The Advocate Reports On Trolling And JMG

Advocate executive editor Neal Broverman interviewed me recently and today published his story about this here website thingy, our commenting community, and how we deal with the growing troll problem that has forced some sites to do away with commenting entirely. Hit the link to read my kind words about you. This is also a good opportunity to suggest that newer JMG readers take a look at our short list of rules for commenting. I continue to be grateful that the vast majority here treat each other with kindness and respect.

  • PickyPecker
    • Michael Rush
    • Michael White

      I wish i could thumbs up you a million times. This is why I love this site. The humor and serious comments are so spot on

      • ByronK

        Agreed!

    • Bluto

      I come for the Joe & stay for all the wonderfully witty, snarky bitches.

      • olandp

        Same thing.

        • Butch

          Agreed. I think I’m about to have a bad lapse in grammar, but this is the only site where I routinely comment.

          • Roger

            Probably this is the only site where I comment AT ALL. Why care to comment in a site without this smart, snarky, all fabulous audience?

          • Danieruw

            This is the ONLY site where I read the comments. And this is my first comment (long time reader, though)

          • Colonel Panic.

            Hello, good evening and welcome.

          • LADY MABELINE

            We don’t bite/Anita/The dress shop/To Chino

          • B Snow

            …until we know you better.

          • …aw, a virgin! Now that your cherry has been popped, don’t be shy

          • Always fun to watch a cherry popped these days πŸ™‚ Welcome —

          • Beckywrucker1

            Google is paying 97$ per hour! Work for few hours and have longer with friends & family! !mj272d:
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          • ChrisMorley

            FLAGGED and REPORTED x9

      • Blackfork

        We aim to please (you), doll.

      • Oscarlating Wildely

        It’s just not a happy day without you snarky bitches!

        • Anastasia Beaverhousen

          Oh honey you are soooo right. Now Oscarlate your ass over here with my drink.

        • JulieBL

          This str8 ally totes agrees!
          I’ve been reading and commenting here off and on for over 10 years.

          Let’s just say I’ve learned a lot.. o_O

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        Hehehehehehe, don’t we all.

      • Uncle Mark

        I’ve only just discovered this site this year, but it’s quickly become my “happy place.” Joe is incredible with the almost neverending reporting and perspective….with that extra bit of snark, and all the brilliant, inciteful, creative, and funny commenters here feel like old friends. This is the place I find myself habitually retreating to when I want to catch the news, unwind, vent, or laugh. I love it here at Joe’s. If only drinks were served here…

        • Ray Taylor

          They are 24 hours. BYO.

        • Bluto

          Drinks & more nudity.

          • Joseph Miceli

            All out of hot man pics, but here’s some wild pussy for you… and she’s barely legal!

          • B Snow

            Awwwww!!!!

      • barracks9

        You rang? πŸ™‚

        • Joseph Miceli

          “Frank, I have a sick headache. Fetch me a martini!”
          Mrs. Stevens.

    • TuuxKabin

      I use that when people reply to an email asking, “where do you find those things?” I sent the Advocate article to everyone.

    • Bernie Keefe

      ^^^THIS!

    • Richard, another Canuck

      And I’m still here, hours and hours later soaking it in, not always commenting, but feeling the community that is JMG. Thanks Joe!

    • Joe in PA

      I’m just here for PickyPecker’s graphics (well, and everything else). Good job PP!

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    β€œMy [tolerant] readers take care of [the trolls],” he says. β€œSome of them rather enjoy taking care of it.”

    Indeedy. It’s considered a duty.

    • Paula

      A sacred duty!

    • PickyPecker

      and some of the exchanges get me busting out laughing!!

      • Paul

        My favourite is still the bouncing buttplug response to anything BP used to post.

      • Christopher

        I love when a thread is hijacked by a Troll and it turns into a really great read! There was one about a month ago that had me rolling!

    • Gustav2

      Well, I never…

      • olandp

        I find that hard to believe…

      • Mister Don

        Fiddlesticks! You’ve been things and done places!

      • David Walker

        Bet you do sometimes.

        • Gustav2

          Sometime between Christmas and New Years, his birthday and our anniversary…lol

          • KCMC

            recalling Mae West scene, crossing legs (which she had just named one leg Thanksgiving, the other Xmas)…
            “Why don’t you come up and see me sometime…between the holidays. Mmmm.”
            What movie was that?!

    • greenmanTN

      And not a bad way to work out agression.

      • PickyPecker

        I enjoy the exchanges best when there’s just sheer wit involved and not so much the profanities. Verbal fencing really takes the wind out of most of the trolls (ie. they’re just not all that bright).

        • Tearing down a troll with biting wit is so much more satisfying to see than the simple brutal rage responses they are trying to achieve. It’s like the difference between Oscar Wilde and Mike Tyson.

          • jmax

            Poor Mike. Faded into Bolivian.

          • Acronym Jim

            Oh? Is he going by Miguel these days?

          • Bite someone’s ear off and you never hear the end of it…

          • perversatile

            Or Oscar Wilde versus Oscar Meyer

          • Uncle Mark

            Although, I wonder if Oscar Wilde would’vet enjoyed a little ear-nibbling from Mike Tyson

          • David Walker

            Or sampling Oscar Meyer’s wiener.

          • Uncle Mark

            I was thinking more choking Tyson’s chicken.

          • Uncle Mark

            Or more likely, choking Tyson’s chicken. (Can you get bird flu from choking your chicken?). ;^P

          • Joseph Miceli

            Well, I do love baiting BP.

        • greenmanTN

          Uh-oh. I tend to be rather profane. I blame Walmart. “Would you PLEASE get the fuck outta my way?!”

          • Gustav2

            You sound like my husband.

          • greenmanTN

            “I realize you haven’t seen each other since church on Sunday, but is it really necessary to park your buggies next to each other and block the whole goddamn aisle?!”

          • Gustav2

            “Do you drive your car on the left side of the road?!”

          • Church? Not here in Central Florida even though you can’t swing a dead cat without hitting a church (or as I like to think of them – cult temples) It’s more likely the aisle-blockers just left the nearest Golden Corral (apologies, but there are a lot of morbidly obese folks around here)

        • Gustav2

          Or telling them they are here because they want a date, then when they reply over and over and over…

        • LADY MABELINE

          My bad. I will work on not saying F$&@ so much going forward.

          • ColdCountry

            Me, too. πŸ™

          • …what about saying fuck going backwards?

      • Uncle Mark

        It’s the best way to work out aggression during the workday or immediately thereafter. Destroying trolls keeps me from stomping on co-workers & clients.

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      OT: But a judge ruled today that Bobbi Christina’s BF / Killer is liable for her death in Civil Court – to the tune of $ 50 mil
      11alive.com

    • dr morbius

      troll = non-Clinton worshipper

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        Oh come on. I think It’s time we asked you for your papers.

        • kareemachan

          Can we make them take a course in effective trolling before letting them comment here? Cuz morb is pretty ineffective.

          • John30013

            That’s the thing about trolls: they usually only have one or two “arguments”, typically based on innuendo, half-truths, or debunked stories (often from dubious sources in the first place). Plus, their reading comprehension tends to be low. So it’s pretty easy to knock them down with a bit of logic and wit.

        • Joseph Miceli

          Jesus! I love Bernie…but he lost. How many times is Morbius going to try to refight that battle? The important thing to focus on is Trump Trump Trump TRUMP!!!!!

      • Uncle Mark

        I am hardly a Clinton “worshiper.” She’s hardly my favorite politician, but compared to the orange shit show out there, I’ll treat her like a goddess. I think you’ll also find, that if she does something this community does not approve of, a good number of folks here will be the first to hold her feet to the fire.

        • NancyP

          “troll” = anyone who favors Trump or favors tactics (third parties) that assist Trump.
          Clinton isn’t the “perfect” candidate, but “good enough” is fine for me. There is no “perfect” candidate. Bernie was low on foreign policy knowledge and admitted it – he concentrated on domestic policy, and was too much of a purist to really accomplish much. It is great to have some really liberal people in the US Senate (and Congress) but a president needs to lead the party as well as the nation, needs to be able to make compromises. The ACA wasn’t the “perfect” health care law – but it’s a start.

      • Carl

        You don’t have to worship her, but if you’re too dim to see she’s all that’s standing between you and the supremacists who want you dead, you won’t get a lot of respect. And no, we don’t buy your St. Bernie fantasies, not that it matters anymore.

      • Furface

        Even the Krell don’t like you.

        • John30013

          Neither, for that matter, do the Sisters of Karn.

          And +1000 for referencing one of my all-time favorite movies!

      • RoFaWh

        You are projecting. Drumpf’s many dupes “worship” him, but nobody worships Ms. Clinton We respect her, even when we don’t fully agree with her, but worship? No way.

        • Roger

          And when you come to think it better, standing besides Drumpf makes Hill image improve mightly. The Orange Jabba makes any politician look better by comparison. Even Mike Pence looks reasonable when is near The Great Orange one.

          • David Walker

            Let’s not get too carried away, Roger.

          • Roger

            Yep some things donΒ΄t look better even besides a train wreck; “The Pence” is such a case. My bad.

  • Pollos Hermanos
  • PickyPecker
    • But do feel free to treat them the way a dog treats a rawhide chew-toy. πŸ™‚

  • teeveedub

    There are so many smart, educated folks in JMG’s comment sections that trolls usually make a hasty retreat.

    • PickyPecker

      …and if not, there is the disqus ‘BLOCK’ feature that works very well. For those simpler trolls who are not registered, everyone should arm themselves with ‘KILLFILE’ to use if need be. These tools make the threads here at JMG so much less cluttered with their bile.

      • bambinoitaliano

        I’ve been using that button a lot. All I have to do is read the regular members responses. I won’t even waste my time reading the trolls comments.

      • Indeed, Killfile and the Disqus block feature are essential.

        For those who don’t know, ‘Killfile’ is a browser extension for both Chrone and Firefox which can ‘Hush’ a person or hide individual comments. What it does is key off the person’s listed name in the comment, and therefore works regardless whether the individual has an actual registered Disqus account or is just posting as a Guest user. When you Hush someone, their comments are replaced by “Comment by (username) blocked.” The browser extension is available in the Firefox extensions library and the Google Play store (for Chrome), both accessible via the Settings > Get More Extensions functions.

        For Disqus blocking, to the right of any comment, there’s a down-pointing triangle. If you click on it, one of the options is “Block User.” Unlike Killfile, Disqus-level blocking is even more thorough and doesn’t even list their name. Their comment is simply replaced with “This user is blocked”. Its weakness, however, is it doesn’t work on Guest commenters and produces just an error message if tried.

        In either case, if someone is really getting under your skin, I personally recommend at least giving them a Killfile ‘Hush’ timeout so that YOU don’t have to be triggered. Or, if you truly don’t ever want to see anything by them again and they’re a registered Disqus account, just block ’em. You can unblock later if you really want to, via your Disqus profile page.

        • Ernest Endevor

          Don’t think that kill file is available for Safari. I’ll check.

          • If it’s not, at least the Block function is available and works with about 90% of the trolls.

            I’ve taken personally to using Killfile when I feel I need a break from someone, but don’t want to go so far as never to hear from them again.

          • Ernest Endevor

            Good to know. Thanks.

    • Uncle Mark

      So true. I can’t count the number of times I’ve seen the ignorant, hateful, fact-challenged trolls exorcised from this site with facts, logic & information…and always…brilliant witticisms. So many of you have shined your light to make these cockroaches scurry away.

