Southern Baptist Head Richard Land: If I Didn’t Vote For Donald Trump, I’d Have To Apologize To Jesus

“I believe I have a moral obligation to vote for the lesser evil. Otherwise, I become morally culpable for the greater evil prevailing. Some Evangelicals have said, ‘If I voted for Donald Trump, I would have to apologize to Bill Clinton.’ Frankly, I feel that if I didn’t vote for Donald Trump in order to defeat Hillary Clinton, I would have to apologize to Jesus.

“As I see it, in a worst case scenario, Donald Trump is like being told by your doctor that you have cancer in your left leg and it must be amputated or you will die. You lose your leg, have to have a prosthesis, go through painful rehabilitation, and finally learn to walk again. Hillary Clinton is like being told by your doctor that you have stage four cancer and you are going to die and to get your affairs in order.

“Mr. Trump will in all probability not be a good president, and he will do many things with which I profoundly disagree. However, I fear Hillary Clinton may be a terminal president who will destroy this venerable republic. Consequently, with sadness of heart, I will cast my vote for Donald Trump and pray that God will have mercy on him and on my beloved country.” – Southern Evangelical Seminary president Richard Land, writing for the Christian Post, where he is the executive editor.

  • Lakeview Bob

    White Jesus doesn’t want your apology asshole. He wants you to behave like a caring human being. But your god failed you there.

  • Dramphooey

    You’re voting for the Lesser Evil? But that’s Johnson. Trump is the Greater Evil. And don’t forget Stein, the Hopeless Evil.

    • margaretpoa

      I see Stein as the greater joke.

  • Pollos Hermanos

    “ooooogah boogah, preacher man made a scary statement”.

    • Bill Post

      …but what about black jesus??

      • another_steve

        Black Jesus is cute, but White Jesus is HOT!!!

        • Mark

          I like this one…..

          • Jon

            LOL!! This is amazeballs πŸ˜€

          • geoffalnutt

            Is that like ‘cool beans’? I haz a confusement.

          • another_steve

            My Jewish mama thought I was God. Most Jewish mothers think their sons are God.

            Such a challenge to live up to.

            Such a burden.

          • FancyThat

            I dated a guy one night who told me I had the “body of God.” It was somewhat comforting until I discovered he was Buddhist.

            Such a burden.

          • another_steve

            When dealing with Eastern mystics, the precise language is important.

            If an Eastern mystic tells you you have “the body of God,” well that’s bullshit. Quasimodo also had “the body of God.” But if the mystic tells you you have “the body of a God,” well that’s special.

            You can take that to the bank.

          • FancyThat

            I asked my Eastern mystic buddy if he knew of any god-like entities named Quasimodo. He couldn’t recall offhand, but told me the name rings a bell. πŸ™‚

          • Craig Howell

            Sounds like the old joke about the guy who bragged he had the body of a Greek god: Bacchus.

          • Todd20036

            If he partied like Bacchus, I’d be ok with that.

          • wylekat

            Jim Bacchus?

          • zhera

            …and all of a sudden, the whole Mary, Jesus, God thing makes sense.

            Mary: “Oh Jesus, you are such a wonderful boy. Just devine!”
            Jesus: “Really, Mama? You think I’m devine?
            Mary: ” Yes. You’re God. AND God’s son. Both. That’s how devine you are!”

            I’m reminded of an audition at So You Think You Can Dance. This guy was just bopping around on stage like he had a bee in his pants. The judges told him to stop wasting thier time but then his mother, in the audience, got up and yelled at the judges. Apparently she knew more about dancing than them?

            It was a freak show.

          • carrot festival

            Sing out Louise. Smile baby!

          • Piercedchrlz

            Sparkle, Neely, Sparkle!

          • Steve H.

            I remember his “act” also. All his relitives and friends thought he was so good – and he REALLY sucked at dancing.

          • NancyP

            Sorry, that would be John, the beloved disciple. Brush up on your Bible.

          • olandp

            Freddie Mercury or John… I know who I’d choose. Don’t you think Jesus likes music? (Not that dirge shit they sing in church.)

          • Mark

            Mmmm I don’t do that oogga boogga book.

        • kaydenpat

          Racist! /s

    • Jeffrey

      I LOL’d at that one

    • JT

      Where have those fingers been?

    • Todd20036

      Honestly. A man with multiple marriages, who conned people out of their life savings, is more “godly” than a woman who forgave her cheating husband and donates millions to charities.

      Right. Got it.

      • Paul

        Thank you for putting this more succinctly and eloquently than I could have. I agree completely

      • Just as it was for many racist Republican conservative fundamentalists whose real problem with Obama was he’s black, I remain convinced the main reason they hate Clinton is because she’s a woman.

        • Bruno

          And the main reason they hated Bill Clinton is because he was an electable Democrat after years of convincing themselves those didn’t exist.

          • After McGovern’s and Mondale’s 49 state losses, it was an easy thing to believe.

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          • Skokieguy [Larry]

            If Mary is making over $18K a month, tell her to get her own fucking apartment.

          • Jay Silversmith

            Mary already has a motel room, a crack pipe and some crotchless panties. She’s doing the best she can.

        • Robincho

          And thus does racism yield the floor to misogyny…

        • RickCabral

          She’s also a “power broad,” which they resent and fear insanely.

        • Pat

          I think you’re spot on. And she scares them because she’s smart.

      • Herald

        Not to mention his constant lying, stirring up strife and bigotry, stealing – as in from contractors he does not pay for services rendered, and so much more.

        Land and any “Christian” who votes for Trump just expose their utter hypocrisy and total disregard of everything Jesus taught.

      • DesertSun59

        Yep. Proof that the man is a grifter.

    • Jimmy Joe

      So what’s the big deal? Aren’t we sinners supposed to be constantly apologizing to Jesus anyway?

    • Thorn Spike

      So stealing this (I grew up Southern Baptist.)

  • Sam_Handwich


  • bkmn

    Proof that he was never serious about religion, except to use it to control others.

  • Bluto

    So in other words, this.

    • AtticusP

      Well, that would explain Trump supporters to me. They’re pretty fucking blind in my book!

      • David F.

        Self lobotomies?

