardim ended up in the Middle East. Whatsisname’s family are much more like Arabs than Spaniards. He remembers his mother quarreling with her sisters when they were in Alexandria, and the sisters threatening to throw themselves off the balcony. But I know what you mean about the whispering. He who shall not be named’s mother used to do it in Arabic. It was never good.

    • RJ Bone

      May your pubic region be infested with the fleas of 1000 camels.

  • clay

    “Bedtime, now. And, no, you don’t get desert (it was cake).”

  • ShawnSwagger

    They weren’t even a real business. As I recall, when Joe first posted about these dipsticks, they weren’t registered as a business with the city or the state, didn’t seem to have a working website and their address was a private residence.

    • Cherry

      Maybe they had an Etsy business?

      • McSwagg

        More like an itsy-bitsy business.

  • PickyPecker
    • Ewan McGregor…I might need a little personal time….

    • RJ Bone

      Say, Ewan, while you’re down there…

  • Gustav2

    but…but…but we are young cute white Christian ladies who never should have to deal with fellow citizens we think are icky.

    • clay

      When you put it that way, I start to get a Little Britain “But I’m a lady, who’s interested in lady things.” vibe.

  • OSG

    Ugh, they’re young too, you can tell by the pinterestness of it all.

  • bryan
    • OSG

      LOL

    • Megrim Twist

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    • tcinsf

      Or ..

  • Sam_Handwich

    if i recall correctly, “Brush and Nib” didn’t even seem like a real company back when this surfaced in the spring

    • Todd Allis

      Indeed, it looked like it had been created in order to have something to sue over.

      • That was my impression too. There were several things shown on their website that screamed “Fake!”, but what really gave the game away was that every sample of their work shown there was done in exactly the same style of lettering. A genuine professional calligrapher prides himself on the variety of styles he can offer his customers.

        • David Walker

          Interesting. And now that you mention it, I see it.

          • Everything they show is done in the Palmer Method cursive they learned at school, but adorned with even more superfluous loops and twirls, which I suspect they have been indulging in since they were ten. It’s not an attractive script to begin with, and “artistic interpretation” only makes it look messy and undignified. (Can you imagine a chapter of the Gospels written out like that?? No wonder they confine themselves to doing only half-a-dozen words at a time!)

            Back in my Adelaide days I had occasion to work with a very nice bloke who held the title of “Calligrapher to the City of Adelaide” and, knowing I was interested in these things — back in those days before computer drafting it was part of an architect’s skill to letter and title his drawings beautifully — he loved to explain his art to me.

            He always said that the real test of a calligrapher was to write (or rather, to draw) a simple hand with perfect clarity and evenness — and to chose one that enhances rather than distracts from the text. (IIRC he had mastered about eight, in widely different styles.)

            I can imagine Bob’s horrified reaction to Brush & Nib’s video: Pushing the pen?? Resting the forearm on just-done work?? Just laying the paper on the table and not even pinning it down so it won’t slip??? Can’t they afford a proper lectern??? Hrmff! Amateurs!!!

            Getting to Know the Artists of Brush & Nib Studio – YouTube

      • The_Wretched

        Like Hobby Lobby’s sudden distaste for insurance that covers birth control. Christianist groups like the Becket Fund for christian hegemony have a legal strategy in place to build a wall of freedom from the laws for christians – esp the big rich ones. They farm up fake plaintiffs as needed.

      • JCF

        Ding-ding-ding-ding-ding!

    • Skokieguy [Larry]

      If I ever want invites done in Comic Sans, I know who to call.

  • PickyPecker
  • Michael

    Why does God make them lose–that’s what the radical anti-gay lobby should be contemplating.

    • gawd didn’t make them lose. they just failed to pray hard enough.

      • Reality.Bites

        Don’t be silly. They didn’t fail. Their followers and donors failed to give them enough money. And the followers didn’t fail either.

        The followers failed because little Sally didn’t clean her room and Billy didn’t take the garbage out. So they didn’t have the time to send money and write letters.

        So God punished them all and rewarded us sinners, because that’s apparently a really good way to get people to worship you.

    • canoebum

      God doesn’t like “Christians”. They fucked up the whole message.

  • teeveedub

    No one wants your shitty “calligraphy” anyway, ladies. Your efforts are better spent with One Million Moms. Maybe you can hand write letters to TV networks expressing your outrage over the s-xual content of their programs.

    And lots of curlicues on those hyphens, please.

    • RoverSerton

      I do enjoy those curlicues on those hymens. Wait, I think I misread your comment.

    • Reality.Bites

      Do you have ANY idea how long it takes to do asterisks in calligraphy?

  • EweTaw

    That was sweet and succinct. There IS hope.