  • β€œThere are gay transphobes, gay racists, gay misogynists.”

    I’m not saying I know this person, but I’m just saying this suspiciously sounds like a former co-worker of mine.

  • Gustav2

    “As a semi-hardened New Yorker”

    Just exactly went on in the interview?

    • Paula

      😳😳😳😳

    • As George Takei would say, “Oh MY!”

    • Skokieguy [Larry]

      Well done sir!

    • Oscarlating Wildely

      Totally not Joe’s fault. NYC heat will do that. Happens to tons of men all the time.

      • bambinoitaliano

        Hmmmm I seem to recall there was tumblr page devoted to that. Something about NY bulge πŸ˜›

        • Oscarlating Wildely

          Oh that! Shots along Fifth Avenue. Much better scoping in person if you stand by Saint Pat’s and look north, particularly right around 4:30. You see some doozies!
          At least my friend told me so.

          • Chuck in NYC

            Try Grand Central Station late Sunday morning, when a seeming endless flow of good-looking young gentlemen are catching Metro North trains back to wherever they came from.

    • Rex

      The writer obviously asked some hard probing questions and got Joe to open up to take them over and over and over.

    • Robert Stultz

      Glad to see that my mind wasn’t the only one that went in that direction.

      • Gustav2

        Notice he is not telling.

    • JCF

      Tee-hee!

  • greenmanTN

    I know this is going to sound like toadying, but the JMG commenting community is really great. Smart, funny, and don’t take no shit!

    • It doesn’t sound like toadying — it’s a simple statement of fact.

  • Paula

    I live for the snark. A virtual Gay bar? Hmmm. I’d like send a drink over to that hot chic in San Francisco and in NM. πŸ˜€πŸΎπŸΎπŸΎ

    • PickyPecker

      We’ll need to see your dRUMPf exective gold card, first. πŸ™‚

      • coram nobis

        Yes, although gold may be the entry level — ascending from there through Platinum, Palladium, and Plutonium.

        http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/160815102148-trump-card-35-dollars-780×439.jpg

        • PickyPecker

          Ahhhh, welcome elusive Monsieur Your Name Here. We have your usual table ready.

          • coram nobis

            Has Maj. Strasser come in yet? Milo Y. is looking for him.

          • Paula

            Perfect!

        • Clive Johnson

          Perhaps ending in Anti-matter, disguised as a Trump steak.

          • coram nobis

            Or polonium.

    • CanuckDon

      Having no gay bars in my city anymore, JMG certainly has been a greater-than-great replacement. More wisdom and hotness than ever before!

      • coram nobis

        Sort of a mashup of Rick’s CafΓ© Americain and a NoΓ«l Coward marvellous party.

        • David Walker

          And what a swell party it is…knock on wood.

    • Rebecca Gardner

      We should have a Joe My God group meeting in Vegas or something. I think that would be so awesome.

      • jsmukg

        Let’s start planning it, Rebecca.

        • Rebecca Gardner

          I seriously think we should. JMG Vegas Summer 2017

          • jsmukg

            I’m serious too. trade contact info?

          • pch1013

            Vegas? Summer? Blech. Especially for those of us who ride motorcycles.

          • Rebecca Gardner

            I’m just throwing out ideas. I’m a biker too. Where would you suggest?

            I think something like this would be cool. There are so many people here I would just love to meet in person.

          • pch1013

            Maybe a non-summer meetup? Like in May or October?

          • Rebecca Gardner

            That too.

          • pch1013

            It would be fun to hold it right under the nose of one of the most noxious trolls of all (who seems to have given up on JMG ever since the killfile and block tools became available). πŸ˜€

          • StraightGrandmother

            Memorial Day week-end that way it is a 3 day week-end.

          • Vista-Cruiser

            Memorial Day weekend in Chicago for IML.

          • Acronym Jim

            How about (west coast) Portland?

            (Yes, I’m biased)

          • Ragnar Lothbrok

            Omaha is central and pretty πŸ™‚

          • barracks9

            There’s always New Orleans πŸ™‚ Then we could take a road trip over to Tony P’s McMansion and have a gay old time!

          • StraightGrandmother

            Well I think we should go to Texas, and… we’ll think of something appropriate to do there. Like go someplace really RED. Hey let’s go to Kim Davis’ home town, what is the name of it again?

          • pch1013

            but realistically, location-wise, I guess it would have to be someplace relatively central that is also an airline hub.

            To me, that says Denver, Chicago, or Minneapolis.

          • JCF

            Isn’t Vegas a hub?

          • ColdCountry

            If it didn’t mean spending money there, I’d suggest NC, just for the trolling value.

          • FAEN

            If it’s NC I suggest Asheville. What a gorgeous pro gay city.

          • MT YVR

            Circuit party. The JMG Pub Crawl Across ‘Murica!

            Pub because they also have food and may make some feel safer than a straight up bar.

          • Anastasia Beaverhousen

            I’ll host in upstate NY. I love to throw a party.

          • Carl

            Sounds fun. “Hi, I’m Carl. You know, awkward typo guy!”

      • Canadian Observer

        Not Vegas, too close to Silicon Valley and Peter Thiel (remember, distance is relative). I would suggest Chicago.

        • David Walker

          My relatives are distant. Does that count?

        • pj

          during IML

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        Only if you make it mandatory that everyone where a Large patch of their Disqus ID.

        • StraightGrandmother

          That would be AWESOME.

        • Rebecca Gardner

          Totally!

        • FAEN

          Absolutely

      • FAEN

        It would be EPIC!

  • bambinoitaliano

    I always depend on the kindness of the members here to keep me in line πŸ™‚ I am continuing to learn how to express myself and exercise restrain on a daily basis. Thank you Joe and many many of the members here.

  • Cuberly
    • Lumpy Gaga

      I’m in, although FUCK Betty White.

      • Cuberly

        lol…uh oh, now ya done it. πŸ˜‰

        • luvluvluv Betty White.

          • barracks9

            I have a special place in my heart for Betty White. During the aftermath of Katrina (as in a day or two after the levees failed and 80% of the City flooded), Betty put her money where her “I love animals” mouth has always been, and paid for the rescue of the African penguins (and their caretakers) out of the Aquarium of the Americas here in New Orleans. She also funded their continued care at Monterey Bay.

      • shivadog

        What did Betty do to piss you off?

        • Acronym Jim

          I think Lumpy just wants to have sex with Betty White.

        • Lumpy Gaga

          Bea Arthur apparently despised her for a number of reasons, including the cut of the profits White (and not the others) enjoyed for being on the wagon early. I was speaking as Bea Arthur.

          As I often do.

          • pj

            noted

          • KCMC

            recalling friars roast, “I wouldn’t fuck her..
            -with Bea Arthur’s dick.”

          • Cuberly

            Didn’t Betty say she wasn’t quite sure why Bea was so snarky to her off camera?

          • I didn’t know she got paid more. I knew that Bea did not like Betty while Betty adored Bea. White in interviews seemed perplexed by this and it certainly didn’t hurt the show. Sounds sort of like the Kim Cattrall-Sarah Jessica Parker relationship.

          • JCF

            LOL

          • cleos_mom

            The other two had drinking problems?

    • Canadian Observer

      Wondering why the wrinkles don’t interlock the same way velcro does?

    • Joseph Miceli

      Can I still be a bitch to Bill Perdue?

      • FAEN

        I think that’s in the bylaws.

        • Joseph Miceli

          LOL, I’ll never block him. He’s too much fun!

          • FAEN

            πŸ˜‰

            I know what you mean.

      • Cuberly

        But of course πŸ˜‰

  • VodkaAndPolitics

    Awwwe! We do have a good group here! But we’ve got younger folks up in this hizzy too!!!!!!

    • Salton

      Disqus won’t let me upvote you. Maybe I’m too old!

      • No matter. I upvoted on your behalf. (and mine too)

        • Salton

          Thank you for your kindness. I just tried again and it worked! Les joyeusetΓ©s de l’Γ©lectronique!

      • Schlukitz

        Disqus has been acting real weird lately.

        I don’t know how many times I have clicked on the up vote button, only to have the entire page shift up five or six comments or send me to the private profiles page.

        It is also sometimes very difficult to go page a page without having to click the button three of four times to make it happen.

        WTF?

        • Salton

          To paraphrase my favorite book (hum!), Electronics work in mysterious ways! In French it would be, Les voies de l’Γ©lectronique sont impΓ©nΓ©trables!

  • Joe, I just want to thank you for providing us with this here home. There are times, especially during this election cycle, when I think it’s the only thing keeping me sane and helping me retain the last few shreds of my equanimity.

    • Rex

      This election is the very definition of “if you don’t laugh, you’ll cry.”

      • Amen to that.

      • RoverSerton

        I’ll cry if Trump wins. SCOTUS, gone for the rest of my life.

        • FAEN

          If Dumpster wins it will be because too many of our citizens are stupid and easily manipulated.

          I’ve never meant it as much but should he win it’s time to think of moving to Canada.

          • Joseph Miceli

            I wonder if I should pack up the Jeep and head for the Sea of Cortez. I’ve always wondered what it was like there.

          • FAEN

            I’d keep it all ready just in case. Yes I am THAT worried.

    • abel

      Amen, amen, amen!

    • Jamie_Johnson

      equanimity

      Points!

    • joeyj1220

      YES! And I find the comments section in both The Advocate and Out to be filled with self-hating, homocons!!

      • FAEN

        I find quite a few homocons on Towleroad as well.

    • Joseph Miceli

      Ditto!!! Thank you Joe! This became my home after Huffpo sold out. I know it can’t last forever, but I hope it does.

      • FAEN

        Ditto to your ditto. I loved Huffpo until it was get a FB account or no commenting. Worked out better in the end.

  • Oscarlating Wildely

    Per the article, Joe, you are our favorite blogging deviant sodomite and homosexual buccaneer http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_makcwqkRTa1qzln1d.jpg.

    • shellback

      Where are your homosexual buccaneers?
      Under my homosexual buccan-hat
      [old joke – sorry]

    • Beagle

      Buccaneer? That’s a pretty high price for corn.

      • Anastasia Beaverhousen

        Ok favorite pirate joke…
        Pirate walks into a bar with a steering wheel attached at his crotch.
        The bartender says, “hey bud, you got a steering wheel stuck to your crotch!”
        The pirate says, “Rrrrr and it’s drivin’ me nuts!”

    • Joseph Miceli

      ARGH!!!!

  • JustSayin’

    Homosexual Buccaneer…i need that Tshirt for the next Pirate Week Convention here in NOLA

    • Skokieguy [Larry]

      And you can get free donuts at Crispy Creme on Monday

      http://www.krispykreme.com/Pirate

      • shellback

        “Page Not Found”

        • Skokieguy [Larry]

          Not sure what happened, just google Crispy Creme + pirate. They are having a promotion this Monday.

          • (((GC)))

            From Krispy Kreme’s site: http://www.krispykreme.com/Events/Pirate2016

            Say β€˜ahoy’ to your free Original Glazed doughnut! […] participating shops in the United States and Canada will celebrate Talk Like a Pirate Day on Sept. 19.

            Any swashbuckling guest who talks like a pirate will receive one free Original Glazed doughnut, while fans who dress like a pirate will receive one dozen Original Glazed doughnuts.

            For the first time this year, guests can also use a custom Krispy Kreme Snapchat pirate filter to digitally β€˜dress’ like a pirate. Any guest who shows their Snapchat image at a participating shop will qualify for a dozen Original Glazed doughnuts. Show your snap to a team member inside the shop and score ye bounty. Arrrr….