        • AtticusP

          Maybe Dr. Ben Carson had a hand in this…

    • JT

      That’s a nice look for xtians. Suits them well.

  • aar9n

    And this guy was head of a UNIVERSITY

    • Sam_Handwich

      yeah, so was Drumpf

      • kaydenpat


    • Oikos


      • AtticusP

        Wink, wink. Nudge, nudge.

    • JT

      Seminary. And Southern Evangelical Seminary at that. Not university. Nothing like a university.

  • TrollopeReader

    Southern Baptists: Bad for America since c 1850 . Bad for Jesus since c. 1850.

    • PeterC

      And Land is an evil person.

      • Statistics Palin

        A porcine homunculus.

        • Gotta remember that one.

        • Robincho

          A fat gay uncle?…

    • Paula

      Was their jeebus even around in 1850?

      • TrollopeReader

        Well, we’re not sure. But even if so, he’d been dead for 1820 years + / – !!


    • I used to be Southern Baptist. I was on the crazier end of the pool in the Calvinist section. Land scares me.

      • JCF

        Dang! I used to be married to a Baptist preacher man (not SBC though).

  • Patrick

    That’s not what he said about a rich man, but since you don’t read the bible I will point it out for you. Matthew 19:24

  • Oikos
  • kirtanloorii

    Not the best sales pitch…

  • AW

    Why? Why is voting for Hillary like getting diagnosed with stage 4 cancer?

    Is it because she’s a woman? Is it because she’s qualified? Has been married for like 45 years to the same man? (even after the affairs) That she has positions that are good for people and not RWNJ’s? WHAT IS IT?! FUCKING EXPLAIN YOURSELF!

    • kaydenpat

      Because she’s a Democrat. Duh!

      • But also because she’s a woman. The two aren’t mutually exclusive.

    • GayOldLady

      Because Women, according to Southern Baptist theology, are subservient to men. He can never vote for a Woman to be Commander-in-Chief/POTUS.

  • GayOldLady

    Richard. The SBC will do what they’ve done for over 100 years, they’ll take the low road and end up asking for forgiveness later. Your Church supported Slavery, Segregation and the KKK. Who gives a shit what the SBC thinks, other than Southern Baptists and not even all of them. Go away sexist, racist, xenophobic, bigot!

    • kaydenpat

      Preach it!

    • Octoberfurst

      Spot on!

    • j.martindale

      You forgot homophobic.

      • GayOldLady

        :-)That falls under the larger umbrella of BIGOT, which includes phobias of LGBT, Latinos, Asians, Muslims and everyone else who isn’t white anglo saxon christian.

        • The_Wretched

          If WASPs weren’t better than everyone else, don’t you think christ wouldn’t have been one?


          • JCF

            You mean he’s not??? {clutch pearls}

  • Oikos

    I’ll bet Jesus was furious when the SBC didn’t preserve slavery.

  • AtticusP

    Fuck off, Richard Land!

    The Jesus card doesn’t work the way it used to.

    • vorpal

      Why should it even matter to fundie-trash who we vote for? Isn’t Jesus going to BRB anyways?

      • another_steve

        More like “BYOB.”

        I mean, what’s with that… the restaurants that advertise BYOB and charge outrageous corkage fees?

        Why hasn’t this become a cause cΓ©lΓ¨bre for progressives?

      • Gerry Fisher

        LUV this

  • Ronald Reagan is Dead!

    Donald Trump as their savior is so hysterical, It just proves their hypocrisy.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    How exactly does one apologize to a non-existent, mythological creature that never existed?

    • Dramphooey

      The same way one asks it for things, I suppose.

    • Neely OHara

      Details, details…

    • Sam_Handwich

      let a Bundt cake do the talking

  • djcoastermark

    To me , this seems to cross the line the tax exempt status of a church. I don’t know how they get away with this. But then, I don’t how so many things are gotten away with and have no repercussions.

    • this won’t make me popular for this, but you know? i get pissed every time i think about that. obama, bill clinton… they both had the opportunity and power to redirect the IRS towards the law-breaking churches. but did they? no. and don’t give me that crap about how that division of the IRS has been gutted (mostly by Chimpy). yes, it was, and yes, democratic presidents have had the power to change that, even without congress.

      i know why they don’t. the question is: do most Democratic voters?

  • Michael Smith

    As someone who has lost many family members to cancer, Go Fuck yourself, Dick.

  • Tigernan Quinn

    “Evil” is certainly something to base your vote on.

  • Neely OHara

    Silly rabbit — Jeebus means never having to say you’re sorry. He just forgives you and you’re good to go out and sin some more…

  • Do Something Nice

    I can fix this: Criminalize religious extremism.

    • all of them are well-armed

      • Bad Tom

        Even better reason to criminalize them.

  • Christian Flanagan

    And then Jesus threw the biggest eye-roll the universe had ever seen.

  • greenmanTN

    Can we quote you on that? “Voting for Trump is like having your leg cut off!”

  • another_steve

    I believe I have a moral obligation not to overcook the jambalaya next time.

    I went online and researched it and everything, but I still fucked it up.

    • David L. Caster

      Too many people just use the wrong heat for too long when cooking things. They are never quite sure if things are done, are afraid something might not be, and can’t quite seem to get the hang of how things actually “cook”. It took me decades to figure this out. Finally, I can cook a boneless, skinless chicken breast that is tender and juicy every time.

      • another_steve

        I suffer from mild to moderate OCD, just enough to prevent me from being one of the great chefs of the world.

        A slight issue with…hmm…knowing when to shut the oven off, if you will.

  • margaretpoa

    Because Trump and Jesus are indistinguishable, other than the fact that one of them is fictional and the other one is orange.
    What a maroon!

  • Lawerence Collins

    Two evils of different proportions, wake up and stay awake

  • Not again.

    Christ: what an asshole.

  • 2amor

    Oh for fucks sake…. I guess you just can’t fix stupid.

  • FAEN

    LMAO-talk about morally bankrupt! Mr Land you have exposed your hypocrisy once again. You speak of family values while you endorse a thrice married, twice divorced, philandering misogynist. And trans Americans using the bathroom is too much for you? Really?