    • PickyPecker

      Hey….I recognize that! YAY!

  • LovesIrony

    smack

  • PickyPecker
    • Todd Allis

      ☐ …and your little dog too.

      • another_steve

        ^^ For non-LGBT readers here… “Wizard of Oz” reference.

        • Canadian Observer

          I think a lot of the little old ladies now collecting cats while they wait for a vacancy in the nursing home recognize the reference too.

          • Todd Allis

            Hey, I only have two cats.

          • vorpal

            I’m so sorry for your shortcoming :-).
            (We have four.)

          • Todd Allis

            My house is 14′ wide and 40′ long, about 500 square feet. I’ve shared this house with three cats before, and it was too crowded. ^_^

          • another_steve

            Regular JMG commenters need to remain cognizant that there are people who read and comment here who are straight.

            We love and honor them, and are aware of our obligation under the Americans with Disability Act to accommodate their comprehension challenges when it comes to understanding Gay Speak.

          • RoverSerton

            As a straight ally, (who happens to love musical theater), if anyone is daft enough to not get “and your little dog too”, They will miss alot of the great references here. I just built a set for the wizard of oz. Fun to watch the kids work it.

          • I never cease to be amazed at how culturally illiterate some people are.

          • RoverSerton

            Wait! I understood the reference (lol).

          • Poor Cap.

          • IamM
          • When I met my boyfriend and started hanging out with his friends they were appalled at my lack of gay knowledge. I wasn’t into movies, TV, Broadway, etc. I wasn’t apposed to that stuff, just hadn’t been exposed. They called me “The boy raised in a cave.” My boyfriend (now husband) worked hard to correct my complete cultural ignorance. I blame most of it on having grown up without a TV for many many years.

          • Reality.Bites

            I know a guy like that. If I remember correctly, his upbringing was very religious, although from a mainstream religion, and most TV was forbidden.

            However he’s fine and current cultural references and really enjoys some of the religious cartoons and such that get posted here (the religion didn’t stick. At all.)

          • (((GC)))

            I’m glad he escaped that religion!

            (“most TV was forbidden” — translation: “Thou shalt not expose thyself to ideas that challenge the great and holy One Way to live your life, and show that people can be happy and live well without it.”)

          • another_steve

            Had you never even watched one episode of “Lost in Space”?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiKchWu3Ukg

          • I have to admit I never have.

          • sfbob

            I tried to correct my hubby’s cultural ignorance. So did a number of his friends. All attempts failed miserably. I swear there are times when I wonder if I accidentally “married” (okay we’re not actually married but it’s been almost 15 years so we may as well be) a straight guy.

          • Hína Kemenduro

            I think that, by now, you would have noticed other issues were he actually straight. I am among the culturally ignorant, at least in a gay sense, but I am most definitely not a straight guy. I just have no interest in the traditional entertainments. They just do not move me, and what does move me seems not to move almost anybody else. Anyways, that stuff is just surface. Being there for somebody, caring about them, helping them, I can do that, and I have found that this is what people want. Your hubby is there for you, he loves you, although he may have other interests (culturally).

          • vorpal

            ^^^^ Agree with this.

            Don’t ask me about cultural references because I am hopelessly unknowledgeable.

            If you need help with algebra or computer science, I am your big dorky nerd. (Fortunately, my husband is even worse!)
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/65359d5beca08e11f3a8e4bd46906f25591d152eaec28e7eb7a81fb2c9fd11ca.jpg

          • Hína Kemenduro

            I am similar… but better to ask me about PIE roots, exotic grammars, etc… quite tedious for most folk, but hearing reconstructed Nostratic makes my hair stand on end.

          • madknits

            I adore anyone who knows about PIE roots.

          • doninkansas

            Is that like sweet potato pie?

          • BC’ing You

            OMG! I am facinated by languages and enjoy finding out the PIE roots of our words. I would love to hear the Nostratic reconstruction. Can you point me to a good web site? Is Nostratic more accepted in academic circles now? Earlier, I believe, it was regarded with a jaundiced eye. My course in linguistics was one of my favourite at university.

          • Hína Kemenduro

            Oh! a brother language nerd!!! … one of the many known sub-tribes of the gay nerd! I forgot that there were others!

            OK, no more silliness from me… for now. I heard the reconstructed Nostratic during an NPR broadcast some years ago. I just did a search, but I could not find it, although I imagine that it must be archived somewhere. Hearing that was what made my hair stand on end… it was somehow on the edge of comprehensibility, but still eluding me… just hair-raising. Yes, I know that these reconstructions, especially of Nostratic, are really very very far-fetched, and, yet, these reconstructions are terribly exciting, just great fun… even if one must see them merely as interesting exercises.

