BREAKING: US & Russia Announce Syria Peace Plan

Sky News reports:

The US and Russia are announcing a plan aimed at ending the Syrian civil war and leading to political transition in the country. The plan calls for a nationwide cessation of hostilities beginning at sundown on 12 September.

US Secretary of State John Kerry said the deal brokered with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov could be a “turning point” for the conflict if it is implemented. Mr Kerry added that if there is a sustained period of reduced violence in Syria, the US will work with Russia to develop strikes against the al Nusra front.

The pair spoke at a joint press conference after a lengthy day of negotiations in Geneva. Mr Lavrov added that the agreement would allow efficient co-operation in the struggle against terrorism – with expanded humanitarian access to some of Syria’s worst-affected towns and cities.

He said that the Syrian government were prepared to comply with the peace plan. If the ceasefire holds for seven days, the US and Russia would form a new military partnership designed to target IS and al Qaeda.

  • Lazycrockett

    But but Obama, Clinton and Kerry are total Jokes. Sad!

  • coram nobis

    So, who can deal with Putin? The Hairy Apricot doesn’t seem to be in this picture.

  • NancyP

    The Democrats’ September surprise?

    • Friday

      “Surprise, foreign policy takes time?” πŸ™‚

  • TK

    What great news and timing!! I truly hope that this somehow works. It would be such a perfect counter-punch to all of Drumpf’s endless trashing of Obama, Hillary and John Kerry. Just the fact they’ve worked out an agreement makes Chump look bad… and like the inexperienced moron that he is! Hillary must be thrilled to hear this.

    • coram nobis

      Does this at least partly lift the siege of Aleppo?

      • TampaDink

        Aleppos were great….too bad they weren’t enough to save Oldsmobile.

        • TK

          Yes and the Gremlins couldn’t save American Motors either. LOL Or the Pacer… the rolling aquarium.

          • Cherry

            My family had a Gremlin and a Pacer. My dad sure knew how to pick cars!

            Well, we did have a yellow Chevy Impala back in the ’70’s. That car wasn’t so bad.

          • TK

            My dad was a mechanic. We had so many odd and unusual cars from the 50’s through the early 70’s, I couldn’t even recall them all. One of the best was a ’58 canary yellow Cadillac Coupe de Ville. A smooth, quiet powerful beast of a car. A back seat like some VIP lounge. Loved it. Anyway… sorry to digress from such an important JMG new post.

          • TuuxKabin

            If that doesn’t bring Octavio out of hiding, nuttin’ will. Alas, tho, he’s a man of his word and has split this heavy scene. Hopefully to return with a post such as this one, and the mention of primo old cars.

          • TampaDink

            My parents taste in vehicles was rather boring. Almost all of them were Fords.

          • TuuxKabin

            Chevrolets here. Then mom split and got a ’59 Plymouth Belvedere. Ice berg blue. A whale of a car.

          • TampaDink

            I’d forgotten about the Pacer….now I’m wondering how many people who once drove one have died of skin cancer.

      • JT

        Gary Johnson would demur.

        • TampaDink

          Reminds me of one of my planned stage names.
          Cheyenne Demur.

          • JT

            Or Chanson Demur.

          • TampaDink

            Actually my first choice has been Trampoline Trailer Trash.
            When it is scream in a deep southern accent, by a large woman in pink plastic curlers, a stained mumu with a cigarette dangling as she holds an open bud it always comes across as a very believable name.

        • coram nobis

          Any five-year-old would know about Aleppo. Or, at least, the little five-year-old in the back of that ambulance.

          • LackofFaithify

            Carnival makeup and costume. Everyone knows it’s all bullshit. Must service Milo. Must service Daddy Trump. Ahahahalalala πŸ™‚

          • gaymex1

            Says who?

      • TK

        One can hope. My cynicism and suspicion is difficult to suspend on any such announcement. But it seems a step forward. If they can just reduce the level of carnage in Syria at all, it would be quite an accomplishment. The challenge seems very immense.

      • LackofFaithify

        In Russia, Peace Plan just means their shitty logistics tail has failed utterly and they need a week or so to get more bombs and shells.

      • EweTaw

        “What’s Aleppo?”

      • ceeenbee

        What’s an Aleppo?

      • Robincho

        “What’s a siege?” — Gary Johnson, Libertardian

    • TK

      So the US/Russia have a plan. The BIG question is can they get not only the Syrian gov’t to go along but also all the various fighting groups to join in. I can almost guarantee ISIS and Al Queda won’t agree to this.

      • Friday

        Militarily what’s prevented the US and Russia’s efforts from jelling have been different objectives: PUtin’d been trying to prop up Assad and attacking everyone in sight, thus basically aiding the radicals, and the US has been trying to get military aid and support to the *right* hard-to-pick out guys in the region.

        Short form here is if this ceasefire gets meaningful, the guys still attacking are ISIL and Al Queda and other people that are baddies to everyone.

  • TampaDink

    Don the con claims to have been involved in this….announcement in 3…..2…..1.

    • Homo Erectus

      He’s the best negotiator – ask anybody.

      • TampaDink

        The only thing he is better at than negotiation is building stuff.
        The only thing he is better at than building stuff is trading in aging wives for younger models.
        The only thing he is better at than trading in his wives is defrauding associates, vendors, etc.

        For once, I’d like him to prove that the only thing he’s better at than all of the above is assuming & maintaining room temperature.

    • Friday

      Actually someone ought to make him say how before details get out. If he gets it right we know Putin told him. πŸ™‚

      • TampaDink

        They probably use some sort of data sharing app..

        • Friday

          Grindictatr?

          • TampaDink

            Good one, Friday!

  • JT

    Putin involved? I’d be suspicious.

    • Perhaps, but unlike Trump, Putin and the Russians are perfectly capable of multitasking.

      • JT

        Tasking for Drumpf by causing a break before the election is what I’d be concerned about.

    • Friday

      I’m sure everyone involved still is. Even if that doesnt’ seem to be a standard Trump is held to.

  • danolgb

    In other news, Wikileaks is at it again. Trying to “prove” that Hillary used an earpiece in the Presidential Forum because of an email 7 years ago. Of course, they leave out the context that she was going to the UN and earpieces are used to hear translators. Does anyone still believe they’re about transparency?
    https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/774023424498892800

    • Yixing’s Fluffer

      They also threatened retribution against reporters uncovering their efforts to hide documents embarrassing to Russia.

      • IamM

        The stuff from Turkey & Suadi Arabia doxxing and outing people: Fly! Be free!

        Russia’s money: Oh, no need to put that out into the world.

    • Friday

      Will Ecuador just bust him for something like a minibar bill already?

      • ultragreen

        Sorry, Ecuador doesn’t receive its marching orders from U.S. imperialists anymore.

        • Friday

          How about Swedish rape victims and *anyone else in the world?*

    • Neely OHara

      Hope this indicative of the potency of his “October Surprise.”

      • Friday

        Many pickle jars died to bring us this information……

      • Bruno

        Think it indicates that he’s got nothing as of yet.

    • TampaDink

      Interesting that communication is dated Sept. 2009.

      • TuuxKabin

        Good catch!

        • TampaDink

          It was awfully nice of Huma to ask Sec. Clinton if she needed her earpiece almost 7 years in advance. I wonder if this note was asking (then, current) Sec. Clinton if she needed a translation device. Then again even THAT would be clear evidence of in shortcomings. Imagine a Sec. of State that didn’t speak every language on the planet!

    • SoCalGal20

      In-ear monitors are used by tv peope all the time so they can hear directions from the producer and whatnot. Looked like Drumpf was wearing one too.

      Also Assange throw himself off a cliff anytime now.

      • danolgb

        I don’t think she was wearing one at all. Her ear just caught some light and Alex Jones went on one of his conspiracy jaunts. Anyone who know her knows she’s wonky enough to know things without help.

        • SoCalGal20

          I don’t know for a fact if she was wearing one or not but I did see discussion of it somewhere saying it could have been an in-ear monitor, and that it is not uncommon for people who make appearances on talk shows and whatnot to wear them so they can hear the stage directions and stuff, like when they’re breaking to commercial and so forth.

          Point is, I am sure she doesn’t need somebody feeding her info through one. If anybody is getting fed info like that it’s Drumpf since their strategy is always accuse your opponent of the thing you’re doing.

    • Beagle

      I remember 9/23/2009. Not just any day at the UN. Ahmedinajad spoke. So, not an ordinary day at the UN.

      We drove into Manhattan that day. (One of our cats was at a specialist vet there. Sadly, we had to put the cat to sleep that day.). Took us forever to get by the traffic and security around the UN.

      On the bright side, a cute blond police officer complimented The Husband’s Ford Mustang.

  • EweTaw

    Trump isn’t going to like this. It doesn’t show tough leadership at all.

    • TrollopeReader

      cow-towing to the commies! at least trump only cowtows to the russkie oligarchs in brighton beach, nyc !

      • Mihangel apYrs

        Kowtow, dear.

        • TrollopeReader

          i know, i know !! πŸ™‚

          but you never know … cow tipping, and all ….

          • Mihangel apYrs

            what’s the going rate for tipping a cow (10%?)

  • AtticusP

    Thanks, Obama!

    Seriously! Thanks Obama!

    We’re going to miss you.

    • Strepsi

      And his team of actually statesmanlike diplomats.

      Thanks Kerry.

      Remember, the 15 contenders behind Trump — who may get positions — are all actually worse.

  • Lazycrockett

    Joy, Chris and Katy is taking this Drumpf asshat to the cleaners over birtherism.

    • TrollopeReader

      and how .