            Qualifying pirate costumes must include three pirate items, such as an eye patch or bandana.

            Offer excludes the following locations:
            AK:Anchorage
            CT: Casino Locations
            NC: Hickory & Lenoir
            Puerto Rico
            SC: Spartanburg & Anderson

          • Skokieguy [Larry]

            I bet NC is participating, but denying donuts to homos, because of their sincerely held religious beliefs.

      • (((GC)))
        • Skokieguy [Larry]

          Thank you! We should not let the opportunity for free donuts go un-promoted!

          And when told the link I posted didn’t work, I should have totally responded: Aaaaaarhg!

          • (((GC)))

            Arrrrrr, matey! ‘Tis a good thing that ye can click on “Edit”, shiver me timbers!

  • Mlawrence

    Joe, it’s great to see you getting some recognition.

  • Oikos
    • Cuberly

      Surprisingly I don’t block that many, outside of one troll I find particularly nasty. It’s a useful feature don’t get me wrong.

      • Oikos

        My tolerance has worn thin for trolls and their nonsense. Also the quality of trolling has experienced a precipitous decline.

        • PickyPecker

          dRUMPf trolls are currently the worst of the lot.

          • Cuberly

            Oh lordy, they’re like velcro, they stalk you too. If you mention gamergate or alt-right on twitter they start swarming you and clicking your follow icon. I have to purge my followers every now again after viewing some of their comments.

            Just this past week I was swarmed by gamergaters on twitter and it was creepy. They purposely search twitter for mentions then attack.

          • Oikos

            I’ve heard people saying that. Good people, the best people.

          • PickyPecker

            It has gotten to the point that when I visit MMFA comments section, at least a good half of the folks there are blocked (and for good reason, I might add).

          • Oikos

            I have 24 pages (10 trolls per page) of blocked disqus commenters. Most of them are on MMFA.

        • Cuberly

          Yeah, we used to get more holy rollers damning us all to hell. That sure seems to have tapered off quite a bit. Now it seems we get the random wayward breitbarter and they’re easily chased out the door for the most part.

          • Oscarlating Wildely

            “we used to get more holy rollers damning us all to hell.”
            Hell: Where the parties are so much better than heaven and you know everyone’s outfits are absolutely fabulous. Eternal damnation: Ah! It touches me so.

          • Cuberly

            I see you have on your trademark gold lame’ shorts and your flaming batons at the ready….;)

          • Oscarlating Wildely

            That and my feather boa.
            Come, dance the hora with me and partake of my rainbow colored huka.

          • Cuberly

            lol….Weeeeeeeeeeeee! Can I wear my cha cha heels?

          • (((GC)))

            Actually, the heaven boosters have a long record of misinformation, beginning with the first couple of chapters of Genesis, where Yahweh clearly lies while the snake tells the truth. (The editor of God’s Big Book of Propaganda should have been fired!)

            Given that, and the many intelligent, skilled, and compassionate people supposedly damned to hell, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the place is air conditioned — magically, everyone finds it comfortable no matter what they’re wearing, or not! πŸ™‚ — and the only pain and “torture” is safe, sane, consensual sensation-seeking by folks who are into that.

        • Schlukitz

          As has mine.

          Getting to damned old and ornery to put up with the bs anymore. πŸ˜‰

      • greenmanTN

        I haven’t blocked anyone yet, mainly because I have long term plans for them…

        https://youtu.be/PW_02k7LRMo

        • Cuberly

          lol…that works.

          Half the time trolls are entertaining more than anything. Some even have a point now and again.

          • David Walker

            Oooooo. Don’t let that get around.

          • Cuberly

            Ha!…..I’ll keep it under my hat. πŸ˜‰

          • Schlukitz

            A little boy goes out trick or treating by himself on Halloween Eve and rings the doorbell of the first house that he comes to.

            A smiling lady answers the door, looks at his costume and says “And what are we dressed up to be?”

            “A pirate.” the little boy answers.

            “Oh, I see” says the lady. “But where are your buccaneers?

            Without missing a beat, the little boy replies “Under me buckin’ hat…where do ya think?”

          • Cuberly

            HA!

        • David Walker

          Thank you. I like the line later in the movie where she includes “mangy” in the “little dog” reference.
          It also reminds me (and I’m sorry…this would have been our 38th anniversary) of an evening with Jack in a gay bar in Philadelphia. We were sitting at the bar, a kind of crowded evening, and thanks to the jostling nature of the group, somebody spilled his drink on Jack. Never missing a beat, Jack stood up and started yelling at the guy, “You cursed brat! Now see what you’ve done! I’m melting…melting…” and he sat down, turned his back, and continued with his drink. The guy had no idea what happened to him and the rest of the patrons were kind of dumbstruck, too. It’s one of the reasons I loved him, I think…fastest comebacks in the east.

          • “Go away and never darken my Dior again!”
            (Audrey Hepburn to the waiter who spilled red wine on her dress)

  • Skokieguy [Larry]

    Nice piece (as if that’s the first time you’ve heard that). Joe, besides your amazing energy, often posting 7 days a week, the comments, with their humor, intelligence, bravery and (usually) lack of vitriol are why I am such a fan of JMG. I remember the first time you used one my tips and I squealed like a 14 year old at a Brittney concert.

    I often leave the site smarter, entertained, and touched by the range of comments and ideas regularly posted and discussed here. You’ve created an online family.

    The ‘slow clap’ GIF is totally appropriate for everything you do, but I’ve used it too many times.

    • TampaDink

      Yet another prime example of excellent commenting, that first line really made me chuckle.

      • Skokieguy [Larry]

        You’re too sweet. Honestly, scroll down to Gustav2, he wins the comment thread.

        • Gustav2

          Pshaw.

    • Jenni

      SAME! I sent Joe a link a few years ago and nearly died *DIED* when he posted it!
      I don’t comment with a high frequency, but do read comments daily. I love this community, every bit. Thanks to you Joe!

  • Rex

    JMG is my go-to site for news and entertainment. The entertainment being in the form of comments that make me smile, chuckle, or full-on laugh.
    I also appreciate the up-votes and comments on my comments, and the tolerance for my sense of humor. I look forward to reading the comments as much as Joe’s posts. Oh, and the comparison to a gay bar? I was always ignored at the bars, at least here I get a little attention now and then.

    • shellback

      Ignored at the bars? Rex, I would have been all over you like a cheap suit.

    • David Walker

      I’m with shellback. I find that hard to believe. At least you’ve found your way here.

    • Jenni

      I went on a news-fast (kind of) a few years ago. The one exception? This site. I visit it daily and have for some time. I can’t imagine that changing any time. I too love the entertainment portion, and especially when Joe posts kitty stuff! (I <3 Shelly!)

      • John30013

        This is about the only place I get my “news” any more. I certainly don’t watch the MSM, although I do listen to NPR. (In a way, maybe Sarah Palin had it right with her “lame-stream media” epithet. And no, I can’t believe I just wrote that either…). I realize this site has a certain bias–but it’s heavily tilted toward facts rather than innuendo or sensationalism. And the commenters usually provide some balance on the rare occasions when it’s needed.

        Joe hasn’t used any of my tips yet (though I really haven’t provided many), but I did practically turn a cartwheel the first time StraightGrandmother replied to one of my posts, which is probably the next best thing :-).

    • Schlukitz

      Well you certainly got a lot of well-deserved attention with your post.

      40 up votes.

      Oh my!

    • FAEN

      I can’t imagine why. You’re a hot looking man.

    • Joseph Miceli

      Maybe you intimidate them. Or maybe they’re just stupid. I would have made a fool of myself over you.
      πŸ™‚

    • Chris Baker

      Yes, I also read a lot of the comments, even on articles that I may not care about. Good to hear all the differing views.

  • The rules says nothing about posting seductive gifs, so here’s a seductive gif of a bear dancing https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9273b7a76837c09612f04a5fa0fc6e2523bcbfa486a734859d11b4afe71bf7a2.gif

    • djcoastermark

      Ooh la la !

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Pedobear, NO!

      • Skokieguy [Larry]

        Although Brian Brown gave out lots of candy and danced awkwardly for donations in Times Square, he was not able to meet his fundraising goal.

    • Jon Doh

      Aw that’s cute, now I can’t resist posting one of my favorite bear activity.

      • ohbear1957

        Here’s one of my favorite bear activities.

      • Smokey

        Was out with the cub today and am late to the JMG party but here are some bears to make up for it.

        • FAEN

          HELLO and THANKS 😈

  • kirtanloorii

    Very nice. I love this community, and I never say that. So happy to be here.

  • TK

    When I first started commenting here I thought it was a big bear community and it scared me.

    • Bluto

      I hope you have since discovered that everyone is welcome here. Young, old. Gay, Straight. Male, female & everyone in between. Lions & tigers & bears & otters & wolves & unicorns… Everyone.
      & besides, bears aren’t that scary.

      • Ernest Endevor

        Oh no?

      • RoFaWh

        Pink thong:

        http://gregghomme.com/image/data/products/95004-54-close-angle.jpg

        Since I sometimes wear such a garment and own a baseball cap with “BEAR” stitched into the front, I can assure the collective commentariat that the subject of the joke exists in real life.

        My only real disappointment with JMG (actually, with the collective commentariat) is that none of them have spoken up to tell us about their adoption of those excellent Gregg Homme undies. The best undies, the very best. Never mind my posting photos of them from time to time.

        [Actually, the GH men’s undies are very good. Some of the designs are unquestionably a little odd, but most turn out to be very comfortable in spite of any oddities. They range from “so light you don’t even realize you have them on” to “gives definite, firm support and never lets you forget it.”]

        So light you don’t notice you are wearing it:

        http://gregghomme.com/image/data/products/1-55/1215_showoff/121534-10-close-side.JPG

        Gives definite, firm support:

        http://ep.yimg.com/ay/abcunderwear/gregg-homme-fuel-super-jock-7.jpg

        • Schlukitz

          One could loin a thing or two gazing at that pic….

    • bambinoitaliano

      The bears here are cute and harmless. And very huggable πŸ™‚

      • Oscarlating Wildely

        ….kind of like your avatar, TK…..

    • bambinoitaliano

      See?

      • StraightGrandmother

        That’s sweet

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      Not me, I’m just an old twink.

    • I’m just a middle-aged sliding into senior-age gay-married Bi lady. We have all types here.

  • TuuxKabin

    “Without You I’m Nothing”.

    • The Milkman

      Unequivocally one of the finest comedic achievements of the 1980s. It is to be memorized, verbatim, by every homosexual man.

  • greenmanTN

    Good evening, godless sodomites!

    https://youtu.be/d6VHZcR4xLQ

    (Glad you’re here.)

  • Rebecca Gardner

    Nice story and how do I get a Deviant Sodomite T-Shirt? That’s awesome!

    • PickyPecker

      OMG…I can just see you cruising out on your bike wearing one of those!!

      • Lumpy Gaga

        Sodomite, sure, but how do you show deviance? Ride outside the bike lanes??

        • Oikos

          Dildos hanging from the handle bars.

          • Oscarlating Wildely

            and strapped on to the seats.

        • Rebecca Gardner

          Deviance is the easy part. I have my club colors on when I ride. I’m the Road Captain in the Legion of Sin MC.

  • Ninja0980

    Great story and it’s true, toying with trolls is fun.

    • Schlukitz

      As long as they do not sink to ad hominem attacks, religious proselytizing, insults and name-calling.

      When they break any of those ToS, they should, rightfully, be banned.