            If you have the etymology bug, you might enjoyhttp://www.etymonline.com/. I have wasted many enjoyable hours there. You might also enjoy the Conglangery podcast… even if conlangs do not interest you. Most of their episodes explore the grammatical features of various natural languages. They also provide links to all sorts of linguistics resources… and, as an added benefit, the main speaker, a really sweet man (married and a new father), sounds like Kermit the Frog. http://conlangery.com/feed/podcast/ I am just waiting for him to start his podcast with “Hey ho!”.

            If you want to hear some reconstructed PIE, you can find a SoundCloud file linked to in this HufPo article. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/28/proto-indo-european-language-ancestors_n_4005545.html?utm_hp_ref=tw

            The accent seems very American to me, I think a Hindi speaker would have done a better job. Youtube has other examples… even Michael Fassbender in Prometheus… way too violent a film, but… Michael Fassbender, who sounds good… to the point, that any of our reconstructions of PIE would be comprehensible to an actual PIE speaker seems more than far-fetched, so, yeah, reconstructed Nostratic is even more far-fetched, and possibly complete nonsense, but still very interesting.

          • DaveW

            Don’t worry. For a lot of the world culture is more than TV, Broadway, movies. The fine arts,literature, architecture and well, cultures,as in groups of people I’m not interested in pop culture(except maybe fashion and design as much as it is) and I get along well at straight dinner parties where art and politics rule the conversation. The other stuff is more camp to me and not being interested is not a reason I let those gays that are bully me. I would never hang out at one of those Broadway tune piano bars. To each his own. I went to engineering school too!

          • vorpal

            =grins=
            Thanks for the message of reassurance. I appreciate it.
            I’m not really worried in the slightest. Almost all of my friends are heterosexual guys, and most of them are just fun, interesting, geeky nerds like I am… astronomers, physicists, mathematicians, etc. Like me, they’ve grown out of their socially awkward teenage years and most of them are married (also to geeky women) and have fantastic families and excellent senses of humour.

            I feel pretty lucky, in the grand scheme :-).

          • JCF

            But I bet there’s a least ONE activity you share that assures you that you didn’t! 😉

          • another_steve

            You’re a very special straight ally, RS. All of us who read your comments here on JMG know that. 😉

            My straight biological sister is not so good when it comes to the Gay Speak. I’m a wee bit nelly and I’ll say something gay to her and she’ll look at my husband with that, “What the fuck is he talkin’ about?” look.

            So my husband translates for her.

          • perversatile

            On a scale of 1 to 10-
            Having no idea who Hermione Gingold is/was, has absolutely no quantifiable effects on the metrics used to compile this chart, but constantly referring to Emma Watson as
            ”that girl who played Hermione Granger” will earn you a solid 7 and a well deserved stink eye

          • Maybe there are service animals to help them with their disability?

          • Canadian Observer

            Maybe, but it is sad how many service animals are essentially colour blind and therefore of limited use in dealing with this kind of disability.

          • Adam King

            Flying monkeys?

          • Cherry

            I’m a straight female and I understood the reference. 🙂

          • Reality.Bites

            It might have something to do with it being one of the most viewed movies of all time. Especially among people of the typical age demographic of this group.

          • Steve Teeter

            Oh, god, I remember when I was a kid there was this thing with one of the TV networks, that they would broadcast The Wizard Of Oz once a year, every year. Like a ritual. This may have been back in the 60s, which dates me, doesn’t it.

          • ColdCountry

            And the 70s. At Easter time.

          • Melissa Rippetoe

            You’re right. Once a year, but I can’t remember what channel. I hid when the Wicked Witch came into the scene.

          • HozillaSmallpox

            I think it was CBS. and if I’m not mistaken it was on around Thanksgiving holiday…..or easter….

          • doninkansas

            Had to be CBS or NBC, those were the only stations in my little town.

          • doninkansas

            And Rodgers and Hammerstein’s Cinderella. I wanted the Prince to marry me!

          • another_steve

            Gifted, you are.

            There are gifted straight people, for sure.

          • pj

            subtitles

          • Grumpy Old Man

            I am an old – I saw the movie in my youth (I was going to say the original release then looked it up – nope); I was so scared by the ‘lions and tigers and bears, oh my’ that I left – I think I was 7 or 8.

          • Steve Teeter

            My partner was six when his mother took him to see the original release. What got him was when the Wicked Witch standing on the roof of the Tin Woodsman’s house started throwing fireballs. He wouldn’t stop screaming, and his mother had to take him out. She was pissed. She wanted to see the movie!

          • ColdCountry

            The Wizard of Oz was on tv every year for how long? Decades? I can’t imagine anyone over the age of 35 NOT getting that reference.