    And when he isn’t philandering he’s usually saying something xenophobic, homophobic, racist or berating the disabled. Family values right?

    Stop talking about Jeebus because trust me he’s in a corner weeping at how you’ve managed to twist his words of love and acceptance into hate and division.

    • kaydenpat

      Amen. The hypocrisy is shocking. Land should just say that he’s voting for Trump because he’s Republican and stop trying to put lipstick on a pig.

      • FAEN

        And Land be honest about his actions? That my friend will never happen.

  • Sashineb

    Oh, these poor religious fuckits. They’re supposed to be looking forward to going home to be with Jeebiz in these “end times”.

  • Ninja0980

    Never forget this group was founded by folks who wanted to make slave owning compatible with the teachings of Jeebus.

    • amysue4772

      Ummm, you know slave owning is totally acceptable according to the bible right

      • lymis

        And not just the Old Testament. Paul was big on slaveowners’ rights.

      • JCF

        …which is why Jesus said the Holy Spirit (the progressively informed conscience, if you will) would lead his followers “into all truth”. Revelation (wisdom, if you will) was never supposed to end w/ the Scriptures (whether Old Testament or New). We’re supposed to keep learning, to get our ethics BETTER!

    • kaydenpat

      Yep. They’re still awful people. Some things never change.

    • greenmanTN

      I was a rare book dealer for many years. I bought books from an estate once and the owner was a major Civil War buff and had many books from that era or just afterward. One of them was (no kidding) a collection of sermons by Southern ministers about why Slavery was good and supported by the Bible.

      I didn’t read it, it was too slimy to even think about.m I did however sell it for a profit!

      • Goodboy

        Slavery is supported in the Bible though.

        • greenmanTN

          Oh it absolutely is. Slaves should obey their masters. It even lays out how much whipping for a slave is too much.

          That’s why the Bible is such a shit-sucking stain on humanity.

  • Dear Richard Land: Of all the things you’re going to have to apologize to Christ for, not voting for Donald Trump is way, way down on the list.

    • kaydenpat

      True. All that bigotry would need to be atoned for first.

  • Mister Don

    Baptist Land = Mud

  • Friday

    Interesting rationalization of voting for a guaranteed fraud, ripoff, hatemongering bigot and general disaster on all fronts, just cause of baseless, vague claims (that never hold up to scrutiny) against Hills.

  • JT

    Keep looking for Jeebus up your ass where your head is, preacherman. And go fuck yourself.

  • chris james

    whacko…go home and beat your kids in the name of Jesus.

  • Stubenville

    Don’t forget to apologise for gluttony too, lardass.

  • DaveMiller135

    That falls a bit short of being a really ringing endorsement.

    • kaydenpat

      Just a tad.

  • Tor

    What are Land’s and Christian Post’s tax status?

  • NZArtist

    Isn’t there something about losing tax exemption status for endorsing a candidate?

  • ericxdc

    the guy is just a mess selling gullible and willing followers a mess.

  • Lazycrockett

    It’s cause she’s a woman.

    • Sam_Handwich

      the whole basis of Christianity is Eve ruining humankind by passing along an apple to Adam

  • 2patricius2

    Richard Land and Donald Trump are made for each other. Both are charlatans, money grubbers, bigots and frauds.

  • JT
    • Bad Tom

      At least we have video proof that this lizard can walk on water. So, it’s already better than the opposition.
      He kinda looks like me running. Except I’m running on land. And I’m not as svelte.

      • GayOldLady

        At least you can still run. I do something that sort of look likes a slow motion video of speed walking.

    • That is…mesmerizing.

  • kaydenpat

    In what world could Trump be described as the lesser of two evils? And by the way, for all her faults, Secretary Clinton is not evil.

  • Lane

    Funny, I feel almost the exact opposite. Except I also think HRC will be actually pretty damn good. Not perfect, but a fuck-ton of chemo better than T—p.

  • Jmdintpa

    Says the old fat ass white man who is from a religion started just so they could morally justify slavery. STFU old ass man and go die already. The world will be better when people like you know longer exist.

  • ultragreen

    Voting for cancer is where I draw the line.

    • Friday

      Of course this guy supported a huckster candidate who has sold fraudulent alleged ‘cancer cures’ so maybe the former head of the homophobic SBC isn’t where you want to go for your metaphors.

  • Bruno
    • DaddyRay

      That just says they trust Clinton so much that they had no problem donating to the Clinton Foundation

      • Bruno

        So many on the left are breathlessly worrying about Clinton Foundation to such a point it’s getting obnoxious.

        • Ever notice how the breathless concern-trolling never once mentions the work the Foundation does around the world?

          The Foundation focuses on improving global health and wellness, increasing opportunity for women and girls, reducing childhood obesity and preventable diseases, creating economic opportunity and growth, and helping communities address the effects of climate change.

          Their list of humanitarian projects is staggering.

          • DaddyRay

            Ever notice how they are concerned about the work of a foundation and foreign governments but don’t give a crap about Trumps business ties with a host of foreign governments?

          • Bruno

            Considering her rival is tRump, this “pay to play” really pales in comparison to his deeds. Such stupidity.

          • Especially since nobody can establish any kind of quid pro quo that Clinton could have delivered as SecState.

          • Bruno

            More spaghetti thrown at the wall, though some of it’s sticking to scared liberals. In the meantime, her poll numbers seem to be steady or even ticking up despite it all.

          • We have Trump to thank for that, not only because he can be counted upon to say or do something outrageous every couple of days, thereby interrupting the news cycle, he can’t stand it when the media isn’t focused entirely on him.

            He’s his own worst enemy.

    • SoCalGal20

      Regurgitating AP’s hit piece. Thanks, Slate.

  • lymis

    Well, of COURSE Christians would be unable to vote for Clinton!

    She’s still married to her first spouse, she has created an international charity that gives to the poor, she’s dedicated to people’s equality, and she’s a lifelong regular churchgoer.

    Unlike the serially married womanizing, self-centered crook who is proud of screwing over the people he hires, and is all about chasing away the people who need justice.

