Eagle Forum: It’s Not Racist To Hate Mexicans

The St. Louis Dispatch reports:

Ed Martin, who ran for Missouri attorney general four years ago and now is the chief spokesman and ally to conservative icon Phyllis Schlafly, said at a Tea Party rally in the St. Louis area Sunday: “You’re not racist if you don’t like Mexicans. They’re from a nation. If you don’t think Muslims are vetted enough, because they blow things up, that’s not racist.”

Schlafly and Martin — who also is a former Missouri state Republican Party chairman — have been on the same side of a legal fight against board members of Schlafly’s conservative activist organization Eagle Forum, over issues that have included Schlafly’s support of GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump, who is opposed by some board members.

Trump has in the past called for stricter policies toward Mexican and Muslim immigration, though his policy stances recently have been in flux. He has scheduled a speech on the issue Wednesday. Ghazala Hayat, chair of public relations for the Islamic Foundation of Greater St. Louis, called Martin’s comments “bigotry.”

(Tipped by JMG reader Darren)

  • Butch

    So by your logic it’s OK if I call you a complete idiot because you’re apparently from Neptune?

    • Ross

      Apparently?

      • Butch

        I was being nice.

        • Ross

          Nice is good!

  • Michael Smith

    I doubt the average Eagle Forum member knows the difference between Honduras and Mexico. They don’t hate Mexicans. They hate brown people.

    • No, they hate anyone who isn’t a white, heterosexual, actively-breeding christian. You know, a DOMINIONIST.

      • Jeffrey in St. Louis

        And they hate each other.

        • I wonder how long it would take if they got their way — got rid of all the liberals, gays, people of colour, anyone that’s not them — before they turn on each other. Their “utopia” would be a smoking ruin with everyone huddled in their compounds, pointing guns outwards.

          • Uncle Mark

            Exactly !! If they got their dream of a “Christian” nation, you would watch the next war over which version of Christianity would rule “God’s country.” Let’s not forget that the Baptists & Evangelicals don’t even acknowledge Catholics or Mormons as even being Christian. One could only imagine the fate of the Unitarians.

          • JCF

            Sort of a “Peoples Front of Christendom” vs a “Christianist Peoples Front” kinda thing. ;-/

          • Nightflyer

            Well, eventually thy would start shooting each other, particularly when their utopia fell apart for all kinds of reasons, and they would accuse each other of treason and giving aid and comfort to the enemy. It would be like Stalin at his worst.

    • kaydenpat

      Strange to hear Christians say out loud they there’s nothing wrong with hating people because they come from a particular country or are of a specific faith. So Christ-like.

      • Oikos

        Feel the love!

      • Soren456

        Jesus would be so embarrassed.

        • Frostbite

          jesus would have been shot dead for being a long haired socialist who believes in loving thy fellow man, healing the sick and feeding the poor. these idiots had better hope their god doesn’t exist or it will be very angry with them.

          • fuzzybits

            Makes me think of,”and the sign said long haired freaky people need not apply.”

          • Hank

            Sign, Sign, Everywhere a Sign – Watch the Video clips!! lol
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D59ZWa8ehgI

          • fuzzybits

            lol,funny.

        • “Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
’ And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”

      • Nightflyer

        That’s not what I was taught as a young child. I was taught the gospel of unconditional love, the Greek word is “agape.”

  • Ben in Oakland

    “I don’t like a whole group of people which I have defined by a particular characteristic.”
    Nope/. Nothing racist about that.

  • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

    I fucking despise trump for the way he has scapegoated some of the poorest most marginalized people in our country. I know the repugs have been doing this for a while, but trump has issued in a new era of open white supremacy. And it’s eye opening and saddening how many white people hate people like me.

    • Todd20036

      It’s not just Latinos. They hate anyone who is not white, not cis-gendered, not straight, not Christian, not close-minded, not ignorant, not uneducated,…

      You get the idea.

      It’s basically Nazism.

      If the Nazis were morbidly obese.

      • skyweaver

        Thanks for the laugh on that last line!

      • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

        I never said it was. But this article is about Mexicans and Muslums. And this are the two groups he has attacked most viciously. And tomorrow he will give a hate-filled speech about “building a great wall” and “build the wall!!!” has been the rallying cry spittled out by his racist rabid fans. Please do not minimize that the orange asshole has in particular stirred up anti Mexican and anti Muslum sentiment in this country,

        • Todd20036

          I know. People don’t call Trump a fascist for nothing. And he helped give rise to these openly racist groups by making it “ok” to be racist.

          I find it further demeaning that being anti Mexican isn’t “racist”, when, as you say, these idiots aren’t going to know a Mexican from a Venezuelan from a Cuban.

          It’s just all these Central or South Americans aren’t white.

          And that’s all that is important.