            And if your comment wasn’t so very funny, I might be offended – even if it is true. 😉

        • (((GC)))

          Not that being born gay gives you an automatic knowledge of those great movies and show tunes…. (and what about bi folks, and others under the QUILTBAG umbrella?)

          But anecdotally, there is a correlation. 🙂

          • IamM

            True. I’m not that good at color names.

          • another_steve

            Surely you know “puce,” yes?

          • Smokey

            Yes, “Richard Sumner”, Spencer Tracy in ‘the Desk Set’ writing down the sales info on the little black dress with the puce scarf.

          • Corsair Tact

            What about chartreuse? Or aubergine?

          • coram nobis

            Or magenta?

          • RJ Bone

            Columbia? Rocky?

          • coram nobis

            Magenta is an authentic reddish color. It’s the name of a battle.

          • RJ Bone

            I know about the first… what is the second reference?

            (mine was RHPS – though I’m really making a big assumption by pointing that out – apologies if I’m wrong and you do know the reference 🙂 )

          • coram nobis

            Battle of Magenta. Franco-Austrian war, 1859.

          • doninkansas

            Everyone knows Magenta was one of the characters in Rocky Horror Picture Show!

          • mad-dog

            “The lady who dyes a chemical yellow, or stains her grey hair puce…”

          • another_steve
          • Canadian Observer

            I still maintain if they aren’t in the starter pack of crayolas, they aren’t really distinct colours.

          • perversatile

            As a little kid who thought ‘Hullabaloo’ was a particular lively shade of blue-green, I can promise you, your quality of life has in no way, been compromised by that very slight deficit of knowledge

          • another_steve

            When a gay person surrenders the felt-need to be less than fully gay, the gay comes flooding in.

            A known phenomenon.

        • RJ Bone

          Toto TOO?!

  • greenmanTN

    Kinda like the pizza restaurant chick who announced preemptively that they wouldn’t cater gay weddings, as if gays were lining up around the block for pizzas from some hole in the wall dump for their reception to begin with.

    In your dreams, sister.

    • Cherry

      Maybe pizza is what rednecks do in rural areas?

      • greenmanTN

        No. I knew a rural girl who had her reception in the local high school gym and a garter that looked like the fan-belt from a 1957 Chevy and even SHE didn’t have the reception catered by a pizzeria!

        • CatApostrophe

          Eeew! Did they do that thing where the groom takes off the garter in front of the bride’s parents and grandparents and siblings and that kindergarten teacher she stayed close with and all her mom’s church friends and her prepubescent cousins, nieces, and nephews? With his teeth???!! Because that shit is seriously the nastiest custom of the entire Traditional Wedding situation. Like, nobody in the entire room is comfortable in that moment.

          • greenmanTN

            No, he didn’t think use his teeth, but yeah it’s a very weird custom, a figurative stripping of the bride by her husband in front of the wedding party.

            I actually worked with this woman and for at least 6 solid months she was looking at bride magazines instead of actually doing her job.

          • David Walker

            She could have had it at the Trailways Bus Terminal. They take of everything.

          • greenmanTN

            It’s an odd phenomenon, flipping through bride magazines for 12 months to fulfill HER Princess Bride fantasy, because it’s HER day. The person she’s actually marrying seems ancillary.

            I was a bit worried that gay grooms might give them a run for their money, but so far I’ve seen very few examples (a unicorn, AKA a horse with a fake horn plastered on its head?!) that were OTT.

          • zhera

            Many girls are brainwashed into thinking that their wedding day is The Ultimate Experience of Joy, and that it’s All About the Bride. Just look at the fucking fairytales. Best a girl can do is to get married to the prince, and wear pretty dresses and pretty shoes.

          • greenmanTN

            I realize that, games of the past like Mystery Date set them up for it.

            https://youtu.be/cYHJqQdqYz0

            But it’s almost like they for get that there is another person involved and it it isn’t THEIR day.

          • Steve Teeter

            They never think ahead. If your wedding day is the Best Day Of Your Life, do you know what that means? It’s all downhill from here.

          • zhera

            Butbutbut… Happily Ever After?

          • greenmanTN

            I went to child’s birthday party once, but it was for two children because their mothers were sisters and their birthdays were close together. A boy and a girl.

            The boy got things like a doctor dress-up outfit.

            The girl got a kit of feather boas, makeup, and Fisher-Price fuck me pumps.

            It kind of blew my mind to see that indoctrination first hand.

          • doninkansas

            I always thought it was their mom’s day. Back when I was Father Don I hated weddings with a passion. Mothers of the brides were very frightening!