  • djcoastermark

    That’s why I love this site. The people, the news, the education, the wit and humor, and on and on. Really thankful for JMG.

  • JoyZeeBoy

    Before there was a WWW (or Mosaic browser), there was CompuServe which had lots of rules and regulations for posting, and moderators and section leaders who monitored everything and had the power to kick out anyone who repeatedly crossed the line. The number one rule regarding all posts was this: “Thou shalt NOT engage in ad hominem attacks.” IOW, feel free to attack the ideas, but not the people postulating them.

    • Schlukitz

      That should be a Golden Rule on all web sites.

      Nothing reduces a wonderful site to a seething cesspool of bigotry and hatred faster than ad hominem attacks.

      It is perfectly alright to disagree with someone. There is, however, no need to be disagreeable about it.

  • Bernie Keefe

    Joe, I’ve appreciated you since 2009, and for publishing my little tat with Rick Green over calling ACPeds the ‘leading’ pediatric assocuation.

    • stuckinthewoods

      You’re also an old timer here. Weren’t you a jewelry maker?

      • Bernie Keefe

        Aw, you remember! Still making jewelry, and still reading JMG 5X a day!

  • Blake J Butler

    O/T: the congressional caucus is Tearing Trumps ass to shreds!!!!!

    I love a good ass shredding on a Friday afternoon.

    • TampaDink

      A good ass shredding is lovable at any time on any day. ;-p

    • stuckinthewoods

      I seem to remember a religion that celebrated Ass Wednesday.

      • Uncle Mark

        Some beautiful ass on your face can be a religious experience.

        • David Walker

          “What is ‘Ass Master’?”

    • StraightGrandmother

      I listened to it, it was EPIC!
      Small correction I believe that was the Congressional Black Caucus if I am not mistaken.

      • Blake J Butler

        Sorry typo. Forced to comment on phone now because laptop is haywire and needs attention to.

        • JCF

          Ooh, I can relate…

    • John30013

      Unfortunately, I see this as just more free exposure for Trump. He got exactly what he wanted out of his “major announcement”, and anyone who didn’t see it coming has simply not been paying attention.

      I mean, seriously, what could possibly be “major” about any announcement by Trump on the “birther” issue. The entire concept/conspiracy is ludicrous on its face, peddled by right-wing hacks, and jumped on by Trump back in 2008 as a way to raise his profile (and stroke his ego) among right wing nutjobs. Since the issue wasn’t legitimate in the first place, any “announcement” about it couldn’t be taken seriously either.

      As soon as I saw Joe’s headline I figured it was going to be another ride Trump was taking the media on. And that’s exactly how it turned out. So now the MSM are all butthurt that Trump pulled (another) one over on them. Well DUH! He’s been doing that for the past 12 months, and they’ve fallen for it *every* time. Their corporate masters see only eyeballs and page views, which Trump’s antics apparently deliver. So they willfully jettison even the pretense of basic journalistic responsibility and just keep asking “how high?” whenever Trump says “jump”.

      It’s disgusting, sad, and dangerous to our Democracy.

  • Ernest Endevor

    That’s a very interesting piece. Quite touching, I’d say. I don’t see too much in the way of trolling here. But I applaud Joe for not banning or deleting comments. (Hint: probably I should be the first to go.) Nothing shuts down a site faster than deleting or banning. I see more in the way of trolling at Slowly Boiled Frog but that’s only from a couple of individuals and since Jesus sent down the blocking option for disqus I don’t have to read them. David Hart also doesn’t believe in banning, reckoning that’s best left to breitbart.

    • StraightGrandmother

      I always read Joe, for sure, but I’m glad you mentioned David Cary Hart at the Slowly Boiled Frog. He does a different type of blogging than Joe and I really like him. I would encourage everyone to go visit, he’s got a good article today on the US Commission on Civil Rights reort that has the Fundies all up in arms.
      http://www.slowlyboiledfrog.com/

      • (((GC)))

        The Fundies can’t stand that the USCCR called out attempts to have religious privilege trump civil rights for what they are.

      • Yes. JMG is always my first port of call in the morning, and the Frog the second.

      • Schlukitz

        I’ve read the SBF column from time to time. I like it.

  • Lumpy Gaga

    I continue to be grateful that the vast majority here treat each other with kindness and respect.

    I appreciate our talent for making it LOOK that way.

    • PickyPecker
    • ByronK

      Offline I’m a nasty, raging bitch. πŸ˜‰

      • edrex

        I’m not. I’m a sweet, sincere and adorable person who is loved by all who are willing to hang out with me.

      • Del Sam

        online, offline, out of line, in line… I’m always a nasty, raging bitch. Until I get my coffee.

  • Rex

    I love coming to this virtual gay bar, HEY, I love this song – someone dance with me!

    • HZ81

      Let me get a drink first!

      (I really just wants a chance to show off his coin slot leaning over the bar, but you knew that already judging by that eye-roll) πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

      • Rex

        Commando I see, nice.

        • HZ81

          I’m classy like that. πŸ™‚

    • Uncle Mark

      I’d be happy to dance with you, except I dance like Elaine Benes. You would likely end up terribly embarrassed and/or maimed.

  • Celloman G

    The smarts, the wit, the side-splitting humor…as I would say to my late husband almost daily, “I love my people!”

    • Gigi

      I’m so sorry for you loss.

      • Celloman G

        Thank you. It was stage 4 colon cancer, but we weren’t expecting the run to end so quickly. Four months. It was sudden, unexpected, and I’m in tatters, but have some truly awesome friends helping every day.

        • djcoastermark

          Sad for your loss. Cancer is awful.

        • coram nobis

          That is sad, and I’m sorry to hear that. My condolences.

        • CanuckDon

          Very saddened to hear of your great loss.

        • The Milkman

          I’m so sorry. Sending a hug your way.

        • David Milley

          My condolences, too.

        • Ernest Endevor

          So sorry to learn this.

        • MaryOGrady

          Please accept a virtual hug from me.

        • MB

          May all of your wonderful memories of life shared together sustain you. Be well, Celloman.

        • Also more hugs coming your way.

        • SoCalGal20

          My condolences to you. And you can’t have too msny virtual hugs. *hugs*

        • Gigi

          I’m thankful for that. I’m glad that you’re not alone. And don’t forget, you have your JMG family as well.

        • StraightGrandmother

          Awe, I’m sorry Celloman. So sorry for you.

        • Chuck in NYC

          A few years ago a much-liked employee come back to work following a trip to his doctor and said he had pancreatic cancer and the prognosis was not good. He worked just another few weeks and was gone in six months. It was a huge shock to everyone who knew him, but of course especially his family. Hang in there, and keep active here.

        • Beagle

          All condolences, Celloman.

        • Salton

          I join the others to tell you how sorry I am for yor loss and wish you a lot of courage.

        • David Walker

          I lost my love two months ago…no warning, no reason to think he’d die. And this weekend would have been our 38th anniversary. You will find comfort here, though. What surprised me most from JMG was how the ((((hugs)))) actually helped. Celloman G, please know that I know a bit of what you’re going through. ((((HUGS))))

          • Cackalaquiano

            Strength and peace to you David. I mean that.

          • David Walker

            I know you mean it, Cackalaquiano. Thank you. I’m getting there.

          • Salton

            So sorry to hear this. Courage, my friend, Hugs

            .

          • David Walker

            Thank you, Salton. Greatly appreciated.

          • Salton

            I lost my partner of 36 years ten years ago. The pain is gone, but his memory is with me all the time. I no longer cry, but smile instead when I look at his picture.

          • I met my first partner at an AIDS conference–he was one of the first HIV “professionals” to be public about his AIDS diagnosis (Center for AIDS Prevention Studies at UCSF–his dissertation was one of the first research projects to actually interview gay men about their sexual practices at that time, because at that point, no one really knew what men were doing with each other. I later spent two years with him interviewing men in gay bars in four states about their sexual behavior in the past 30 days). We helped developed the American Psychological Association’s HIV Training Curriculum. We held a weekend retreat for gay men who had either lost a partner to AIDS, or were providers who had in many cases, lost hundreds of patients to AIDS. We used the research to present at an APA Convention, and then conducted dozens or grief and loss workshops regarding HIV across the United States and other countries.

            After I lost him–one of the questions I was often asked when I’d do grief workshops–“Since you do this so much–is dealing with grief easier for you?”

            And the answer is – “No. The pain is always the same. I’m more efficient in using the tools I have available. But the pain is the same.”

            It’s now been 25 years since I lost him. I think what struck me most in the process–As much as I loved him, he was often a difficult man to be with. At one point he spent two weeks by himself in a cabin and returned and said, “I’m not someone I would want to be alone with.” But as time passed–the bitter and painful times are overshadowed by the love and the intimacy. When I think about the hardest times, they bring a smile at the drama queen aspects, rather than the heartbreak in the process.

            You know, (he had dementia towards the end) we were at a plant nursery and he drew down a branch of a white flowering plant towards him and remarked at how wonderful the fragrance was. As he walked away, I smelled the same flowers–and they had no scent.

            Sometime we best remember the “whole” rather than the moment by moment.

          • Anastasia Beaverhousen

            My virtual hugs to you.

          • David Walker

            Thank you, love.

          • Please accept my condolences, David.

          • David Walker

            Thank you, Roger.

          • FAEN

            *HUGS*

            I’m so sorry for your loss.

          • David Walker

            Thank you, FAEN.

          • Jenni

            Sending you both- David and Celloman- much love.

          • David Walker

            Thank you, Jenni.

          • Schlukitz

            Tearing up reading your post.

            So sorry to hear of your loss.

          • David Walker

            Thank you, Schlukitz, and your presence makes me happy. Have you been ill or away or uninspired? More likely, you’ve been here and I haven’t…I’m not spending as much time here (or anywhere) as I did. But I was getting worried about you…and now here you are! Good to see you again.

          • Schlukitz

            Thank you for your kind words. Your presence makes me happy as well.

            Like you, I have been away and uninspired with all the Drumpf stuff that has taken over most of the media and to an extent, JMG well.

            I am, however, missing the many regulars, yourself included, that I have come to care about and enjoy interacting with. The news of your loss came as a big shock to me. 38 years is a very long time, a lifetime in fact, to share with another person. My heart is heavy for you.

            Thank you for the warm welcome back. It means a lot to me. Good to see you again as well.

        • Roger

          Really sorry for you Celloman, big hugs and at least I fell a little better knowing that you have good friends around. Stay well.

        • Smokey

          Sorry for your loss. It is a shattering experience.

        • Anastasia Beaverhousen

          We shall raise a glass to his memory, or a bottle. My thoughts are with you. Missing hubby and been apart only five days, can’t imagine your loss.

        • FAEN

          Celloman-Please accept my deepest condolences.

        • fuzzybits

          ❀❀❀

    • Mark

      Sending big hugs cello — lost mine 19 years ago…..

      • TampaDink

        That isn’t so long ago that you, too, shouldn’t receive some virtual hugging. May you & Celloman both feel the love that is sent your way.

    • Furface

  • Lumpy Gaga

    Oh, hey!!

    For the record, I was NOT the guy demanding a good review of Lady Gaga’s new single.

    Just so’s y’all know.

    • Acronym Jim

      I was wondering for a second if Joe was talking about one of your demented fans.

      • Lumpy Gaga

        I am the Florence Foster Jenkins of my generation.

  • Gigi

    We rock!

    • StraightGrandmother

      Well, ummm, is that pic 30 years old? Cuz I doubt most of the commentors look like that today. Just a hunch.

      • Gustav2

        Of course we do!