          And yes, as far as Trump is concerned, the “worst” minorities are Muslims for being terrorists, and Mexicans for being illegal immigrants.

          I do see the ignorance and hatred in that one sentence.

          • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

            And they’re violent criminals according to trump – remember he opened his campaign with the Mexicans are rapists loveliness

          • Jerry

            That’s why it’s very important to make sure everyone is registered and votes this year…especially from any of the categories of people that Trump regularly demeans. The last laugh would be if AZ, GA, NC and even TX flipped to Democrats this election.

      • Oikos

        Your last two sentences-FTW

      • David Walker

        I don’t watch much television, but “Major Crimes” on TNT is one I do NOT miss. Last week and this week they dealt with neo-nazis and both episodes were absolutely chilling. I can’t recommend them highly enough. However, if you have only one hour instead of two, watch this week’s episode. Hint: It gives some reasons why a 10-year-old professes his hatred for “Mexicans.” In fact, I’m not altogether sure that last night’s episode was the conclusion to that arc. A few tantalizing loose ends remain dangling.

      • Shy Guy

        Some Nazis were pretty rotund. Hermann Göring on the right:

    • fuzzybits

      ❤😙♥

  • Rex

    If it isn’t racist then it’s hateful.
    And you can’t deny these people are filled with hatred.
    If anyone doesn’t look like them, act like them, or believe like them, they hate them.

  • ByronK

    I don’t like members of the clergy because they’re all child molesters. I don’t like Republicans because they’re all ignorant racist misogynists. Hey, this is fun!!

    • DaveW

      They may not all be child molesters but they do lie for their grift. They choose to brainwash for a living, so hating clergy is very different than hating a group due to a shared characteristic

    • kaydenpat

      You’re probably not too far off about Republicans given who their Presidential Candidate is this year.

  • safari

    It’s almost like a presidential candidate has given them permission to say what they’ve always been thinking.

    • kaydenpat

      Scary.

  • Crow on a Top Hat

    Well yeah, it isn’t technically racist since Mexicans are pretty diverse. Some are *gasp* white. It is still xenophobia though.

  • Gustav2

    Remember in 2010 the TV talking heads were trying to convince us the Tea Party was really just “Libertarians” not racist assholes?

  • Cuberly

    “They’re from a nation.”

    Here ya go Ed. Here’s your nation, mixed in there a bit, borders probably redrawn some, but hey. Start packing.

    http://www.thetravelempire.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Europe_pol981.jpg

    • kaydenpat

      Welp!

  • Oikos
    • Rex

      She prettied herself up for this pic, nice.

    • bkmn

      She’s looking good…for Phyllis.

    • delk

      Way too moist.

    • safari

      Has she gotten work done?

      • Oikos

        Trump’s GE did the surgery.

        • Soren456

          While the limo waited outside.

    • kaydenpat

      Dang it! I’m eating. Trigger warning, please.

    • PickyPecker

      She’s never looked lovlier. Can we all chip in and maybe get someone to wire her jaw shut?

      • djcoastermark

        Gladly chip in but who is going to be brave enough to tackle the job ?

        • Christopher

          I read that as “spackle the job”.

      • Christopher

        I’ll bring the super glue for her lips, nostrils and eyes!

    • swimboy

      Oh looky! Somebody got her hair did!

    • pj

      in 3 …..2……..1…..

  • Mark Neé Fuzz

    He’s arguing semantics and missing the real point. Even if it’s not racism, it’s still bigotry. And he’s an asshole.

  • bkmn

    ..

  • Todd

    Actually … It …oh, never mind

  • safari

    Major O/T: Chris Brown is apparently in a standoff with the police
    https://www.tmz.com/2016/08/30/chris-brown-weapons-drugs-seized-gun-assault/

    • Treant

      Black, but famous, and in California, so he’ll probably survive.

      • Bruno

        He might even be acquitted here. But I wouldn’t bet on it if I were him.

    • kaydenpat

      Something ain’t right with that guy.

    • djcoastermark

      Ok, the article was disturbing but the comments, Jeez O Pete are they ever disgusting.

  • SunsetGay

    Uneducated White America truly is losing it’s collective shit. They’re not even hiding their true racist beliefs anymore. I fear the open racism, open anti-Semitism, open xenophobia, and open sexism is a sign of what is to come after Clinton is sworn in as the 45th President.

    Janet Napolitano warned us in 2009 that the Extremist Right was a growing national security problem and nobody listened.

    • Gustav2

      There are more of us than them.

    • Bruno

      Not coincidentally, the Extremist Right lost their shit when Bill Clinton was president, too (see: OKC bombing). Let’s just say they don’t handle a perceived disempowerment very well.

      • Gustav2

        Let’s just say the don’t handle equality for others very well.