  • Ninja0980

    I know a deal has to be done with Russia but let’s not forget Putin is still a murderous lying snake and so is Assad.

    • coram nobis

      It just means that every i needs to be dotted on the agreement. And Kerry, when he shakes the Russians’ hands, should count his fingers afterward.

    • RNegron

      Obama, Kerry and Hillary know that very well. Is her Drumf that has trouble with that concept.

    • Friday

      My two bits says Putin getting his snake Assad off to a retirement villa or something euphemizeable as one might well be part of this, though. Guess we’ll see how it plays out, here.

    • another_steve

      I’m considering this “deal” as a PR stunt only.

      “Negotiating” with the thug Russian regime is like “negotiating” with the thug Donald Trump.

  • Cuberly

    Dahnald: “What deal, I saw the deal, it’s a bad deal, bad deal, Kerry folded, folded, it’s a bad deal, I know Putin, Putin and I are friends, you need friends in situations like this, friends, I could get a better deal and we’d be outta there by the end of Sept. It’s a bad deal, the deal is bad, who trusts it, I don’t trust it, who trusts it, it’s a bad deal, a bad deal….*

    *(and it just sorta goes on like that.)

    • Rosa Lee

      You left out the all important, “Believe me!”

      • Droz

        And at least three utterances of, “YYYUUUUUUUGE”

      • Cuberly

        Oooo, good catch. Yeah he does say that a lot doesn’t he.

      • Piercedchrlz

        Yes! I have found that people who repeatedly say trust me, believe me, in order to convince me or others of something, are usually lying.

        • bkmn

          Through their teeth. It is a con man’s phrase, hence why Trump says it a lot.

      • teeveedub

        “I can tell you this.” “Believe me.” “Terrible. Terrible!” “It’s a disaster.” Isn’t it amazing that half the world (or at least half the internet) has picked up on all his catch phrases, his speech cadences, and his “tells.”

    • CanuckDon

      Rich Little couldn’t do a better impression!

      • BlueberriesForMe

        I was wondering if he was still living – and he is! And he’s from Canada. But I’m sure you already knew that :=).

        • CanuckDon

          Hmmmm…I do now!

      • Cuberly

        lol…the key is the repetition. lol…

    • DaddyRay

      Why didn’t we take the oil

    • Neely OHara

      …sad.

    • Bruno

      Even just imagining him saying this makes me want to smack the shit out of him.

      • Cuberly

        Mentioned this before but I can’t bear listening to him any more. He makes me want to get all stabby.

        How people can fall for his incompetence and not realize he obviously has some sort of condition that makes him talk the way he does, is beyond me.

        • TuuxKabin

          El hubby and I collide sometimes, going for the volume dial on the radio when his voice comes on.

          • Cuberly

            Trumperobics….right up there with Palinerobics…running to shut that shit off.

        • IamM

          M: Yes, officer somehow Mr Trump fell off the roof. Yes, somehow the gargoyles also fell off the roof in the same spot.

    • pj

      yeah….its been months

  • TuuxKabin

    Good! And that it is John Kerry and Russia’s equivalent will hopefully take any wind out of the windbag’s sail if he starts taking credit for it by advising Putin.

  • TrollopeReader

    O/T … Cong. (ret) Kingston (GA) is being torn, ripped to shreds, destroyed on Hardball by Matthews, Joy and Katy Tur (reporter) who is *livid* re Birtherism ….

    • Lazycrockett

      It was like three badgers going after a lamb.

      • TrollopeReader

        but i like little lambs! Kingston is … .hmmmf. not worth the effort.

  • TrollopeReader

    Damn It. I hate it when Kerry and the Obama admin. does something good for the world, and peace and actually earn their salaries … and gee, working with the Russkies ..just more damn proof (as with the Iran deal) that they are nothing but commie squishes . (yes, total snark. this cabinet had been quite effective. Thanks, Obama!)

  • TuuxKabin

    Damn good news dump Friday, Joe. Thank you. Makes the beginning of the weekend worth crawling out from under the bed! A highly Recommended red heart vote.

    • barrixines

      It certainly is. How are you? Tonight is the last night of my summer holiday here on the French Riviera. I am here at my father in law’s house with what is very much the logical family – the same group of friends and blood relatives who have been getting together every summer since we banded together when my lovely mother in law was dying from cancer about six years ago. We get together and over indulge with the same food and drink, sit out too long in the same Mediterranean sun, argue over the same game of petanque and all quietly content ourselves with the fact that, even with absent friends, it really doesn’t get much better than this. As usual I will have to be poured onto the plane in the morning.

      • TuuxKabin

        This ‘post’ lifted my spirits that are already rising from the other posts re: the $100k ‘bribe’ to the foundation trying to defeat our NYS AG’s efforts to investigate drumpf’s shenanigans. The Pam Bondi bit, i.e. The Ft. Liquordale Sentinel’s editorial wanting an investigation to that bribe. Gradually I’m climbing out of an “I don’t want to be on this planet anymore” fight or flight frame of mind. And now we’re about to roast up some peppers for an appetizer that always sets of a delightful round of ‘tickled’ sneezing. Thanks for asking! Tho we don’t have the Mediterranean sun and sea, our wee 11×14 deck gives us enjoyment for being outside. Your family gathering/reunion sounds like it’ll give you a good, long sense of contentment, being poured into the plane in the morning notwithstanding. Hope you have a quick and happy flight back to, BCN, your destination?

        • barrixines

          Yes back to BCN. What is lovely is that although tonight has that slightly sad last night of the holiday feeling, September is actually the biggest party month in Barcelona. Coming up next week is La Merce, the festa major for the Cuitat Vella. Which means castellers, correfocs and fireworks,

          http://www.castellerssagradafamilia.cat/sites/default/files/P1350881.JPG
          https://marginalmootility.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/correfoc2.gif

          http://estaticos.elperiodico.com/resources/jpg/8/2/piromusical-merce-1380096772828.jpg

          • TuuxKabin

            Shocking gorgeous activities in a shocking gorgeous city. Of the little bit of international traveling I’ve done, I’ll always be grateful I got stuck in Barcelona for four months. Every day was an amazing sight, and that was when Franco was still alive.

          • barrixines

            I really felt for Octavio the other day when he said the current news cycle – and reading about it here in JMG – was having a negative effect on him and his loved ones. I get like it too and I have to remind myself that as crappy as the world gets, I actually have it damned good.

            Speaking of Franco, I was in a run down gay bar down south in Andalucia a while ago watching an elderly drag queen. I was expecting the usual lip-synching to Sara Montiel and Isabel Pantoja and what I got was this electfrying monologue about her life under Franco. What I got from it was not only that these girls knew how to live, these girls really knew how to survive.

          • TuuxKabin

            Sara Montiel was a naturalized citizen of MΓ©xico. Both, Sara Montiel and Isabel Pantoja striking gorgeous. I have them lined up on youtube after el hubby gets thru Bonnie Raitt while preppin’ dinner.

            Yeah, Octavio, and medaka – that lil’ blue Charley the Tuna – inspired me to take a pause. Lasted about a week, today is the first time I feel activated into taking part in the thread and it’s helped the desperate despair I was experiencing. A safety in numbers that works, here at JMG.

          • barrixines

            Oh don’t rush through the Bonnie Rait.

            Have no idea if it was in Barcelona when you visited but there is a bar La Concha which is sort of a gay Arab flamenco bar just off the Ramblas which is a monument to Sara Montiel.
            https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/06/e2/7e/be/la-concha.jpg

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T5NuI6Ai-o

          • TuuxKabin

            Impeccable timing, barrixines, we had dinner, and now, over lemon tart/pie, Bonnie Raitt & John Prine just finished ‘Angel From Montgomery’. El hubby’s got Sara y Isabel lined up next on Spotify.

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          • Do Something Nice

            The first bar I visited on my first trip to Barcelona in 1999. I love that place!

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          • TuuxKabin

            Sara Montiel was portrayed in Almodovar’s “Bad Education”, the Gael Garcia Bernal role. Who knew?

          • DaddyRay

            That is awesome

          • barrixines

            And very dangerous. There is no such thing as a Spanish celebration when children and adults alike aren’t in peril. It is sooo different from the health and safety obsessed British.

          • TuuxKabin

            Ditto in MΓ©xico.

          • barrixines

            It’s sort of heartwarming and terrifying too. For instance with the castellers. They will go eight people high and always on top will be a five or six year old child. And the towers fall. Continuously.

          • TuuxKabin

            I was cringing reading that.

          • TuuxKabin

            Like MΓ©xico, Spain must not be a litigious country.

          • barrixines
          • TuuxKabin

            Good gawd, no! Feast of Corpus Christi, could be some corpses alright. The freedom and abandon of some of the holidays we’ve been to in MΓ©xico were like a confirmation of being alive. Everyone in the fiesta so animated, almost glowing. La violetera (Hits From My Movies, album) is playing now, Sara Montiel. Going to look for her movies next.

          • barrixines

            She was quite a girl – she had Hemingway, James Dean and Burt Lancaster amongst others. Beautiful in her time but succumbed as so many unfortunately do to the inappropriate face lift. Here she is about eighty singing with another absolute Spanish legend, the wonderful Alaska. Not the greatest song but what the hell it’s the two of them together

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95kpTK5vm3w

          • TuuxKabin

            Oh good lawd! I’m going to watch it in the morning. My eyes are so tired right now, I’ve got to go to bed. It’s been a great night, like a party. Thanks for initiating so much! I want to return to tell you about meeting some Spanish soldiers on Ibiza on a moon lite night, up on a hill top over looking the sea. A few of them may be one or two of those drag queens you mentioned in Andalucia. They knew how to live underground!