          • greenmanTN

            Planning for my sister’s wedding:

            Mother: We can either do a reception for 100 people, or a sit-down dinner for 50, but not both.

            Sister: You have always hated me!

            Oh hell no, I wasn’t getting in the middle of that one!

        • Ragnar Lothbrok

          LOL! You know Kim ? Why didn’t you tell us !>?!

          • greenmanTN

            I’m in the wedding photos, the guy in the back with the bride’s mother holding a gun to my head so I will go through with it. 😉

            And I was just the ring bearer!

          • greenmanTN

            It was supposed to be a surprise.

      • Adam King

        Faan-cee! Them pepperonis was cut into little heart shapes!

  • PickyPecker
  • edrex

    But thank you for making your business known so that gays with good taste know to go elsewhere.

  • another_steve

    For our marriage reception, my man and I contracted with a dear friend who does calligraphy invitations and the like. The invites she did for us were absolutely to die for. People are still talking about them.

    The salmon pâté and those invitations — the highlights of our marriage reception.

    • Keiffer

      I would have expected the grooms to be the true highlight.

      • another_steve

        Oh please… two pot-bellied old fags?

        We had been together for 40 years when we married in 2013. Our friends and relatives thought it quite amusing and quaint that after four decades we were “tying the knot.” 😉

        • Hína Kemenduro

          I imagine there are those who fetishize PBOFs… although I have yet to meet even one of them, at least, not in a non-commercial sphere… but I share. I will send them along to you when they are done with me… but I would not hold my breath while waiting.

          • another_steve

            The gay kids reading here, if they’re lucky, will one day be PBOFs.

            One of the wise things we learn as we progress on the journey is that if we get to the next stop, we’ve been blessed.

          • Steve Teeter

            Well I’m about to turn 60, and I know what I look like, so I guess that makes me another PBOF.

          • another_steve

            Sixty is an excellent milestone.

            By 60, life has tortured you such that any little kindness that comes your way is greeted avidly, and savored.

        • Ore Carmi

          I mean, I guess sometimes it takes that long to know for sure!

  • penpal

    Their website bios are nice and full of Jesus references, as any good hypocrite christian business would be.

  • Lakeview Bob

    Oh but these people don’t hate gay people. They only hate not having their way.

  • JT

    Their nibs got the brush off.

  • TheManicMechanic

    Imagine me writing “BOOM!” in extra-jeezy childish calligraphy right now.

    • JR

      Here ya go

      • TheManicMechanic

        That’s better than you can get from that outfit!

  • Skokieguy [Larry]

    If anyone in the Chicago area needs or is interested in calligraphy done private message me, I have a friend who does it and also teaches classes in it.

    • TJay229

      Can they do the writing where its the same upside down?

      • Xuuths

        That is totally cool when done well.

      • Skokieguy [Larry]

        I don’t think so.

        • TJay229

          Ok

        • TJay229

          Ask if they do Ambigrams… Please

          • Skokieguy [Larry]

            TJay, his website is http://johnmichaelkorpal.com/, you can contact him and ask and also see at least a bit of his work.

          • TJay229

            Thanks

        • Steve Teeter

          My great-grandfather did trick calligraphy, and could probably do that one. He had a booth demonstrating his stuff at the 1939 San Francisco World’s Fair. I saw one where he did the Gettysburg Address where all the letters were made up of variations and combinations of the numeral “2”. It was even legible.

          • Skokieguy [Larry]

            Wow, that is crazy cool! Damn those earlier times and lack of hand held recording devices to preserve his talents for history!

  • TJay229

    If you wanna lose a case, hire Liberty or Alliance Defends.

  • ShawnSwagger
    • they objected to drawing dueling hard-ons

    • coram nobis

      They still have milkmen?

  • KenDC

    This was not yet the trial on the merits. The preliminary injunction is what you sue for to obtain temporary relief while the suit is ongoing. One pronged of the test to determine whether to issue the injunction is the likelihood of success on the merits. In the Court’s view, the plaintiff lost on that prong and every other.

    • Bad Tom

      It is, however, a prediction by the court that the trial on the merits won’t go the way the plaintiffs desire.

  • Richard B

    So Brush & Nib just has to ….

    • Traxley Launderette

      That Crystal Light Aerobic Challenge shall live on and on into time eternal. Scary AF.

      • JCF

        Do the “Turn My Whole Body Into a Jazz Hand” dance!

    • Ernest Endevor

      That’s me on the left. Good times.

  • Tempus Fuggit

    Yeah, a tiny company that didn’t exist until very shortly before All Liars Defrauding the Feebleminded wanted to gin up this case. I wonder which word they’ll have to sound out: the BOO, or the YAH?