  • So the thrice-married serial adulterer and compulsive liar who is well known for stealing from those who provide him and his businesses with goods and services, and who also scammed and ripped off thousands of Americans just hoping for a new career in real estate, and who partied for years with a known pedophile with an eye for underaged teen girls — this rough beast shambling towards Washington to be born, this Donald J Trump, is the lesser evil?

    That’s just fucking rich. How exactly is Clinton evil? As First Lady, she was Bill Clinton’s wife. As the Senator for New York, she represented her state’s interests. And as Secretary of State for four years, she represented President Obama’s policies and interests. Meanwhile, the Foundation which bears her and her husband’s name has been performing humanitarian missions around the world.

    Trump, on the other hand, had to be badgered into ponying up the veterans fund donations he claimed he’d already made but hadn’t. And his recent rescue-disrupting PR stunt in New Orleans last week appears to have been more than a stunt, with more lies about credit for donations he likely has no intention of giving unless forced to.

    Trump, the man who wants to deport millions and oppress people on the basis of race, national origin, and religion — that’s what’s less evil?

    Richard Land needs to take a good, long look in the mirror. That’s not Jesus he’s serving.

    • Johnny Wyeknot

      If he looked in the mirror he would see no reflection. Just like Pence’s daughter.

    • JD

      And Vincent Foster is unavailable for comment.

  • Ernest Endevor

    This is so appallingly cynical I can only hope that as Trump brings down the Republican party he’ll also demolish our fundie friends.

  • Everette

    Someone explain to me why these alleged “religious” organizations can enter into politics and retain tax-exempt status?

    • Ridiculously lax IRS enforcement policies which began to take hold during the Reagan ‘faith-based initiatives’ era.

      • DaddyRay

        And made worse with the GOP congress cutting IRS funding so they can’t hire more investigators

        • On top of which, the GOP continues to shriek like banshees any time the IRS even hints it might look more closely at the technically illegal political activities of tax-exempt churches and religious organizations.

          • Paul

            Let’s hope the GOP lose enough that their wailing becomes little more than a whimper.

    • ultragreen

      If you insist. If you read his statement carefully, he’s is stating his personal opinion about how he will vote and why. He has not directly advocated that members of his church should vote for Donald Trump.

      • Traxley Launderette

        Oh, please.

        In any conservative or evangelical church the pastor is God’s messenger, called and ordained to preach His word. He is the one who has studied God’s Word deeply for years upon years and prayed for divine guidance. He is the shepherd who tends the Lord’s sheep.

        It took me years of unlearning the church hierarchy and its claims of moral superiority.

        You really think his congregants are gonna read this and go, “Uh, thanks, but I’m still good with Hill, dude”?

        No. He’s mapped out their ballots.

        • Herald

          Absolutely, this is how they advocate and endorse while claiming they are not! Of course it is total hypocrisy, but that is one of the things they are very good at.

  • DaddyRay

    I think he should go meet Jesus in person

    • ultragreen

      More likely he will meet Satan.

      • kaydenpat


      • Johnny Wyeknot

        Don’t wish that on Satan!

        • TrollopeReader

          Yes, please NO !! (Eugene Delguadio (and then “Little Marco” started addressing *me* as “Dear Satan, “

          • grada3784

            Be grateful that they haven’t started calling you a Trollop yet.

          • TrollopeReader


      • grada3784

        Saddam will be so jealous.

    • I initially read that as “he should go meet Jesus in prison.”

      • grada3784

        Matthew 25 says something very similar.

  • Octavio

    OT: Sorry to interrupt everyone’s moment of christain ick, but Ann the Coultergeist is casting spells on Hardball with Chris Mathews this afternoon. Doesn’t he know the encounter may render him sterile?

    • Johnny Wyeknot

      He deserves what he gets. And penicillin won’t help.

  • Paula

    This level of crazy is absolutely unbelieveable! Can he really believe the crap he is saying?

  • shellback

    Oops. You just crossed the line. No more tax exempt status for you.

  • BearEyes

    you idiots really do want your end of the world, rapture moment, snuff porn, fetish fantasy part of your mythology.
    β€œMr. Trump will in all probability not be a good president, and he will do many things with which I profoundly disagree.”
    means you’re even dumber that I thought.
    You may want your women 3 steps behind and pregnant, but she’s actually capable of running the country – unlike your orange baffoon.

  • bambinoitaliano

    Jesus aint got no time for that. He can’t hear you from hell.

  • MikeBx2

    Absolutely nothing new here. Not that long ago Southern Baptist leaders told their members it was ok to vote for a Mormon because the scary black man was going to destroy our republic.

  • Lazycrockett

    OT I love this Boris Spox on MSNBC that is stating that Drumpf is a huge supporter of civil rights cause of the numbers of black people he has hired over the years???? Yeah hiring minorities has nothing to do with the LAW!!!! Stupid fuck.

    • Bruno

      There’s no such thing as a logical or smart tRump spox.

    • Octavio

      Yet he completely avoided addressing that Trump’s speeches to reach black people have not been held where there are major black populations or black audiences. He insists Trump’s messages will magically transmit to black neighborhoods and they’ll know. They’ll understand. It’s amazing how well he stares blankly and stays on his false talking points. Just keep repeating the lie and eventually people will believe it is true. After the election Boris needs to go to a morgue and be dissected.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      The Feds also went after him and his father for blatantly refusing to rent their properties to black people.

    • And Trump loves the disabled because he installed ramps and automatic doors at his buildings…which he was required to do by law.

  • Traxley Launderette

    He needs to apologize for buying his suits at swap meets.

  • Octoberfurst

    Dear Mr Land,
    No one gives a shit about what you think so fuck off.

    The World.

  • Sam_Handwich

    for all those wondering about the IRS rule about churches endorsing candidates…

    the UU church i work for sought clarification in 2008… based on that, my understanding is:

    a congregation’s ORDAINED CLERGY cannot endorse a candidate BY NAME and FROM THE PULPIT during a worship service that’s open to the public

    but other than that, just about anything goes. Land’s statements are from an opinion piece, not a sermon.

    • Gustav2

      Then you according to the statute, you report it to a specific rank in the IRS. I forget what it is, something like the the Assist Regional Manager…then a Republican Congress eliminated the job.

      There is no cop on the beat.