          • barrixines

            Thank you for your time this evening. It’s been a delight.

          • TuuxKabin

            Rally it has! Did you stay up all night? It’s just midnight here, crack of dawn there? Early flight to be poured into? GodsPeed on your journey. /s

            And magnificent job with so called American. I blocked him first thing. Thank you for clarifying his purpose in life, since he obviously has no idea what it maybe.

          • TuuxKabin

            Good morning. Trust you’re home, safe and sound.

            Sara, without the ‘h’, means princess, did she really deserved to be strangled at the end of that? The drama, ay.

            Bob/2guysnamedjoe, commented re: the drag queens in Andalucia you mentioned and their stories of life during Franco, may have been some of the soldiers I told him about when I was on Ibiza.

            Traveling mates, both from the Bronx – I seem to have an affinity for Bronx men – and I were sitting on a hill, watching the moon play on the water, bota bags tucked under each arm. We’d just returned from Formentera and were a bit damp from the rocking boat and waves crashing over the bow. Didn’t think we’d make it.

            A group of militia came trudging up the hill, rifles over their shoulders, not in formation, just in a line that seemed formidable enough to concern us as they semi encircled us.

            The one ‘in charge’ broke the air of intimidation we felt and handed us a pipe of hashish. They got us wrecked, we shared our bota bags, and joined them on their way to their barracks. It was a changing of the guard.

            They took us in, sat us down and had us eat their evening meal with them and invited us to go out with them to a disco. The ‘leader’ told us, “ustedes pagan nada!”

            They got out of their military gear and three or four of them into ladies garments under their street clothing and off we went until almost mid morning the next day. They took care of us at the disco, brought us rounds of drinks, nodded approval of who to dance with, or with a ‘no no’ subtle movement of the index finger to advise us not to dance with that person or the other.

            It blew us away and on our return to BCN days later we were still talking about them. They’re living in the military, clandestino. All night partying, clandestino. Their hashish smoking, clandestino . . . so, your comments about the show(s) you saw in Andalucia made Bob think and say, “maybe one of them could have been one of those soldiers you met”.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUC-7uFH1gs#t=9.142521

            Had the experience of hearing them in Central Park while touring . . . early 2000’s? Fantastico! IMHO. But, I’m a ‘rocker’.

          • Do Something Nice

            I’ll be missing it this year, but I’ll be there November, December and part of January. Here are a few of my photos from last year or the year before. I like the photo of the sparks hitting people in the head at the correfoc.

          • barrixines

            The first time I went to a correfoc I thought – so this is what it is like to be in a terrorist incident, And those sparks hurt when you’re right in under the pitchforks. I live in Sant Antoni – instead of a drac we have a pig.

            Thank you for the photographs – I think until people have actually experienced it right in there under the dragons, they have no idea just how intense it can be.

          • Do Something Nice

            My first time was in Sitges and when I saw what was going on, I was thinking that it is for young adolescent males to participate. And at that same moment, I saw an old – maybe 85 year old lady holding the hands of what looked to be 5 year old grandchildren running toward a firework-spewing chicken, and then later boasting of the burn holes in their clothing.

          • barrixines

            That’s so funny. My very first Sant Joan in Barcelona – watching the abuelitas handing lit fireworks to their grandchildren, trying to disguise the fact that I was completely horrified.

          • TuuxKabin

            Incredible!

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      • DaddyRay

        That is where I am heading. We are renting a house outside Avingnon and will be doing day trips around Provence and the French Riviera. Sitting at the airport waiting on my flight

        • TuuxKabin

          Bon voyage. Hope you have a fabulous trip and can avoid all the madness going on.

        • barrixines

          Have a lovely time. There have been record temperatures in this part of France this week – hopefully it will cool a little now. I was in Avignon last summer as a halfway stop between Barcelona and here (HyΓ¨res). I must say I am not sure why we sang about that bridge quite so much.

          I hope we will get to see photos.

          • DaddyRay

            Yeah I was warned it was going to be warm. I have heard the song about the bridge, is that something that is taught to kids ?

          • Salton

            Yes, Sur le pont d’Avignon is a very popular song of the French folklore.

        • Hope you don’t get car-bombed by a lovely Muslim.

          • barrixines

            Well it will make a change from getting shot by a Christian in the US. Seriously how much of a wanker are you?

          • And the Orlando shooter was Christian.

            Seriously how stupid are you?

          • barrixines

            I’m fifty I have lived in Europe all my life. So far I haven’t been bombed by any Muslims. I have however been caught in bomb explosions by the IRA – you know those Christians who were funded in large part by Americans.

          • “So far I haven’t been bombed by any Muslims”

            Heard immunity. You have been lucky.

            It is still ramping up.

            As Europe become Eurabia at some point you will move.

            You are obviously too much of a fucking drooler to understand demographics?

            Did you pass the 3rd grade or were you socially promoted?

          • barrixines

            I live in Spain. Ninety six percent of people aren’t Muslims. I have more chance of being knocked over by an Amish wagon.

            So who’s the fucking drooler?

          • They have Amish in Spain? What are you smoking?

            96% of the people are not Muslims. …and a generation ago 99+% were not Muslim.

            Apparently, you are too fucking stupid to understand or too fucking dishonest to admit to demographic trends.

            U R the ruling drooler.

          • barrixines

            So – in possibly fifteen or sixteen generations you might have some miniscule point you fucking inbred.

          • In 20 or 40 years (1 or 2 gen ) Europe can be majority Muslim

            Considering who has the children and who does not, Pew is under-reporting

            “The Muslim share of Europe’s total population has been increasing steadily. In recent decades, the Muslim share of the population throughout Europe grew about 1 percentage point a decade, from 4% in 1990 to 6% in 2010. This pattern is expected to continue through 2030, when Muslims are projected to make up 8% of Europe’s population.” – PEW

          • Do Something Nice

            OMG, 8%? Grab the children and do something stupid.

          • Most popular baby name in Britain is Mohammed.

            Between immigration and birth rates, will PEW have to adjust their stats to show more Muslims?

            The answer, fuckwit, is yes.

            Now the 2nd question. After lowballing Muslim demographic trends, how many times will PEW,have to adjust their projection upward, fuckwit?

          • barrixines

            Well over here in Europe we just happen to like the name Mohammed more than we do Cletus.

          • So when 205 of the grade school is Muslim you will tell me that demographic trends will show that Islam will on;y be 8% of the pop. in Europe in 20 years.

            Old people in assisted living homes do not count much as far as public policy. 20% of the young population being Muslim would.

          • So barrixines, what you are telling me is that you are so fucking diseased and stupid that you cannot interpret a POPULATION PYRAMID chart.

            LMFAO @ U

          • barrixines

            So in 2030 92 percent of Europe will not be Muslim.

            Math is hard isn’t it fuckwit.

          • Reading must be very hard for you.

            “Considering who has the children and who does not, Pew is under-reporting”

          • barrixines

            So Pew has to be under reporting by how many thousand percent to make your bedwetter gnashing about Sharia Law even the least bit pertinent?

            What fucks me off about you is not the oooh the brownies are going to bomb us crap – that’s standard operational bullshit for a right wing special ed case like you. It’s the fact that we were all quite happy chatting, being thankful for what we have, enjoying the sense of community here at JMG and you had to squirt your diarrhoea all over it. You saw something pleasant you weren’t part of and unhappy bitter little queen you are you had to lift your party dress and spread your feculent arse cheeks. Sucks to be you.

          • The Visigoths ruled Spain and they were 2% of the population.

            does a little bedwetter such as yourself dare to live in Malmo, Sweden?

            No, because you know what a fucktard hypocrite liar you are.

          • barrixines

            Have spent quite a lot of time in Malmo. Also I spent fifteen years living in Whitechapel in London which is majority Muslim. I then moved to Barcelona to the Raval for eight years which is also majority Muslim. Next caller please.

          • I have seen what happened to Christians in Hamtramck and Dearbon, Michigan to believe your tripe.

            I also read what Bruce Bawer and others write about what it is like to be gay or Jewish in Europe nowadays

            Not only are you a stupid fuck but you are a lying fuck

          • barrixines

            I’m very sorry that your counot exactry doesn’t have universal healthcare. You seem to be in a lot of pain. In my country society would pay for you to heal whatever it is that is hurting you.

          • We were not talking about healthcare. We were talking about ingroup/ outgroup dynamics.

            Since you lost, you changed the subject.

            I accept your surrender on the previous subject.

          • Oscarlating Wildely

            Um, Hamtramck was Polish and remained as such for decades. Now, demographics are more like Detroit, which is primarily African American. Dearborn has been heavily Arab, Muslim, and Chaldean for ages, as in almost half a century. It also used to have a mayor who would give Wallace and Trump a run for their money. Christians in Dearborn? Do tell; I can’t wait to see how Sharia law effected my childhood without me realizing it.

          • We are talking about what is now. We are not talking about what it was 100 years ago.

            I also see that you lied or are clueless about Hamtramck

            “Um, Hamtramck was Polish Catholic, and remained as such for decades. Now, demographics are more like Detroit, which is primarily African American.”

            Try about 5% African American and over 40% Muslim.

            Either you can’t add or you lie.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamtramck,_Michigan#2010_census

          • CatApostrophe

            Just stoppin’ by to reenforce your point about Dearborn. My (white, Catholic) dad was born there in 1945 and lived there or in Detroit until his early 20’s. He told me Dearborn always had a thriving Arab community for as long as he could remember, and there was never any unfriendliness that he could recall amongst his neighbors re: religion, skin color, nationality, etc. 71 years later, seems to be about the same. I think Samantha Bee did a segment where she went to Dearborn and tried to goad community leaders into admitting they were secret terrorists plotting to foist Sharia law onto the city, and they were like, “Nah, we just regular Americans. Some of us are like 3rd or 4th generation by now.”