      • David Walker

        And just whatever are you implyin’, missy?

        • StraightGrandmother

          Who me? :-

  • coram nobis

    The comments section is a haven, really, and even the O/T stuff — the classic-music clips, for instance — can be entertaining. Just for the record, though, I should say that JMG is a go-to place for political and LGBT-interest stories. He’s usually very quick to pick up on developments and patrols a lot of sites that we wouldn’t frequent. It may mean we get freak-show exhibits like Tony Perkins or Pat Robertson but it’s all part of the show.

    Col. Flagg: There’s only one flaw with that theory.
    Hawkeye: Only one?
    Col. Flagg: They don’t do three shows Saturday night at the Sands.
    Hawkeye: How do you know?
    Col. Flagg: I was a showgirl for six weeks.
    BJ: No, really?
    Hawkeye: Didn’t you recognize him on stage? He was the one with the machine gun. (sings) A pret-ty girl … a-a-a-a-a-a-a! … is like a me-lo-dy … a-a-a-a-a-a-a!
    — “M*A*S*H”

  • Elsewhere1010

    That bit in the article about having a diverse, knowledgeable, and experienced set of commenters — of a certain age — who can write something that everyone may not immediately get, but that others will appreciate?

    Like when we drop some pins while trying to decide between the circus cover and the Easter cover?

    Or (and this is really very possible) am I obscure to the point of cultural obsolescence?

  • Herald

    Joe thank you so much for all your work. As for this community, it is wonderful and the superlatives all fall short. love y’all

  • delk

    Nothing to say that hasn’t been said, so how about a pic of Gav being a bad dog. He is not allowed on the couch, and he pulled that blanket off of the bed and dragged it all the way from the bedroom.

    • BobSF_94117

      He’s not on the couch. He’s on the blanket.

      Nothing more dangerous than a dog who understands technicalities.

      • thatotherjean

        Clever fellow, Gav.

      • ColdCountry

        Unless it’s a cat who understands technicalities.

        • Reality.Bites

          I’m more worried about cats who understand the launch codes.

    • He was serious about getting comfortable! Bravo Gav!!

    • StraightGrandmother

      Smart dog

    • Lumpy Gaga

      And, indeed, what ARE you gonna do about it?

      • Cackalaquiano

        Nothing, and Gav knows it!

    • Reality.Bites

      Clearly the blanket was so he wouldn’t touch your precious sofa and how is he rewarded? With public shaming on the internet.

      Well shame on you, sir. Shame on you. πŸ˜‰

    • JCF

      Aw!!! <3

    • JCF

      But is he allowed to play the guitars? πŸ˜‰

    • FAEN

      Big hugs and pats to Gav. He looks like a sweet fellow.

      I miss my pup πŸ™

  • coram nobis

    Right this way, your table’s waiting.

    • Rex

      Oh, just give me a second to put down my knitting, my book and my broom.

    • Igby

      Hubby and I just saw that play last night at the ASU Gammage. It starred Randy Harrison as the Emcee and I must say that he gave a wonderful performance. He has certainly matured his acting talents (and singing talents) since his “Queer As Folk” days.

      • coram nobis

        I’ve always liked the stage version — even saw it in a dinner-theater staging, which was even more effective. The songs left out of the movie — “Who Cares,” “Married,” and “What Would You Do?” in particular, the ones written for Lotte Lenya — are poignant, and there’s plenty of ways a good actor can re-imagine the MC.

      • Reality.Bites

        We have tickets for that production when it hits Toronto in February, I think. He was also here for Pride this year, hosting a salute to Babylon at one of the nightclubs they used for it in season one. They used two, one for larger dance scenes. Woody’s, of course was Woody’s. And it was also a set in season 2 (possibly even season 1).

        The show, IMO, never should have been set in Pittsburgh, which didn’t have anything like a gaybourhood at the time (I don’t know if it does now). The original was set in Manchester, the second largest city in England and one with a huge LGBT community. Chicago would have been a much more logical choice, and is a city Toronto is used to playing (like in the movie, “Chicago.”)

  • Robert Conner

    “Homosexual buccaneer” has a swashbuckling ring to it. “Hey, sailor, that’s one Jolly Roger you’ve got there! Mind if we hoist it together?”

    The JMG comments section is a much needed 24/7/365 roast of the pompous, the hypocritical, the irrational, the stupid, the gibbering fascists of the Far Right, and the opportunistic grifters of televangelism. It is also a venue in which to share information, correct misinformation, and chastise the occasional troll who has the misfortune to sail into this particular port. Here’s to homosexual buccaneers!!

    • Corsair Tact

      Hey! I resemble that remark!!

      • PickyPecker

        Shiver me timbers!!

        • TampaDink

          Mine too! πŸ˜‰

    • ByronK

      Arrrr.

    • coram nobis

      It’s a good persona for Joe.

      For I am a Pirate King!
      And it is, it is a glorious thing
      To be a Pirate King!
      For I am a Pirate King!
      COMMENTERS: You are!
      Hurrah for our Pirate King!
      And it is, it is a glorious thing
      To be a Pirate King.
      It is!
      Hurrah for our Pirate King!
      — “Pirates of Penzance”

    • Jerry

      We’ve seen the youtube short…now waiting on the full-length movie version:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dysG12QCdTA

    • RoFaWh

      I would be vastly (bigly, yuuuuugely) amused if the artist had somehow worked a bottle of J-lube powder into the picture.

    • KaBoomBOX

      I was thinking more along these lines…

  • Ray W.

    For the past few years JMG has been the first site I go to each day to get my news.

  • K B

    You’re all beautiful!

  • camel54

    A light in the darkness, this website. Thank you all for your wit and wisdom, and particularly to Joe for all these years of information and entertainment. Much love to you all.

  • HZ81

    Joe, thank you for building this lovely space.

  • Do you remember your first time? I do.
    (get yall’s minds out of the gutters!)
    I think it was 2009 or 10 and after googling about Prop8, I found this (freaking wonderful) site.
    Fast forward to today, and here we are.
    Cheers!

    • Megrim Twist

      Same!

      • EweTaw

        I found this “virtual gay bar” by surfing the internet while volunteering behind our Information Desk (such as it is) at the Utah Pride Center :http://utahpridecenter.org/

        It’s one of the bookmarked sites.

    • canoebum

      I came to this site through Pam’s House Blend, the first community-centered blog I ever read. She opened up a whole new world for me on the internet. I miss her work and hope she is well.

      • John Kusters

        She is active on the book of Face, talking about politics and her health. I’ve been following her there for a while.

        • Schlukitz

          Good to hear.

    • Todd Allis

      I followed Prop 8 Trial Tracker, found Good-As-You through them, and G-A-Y shared a few items from JMG…

    • Reality.Bites

      I honestly have no idea how or when I got here. I joined Disqus four years ago, but I’d put my guess at 2008 or 2009, when I briefly blogged.

      There is, I’d humbly suggest, one post worth reading, about my now late dog. So I’ll repost it here. Some obscure Canadian political references that even I don’t get anymore!

      My Dog’s Balls

      My dog’s name is SΓ©bastien. He’s half Border Collie, so of course he’s insane.

      http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Gpc3eu539bg/SP0TWyr6jSI/AAAAAAAAAAM/zEbSnB6zNVM/s1600/SSPX0052.jpg

      His insanity manifests itself artistically. Or at least, so I like to pretend.

      It’s his balls. No, not those balls. He’s like a Disney cartoon. Even lying on his back with his legs spread, nothing shows. Very tasteful.

      No, I’m talking about his other balls. Tennis balls, rubber balls, etc. He finds them and brings them home. And once he does, he does strange things with them.

      He likes to organize things. He used to line them up on the window sill, but now they’re arranged artistically around his dish. Note the Denta-stick propped up.

      http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Gpc3eu539bg/SP0V–K_pyI/AAAAAAAAAAU/KLCKMqBgVi0/s320/SSPX0116.jpg

      If this was the extent of it, that would be ok, but I’m afraid he’s ventured into things (non-Dr.) Charles McVety would never approve of. It’s true, you see. Same-sex marriage leads to inter-species sex. That’s a kitten feeling up a bunny rabbit. And from the arrangement of the tennis balls, it’s clear they’re lesbians and he’s giving a shout out to The L-Word.

      http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Gpc3eu539bg/SP0WyRGtEDI/AAAAAAAAAAc/DH4NpEh-q1c/s320/SSPX0117.jpg

      It gets worse, I’m afraid.

      He’s set his sights on a new career working for that Canadian porn channel based in Ken Epp’s home.

      His plan? Choreographer for orgies.

      http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Gpc3eu539bg/SP0XxZUGnjI/AAAAAAAAAAk/zkOzvRa2nwE/s320/SSPX0131.jpg

      • zhera

        A beautiful dog with a beautiful name!

    • Anastasia Beaverhousen

      I don’t remember when I first came here, but remember the night I became Anastasia Beaverhousen….that little site called Reaganbook. Memories. Good times. Good times.

      • FAEN

        I miss Janet Porter’s(or is it Folger)particular brand of craziness.

        O/T-When I was on Huff Post I loved your comments and was a fan.

    • JCF

      I think I first visited around 2005 or 2006…but I lurked for over a YEAR! [You guys were SO witty, I was intimidated! :-X]

      • Salton

        Just like you, I think I’ve been on JMG for about ten years, many times every day. Just like you I was (and still am) intimidated. Didn’t comment for the longest time.

  • Well, it’s Friday afternoon, so I guess it’s not too early to get all weepy & soppy drunk and bawl, “I luv youse guys!”

    I’ll fire up the blender and start on those top-shelf margaritas.

    • Tor

      I’ll be over in a minute… because it’s still morning here.

      • bambinoitaliano

        Lower the shades, draw the blinds, it’s night time again. See?

        • William

          Amazing!!

    • ByronK

      Let me get my straw….

    • bambinoitaliano

      Just keep passing down the line. For some reason the assembly line just stop in front of me πŸ˜›

    • EweTaw

      I just got back from a quick dip in Tijuana. Found a little bar in Rosarito that makes tamarind margaritas. Tamarind pulp is available in most Mexican and Asian markets. Lasts a long time in the fridge. Add a couple of reconstituted tablespoons of pulp to standard margarita plus a teaspoon of super fine sugar. Of course, always use fresh limes and lemons, good sliver tequila and contreau — no margarita mix crap. The margaritas are are more sublime than strawberry margaritas.

      • AB-so-lutely!

        • EweTaw

          Oh, and they rimmed the glasses with a 50/50 combo of salt and chile powder. Velly good!

    • Adam King

      But I luv youse guys! Really!

    • ColdCountry

      I picked a bunch of basil today and am getting ready to simmer it up and make basil lime daiquiris. Never made them, but had one in Greece and, oh MY.

      • David Walker

        Sounds different. I’ve had lime daiquiris, but the addition of basil would certainly make it an interesting combination I think it was Macbeth who once declared, “Drink on, Macduff,/And damn’d be him that first cries, ‘Whoa! Enough!’

      • Schlukitz

        Should do wonders for your basil metabolism.

        • ColdCountry

          Ok, I have to upvote that, even though I don’t want to. πŸ˜‰

          • Schlukitz

            Hee hee.

            Happy Saturday. πŸ™‚

          • ColdCountry

            I believe my neighbor (who grew the basil) and I will be trying the drinks out tonight. I hope they are as good as the one I had in Greece!

          • Schlukitz

            Cheers.