  • Jerry Kott

    The more stories I am reading today on this feed, I am believing that I should start to store Can Goods in my basement.
    There is a Nut under every shell in this Shell Game. You can’t make this stuff up!

  • bambinoitaliano

    These days capitalism for the US means con men’s games.

  • Cuberly

    White christian grifters are really starting to lose their shit. Not that that isn’t what they always do, but it’s really begun to freak them out. A woman, a Clinton, a Democrat, in the WH.

    Every time I read or hear their rants I can’t help but think, they know the strangle hold they’ve had on political discourse is in serious jeopardy this time around. Obama got the ball rolling, but if there’s 8 more years of a Dem in office, they’re f’d.

    ….and the uglier they get the more people they turn off. I still think they’re their own worst enemies.

    • greenmanTN

      They are losing their shit. They’ve pretty much abandoned all the moral precepts they claimed to have had, to vote for a grotesque thrice married public adulterer whose third wife is basically a stripper.

      Family Values, huh? Bite my ass!

      • Cuberly

        Falwell the elder sort of cast the die they’ve used to play the political game. Reagan let it happen, turning the religionists into political operatives that could GOTV for the GOP.

        Exactly to your point, the power becomes more important, and it’s f’king them up big time.

        • greenmanTN

          Ok, I know I dip into this well a lot, but this video by Trae Crowder kind of lays it out.

          If the Religious Right was as powerful as they claim to be then Ted Cruz would be the GOP candidate instead of faux billionaire and reality TV star.

          They have lost their power and control and it scares the shit out of them, so they’re clinging to him like rats on a sinking ship, abandoning all their self-proclaimed values.

          • Cuberly

            Yep, he nails it.

          • Robincho

            Neater’n Chrast own the cross…

    • Bruno

      And they never got used to the black male Democrat in the WH either.

      • Treant

        …wait a second, Obama is black? Why didn’t anybody tell me?

        • TrollopeReader

          you’ve been wearing those rose-tinted glasses, haven’t you?!!

        • Bruno

          It’s good that you’re color-blind.

      • Cuberly

        The one good thing Trumpkins has done is he’s rattled the GOP preferred dog-whistle narrative and shown the religionist white elites quite sympatico with some f’d up messy racists. Not that they weren’t f’d up messy racists to begin with.

        We’ve known this all along but now it’s been exposed in a much brighter light, in my opinion.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      They did it to themselves. They pandered to bigots and racists and pretty much lost their chance to keep the now burned and skeptical in their fold.

      • Cuberly

        The fact they went with trump, without blinking, is a youuuuge indicator of their losing battle if you ask me.

        They’re so desperate for that access to power, how low will they go.

    • Homo Erectus

      In eight years a whole bunch of them will drop off the conveyor belt of life.

      • Cuberly

        Very true.

        Over the past 2 years I’ve lost 4 relatives that would most likely have voted for Trump. All of them Fox watchers. Despite the fact that when you spoke with them directly about specific issues their opinions sort of moderated from the Fox dictated extremes. They weren’t stupid, just overwhelmed with cognitive dissonance.

  • Galvestonian

    Apologize then …

  • Bad Tom

    Mr. Land, before reading this post, I didn’t know much about you.
    After reading this post, my view is crystal clear.

  • Gustav2

    Typical Baptist preacher. Can’t find a Biblical reason so he has to make up a story that makes no sense. They do it from the pulpit every Sunday.

  • greenmanTN

    That suit is an abomination, whether it’s a mix of fibers or not.

  • RoverSerton

    Someone with Clinton’s ear: Make a commercial of what the Clinton Foundation has done. I have no clue other than it is the rights current boogieman.

    Hell, even the Koch’s can look sympathetic with their propaganda.

    • DaddyRay

      I was thinking about that the other day and think the best person for the job is Bill Clinton – he has a gift of public speaking that puts people at ease

      • Cuberly

        I think you’re right….lol…even though I don’t particularly care for ole Bill. Just my opinion.

    • As I remarked in another comment, the extent of their worldwide humanitarian work is staggering.

      Yes, they should embrace and advertise what they’ve been doing. Compare and contrast: Trump and his businesses bilked people out of their life savings and drove small businesses into bankruptcy. The Clintons and their charitable foundation have been promoting health care access, education, civil rights (esp. for girls and women), disaster relief, economic programs for minorities, and environmental causes around the globe.

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    I just wish these preachers would make a gold cow statue and mount it in front of their congregation. I doubt their followers would notice the difference.

    • JT

      That’s because they don’t know the difference between erecting a statue and shoving an erection in a statue.

    • Cuberly

      I browsed through the collected Tony Perkins links over on Right Wing Watch earlier today. It’s always interesting to peruse the long long long list of his cynical manipulation and lies he peddles.

      I’d say they’re beginning to become their own political liability.

    • coram nobis

      I wonder if they realize that Donald Trump is like Emperor Nero? Biblical period, but …

  • ceeenbee

    What a fucking freak.

  • Outlaw Woman

    I, for one, kinda like this …

    What a weak-ass, backwards endorsement. The effect of this announcement will basically be 100s of thousands of evangelicals staying home.

    • Homo Erectus

      A girl can dream….

  • abel

    Who the fuck does he think he’s kidding. He’d vote for Trump if it were a guaranteed ticket to hell.

    • Cackalaquiano

      He’d vote for Trump even if Jesus appeared and told him, in perfect Southern-accented English, to vote for Hillary.

  • Hank

    Here’s Barry Goldwater’s thoughts on these types!

    • coram nobis

      “I think every good Christian ought to kick Falwell right in the ass.”
      — Barry Goldwater

      • William

        I’m gonna need a shovel.

        • coram nobis

          There’s Falwell, Jr., of course.

  • coram nobis

    The IRS page on tax-exempt organizations:

    To be tax-exempt under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code, an organization must be organized and operated exclusively for exempt purposes set forth in section 501(c)(3), and none of its earnings may inure to any private shareholder or individual. In addition, it may not be an action organization, i.e., it may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates
    — IRS page (emphasis added)

    Isn’t that interesting?

    • BearEyes

      too many loophole words like “substantial” with no real definition.