          • Paul

            For all the talk of roving gangs of black / muslim men in London, the only people who’ve harassed me in the 15 years i’ve lived here have been white English people. And I’m as white and English as they come.

          • Oscarlating Wildely

            “I have more chance of being knocked over by an Amish wagon.”

            Careful! I live in PA. Trust me: those wagons can cause some damage!
            They carry great jam, though.

          • barrixines

            Nothing to say I see about how your country funded terrorism against my (British) people?

          • aar9n

            Oh geez, can we just say he’s a Russian plant? I mean his username is “American” and he can’t write to save his life.

          • I never paid taxes that went to the IRA.

            Maybe Ted Kennedy gave money to the IRA, but it is so hard to prosecute Democrat scum.

          • barrixines

            My family were dodging bullets on the Falls Road Belfast – shielding children in their coats – paid for by cnuts like you. Don’t you fucking dare tell me about brown skinned people when you did this to my country.

          • I do not have Irish in me. Nor have I donated to the IRA.

            Go fuck yourself wanker.

          • barrixines

            So – every Mooslim in Europe is a terrrist but you’re not responsible for anything any other American does? How does that work? Why not get back to fucking your cojoined sister cause you’re way out of your league here with the big boys and girls.

          • I am cojoined with someone from the middle Kingdom. Basically, they are about as far apart as possible. If I dug a hole through thru earth (thru its center) and came out the other side, I would find a person who has no possibility of inbreeding with me.

            You on the other hand fuck shit holes.

            The # of soldiers in the US is a small, % of the population much like the # of terrorists is small % of the Muslim population.

            Lets talk about PEW surveys of Muslim attitudes toward infidels, women, gays, etc. They are quite supportive of Muslim terrorists.

          • BobSF_94117

            You’ve never had Irish in you?!?!? Oh, I highly recommend it.

          • Seeing as I do not as far as I know (Although I also thought I had no Italian ancestry and then we found a WOP in the woodpile) and seeing as how I am married to a non-Irish person that ain’t going to happen.

            I made the comment to refute the cretin’s allegation that I had contributed to the IRA.

            Not being Catholic nor Irish, I do not see why the cretin would have thought I donated to the IRA.

            Now Irish in Massachusetts might have. That would be and would have been wrong. It should be prosecuted. but seeing as we have many more salient problems such as morons like John Kerry marching with Soviet front groups in the early 1980s and other crap., there were other things way more important to pay attention to or prosecute.

          • BobSF_94117

            One would think that a person, such as yourself, who holds entire populations responsible for the actions of even a small minority of their members, would exhibit some intellectual integrity and accept that AMERICANS are in fact responsible for a great deal of IRA funding over many decades.

            On the other hand, what am I smoking…

          • Surveys of Muslim populations show that they adhere to the same belief system as Al Qaeda, ISIS and other groups.

            You know killing gays, killing Jews, Killing Christians, killing whoever.

            Do you have a survey of American showing anywhere near as much support for the IRA as the Muslim population has for ISIS or Al Qaeda? Please be honest. Try.

          • TrollopeReader

            odd question from someone from someone with a first-grade vocabulary. back to the trailer park for you.

          • Sorry, my GRE scores qualify me for MENSA.

            Try again.

          • Oscarlating Wildely

            So… you took the GRE prior to 2001? Those scores are pretty old; the exam changed. MENSA has realized that test does not correlate with qualification any longer and doubted its cross application for years before that point: “[E]ven the GRE (since Oct., 2001) cannot be considered a true aptitude test and a valid basis for evidence to qualify for Mensa membership.”

          • Tests like the ACT or SAT correlate about 60%. There is too much scatter for them to consider them.

            I just checked. Yup, I qualify.

            http://www.us.mensa.org/join/testscores/qualifyingscores/

          • TrollopeReader

            yah…..riiiiighhhhht. uneducated white trailer trash is more like it.

          • 1) Where does one pay ~ $ 8k a year in property taxes for a trailer, when they don’t live in one of the top 10 MSAs?

            2) I remember my scores, because the prof remarked they were odd. They were even across the board instead of being high in 1 category and low in another.

            I meet both of these requirements.
            a) Prior to 5/1994 (quantitative + verbal) – 1250

            b) From 5/1994 to 9/30/2001 (quantitative + verbal + analytic) – 1875

          • CKKimber

            “They were even across the board instead of being high in 1 category and low in another.”

            That would actually be in line with a shallow, narcissistic thinker who communicates exclusively in a rote, angry monotone. So I believe you on that count, at least.

          • Joe Jervis’s was gushing, pathetic and naive.

            But on 2nd thought why bother? Kerry is a fool. the ceasefire will collapse just like the one he negotiated in February. At this pace when this deal falls through, Kerry will have time to proclaim another one in December for 1 last Hurrah.

            JMG will come out with another gushing headline of a Kool Aide Drinker and you will be here to lap it all up.

            I have seen further news on the deal. The Iranians do not back it. Best guestimate was that it provided Obama with a tattered figleaf to cover his retreat from helping the FSA and the Kurds.

            Other News was that Soleiman was in Aleppo. That should tell you much, but you would rather JMG blow smoke up your arse.

          • Oscarlating Wildely

            Honest question: where were you? I ask as my family was in Warrington and close friend’s mother in Brighton during the attacks.

          • aar9n
          • aar9n

            Go directly to Fuck Yourself. Do not pass Go. Do not collect 200 Dusche points.

          • TuuxKabin

            Blocked his butt after his first comment. Plop, plop, fizz fizz, oh what a relief it is.

          • aar9n

            I will eventually. I just had to get out some snark I have leftover from the week.

          • TuuxKabin

            After a week of ‘hiding under the bed’ I was just in the mood to answer his comment about me being delusional, then blocking him. Don’t remember seeing ‘American’ before. Drive by, obviously. Good night. Was like a party here tonight.

          • My nieces went to Paris in July.

            I was concerned. That they lived is due to chance and herd immunity. They visited in between terrorist events. It was not due to smart policy by libtardians

            The stupid idiot Hollande only got lucky as leader because the terrorists could not set off their bomb.

            Is a stupid bitch such as yourself going to get lucky that another good Muslim will fail setting off their bomb? Is that your survival strategy?

          • aar9n

            Was it the yourself part or the fuck part that you didn’t understand?

          • What part of Sharia law being increasingly implemented in the West does your idiot mind not comprehend?

          • barrixines

            Sharia Law being implemented in the west? What a fucking imbecilic half witted honking moron you are.

          • You are a very special type of stupid aren’t you?

            Nearly 1,500 child marriages on the books in Germany

          • barrixines

            Tell me again how old was Jerry Lee Lewis’s wife? How old was that good ol boy Elvis when he started fucking Priscilla?

          • Tell me again what happened to his popularity?

            “The publicity caused an uproar and the tour was cancelled after only three concerts.” – wiki

            You are too easy. Are you are moron or are you just pretending to be a moron full time IRL?

          • barrixines

            “In the state of Virginia, it is officially still legal for girls as young as 12 or 13 to be brought to a courthouse with evidence of a pregnancy and wed…”

            Several states – including Massachusetts – allow children to get married ‘in exceptional circumstances’

            http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/child-marriage-chart-reveals-girls-can-still-get-married-at-12-in-some-parts-of-the-us-as-lawmakers-a6921246.html

          • I knew a girl, who got married in the 6th grade.

            Her name was Rona. The kids picked on her constantly and ferociously. After she Left school, I heard some teacher talking about her. She got married and was happy. She was jewish and she had matured early, very early. There are exceptions to the rule.

            Now as to your other point. You are talking about the 13 colonies. When those laws were written, what was the mortality rate? You do not know, because YOU ARE A DUMB FUCK.

            “For Europe as a whole, 1500 is often considered to be the end of the Middle Ages,[13] but there is no universally agreed upon end date.” – wiki

            So when those laws were written n the 17th and 8th century, they were not much removed form the Middle Ages when life was nasty, brutish and short (Hobbes). If the average age of death is 35 or something like that, then getting married as a teenager makes sense.

            I bet you have no idea of of mortality in the ancient world, Dark Ages, Middle ages or the colonial period, because you are just one of the dumbest fucks!

          • Oscarlating Wildely

            the Middle Ages when life was nasty, brutish and short (Hobbes).
            And that is an incredibly myopic view of the late Medieval/Early Modern period, which was experienced very differently across the continent.

          • So Demographic transition is a myth?

          • Gigi

            Don’t feed the troll.

          • aar9n
          • Jesus was from the Mediterranean region. He had an olive complexion or tan if you will.

            So, if you thin you can say white Jesus and get a rise out of me, well you just showed your ignorance, which you have in abundance.

          • aar9n

            Jesus was a homosexual lizard.

          • We were discussing skin color, because you brought it up.

            Being the dumb fuck that you are, you thought that Jesus being Semitic and non-white would upset me.

            So now you are going to allege bestiality or some other sick thought that comes to your diseased mind?

          • aar9n

            Homosexual lizard, dumbfuck.

          • Must be some sort of slang that diseased minds have conjured up.

            you do realize that the EPA is tracking LGBT people now. Why is that?

          • BobSF_94117

            People always project today’s ethnic mix into the past. Millennia ago, ethnic divisions and contrasts in appearance were much more pronounced because people just hadn’t traveled very much, with the exception of merchants. Of course there was mixing, but there was no “Mediterranean olive”. The Moors hadn’t invaded Spain nor the Spanish Sicily. Distinct tribal populations existed across North Africa and Southern Europe. The Romans began the first Great Mixing. Of course, it was nothing compared to today.