      • JCF

        I’ve heard you can make a very nice basil mojito. I haven’t tried one yet (w/ basil from my garden), but I’ve been meaning to…

    • Anastasia Beaverhousen

      Too early honey, you should have started on Tuesday. What time should I have the ice truck stop by?

  • Phil

    A very nice, on target article. JMG is the virtual version of Cheers for queers!

  • RobynWatts

    Much love in reporting what’s going on. Thank you and keep up the great work.

  • RainbowPhoenix

    You also get the occasional young’un who for whatever reason feels more comfortable with the older crowd that’s already been there and done that.

  • MB

    So when are we gonna’ get JMG hats Joe, hmmm ?????

    * Just the simple J or JMG logo…we’ll all know one another, sure ‘ nough.

    • Skokieguy [Larry]

      Who else would like to see a ‘donate’ button on the site? I’m not really a t-shirt guy (long geeky neck), but I’d be happy to make a donation now and then as a thank you for all the hard work Mr. Jervis puts into keep this site what it is.

      • PickyPecker
      • Yes, please.

      • StraightGrandmother

        I think it would be fun to have a $5 Donation button. Like when he runs a really good article, we could hit the $5 Donation Button. Or thinking outside the box, if anyone here gets out of hand we can all say, “Now you done it, U need to go make a $5 donation”

        • Skokieguy [Larry]

          I agree. And YOU darlin’, are one of my (and no doubt many) heroes on this site. Intelligent, gutsy, kind and ready to kick ass when needed. I’m always honored when you reply to a comment I’ve made.

        • Schlukitz

          Hee hee

      • Cackalaquiano

        “long geeky neck”
        Dude, I fucking look like ET. I’d love some sort of store though!

        • Skokieguy [Larry]

          I’m in no way judging others, hope it didn’t sound that way. I just know a t-shirt doesn’t look good on me. P.S. Check at the top of any page there is already a store, and shirts coming soon, maybe other things? Time will tell!

          • Cackalaquiano

            I knew you weren’t judging. I was commiserating. And how’d I miss the store?

        • zhera

          Coffe cups: “JMG is MY cuppa Joe!”

  • The thing about sites like 4chan where they have unmoderated “free speak” is that in reality the vicious mentality of the trolls end up silencing other people who feel that they will be threaten if the speak up. I like the commenting here, there’s accountability if someone says something stupid but there is also a degree of freedom (you know where my comment won’t end up lost because I used to word fuck.) Now here’s an actual seductive gif. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a96bc0bc12639c23bfbd5144c4e0004b6f17509641de5099be28c1966c91eb5f.gif

  • HZ81

    Side note: The Congressional Black Caucus just lit into Donald. It was lovely. Hope you caught it or catch it later.

    • Brian Burleson

      It was a pleasure.

  • Mister Don

    Come for Joe, stay for Trae πŸ™‚

  • Ish

    Your mileage may vary. The only place I have been repeatedly and consistently attacked for my body size since grade school is this blog. The comment sections can be a snake pit of bullying for people who disagree with majority opinion.

    • EweTaw

      But that’s whats so fun about this place.

    • RoFaWh

      If your opinion is at odds with the majority here, have you ever considered that you may be wrong?

      • Ish

        No. What an absolutely peculiar and monstrous way to form an opinion.

        • Porkie

          ???!!
          I live in the certain knowledge that I am wrong about a number of things and I TRY to always allow the opinions of others to inform me,( and yes I even read your posts), ……Your loss I fear.

    • Schlukitz

      Ad hominem attacks, no matter what the reason, are uncalled for and do not, in any way, elucidate the issues.

      Majority opinion, however, as you well know, has not always been historically correct or even humane, for that matter. And when that majority opinion hurts members of our community, they must expect push-back.

      Think marriage equality, just for starters.

    • Fuck You Ian!

      The bully Ian Scott Horst upset because some one bullies back.

      You’re dismissed. Now go play on a freeway.

  • Acronym Jim

    Okay, Lumpy Gaga comes up with some hilariously off-the-wall remarks, but that’s not necessarily cause to blame her for demented fans emailing you, Joe.

    Oh! You were talking about Lady Gaga. Carry on, then.

  • This is my primary news site, because there is very little posted that I don’t care about, and it’s nice to see how the QUILTBAG community is getting in the media.
    Now if we could just get a little more non-medical science news in here, I’d tell a couple of science-oriented sites to take off…

  • bkmn

    And here I thought we were all here for the JMG orgy access.

    • PickyPecker

      wait…..there’s a pay to play subsite to JMG? I miss all the fun. πŸ™

      • Lumpy Gaga

        Your Trump Gold Card, please….

  • Pat

    The comment section is like Cheers, but with more wit, snark and sparkle! Thank you, Joe, for a truly great neighborhood spot.

  • MB

    We could sponsor a homosexual-buccaneer themed balloon or a simple JMG hot-air balloon for the ABQ International Balloon Fiesta the first week in October (every year.)

    Y’all should come to Albuquerque and visit, spend one of two weekends (or all ten days) enjoying the Fiesta, mass ascensions, balloon glows, Special Shapes rodeos/glowdeos, etc. at least once in your lifetime, and the NM Hatch green-chile is outrageously delicious, too. Santa Fe is just a convenient Railrunner train ride away or an hours drive north.

    http://iamnm.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/2001-Albuquerque-International-Balloon-Fiesta-02.jpg

    http://www.gunaxin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Balloon-Fiesta-Albuquerque-02.jpg

    • BearEyes

      I went to Special Shapes day years ago – what a sight. Loved it!

      • MB

        Balloons have been flying around the NW part of the city early mornings now that the fall chill is in the early morning air. I get to see about a half-dozen outside my third-floor patio nearly every morning, now.

        • EweTaw

          NM has a long tradition of strange stuff sighted in its skies.

        • BearEyes

          How wonderful! A treat for the eyes,

        • I’m on the wrong side of the Sandias to see the balloons, sad to say. And not being a morning person… πŸ˜‰

          • MB

            I get to enjoy the morning balloons and the gorgeous western sunsets and lightning displays; last night’s array of lightning bolts was pretty wild.

        • ColdCountry

          I worked one winter in Tucson in a store the front of which was all tall windows. It faced the Santa Catalinas, and at dawn there was almost always a balloon or four drifting across the view. Made the night shift worthwhile.

    • SoCalGal20

      I’ve been wanting to go, and also just go back to NM to see more. I spent a couple of days in Albuquerque when I drove back to CA after I moved back from Boston a few years ago.

    • Oikos

      We have one here every year as well.

      http://www.adirondackballoonfest.org/#home-1

    • StraightGrandmother

      Very colorful

    • ColdCountry

      I saw the mass ascension back in… 81? Amazing, but the thing I remember most was the police horse standing in the middle of all those undulating, filling balloons and roaring burners and not batting an eye.

    • Reality.Bites

      Sort of like my avatar, which when seen large shows that it’s a display in a Vietnamese shop.

      It has no personal meaning to me, but I liked the colours – which the photos don’t do justice to.

      • Are they Wesak lanterns?

        • Oh’behr

          Hmm, for some reason, I’m finding the spelling as Vesak Lamps, in the USA. Must be another translation.

          • A different transliteration from the Sanskrit vaiśākha, the spelling and exact pronunciation varying according to which Oriental language one speaks.

            Wesak is, as you no doubt know, the Buddha’s birthday and is celebrated at the time of the full moon of the fifth lunar month, usually in May by the Western calendar. Part of the celebration is illuminating the temples — and indeed the village and city streets — with special lanterns, traditionally made of coloured tissue paper on split bamboo frames and lit up with a candle inside. When I was a child in Thailand and Ceylon, these were usually home-made, and people would vie in creating the most beautiful and original designs; I vividly remember ships, aeroplanes, animals, and flowers, as well as simpler globe and teardrop shapes, and how wonderful the villages looked all lit up with them.

            But no doubt doubt they are more often commercially made and lit by electricity now.

      • Schlukitz

        How lovely. Thank you for sharing that with us RB.

  • Capritaur

    Didn’t know Joe gets so much hate behind the scenes and endures it alone. Thank you Joe!

    • Gustav2

      Shelly comforts him.

  • Quagmired

    I’m either too old care or on the autism spectrum or both because I get attacked constantly and it never really bothers me. Being oblivious is a gift in our age. Keep up the good work.

  • On the whole, Joe does a decent job of blocking and/or banning the trolls. Obviously those of us posting are NOT considered Trolls, at least by Joe.

  • TK

    Thank you Joe for providing such a well informed and important web site. And to the many regular commenters – you are some of the funniest, cleverest and smartest commenters I’ve ever had the pleasure to read! And such poignant, wonderfully snarky sarcasm and critiques of all the haters and idiots that Joe puts in their place! Great work, everyone!

    • TK

      Not to mention the awesome graphics! True talent lives here!

  • SoCalGal20

    Joe, thank you for creating this here thingy and allowing us to gather and comment and make friends and socialize here. It’s a special place. And lots of fun! πŸ™‚

  • Grafxbear

    Love my Joe.

  • StraightGrandmother

    Hey, Hey, Hey, Good for Joe!
    One of my fav activities on JMG is when Joe tells us to Freep a poll and the flying monkeys take off. I just love to watch the poll change once the monkeys start flying.

    Another thing I like is that you (the royal you) read something and don’t just comment and move on, no, many many of you do something about what you read. You tweeet, you make a phone call, send an e-mail, you dig in and find out relevant facts and share.

    Finally what I really enjoy is what a great memory Joe has, and you collectively y’all have great memories and can recall tons of pertinent facts. I have learned so much from Joe and all of you. It is a fun place to hang out.

    • Bj Lincoln

      I too have learned a lot. I like the links to related info that often get posted as well as the cartoons.

    • MB

      Yep SG, we haven’t freeped in quite awhile. My freeper is getting rusty.
      πŸ˜‰

    • Cackalaquiano

      The mobilization is so important and cool to watch. It matters!

    • Schlukitz

      Right back at you, SGM.

      You always give so much to this site and your ongoing involvement with the LGBT community helps make this the wonderful site that it is.

      We love ya.

    • pepΓ³n

      I have created quite a few articles in the Wikipedia after reading Joe’s news or some comments here. The Wiki then works as multiplicator, and the information just spreads.

      • StraightGrandmother

        OMG, YOU do that tedious, thankless job? Wow are you a nice guy, nobody ever goes and looks to see who did that work. I’m really impressed. Thank you.

  • Canadian Observer

    Forget the Tshirts, I think the real gold mine would be in old-style paper and ink publishing. Just imagine “Best of JMG Comments” suitable for the coffee table or the magazine rack in the toilets.

    • Cackalaquiano

      I love this idea! Fundraiser for Ali Forney?

  • Hank

    To Joe….

    We ARE Family!!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMVe_HcyP9Y

    • StraightGrandmother

      We are and I enjoyed the song you posted, I listened to all of it and did enjoy it.

      • Hank

        I have been on JMG for about 1 1/2 years. Having gotten to read the frequent Commentarians: Yourself, Oikos, BillBear, PickeyPecker, Gustav, Becca M, SkokieGuy, Steve, and many more.

        • Reality.Bites

          All of a sudden I feel like the Professor and Mary Ann. πŸ˜‰

          • Hank

            Well, FYI, I always had the HOTS for the Professor!!!

          • Reality.Bites

            Yeah Russell Johnson was fine and all, but let’s face it, on that island if he wasn’t around most gay men would opt for Mary Ann or Ginger.

          • David Walker

            Or at least their sleek, form-fitting ensembles.

          • Reality.Bites

            I don’t know about you, but my form is somewhere between the Professor’s and the Skipper’s. None of the girls’s things would fit me.