      • coram nobis

        That is true. It depends on which administration is interpreting 501(c)(e) and enforcing it. A crackdown is always possible, and the Bob Jones University ruling is valid case law.

  • coram nobis

    From Bob Jones University v. U.S.

    Both the courts and the Internal Revenue Service have long recognized that the statutory requirement of being “organized and operated exclusively for religious, charitable, . . . or educational purposes” was intended to express the basic common law concept [of “charity”]. . . . All charitable trusts, educational or otherwise, are subject to the requirement that the purpose of the trust may not be illegal or contrary to public policy.
    * * *
    Guided, of course, by the Code, the IRS has the responsibility, in the first instance, to determine whether a particular [p598] entity is “charitable” for purposes of Β§ 170 and Β§ 501(c)(3). [n22] This in turn may necessitate later determinations of whether given activities so violate public policy that the entities involved cannot be deemed to provide a public benefit worthy of “charitable” status. We emphasize, however, that these sensitive determinations should be made only where there is no doubt that the organization’s activities violate fundamental public policy.

  • Sam_Handwich

    i can’t load JMG homepage, wondering if anyone else has same problem.

    • BearEyes

      just tried it and got a ‘took too long’ message

    • DaddyRay

      I have been having that problem off and on

    • TrollopeReader

      took about 25 seconds on my side of the moat ….

    • JT

      Officially down for several minutes. Now back up.

    • SoCalGal20

      Maybe another DDoS attack?

    • fuzzybits

      Same here, but finally got in.

  • TrollopeReader

    o/t but Cong. Beto O’Rourke is cute, in a Kennedy-esque way … (Bobby)

  • j.martindale

    You people are nuts!

    • Sam_Handwich


      • coram nobis

        “Father, I didn’t change the baby yet! And that’s not the font, it’s the social-hall punchbowl! Have you been in the communion wine again?”

        • Sam_Handwich

          hold on, i’ll get the rainbow sherbet …

  • JT

    The website is having problems.

  • JT

    Officially the site is listed as down.

    • DaddyRay

      Thanks Obama

      • JT

        Putin’s to blame.

  • fuzzybits

    I had a nephew who died last year of pancreatic cancer. I’m appalled that you would use something so deadly and trivialize it.

  • coram nobis

    In which even religious commentators think that the anti-LGBTQ contingent is losing both support and maneuvering room, i.e., middle ground is disappearing.

    Surely the events of this political year offer this contingent no comfort.

    GOP primary voters had at least a half-dozen conservative religious candidates to choose from, but instead picked Donald Trump.

    Marking their continued influence, the GOP platform retained all the old anti-gay boilerplate. But openly gay speaker Peter Thiel received a warm embrace, and Trump himself spoke in defense of LGBT people.

    On the Democratic side, not only is LGBT equality now doctrine, sympathy for religious liberty exceptions is drying up quickly. If Hillary Clinton is elected president, making for 12 to 16 straight years of Democratic control of the White House, it is quite possible that by Supreme Court ruling and federal regulation any kind of discrimination against gay people will have the same legal rights and social acceptance as any kind of racial discrimination. Which is, none.

    • Cuberly

      Thanks so much for posting that article. I recommend people read the whole thing, and don’t miss out on the comments section. Interesting discussion threads.

      I like how the last sentence of the piece was interestingly laid out.

      “Sometimes society changes and it marks decadence. Other times society changes and it marks progress. Those who believe LGBT equality marks decadence are being left behind.”

      • grada3784

        Maybe they won’t make the Rapture after all. Good thing they have that set of guide books.

  • RainbowPhoenix

    I would think that voting for Trump would require an apology considering the thing about “what you do to the least of my children”.

  • bambinoitaliano
    • Max_1


  • Franciscan

    And Jesus said unto them, Lord, what have these crazy people to do with Me?

    • andrew

      Yep. Jesus that 1st century Jew who, if some of the gospel accounts are true, was a holy man with a soft spot in his heart for “sinners.” He sure doesn’t deserve the hate filled legacy of these fundamentalist “Christians.”

  • geoffalnutt

    You, sir, are an idiot. Neither your God nor Jesus can help with that.

  • Richard

    He really said that!

  • Michael Rush

    Where is the line where the church is not allowed
    to interfere in the election process ?

    In order to remain tax-exempt under 501(c)(3), churches must abide by strict guidelines that prohibit election activity. The Code states in relevant part that 501(c)(3) organizations cannot β€œparticipate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distributing of statements), any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office.” I.R.C. Sec. 501(c)(3). Thus, as a 501(c)(3) organization, churches are strictly forbidden from supporting or opposing a candidate for public office. To do so jeopardizes their tax-exempt status. Churches cannot engage in any of the following activities under the federal tax law:

    Cannot endorse or oppose candidates for public office
    Cannot make any communicationβ€”either from the pulpit, in a newsletter, or church bulletinβ€”which expressly advocates for the election or defeat of a candidate for public office
    Cannot make expenditures on behalf of a candidate for public office or allow any of their resources to be used indirectly for political purposes (e.g., use their phones for a phone bank)
    Cannot ask a candidate for public office to sign a pledge or other promise to support a particular issue
    Cannot distribute partisan campaign literature
    Cannot display political campaign signs on church property

    • Cackalaquiano

      He could paint “Vote for Trump” on the roof of every Southern Baptist church in the country and the IRS would not do a damn thing.
      End the tax-free status now!

    • Land’s dodge would be that he’s speaking as a “private citizen.”

  • Ross

    Jesus spoke to me today!

    To me!


    Praise the Lord!!!!!!!!

    And Jesus said: “If you vote Trump, I am going to fuckin’ smack you! With a bolt of lightning!”


    • Cuberly

      Interestingly…..Jim Caviezel, the dude that played Jesus in the Passion of the Christ, was actually hit by lightning during filming.

      SCOTT ROSS: It’s been rumored, I don’t know if this is true or not, but as you were filming you were hit with lightning? That’s true?

      JIM CAVIEZEL: I was lit up like a Christmas tree! I was doing the Sermon on the Mount. I knew it was going to hit me about four seconds before it happened. I thought, “I’m going to get hit.” And when it happened, I saw the extras grab the ground.