          • The people of Southwester France, Iberia, Morocco and Algeria have the same genotype. that covers a large area.

            We are also talking about latitude and climate. Latitude has large effect on skin color or did you not get the memo?

            “On the other hand, Iberia has the strongest genetic proximity in Europe to North Africa.”

            So I guess proximity must mean the Spanish and North Africans are far apart genetically. they look like totally different man. The Celts settling in Iberia lightened them up. Iberians are closely related to the North African Hamitic people since Neolithic times. Of course the Hamitic people are related to the Semitic and Cushitic people more so than other Caucasians.

          • vorpal

            OH NOES! The Sharias are coming! Duck and cover!
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCfWHqrYUqo

          • Have there not been Sharia patrols in London?

          • vorpal

            libtardians

            There’s that clever conservative humor!
            Do tell, because I’ve always wondered: how do you choose between libtard and libturd, since it seems to be the only funneeeee that you ever seem to muster up? Is there a general rule of thumb between when to use these hilarious witticisms?

          • So if you were lucky enough to go to Paris, would you fear Muslim terrorists or Christian terrorists?

          • vorpal

            I was in Paris in summer of 2015. I feared neither.

            When I return to the US, I will again fear neither, because I choose not to live my life in fear. If I had to choose, Christian RWNJ terrorists all the way.

          • Yes, because you do not use trains in Europe, shop at malls, or attend converts that Muslims increasingly attack.

            dumb fuck that you are, you probably think that the Orlando massacre was caused by a Christian.

          • vorpal

            Nope, I know that the Orlando massacre was not caused by a Christian. It is, however, the result of right-wing religious ideologies, of which fundamentalist Christianity and radical Islam are two same peas in a very disgusting, fetid pod: same G-D, different stupid.

            Several Christian douchebag nutjobs have been arrested lately for making threats against the gay community, stating that they intended to cause the next Orlando.

          • Oscarlating Wildely

            I just got back from Germany and Paris.
            Americans scared me far, far more than anyone else that I encountered there, Muslim or otherwise. That and the prices when I visited Switzerland. Seriously, people, how do you afford it?

          • I am sure the Americans you met have killed as many people as the Muslims in Europe have killed in Europe in the last year.

            Maybe you are just upset that you were not in KΓΆln when all the women were getting raped or sexually molested and you feel put out because you were unmolested.

          • Salton

            I’ve been spending the summer months in Paris for the last fifteen years and decided not to live in fear. Il n’arrive que ce qu’il doit arriver!

          • vorpal

            The only fear of death that I hold is the knee-jerk biological self-preservation reaction that my brain invokes at the thought of no longer existing.

            When I pause for a second and allow myself to be rational instead of simply emotional, I have zero fear of death. That doesn’t mean that I actively want to die, of course, but as someone who has faced the real possibility of death a few times, I am perfectly fine with it happening at any time.

            Thus, I really have nothing to fear.

            I find it quite humourous that it’s generally those who believe that they will enjoy some blissful eternal afterlife of wonder and delight that are the most terrified of dying.

          • Salton

            I can’t agree more. When you reach my age, 92, you know that whatever you do, your days are numbered; so it is useless to worry about something there is nothing you can do about! Enjoy every day, act as if you were going to live for ever, and let the worrying to those people who believe, as they were told, they’ll burn in hell for the eternity!

          • vorpal

            92!!! Wow! That is fantastic and good for you!
            I bet you have acquired some fascinating stories during that time!

            All our days are numbered :D. I’ll be turning 39 this month and who knows how long I’ll be here? I take relatively decent care of myself, exercising daily and eating healthy, but I do so enjoy my chemicals of various types, so you never know what will give :-).

            Glad to meet a kindred spirit when it comes to death and dying. I am not inconvenienced or scared in the slightest that the universe existed for 13+ billion years before my birth. Why should I be remotely inconvenienced or frightened in the slightest that it will continue on for far more after my death?

          • Salton

            Well, happy birthday to you and many returns of the day. I lied, I’m not quite 92. I still have three months to go!
            You learn something new every day, whether it is worthy of your attention or not, but it keeps you going and looking ahead. Thank to the FSM, chemicals, as you call them, were unknown to me in my youth and my only knowledge of them is second hand! Please, please, be very careful. Stay in good health, that is priceless. Take care.

          • vorpal

            Thank you kindly!

            The FSM is awesome. Parmesan Be Upon Him!

            I wouldn’t be half the kitty I was today were it not for my experiences with chemicals of various sorts. I am extremely thankful to them, even if they have been, at times, a brutal master.

            I will do my best to be careful :-).

          • DaddyRay

            This is my second trip to France this year. I refuse to let frear control my life.

          • Fear is like pain. It is a warning signal.

            You should not let emotions control you, but you should pay attention to them. I know a person who exercised through a lot of pain. They ignored the signal. Now they have very little cartilage in their weight bearing joint and are screwed.

            When I went to Paris a decade ago to visit relatives, I do not remember problems with Muslims.
            Are you waiting to get bitch slapped by reality? How soon before gays are attacked as frequently as Jews in France?

        • Salton

          You’ll have to dance on the pont d’Avignon.

        • Gigi

          Bon voyage!

      • Robincho

        Petanque, eh? Might you by any chance be an aficionado of Persian Monarchs? (Asking for a friend named Wodehouse…)

    • the richest man ever to run for president, John Kerry (worth billions and who had 7 or 8 homes), is vainly trying to stay relevant.

      The Russians have the upper hand. Fighting will continue again and the Iranians, Russians, Hezbollah and Syrian Army will steam roll the opposition in 3 years time.

      A cease fire is a time to re-arm and reload. Maybe it should not be that way, but that is what it is in this case.

      Tuux is so delusional.

      • unclemike

        You’re hilarious.

        • Whiskered Sot

          It’s not even true, big shocker.

          The 6 richest candidates for President ever

          http://mashable.com/2015/08/06/trump-richest-candidates/#z9.b5Fhi.sqY

          Lookee who’s number 2!

        • So Kerry was not the richest man to run for president?

          R U for REALZ?

          • Whiskered Sot

            No, he was not. Richest Democrat, but that’s not what you’re saying.

            http://mashable.com/2015/08/06/trump-richest-candidates/#z9.b5Fhi.sqY

            Now piss off, wanker.

          • So the sot shows me that Kerry had a bigger silver spoon than Trump. Wow, are you a dumb shit.

            Kerry does not benefit from his wife’s wealth?

          • BobSF_94117

            Uh… “silver spoon” means you’re born into wealth like, say, the Bush brood (four generations at least). Kerry married wealth. And well.

          • Kerry came from wealth. His family have been Boston Brahmins from way back. They also engaged in the China trade.

            If you look hard enough you see the name Forbes and Winthrop.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Blackwell_Forbes

            Nothing like a little drug running to increase the family fortune and impoverish a billion people.

            Kerry’s silver spoon was bigger than Bush’s. Until Prescott Sheldon Bush, the Bush’s were no where in the same league as Kerry’s ancestors the Forbes. Maybe it was because they did not engage in activities such as the slave trade, opium or bootlegging.

            I would like to see you defend Kerry’s wealth IRL. You might want to avoid certain parts of the world.

          • BobSF_94117

            There was wealth in his extended family. Not in his family unit. Not “silver spoon” stuff.

          • “There was wealth in his extended family. Not in his family unit.”

            1) Which he is worth $200 million outside of his marriage to Theresa Heinz

            “Kerry is wealthy in his own right, and is the beneficiary of at least four trusts inherited from Forbes family relatives”

            BUSTED!

            2) “Kerry’s parents themselves were upper-middle class, and a wealthy great aunt paid for him to attend elite boarding schools.”

            I bet you will argue next that attending boarding schools is a sign of white privilege (or silver spoonerism) for anyone but a Democrap politician.

            “Secretary of State John Kerry and his wife Teresa Heinz have invested millions of U.S. dollars through family trusts in at least 11 offshore tax havens, according to an analysis by The Daily Caller News Foundation.

            The revelation comes on the heels of the release of the Panama Papers, a treasure trove of 11.5 million legal and financial records documenting how some of the world’s richest and most powerful people have used offshore bank accounts to conceal their wealth and avoid taxes.”

          • BobSF_94117

            Are you like this in person? How horrible for you. You must have a silver spoon up your ass.

          • “There was wealth in his extended family. Not in his family unit. Not “silver spoon” stuff.’ – ASSERTION

            “Are you like this in person? How horrible for you. You must have a silver spoon up your ass.” – RESPONSE AFTER ASSERTION was PROVED WRONG

            I feel sorry for you. You voted for Kerry, because you though he was one of you and down for the struggle. Instead you find out very late in life (due to you own self imposed ignorance) that he is an aristocrat buying your vote.

          • BobSF_94117

            We were discussing the meaning of the phrase “silver spoon”. Kerry’s wealth as an adult is not relevant to the circumstances of his birth. His father’s family was wealthy, but Kerry grew up on military bases and both his parents later worked, hence my comment about his family unit. At that point, they were upper middle class. His extended family paid for elite boarding schools, long over his infancy was over.

            My response wasn’t after being “proved wrong”. It was after realizing you’re impossible to discuss anything with.

          • He went to exclusive prep school.

            There is a rank system in the military. It was more prevalent and more rigid when he was growing up. It is more egalitarian now.

            Knowing that you you are going to come into money for certain changes things such as spending habits.