            I looked up Alan Hale to make sure I wasn’t overselling myself as being between them, and I found this of all things!

            http://stuffnobodycaresabout.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/album-cover-Alan-Hales-Roman-Orgy.jpg

          • Acronym Jim

            And I feel like “all the rest.”

        • Oh’behr

          I still miss Bebblemeyer (though I have forgotten how to spell his handle). Of Tucson and later Little Rock. R.I.P.

          Miss you Buddy.

          • Schlukitz

            His passing was a tragic loss to so many of us here. I am still moved to tears when I think about that dear man.

            A more gentle soul never walked the earth. A warm, kind, caring and considerate human being who left us all too soon.

            I recall how concerned he would get when ever a couple of commenters would tangle and Beebs would be moved to tears and beg them not to fight and love each other instead.

            I have a lovely album on my computer, created from all of the lovely pics he would send from time to of the beautiful cacti collection that he had. He had such an appreciation for life and the beauty of nature.

            We all miss terribly. Those of us who knew him well, will never forget him.

          • Salton

            Since the first time I came to JMG, about ten years ago, there are so many people who were regulars commenters but have completely vanished, I hope for other reasons than their demise. There was one very sick man who lived in Desert Hot Springs (DHS) in southern California who probably passed away. Can’t remember his handle. RIP

    • Bj Lincoln

      That was the song played at my very first Pride Parade. It was in Phoenix, AZ 1982. Thanks for the memories.

      • Friday

        Hee, I think it was at my first, that’d be in Northampton, maybe 89 or 90. πŸ™‚ Maybe it’s at all of them. πŸ™‚

      • BudClark

        That was invariably the processional played / sung at the entrance of Empress Nicole at Imperial Court de San Diego functions.

        I used to think the Imperial Court system was silly … then I watched The Widow Norton’s funeral from Grace Cathedral in San Francisco … kinda like Nicole picketing the San Diego jail in high drag and heels, while the rest of the gay community was still hiding under their beds.

        We must NEVER forget that they were putting all on the line that hot June night in 1969 in Greenwich Village.

        Thank you, brave sisters and brothers!

        • Schlukitz

          How are ya doing’, Bud?

          • BudClark

            I’m approaching getting back to my baseline. The docs have told me I’ll never be WELL again, and I’m reconciled to THAT. CHF and COPD are both chronic and progressive. There’s no way to STOP them … just slow them down.

            I keep busy harassing conservative politicians .

            Thanks for asking!

            Cheers,

            Bud

          • Schlukitz

            Good to see you here, Bud.

            I am so sorry to hear that you’ve not been feeling well. I’ve been away from JMG for awhile and obviously have some catching up to do. I’ve missed all the old, familiar faces such as yours.

            I also suffer from COPD so I can relate to an extent. Fortunately, I do not have any heart problems to deal with…a blessing as I approach the big 80 this month.

            It’s good to keep busy. Takes one’s mind off one’s problems. Hang in there, friend.

            Cheers to you as well.

            Chuck

          • jsmukg

            Hi Chuck. Bud is one of my favorites as well.
            Would like to talk some time if you’re amenable? Have enjoyed your posts so much.

          • Schlukitz

            Hey there, jsmukj. Nice to hear from you.

            Thank you for the kind words. I always enjoy chatting with folks, so bring it on by all means. πŸ™‚

          • jsmukg

            Would it be agreeable to trade emails?

          • Schlukitz

            NP That would be nice.

            [email protected]

          • jsmukg

            Will email you now.

          • Schlukitz

            Kool

    • Schlukitz

      Indeed, we are.

  • Spongebob CrankyPants

    So how does one define trolling? I’ve been accused of trolling simply because I have an opinion that runs counter to another posters opinion.

    • Adam King

      Don’t worry about it. More than one person will kindly point it out if you’re really doing anything wrong.

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        That’s true Adam. We are givers, because we care.

    • Carl

      I’m not singling you out because I don’t know your circumstances, but I tend to include “people who sell horseshit and conspiracy theories well past their sell by date” as trolls, regardless off how sincerely they may believe in said horseshit.

      • Spongebob CrankyPants

        I certainly agree about people who toss out conspiracy theories but at the end of the day one person’s honest opinion is another person’s trolling. Like so many other things in life, trolling is highly subjective.

        • Reality.Bites

          I know some – not all – of your posts sometimes make me scratch my head, but by no means all of them. But having a different opinion to mine doesn’t make you a troll.

          To me trolling is defined by such things as:

          (I’m gonna use the word “you” a lot, but I’m not referring to you. It’s just awkward to use “one” here.)

          1. Having an interest in one narrow subject only. No one’s interested in everything, but if you’re only interested in posting pro-Jill Stein propaganda, I’m not interested in you.

          2. Hit and run posting without replying to the responses you caused.

          3. Clearly having NO interest in LGBTQ issues of any kind, only pushing a partisan, non Democratic Party agenda.

          4. Being opposed to LGBTQ rights – especially trans rights, which are now the focus of trolls.

          5. Having a roommate who just bought a McLaren.

          • Spongebob CrankyPants

            “But having a different opinion to mine doesn’t make you a troll.” Yeah, I get that. But that’s not how other people see it. Items 1 to 5 is YOUR view of what a troll is. That view may not be shared by others. Again, trolling is subjective.

          • Reality.Bites

            Well of course it is my view. If I was here to post anything else I’d be a troll. πŸ˜‰

            You couldn’t get 100% consensus on the definition of ANYTHING. Not even “water” or “sky.” But you could probably get something hammered out that most of the people reading JMG would agree on if we had to choose a definition of water. Same with trolls. πŸ˜‰

          • (((GC)))

            You are so behind the times! The roommate is buying Range Rovers now. /s

            Seriously, I’ve suggested to Disqus that they add more tools that site moderators can use to “auto-moderate” comments — such as requiring that someone’s postings be approved if they have a dramatically low number of upvotes compared to their posts. That would seriously cramp the chameleon spammer’s MO.

          • Reality.Bites

            All I know is that *I’D* buy a new place all on my own, OR at least find a roommate who doesn’t blab my personal finances all over the internet!

            I’m just glad the roommate doesn’t have a gross medical condition the way that one overshares!

    • ColdCountry

      Same here. It happens, but it’s the regulars you need to pay attention to. They will let you know if you get out of line. The others? Pffffft!

  • Tim Easton

    True that uninspiring trolls have destroyed much of the world wide web.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Yes he is….

    • Salton

      Love that picture of Joe! Oui, j’adore!

  • edrex

    I weirdly think about the commenters and personalities reflected here even in my off line time, and often spend a moment wishing someone or another well in my head. I should add that this happens even if I’m not having a cocktail.

    • PickyPecker

      …and missing them when they are gone for periods of time.

      • edrex

        Yes. It is noticed, isn’t it?

        • Reality.Bites

          We should have a vacation/illness/busy thread pinned at the top that we could update as necessary.

          • PickyPecker

            a good suggestion. You should send that to Joe as he is considering retooling the site in the coming months.

          • Schlukitz

            I totes agree. πŸ™‚

          • Schlukitz

            That’s a wonderful idea. It would be so nice to be able to “look-in” on someone who has not posted in awhile and see if everything is ok.

      • Yeah….I miss Jalapeno Business and Ale Alejandro. What ever happened to Alejandro? He was so sweet.

        • Schlukitz

          Indeed, Ale was sweet. And he is missed.

        • hudson11

          And Madd Dog Ltd. Loved that guy’s photoshopping talents

      • ColdCountry

        I still get sad when I think of Gandolf the Gay as I know his health wasn’t good. Whatever happened to him? Even his blog is gone now.

        • Schlukitz

          Another name that comes to mind whom we have not heard much from as of late…our dear, sweet and beloved Ms. Kitty. I hope that she is doing well.

          • John30013

            I saw a comment from Ms. Kitty a few days (perhaps a week?) ago. But nothing since.

          • Schlukitz

            Thanks for letting me know that, John30013. Glad to hear that she is still coming to JMG.

          • ColdCountry

            I know! I always fret when I don’t see her for a while.

      • Schlukitz

        Yep yep. Many of the folks that come here are regarded as family. And when a couple of them passed away, it was like losing a family member.

  • Mark

    It sarted out as a cup of Joe. Then breakfast. Then lunch. And now, sometimes dinner. I am sooooo into JMG that some days I just can’t get away….nor do I want to.

  • Johnny Wyeknot

    The bottom line: this keeps me sane and either puts a smile on face or a tear in my eye. Sometimes both.

  • Lawerence Collins

    What’s conservative trolling? I’m a very liberal, progressive gay man. One who used to think that the majority here would be as well.

    • stevenj

      They are. But most of us are just not as naive as you.

      • Lawerence Collins

        Hardly! I can tell you totally missed the tenor of my post. It was what meant as a question for this sites moderator.
        And most of the comments here are far from progressive. This country needs the kind of activism that Act Up brought in the agonizing early days of AIDS!
        Are you aware that Obama and Clinton are for the TPP? Clinton only pretends to be against it. Wake up!

  • Internet success used to be measured by how many “hits” your web site got. Now you can tell how much of an impact you’re making by the number of death threats you receive. Of course they only count if they’re full of typos or typed in all caps.

    • Gigi

      By this measure Breitbart is an overwhelming success.

      • Reality.Bites

        An exceptionally overwhelming success considering Obama killed him with his secret death ray.

        Oops, of course I meant to say Hillary did it.

    • Johnny Wyeknot

      WAHT?

  • j.martindale
  • Just as long as say you love Hillary and she’s the best choice and you won’t be berated by your “wonderful” readers Joe.

    • Carl

      You don’t have to love anybody. But if you insist on berating people for not pissing their vote away on a lost cause, you’re going to get lumped in with the trolls. Also, no one singled you out. You’re an adult. Accept that this forum doesn’t owe you an echo chamber.

      • Reality.Bites

        Blocked the asshole the first day Disqus block function was introduced. There’s no point in talking to this obsessed, Democrat-hating asshole. May as well try and convince Tony Perkins to vote for her – he’s more open and much less of a sexist, homophobic jerk.

        • grada3784

          I applied the block to it after I gave it the opportunity to say something positive about its candidate and all I got back from it was Hillary bashing.

          • Reality.Bites

            That’s the thing. He, and other supposed Bernie supporters who showed up out of the blue never had anything to say about Bernie. And stupidly, they tried to convince people who LIKED Clinton to vote for him, not by showing how he was better, but just by tearing down her. Doomed to failure, which is why of course they didn’t follow Bernie to supporting Clinton. It was never about him, for them.

            I’ll also add there were legitimate JMG contributors who supported Bernie Sanders too. They were here before the campaign, they’re still here, and they’ll still be here after November. I don’t want this (willfully?) misinterpreted as me saying Sanders supporters are trolls. No. Trolls are trolls, and none of the ones I’ve called out in the past followed Bernie over to Clinton.

      • This forum is an echo chamber. Except if you disagree then you are a troll automatically. It’s a clique and if you don’t go along with the group mentality then you’re a troll, although ironically you get trolled.

    • StraightGrandmother

      you don’t have to Love Hillary, just vote for her.

      • moebym

        But, but, but…Hillary has to make me love her. /s

      • Schlukitz

        Hear. Hear.

        Vote like our lives depend on it.

        Because they DO

      • She has to earn my vote.

    • coram nobis

      It helps if you know all the lyrics to “You Must Love Me.”

  • William

    I want a ‘deviant sodomite’ t-shirt.

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      You are what you wear.