  • bkmn

    Once again these supposed Christians don’t even understand their own religion. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a43302d34e0ca2617a1bf16b04b2cd7c17b244cb7c7e1ea65897421983011918.jpg

  • Hank

    The Last Paragraph:

    Plaintiffs are not likely to succeed on the merits given that the Phoenix ordinance does not violate Plaintiffs’ right to free speech and does not impose a substantial burden on their exercise of religion. The possibility of irreparable injury is quite small, at best, given that Plaintiffs are free to express their beliefs on their business website and may practice their religious beliefs without substantial burden. The balance of hardships favors Defendant City, given the government’s interest in allowing its citizens to enjoy public accommodations free of discrimination based on sexual orientation. Finally, the public policy underlying anti- discrimination laws for sexual orientation runs contrary to the requested injunction. Thus, the Court declines to grant Plaintiffs the preliminary injunction requested in this case.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0f6b3aad68a49e6ead29182ac5e02dcad29a160ef21cfb8bc202a3d52c31980a.gif

    • RoverSerton

      Whenever you think a judge is just a lawyer that couldn’t make it, sit on a jury. I’m often impressed at just how good they are. What a great bitchslap.

      • Reality.Bites

        In law school my aunt was told the A students become professors, the B students become judges and the C students become millionaires.

  • MB

    http://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video_thumb/CdeEdUOUkAAQ_wq.jpg

    With my most sincere regards,
    ~~ ~~ Karen ~~ ~~

    Honorable Karen A. Mullins

  • Mike in Texas

    I’m looking forward to reading about a lot more of these special rights for Christians cases being smacked down over the next year.

    • Chucktech

      Oh, there’s plenty more to go, isn’t there?

      • Mike in Texas

        Yes … We’ve not even scratched the surface yet.

  • LeeCMH

    Onward Christian soldiers
    Marching right into war
    With your bombs for Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesus killing on before.

  • RoverSerton

    Wow, Todd Starnes will be so upset. I double dog dare the people to put on their web site they are not welcoming gay people. Please please please do it. Also, on your facebook page. What could possibly go wrong?/s.

  • MB
    • TuuxKabin

      IS)he’s getting quite the rounds today. I sent him off as an audience member reacting to Angela Lansbury singing Beauty and The Beast.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    These little victories will mean nothing if we all do not get out and vote for Hillary Clinton in November.

    Seriously America, what the fuck is this…

    • Adonisus

      Just remember, those are primarily phone polls, and are primarily answered by people around 40 or above.

      • ShawnSwagger

        538 uses a variety of different types of polls, including voice (phone) and internet polls, of both registered and likely voters, and they weight them differently according to how accurate they think they are.

    • Treant

      At the moment, I’m firmly convinced it’s poll manipulation to create a horse race so you’ll click and/or watch the news.

      Never trust polling until the second week of October, by which time the pollsters have to start gettin’ real or start losing veracity when their polling is four points too Republican.

    • Ross

      Rebecca,

      The important thing is the Electoral forecast. And with a 59% chance of winning, as your map shows, Hillary has 287 Electoral votes forecast (she needs 270).

      Moreover, the polls ALWAYS go up/down.

      OCTOBER 4, 2012: 538 had Obama with an 87% chance of winning.

      OCTOBER 12, 2012: Obama dropped like a stone, to 61% (and 283 Electoral votes), about where Hillary is now. Then, during the last few weeks of the election (when most people start paying attention)…

      NOVEMBER 5, 2012: …Obama shot up to 91%, and in the end received 332 Electoral votes.

      • 2amor

        But wait, your list only shows three people…… What about Jill—–what’s her name?

        • Ross

          Her name is Jill…Jill…ahhh…ummm…Smith?

          • OdieDenCO

            uh, I think it rhymes with whine

          • Ross

            Swine?

          • tempus

            You’re both wrong. Her name is Shrill Jill.

          • RJ Bone

            Rutabaga?

    • Beagle

      Scary, that’s what it is. Especially the trend line.

      • Ross

        Not really.

        Scary is 53% to 47%.

        Terrifying is 50% to 50%.

        Suicide-inducing is 49% to 51%.

        I am fine with 59% and more than enough Electoral votes.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    Ha Ha enjoy your Post Losing Ruling !

  • They didn’t have standing. But moreover, they could easily relocate their business to a Phoenix suburb without such an ordinance since the state of Arizona allows anti-gay discrimination.

    • NowAnAgnostic

      Just move to Scottsdale. Read an article last week that the City of Scottsdale was trying to take advantage of North Carolina’s economic woes, yet absolutely refuses to pass an ordinance protecting its LGBT citizens.

  • “pre-enforcement challenge”
    Smacks of Minority Report, where you can be convicted of a crime you haven’t committed yet.