          • unclemike

            “…vainly trying to stay relevant”? Are you fucking kidding me with this bilious bullshit?

            You know it’s his fucking job, right? That whole Secretary of State thing, right? It’s what he’s sworn to do?

            Sit the fuck down with the other shit-slinging howler monkeys in the peanut gallery, and let the goddamn adults deal with the real world.

            And, as if it fucking matters, Kerry is worth from 200m to 300m, depending on how you slice it. His wife’s funds are not his, because they signed a prenup. So fuck you, you fucking fuck twunt.

      • TuuxKabin

        You’re such an asshole.

        • Si I am an asshole for pointing out the fact John Kerry was worth billions when he ran (& still is) for president.

          Boy, are you thin skinned, snowflake.

          • TrollopeReader

            you sound like Howie Carr, who is one of the biggest assholes in New England.

          • You go around measuring people’s assholes?

      • aar9n

        OFF is the direction we would like you to fuck

        • So Mr Billionaire played “I am mega-rich lefty, who care for the people, and you sucked it up like the Kool aide drinker you are.

          • aar9n

            Hey DingleBerry McDusche, you were already fact checked and found lacking.

            Time for you to self fuck off.

          • So Kerry does not have several mansion to choose from?

            He is married in name only (MINO)?

          • aar9n

            For being a gun touted Patriot (read closeted self loathing homocon), your grasp of the English language is quite amazing.

            Directions for fucking yourself:
            Take keyboard
            Shove it up your ass

          • aar9n

            http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/homes.asp

            Jesus fucking Christ, I don’t think you even know what a prenup is. Isn’t it past your bedtime?

          • I know what a prenup is.

            It remains that Kerry is living the lifestyle of a billionaire.

          • aar9n

            Dear self loathing homocon,

            It is past your bedtime.
            You have to get sleepy sleep so you can go to church tomorrow and learn how Jesus rode on dinosaurs when he wrote the Constitution.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0ed5ecc1ad7015a674c19b1eb9633a2b9415db3f2783816ffa2420006a2d1819.jpg

          • G-d created the big bang.

            I know I won’t see you in abstract Algebra class tomorrow or any other higher match class.

          • vorpal

            Is the fucking letter “o” on your keyboard broken, or are you just an idiotic tool?

            And before you begin to spout off, I have my PhD in math in combinatorial structures, and took a two semester course in graduate level algebra, as well as courses in finite fields and representation theory.

          • Good for you. You have a PhD and I only have a M.S. I was talking about the other guy not you.

            Since you are his Prince Charming, do you want him to grab his ankles for you?

            I bet you are like a jail house lawyer, when it comes to the Bible. You do not know what G-d means?

          • vorpal

            I have my Prince Charming and we’ve been married now for 12 years.

            I’ve read a good chunk of the bible, and was a Christian (but ZOMGGDSds NOT A REEEL ONE) for 22 years. I got better, fortunately.

            Anyone who thinks that his sky deity will throw a shit-fit if he uses the letter o or that it is somehow respectful to not do so is a fucking tool. Your G-d is a goddamned terrorist that lives only in your imaginations. Hilarity.

          • So you just told me that you were not a christian for even a decade.

            G-d does not command me to terrorize you. If you had really read a good chunk of the Bible you would know that he commanded Christians to preach, but to move on if the way was not paved.

            Which means I leave you to your own devices.

          • vorpal

            I haven’t been a Christian in close to 17 years now.
            It was a difficult process to throw off the childhood indoctrination, but ultimately, one of the best decisions I ever made.

            Excellent. Thank you for keeping your religion to yourself, as I’m not interested.

          • I hope this is the end of the hijacking…my hand is tired from scrolling through all the blocked comments

          • Christianity is very different than Islam

            Matthew 10:14
            If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet.

            In Islam you seek people out and convert them, make them pay tax, jizya, or murder them.

            I do not think you paid attention or were not that smart. These are two very different religions.

          • vorpal

            When I said, “Same god, different stupid,” which part of different stupid did you struggle to understand?

          • I reject that it is the same G-d.

            Jesus and Mohammed are not from the same G-d.

          • vorpal

            I’m pretty certain that Mohammed made no claim to be anything other than a conduit for this god.

            Yes, the god you believe in has the triune nature, which makes him slightly distinct, but if you believe your god is the god of Abraham, then your god is also the god of Islam. You just threw Jesus in the mix as the saviour because your god couldn’t get over how badly he built things with his blocks without somehow irrationally raping an underage virgin to impregnate her with himself, only to be murdered and resurrected because somehow, that would help him achieve the attitudinal adjustment that he needed about what a lousy creator he was.

          • These two passages are not from the same religious tradition or the same g-d.

            I am sorry if you are rather dense in the head.

            Matthew 10:14

            If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet.

            Qu’ran 9:29 Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allah, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

          • vorpal

            Yes, selective biblical choosing. Essential to avoid the deafening sound of cognitive dissonance.

            Your god and Allah are the same god as Yahweh, the god of Abraham. You can deny it all you like, but it doesn’t void it from being true. If you trace the lineage back further, this god was known as El, and has a god-wife and god-kids.

          • aar9n

            Wow he’s still going huh

          • vorpal

            But it is all irrelevant, as it’s entirely fairy tales, so you can alter them however you like, just as cultures have various forms of Santa and they can all co-exist because they are all absurd nonsense.

          • Matthew 10:14 and Qu’ran 9:29 are two totally different ways of treating people who do not think like you.

          • vorpal

            Oh, ABSOLUTELY. I don’t deny that for a second.
            The bible is also CHOCK FULL of other commandments as to how to treat people who do not think like you.

            (My experience with the Qu’ran is much more limited, as after reading most of the bible and part of the Book of Mormon, my stupidity threshold for the next 30 years was reached.)

            Your preferred selection of passages out of thousands while ignoring many more does not indicate a true differentiation in the religions: it just indicates that your book is hokey self-contradictory nonsense.

          • CKKimber

            Your decision to use the Bible as a passive-aggressive cudgel won’t serve you well when you have to explain yourself.

          • When your usual rainbow suspects proclaim all religion equal and that Christianity is just as bad as Islam, you will get pushback.

            If you were smart, which you most definitely are not, you would stop worrying about the Christians and worry about Leftist government. They are tracking every gay person now. See the EPA.

          • When I see “G-d” used I imagine a very confused and somewhat dimwitted deity looking at that and thinking “…what the fuck could that missing letter be?”

      • Traxley Launderette

        • So you have nothing.

          • Traxley Launderette

            For you, of course not.

            I have better uses for my time.

            Enjoy your evening alone.

          • Me, I save lives. You, you take lives.

          • vorpal

            LOL!

          • I make sure protective equipment works.

            The other guy spreads, who knows what.

          • vorpal

            Probably love and joy, whereas you spread fear and contempt.
            Good luck with that!

          • So Assad drops barrel bombs and I help build stuff that counters it. That is spreading fear?

            The other guy is gay and gays, who are 3% of the pop., are like 46% or so of the new HIV cases every year.

          • vorpal

            Yes, we are well aware that HIV is an issue amongst gay men. Your assumption that one of our members spreads “who knows what” is simply homophobic nonsense. (This gay guy =points to self=, like most gay guys, has had zero STIs and spread zero STIs.)

            Over 60% of Americans are obese, and obesity has far more devastating health consequences and reduces life expectancy more dramatically than controlled HIV.

            Maybe you should go to your RWNJ message sites and demonize the “American lifestyle.” You might find it effective to visit supermarkets and screech Christrionically at anyone who dares venture near the junk food aisle.

          • Yes, gays and intravaneous drug users have HIV controlled.

            Controlled must mean controlled growth or increase.

            I like how you are going all Orwellian.

          • vorpal

            Controlled HIV, i.e. well-treated and stable by medication.
            Go back to your tater chips and Bud lite.

          • I have never seen a disease stable through the use of medication over a long period of time.

          • vorpal

            You clearly haven’t been looking very hard, then. There are many diseases that can be kept stable for long periods of time through medication.

          • No I seen diseases that are maintained over time, but the people still gradually deteriorate.

            If you need prednisone for treatment your days are numbered. You might last several years, but forget about a decade.

          • vorpal

            As someone with Crohn’s, I have met plenty of older people who have taken prednisone for decades and while yes, prednisone does have many side effects – some of them quite dangerous – they have maintained a decent quality of life.

            Prednisone is a bad example, though: there are many drugs that are much safer, with far fewer side effects, and that manage chronic / autoimmune diseases quite well.

          • I knew a person with vasulitis. the disease was idiopathic. They also were old and had diabetes so that would complicate things. They lasted 4 or 5 years. It was a constant battle of tweaking the dosage etc.

            I have also heard about steroids being used to treat avian flu / SARs. It worked but at a cost. You have to be very careful with the stuff. The 1st patients cured during the epidemic with steroids ended up in wheel chairs with brittle bones.

            As far as I know AZT worked but not as well as a cocktail of 2 or 3 drugs. using AZT by itself in the early 1990s mean maybe 15 years of life. I also know that if you have too many drugs, they interfere with one another. If you are already on 2 or 3 and then need more for something else, you could very well be screwed.

            It is best to stay out of trouble as long as possible. Having drugs do want the body does is like playing a game of Jenga or KerPlunk. You can win for a while. Best put the day you need drugs as far off as possible. That means good behavior (weight,diet, etc)

          • vorpal

            Hey, I agree with much of what you say here.

            I’m all for better living through chemistry and enjoy chemicals, but not as a regular, daily regime unless absolutely necessary, and the benefit absolutely must outweigh the costs.