      I know, not really relevant to your post, just found it sorta funny….

  • Statistics Palin

    He looks like a “dick” to me!

    • Homo Erectus

      I like an uncut dick – oh, nevermind.

  • MDixon34

    I guess the libertarians and greens have no appeal to him.

  • GanymedeRenard

    Aren’t votes supposedly secret? Are churches not supposed to interfere with politics? No? Then STFU, Mr. Pastor, sir.


    Big surprise, the Southern Baptist leadership and the head of the KKK are endorsing the same candidate. NOT.

  • WarrenHart

    Donald Trump might actually make America great again by destroying the Republican Party and organized Right Wing phony family values KKKhristianity. All at the same time.

  • dcurlee

    Oh you’re a cancer for sure, just like Trump


    Memo to members of the Southern Baptist Convention : Please let us talk for a moment. Think back to when you were growing up, Sunday school and what the pastor preached in his sermons. Now, listen to what the very well paid leaders of your group are telling you. They are voting for an unrepentant adulterer for President and claiming this is what Jesus wants. Are they selling out the real message of Jesus for 30 pieces of silver ? Would you want your children to believe this ? Look into your soul, doesn’t this just feel wrong ?

    • Chuck in NYC

      Well, I have to quibble here. While I think your sentiment is well-intentioned, a lot of what the Southern Baptist preachers of 50 years ago would say from the pulpit was right in line with George Wallace. I don’t think the ones from 30 to 40 years ago were much better.

  • LibreV

    After getting a gander at Richard Land, Jesus should apologize to him.

  • HZ81

    Fuck you and your cult.

  • Max_1

    The Radical Right knows no savior BUT Trump… Screw their Jesus.

  • Rex

    These preachers can’t make themselves look anymore foolish. They should just be honest and say they totally hate democrats and be done with it. Satan could run as a republican and they’d vote for him.

  • Lazycrockett

    PP Poll says that SC is basically a tie and that basically if Clinton decides to she could easily win it.

  • Carl

    Or maybe your life is a lie and a wasted opportunity. Good luck.

  • Homo Erectus

    Doesn’t that just destroy his tax exemption status??

    • NO MORE GOP!

      In a sane world where the IRS actually followed up.

  • NoShame

    Oh Richard, you’re just bitter because Jesus didn’t you to his fundraiser for Hillary.

  • Blake J Butler

    Really I thought apologizing to Jesus meant getting on your knees and accept the part of a man into your mouth.

    Donald Trump as president ? When pigs fly bitch.

    • McSwagg

      <<>> Bad childhood memories with that image …

  • teedofftaxpayer

    He can get down on his knees and kiss my ass but Jesus isn’t going to lose sleep if Donald Trump is elected. He’ll probably celebrate like the rest of us.

  • Blake J Butler

    O/T: trump and Clinton are practically tied in Missouri. Trump 44, Clinton 43, Johnson 8, another candidate 1%. Undecided 5%.

  • TrollopeReader

    Not really OT : Cher on O’Donnell shortly …. and Kellyanne Conway on Rachel tomorrow (Wed) night ….

    • Lazycrockett

      Oh poor Kellyanne doesn’t know yet she has a meeting in the board room tomorrow morning.

    • Lazycrockett

      Couldn’t even bother to get out of bed. oh Cher.

      • TrollopeReader

        there’s a wee tad more to Ptown than that one trailer they’re showing with the Secret Service men !!

        • Lazycrockett

          I’m one of Cher’s people.

  • bobbyjoe

    Donald Trump: Well, At Least He’s Not Stage Four Cancer.

    [This advertisement paid for the Committee to Elect Donald Trump]

  • david fairfield

    Remove tax exemption immediately!

  • Lazycrockett

    Coming soon to your grocery aisle Trump Waffle’s.

  • Lazycrockett

    oooooh it looks like Former Senate Scott Brown is getting slapped in the same lawsuit that got filed against O’Reilly and Ailes today also.

    • William

      Awwww, I wanted to chase Scott around the desk a few times.

  • Max_1

    Well, that Christian just rendered his Jesus unto Caesar…

  • Max_1

    “I believe I have a moral obligation to vote for the lesser evil”

    No matter the greatness or otherwise…
    … Evil is evil.

  • FancyThat

    Spoiler Alert : Sensitive Material -new Disqus toy – click to open

    Donald Trump is actually a FRAUD.

    – new Disqus Toy –

  • DesertSun59

    This man is absolute proof that evangelicals are nothing but grifters.

  • Max_1
  • IamM

    I don’t understand how anyone can consider Trump/the GOP the less evil or less dangerous option. Total crazy talk.

  • marshlc

    What on earth do they think she’s going to do? I mean, it’s pretty clear that while she will be competent, she’ll be pretty much a “business as usual” president. She’s not very radical.

    It’s all very well to say “they’re against her because she’s a woman” but what argument are they actually using? There is zero indication that Clinton is proposing to do anything truely remarkable.


      She said “Gay rights are human rights.”

    • William

      Hillary should be “submitting” to her husband.

    • Ross

      Hillary is not very radical?

      Ahh…when Hillary was First Lady she worked her ass off to create universal health care.

      Pretty fuckin’ radical.

      If she wins in November she will be the first female president of the US.

      Pretty fuckin’ radical.

    • Arguments against voting for Hillary Clinton, from the god-botherers lexicon:

      1. She’s Hillary Clinton

      2. Whatever else occurs to them at the moment.

      Remember, this is a movement defined by hate, and one that requires an enemy to justify its existence. Jesus is merely window-dressing.

  • James

    Did he switch the names?

  • Sporkfighter

    The Southern Baptist Convention issued an apology for its earlier stance on slavery. The issue had split the Baptist church between north and south in 1845. But a century and a half later, in 1995, Southern Baptist officials formally renounced the church’s support of slavery and segregation.

    These guys are lecturing us on “moral obligations”?

    • Paul

      Wish I could find that article that listed all the bible verses they used to be against interracial marriage, as they were the exact same ones they used against marriage equality.

      Think it was Slate or similar.