    • NowAnAgnostic

      Kind of like all those “impure thoughts” the nuns and priests said you had to confess because the thought was just as bad as the act.

  • RKitty01
  • Acronym Jim

    Does Brush & Nibs sincerely held religious beliefs only allow them to do their work in Papyrus?

    If so, no thanks.

  • Bob Conti

    This is one of the simplest and most elegant balancing discussion between religious rights and governmental interests that I’ve read.

  • fuow

    Why the fucking hell do the mother-fucking christers think this is a Theocracy?

    • Tor

      Jesus told them so?

  • Jack

    Snap.

  • hillarybillary

    lulz. libtards can’t be tolerant if their life depended on it. I guess so-called gay ‘marriage’ is still a thing to those handful of homos who haven yet to throw their life away on a so-called gay wedding. how dare people have religious liberty that muslims get by default.

    I guess according to liberal logic out of 1.7billion adherents have Zero homosexuals. Only Christians. So sad, like a so-called homosexual ‘marriage’. lololol

    • (((GC)))
      • Interesting, but ultimately just sad. Dump the religion and all of them would feel free.

    • Friday

      What the F are you babbling about? There aren’t even any liberals or gay people *involved* in this case: it’s just a Christianist Etsy shop trying to whine that they’re oppressed by someone else having equal rights, …even if they’ve never had a gay customer. Or possibly any customers, for all we know. They’re the aggressors here, and over, literally *nothing.* They and the waaambulance-chasing ADF made this up all on their own.

    • agcons

      If you were coherent we could upgrade our assessment of you to “stupid”.

    • NO MORE GOP!

      You might want to put some Ranch dressing on that word salad.

      • Steve Teeter

        Nah. Make it blue cheese. It’s that white creamy goodness that he’s really after.

    • Silver Badger

      Feeding trolls is just wrong, no matter how good it feels.

    • 2amor

      I am sorry, you’re upset over what exactly? Because you make no fucking sense what so ever.

    • kareemachan

      Nurse Ratchett, bill’s meds are off again.

    • Tigernan Quinn

      Bitch, please. We lived through the ’80s, and Reagan. You calling us names and putting our relationships in air quotes really won’t change the reality, will it? Cool, now kindly fuck off.

    • Traxley Launderette

      And like that, BLOCKED.

    • kanehau

      Is that your way of saying you’d love some dick?

  • Ninja0980

    If you want a theocracy, move to the Middle East.

  • Tor

    ADF has pretty much the same “success” rate as Liberty Council.

  • mikeinrkfd

    Let’s refer everyone that is getting married to Brush and Nib!

    • Michael C

      …because we want to give these poor deluded, manipulated, and deceived rubes our hard earned cash? pish tosh.

  • agcons

    What a dreary name for a business. It’s like one of their bakeries calling themselves “Shortening & Sugar” or “Edible Oil Product & Flavourings”.

  • The Sentinel
    • 2patricius2

      God brought them together and god led them to buy an Apple laptop…..”Beautiful things, like Apple laptops, come from god….” :-0

    • Johnny Wyeknot

      Lesbians.

      • Stev84

        When I first saw their picture together I thought they are a nice couple

        • Johnny Wyeknot

          I know! So did I!

  • 2patricius2

    Alliance Defending Freedom is a misnomer. It should be called “Alliance Defending the License to Discriminate.”

  • anne marie in philly

    bwhahahahahahahaha! another xstain h8 smackdown!

  • Johnny Wyeknot

    Is this some sort of a misguided advertising scheme? At bottom, they have just turned their product ugly.

  • coram nobis

    It sets a standard on the whole scenario, not just the plaintiffs’ standing. It’s the torts principle, just to start a suit and not waste the court’s time, to show an actual, quantifiable injury. It’s the difference between suing because I ran my car over your foot and caused you pain, suffering and medical bills — or suing because I bought a car and might, someday, drive through your neighborhood.

    • Balderdashing

      Hmm, like Trump’s “deport all Muslims” policy?

  • JCF
  • Nic Peterson

    Did ADF even see it coming?

  • Mark

    I have to drive through AZ this weekend. I”m packing – – first time in the 25 years I’ve driven through AZ that I’m carrying as I drive.

  • Anne

    The real haters here are the left, with their oppressive rigged court systems, who are violating religious and creative liberties of innocent people by imposing their corrupted morals on others, forcing them to violate their conscious, threatening to utterly ruin their lives if they don’t comply. But people like the ass who wrote this article, would not dare pull this crap on Muslims, or other protected groups who don’t agree with the homosexual life style. Next pedophiles will demand that artist and cake decorators be forced to support screwing infants. But you of the left think of yourselves, with your ever downward shifting morals, to be so pure and righteous, when in reality you are vicious, oppressive, tyrants, whose best character trait is murderous vindictiveness.