            For example, with my Crohn’s, I was on a massive med regime including Remicade, which works very well for many people, but not so much for me. I had surgery and have not required any meds for nearly seven years now.

            Also agree that taking general care of one’s health is absolutely essential if you want to maximize your chances of living a long and healthy life. My weight ballooned after my Crohn’s stopped being an issue, but I lost almost 80 lbs in the last 18 months and exercise daily and eat extremely healthy about 95%+ of the time.

            While there are certainly genetic factors that play into obesity, which is a massive health epidemic in the US, it is also caused by a consistent pattern of poor lifestyle and dietary choices, and can be controlled or prevented by making changes.

            HIV can indeed be a challenge for gay men, and it can be contracted through one or two poor choices, and I suspect you’d be hard-pressed to find anyone who doesn’t make a poor choices at times. The risk of HIV, however, is not going to stop gay men from being gay: we will be gay regardless. It is just up to us to do our best to disseminate education about prevention, and fortunately, better prevention techniques are being discovered, such as PrEP.

          • “I had surgery and have not required any meds for nearly seven years now.”

            Now that is interesting. They took a section out?

            A child of one of my cousin’s kids had ‘Small Bowel and Colonic Intussusception’. I have known for a long time that a very large percentage of white blood cells (~25%?) are in the intestinal area protecting the body from foreign invaders. What I had not known was the rather large mass of lymph tissue that is at the junction of the small and large intestines. It appears if that gets infected, you are in for bad times.

            It was thought that ulcers were cause mostly or solely by stress. Then it was found that H. Pylori cause many of them. Got to wonder what they find out about genetics, environment and pathogens when it comes to Crohns or Colonic Intussusception.

            So they took a portion out and the problem was localized and had not spread?

            ” you’d be hard-pressed to find anyone who doesn’t make a poor choices at times.”

            That is true. But it depends on the number of times you tempt fate or what you attempt.

            Education is important, but it is up to us to be good stewards of everything we own, have or are responsible for.

          • vorpal

            In this regard, we are largely in agreement. I will admit that it is nice to find common ground with someone whose views I probably couldn’t be more in opposition with on the whole, so I do appreciate the conversation.

            Yes, I had two sections of intestine removed: a total of a metre, or 3.3 feet. There were blockages that were so tight that food could barely pass through, which was why I required massive doses of hydromorphone for years (now off all opioids).

            It is suspected that there is a form of paratuberculosis to which people with IBD are susceptible to infection. See Johne’s Disease in livestock, which is strikingly similar. It is extremely difficult to treat. My terminal ileum has been removed, which is the junction of which you speak, and hence I require iron and B12 supplementation since that is the primary region of absorption.

            The problem is now controlled well, but I don’t want to go into too many specifics in a public forum. If you are genuinely curious, I am largely an open book to individuals (I just prefer not to broadcast), so feel free to contact me at vorpal20 at hotmail dot com and I will happily and politely share anything you wish to know. (I get a bit impolite about religion, as you have noticed, but your stance, despite my objections, has not been forceful, and I appreciate that.)

            Agree regarding your last two paragraphs completely. There is a factor of luck, though: for some of us, we can make 20 bad decisions and be fine. For others, one bad decision comes with incredible consequences.

            I have made mostly good decisions, I think, in my life, but a couple bad ones. Fortunately, they have not come with consequences, and I do my best for the most part to learn from them and not repeat them.

          • ” I will admit that it is nice to find common ground with someone whose views ”

            The #1 topic people like to talk about is health. < From "How to Win Friends and Influence People"

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ileum
            http://www.innerbody.com/image_dige03/dige10.html

            "See Johne's Disease in livestock, which is strikingly similar. It is extremely difficult to treat. My terminal ileum has been removed, which is the junction of which you speak, and hence I require iron and B12 supplementation since that is the primary region of absorption."

            Now I be learning something. (Not proper grammar perhaps, but I wanted to say it that way.)

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paratuberculosis

            Unfortunately, I have not spent enough time on the farm. My father was 1/2 town and 1/2 country. So I have missed out on some things like comparative medicine. I have not been around a lot of vet talk.

            "I get a bit impolite about religion, as you have noticed, but your stance, despite my objections, has not been forceful,"

            Matthew 10:14 works well. At some point someone proselyzing has to give up and just tend to their own. If not they are overstepping their bounds. It does not mean they cannot come back and try again, but they have to be good about it. I specifically remember the pastor talking about Mathew 10:14 circa 2004.

          • Obesity is a function of public safety, agency, opportunity, and job.

          • CatApostrophe

            CHISTRIONICALLY! Can I borrow that? It’s amazing.

          • vorpal

            Please do :-).

          • CKKimber

            You’ve thought more about gay sex in this one comments section than most gay men do in a month. You know that there’s a study which reveals that people like yourself become aroused by thinking about how much you hate gay men? It’s quite an illuminating read.

          • My 1st comment on this comment stream was refuting the idea that Kerry had done anything good with his fake ceasefire.

            Apparently, people here did not like me disparaging a Leftist icon.

            So if you can see sex in that then you are deranged.

  • RNegron

    That is just not fair at all. Another yuuuge diplomatic victory for Obama with only months to go. The retugs just can’t catch a break.
    hehe

  • Talisman

    But Trump said Kerry was a disaster, like Obama and Clinton.

    He didn’t lie, did he?

  • Nick in Pasadena

    That’s nice, but I’m sure Secretary of State Sarah Palin will do just as well.

  • GanymedeRenard

    OT (but good news from the Caribbean!)/ Aruba’s Parliament approved this afternoon civil unions for same-sex couples: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-3782236/Aruba-allow-LGBT-couples-register-unions-island.html

    • TrollopeReader

      I am waving my little Aruba flag !

      (whenever I go to a new country, even on a cruise, i try to find a little flag. if i can’t get my passport stamped, i want a memento, dammit ! )

      • Tor

        Note to San Franciscans: You can get almost any nation’s small flag at Cliff’s Variety on Castro. I was there a couple days ago when a woman gleefully found the flag of Liberia.

        TR: I realize it is much more fun to get the flags in the actual countries….

        • TuuxKabin

          What a smile you put on my face, to find out Cliff’s is still there! Same location?

          • Bryan

            Yup!

          • Tor

            They are celebrating their 80th anniversary this year. Still owned by the original family. At same location since early 70’s, but they’ve always been on Castro. My BF has worked there for 30 years….
            I just found out that the current building was the original Castro Theater, built in 1910.

          • TuuxKabin

            Love it! You live in the Castro? I used to live on Upper Market, where the 33 swings in and out onto Market.

          • Tor

            No, I’m in the Mission, near the terminus of the 33. Very handy for getting to and from the Castro.

          • TuuxKabin

            Used to catch it in the Haight to get over to the Castro. Always a worth while ride, the view and all that quiet climbing. Those electric buses are the best.

      • coram nobis

        I’ve got a 2×3 Dutch flag, will that do?

  • William

    Any plan that doesn’t include Assad hanging from a lamppost is pointless.

    • TuuxKabin

      I couldn’t agree more. At least brought to The Hague for a crimes against humanity trial. Then a decent hanging.

    • safari

      …but replace him with who?

      • pj

        an elected government

        • Mihangel apYrs

          Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya . . .

          I’m sorry but regime change in the ME doesn’t seem to bring much fo the populations

      • William

        Likely one of his generals who fled in the last few years.

    • ultragreen

      Assad isn’t the problem. ISIS and Al Qaeda are FAR worse.

      • William

        The instability caused by Assad’s war on his own citizens has allowed Al Qaeda and IS to take over parts of Syria. If the people had felt safe and secure under his leadership, outside forces would not have gained such a foothold.

    • pj

      thats where they should start

  • Henry Auvil

    The barking wig stand is no doubt busy preparing his response, spittle forming around his KFC-slicked mouth hole, his tiny fingers twitching as they prepare to unleash the torrent of twitter poo…

  • Lane

    Sure, this is great, but it’s not really _gay_ enough. Could someone please gay this up for me?

    • TrollopeReader

      after a day of nekked board-surfing off the Gaza coast, foreign ministers kerry and lavrov ate grapes and drank wine, and lazily signed a peace agreement, consumating a torrid three year relationship with deep, visceral friendship.

      • Lane

        THANK you!

        • TrollopeReader

          πŸ™‚

    • coram nobis

      Johnny and Sergei, after a day in a Tuscan villa negotiating fin-de-siΓ¨cle statecraft and rumpling the sheets, announced a marriage of the Romanov and Clinton dynasties, averting the Great War and providing the screenplay for the Merchant/Ivory production of “A Closet with a View”.

  • Henry Auvil

    And as of 7:48 EST, there’s still nothing about this over at NYTimes. Once again, Joe, Ace Reporter, manages to scoop the Gray Old Hag.

    • TuuxKabin

      That’s our Joe! Thanks Joe! Wish I could click on the “Recommended” tab more than once.

  • bob

    I suspect the orange monster will complain how this is a bad deal .

  • Rebecca Gardner

    Has Der Drumpfenfuhrer taken credit for this yet?

  • moebym

    The smallest possibility of a State Dept. under Trump – one that would dismantle all the progress we’d made in foreign policy under Obama – makes me almost sick.

    • Friday

      Hey, Trump’s got *Mexico* wanting to start demanding territory after just one *campaign* junket, imagine what he can do to piss Canada and Switzerland off. I’m pretty sure there’s someone in Bhutan he hasn’t gone out of his way to piss off just trying to run for office. πŸ™‚

      • Talisman

        Can we give them Texas?

        • Friday

          That keeps coming up, but that’s not what they’re asking for. I think they’re afraid we’ll say ‘Yes.’