  • JustSayin’

    Cause i am old, white, and have a penis I must vote for donald trump

    • DaddyRay

      Many people say Trump doesn’t have a penis

      • bzrd

        they say it’s a peanut

      • B Snow

        OMG, I just read that on the internet, so it must be true! Is that why he donates so much money to NAMBLA?

    • Homo Erectus

      My penis and I don’t always agree on politics.

  • DaddyRay

    6.2 Earthquake hits Rome

    I blame Tony Perkins

  • moebym

    And how exactly is this supposed to help Trump? It’s not like his was a ringing endorsement, and it may well convince many conservative Christians to just stay home in disgust on 11/8 rather than feel obligated to vote for a slightly lesser evil.

  • Tammy Rainey

    what happens when you overdose on the Kool-aid

  • anne marie in philly

    this asswipe is just as empty-headed as the rump!

  • Pat

    I wish Jesus would come down in a big fluffy cloud and drop kick this Pastor Jerk’s flabby ass into the next century.

  • Silly human.

  • TuuxKabin

    Hardly an endorsement.

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    If/when he loses (and assuming he loses in a major wipeout), so many Republicans are going to claim that they never voted or supported Trump even if they were super loud and pasted their love for him all over their social media.

  • William

    So, your announcement on giving up tax exempt status is coming tomorrow?

  • bkmn

    Multi-thousand dollar suit – check.
    Alcohol induced under eye bags – check.
    Do as I say, not as I do – check.
    Complete lack of actual morals – check.

    • andrew

      Probably multi million dollar mansion as well.

  • Marjoriehhopp2

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  • TimJ

    And these guys claim the so-called “Johnson Amendment” prevents them from talking about politics…. What a bunch a hysterical children.

  • Back in March this fellow Land called publicly called Trump “a scam” (in Charisma News but now says Jesus requires His followers to vote for him?

  • Mark

    Bigot. You need to apologize to Jesus for wasting air.

  • JT

    OT. Cute and happy, as opposed to ugly and hateful.

  • i gotta admit how much i’m lovin all this. it’s just sofa king amusing to watch these nutbags have to suck it up, and get behind a man that they know is not One of Them. the funny truth is that drumpf has voted for, hobnobbed with, is friendly to, and does business with… lots of left leaning dems. there’s no way to hide that, if you have the bravery to look at the facts.

    imho drumpf is mostly apolitical. i don’t think he gives a shit about anything except himself. and being on TV. good for him, i guess. but i read the reports about how he started out taking this whole mess as a joke, unaware that he’d tap into a desire the teabaggers have for a ‘rebel’ candidate. oops, now that’s you, Hair boy. sucks to be you! you’ve got to finish this out or look like a fool, and we all know he hates that.

    i doubt he’ll be elected. but i’m positive he will enjoy every minute that remains b/w now and the election. why shouldn’t he? he’s a narcissist and he’s on every channel, blog, radio program, 24/7. the Bonus here is watching all the True Believer types have to publicly come out to support him, squirming and lying and making excuses for him. we’ll have a LOT of fun with their endorsements of him later. hee.

    • KarenAtFOH

      I just don’t get the depth of their fear and hatred of Hillary. She is like stage four cancer? She is a terminal president who will destroy the Republic? Of course, I feel that way about Trump, but that’s different, isn’t it? I mean, he actually is a narcissist.

      • vagina is scary, to idiots like this. it’s really that simple. it’s why so many of them rape children, who do not have the adult faculty to laugh, via experience and knowledge, at their small, limp penises.

        fundie men are very, very afraid of women with knowledge and power. and rightly so. we know what motivates them, and why they practice religions which subordinate woman to man. eve’s “sin” wasn’t taking the apple, it was realizing that adam was… somewhat lacking.

  • KarenAtFOH

    Oh go ahead and vote for Hillary. You already have so much to apologize to Jesus for, one more little thing is not going to matter much.

  • Billy Bob

    Get the fuck away from that microphone and lectern my tax dollars paid for, you fucking whore!

  • JCF


  • grada3784

    However, it must be said, before it is too late, that whatever the
    problems may be, Donald Trump is not the answer. I fear that the
    millions of Americans who are putting their trust in Mr. Trump will be
    bitterly disillusioned if he were to obtain the nation’s highest office.

    Richard Land

  • JT

    This critter was once the Southern Baptist Convention’s ethics chief. But then there was that racism and plagiarism thing. Just the sort of person who should be giving voting advice.

  • D. J.

    Start apologising to people whose lives you have attempted to make miserable first, dickhead.

  • Dear Mr. Land,

    You already owe Jesus an apology for being such an ignorant troll.

    -Everyone Else

  • Gerry Fisher

    Ya know, let’s assume that Hillary’s presidency would be close to equivalent to Bill’s. (I actually think she has an opportunity to be better, but….) Bill’s presidency didn’t “destroy this venerable republic.” He’s just making this shit up as he goes along…just like tRump.

  • Robert Conner

    Southern Baptist = lard ass. And small hands. Very small hands.

  • Ken

    The list of things Richard Land would have to apologize to Jesus for is a lot longer than the book he pretends to follow.

  • wds

    Lord, what fools these mortals be — No Sir, as a gay Christian YOU are nothing more than one of those christians (lowercase deliberate) that loudly proclaims to know Jesus, but ignores or avoids anything Christ said or did. SMH You’re one of the reasons I seldom talk about my beliefs… You know, IF you keep making those kinds of statements, you really ARE going to have to apologize to Jesus … LOL

  • wanagiakicita

    Well, the God that I know isn’t racist, bigoted, hate filled, doesn’t love liars and perverts, believes in morality and caring for others, so I guess we do NOT worship the same God. Thankfully I wont be apologizing for voting for HIllary!

  • wylekat

    That has to be the most idiotic thing I have read in a while (trump’s mouth breathing not included).

  • centgeorgiaboy

    This makes the second time that some right wing “Christian” has said to me that God would expect for me to vote for the repuke candidate- another did so in 2012- You make me sick Mr Land- as usual you are another of the right wing loonies that only seemingly care about 2 sins- abortion and homosexuality- all the other sins that the “good white christian” folks commit are deemed not so bad after all when compared to those 2 biggie sins eh??? Maybe we are reading two different Bibles, but it seems to me that sin is sin and there is no graduated sins