    • Canadian Observer

      You forgot to mention our plan to “collectivize” all the hot young athletes and keep them in state-run brothels. That and confiscate your weapons.

      • agcons

        I support this proposed legislation.

    • Michael C

      …the real haters are those awful, mean legislators who thought the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a good idea. They thought it was okay to force racists to serve all customers equally. Next thing you know, bakeries will be forced to sell cakes to interracial couples even though interracial relationships are contrary to their closely held, personal religious beliefs.

      Religious freedom means refusing service to anyone you don’t like! Yay discrimination! To heck with you tyrants who just want to go about your public lives being treated the same as everyone else! You’re all just a bunch of fascists because you won’t let others force you to live your life by their standards!

    • ErickMN

      I would like to think that you were flailing your arms and gnashing your teeth when you posted that ugly tantrum. How unfortunate that you can’t entertain us with video. Jaw-droppingly hateful people like you richly deserve your self-imposed misery.

    • agcons

      Take your slippery slope stupidity and cram it (it’s already lubed).

    • Gianni

      That’s one hateful, sick mind you’re working with. Screwing infants? That’s a new one. Normally, we just spend all our time seducing little boys. However, I can guarantee you that if any Muslims own any public service businesses in any state where the anti-discrimination laws include ‘sexual orientation’ and they refuse to server gay customers, their asses will be in court just as quick as your Christian ass would be. There is nothing quite as disgustingly low as religious, God-ordained hatred and bigotry.

    • Ben in Oakland

      silly girl. You’re not going to pick up any tricks this way.

    • Ben in Oakland

      Screwing infants? The sick projections of a very sick mind. The kind of mind that would think that left wing people like screwing infants.
      Because we have no morals, I assume you mean. Chances are, if someone is doing it, it would be the father or step father, generally speaking, heterosexual.. Or, possibly, the pastor. Like the one recently arrested for screwing– such a lovely term you have there– a four year old girl who “wanted it.”

      • Outlaw Woman

        That’s how you can tell the differnce between a TRVE Christian (like Anne), and any old run-of-the-mill Christian …

        TRVE Christians love to scream about screwing infants (and often actually screwing infants) non-stop.

        Another TLC channel “Quiver-full” dad (The Willis Family show) was just charged today with child rape. Really, the louder they scream about it, the more likely they are to do it.

        • Ben in Oakland

          My oh my. These quiver full people are obsessed with sex and reproduction.

          Or maybe it’s just sex, and they need to make their obsession holy..

    • Ben in Oakland

      A former Ohio mayor indicted on rape charges reportedly confessed that he had sex with a child — a young girl, who, the man claimed, was a willing participant. He also said he was a warrior for chirst.

      Court records filed Monday describe conversations in which Richard Keenan — who briefly served as the mayor of Hubbard — talked to several people, including his wife and a pastor, about alleged assaults that occurred over the course of two years, beginning in 2013, when the girl was 4.

      Richard Keenan, a former mayor of Hubbard, Ohio. (Trumbull County Sheriff’s Office)

      The 65-year-old Keenan, who once described himself as a man of faith, was indicted last month on eight counts of gross sexual imposition, eight counts of rape and four counts of attempted rape.

      ________________

    • Outlaw Woman

      Please note “Anne” is an unregistered coward.

      Allow me to make some translations from nut-job gobbeldygook into English …

      “oppressive rigged court system” means “System of laws based on the concept of equal rights”.

      “corrupted morals” means, again, “believing in equal rights”.

      “on Muslims or other protected groups” means “anybody who isn’t white”.

      “pedophiles” means “my crazy nut-job imaginary strawman”.

      “vicious, oppressive tyrants” means “gay people who won’t stay in the closet”.

      “murderous vindictiveness” means “how dare you get mouthy with me !!!!”

    • lymis

      Cute how you think nobody would enforce anti-discrimination laws against Muslim employers or merchants.

      Clue for you darling. Christians are ALREADY a protected group. Y’all just think it means you’re exempt from anything you don’t like. Doesn’t work that way.

      Meanwhile, you sure seem perfectly okay with imposing your morals on people, forcing them to violate their consciences, and threatening to ruin their lives if they don’t comply, if you disapprove of them.

      But that’s hardly surprising.

    • JustSayin’

      Lying sow of a troll..go back under your bridge

  • coram nobis

    Looking over the thread, I note, as Tom Lehrer once observed at one of his concerts, “The outpatients are out in force tonight, I see.”

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  • JustSayin’

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