  • Bj Lincoln

    Dear Joe,
    Awesome piece in the Advocate! We like coming here for the reasons you touched on as well as a long list I am seeing below. Thank you for working so hard to create and maintain a safe place for us. We handle Trolls pretty well.

    Next time could you give a shout out to all the women who add to the caring and humor at this here web thingy? /s

    • Reality.Bites

      I’m not sure the Advocate have heard about women yet. πŸ˜‰

  • Larry Larson

    ’nuff said!

  • Adam King

    Many here have had years of experience treading the fine line between catty and bitchy.

    • Reality.Bites

      Change “treading” to “ceaselessly crossing” and you’ve got me!

      • Treant

        I occasionally wave back at catty from well into bitchy myself.

  • EweTaw

    I may have a drinking problem. I spend too much time loitering in this “virtual gay bar.”

    • grada3784

      Only bar I go to nowadays.

  • jerrydoubleu .

    i’ll write in bernie

    • William

      Be original, write in Barry Goldwater.

    • Tigernan Quinn

      Well my vote cancels out yours. Bye, troll.

  • StraightGrandmother

    Hey, we have to remember to use our new phrase I am promoting, “Frog off!”
    We can use that on the trolls should they show up here. It is a riff on the new alt-Twitter site Joe posted yesterday (or maybe it was the day before) the one with the frog logo, Gab I think it is called. Their logo is an obvious riff to Pepe.

    • William

      The only Pepe I know of is Pepe le Pew. A skunk is more fitting for the alt-right, especially if they gave off the same odor.

  • TheManicMechanic

    We est trolls alive. Joe yells is where they live, or if they post from work, he tells the workplace of their employee’s escapades.

    • coram nobis

      est?

      • StraightGrandmother

        obvious typo, the letter A on the keyboard is right next to the letter S

        • coram nobis

          Oh, I thought it was a reference to Erhard Seminars Training (est), and if so, it was a very witty (if somewhat dark) suggestion.

          • Reality.Bites

            Which, bringing this unexpectedly back on topic, The Advocate used to promote a version of as “The Advocate Experience.”

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Advocate#History

          • Schlukitz

            I took EST back in the late seventies.

            One of the more amusing terms that I learned, was “Estholes”. LOL

        • Reality.Bites

          Speaking of letter replacement, a friend was just messaging me about MacBooks and a typo caused him to refer to the Regina display.

      • TheManicMechanic

        Eat. Lots of autocorrect flubs in this one.

    • Schlukitz

      Something that I wish Hemant Mehta would do on his Friendly Atheist site, which is, incidentally very accepting and supportive of LGBT folks.

  • I wouldn’t mind meeting JMG readers in real life. Some of you all have avatars that I wouldn’t mind seeing in real life

    • Schlukitz

      I’ve met a couple JMG readers over the years and they were every bit as polite, kind and considerate as they are on these threads.

    • hudson11

      So, how can we do this? I know there are JMG readers here in Vancouver BC. It would be great if Discus allowed direct email exchanges between members.

      • jsmukg

        Just trade email addresses on here and then delete the post–

        • hudson11

          good to know. thx!

          • jsmukg

            Sure. If you’d like to talk, let me know.

  • coram nobis

    Joe’s story is still prominent on the Advocate main webpage, as are some other features.

    http://www.advocate.com/sites/advocate.com/files/2016/09/15/asians-on-finding-prince-charming-x750_0.jpg

    • David Walker

      *gasp* I think my heart just went all a-flutter.

    • moebym

      Dude looks like one of my cousins (not sure if 2nd or 3rd), only with more hair and slightly less muscle mass.

    • Robert Conner

      Only thing missing is the homosexual buccaneer castaway.

  • moebym

    I visit JMG on a daily basis because of the community of commenters. This is such a welcoming place where people by and large treat each other like long-time friends.

    • Cackalaquiano

      Same. I want a meet up – would be cool to meet the humans behind this great banter.

    • BudClark

      Hear, hear!

  • Treant

    Wait a second, Joe’s gay? As in an inveterate pipe-smoker?

    Well, then, excuse me while I flounce right outta here. Paco, get my wrap!

  • Larry Gist

    Much love to you our darling Joe for this “safe space”

    • Schlukitz

      “Safe space” has become a battle royal over on the Friend Atheist where I also like to spend time on a daily basis.

      In the last few months, the site has become infested with trolls who derail, commandeer the threads and use them as a platform for their own amusement and edification. Many are Christian assholes who come there to proselytize and others are just asshole who take delight in harassing and insulting the regulars who are leaving in alarming numbers.

      Flagging and blocking these trolls is aided and abetted by the Freeze Peach crowd who constantly get on the back of those of us who are sick and tired or being attacked with each comment that we post and hassled daily by these troglodytes. They like all of the mindless arguing that takes place with these idiots that have absolutely nothing of value to add to the discussion.

      It has gotten so bad, that I don’t know which is worse…listening to the trolls…or the Freeze Peach crowd who also derail the threads and take them over for their own agenda. πŸ™

      • That is sad news. I enjoyed going to Friendly Atheist for the conversation. And I am not an atheist.

  • I totally want a shirt that says “deviant sodomite” on it. Not even kidding. I wear a size Large, just FYI.

    • Larry Larson

      I’d like Deviant Sodomite Buccaneer!

  • Todd Allis

    I commented and mentioned “Dance of the Sugarplum Lesbians” and “I Will Hold You Ten Times.” Now I have a few tears to wipe.

  • pj

    i was expecting a couple pics of naked bears worked into the story somehow. you know….joes swingin ny lifestyle or something.

  • Halloween_Jack

    β€œMy [tolerant] readers take care of [the trolls],” he says. β€œSome of them rather enjoy taking care of it.”

    heh heh heh

    • Schlukitz

      Joe give us wide berth in expressing ourselves on JMG…something that is to be appreciated. He is a supporter of responsible freedom of speech and that’s what has kept this site such a wonderful, supportive place to visit daily.

      Also appreciated, is the fact that Joe makes sure that our site remains a safe haven for all of us who come here regularly and is not afraid to lower the boom when a troll crosses the line or posts comments beyond the pale.

  • Grimes

    Wait a second…I’ve been visiting this site multiple times a day for 5+ years, commenting only recently, and am only now just reading that you’re making tshirts?? When did I miss that?!

  • Mike in Texas

    Surely we can come up with something to remedy Joe’s “semi-hardened” issue.

  • anne marie in philly

    I love this space cause (a) I read things here that cannot be found elsewhere and (b) no one cares that I am a str8 girl and (c) the snark level is just fine!

    • Schlukitz

      And we love having straight guys and gals who enjoy sharing with us. πŸ™‚

      • anne marie in philly

        πŸ™‚ smooches!

        • Schlukitz

          {{{hugz}}}

  • This is my favorite website. Love you, Joe!

    • Schlukitz

      Tossing my hat in the ring as well.

      Wish there weren’t so many trolls over on the Friendly Atheist. It’s really becoming a big problem as of late.

      • Just block them. That’s what I did. It removes the temptation to get sucked into their attention-whore vortex.

        • Schlukitz

          Yeah. I’ve blocked a couple.

      • Carl

        Used to love Friendly Atheist but the comment section is a sewer.

  • I think this is the blog where I can leave a comment without trolls harrassing me,I’m glad this site exists <3

  • Larry Not Gray Hon But Blonde

    Shut that door! My ankles are sweaty! My, look at the all the muck trying to make it in here and spoil our FAB!

  • Jay Silversmith

    This place is comedy GOLD.

  • rusty57

    If I am not a founding member of the J.M.G. fan boy club, then I am certainly someone who reported for duty the following week.. In those early days Joe would mostly post personal opinions, music reviews and occasionally his own writings (which I miss dearly by the way) “Dance of the Sugarplum Lesbians” and “I Will Hold You Ten Times” hint at Mr Jervis’s talents.
    Back then there were fewer of us, Big Ass Belle, Father Tony, Larry in P-town, elevan, Ish and a handful of others whose names escape me There was very much a sense of intimate community and I looked forward to the day’s postings and the opinions of the those favored few who knew of Joe.My.God.
    But things change.
    Over time Mr Jervis’s personal writings gave way to more media based postings and the cognoscenti expanded dramatically. All in all I’d have to say this is a good thing. This is, in my humble opinion, the go to place for news and commentary that impacts the LGBTTTIQQSF (sorry if I left anyone out, it wasn’t intentional) community in the United States and indeed, world wide. Some of the most intelligent and insightful (and witty and clever and bitchy and shady and just gloriously, grandly gay) comments I’ve found on the internet have been right here at J.M.G. I have even been known to change my own point of view because someone more knowledgeable than I has pointed out things I hadn’t considered before. Please keep all of it coming ladies and gentlemen.
    Here’s to another 12 years of J.M.G. and I don’t know about anyone else but if a little more Shelly could be worked in I’d be fine with that.
    Regarding trolls, well, I’ve toyed with some of those who slide in on their bellies from the less wholesome and more fetid corners of the internet to call names and shit stir. I’ve found poking them once or twice with a stick then turning your back on them works best. Acknowledge them then deny them the attention they so desperately crave, they hate being ignored more than anything else.

    • Larry Larson

      Ooo! A weekly “Shelly Speaks” column! Great idea! πŸ˜‰

  • Steven B

    This is the only site where I can swear and not get kicked off.

  • FAEN

    Joe is absolutely correct-there is a sense of community. We may not always agree with each other but when push comes to shove we have each other’s backs.

    This site is the first I go to every morning and the last before I fall asleep. Thanks Joe πŸ˜€.

  • ExGayTherapyKills

    Now who would want to troll JMG? Anti-gay Christians, Muslims, terrorist who want to kill LGBT people and psychotherapist who kill LGBT people using Ex Gay Therapy.

  • fuzzybits
  • JCF

    “the growing troll problem that has forced some sites to do away with commenting entirely”

    I’ve noticed. For example, “The New Civil Rights Movement” has recently done away w/ comments.

    So appreciate how you keep this place a comment haven!

    • Schlukitz

      I think that you speak for all of us with respect to your last paragraph.

      It is, indeed, a safe space that Joe has created for us. We are indebted to him.

  • Melissa Rippetoe

    After the Pulse massacre I decided I was going to be more out both being Lesbian and being atheist. This is one of the places I have come to love. My wife died three years ago and during her illness our friends just sort of abandoned us. I feel a real sense of community here. Commenting more often is one of my ways of being out. Thanks Joe for creating this site! And thanks to everyone here who make it such a great place to drop by and stay awile.

    • Schlukitz

      So sorry to hear of your loss.

      It’s very sad that you friends abandoned you and your wife at a time when they were very much needed.

      Happy to hear, however, that you are finding a real sense of community here. There are a lot of kind, caring folks here which is why I have been coming to this site for more years than I can remember.

    • CatCope

      They weren’t “friends”.
      You have Friends now with the JMG community.

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  • GanymedeRenard

    Thank you so very much, dear Joe, for your service to our community – and excuse the lateness of this post! You’re truly doing a great job here insofar as you’ve created an exciting, international, astute, sassy, compassionate, and clever community! On my part, even though I have never threatened anybody, I will try not to conjure any natural disasters to befall upon our foes. We’re better than them. Does fine sarcasm count, though? I’ll do my best. Much love!

  • Readen Reply

    Became a daily JMG reader because I could not stomach the haterade in the comments on Troll Road and then they banned me for posting a comment that the site encourages it to generate web hits and $. (TOS, i personally attacked the webmaster, FYI).

  • BeaverTales

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