        • Bruno

          Or a not white, straight, Xtian, line-toeing, male racist in power.

          • safari

            Only a particular kind of Xtian. Catholics aren’t real to them, remember.

      • Jerry

        That was the first real rise of the militia groups–there were always a few of the nutcases, but it wasn’t popular–until Clinton was elected. It was then that the gun manufacturers took over the NRA and started catering to the paranoid fantasies, because it sold more guns.

    • kaydenpat

      What’s scary is that their demographic is decreasing which will cause them to become more delusional and dangerous.

      • edrex

        But also weak and easy to tag.

      • Frostbite

        decreasing? not if the duggar brood have anything to say about that!

    • The people you see at Trump rallies have not been hiding their racism. I’m 50 and I have heard the same people say the same racist shit for as long as I can remember. What we had in the past though were leaders who could sugar-coat this to not scare off the white suburban educated white people who want tax cuts but don’t like this shit (for one thing it’s embarrassing to be associated with any of that). But now that leadership has left or been rejected and this is all that’s left. The layer of veneer they used to keep on top of this shit is gone and now everyone can see what it always was. Shocked? Lucky you because I am not. I’m mostly surprised that it took this long.

  • Butch

    I’d like to throw this in because I just found this quote and it fits:
    [Mark] Twain also said, “The trouble ain’t that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain’t distributed right.”

    • Helen Damnation ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      Ha. I used that in a meme. Sorry for the man in the image, we’ve seen him way too many times already.

  • safari

    I’m waiting for Eagle Forum to just move back to its roots and start once more spewing anti-Catholic views and hating on the Irish just to get back to basics.

  • another_steve

    Please let Stevie explain it to you.

    There’s a non-white man in the White House. “Mexican” = non-white. “Mexican” = equivalent of President Obama. Hate President Obama. Hate the black man in the White House. Hate all the non-whites.

    There.

    You’re welcome. 😉

  • Excuse me…

  • ByronK
    • PickyPecker

      THAT didn’t take long. Good. Call them out for what they are.

  • JustSayin’

    Stricter policies toward Mexian and Muslim immigration? Really thats what you call his bigotry?

  • The last really major things I remember “blowing up” in America were due to (1) a bunch of religious fanatics from Saudi Arabia, (2) a couple of asshole white Christian American dudes in Oklahoma who thought they’d start a war, and (3) several other asshole white Christian dudes who bombed Atlanta and abortion clinics and African American churches.

    Common element isn’t their race or even their national origin. It’s nearly always the religious fanaticism (but also racism, often). Which includes Christians, clearly. So, where are the plans to ‘vet’ those people, because they vastly outnumber all other religions in the U.S.?

    In any case, bigotry motivated by xenophobia and hatred of ‘other’ is just as despicable as that motivated by racism.

  • MB

    O/T: Major fuckweasel Martin Shkreli scores $2.7 million payday; sold total stake in KaloBios
    – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –
    Martin Shkreli, the controversial ex-drug executive now facing federal criminal charges, nearly doubled his investment in KaloBios, the drug company he briefly controlled and ran last fall.

    Shkreli started buying shares of KaloBios last November when it was a penny stock, about a month before he was arrested. At the time, the company was in bad shape, winding down operations and liquidating its assets.

    Shkreli paid just over $3.2 million for a controlling stake in the company, according to an SEC filing last fall.

    The company announced on Monday that Shkreli sold his entire stake in the company a private transaction. He received $3.10 a share, according to a filing, which comes to a total of $5.9 million. That means he made a $2.7 million profit on his initial investment. Shkreli could not be reached for comment.

    • doninkansas

      Can we please institute a 200% asshole tax in this country?

    • The_Wretched

      Can we please tax cap gains as regular income?

    • SoCalGal20

      Why isn’t he in jail and is he ever going on trial?

  • edrex

    Sclhafly and Martin. I LOVED them on “Laugh In.”

    • jmax

      Say goodnight, Dick.

  • Jeffrey in St. Louis

    Ed Martin is a piece of shit wrapped up in a fugly suit.

  • The_Wretched

    Irrational hate is still irrational hate. You’re not better if it’s not ‘racism’.

  • billbear1961

    This is what Trump has unleashed!

    Just keep pretending that Hillary’s recent speech didn’t present incontrovertible PROOF of his links to the racist, bigoted far right, you FRAUDS, you two-faced LIARS, you cynical, evil ENABLERS of FASCISM, who have the GALL to call yourselves JOURNALISTS!!

    You’re a DISGRACE, and you’re helping the far right to drag this nation into the SEWER!!

    • PickyPecker

      Hello, dear Bear. How nice to see you!

      • billbear1961

        Hello, my darling little sweetheart!