  • ultragreen

    About time the U.S. government came to its senses regarding Syria.

    • Friday

      That’s the spin you’re going with on this?

      • ultragreen

        Yes. Our government was foolishly attempting to undermine Assad’s government, allowing ISIS to overrun one-half of the country, until the Russians stopped it.

        • Friday

          OK, you lose your imaginary Green party credentials if you actually want to call *Assad and Putin* the good guys here.

  • Mike in Texas

    I had to stop and think about how long it has been since we’ve had some hopeful news about the Middle East.

  • ceeenbee

    Do you think it’s because puddin’ and asshat were afraid of what the donald would do to them if elected?

    Apparently, just the thought sends shudders of fear through despots. I’ll bet that little weasel from North Korea is going to fold up like an origami swan next.

  • Lazycrockett
    • TrollopeReader

      ok, ummm …when was the *last* time Brit Hume smiled? 1987??

      • Bruno

        His face, like his personality, is made of granite.

        • TrollopeReader

          even us crusty New Englanders can break a smile through the granite face !!

          • Friday

            (Frankly, back on topic, notice this is Kerry who they didn’t think was qualified to be President for… not being personable enough and too smart, as they insisted constantly while ignoring Swiftboat liars who brought us to…. Trump running and they’re trying to make that seem like a contest. )

          • Bruno

            Except the Old Man of the Mountains. When he tried that, he crumbled into pieces ;(

          • TrollopeReader

            i know ….

          • Oscarlating Wildely

            Yes– and that was after he had ended up on the NH quarter. An icon, nothing but gravel and pavers now.

          • Bruno

            I stayed in a hotel near it a couple times when I was younger. It’s such a lovely state. I hate that it has so many Rethuglicans, but they do seem to be of a more sane variety when it comes down to it. Most of them.

      • Hume’s face began atrophying the day Reagan left office, and has been collapsing under the force of gravity like a slow-motion avalanche for decades.

    • moebym

      We all know what the answer is, but the question still needs to be asked: Why the hell does it even matter whether she smiles or not?

    • Friday

      *scrolling ASCII…. SHOULD MAJOR NETWORKS ASK DUMB LEADING QUESTIONS ABOUT SUPERFICIALITIES?….*

    • coram nobis

      What the Dick Cheney?

  • billbear1961
    • TuuxKabin

      You’re back at last! Great news to post music to. Thank you BB!

      • billbear1961

        I’ve momentarily emerged from a state of perpetual terror, sweetheart.

        • TuuxKabin

          Me too. It’s been an utter horror, but today has had quite a few hopeful developments. xo

          • billbear1961

            If a candidate for the PRESIDENCY can’t face tough questions to proof he’s up to the job, he shouldn’t be running for the position in the FIRST PLACE.

            The media are covering for him, because they KNOW that if grilled, he’d FALL APART.

            They are helping him as best they can to HIDE his appalling ignorance from the American people while they continue to SLANDER Clinton.

            Some of them ADMIT they are grading him on a curve, which, whether they realize it or not, is an ADMISSION he’s not FIT to be POTUS. It’s NOT a job for IGNORANT beginners or for fascist HATEMONGERS (another failing on the MSM’s part, their granting of “legitimacy” to hate speech in a diverse, modern democracy, their treating it as NORMAL, when it is anything BUT normal or acceptable).

            The MSM’s credibility–what was left of it–is GONE.

            They are FAILING in their job to INFORM the electorate, to make it possible for voters to judge BOTH candidates on their suitability by showing us EVERYTHING we MUST know–have a RIGHT to know–about BOTH to make an informed decision.

            They slander and abuse Clinton while giving Trump a pass, again and again, on matters that would END the campaign of ANYONE running for high office in a modern GENUINE democracy.

          • billbear1961

            XO

        • Friday

          *sending inflatable ice floes.* Who could blame you. πŸ™‚

        • barrixines

          I was just about to send someone in.

          • billbear1961

            If we cannot force the MSM to do their JOBS–shame them into doing their JOBS–to question him as he MUST be questioned, to hold him accountable as he MUST be held accountable, I’m really afraid we’re going to lose.

          • coram nobis

            Welcome back, billbear!

          • TuuxKabin

            A riot! Love the one with the pocket book!

          • TuuxKabin

            Edit: Sara is now singing ‘Quizas’ . . . I think we’re going to tango for a bit. Thanks for the tip. El hubby, fresh Irish boy from the Bronx says “definitely drag queen material”. Do you know the movie “Danzon”, Mexican director, Maria Novaro?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnKfqwJiPy4

          • barrixines

            No – but I have found it on Youtube and will watch when I get back to BCN.

          • TuuxKabin

            Hopefully not the English dubbed version. We went to Vera Cruz after seeing it on the silver screen, a couple of years later. As we walked up to ‘el trianglito’ the lady behind the bar saw us coming and ‘rolled’ her eyes, as if to say, ‘ay otra mas’. The building was all cleaned up as a huge ‘Sol’ cerveza advertisement. We sat at the bar and she asked us, “bueno?” As if to say, “what do you want to know about the movie?” Muy simpatico.

          • Treant

            The penguin. Nature’s assholes.

          • barrixines

            That is seriously harsh.

          • Treant

            Crashin’ cymbals right by a poor bear’s ears. Now that’s harsh.

    • TrollopeReader

      BB and TK !! what a nice way to finish a Friday ! Ice cubes all around !

      • TuuxKabin

        Thank you TR, it’s been good to get back in the thread/fold. Mind if I chew my ice cubes? Get’s on some peoples’ nerves, but I find it so gratifying.

        • TrollopeReader

          chomp away !!

      • billbear1961
        • Mihangel apYrs

          love Trollope, the books have allusions that stretch me slightly, but it’s interesting to read a male author of that period who seemed something of a feminist.

  • bkmn

    I hope this works out. Having said that I don’t trust Putin or his lapdog Lab-Rat.

  • fuzzybits

    Please make it happen. These poor people need this chaos to end!

    • DaddyRay

      I cannot fathom living every day in fear. The US only had one day on 9/11, every day is 9/11 for them

      • billbear1961

        We WILL live in fear, every day, we will and so will the WORLD, if Trump and his supporters come to power.

    • Friday

      A ceasefire’s kind of just one phase of what needs to be made to happen to make it end. If Assad stops attacking everyone in sight with Russian support, and a lot of the non-IS resistance honors the ceasefire, everyone can regroup and hopefully next stage ISIL and Al Qaeda and those types can get their butts kicked out of these people’s homes, or the present incarnation.

      This is kind of about getting Russia to curb Assad and (hopefully by offering him whatever the dictator retirement plan is these days) get the damn radicals out of action and start rebuilding something more like civilization already. But that’s next-phase *if* the ceasefire holds sufficiently. IS and those types will probably try to make it not hold so well but we’re the ones with the satellites and drones.

  • pj

    they better cut a deal before the election. who knows what crazy president trump would do.

    • Talisman

      He’ll rip it up, off course.

      Along with ever other treaty.

      • pj

        no he will nuke them. you know its there. why not use it.

        • Talisman

          And sell the glass?

          • Friday

            He’d insist they’d pay for the glass. And the fallout cleanup. And of course everything else he’d fuck up. He took a campaign junket to *Mexico* and they’re actually asking for most of the Southwest back. πŸ™‚

  • That_Looks_Delicious

    I’m already imagining the orange one’s tweets. Sad.

  • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

    I guess Russia got tired of boycotting food imports.

  • Charles Manuel P.

    This one too will fail, as did the last one summer of last year. There is only one resolution to the SCW, and it is to come on the battlefield, not Geneva.

    • William

      You’re probably correct.

  • dcurlee

    Wondering how long before Trump takes credit

    • bob

      Many of his misguided supporters are already giving him credit .

  • Todd

    Has Trump tweeted yet to claim it was all his idea to work with Russia and to thank everyone for their ‘Congratulations’ ??

  • aar9n

    Imagine, if you will, that you are in an alternate universe where president McCain ends his 8 years of presidency with the following credentials:

    Recovering from a recession caused by the democrats
    Ending a war started by democrats
    Presiding during a landmark civil rights court case
    Presiding over the strike that killed bin laden
    Ending the fighting in Syria and defeating ISIS.
    Recovering our POWs
    Lowering our deficit

    Fox news would worship him as a God, and the GOP would probably be rewriting the rules to allow a third term for Saint McCain I.

    But, because the above was accomplished by a BLACK man…

  • Traxley Launderette

    This could be wonderful.

  • Six Pins Delores

    Ahhh! Good ole John Ketchupmiester Kerry

  • Sam_Handwich
    • William

      Putin could be a garden gnome on the White House lawn.

  • JCF

    I absolutely HOPE this works.

    And I absolutely don’t trust Putin (or Assad).

  • andrew

    John Kerry is an awesome man and I hope this agreement holds. Obama, Clinton and Kerry are all national treasures.

  • DutchBoy74

    This is welcome news. I hope it works.

  • Ahahahaha!
    Take THAT Donnie Drumpf!

  • rabbit_ears

    Good luck with that.

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  • Mikey

    Will you look at that!
    Some sort of diplomatic arrangement has been worked out, and it didn’t require anyone to get down on their knees in front of Vladimir Putin.
    Donald Trump could maybe learn a lesson or two from this.

  • Dave

    This will really piss the Republicans off and shit right in their nest. Of course they will immediately bash any plan as unworkable before even knowing what it is.

  • Gerry Fisher

    Is it just me, or is John Kerry quietly doing one of the best jobs ever as Secretary of State? Man, he inherited a messy world to help manage.

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