        • TrollopeReader

          You two !!! 🙂

          • billbear1961

            He’s a dear, and so are you, TR!

          • TrollopeReader

            *hugs* …. to all my dears !! 🙂

          • billbear1961

            XO

  • 2patricius2

    Okay, then call it xenophobia. Though one might call it both xenophobia and racism, since many Mexicans have at least some native American ancestry.

  • DesertSun59

    As we can tell, the bizarre nationalist hatred that Trump is the leader of isn’t going away. In fact, it’s now waaaaaay out in the open again. Just like it was in the early 20th century. They can’t wait to start a civil war.

  • Jack

    Surprised?

    I just can’t imagine anyone not liking Salma Hayek.

  • Ah, they’re-not-a-race-so-it’s-not-racist racism. Nice.

  • Blake Jordan

    But people will still indirectly help drumpf by voting for johnson or stein…

  • Tempus Fuggit

    Well, I’m certainly glad that’s been whitesplained, because I was wondering.

  • boatboy_srq

    These same people were complaining about Catholics in 1960, Poles in 1930, Slavs in 1910, Italians in 1880, Irish in 1840….. Nope, not “racist” at all.

    /s

  • CottonBlimp

    Keep shouting, dickheads. *We* know that hate is the core of your religion, but some people are thick and need to be reminded.

  • Duh-David

    Sloppy language results from the decline in public education that the radical conservatives fostered. Just because people use “racist” when they mean “bigoted,” doesn’t make hate okay.

  • Tammy Rainey

    well that’s just clinging to the technical application of the word “race” – to be precise we should probably stick with “bigot” right?

    I mean, it’s bias based on ethnicity but ethnicitist is a clumsy word.

  • Hank

    Phyllis Schal…..

  • GanymedeRenard

    The stupid is strong in this one.

    • billbear1961

      And the hate.

      • GanymedeRenard

        Aye.

  • MythicalBeast

    I’ve witnessed anti-Mexican/anti-immigrant racists and xenophobes using this lame argument since at least the mid-1990s when discussing immigration on ye olde USENET. “I’m not a racist because ‘Mexican’ is a nationality, not a race,” typically followed by openly racist references to “mud people” and such. It is entirely possible to oppose illegal immigration without being racist about it, but in my observation, a huge percentage of anti-immigration arguments, at least online, do indeed stoop to racist caricature, invocation of derogatory stereotypes, and bigoted epithets. For what it’s worth, many dictionary definitions do indeed ascribe “racism” to libel and slander against persons of a given nation. Racism … it may be hard to define sometimes, but its stink is obvious when it’s obvious.

    • NancyP

      Ah yes, the joys of USENET…..

      • SoCalGal20

        alt.religion.scientology

  • Jerry Kott

    Have we passed through a Black Hole and I didn’t get the Memo? Everyday, the goal post for madness is move closer to the edge of Reality.

    • billbear1961

      We’re through the looking-glass and in the Dark Zone, Jerry.

      And the MSM, by refusing to call these fascists what they are–by pretending HRC’s recent speech didn’t present PROOF of Trump’s strong connections to these ugly THUGS and his encouragement of them–are aiding and abetting these maniacs as they rip away at the foundations of what is SUPPOSED to be a genuine modern democratic republic.

      • Jerry Kott

        Could not have said it better. Being a Gay Senior, I have gotten use to these nut cases but they are so out of bounds. As far as the MSM goes, I am surprised they haven’t reported that Hillary has Cooties and not drop the story. As long as trump fills their coffers, they could not be happier.

  • That_Looks_Delicious

    All these assholes are starting to inch me toward hating white people and I am one.

  • NancyP

    Our local crazies.
    I am glad that Phyllis had her comeuppance when her lawsuit against Phyllis’ husband’s progressive relative tanked. His business has been around 25 years and is well liked – brewpub, now mini-brewery with regional distribution. Phyllis should not be allowed to ride on the coat-tails of this popular brewery.

  • canoebum

    It’s clear that we are two countries contained within one border. I have nothing in common with these hateful, self-righteous, entitled pricks, and the whole movement they represent. I listen to them talk (if I can stand it, which isn’t ever for very long), read what they’ve said or written, and am more certain everyday they are alien to everything I learned as a child as to what it meant to be an American. Who the fuck are these people?

  • They knew they were saying these things out loud, right?

    I just don’t…I mean…ugh.

    If I were a Republican I’d have thrown myself off the tallest building I could find. This is just…ugh. I don’t have words.

  • anne marie in philly

    another GOP white male h8er. gee, what a surprise – NOT!

  • IamM

    So tired of this kick they’re on about the semantics of the word “racist”. Like ok maybe technically ‘racist’ isn’t the correct term for this form of bigotry here or that one there, but they are still bigotry and that was the point people were trying to make.